#🗣marathon-general-chat
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allies welcome :3
A lil bit
I want to clown react but I don’t disagree 🤔
Is his heart okay?
But are you bro?
art raiders
but are you brah?
bro is dude bro
I want this game
You're excused, and I ain't your brah
hard as in arc raiders hard because some of those robots were insanely hard especially the queen and the rocketeer and the bastian and bason
prob i dnt think hes drinken one in a year
Okay I'm starting to miss the propaganda spam that was related to the factions a lil bit lmao
Nah you're my bro dude ❤️
I have a folder of all your DACS
bro mama
I'm starting to miss the faction roleplaying 💔
Give mine back!
Beginning of the alpha they were a decent challenge, at the end of the alpha they cranked them up a bit, they do hit hard
Send me this, respectfully.
reported me im not w them 👊
Type shit sis 🗣️🗣️‼️‼️
Shit
ah not as in hard where you get 3 hit in arc raiders ?
i figure that $40 is just Sony wanting some up-front cash on launch rather than f2p making nothing for dev costs and "it worked for HD2" and they seem to consider them comparable products. prices don't make sense the way people imagine they do, that $40 price point is basically the impulse purchase line for AA games rn for a lot of people.
For what 💔
ok lets all roleplay what do u wana be
concord was also $40 right?
Yes
can I be traxus employee #48291
i posted a gif asking for vbucks LMAO
Precisely
I wanna be mpreg
We have no idea how much content to expect at launch.
⚠️OPEN halo roleplay below this message ⚠️
Sonys stubbornness to consider price points is part of what will eventually kill their live service initiative
CORTANAAAAAA
I need a weapon...
I got muted because I wanted to sniff @full gazelle
my chicken is lose 😱 🤯 🤯 someone better jockey it!!!!! 😱
They mentioned we've only seen half the weapons and maps, but to claim the game doesn't have enough content is just bait.
is that halo
🥺 😩 😏 💦
I let out the ugliest laugh 💔
Those 3 maps could feel like 10..... or so i hope from what im gatherin.... or tryin to cope with.... ionknow
WART WART WART
That’s a crazy jump
How would they feel like 10?
Stop smellin everyone
Hah. Brah wah. Brah wah hah. Braaaaah. 😆🤣
i think the kind of prerelease marketing they wanted to try for marathon doesn't fit it. they should've just stayed quiet, surprise launched with the alpha arg, give the story some runway to start, and add in the aliens 2 weeks later in a live event
I’m gonna smell you
people should worry the marathon team is actually channeling the future into a videogame otherwise it's kinda lame
Plenty more weapons, contracts, lore, equipment, and mechanics. You're the reason the alpha should have had an NDA.
shut down the gym with that ENERGY :3 🍑
Maybe not 10. I mighta been reaching lowkey. In the alpha the map statuses were dormant. So what would they feel like of they were active? They could potentially feel alive or differ way more depending on those conditions
Bros... I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more Marathon
We saw barely any of the enemy types, weather effects, and mechanics.
I hope the maps have more to them frfr I actually do kinda like them
Yall can call me delusional but. I genuinely think this game is comin out in Sept. No delays
I want this game to succeed tho?
⚠️ NOTICE: THIS PERSON IS BASED. IF SOMEONE IS NOT A SEPTEMBER BELIEVER, DO NOT INTERACT WITH THEM.
That's not unrealistic. The alpha itself was pretty good, so we're waiting now on what else they're implementing.
I kinda wanna believe that it'll come out this year but it's not looking good
Lets see how fast Bungie can code
Then we shouldn't speculate so negatively.
It isn't. But it can get a lil better
didn't the marketing guy they were quoting give a statement on the reddit saying "hey, not having marketing in a region for the quarter isn't nearly as clear a sign as people are making it out to be, cool it"?
What's not looking good?
lol really
@kindred vigil I WANT THE PIZZA UVE RUINED ME 😭
Yea but that could just be pr talk
Bro, it only felt like that because we barely had time to explore
good to hear, yeah I wanna see more from marathon soon.
Thats valid tbh
new Vega videos soon ⁉️
tomorrow :3
We have no reason to believe it isn't.
Um all the controversy surrounding the game?
gasp !
The art fiasco? Folks will forget in a matter of weeks.
no they won't because I'll be a baby and talk about it forever!!
It's sad you'd even take the time to type that
That doesn't take away from all the work they've done. It sucks, but what you're seeing is just a bunch of people being loud.
nah a bunch of people have already made it their personality, we'll be hearing about that for a long time from like 3 people who think it's some unforgiveable sin
ART theft shall not be dismissed fellas, that is a crime!
Thats correct
I'm only being realistic. Once Bungie drops the next trailer showing all the content we can expect, it'll all fade away. If they don't have anything significant to show us, then the game is likely in trouble.
Most of the tourists have already moved on.
Idc about the art thing it's the fact that there isn't any features like solo que and Prox chat even tho people have been asking for them
Art gallery payday 2 heist
it's like boomer memes, there's just a kind of lead poisoning that people latch on to something temporary and they keep it permanent and look for any excuse to bring it up
Im not gonna forget about Antireals assets being in the game even as i play it
These aren't deal breakers for most people.
Then my wallet shall speak for me!
"please stop spending on games pay ur bills please please"
real gamers do whatever it takes... to game!
If they remove all the art that was copied, would you buy the game?
We're talking about a situation where a multi-billion dollar company lifting assets from an unemployed artist who barely makes a buck from the designs they make. Don't forget it and don't make people forget it.
These haven't been an issue for most people in the history of gaming, even in the BR or Extraction genre
real fans will sink with the bungie ship and drown with it 🤓
only true runners stay with the marathon
This game will forever be tainted and remembered as the art theft game. There's no two ways about it 👍
Might as well embrace it
Folks will forget by the end of June.
it's thematically consistent!
I won't, but I'm not holding Bungie up by the ankles like they're my damn child. They're taking care of it, so I can only leave it up to them to make it right.
true, just like how destiny is tainted as the "oh the game that deletes your shit?" Everytime someone brings it up, despite it not being a thing anymore
Blud this is the 5th time it's happened, I can't spend any more dimes on Bungie until there is solid proof that the framework has been properly fixed
well it still does that tbf
This is the fifth time it happened and folks are still buying their products.
yeah I know with the seasonal shit
But I'm mainly talking about dlc sunsetting n jazz
Not me honestly, I've stopped purchasing since Lightfall and stopped playing D2 with Into The Light
Will you be buying Marathon?
people dont forget things like "we're taking away your dlc"
lmao you bought lightfall?
No, but I will be watching
Or the "overdelivery" comment
They're still buying Bungie's expansions.
What will you be watching for?
Yea but it was like, at the very end of its life, they dropped a 20$ Deluxe edition sale and I was bored
I never said D2 players were smart, but they havent forgotten
it's in there with 599 USD, RIIIIIDGE RACER? and Giant Enemy Crab
so... you're a regular consumer
This is my point. People don't really care. They'll still buy the next expansion.
Ill also run my money by Antireal for some art commissions. Her art is amazing and yall should check out superstructure. That website is so cool
Keeping up with Bungie until it's visibly proven that they have changed
What does that mean to you?
Not really no, I haven't played D2 since may 18th 2024
They better change after everything
⚠️ NOTICE: QUEER PEOPLE AND QUEER ALLIES AVERAGE HIGHER ELO.
Only people who are already in too deep. D2 has a problem onboarding people because everyone in the general gaming space knows it as "the game that takes what you paid for away"
Leadership execution.
Excuse me?
Bring the guillotine
At the end of the day none of this bs matters and I'm just gonna play whatever I wanna play at the end of the day 😁😁😁😁
See ya in dire marsh
The game's not that bad, but I want to support a game that values me as a player not a customer.
no bro perimeter
I don't think so. While it's in people's minds, that Star Wars expansion has received massive praise.
Remember to bring prestige shit
I dont think ive seen anyone who isnt already a D2 player even bring up the Star Wars expansion
you entirely overestimate how much reach D2 has
marathon blows. game will die
no one gaf about d2 we on night reign!! Apparently
That free by any chance?
Or you can keep your money to yourself and stop helping big corpo multimillionaires when they steal artwork
Unfortunately, there's probably plenty of justifiable data for them to sunset stuff. When people get everything they want from the dlc, they clearly stop playing it/don't go back to it. You'll have raids to do if you haven't got the exotic, but those areas are empty as hell.
its $40
Damn
This may just be your bias. It received plenty of media attention.
Imma save that for MA
True I can buy a huge ass burger with ,40$
This is the way.
Im sure IGN wrote an article about it but nobody outside of D2 circles is talking about it, noboby cares
Though, in truth marathon is not at my "oh I gotta buy this" game, definitely NOT there's way to much good games coming out this year for me to want only marathon 😭
What are you expecting?
Besides I don't play online games anymore that much so I don't buy them asmuch cuz I don't wanna keep paying over n over for an online subscription just to play shit (yes I know PC exists don't bother me on it)
Not even being negative but arc raiders dunks on marathon
Plenty of Star Wars folks are getting into Destiny because of it.
I've been in the arc raiders playtest and its just a much better extraction shooter
what? Im not expecting anything, Im just saying the star wars expansion is not being talked about by people who arent already playing D2
Arc raiders marathon blah whatever I probably won't ever buy these games and just get both on a sale
I wish I had the chance to play ARC raiders
Even in my Marathon lore community plenty of members are planning on trying Destiny because they are Star Wars fans.
I kinda like Marathon's gameplay a bit more ngl, I like Third Person Shooters but Arc Raiders has a bit of jank to the movement + the camera switching is a bit too cheesy
one thing that concerns me about ARC raiders is it being third person
arc raiders had some good vibes, only played a couple of hours though
wow people who are already bungie fans
I only had fun in arc raiders because I played with friends yippie!!!! Friendship n fun
That just means they were already probably Bungie fans
Moving the goal posts?
hey i can still obtain the alpha?
No
That's nothing to be concerned about
maow.
🏳️⚧️
Not necessarily. The last Bungie game they played was Halo.
third person allows corner peeking and the shooting mechanics favor precision weapons like snipers over other things
Gears of War is third person and it has one of the sweatiest multiplayers
Hey you can't park your car there
This alone will never have me take it seriously.
I never thought gears of war multi can be sweaty until I saw high level gameplay, I was like WTF 😭
No.
Can confirm as someone who used to play Gears multiplayer religiously
MEEEEOW. MAAAAAOW. >:o
every clip I see of GoW is people using one shot shotguns and gliding across the floor using the cover mechanics to close the distance
CALM DOWN‼️‼️‼️ U CANT PARK UR CAR RIGHT THERE ‼️‼️‼️🗣️🗣️
Gears can be sweaty??? What?
Yeah no people are insane on gears of war trust me
It was the original modern movement shooter.
I dont think third person works very well in a PvP environment
Agreed.
I think it can
Not quite bud, that was Tribes
nope, it's just different
different in that you can watch your enemy while never being in any danger
you need to unlearn your counter strike call of duty tactics
youre assuming too much
no dolphin diving...ermmm no 130% sprint speed? No tac sprint? No slide cancelling? DUDE WHAT THE FUCK! how can I play this shit?
its not an assumption, I wasnt born yesterday, this is how it works out
it doesnt
That was still old school.
ok I might out myself here but legit games without the "tac sprint" option feels so bad cod ruined me 😔
Apex had to make it so that emoting hides enemies that arent in your LoS because people used it to corner peek
Game isn’t designed around corner peeking so that makes sense
people corner peek in Third Person, thats just how it goes
yeah cuz apex is first person
the rules are different
Tac Sprint as a mechanic works for some games but imo for a fast paced arcade shooter like COD it doesn't, especially for the Zombies mode
if a game is third person, it's designed around being third person
but you can't lie mw19 movement is so...mgmgbfnfnffjfj.....
designed around corner peeks
You can't design around players peeking corners.
arc isnt about corner peaking
I kinda liked MW2023 movement a bit more lowkey, MW19 movement was good I just wished the maps weren't so awful
Every pvp clip I saw from arc raiders had people corner peeking
why wouldnt they corner peek? its free intel
Also I might been the only person who liked mw2022 visual recoil
yeah you are that shit was buns
arc. arc. Arc. Arc arc. ARC ARC ARC. ARF! ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF. GRRRWJFHFIRJNRRNRN.
You can look around corners. That's a huge issue.
are you more interested in marathon?
probably not worth your energy. ultimately you’re arguing with 3rd person bad
Sorry I kinda like visual recoil in games 😔
Death to the Art Raiders!!
because in this game people have wall hacks and other superpowers
Woah doggy
I liked it.
Marathon alpha was not very good, so no. I didnt get a chance to play Arc Raiders.
;)
Is it playable to the public now?
This is my boomstick
Blackbird's pulse is on a cooldown, a fairly long one
The world needs more First Person/Third Person cover Shooters like Rainbow Six Vegas imo
corner peeking is free
Complaining about wallhack when Void can touch your butt
I love Rainbow Six Vegas
Be the change u wanna see
I really do love how discrediting Arc raiders comes down to nonissues like AI voice placeholders and being third-person
i sure do love being able to turn invisible with no downsides
How do i play the game, ive already applied and i didnt get in, is there another way?
No
The alphas over
The story sucks.
So i cant play it?
No
Theres gonna be so many Void solos out there
No. You wait for the beta.
Do we know when that is
I would forgive Ubisoft for every bad game they ever made if they make Vegas 3
no
I'm about to become one of those "google it" people 💔
This isn't Google.
August
Solo q's gonna be full of Voids
Probs
We had the same thought.
Soon
or splinter cell....
Neeygle it
Lowkey just anything this isn't another Assassin's Creed
I've been waiting too long for Sam to return. Ghost Recon wasn't enough.
No you will play assassin creed: 1942 and like it!!!
I love Assassin's Creed but that series has seriously ran it's course
For 5 games
Wait wtf happened with the captain America 1942 marvel game?
I'm not aware of any games after Syndicate.
That's still in development I think
Terrible gameplay
Oh it's in 2026
It didn't get canceled like the Black Panther game?
Not only did that game get cancelled they shut the studio down too
No delayed to 2026
That..... is infuriating. Fucking EA
Does anyone remember the resistance series on PlayStation
Nah they had good reasons this time if you look into it
Do hive me hope like that😭
Oh.... then ill do some digging
Yall should check out Rematch it’s in open beta rn, made by the devs of sifu
ok porn zero two
No it isn't the beta ended 5 hours ago
WHAT
And it was a closed beta not open
NOOOOOOOOO I WAS PLAYING IT EARLIER
Oof
Goat trilogy
Really? I downloaded it straight from ps app
Just like killzone 💔
The dates and times were on all of the info idk why you are surprised
You think I read that part
It's whack to kill a beta on a Saturday afternoon though
I just wanna play the game
A weekend no less
Same I got to plat 1 just in time for it to end
Well the game Isent too far off, it looks very promising
Oh well two weeks and it is full release
I cannot wait, I had some sick plays in my time playing
u are kenough
And it's on gamepass day 1 so absolute win
It's been a game many times over the years
This is just rocket league gone full circle
Only soccer games that comes to mind is fifa and fc and ig Mario strikers
Tbh I prefer this over rocket league, more grounded
Well mario strikers is one
There was omega strikers too
FIFA street could be played just like this too
And yeh I like it more than rocket league too
The best parts about it is the arena imo
It reminds me of the finals/ rocket league
a lot of white names in here. i dont trust any of you 
I just like the mechanics
This to, I love the trick shots you can do from banking off the walls and passing to your teammates from banking it
So much dynamic plays, which marathon struggles in 😂
It's the dribbling and touch mechanics I really like
It has a lot of depth
Feels really awkward and a bit clunky at first but once you get that stuff down you can be so fluid
I thot it was very clunky at first
The animations can be a bit smoother imo, it is in beta though
Hopefully they smooth out the animations more
But shooting the ball feels great in this game
My main issue was the lag
Think the weird animation stuff was a lot of lag really
Ball rubberbanding about
The previous beta was a lot less laggy
Did I just walk into a British pub wtf
gotta love the sports video game convos that infamously happen at british pubs
I'm so fucking drunk.
draaakkeee 😭😭😭
time for bed buddy 👍
Go sleep
No but if you'd like I could smash a pint glass over your head
yes please
hi all, do you think there's any chance Marathon isn't canceled plain and simple ?
yes
marathon will not be cancelled
Yes
how else will sony get that tax write-off?
Exactly
Many Bungie projects have been cancelled over the last couple years so if they intended not to finish Marathon they would've cancelled it then. It's probably on track for September.
i hope so, honestly
That 3.6 billies comin back one way or another
didnt sony withdrawal the advertising budget
its weird to me that studios just shut down multiplayer games instead of opening them up to being run on community servers. this will never make sense to me
seems like delay is imminent
too much work and they only steal players away from their newer far more lucrative titles
because they don't want people to eventually start supporting them in some way or it's the "it's my IP to sit on and do nothing with"
Yea. To save on the short term cash they woulda made back if they didnt have to pay antireal..... probably
Them companies want their piece of the pie
Bad decisions never stop being made ig
Both Sony and Bungie would have to be genuinely stupid in order for that to happen so no it ain't getting cancelled
you never know
There just isn't a budget in the books, the guy quoted later said we don't know if that was a change or they never intended to market Marathon during this quarter.
tbh that would probably be the smart move regardless of the art raiders stuff, the gameplay etc has had very poor reception.
sony didnt buy bungie for marathon as far as i know
Why does everyone want this game to fail so bad? Like lmfao
Because ur not in the game, I need you
I don't but the plagiarism thing is kinda big
No, it’s not
Bet
They didn't. They bought em for their expertise on mp games. Marathons just 1 of em
I really want the game to be good...just unfortunately it looks really bad atm
yes it definetily is lol
eh it's all related, i'm sure this situation will come up in the m&a fraud lawsuit someday
It’s not even out yet
That still goin?
How
Sony didn't buy Bungie for their talents, they bought them for their stock value.
sony isnt known for being a company unwilling to cut their losses... umm concord comes to mind
Yeah and everything we have seen so far looks bad and the beta feedback was also bad
hasnt started yet
It wasn’t the beta it was the alpha
semantics, the gameplay looks bad
Because it’s an alpha
it wasnt all bad
but it was very mixed which isnt promising
true not everything looked bad, it just looks like a dlc gamemode for destiny tbh
True. But doing that twice would scare off or more likely piss of the board
Fluffy and alpha is months behind the actual developed game
a game isnt in alpha if its gonna be released for purchase in less than 6 months, thats just the video game industries usual semantics games
How ya doing Runners?
2 months
do you think companies do alphas then just totally remake the game from scratch and go to beta?
Pretty good, and yourself?
especially gameplay
Doing well.
i swear these people have absolutely no idea how games are made and just yap
thats like the only thing that would stay constant between the demo they released and what theyll be shipping in a few months
Alpha is where small adjustments are made from community feedback. The game will stay more or less the same minus some tweaks.
thats beta...
semantics
no beta is testing stability on servers usually
To the Americans in here who happen to be close to Bungie HQ. Go take a peek inside please
nah test that shit in production on launch day
Ight I'll travel to Washington
I thank you for your service
Smells bad
yeah lets overload all the servers on launch and piss off our consumers
alpha and beta tests cover a lot of things testing wise not just 1
a beta simply has more finalised stuff locked in
bungie does that after the launch every dlc, its iconic at this point
Well that aint good. Grab a gas mask
content is usually locked at beta
yes
a lot of what is "locked" at beta is purely time constraints though
alphas are usually in a much more flexible anything can change state
you cant change much when you are that close to release
thats crazy
depends how close to release it is really
easiest way to do it without going out of your way to make a demo version
yeah its all semantics, words are meaningless when corporations use them
you cant expect a studio to do major changed to an alpha months away from release
its just diff philosophies when making your game
ive worked under both i much prefer to make a polished demo slice of the final game than the janky beta
it simply isnt an alpha, its an excuse to release an incomplete product
they literally cant, no time
alr we all agree then
I didn’t even get to play the alpha so I have no opinion on gameplay or design direction. I just know it’s an fps made by Bungie with extraction shooter core gameplay loop
though i guess they are releasing alphas under a full release name
full release used to mean complete back in my day
yeh the bit that looks good is they lifted the gunplay from destiny, which they lifted from halo
same brother
yeah but when we were kids you couldnt patch a game after release like you can now
we got complete bug free games on a 700mb compact disc imagine that
it had to be right on the disk because there wasnt another version following it
💿 <--- this is what it looked like for you youngsters
Yeah back when no one had internet faster than 10mbps and everyone bought games on discs
Good times those were
oh you didnt get games on 8 inch floppies? poor baby
I still remembering buying games that had four discs and you had to swap them out in the middle of playing
how bad does a rash have to get before you go to the doctor
we had 512mb ram and microsoft told us we would never need anymore
Games would have intermissions and shit
RAGE on Xbox 360 🤣
witcher 2
GTA lol
Its starts spreading and its discolored
I did. but I didn't want to fully alienate the younger gens in here
i think it might be fungal
I think u should treat any injury immediately
Id call an ambulance for you but we dont share a land mass. Go see a doctor
but its fun, i had a cod kid put next to me at work so i could mentor him I use an old floppy disc as a coaster on my desk and he asked me why i 3D printed a save button....
I touched a hot pot last 2 nights and I'm kinda shocked it didn't bubble up and blister
@ body cells are u angry
Then go see a doctor. Rashes shouldn't look angry
thats why i think it's fungal i think my cells are doing chill but somethings messing with them
"Ambulance material" in the US is like... Decapitation and stuff
call up your man and find out
Fair enough. I forgot yall gotta pay for ambulances n shit
idk its a lot cheaper to just fucking die
I'd only go to the ambulance in the US if my guts was out
should be that way everywhere ambulances are serious business
no it isnt, its usually about 10,000
I've driven friends with broken limbs to the hospital before lol
death costs me nothing
like why waste time for an ambulance on something that's not an immediate threat to life
not even a money thing
I pay for mine too but the amounti pay will pale in comparison for what you gotta pay...... take an uber
Only in EU you can go to the hospital if you got a lil coughie
this is an issue with ambulance services here
naw i have great insurance everything is cheap
well if you dont hold a funeral and your body just gets sent into the backrooms or some shit sure
this is why americans starts going to work at 9 years old to get that premium insurance
bro make me into sausages for all i care
maybe in YOUR time old man!! We can't get jobs here!!
it's kind of a myth that american insurance is bad, i pay $500/mo out of pocket and it's great
McDonalds is now hiring 13-14 year olds in some states
human sausages arent that valuable
Am I tripping or that's been a thing for a long ass time
holy shit thats so expensive
cheaper than the taxes for "free" would be
tell that to my mrs
thats because you studied humanities 🥀
nah my tax is less than half that and it covers more than just that
Deadass tho. Please get that rash checked out
Lmfao “it’s a myth American insurance is bad, I pay [10x what every other civilized nation pays per month for healthcare]”
Problem: I ain't study shit 💔✌️
you need to study to become a plumber or a carpenter or something with your hands
your employer should be paying for your insurance
honestly they are so indoctrinated into this stuff its actually insane
mcdonalds probably didnt hire them cause they arent very useful, cant even have them operate deep fryers without opening yourself up to liability
Yalls country mara
dad core
I'ma get a history degree!!! Yeeeup! That'll help!
great system for large companies who can get sick deals with insurance providers
taxes aint free
kids today are just lazy. they want to be famous on tick tock
eh i'll give it a few more days
wym I can't make 5mill dollars a second??? All the streamers do it!
Dude noooo😭
Nah most Americans know we pay too much for healthcare, there’s just a certain 35% of the population that hasn’t quite figured it out yet
i've had it for like 2 weeks it might be getting better
its crazy that americans actually think that system is good
taxes are pretty equal, they just dont go to the umm military and all that
brainwashed
oh can I have my brain wash it's really dirty
yeah most people don't sit down and do the math
those people are fools, will probably say youre a communist for thinking people should have access to healthcare
Is that you sayin that or the last medical professional you saw that said that?
naw i haven't shown it to a doc i just think it might have plateaued
I have a serious duper question for once no troll
US per capita annual healthcare costs are $13k. The average for first world nations is $6k
This just changed in a bunch of states when the current US president took office
wondering if i should just put some anti fungal cream on it i'll try that out
ask an ai to take a look
dude also ignoring the fact that he pays tax on top of that too
I was about to say you can say the president name but nvm that'll cause a combustion u did right 😭
i think he might be ragebaiting chat
for sure we do a lot of things like needless MRIs that "cost a lot" but on the other hand we can get an MRI same day lmao
either that or a full on moron
no you cant, your insurance provider has to approve it and make sure it is 100% medically necessary
also the myth that other countries cant get MRIs
swear they must pay these people to say this crap
Fine. I hope you get better man and that rash is gone soon. Fungal infections are ass
ty brother
Not true. “Despite spending nearly twice as much on healthcare per capita, utilization rates in the United States do not differ significantly from other wealthy OECD countries. Prices, therefore, appear to be the main driver of the cost difference between the United States and other wealthy countries. In fact, prices in the United States tend to be higher regardless of utilization rates. For example, the Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker notes that the United States has shorter hospital stays, fewer angioplasty surgeries, and more knee replacements than comparable countries, yet the prices for each are higher in the United States.” I’m not going to google more US healthcare facts for you, this ain’t the place. I’d encourage you to re-evaluate your biases and do even the most basic of research on this matter.
probably a sekiguchi plant
the right place to change peoples minds and hearts is twitter
You mean X?!?!
no, i dont believe in a companies right to change its name
yeah, we get price gouged being a wealthy country
insurance rates are still cheaper despite it all
the us ranks 38th on the world healthcare index i really dont understand how any of them can claim its a good system
just getting ripped off for poor quality service
any index that doesnt place america at #1 is probably heavily biased and wrong
yeah true, its everyone else that is wrong
probably made by communists
the rest of the world has universal heath care, but as the richest country on earth we somehow dont
causation or correlation hmmmm HMMMM
you're prisoners to corporations when it comes to health, literally blackmailing you into paying with death
its true
Facts
Tying insurance to employment is one of the (many) reasons American is so messed up. It's why every low paying job caps your hours under 25 hours a week so you're considered part time. Obviously, this ends up effecting way more than people's ability to get affordable health insurance
I really feel for you guys on that, healthcare is a basic human right but tbh the US is a 3rd world country wearing a gucci belt so its not that surprising
get better job
yikes
AOC needs to step up as the leader of the Democrats and win next election. Otherwise its over for us 👍
Tell them the same thing people who complain that servers live on tips. Dont like it, get another job
it wont change anything healthcare wise, they fund their campaigns so they can maintain their stangle hold on peoples health
if AOC wins the house and the senate after two years it would. they could push through a bill
and that would be that
yeah but are they actually gonna actively go against the people that gave them loads of money to get into that position in the first place? theres a reason this horrible system has remained for so long across so many governments
you gotta remember, most americans want universal health care. its the politicians who are evil
People do. Sometimes 2 or 3 jobs that are all part time and don't provide benefits
art raiders
dunno it seems to be half an half from all the americans ive spoken to
yah most don't want it
What are we talking about 🤨
AOC doesnt take money from the health care industry
half are so indoctrinated they actually think paying 3x as much for much worse care is actually a good thing
Health care
well hopefully that works out then, it would be the best thing that could possibly happen for the US people
The origins of this are interesting, it’s because we had price controls on wages during ww2 and so companies had to offer other benefits to incentivize employees. Health insurance became a common benefit, and over time we built an entire healthcare infrastructure around it. That’s why US healthcare admin costs are like 25% while every other OECD country is between 2-5%: lots of middlemen trying to make money. We ironically have the most bureaucratic healthcare system in the world
we have a lot of work to do to get this old ship back on course
verifiably untrue but, regardless, a lot of that has to do with manufactured consent
we simply must do it or we are over as a nation
"the people who disagree with me are brainwashed"
i think thats the biggest one though, the amount of poverty in the US absolutely blew my mind the first time i went there
poll and poll shows that people want it
then you think about how those people cant even see a doctor
and you get these indoctrinated goons saying its a good thing
its really sad. last time i was in LA it was a hellhole
not when the phrasing mentions their taxes would go up
Most major cities in the US are like that
only been to LA once and yeh same sentiment it was horrible
not about everything but certainly about things like basic livability in the richest country on earth
dude how else would universal health care be paid for. people arent dumb.
ugh so much big words 🥀
look it up
look up what
thing is these goons saying about taxes going up forget they wont have to pay half a grand a month for health insurance anymore xD
how you're wrong about polls 🙂
I mean...
dunno, this guy does seem incredibly dumb
I'm dumb n stupid I don't know how else universal healthcare could be paid for 😓😓😔
yah now look up polls that mention trading it for increased taxes
same way the entire modern world pays for it
the floor falls out
those taxes are much smaller then what you'd be paying usually for healthcare anyways
link it
My theory is they aren’t dumb, they intentionally ignore facts they disagree with because it threatens their identity as the “facts first” folks despite being objectively wrong about most things
If everyone pays into the same thing then everyone is incentivized to keep healthcare costs low. They just shot down negotiating drug prices for medicare and are now trying deadset on trying to get rid of medicare, removing any mechanism for the government to keep down drug prices
ask siri
I mean if everyone is contributing to it then hell yeah
no I gave you one link now you give me one or else I am gonna assume youre talking out ur ass
thats how this works
you can assume what you want and remain uneducated
never talk to me again
like this guy wont shut up about "tax goes up" but purposely ignores the increase in tax would be way less than the health insurance they pay every month, absolute dingus
yeah exactly
Internet arguments in a nutshell I just saw
it'd be negligible compared to the exorbitant prices people pay for BASIC coverage, and then they still get their claims denied anyways even if they do pay up for it ❤️
what are we arguing about i want in
socialism
It's usa shit. Youwont understand Canada BOY.
Universal healthcare and why it's stupid America doesn't have it
Now let's hear why people think tariffs are paid by the country selling the goods
the clown said the thing
im canadian so im for it
I'm actually quite well educated on the issue. You seem to be fairly ignorant of the issue as a whole
socialism is not when "we pay extra taxes for BASIC FUCKING SERVICES" LMFAOOO
The US government already partakes in socialism, just for the rich instead of normal people
dont confuse him
Socialism is just a term used by propogandists and conspiracy theorists to support the agenda of the ruling class
socialism is when the uh
The monee n like the people don't get the monee and like the rich ppl take the monee n stuff
i think we should have at least one socialized video game studio to make an extraction shooter
its mad that the first thing that happens when you guys go to hospital is everyone has an argument about how its gonna be paid for
Now you're cooking with gas, baby
what about plagiarism
Can someone explain socialism in Fortnite terms
It's like getting 90'd by a John wick while you're trying build a 1x1 as a default skin
its the boogie man buzzword for boomers
so the whole squad pools heals and ammo, even though there are carries and stuff even the shitters get equal to the goats, which helps the shitters but messes with the pros yknow
also you're forced to ride on a bus
heroes of the storm was a socialist moba
no ?
does fortnite not still do the party bus?
yeah but thats not socialism
(The context is our right wing hates public transportation for some reason)
But you should always thank the driver because its a nice thing to do and it gives an exp bonus
public transit bro
you need to understand this goon doesnt know what socialism is
Why does this make sense
im ngl i dont use it i prefer owning a vehicle but its chill if you wanna use it
because youre 14
If public transit was set up better it would be fuckin amazing
I don’t play Fortnite is this a real mechanic
yes
Yes
They're helping kids to be NICE.
Japan has some amazing forms of public transportation
y is public transit socialism?
i can understand why they hate it, public transport in the US is absolutely terrible...really needs a lot of investment they might stop hating it if they make it actually useful
the right wing wants everything to be privatized. The party and the backers want it to siphon more money from everyone else and the supporters operate under the delusion that the free market is a self optimizing system
He’s getting a check from General Motors
based
and pfizer
Well sure it’s nice to own a vehicle but if everyone in an urban center has to own a vehicle and use it to get around you either have massive traffic or massive real estate devoted to roads, both of which are economically inefficient. Public transport is one of those government investments that returns what you spend on it tenfold in economic efficiency
They want large corporations to own everything and for the middle class to be eradicated
public transport in america is a mess. were the same size as australia and we only have like 3 trains going from one side to another. its laughable
which is why i dont live in urban centres, but its def preferable in them to use public tranport
its how bad the local public transport is that got me
just buy a car duh
k
i do live in an urban center and i drive anyway
yeah its a shambles. no wonder people drive cars
Who knows if this game still dropping in September?
I nose
they havent said otherwise, also neeyth nose
Fun fact: the Michelin Star program, the one which rates restaurants on quality, was originally created by the tire company. They wanted to tell their customers about all these cool restaurants that were far away so people would drive there, put more wear on their tires, and buy tires more often
yeh it fucked me up the first time i went, figured eh i wont bother renting a car i can just use public transport...i rented a car the second day
ask @dull estuary
great fun fact thanks unc
Doesn't everyone in the world know that
So much big words...learning to much 🥀🥀
lmfao
isnt economics so fun neeyth 🙂
not even originally, it's still published by michelin tires
I think you have a very optimistic view of humanity
Its draining
dude i couldnt get anywhere, no busses, no trains...nothing
i love it but i get how people hate it
You got 2 feet
The traffic issue is actually multifaceted and not strictly tied to car ownership. One issue is that America was supposed to have way better way more parking structures acting as "hubs" where people would then go to high foot traffic areas. This fell through. Another issue is that people work too densely too far, which public transit simply can't account for. Japan can't have this problem because its literally not even the same size. Then you add on the fact that the major automotive companies personally sabotaged and destroyed trolley and public transit systems in major cities and yeah it makes it seem like its just one issue.
yeh i use them a lot here but america is not a walkable country or safe for that matter
skill issue
It’s a very safe country
not according to crime statistics
That’s a dangerous conversation right there
Stl safe to walk around watchu on gng
I just bike everywhere.
Yeah, lack of investment in public transport makes it bad, people see it's bad so they don't use it, people don't want to pay for something they don't use, so public transportation gets worse. The only people that suffer are the ones that have to use public transport. I lived in a city and started driving as soon as I could
Everything's safe when I got the switch on me
Like Nintendo
....yeah...
yeh exactly the issue it just blew my mind that there is literally nothing
e bike or pedal
pedal
is it legal to have the cod automatic pistol from modern warfare 3
Biking I feel is more dangerous than walking cause u can get it stolen gng
damn cardio king
gotta stay fit. I'm old 👍
Lose ur transportation
i fw that heavy tim ❤️
No lmfao
Oh, but surely a shotgun Remington from call of the duties is legal
everyone should be more like tim and get your cardio in 🙂
Oh it’s definitely a multifaceted issue, I’m just saying “buy a car” isn’t a good substitute for lack of public transport, for the reasons I described. The US is a lot larger than a country like Japan overall, but its has population centers of similar density to cities in Japan with an order of magnitude less efficient public transport - mostly due to lack of investment. That’s a major problem. Another major problem is lack of good public transportation connecting economic hubs: if I want to take public transport from my city to the next closest major city, my options are a train that leaves at 5am or a bus that takes five hours (the drive is 2 hours)
If it only does semi auto then maybe
I mean, crime has fallen year over year every year according to crime statistics. You sure you don't mean crime vibes?
long as it was manufactured before 1986
seems like that would be the best option
r call of duty loadouts legal in Canada chief
Yes
fuck no, i mean yeah kinda but like depends on your loadout
Lmfaoo
Like pistol riot shield ....
Running crossbow and knife
yeah thats legal
we have guns its just much harder to get than the us
89th in the world on crime index in 2025
America is a safe country overall. Your chances of getting shot are just about non-existent if you’re not involved in drugs, gangs, or are white
can you guys have for honor weapons too
like i know people with ar 15's n stuff
yurp
Let me just stroll through albuquerque real quick
im working on changing that last one #equality
I should keep talking ignorant and clueless this is fun
yes bro keep asking questions ill answer them vro
As long as it ain't arrogance then go for it
I kinda forgot how arrogance works I'm actually serious
me too vro 💔
crime in the developed world has fallen year over year every year. Being less safe than another country doesn't mean your country is unsafe. It's not an ELO score
actually i didnt im arrogant isnt it like having a big ego
Arrogance is ignorance but refusing to change ur belief in something
Oh so like 90% of reddit
no, that'd be bots
elon musk reddit key (look it up)
And 90% of this chat
yeh an you are ranked 89th which is poor
I’ll never visit any city I can’t easily spell
WTF LMAO???
reddit government 💔
is this gonna be absolute meme?
idk what this means but yes bro
Buffalo 💀
What is that key for I'm sorry
the white house
bro has a white house reddit key ...
all i got was a picture of him holding a key
gifted from the president 💔
can I have a marathon key
on the key is the reddit logo
but....why, unless it means hes gonna buy reddit then im excited
Someone has a pic of Donald's and Elon key and elons doesn't even look like real gold
Buffalo?
omg i just realized its reddit gold
Thanks for the gold, kind president!
I see why Europeans think America is a funny thing wtf are we rn
Lmfao
What are we doing this weekend fellas
Working🥀
Pain
watching this ufc card ofc!!!! I CANT WAITTTT
Being stupid in a Chat full of strangers!!
painting a shed
Yeah you get it.
and that
I mean, it could definitely be better
Forgot about ufc what time is it tonight?
its either gonna be the best card or the worst card no inbetween
Are u sports betting chief?
630 est for prelims
Aight thanks
no comment (im bouta be a brazllionaire)
Thats the spirit
oh yeah and ill watch the F1 tomorrow
I got Blanchfield on this one
I bet sometimes, not on a card like this though
No one asked but I love the ultra kill versus theme, it feels so showdown like
yo the welterweight fight this guys names billy ray golf that cannot be real
might be a new steam name
this shit hard im ngl
They have Gamrot fighting WAYYYY down , what's up with that
I asked
oh wtf yeah i didnt even notice
Thank. U malek and chief I can always count on u two
#5 vs #17 lol
No one asked but its hard to decide between Box 15 or Danganronpa V3s main theme
have you seen yan and the other guy i forget, #3 vs #12 like wtf is that
I just hope all those sweet boys get a juicebox and a nice hug after their big fight
Strange matchmaking for sure. We always get those really weird fight nights before big PPVs
im hyped for olivera vs topuria im praying we see dirty dick do bronx take it home
Merab about to wrestlefuck O Malley again
Did I walk into a waffle house in the south
ok that is the worst fight ive seen all year like wtf
Real I want Charles to win, but man..... I think he gets slept
u want WHO to win?
im ngl thats all topuria can do tho olivera can out grapple ez
@ember warren of course
i would if i could if topuria takes olivera out im getting him
Topuria apparently has ridiculous BJJ that he's never had to use. I'd like to see it
ive been praying on illias downfall since he beat volk
there is no way its better than olivera im sorry
Yeah probably not , hope Charles doesn't fall in loving with his striking and actually tries to drown him instead
Don't stand with Ilia lol
i mean if olivera knocks topuria out he would be the goat im ngl
True that
olivera does got that dawg in him maybe enough to strike with topuria (no way)
Sorry for the UFC talk part 7 guys
im not dude ufc is the BEST!!!
Bungie where u at , I need updates , you're losing me here
hijacked the marathon discord to talk about ufc ts dead asl
antireal my goat
what's y'all favorite favorite
Hmmmmm
Take ur time, I know it's a hard question
I can’t say mine here among the kiddos
Sharp eyes.
i dont even understand the question
What's your favorite, favorite?
my favourite what?
Yes
Your favorite, favorite
Woah.
What is the best favorite you have that is your favorite
Meth i guess
Good pick
They're legos lmao
computer major psyop
They said they're legos ☠️
every june i lose more faith in bungie
Is my identity even valid if I dropped out of my first semester on comp sci pathway because I was pulling 60 hours a week at the jail management software company? 😵
of course it's valid slime, but renew it by 2028 ok?
Comp sci and an overachiever with imposter syndrome. Yes. That's valid.
Do get the certs/degree.
I’d advise any young person getting a degree now to avoid comp sci. There are better paths if you want to do programming
Paths like pathfinder apex
How does this affect the release of marathon
Depends on if they mean programming and the end goal, but yes, degrees have issues
How else can you afford games without a career
Or get into Information Systems and make much more money with much less effort lol
No one at Bungie took my advice
Exactly what I did. My comp sci buddies are envious
I told Bungie to add Miku
I get games for free!! (U can't ask how)
shouldn't go to college unless you're in like 90th+ percentile for standard tests, and even then it's a maybe
I told them to add Star Wars
I'm a sysAd working from home for 4 years , well into six figs and I do about 5 hours of real work a week.
Ain't no way I'm staring at code for 50 hours a week lol
Solo - RiveR
I went analytics -> management. I do my two favorite things for a living: writing a lot and telling people what to do
Nice, I still have a lot of love for the hardware and the infrastructure side of things so I technically wear a bunch of different hats. I don't know shit about programming but I have 2 types of programming buddies, those who hate their jobs and those who can't find one
Speaking of river what anyone know about operation flash point red river
had someone trying to get me to go back to writing lua recently, like dude if you want someone to do that get a teenager fresh out of uni im hilariously beyond that
I’m gonna put it in you
Guh?
Dude syrup rocks
Nah im all in on sales now, slung 16 contracts and 10 prepaids in 5 days
I put it on my pancakes
Real maple syrup is so complex and delicious. I hate the fake shit
And that's just my first week back since January, im so Barack. Young girl never joever again
Huh? The alpha is months behind the development of the game. The beta is a sample of the completed game what we saw in alpha is no closer to what they’re developing the alpha is supposed to be bad the first play test for arc was terrible The second play test was amazing
Show me proof
i love it when people have literally no clue how something works but just yap like they do
I’m not the one who believes the Alpha and the beta are the same thing
It might be a few months behind but this is cope, and i rly enjoyed the alpha
holy dumbass
The devs have genuinely said the Alpha is months behind
^^^^
yeh its a stable trunk build from a few months back, most betas will be the same situation
How is it cope then
dude is just too special to understand
They've also said half the guns aren't present
Dude, the beta is a sample of the completed game
^^^
Were there alot of guns? Felt like i saw very little but then again i didnt watch a ton or get access
With how vague Bungie has been, it's hard to say how much of an improvement Beta will be over Alpha.
They've literally given little to no details on what is being worked on besides indoor lighting and moving trees.
Lol
you think they are just sat on a completed game releasing little bits as betas
There’s no point in arguing with walls
imo more loot isn’t going to be enough
dude is so dumb
What’s your favorite wall mine is the Great Wall of china
I like.....the Alcatraz wall
Berlin
I like HRT
I think they are making sure none of that artist stuff is still in game and hopefully adding the stuff people actually want before they pop back out.
No, it won't be.
Game needs a crafting system, doesn't have to be complex, but something small enough to get into and passively create materials and resources for the player as they raid
I don't have it but I like it.
Who wanna be a pirate n conquer lands n shit with me
That's illegal and violates DMCA
Don’t have enough to fly to Somalia gng sorry 😭 ✌️
I’m the captain now
ugh lame y'all not ready to conquer worlds like I am
We gotta bring it back gang. The landlubbers are getting too comfy.
See SOMEONE gets it Finally!! we need to start capturing seas and islands n shit
You gotta put firecrackers in your hair
What about... Facing worlds
https://youtu.be/i_0G6WPuss4?si=6ujeVzgKRom6qP4u
Where my fems at?
Instead of peglegs its gonna be blades like those amputee sprinters
Type unreal shit you get it
Oh my God the amen breaks they were the original amen break spammers
It's kinda bad that I really wanna try those out
Idk how far off we are but there's no way we don't eventually have like, organic donors from people augmenting.
Its gonna be very black comedy.
Remember that puma advert where they had footballers with robotic cat legs, gonna be that
Ahhhhhhhh :3 know what I'm hungy for?
Why it's not late..
a little bit of... looooooove :3
🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵
No but now I'm going to willingly watch a puma ad. Which is the second time puma has gotten my attention for some stupid bull ish
Puma sonic shoes
It's from that part of the early 2000s when adverts were just really good for some reason
If you liked it I have good news supposedly productions started on the second one and they've sworn it will be made.
I check the Wikipedia page regularly
Like early early script stuff I think
Well that's good news
still copium huffers in here or do we admit the game is DOA now?
They already have that bro
Still here, apparently the game will be totally different when it comes out or something
yeah.. we'll see 😂
People say crazy shit under the effects of copium
Yeah because the completed game will totally be the same thing as the alpha
When it comes out it will have miku.
it will be with minor tweaks
See I summoned the moron for you
But only I will be able to play as miku
If that’s what you want to believe
ESCAPE WILL MAKE US GOD. 🏳️⚧️
you dont even have the picture flair, not a real fan
0 clue how games are developed
I keep going back to the arc Raiders analogy. The first play test was garbage and nowhere close to the second play test
lol you believe the alpha and the beta are the same thing I don’t think you’re a real human
Have you seen the korg miku guitar effect pedal?
arc raiders didnt release an alpha 4 months before release
When did I say they did?
I'm literally a game designer, this is my job absolute clown
I've seen the fucking price tag and seen a few friends make their own instead 💀
youre trying to use it as an argument for marathon somehow being better on release
It's hilarious but yeh not worth the price at all
We don’t even know the release date for arc Raiders so how does that even make sense? Also, I compared the two play test that released
A lot of real pedals are that way. Hell. Guitars in general.
Klon centaur
Throw a rock and EMG will sell something for 1000 bucks
Yeh the pricing in the guitar industry is interesting
Half of it's based on prestige
what does this have to do marathon being released
Because he’s not talking about marathon
We are in the marathon discord that is all that should be discussed
this is the marathon general chat ?
thonmara
I don’t see anyone enforcing that so I’ll take that as a no
Well you are about to
Nope
you didn't ask him anything wdym "take that as a no"
LMFAOO okay big man
Nothing happening with art raiders to talk about ATM
That’s right I am a big man, little boy
DMs then? another server?
No as in nobody is enforcing the topic to be all about marathon
you should really respect authority
Please you're both great nukes.
Nobody asked that tho
K ban me then
Begone
Fr. The goat is speaking
No? I thought so
It’s coming in due time I like to play with my food first
No the complete opposite
Syrups the best Traxus member
❤️
Im sorry for your loss
So you're actually the big boy
Gonna hurt worse after I spank you with this big banhammer
Game = blows
Yes
Yesn't
above or below 300lb
Leave blow out of this
Vacuum = sucks
you say that as if Art raiders is even a game
Its a concept album.
if this game actually releases I'll laugh so hard
I’m 900lb
I thought it was a temporary art instillation that’s going to last 3
Days
Syrup and fluffy, notice how we're on topic now?
Pure muscle
That’s an understatement
Its a mood piece.
We’re literally talking aboutweight
Bad mood piece
Wait 🥀
talking about shit is on topic, got it
🏳️⚧️
ESCAPE WILL MAKE US GOD. 🏳️⚧️ 