#🗣marathon-general-chat
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Just waiting for the day I like pictures of myself.
I always hated my size in photos so I stated wearing baggy clothing
being fr if ever think bad about myself i flex in the mirror because i got alright arms and i get happy again
in a light hearted circumstance I now drip myself out with a big ole silver coat and cowboy hat 🗿
I just think of my facial structure and realize I have good facial structures
lookin like the mysterious stranger
if i look at my face ill get sad because of my horrid facial hair genetics
Instead of shooting the enemy marked in VATS I just shoulder check them, or belly flop them
snorlax maxxing i fw that
I wanna be a snorlax
aint no time like the present winters coming its time to fatten up
Like what the legend Queen says “If I get thinner, I’ll be too popular”
I'm already fat
never gonna happen i always hate photos
I just need one of those snorlax hoodies they look comfortable ASF!!
Again, it’s kind of different. It’s like a complete disconnect of who I am as a person and what I see looking back.
Don’t do this to me…
i like how i look sometimes but i still despise photos
i like photos because i only take them in groups and i get to look back fondly on memories
scrapbooking !!
type shit
If I looked like her id smile too
you should smile regardless
Ain't nothing to smile at in my life. (Please tell me u get the ref)
dude
yeah i get it dw
I know right.
🤔
hes in on the bit now its no longer a bit its reality
3 tags #intimdating
me when im scared of a shirt with 2 more tags than usual
0.5+ laughable
I’m soooo lost what the flip
brandon watch dexter
decter idk
its good so far
Ic so many clips
the first episode already has 2 clips ive seen before
arfarf
dog
😼
cat
i wore my collar last night for the first time in a while that was awesome
yeah dexter and dr house are goated clip shows
because everyone looks insane in the clips
what color?
like yes doctor house explain a very detailed autobiography of the patient while u look at me with those blue eyes
or the one wheres he fighting zombies with his sword cane
WHAHT LMAO
im p sure that was one of the clips i saw and all the commenst are like "isnt this a medical show whys he fighting zombies"
that's sof uhnny
I gotta google this
black
hey
hays for horses pal
I'm so hungry I could eat a...
awesome sauce color (top of the charts)
all my stuff is black for the most part
Is that the last name leaked
I will kill you tomorrow by poisoning all of your tomatoes
i dont eat tomatoes dummy 😛
that's not very nice
that’s not very nice
nails etc
i grow them and give them to the lady that works at my local corner store so youll kill her instead of me
your profile picture
yes
black is slick
very comforting
what ab gray
gray is a bold persons black
I used to be all black and blue stuff, now I’ve gone to a lot more colors.
i read that as “what about gay”
woahhhh black and blue!!! 💛
can you read?!?!??!?!?!? thats not what it says dude go back to kindergarten 🙄
like blue and white and pink
that's a nice color scheme
pit of the car
Does he know the joke?
Not necessarily at the same time minus a bracelet I wear…
what is it like toothpaste no
He does not know the joke
that's CYAN!!
ITS BLUE
cyan is blue
thats blue bruh not cyan
but not all blue is cyan
cyan isnt blue its cyan
I see .....
yeah but im edgyyy and a loserrrr
Turquoise is best color
it can be placed in the category of blue
^that was meant to be to butanes color thing
dst reference 😮
indigo is a superior color
imma throw a spider at you
i thought you said you hated it because of skill issue
i said no such thing
when it's the 1st of the month:
Last I saw it was 40 to 20 lol
he secretly loves playing w me 🤭
not secretly i love playing with you 🙂
what’s a bill?
I think it's foosball (America)
A buffalo
im a lil puppy awawawruf
there basically canadas team so i gotta root for them
ew
woah that’s good to know :)
love u Canada
beefalo bills 😛
I was waiting for you to mention beefalo :3
i bet none of you even KNOW what a sliding beefalo is you SWINES
canada sucks they arent even the best at their own sport
is it a beefalo that slides
you almost made me get mean!!!
aye man maple leafs suck
hop off maple leafs
aye man fuck you this years the year the pal
My team still the nba champs I’m good.
I for one like the little cute leaf!!
explain ;)
ermmm a canadian put you there dont forget it
🇨🇦
thank you Dort.
look at that awesome leaf makes them not look like Austria
shout out lou dort fr the real mvp
c_spawn (“quagmire_beefalo”)
(its peru)
Guh
oh god ….
austria flag 🇦🇹 peru flag 🇵🇪
ohhhh
we are maple peru
Get in Don’t Starve and use the command and you will see him
quagmire beefalo be like "giggity im in dont starve"
bingus you heard the pit! get on!!!!
no!!!! i said i will when i get better internet!!!
Specifically Don’t Starve Together
but new update soon ☹️
🇨🇾
neeyths homeland flag
That's Cyprus
No
what they adding
🇻🇮 it's this flag for the joke bud try again
I have business to attend to
ok
no dont you remember youre a big cyprus hill fan
hop off my state
im not a fan of football that game sucks
horns baby, not even the best team in your state guy
hockey and basketball are the goats
actually ion even like football I just like some teams colours
new underground stuff + lore stuff
vikings 🔥 or the ravens
I’ll second the first choice
canucks wipe the floor with any team you put there
Washington commanders r fire
does anyone want to do edge of fate legendary campaign with me 3 times
you fw hockey?
and that just the western conference
game is uninstalled
install it again
if you play dst with us
I need a varsity jacket someday
yah I have a friend who plays (got into bc of him)
install destiny rising :3
whats yo fav team (our friendship depends on this)
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dunno I just watch when he watches altho I would have to go for the kings ofc
goat head baby, sabres all the way, and the nooks. anything else is wrong
ok thats respectable if you said any florida team i woulda blocked oyu
hockey has teams
always gotta go local (not for soccer I didn’t have a choice)
goated thats why im a leafs fan
ew
where are you from mr high ad mighty
Isn’t the game like 300 gb
no sorry i dont want to play mobile games
get bent pal canadians own the sport if youre american youre less than i am
It's around 130+gb or so rn
Eh just play destiny rising 😀😀😀😀
ok play starve together I guess...
lmfaooo
omgee these reacts r killing me PLAY KEEP TALKING AND NOBODY EXPLODES THEN
canadians havent won a stanley since 1993
silence, i hear nothing now, what happened?
youre words are worthless youre a dirty american bum
what i do
ur mad
you guys have a majority of teams we have the majority of good players
how was 4 nations bud
leafs and
canadiens suck ass
how did 4 nations go again?
I might tbh
still dont have a stanley
It's genuinely fun
no but how did 4 nations go tho
and we wanted blood not the game
yeah bud sure
4 nations sound like a evil event that happened
have fun getting reemed by the senators bud
we beat americans asses then beat them in hockey
awesome it's like wwe
yeah
YOU DID NO SUCH THING you won the games but you did not do jack in a fight
we whooped your ass on and off the ice pal we own you
im tired boss
go to sleep then
crazyyyyyy lying is crazyyyyyy
im not lying
imma go to bed now because im done the dexter episode good night ❤️
u getting a lil ervil
hey hows your immigration doing. your prime minister is doing one hell of a job
goodnight
im not getting political pal get that shit outta here were talking hockey
bro you said inferior country like that
i wanted to chirp hockey not bring politics
at least you aint an oiler
me when i know you a furry i just can’t prove it
oestrogen
guys is marathon cooked? 🙁
idk have u considered transition
Apparently someone is leaking the closed testing is happening right now.
That's sucks.. For the team.
its not exactly a secret, being invited isnt under NDA
what is under nda is gameplay and whatnot after accepting the invite
Ohh.. didn't know that.
Well don't spread it everywhere my friend
Not planning to, I don't wanna be part of spreading leaks. But it kind of sucks these things happen. Bungie better be careful.
What you just sent is NDA protected info tho even if it is semi public?
Don't think so.. because I was ambiguous with my message. The article that I read was has more description about it, is online as well, so you can search it and see it for yourself, it comes from someone in twitter apparently that disclosed information about it.
Well I know that but referencing any changes in new content regardless of details is prohibited
the only thing thats not nda is the existence of another closed test period
The whale is to blame
Where is it leaking?
Well I kinda understand from their position when their so much attention around the game especially negatively
Hunt the NuCaloric Whale to know
Their trying to protect the identity of the game so people can enjoy the final/full experience
There's an article, floating around describing what some twitter leaker that had access to the beta, saw recently.
That does suck
Indeed, Bungie maybe need to be more clear about what's NDA during these tests.
Because I suspect more stuff will come in the upcoming weeks.
Its fairly clear and they do threaten legal action im fairly certain in the contract
No Dick Ass
I havent read it but I would assume so?
That's the natural course of action for breaking one under ethical terms
Then the guy who leaked is fu***d.. if they found out who he is.. is probably using a fake name
Somewhat but it comes through a third party and cant threaten the publisher the same way due to breach of confidence
isn't this game going to be stillborn?
It depends on if you like the genre im sure plenty of fps folk will gravitate towards this
they are clear
Lol I have over 10,000 plus hours in the genre and love the concept of this game. So it depends on your opinion as I said
what genre? shit game design?
bro has a faction role speaking ill of the project
"Raige bait detected"
bro got said faction role before the game was revea;ed tp be straight doodoo plagiarism hybrid caca
I thought we were passed the rage bait stuff.
also, DEEZ NUTZ
Looking for attention I see.
Clearly they haven't hunted the NuCaloric Whale
Y’all scared ‘em away.
its on pc though
they have an official emulator
the marathon server will be saved tomorrow
school starts tomorrow
i think
i hope
hrm? wym
oh is it actually
yea, the emu is on the website for destiny rising
o
thank you fellow furry
:D
:D
I'd do the 30-day playtest thing for free, hell I'd cover someone else's $500 cost. Plz
arf
I like pepper jack cheese on my cheese burgers ^^
borderlands incoming
arf bark woof woof awoo awawa woof bark bark
wuf
Beta was tomorrow right?
no
when is playtest coming?

Beta is yesteryear on data quadron 6
curious anyone gets test invite ?
Word im just hop scotching games until this opens back up. After BL4 im going back to Delta Force until BF6, then to Arc Raiders.
that's alot
you cant
I love alot
Is there another latest happening right now?
chat, if i may

@latent gyro do NOT man prego emote react me!
i get stuff pregnant, i dont pregnant myself!
pls stoppit 😭/
Gm chat
What did I walk in on
chat bully me 😭
Gregnant
Hey that's MY bit
I refuse to
You are flaky and kinda suck.

Yes, it's unrelated. But chat, should I give away a Battlefield 6 redemption code?
No
Problem: I already pre-ordered the game, and now I have been given a code for the game.
What is the solution?
PC.
My friends who are gonna play are already pre-ordered up, too.
I am finding humour in this situation.
Oh dang idk then 😂
RIGHT?
If you preordered, most of the times you should be able to cancel the preorder. Of course any benefits you may get from the preorder would be lost. But we don’t want to do anything along those lines here. I’m sure you understand. 🙂
Maaaaaaaaaan, send an invite code PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE !
I get it, I get it.
I'm not gonna be canceling though, not really interested in losing the benefits. Even tho they are super moot in the long run lol.
+$20 for what exactly? mhm thanks.
Deluxe editions are like the definition of retail therapy these days.
Pay for unlocks that you can get free like after 6 months lol.
🤔
I'll take it please
My best friend ever and favorite person in this server
See ya later
Marathon gonna really dely?
Hi there! For the very latest information on Marathon, please check out #marathon-news !
man, i’ve been here since the discord dropped and i haven’t been able to be a playtester. maybe it’s a sign chat 
A sign to wait patiently yet still be excited? Same here
The only way to ensure you can play the game would be thanos snapping every applicant but yourself
I mean you're only a playtester if you got the first one so if you miss the first one idk why your hopes are up for the others


If you really want, I can have it
I am yet to pre order the game(will do 1 or 2 day before release because I dont have the cash to spare rn)
Im sorry dude but we will be hearing news on release and beta i assume mid to late October
it is
small world ig lol
Anyword on where to sign up for console testing?
hi im a big gamer fan and i'd like to enter playtest #97362011 please
there are no sign ups
Keep an eye out on #marathon-news
Aight, guess im waiting lmao
And so we do!
no one is gonna get an inv to testing after what happened recently imo lol
Those who are invited are the people who were in the April Alpha
And not everyone is invited, its a pool of participants that they choose
do you know what happned recently?
hey guysmburgers
Has anyone that wasnt part of the Open Alpha test been invited to the current Closed Playtest ?
you have to have played the alpha
Im hyped for Marathon
Real
i was part of open beta test on Xbox previously but haven't gotten a invite to the current closed alpha test
The amount of people misusing open/closed and calling it a beta instead of alpha is slightly alarming
Yes it's not a massive deal but it's a pet-peeve of mine when things are mislabeled/misrepresented lol. There haven't been any open tests, it's all been closed. Open = anyone can play, closed = invite required
And they've specifically called them alpha tests to indicate that they are not a clear portrayal of the finished product due to the unfinished or limited nature of them
Anyway uhhhh hope everyone is having a good Monday
i’m not up to date, what happened?
Nothing as far as I'm aware, and I've been closely following Marathon updates
I assume they're referring to the initial closed alpha and art debacle
ahh, gotcha
these aren't even alpha tests they are specifically called closed playtests
No the public alpha was the invite pool for all future tests
Im referring to it as Open due to the NDA lift. I am aware it was invite only
some broke an nda supposedly but rumors could always be rumors. I didn't see besides people saying something was leaked
Can a Mod/Dev confirm this?
i feel this way about people calling datamined stuff leaks
Its been stated multiple times.
I'm sad.
im woke
Hopefully this month we get to see some news
Maybe so. Maybe no. #marathon-news is for you!
It's an annoying monday.
I have DMs blocked for non-friends, and just received an unexpected friend request from @worthy quiver with no past interactions — that user and I only have this server in common — did anyone else get a random DM from them? Is it a bot/spam?
joined August 31
zero messages
Of course it's a bot, report them and move on. Was it the "hey I'm a digital artist trying to find work" scam
Didn't actually get a message because like I said: "I have DMs blocked for non-friends" — so any DM attempt gets converted to a friend request
Oh I'm blind and also it's Monday lol
all good 😄
I've gotten hundreds of bot friend requests at this point, it's very annoying and unfortunately will only get worse and worse
I should probably disable them at this point and just have people let me add them
“The characters in this game are too androgynous,” DUH, it’s because they’re androids…
That’s the nonsense online right now, and my response!
MFW my robot characters aren't sexualized 
Glitch is giving off some awesome Pris Blade Runner vibes, I dig it.
Technically yes and no. The physical models of the characters are android but we are consciousnesses in digital space who gave up their physical bodies to be runners
do you guys think marathons actually gonna come out
Yes, why wouldn't it
Makes sense, and to further the point, if you want “more,” you should pay for it. From a corpo standpoint, extra material adds material cost.
no updates i just assumed they killed it
Yea, they wouldn’t have went back to the drawing board to improve the game if they wanted to scrap it
Read the last update
The last community news was on June, and we know they basically run closed playtests every month
Sony said that they were working on it. I thought the recent update that they were making some changes and weren’t they doing another call out or whatever for folks already signed up? I wish I could get in on that action.
In Fall they will do a big news post again with the new release date
Yeah that lol
badass
They also want to release before Fiscal Year 2026 starts which starts at the end of March 2026
I mean when I first saw the trailer for this game, I was like what the heck am I looking at this isn’t marathon but then after I had more time in watching lore videos and then watching other videos from the previous games, there’s a lot of colors and I love that they continue that scheme with colors in the futuristic aspect and contrast of things in the new game
Most games have zero updates from devs or playtests whatsoever, so we've been lucky to get what we have with Marathon so far
The change in the visual aspect is also caused by the technological difference between when Marathon 1, 2 and Infinity released and our current age
And it all looks great! Evolved, if you will 🤙
Yea
Obviously some elements have changed between the initial reveal, the version people played publicly and the version currently being tested
How can I join testing I love this game and really want to play it
You can’t unless you were in the Alpha back in April
😭the announcement says including alpha players
And even if you were, there isn’t a guarantee you will be able to participate because Bungie randomly selects people from those who played the Alpha in April
Ohhh okay thanks
I mean you can make the argument that this game also hasnt really gotten updates. MOST games do get playtests, just the knowledge of those playtests are never disclosed until the release of the game itself, also a lot of playtests in the current market come from the release of Early Access. I REALLY want the game to succeed. But I am not blind to their failures thus far (that are public because I have not played any of the playtests), mainly that of communication.
There is a possibility of an Open Beta being announced this month or so
Why I think is that first we are entering to Fall, secondly they are INCREDIBLY hard on suppressing recent leaks coming from the playtests
I would not expect an OPEN beta until 2026 personally. Maybe a closed non-nda beta in 2025. But thats all I would expect
It wasn’t an official announcement they didn’t want to get players hyped up because they’re very selective with who is chosen, it was just reddit an news outlets posting some email screenshots
Speaking from a sales and marketing background getting this in as many hands as possible will only help because it gets more people online also streaming and it gets more eyeballs on it. And at this point they can use all the positive press they can get for this game.
I’m expecting an open beta in mid-late winter
Should be at least 2 weeks to satisfy people who haven’t gotten a chance to play after all this time
With getting it in as many hands as possible, comes with it a lot of negative press also. Look at the beta from. Idk, what was that, June? They moved it from nda to non-nda, and the resulting feedback was pretty negative, not necesarilly saying the game looked bad, just that it was nothing new, it was kind of a mid game. Thats not necesarilly good or bad press, but it definitely wont increase sales.
Womp womp
What you’re saying makes more sense than what I said actually because getting a smaller pool for more feedback and then they can improve from there absolutely
I would expect an Open Beta in November/December if they are aiming for a release before the end of Sony's fiscal year (end of March). If that's so then release should be possibly mid March the LATEST. And if they copy Battlefield 6's Open Beta model, where they did the playtest 3 months before Release Date, that would make for a Nov/Dec Open Beta. However, you dont want to do a Beta around the Holidays, so they could delay it till Jan/Feb, which would be kinda crazy
This is certainly quite the take
I mean you are right, with the context of the game actually being like. an 8/10, ya know? Then people get pumped, excited, share it with their friends, etc. But if the game provided in the beta is mid or sub-par, then youre jusy exposing the weak parts of the game.
yes
A nice bonfire versus a forest fire
I dont think its wrong though, no? I mean the game got a lot of unnecessary negative publicity. Of course with the art thing, which I dont reallllyyy care about that much. I mean its bad sure, but I dont blame Bungie. But even excluding that, they got bad publicity for the game just being, lackluster. No solos only. No communal social hub. People didnt like the UI (which i didnt mind actually). Those kind of overwhelming reviews are not going to increase sales
Its a long cycle of testing into an inevitable public beta release, focus on the small pool of testers’ feedback then release the public beta with less focus on feedback
Yeah cause they handled it so poorly
I hope youre right, truly, I was pumped for the game, and still am!!! Im just moving forward pessimistically excited lol. So I wont setup my expectations thinking ill be playing it within the next few months. Hell, im under the assumption right now that the game will not release by March, just to set myself up for the potential bad news xD
Honesty the alpha should have stayed NDA’ed
I don’t think the actual game itself was in a terrible spot, good performance, gameplay, etc. but needed some polishing, features, and more depth in multiple aspects
I’d say the majority of the people who are going to play this game are probably going to be from destiny and other FPS games obviously so Bungie should focus on stuff that you can build on and grow with your character, but let’s not take six hours to do it in one sitting
Yes
yes
Alphas should stay under NDA. They look too rough for the common public eye and people that arent part of industry, who dont know what the process looks like
You just generate negative reception for something that clearly isnt finished
Even when the streamers tried to say the game was in alpha state, the masses considered it as “this is the build that will release”
and it could lead to the end of the whole project
And thats sort of my whole point with the whole thing. Like, you know my biggest frustration with it is? I remember, it was like the first friday after the non-nda closed alpha concluded, and they did a sort of sitdown podcast type thing. And it was overall kind of an underwhelkming conversation, but at the end they said something like. And youll be hearing from us again next Friday!!! Didnt hear anything. Then a week following, they were like, so, we need to actually delay everything indefinitely. See ya in 4 months! Like, what a flop of communication.
Either treat it likes it’s fully NDA or treat it likes it fully open, the chose the worst possible option which led to lots of frustration from the community
Thankfully it didn’t. Yet
But given the actual feedback of the game I think full NDA would’ve been the better option
As much as I hate giving it as an example, Sony did pull the plug of Concord like not even 2 weeks after release
I’m sure the delay was also because of Sony acquiring Bungie. They have other projects in the pipeline and need to work around that.
Complete anomaly that game is
I think a good thing about that though, is sony is desperate for a win, so they will do everything they can to make marathon succeed, even if it fails at launch (which i think is not gunna happen), they will give it proiper time to cook because it is Bungie afterall.
Remember Fairgame$ that game is getting very negative feedback in testing
Its extremely hard to reverse peoples opinion about something they already made their mind upon. It solidifies with time, and they start acting as a herd - blindly, unknowing to prime causes/reasons, and oblivious to reality.
Bungie has the very hard task of saving this title, and overdelivering might be their only option here.
Didn’t they pull it release it again and it still sucked?
Marathon is about their only hope with the live service push, pretty much all the other games got canceled or are seemingly doomed
That is also true. Sony is desperate for a win. Concord flopped hard, Fairgame$ is not doing good on testing.
They need Marathon to succeed
Nope
And not to even mention the countless other games they cancelled that were still in development
I actually know nothing about this Fairgame$ yall are talking about, might have to look into it
Its basically Sony’s own Extraction Shooter like game
that was morbius
You can sign up to play the game in its current development stage, although i have no idea when they would send invites
See, the extraction genre is SO over done, but nobody has perfected it. Tarkov is as close as anyones gotten, and even tarkov is a far shot from perfected. FAR lol. So if marathon can smooth out the edges tarkov has, Marathon can be a fuckin HOMERUN. Especially with the potential mtx the artstyle has to offer? Gawd damn
I still don't understand why Concord failed. Was it a streamers opinion? The art/sound design was literally next-gen. When I first saw the game and didn't know what it was I was blown away by the sound design. It sounded completely next level to me - the reloading,shooting.menu sounds everything.
Art for the game was on the highest level as well. Its a sad story
Part of it was the character design, if anything, that was probably one of the biggest issues. As silly as that sounds. The publics view of the game was overwhelmingly negative solely because of character design. Came across woke
Generic game in a saturated genre that wasn’t free
Why would I ever pay for a game like that with no campaign when there are other hero shooters for free
that is so bad. Game looked like Guardians of the Galaxy 1, which for its time was absolutely amazing
I loved the characters
most atleast
Some top of the top artists worked for the game, that I know of.
Yea, idk, I wouldnt personally say its woke, But the artstyle/design was just bad imo. I like to sorta feel connected to the character im playing. But legit none of the characters were... defined?
I mean come on even battleborn competed better with overwatch than Concord did, that should tell you something
The consumers aren’t always going to eat everything up
My own opinion was that it didnt have a purpose to exist. Everything it did was already done by Overwatch 2 and soon to be released Marvel Rivals. These games were free and Concord was paid
its failure should be studied, nowadays you cannot predict people's reception. its very volatile. Everything new is hard to accept, so we are left playing the same old titles, or remakes of them, or fucking WoW Classic for the 5th time.
the monetization plan could be the reason. I remember it costed something like 60$ which is just absurd for an online competitive title. Only COD can pull that off
Like why should you have paid for Concord when you could have either played Overwatch 2 for free or waited for Marvel Rivals to release. In my opinion Concord couldn’t be unique enough to justify its price and that’s why it fell
Which is funny because a large portion of live service games on console are free to play, it really goes against the standard
I don’t know why Sony wouldn’t try to go the Fortnite F2P route with some of these live service games
They will surely learn from concord
Concord was a massive marketing failure, most people never even heard of the game until it was released/canceled. The character design looked pretty corny to me, but I only saw that after the game was dead
Exactly. They got insanely greedy about it and thats why they lost.
awawg
And lets compare it with Marathon. Marathon is already unique by being the first console playable and arcade dedicated Extraction Shooter(no I dont count COD DMZ and BF 2042 Hazard Zone as dedicated extraction shooters). In the April alpha it already had several parts that already justified its 40$ presumed price tag

I think the game would have had a mid sized community built by now, playing the game regularly, if it was free.
And for me another problem with that is that since such a large portion of live service gamers play F2P games on console, many of them aren’t subscribed to PS Plus or Xbox Live, so releasing this paid game that also requires a subscription but has free competitors is a head scratcher
I hope they have the competent marketing team to say, hey, the game is already 40$, one full set of MTX should be like 10$ or 15$ not 20, 25.
Marathon is actually unique, I’d pay $40
I’m so bored of many of the current FPS games
This gets kinda murky because, we dont even know how the mtx will be given, do you buy an entire armor set like destiny? Can you mix and match helmets/body/legs like halo etc
I know Bungie are greedy asses, that's why its 40$. But now talking about Concord, this pricetag might backfire. They could put a $25 tag just as a "cheater guard" on the game and still make money off it. It could actually save the game
MARATHON/TAU CETI IV/ESCAPE WILL MAKE ME GOD

just to give clarification on those who dont know the mtx sit
Yea, thats still sorta vague though> weve seen battle passes with 100 tiers where every 20 tiers you get an armor piece. Weve also seen 20 levels where at the 20th you get an entire set, and everything priopr is like, colors or emblems or gun skins, etc. So id say we still dont know for certain that we get individual armor pieces as mtx to mix and match
Battle pass is definitely not an idea I love for a paid game, but battle passes are basically unavoidable these days 😭
Hoping there’s a lot of unpaid cosmetics throughout the game
I feel like battlepasses should unlock tiny QoL features/resources/currency apart from just cosmetics.
its just a bigger dopamine spike
A paid pass is pretty egregious to have in a paid game. Hopefully it will be completely free OR you can earn premium currency in game to easily pay for passes with regular play
Oof, idk about that, because nwo youre crossing a line of p2w
Honestly. Compared to the pure gambling of loot boxes and playerbase dividing Map Pack DLC, OP Weapon DLC’s I kinda prefer battlepasses
Because atleast you get the core content for free, at the cost of FOMO for the cosmetics you want
its fine if what @wooden fjord said is true - be able to pay for the battlepass with ingame currency you earned through playtime
But still, who is setting those limits? How much gametime am i spending to earnt eh battlepass vs how much money can I spend to "earn" that gametime.
how about we do a map pack season pass model again for 20$ per mappack !!!!
(And technically Marvel Rivals assuming you spent money to buy the Battle passes)
I think we should grow out of the stagnant COD battlepass model and think of better ways to monetize, better for both the developer and player
Or The Outlast Trials (you can basically get all the content except the deluxe edition for free)
Arrowhead’s system is amazing and I hope every dev adopts it at some point
I haven’t played Outlast Trials so I don’t know about it
whats the TLDR ?
You can earn super credits by doing tasks (and finding them in containers I think) which are used to buy battle passes and I don't think they expire either
Well it’s simple, the catalogs are basically battle passes, but you don’t have to pay for them, and another nice thing is that, they don’t dissapear, so there is basically not any FOMO or paid micro transactions
Why would you answer if you don't know
Battlepasses dont run out of time, you can farm the premium currency ingame doing the missions and you can buy them anytime even if a new one is introduced
its just containers
Kills Neeyth!!!!
the helldivers system is not perfect, it has a lot of flaws but its a lot better than most
#oops 🐬
then you kill FOMO which is a powerful concept, but I agree this system is better for the player. FOMO is toxic
Yes that’s true, but its also a much more better system compared to the base Battlepass system of many games
i mean helldivers does have fomo in the form of it being an evolving game with time limited community stuff
It's pretty perfect to me imo, if you play the game regularly you can easily unlock all content. It's a way to continue getting funds to the developers to continue making a game that people love. You can even passively progress your unlocked passes without even playing the game
the fomo just isnt in the battle passes
Oh yea, but we are talking about battlepasses exclusively
There's been like... A single cape? Maybe two? I would hardly call that FOMO
capes r. Aura tho
what if battlepasses werent linear, instead you could choose to unlock any part/cosmetic on a set "timeline", jump between levels etc. So you can unlock the cosmetics you care about first, also it can be tiered
Marathon can do a non expiring Battlepass system. It would also fit to the game’s setting
theres been a few armor sets and like 4-5 capes, by fomo i mean large community oriented stuff like malevolon creek or the fight for super earth that newer players missed out on
Rainbow Six Siege technically does this but its not perfect
that is still fomo even if its not destructive to the player experience as much as like destiny 2 removing 5 raids
I think there should be a bigger incentive for the player to play the game
Play2Earn if you will
cosmetics dont cut it anymore imo
Yes this would be ideal
Brrrr
I mean, ideal would be free passes that unlock every season and you can pick from past ones to level whatever you want
I need more coffee
How about we just remove battle passes and uh replace it with a energy system that u gotta log in daily or else ur game copy doesn't work
Play for a bigger purpose. Maybe community goals to unlock levels, maps, weapons, characters, currency/materials/resources drops for everyone.
Well, have you heard about Gacha games?
That's an awful system, are you dumb? They should make it so you can only join 10 matches per day unless you pay $0.99 to add an extra play.
You know what would be absolutely GOATED:
Play2Pay2Win 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Play in order to unlock possibility to purchase P2W stuff.
Everyone will grind the game and pay for it
Something EA would have totally done in late 2010’s
Games also need to bring back loot boxes, we didn't get to experience those for long enough
it would be the ultimate cancer
I've been playing destiny rising that's where I got that from
That’s cool but players could always just rely on the fact that others will unlock that for everyone and therefore not have the same incentive as those going for it
No lol
it's energy system just doesn't allow u to get better higher tier rewards which I'm surprised that's the only thing capped but it prevents u from burn out ig but it gives u a lot of energy daily sooo
nah but Play2Pay model would slap lowkey
I don’t mind picking up some loot boxes in game to get cosmetics but I don’t want other loot box systems
And they hated Him because He told them the truth 😔
Bring back legal gambling !! 🤑 🤑
log in CS2 and delete some currency, you're welcome
lwk these days I am kinda preferring the loot box days over the battle pass days then I remember passes are at least a 1time purchase guarantee if you save ur bucks from the pass
What does lwk mean
Lowkey
What does lowkey mean
Playing destiny rising gacha made me remember what loot boxes were holy shit wym this used to be MAINSTREAM
it forces you to play the game.
What if I want to spend hundreds of dollars for a game I only log in every 1 in 3 days ?
Gatcha is so much worse though because that's literally how you progress, 99% of loot boxes were just cosmetic
for 30min
(ok the gacha is kinda fair) but like bro 😭 ppl already dropping ,200$ on ts
$200? People were spending tens of thousands on the BETA
The problem to the solution is just no expiring passes
You have no idea how much money the Chinese drop every month to Gacha games
True
Some spend their entire paycheck to the games
I know about the fate/grand order guy who dropped 100k and people who spent multiple mortgages I'm quite aware of the 🐋
its a billion dollar industry I think
i feel like this is also true for the whole world not just limited to one people
Gacha games get money off the whales, not really the ppl who drop a couple lil 5$ for the battle pass
The estimated spending on gatcha games was $650,000,000
FOR AUGUST
Case in point YouTubers
I JUST DROPPED 300$ IN THIS NEW GACHA GAME AND GOT THIS ................
How is Marathon gonna survive guys ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Gacha games are designed to target the vulnerable.
idk not my job to figure out that
HOLY WHAT
MY GOD
I am the vulnerable and weak I'll drop money on anything rn....,.,.,.,,
Hi I'm anything 
I would drop the $500 tag to play Marathon for 30 days, while its still unfinished
neeyth u gotta start hrt
I said weak not downright malnourished
Yea, Gacha games make millions in a month
As long as it's not a mild gambling addition you've contracted through playing gacha games.
does Bungie have unanimous remote work rules? or does it differ by department?
I haven't paid any money that wasn't free 1-3$ on a gacha
Actually, can I buy off someones invite code for the $500 they are getting paid ?
i spent like 1$ on genshin and like 3$ on cod mobile gacha I think I'm doing well so far
Look at this whale.
The 500$ one is not invite code. Its them whitelisting IP’s for internal Bungie Devbuild access
Definitely can’t buy an NDA’d code
cuz I get so fucking lucky in gacha free pulls that I sometimes just have accounts just to flex on people who dedicate they life to ts ✌️😂
Come support ur local multi billion dollar industry u filthy little pay pig
Who do I DM to whitelist my PC to install the Marathon build ?
listen I have bought every single destiny 2 dlc and season pass outside of hersey and season of undying IM tired boss...💔💔
Expansions are fine. It's the glorified slot machines that are the problem.
I never spend anything that I have a chance to get that's why I don't get virtual gambling I don't think gaming is that serious
more of a dopamine to get lucky not buying than I would buying anyway
Fortunately you are among the strong. The vulnerable spend everything they can to quench their thinly veiled gambling addition.
A game named Love and Deepspace was released in January 2024. It has since made $650,000,000 in revenue. That's about $35,000,000 for each month it's been out
it doesn't help said gambling addictions have become memes and ppl just think the shit is funny which just enables the companies but I don't care what ppl do with they money if you go in debt over a gacha game that's yo fault
so you're saying I should make a gacha....
wow ur here crazily early today
ur usually chatting at like midnight for us NORMAL timezones 🙄
Allegedly the total revenue for the top 150 gatcha games is $5,800,000,000 for this year so far, which is absolutely fucking insane. These are all free games that predatorily take from addicts
I be lurking a bit in the morning
That's a bit of money
Chump change from me
A small loan, if you will
How many bunkers in Hawaii do you own?
9
aqaqa
the typo awawa
yesh
I'm full of coffee
NuCaloric coffee
Just realized I'm wearing close to the nucal color right now.... so probably.
Sad.
not sad casinos prolly.make.more
Both are exploitative. One is just less overt about it.
so why don't we take the gacha market and PUSH it somewhere else...
anybody else love gambling
no thats bad
ur first smart message
😊 ❤️
😭
no, its common property that can be used by all in this unfair market economy!
Nope. Cough up my royalties, bub.
I want some too
🐟
Do I just download my old alpha test or do I need to apply again
How do I sign up for the new play test. I signed up way back on the first one
Really no answers???
Downloading new alpha does nothing just have to wait for potential email which email period is over for now.
You will get an email if you are chosen for the next playtest.
Kk
Don't get frustrated. This isn't a search engine.
The original application has followed through to all of the current and past tests in between. You don't need to apply again, you're already in the pool of possible participants. Bungie has their own selection criteria for each of the tests, and you'll receive an email with an invite and instructions on how to redeem a game code for any tests that are and may occur. It is a closed test, and as such, everyone will not be invited all at once.
karnemir why it hurt when i poo
grr no answer?!?!?!?
hemorrhoid
no i was eating glue, solved 👍
well now we have 3 new questions how we handling ts general chat....
We should send them to the NuCaloric Whale
neeyth sybau
shut up u don't even talk here no more be quiet
i come here
Stop being mean
every other day i talk here
no u don't !!!
yes sir .....
hallo
yeah halos a good game
no way (never played it.....my home was a nintendo house pipipi😭)
Nintendo fanboy bro was playing Mario Bros 😂✌️
I'm kidding Nintendos cool
Halo reach better tho
like, loved playing all of the nintendo shit, but damn talking about my childhood with friends is like "oh yeah San andreas and halo and shit" and i'm in the corner like "........but mario kart is good....."
ok which Mario kart
i hear that a lot, saving money to buy it and play on the original hardware
why not just buy halo master chief collection on pc
wii and double dash, in my opinion the best ones
thats an option, but if i have friends coming over and want to play some halo, the small screen is gonna be a problem
oh ok nevermind type shit local play is goated
the other day we played Black ops II local, and it was amazing, just like the old days (one of us was screen cheating and we just went all out and EVERYONE started screen cheating, it was fun)
divide the screen with cardboard #easy
lmaoooo
Is is marathon dead
IT LIVES!!!

UR MOM
so confused am i able to sign up for the later playtests?
Atm no.
ugh thanks tho
Chin up. Its coming soon.
i miss when this game was something
where can i get informed when there’s a new playtest? anywhere i can be notified?
y is my discord all messed up
Discord is struggling, again
fr
UESC is hacking Discord man
WHY DID MARATHON LEAVE
yo my discord is tweaking
I don't know what happened
Misinformation
so we're back right ✌️😂
discord doing a discord thing, all is well
Does anyone want me to do a face reveal?
No not really as far as I know. The playtests are all under NDA and only the people who signed up and got selected for the initial alpha in April can be selected for it
👴
Me waiting for Marathon news:
I used to be cyacin my shi wigglin my wurm
I saw a guy making fun of this game for not having prox chat, a pinned comment in his video saying "prox chat not being added for being too toxic tells me everything I need to know" even though there's a post from months ago confirming prox chat is coming. We live in the worst era for journalism
that is indeed correct sadly</3
When was there a post that confirmed prod chat
Its in the news
I wouldnt call some random guy on yt a journalist tbf... unless he is an actual journalist... I wouldnt call a guy on the side of the road with an "end is near" sign a journalist
In the marathon news channel?
Yes 💀
No
@kindred vigil 👴
Litterally the last post
Nahhh
hi gorbli
Neeyth please tell me you took a break from this place
In upcoming social features
Gaslighting
hell nah 😂✌️
Common occurrence in Tau Ceti IV
👴 bro needs more vitamin D
I've been walking a lot thank y
EWW WHAT I THOUHT U WERE BANNED
No i retired
Prox Chat was never said as “it wont come”, they always said that they will look a way to add it without creating a toxic environment
Literally why would I be banned 🥀
So the guy doesn’t even know the actual info aswell
Fair enough. But giving the thumbnail i could tell that guy was a YelloFlash fan. I told to do more time researching stuff than shoving memes into his video trying to frame a point
They have committed to adding it. I wouldn't worry.
Oh I know
Welp can’t believe I didn’t read that part of the June update anywhere, glad prod chat will be a thing in this game
For being eviled and wicked
But I was talking about the initial talks of it
Yellow flash? Like the guy who's mean to barry?
Dude that’s Eobard Thawne
Dastardly even.
Unfortunately there's gonna be a abusers of chat and a bazillion people crying about "imposing free speech", but just crack down on bans and it usually solves itself
discord died for a bit there
I can’t wait to get betrayed by fellow runners through prox chat
That would be way more funnier
There's a right wing grifter who calls a bunch of Disney and marvel properties "w*ke flops", friends with Critcal Drinker i belive
I’ve actually never played a game where prox chat can realistically be used to cooperate
For sure
Usually co-op/survival games
dmz
Oh rust actually
Nah its me. Im a mustache twirling villain.
My kindness will be taken advantage of
Anyway his whole persona is in fact reverse flash,
Yea, same happens to me but that’s the fun of it
I mean... you domt have to be a right wing grifter to call marvel flops
Cus I mean theyre flops
Stop being kind then
Yeah that’s where I’m gonna have to find the balance
My 3 most played games are tarkov, rust, and project zomboid
Right, there are objective facts to their videos sometimes. But 90% of these peoples careers is trying to act like gay people are everything wrong with the media industry for some reason
nightmare rotation
Genuinely, I dont get alot of their thought processes
They havent been in my rotation for quite a while
Go take a shower dude
If you want to know a real nightmare I seen a yt video that made me want to play WoW
Rust is cool
Unrelated 🥀 unoriginal 💔
“I bet job applications gather around a campfire and talk about you as horror stories” would have been better IMO but I didn’t wanna use it
Nah thats also pretty weak
That was pretty decent if original
It's not
Okay
If it was id let him have it but
If you're interested in on breaking down the flaws in these types of people, I recommend watching TheBirdmans "Exposing the Grift" videos
but grifting makes my rent in 2 Twitter posts sooooo
I just dont really care most the time tbh
I just make my own opinions on things
I like to just let games be games
I respect the grind, but youre everything wrong with mass media, lol
I wasn't saying I grift bro 💔
I like to let games be fun but there's always an expiration date to the fun
What if i start grifting.
I don't have the time to make Twitter posts being mean to people that's too much
Valid way of living. Honestly think media literacy needs to be a mandatory course for high school graduation
You give off League of Legends vibes
Not for all story driven games
*I know, im just joking along
I still play pokemon black
Im afraid I'm going to Morb on you then
🐟 🐟 🐟 🐟
I hate league of legends !!!
I can count on my hands how many story driven games ive played more than once and 3 are fallout games, one is the last of us, and borderlands 2
This game is giving Anthem
Thats for the most part it tbh... all that comes to mind anyways
Honestly I think poor buisness modules is what's killing games
Bro is MONTHS late to that party
nah that's exoborne
Or just games being mid... I mean I dont hear about most games dropping anymore I just hear about shoveled out mid slop
It's the only thing the media wants to push out as news that's the thing
there's a lot of great games, u ain't gon know em, people don't talk about what's slightly interesting just whatever gets the heated arguments in
My media is pongsifu videos
idk what that is but w
Also a spark for debate. Id say genre fatigue is a big problem. Hell one of my gripes with this game is yet another hero shooter format. Id have love to built my own shell rather than selecting preset "characters" but thats just my opinion
A silly little guy who has some well edited videos
Ive never played an amazing hero shooter so I wpuldmt say I have a genre fatigue at all
Ur opinion sucks and I HATE You, I will now post this on Reddit and we will LAUGH at you, enjoy your downdoots NOOB....😈😈😈😈
Yeah I feel you, I would prefer to be able to choose my abilities from the pool of available abilities through the runners
The best contenders of hero shooter ive ever played are valorant, overwatch, and marvel rivals
r/marathon squad kill them!!
Really I think the biggest worries the devs will have is budget spent on development time, and just genuinely how bad the plagiarism law suit other pr nightmares have cost bungee as a whole
All of which i quit pretty fast after getting into them
valorant 💔
Which is basically just a perk system but I like those
Your boos mean nothing, ive seen what makes you cheer!
My point exactly
Jesus Christ it's actually true those are legit the only 3 standing hero shooters 💔💔💔(and TF2)
How can I have genre fatigue for a genre that hasn't had a game that sticks oit or is better than meh
Well siege is also a hero shooter technically
I played in ESL for that
Games been in the same state for 6 years so
game fell off post phantom sight anyway
BO4 and BO3
Ive had farts with more umph to them than bo3/4
that's crazy sentences for bo3 someone would hate that here hmmm....
Phantom..... pains?
metal gear ......,.,.,
Genuinely only touched them cus my cousin and I would play zombies
I like rivals, but idk I feel like Overwatch is in a more balanced state. In rivals, if a character is broken, they dominate. And if theyre not, well you're basically throwing. Id love to play Blade but for such a close range duelist he just doesn't have the escape tools or near the health regen to duel the enemy team with, and can easily be overwhelmed. Where as Overwatch reaper has solid approach and escape balance, making him really good at weaving in and out of combat
But they were just so eh
If a character is rewlly good in rivals and over powered they usually have a low skill ceiling. Characters that aren't outright OP usually have more tech behind them
I got my mains in that game though
guys be honest w me for a moment
I climbed solo queue ranked only with thing until I genuinely couldn't bother loading the game anymore... people would tell me hes a "throw pick" then after I stopped playing people said hes one of the best off tanks
if marvel rivals didn't have the marvel IP and was just called rivals would it still be popular
I love ultron cause its all about group management and timing the shield pops
People would compare it to paladins 100%
Can't tell you how many times the extra Armour has saved my teams bacon
holy diss 💔💔
Its a Chinese dev making a hero shooter
I stopped playing before he came out... its just overwatch again
They dont do too much new... like some characters i plaid cus theyre new
With interesting abilities... until I get a game I can play as hellboy or spawn idgaf tho
That's the fate of most hero shooters it just releases of new characters and balancing and that's i
He only sucks against fliers, but if you have a smart duelist playing Hawkeye or literally any ranged hero, that ground should be covered
Ive haymakered so many iron mans 🙏
Valid
I think what sets Rivals apart for me though is the team ups. Puts alot more decision making into team composition
I went from Reinhart and roadie only on overwatch to thing and Thor only on rivals
Until you play with a team of lobotomites
As a reaper main, I love fighting Rein. So fun to just step into his shield and finish him off
Every solo que ever.
Can't shoot me if im bombing us off a cliff
sooooo who wanna play battleborn
(Enters wraith form and avoids it entirely) or got a life Weaver saving my ass
Recently ive been playing nothing but the finals and minecraft
Seriously, kudos to lifeweavers that know what theyre doing
But my gf also recently moved in so my game time has been executed
Thats fair. You should invite her to play some games
Life shmeaver
I hate when they would pull me out of a fight that im winning
I have genuinely had times where out of ego I never swap against orisa.
Oof
The finals is the only option these days
I like the finals, but its kind of a niche play for me, so I hardly ever have it installed
I will kill 2 healers and start fighting orisa. She'll already have dumped her kit and is almost dead and life wsaver is just "erm I'll save you 🤓"
I play a lot of games when they first drop
Val, finals, rivals and tend to stop playing them about a season and a half into their lifespan
LEAGUE IS THE WAY
And then I come back way later into its life span and see how its aged... the finals is more or less the exact same
anyone know how to get into the playtest?
Actual bait
haha
Yes
One game I miss dearly thats technically not dead just in limbo is Rogue Company. My god that was one of the best Third Person shooters on the market before Hi Rez just absolutely incaved
what do i do?
You can’t
thanks pal appreciate it
There is nothing you can do, they have to select you
If you were in the first alpha and even then you have very slim chances
Can't sorry
No seriously, they'll make some of the most fun f2p games on the market, and just screw them up
ok but there is no prequisites at all
No way that game fucking SUCKED
Ill defend till I die.
ok I'm exaggerating but it wasn't that fun
Only that you were in the closed alpha in May
as in absolutely nothing to get into some sort of queue for it
w fan
solid i missed that well rip
Yeah there’s literally nothing any of us can do
Except for anyone who claims they know a guy in the company
The shoulder swapping, loved it. Character desings? Stellar. Music? Banger. Gunplay? Smooth. Map desing was good except arena, we dont talk about arena
haha i wish i would try to influence there decision making lol
I’m hoping for an open beta in the winter lasting around 2 weeks, not going off of anything just think it seems like a good idea for everyone
The whole throwing melee weapons bit was so much fun, and ive gotten so many angry messages in my dms for dominating one trick lancer mains
t-hawk I think ur the only rouge company fan in the history of this chat I don't think no one knows what ur saying
yh it would be nice to try the game considering all the stuff that has happened
Can’t help but wish there was someone we could email about getting in
They owe it to everyone who wanted to play all this time to have a big open beta
Cause they stirred up a lot of people with how they handled it
Also the dodge roll made combat so much fun. Just a really smooth game till First Watch got merged into Evil Mojo, bots flooded the game, player base fizzled out, and the game hasn't been touched by devs in almost 2 to 3 years
well its on them aint it, it is what it, for EA games you have to sign up and wait for an email, i didnt know this was just entirely random
Probably, but I'll praise it to my last breath. Except the toughness speed rework, that was a stupid idea
Yeah I mean you signed up back during the closed alpha and did a survey, then they might have sent you an email
And from then on they’ve just been selecting players who already participated in alpha
ahh so there is 0 hope for me rip
So I don’t think it’s entirely random how they select people, but with other betas it’s way easier to get in like with Arc raiders
Arc Raiders looks pretty good
i see when arc and tarkov come to steam is gonna be a no contest tho in all fairness
Any one know how to get into the test they doing?
Plus they’re now running the 30 day test, someone said it starts today, so our chance of getting an invite for that one seems kaput
My only issue with these 2 games is that if they end up not being f2p, then that means id need ps plus to play since I dont got my pc at college 💀
well i never played the inital alpha so it is what it is
Paid multiplayer, biggest scam in gaming
Yeah I’d have to resubscribe just for Marathon, but I will
I’ve only ever seen claims that ARC is going to be free tho, am I tripping
I wonder if they'll switch gears and make the game free like destiny? At least to try and open up more players
Ive heard both ways
well tarkov aint free and its a fantastic experience, the most realistic shooter i've played in a while so.....
I literally mentioned in the feedback it would be cool if Sony allowed them to not make this game require PS Plus just to attract some more players who aren’t subscribed, just complete wishful thinking but felt like mentioning it
yh fat chance lmao
I wouldn’t buy Arc tho
I would have bought Tarkov back in the day
Anyone know how you apply for the paid play test?
free to play or not if you spend money on skins why not spend on an actual game
Yeah even on f2p Destiny 2 you need PS Plus for everything online
Holy poop
Honestly if a game wants to sell skins it should be free.
100 percent
Payed games should have offline playability and unlock able content just like the good old days
On PS free games dont need PS Plus so if you csnt play for free then its probably cus of how destiny is listed
helldivers is sick af, but a lil repetitive
I didnt have ps plus when it dropped for free
Ps plus baffles me cause they give out all kinds of goodies to justify subscribing, so why throw multiplayer into the mix?
well sony need to compete somehow thats why i got a pc
Well duh, the whole point is to run drops and kill hoardes
guarantee you to never unsub thats why
I have not completed a single destiny raid... its just all crucible
Yeah I think before you could play destiny 2 multiplayer stuff without PS Plus
damn you should try the raids they're fun
Im never subscribed anymore, I got way too much crap to pay for
I literally would watch tv while playing a raid and literally could not be bothered to finish it
join a teaching run they exist, play with people willing to take their time with you and once you know it once it never changes
Because no one on destiny is not good teachers nor friendly enough to teach unless ur in some clan or sum
I could not get into Destiny
does anyone hate destiny but like gacha games
