🗣marathon-general-chat

[subtle lodge]

no no no, you fire management, 343i fired literally their entire management structure after halo infinite, including VP of microsoft bonnie ross

[golden viper]

He got fired for sexual harassment. Not due to the game. Still, he did a horrid job

Being a weirdo and being incompetent. Quite the combo

[subtle lodge]

at least at blizzard the creeps were good at their jobs

[hybrid geyser]

Oh don’t get me wrong, I am definitely not claiming it’s gonna be perfect in 4 months. That’s why I was saying before that I have no idea what’s finished in the game, since they are being secretive about it due to the whole world building and surprise and secrets aspect. So I genuinely have no idea if they will pull it off. The only thing I’m trying to say is, that I think it’s best to wait and see the beta, cuz betas are basically the final game with a few polishing needs. So by then we will know for sure if they pulled it off or not. Just feel its much more prudent to wait and see the final product to make a definitive assessment on the game is all

[subtle lodge]

this isn't a beta anymore, this is 100% getting delayed

[golden viper]

They’re being secretive cuz they don’t have enough to show

[subtle lodge]

so this is more of a pre-alpha now

[serene elm]

compression shirts all the way

[golden viper]

If you are launching 4 months from now; you have to be in Beta phase. 4 months left and it’s still alpha, complete failure of project management

[hybrid geyser]

Very well could be, but I can’t say it harms me in any way to just wait and see. Not to mention the beta is gonna be free and open to the public, so I’ll make a judgement based on my experience. In that sense

[wintry isle]

343 shouldn't be any where near halo

[hybrid geyser]

On that, I couldn’t agree more MORE!!!

[golden viper]

Looking back, Bungie would have also fucked Halo too

[wintry isle]

Sad to see how they ruined such a big ip

[subtle lodge]

yeah but if you fire the entire upper level management/leads, is it 343i anymore?

[hybrid geyser]

Man Halo days were it!

[frank urchin]

Yeah, Halo really needs a real comeback

[serene elm]

It’s alr we still on halo reach firefight

[wintry isle]

Maybe it wasnt just a mangement problem

[golden viper]

It was

[hybrid geyser]

I miss hoping on halo and making custom games and maps, not to mention the campaigns and the title screen music, THAT SHIT HIT!!

[golden viper]

They had to bring in Joe Staten to clean up the mess that was Infinite

[wintry isle]

I would wanna see how good the devs r tbh

[golden viper]

It’s a miracle infinite shipped in the state it’s in

[subtle lodge]

yeah but management is basically where every bad decision is okayed or directed, them shitcanning all upper level people guarantees an improvement just by it being a reroll of the studio

[golden viper]

It is an amazing masterpiece? No. But it’s serviceable

Maybe a 7/10 game

[frank urchin]

We need some sort of reboot, or a huge jump into the future. Halo Campaign was so good, and multi-player just kept people playing it again and again.

[subtle lodge]

just pull a star wars and say everything after 3/reach/odst is non canon, nobody will miss the story elements from 4 forward

[serene elm]

They cancelled a helldivers 2 type halo game where you play as odst’s 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 biggest fumble

[subtle lodge]

oh no some space gorillas are mad at master chief, what a glorious story

[frank urchin]

I did like 4s campaign xD

[golden viper]

We need the equivalent of a Sonic Mania for Halo. AA budget game that is a throwbacks. None of this open world shit in the campaign. No realistic AAA graphics. Make it old school feelin g

Hire boomer shooters devs with a good pedigree

[serene elm]

He got whooped by atriox tho

[hybrid geyser]

So real!!! Genuine golden days. Those games and the features and mechanics they introduced, inspired so many games after them. Truly a defining moment in gaming history. What a time

[frank urchin]

Just for the love of good, no more two main character campaigns.

[subtle lodge]

also on the topic of halo, splitgate 2 is so fucking bad holy shit, they made it way less halo'y and it feels like garbage now

[golden viper]

Rip

Multiplayer FPS market can’t catch a break

[subtle lodge]

also you can only shoot portals on little portal walls now, which are small and nowhere near as plentiful as "yeah you can portal half the walls in the game"

[golden viper]

Get the Ultrakill dev to make Halo

Or any esteeemd Boomer Shooter dev

[frank urchin]

How is Ultrakill?

[golden viper]

Fucking amazing

[serene elm]

Doom dev would know what to do

[frank urchin]

Honestly I just want another DOOM 2016

[serene elm]

Halo infinite has some doom mechanics just toned down to a 100 so

[golden viper]

They’re too busy making awesome doom

[lilac pebble]

i'm still mad at the dogshit ass campaign

literally felt like EVERYTHING interesting happened off screen and we're just left to clean up

[serene elm]

Whole thing felt dry apart from that atriox cameo

[frank urchin]

I reinstalled Halo I finite multi-player the other day. There's a bug that wouldn't let me go past the main screen

[golden viper]

What we need is a Sonic Mania style retro revival for Halo Campaign

Just make a campaign that is exactly like the Halo 1-3 campaign. F*ck open world. Make it linear. Give it a AA budget. Get esteeemd boomer shooters devs to make it

[serene elm]

Wtf

[lilac pebble]

right? and it's a shame because the acting and visuals were great, just wasted on absolute mid

[golden viper]

Fuck open world

[frank urchin]

Seriously, I looked it up online. It's happened to other people on PC

[serene elm]

Cosmic space game only for the whole game to take place in a grassy area

[lilac pebble]

real

[golden viper]

Halo doesn’t need to be AAA. They can easily make the equivalent of halo 3 on a AA budget, and just make it a bit stylized

Stop trying to turn Halo into some modern AAA behemoth

[restive minnow]

Marathon could easily do a multiverse thing where Halo's universe intersects

[serene elm]

It would just get turned into a collab to sell skins

[subtle lodge]

It should have just been a mode in destiny

[golden viper]

You mean extraction? Yeah

[restive minnow]

Absolutely. But it could also be a way to connect all their IPs into one big universe

[golden viper]

I don’t trust Bungie with any of that shit

[frank urchin]

Or we could just let them be their own thing

[golden viper]

It would just be a nickel and diming scheme

[restive minnow]

Fair enough

[serene elm]

I just want another good halo game

[golden viper]

Fuck what AAA industry did to AAA shooters

They took a great fun genre and turned it into some Skinner box scheme, completely missing the whole point

There’s no making a fun multiplayer fps game out of passion anymore. It’s now just soulless corpos doing copy paste job because they want live service money

Give me the golden age back. I want halo 3, Killzone 2, MAG, rainbow six, all that shit was great

It was fun cuz they were games designed first as campaigns then with awesome multiplayer

There were games first, not bloody monetization vehicles

[subtle lodge]

on the flip side games had a shelf life of about two years and we got a ton of copy paste sequels

then again thats what call of duty does now lmao

[earnest matrix]

Imagine paying 70usd just for 10-15h campaign

[restive minnow]

I would

[golden viper]

Still better than this shit. At least they had fun campaigns you can play

[raw tundra]

i agree theres a ton of indie fps games that are great, they all dont have to have "sick" graphics to be good, i wish these people didnt push "realistic graphics" so much.

[serene elm]

100% look at cod now there’s no identity to it anymore because there are skins like timothee chalamet and the tmnt being advertised daily

[golden viper]

They weren’t forever erased off the face of the planet

[golden viper]

I don’t give a shit about CoD

[serene elm]

I don’t think most people do anymore lol

[golden viper]

Boomer shooters are keeping fps alive. But there is a void that isn’t being filled in the multiplayer fps market. And I mean actual good fucking games

[balmy oriole]

Oh wow TMNT really is in CoD, that's wild

[golden viper]

Not live service slop

[restive minnow]

One word. Bungieverse. Infinite money.

[serene elm]

I mean battlefront 2 is popping rn if u count that as an fps

[serene elm]

pretty sure megan the stallion is in it aswell I hate call of duty so much

[restive minnow]

Why is BF2 poppin rn

[raw tundra]

there sure is a void, but if devs didnt push these hardcore graphics, then more people with lower end PCs would be able to join in the fun, which means more players, which is always a win in my view.

[restive minnow]

Cuz I love that game

[serene elm]

Big demand for bf3 so people are playing bf2 to let ea know there’s an audience for battlefront games

[restive minnow]

Nice

[golden viper]

💯 agreed. Fuck all this fancy graphics bullshit. They need to just stop. Look at Valorant it can run on a toaster and it’s one of the most played fps rn

[serene elm]

The children yearn for ultra kill

[balmy oriole]

I don't like it when games force TAA or DLSS or some other kind of upscaling or frame generation because they're too graphically demanding to just run normally

[golden viper]

And I hate Valorant lol but I gotta give it credit. I’d rather play it over any of these half backed live service schemes

[raw tundra]

look dont get me wrong, graphics dont have to be absolute dog shit, but example of this is doom FORCES raytracing? why? just so less people can enjoy the game.

[subtle lodge]

im waiting for overwatch to die now, they gave me a two week ban for saying "stupid ana" after the ana called me a bad tank

[golden viper]

Massive L, expected better from iD

[serene elm]

Exactly i don’t need to see a characters skin pores lmao

[balmy oriole]

I saw the Civvie video, and I think he showed an article that said it was so that they could rush out the game faster instead of doing more manual forms of lighting

[subtle lodge]

to be fair, dlss ultra performance is getting pretty good, at 4k its entirely usable and has only 11% of the pixels of 4k lmao

[serene elm]

Art style >> graphics

[golden viper]

This stupid industry forces these stupid AAA graphics on consumers and developers. The PS5 has brought absolutely fuck all to gaming. The best selling games are still playable on PS4

[subtle lodge]

im glad fortnite has killed pay to win multiplayer purchases outside of sports slop and gachaslop though

[halcyon nexus]

pretty sure the ps5 i like one of the only consoles in history to go up in praice after being out for a while

[subtle lodge]

loot boxes still fucking existed before fortnite killed them, fortnite also got us crossplay

[raw tundra]

and also alot of games just releasing un optimized these days too

[balmy oriole]

I think Star Wars Battlefront 2 had a hand in ending lootboxes

[halcyon nexus]

yup

[golden viper]

Sony went from Shadow of the Colossus, masterpiece, to now shitting out live service junk

[subtle lodge]

Star Wars Battlefront 2 led to players hating it, but Fortnite making billions led to companies being willing to replace it with pay 2 pretty and battle passes

Valve is years behind trends now, still relying on loot boxes for cs2 and dota

[serene elm]

Yeah but I’m still willing to give phantom zero a chance 😔

[halcyon nexus]

saying sony made SOC is like saying microsoft made halo

[edgy sky]

Marathon 2028

[subtle lodge]

god

[golden viper]

Sony is publishing it? Looks good

[golden viper]

Japan studio was set up by Sony

[serene elm]

Yes and I’m hoping it comes out being a gem and not a rock lmao

[golden viper]

And they fucking closed it like fucking idiots

[subtle lodge]

I am still lmaoing that sony cancelled
SPIDERMAN GAME AS A SERVICE GAME
LAST OF US GAME AS A SERVICE GAME
GOD OF WAR LIVE SERVICE GAME
TWISTED METAL LIVE SERVICE GAME

BUT released or is releasing
CONCORD
FAIRGAME$
MARATHON
GUMMY BEARS GAME

[golden viper]

Lmao, fuck em

[subtle lodge]

marathon can be salvaged but what the fuck at the other 3

[golden viper]

Oh Fairgames is not getting released

It will get canned

[edgy sky]

The last of us live service was bad i heard

[serene elm]

Don’t remind me of the cancelled MULTIPLAYER spiderman game please it hurts my soul

[subtle lodge]

they could have 100% had a support studio make it and then just sold what they had as a budget/$40 to $50 title, I refuse to believe cancelling it was the only viable option when they fucking haven't cancelled fairgame$ yet

Bungie bamboozled Sony into thinking they know games as a service

[edgy sky]

Separate studio is making a d2 mobile game and it already has features that should have been in d2💀

[golden viper]

No Ape Escape
No Sly Cooper
No Resistance
No Killzone

But here is some live service slop

[serene elm]

200 million wasted on developing concord??

[midnight torrent]

Omega yikes from this game boys

[edgy sky]

Concord gameplay didnt even look bad fr

[golden viper]

400 million

[raw tundra]

i dont care if a game has live service, as long as its good.

[serene elm]

It’s a gacha game but it’s ok though I used to grind genshin 😔✌️

[balmy oriole]

It could be double that, $400 million on bringing Concord to life... for two weeks

[subtle lodge]

200 to buy the concord studio, then 200 that the concord studio spent from investor money
sony might have paid only around $200,000,000 but concord was a $400,000,000 game

[serene elm]

Joke of a game

[edgy sky]

Marathon can be good but bungie selling

[halcyon nexus]

marathon gotta be past 200M at this point

[golden viper]

if the PS5 wasn’t selling well, they would be financially fucked. It still doesn’t justify the absolute money pit

[subtle lodge]

keep in mind that sega's cancelled game hyenas cost $100,000,000 and sega shitcanned it as soon as the beta bombed

[serene elm]

okay and they made $2,000 in overall sales 🔥🔥 goated game

[restive minnow]

I mean it keeps devs working so I don't really care if a project ultimately fails to deliver and they pull the plug as long as consumers get their money back of course

[serene elm]

Word

[golden viper]

Oh, I got some bad news

Remember Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio? Sega wants to make live service versions

[serene elm]

???

R they ok

[subtle lodge]

honestly those games would work as subgames within a larger game

[balmy oriole]

I don't know if they refunded microtransactions, if they didn't that could be an accurate estimate for how much money they made
They did refund people for the game itself though, $0 was made from game sales

[subtle lodge]

imagine playing jet set radio and you see a friend doing crazy taxi routes drive by you

[round cape]

The concord micro transactions didn't even ship

[golden viper]

The only saving grace is that there still will be a single player jet set radio alongside the live service one

[serene elm]

They sold concordillion copies 🤑🤑

[round cape]

Anyway go play splitgate 2 it's the official Marathon 2025 waiting room for cool cats

[golden viper]

Idk, hopefully this hyena’s shit scared them from doing any more wannabe fps live service crap

[balmy oriole]

Sega wants Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio to be some sort of weird multiplayer game
Crazy Taxi looks interesting, it kinda looks more like you get the Crazy Taxi mechanics, but also all players pick up passengers in the same spot, and then deliver them to another, so it's basically a race

[subtle lodge]

apparently they're working on a new "super game" that is costing several hundred million dollars, it might explain why they're withholding their IPs from fortnite, they don't want to give a potential competitor access to their valuable IP

[serene elm]

Game of the year will be sure to fry my dopamine receptors to this 🔥🔥🔥

[restive minnow]

is it good

[golden viper]

I think they want JSR to be like Splatoon. Which makes sense ig

[round cape]

Well optimized, pretty, great balance, great gunfeel, fun to move in, lots of modes and maps, free, 14 gigs. For my money? Masterpiece

[golden viper]

So it’s not just a live service, but the equivalent of Fortnite. With all the mini games in it

[restive minnow]

damn

[golden viper]

That is crazy. This is too ambitious for Sega. wtf are they doing

[restive minnow]

downloading rn

[round cape]

Just Do It 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

Why squabble with trolls on marathon discord when you could play splitgate 2 while you wait for launch? 🙊

[restive minnow]

so true bestie

[subtle lodge]

I tried splitgate 2 and they ruined it with higher TTK and stupid portal walls instead of full stages with portal spam

[ember summit]

Sega has gambling money to fall back on

[restive minnow]

✋ 😮‍💨 🤚 I give up

[ember summit]

Look it up its their main revenue

[restive minnow]

back to trackmania

[balmy oriole]

Sega has infinite wealth from Yakuza to fall back on

[subtle lodge]

I get that reference

[golden viper]

They make so much from pachinko. But it’s still a really dumb move to try to compete with fucking Fortnite

[ember summit]

I do not like gortnight

[subtle lodge]

they might want roblox money even more - roblox has 15 million concurrent players (but like 90% of them are poor kids with no money), and fortnite only as 2 right now

[ember summit]

And will not rectify my mispelling

[ember summit]

Plus scam bots

[golden viper]

So multiple games in one big mega game?

[subtle lodge]

they've been working on an extraction shooter mode for several years (look up project arnold for leaks) so it's instantly going to compete with marathon at a price tag of $0.00

[ember summit]

Oh.

Why project Arnold that's a weird name lol

[golden viper]

How the fuck can this work? Jet set radio, crazy taxi, panzer dragoon, whatever else. They play so differently. Aren’t the games in Fortnite or Roblox at least similar?

[ember summit]

Destructible maps?

Ehst spanxer dragoon

[subtle lodge]

They choose random names for their stuff, and not sure on destructability since nothings destructable in the FPS mode they added

[subtle lodge]

Also I dunno if the supergame is a fortnite style competitor or if its leveraging all their IPs into a combined game, I just know it exists and its costing them like $500,000,000 so far

[ember summit]

HOW MUCH?!?!?

[golden viper]

Wait wat

Jfc, wat. Is Sega smoking crack like the 32x days wtf

[subtle lodge]

wait im wrong - $800 mil https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1720214203477213419 lmao

[golden viper]

If they do this; sonic has to be the face of it

[ember summit]

EIGHTTTTTT HUNDTED?!?!?!??!?!

[golden viper]

This is insane, they gotta put sonic in the title or some shit

[subtle lodge]

no wonder they cancelled hyenas, that was money they needed for the super game

[golden viper]

WTF

[round cape]

Play takedown for full portal chains 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[balmy oriole]

The first place I heard of the Crazy Taxi and JSR multiplayer reboots, was a news article saying Sega wanted them to become a live service similar to Fortnite BR, I guess by that they mean a game where you can flaunt your cosmetics and pay in a cash shop for more cosmetics

[serene elm]

tru but they got customisable mandolorian now 🔥🔥

[golden viper]

Sega wants to be epic

[obsidian plover]

Ew

[ember summit]

The fan base is ick

[serene elm]

Word

[ember summit]

And it panders to children while being a game for YOUNGE ADULTS

Or sum idk i think it's rated m in my country

[golden viper]

800 mill

Goddammit

This shit better have Sonic plastered all over it, cuz that is the only way they can justify 800 million

800 wtf

[serene elm]

Yeah that’s true but yk battlefront 2 is active again 🔥🔥

[ember summit]

Golden Diamond encrusted sonic with every copy of the game

[golden viper]

Just keep making awesome yakuza games lil bro

Jfc 800 mill wat

[ember summit]

I think yakuza in Hawaii has them a little too confident

[golden viper]

Sega are too confident from all the success they’ve had as a publisher

800 mill, it reeks of over ambition

[ember summit]

Atleast they aren't assholes to their fanbase

[golden viper]

Well, they don’t have Nintendo’s clout, so they gotta play nice

[ember summit]

They are the opposite of nintendo

Praying for Nintendo's downfall ong make their next game bad

[balmy oriole]

Sega may have underestimated how hard it is to make a live service
They also made Sonic Rumble, which looked like it was doing okay, but then they announced it would go pay to win and I think people are afraid of that now

[golden viper]

Yeah, Sega are more consumer friendly, but that’s cuz they lost the console war. If the roles were reversed, they’d be as harsh as Nintendo

[ember summit]

Ong i got their last console

[golden viper]

It was a great console

[serene elm]

As bad as they are I doubt they’ll have a huge downfall their recent games are buns bro and they’re still regarded as one of the biggest game companies

[golden viper]

They made great games and consoles but they sucked at business

Plus arcades dying def played a role, they were kings of that shit

[ember summit]

And fan relations are...

Yeesh...

[serene elm]

Didn’t they try to sue anyone that played one of their games and posted it on social media lmao

[golden viper]

Idk, maybe Sega can leverage their arcade know how to make a decent multiplayer game Fortnite thing? I guess we’ll wait and see, but taking on Fortnite is fucking crazy

[ember summit]

Yes and then tried to take 30-50% of their profit from the videos

More greedy than a vacume

[serene elm]

Hahahah what leeches

[ember summit]

Ong it's pathetic

AND THEY PRACTICALLY GOT AWAY WITH JT

[golden viper]

I hate Nintendo

[balmy oriole]

Heh yeah the Nintendo creator program, just another part of Nintendo's weird online business decisions

[ember summit]

We all do but dammit their games are good...

[serene elm]

They can throw money at any problem

[ember summit]

Most of them
-# looking at you pokemon

-# (ik it's gamefreak but it's basicly nintendo)

[balmy oriole]

-# Mario Smash Court

[golden viper]

Wait it makes fucking sense now why they made the Sega account thing. Fuck, they really are gonna make their own Fortnite platform thing

This is not gonna end well. This will he Dreamcast level failure I fear

[serene elm]

What games could they possibly be making that needs crossplay

[ember summit]

Ong if it does happen if kinda hope we are wrong fortnight needs a downfall

[balmy oriole]

It'll be Fortnite 2, what we don't know is that it'll be Fortnite Save the World 2 and not Fortnite Battle Royale 2

[obsidian plover]

Already dropping in Player count

[ember summit]

Sonic boom mobile cross platform

[golden viper]

It makes no sense they don’t have an engine like UE

Just put the RGG and Atlus games in the bag bro

[ember summit]

-a dont you have to pay royalties now or sum
-b they want to make their game unique ig or have more controle over the engine

[balmy oriole]

For $800 million maybe they're making an engine, that is enough money to make two Spider-man 2s
Or they could use Unreal

[golden viper]

Hmm I do know that the new JSR will use UE

[ember summit]

Decode the words pls

[balmy oriole]

JSR is Jet Set Radio?

[serene elm]

That’s so much money lmao and to think that’s going towards a game

[golden viper]

They make too much money off steam and are using UE for the JSR reboot. I just don’t see this super game being some Fortnite type mega platform thing

I think JSR is using UE?

[ember summit]

500 golden diamond encrusted office chairs (mandatory for staff productivity)

Ok maybe it's crazy taxi and the other ones are gamemodes

And the live service part is new gamemodes

[serene elm]

Rest of the money goes towards copy and pasting new Pokémon games

[ember summit]

Can't do that other games can't use fucking anything like or similar to pokeballs

[golden viper]

Idk what is dumber this or the Sony live service thing

I guess the Sony thing since at least crazy taxi and JSR would make unique multiplayer games ig

[ember summit]

-# stupid patent

[golden viper]

Can’t he worse than concord

[ember summit]

Did they even learn from it?

[golden viper]

Sony? They learned nothing from concord

[flat depot]

One piece,more like, woke queer

[ember summit]

Too much money from.Their other divisions

Games take up a small portion of their revenue

[balmy oriole]

Concord set a very high bar
Also I guess maybe Marathon and Fairgame$ were already being developed when Concord's first trailer came out, and they just didn't think maybe these games are looking a little Concordy

[golden viper]

Sony? I think gaming is like half

[balmy oriole]

I think Sony's video game division moved from Japan to California, so the video game division isn't entirely connected to the rest of Sony like it once was

[golden viper]

It’s def a bigger share of their revenue than what Xbox is for M$

[ember summit]

Let me check

Maybe I was thinking of xbox

Nvm then

[golden viper]

I can’t get over Sega wanting to take on Fortnite. It sounds so insane of a business move. Liek

It’s Fortnite. Literally the biggest game on the planet. They don’t have the IP to rival it in name recognition outside of sonic

Unless the super game is a sonic game?

Sonic Fortnite killer?

[ember summit]

Do not leave sega unsupervised

[golden viper]

This is 90s Sega level of hubris I can’t see this ending well

800 million

[ember summit]

It'll be funny to watch

[balmy oriole]

This is a whole new level of business strategy, one that can only be thought of by the mind of a person who went to business school

[ember summit]

Now just to ask is it $ and not ¥?

[golden viper]

Hmm

[ember summit]

Because then it would be 8.6 million aud

[golden viper]

That is a good point, it could be in yen. But the article is in English, so the author could have converted it

[ember summit]

Is there a $

[fluid heart]

Is there any update from Bungie regarding the addition of Bigfoot and vehicles to Marathon?

[ember summit]

Big foot shot dead in the bronx

[fluid heart]

I just want to be able to run over bigfoot in a vehicle

[balmy oriole]

If it was 800 million yen, that would be about 8 million dollars, which is pretty tiny for a big publisher's video game, especially a live service game
I don't think that's enough to hire a big team for a live service and have a studio for them to work in

[fluid heart]

Why is 800 million yen only 8 million dollars? why do they need so much yen

[ember summit]

Yeah i said that

[balmy oriole]

I think it's 800 million dollars, so that's 80 billion yen

[ember summit]

8.6 aud

[fluid heart]

80 BILLION!!!!!????

[ember summit]

Inflations a wench

[balmy oriole]

And all of that is going towards one game!

[obsidian plover]

New meme unlocked

[fluid heart]

The yen people are RICH dude!!!!

[ember summit]

Thug does not understand inflation

Or the Japanese currency system

[golden viper]

Are we sure it’s one game, and not just a series of games?

[fluid heart]

nope i dont know what inflation is

[balmy oriole]

Search on Google for pictures of it

[fluid heart]

Lots of arrows pointing up and money...

[ember summit]

Well basicly foreign money can lose or gain value in other countries but when it looses value in other countries without recovery its called inflation (that basicly it)

[fluid heart]

is this another Bungie ARG?

[fluid heart]

Ok so im gonna go to japan and get 80 billion yen then come to my country and be a billionaire

thats pretty cool bro

[ember summit]

You would need 8 million usd

[balmy oriole]

Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio have been revealed, but I dunno about the big game, I've heard of rumours but I don't think Sega's announced it
Still it would be bananas

[round cape]

Why wait for another marathon arg or suffer thru hundreds of bad faith trolls misinforming you about inflation when you could just play splitgate 2? Its the official marathon waiting room

[fluid heart]

Well id just work

[fluid heart]

real talk tho, splitgate 2 aint THAT awesome, atleast imo

[ember summit]

Dude I'm too tired rn I'm not even in the room I'm astral projecting my sleeping mind onto my phone ong

[round cape]

😔

[nocturne oyster]

can you belive it guys, just a week away, the marathon alpha access will be available. i am very excited

just a week away!!

[golden viper]

Splitgate 3 bad? Smh multiplayer fps can’t catch a breaks

[fluid heart]

What do you mean

[ember summit]

I wonder what will happen to destiny rising if bungie eats their own feet

[fluid heart]

what even happened to destiny rising

[nocturne oyster]

bungie will be selecting runners to participate in the alpha access

[ember summit]

(Mobile game)

[ember summit]

Closed beta this week actually

[fluid heart]

jesus they're taking forever

[ember summit]

Legit radio silence since the alpha

[fluid heart]

acting like everyone's gonna play it

not a single person with access to destiny 2 will touch destiny rising

[ember summit]

-# and its still fucking region locked to na)

[round cape]

I might but the gacha is a big turn off

[golden viper]

Do you guys think fair games is canned? I think it will be

[fluid heart]

its a game made for the rich and the chinese, no destiny 2 player will play it

[ember summit]

I already got southpark gatcha game for that thx

I got manbearpig after 5000$!

[round cape]

Well I'm not rich I'm not Chinese but I do play destiny 2 and I'm willing to try rising

[fluid heart]

trying is one thing

[ember summit]

U American or Canadian

[round cape]

American

[fluid heart]

we all tried pubg mobile, but no one plays it anymore except we know who

[ember summit]

Samsung phone?

[ember summit]

No i didn't

[round cape]

Yes

[fluid heart]

i will be playing destiny rising in my xiaomi

[round cape]

I didn't

[ember summit]

Dammit well lucky you
You can do jt

[fluid heart]

how have yall never tried pubg mobile before

[golden viper]

Wasn’t this game Payback? Or was that different?

[ember summit]

I'm not a child or racist or both

[round cape]

Closed beta? IDK I'm not signing up I'll just sign up when it's open

Payback was a destiny spinoff

[golden viper]

Wat was the tubing Luke Smith making?

[fluid heart]

are you implying racist people play pubg mobile 😭

[ember summit]

Oh I thought you said cod

[round cape]

Luke and Mark were on payback and it was a 3rd person action game supposedly

[umbral rune]

When is the beta?

[golden viper]

Wait so they had both payback and marathon in Development at same time?

[fluid heart]

nah i said pubg mobile, but the same applies to cod

[round cape]

And a few other games

[fluid heart]

marathon will be delayed

[golden viper]

wtf just make two games. They stretched themselves too thin

[fluid heart]

this will be the end of bungie

[round cape]

My release will be delayed thanks bungo

[golden viper]

Bungie thought they were as big as Capcom or some shit. They only have the staff for 2 games at most

So funny my god wat a shit show

[ember summit]

30th of may

[umbral rune]

Better not be region locked

[ember summit]

Destiny rising is region locked :3

-# ONCE AGAIN I CANT FUCKING PLAY IT

[umbral rune]

Who actually cares about d2 in 2025 though

[fluid heart]

marathon is already deep in serious shit. it will not be a smooth release

[golden viper]

Bungie had 1300 employees before the layoffs. But that is enough for like 3 games. Not 5 or whatever the number was

Wat a shitshow

[ember summit]

They had alot of other half baked things

[golden viper]

This is so dumb

[ember summit]

We know

[opaque panther]

Plagiarism The Game

[ember summit]

I saw a video saying that the only way they could survive is to declare bankruptcy

[tidal harness]

Bungie could actually be a case-study. How are they still functioning. They should have died a long time ago.

[golden viper]

What they should have done is

• make sure destiny is printing money
• make one or two single player games with a much more modest budget
• publish smaller sized indie games

That would have made sense

[ember summit]

Leadership dont care cus they know with their experience they can easily find another cushy job to waste

[opaque panther]

The higher ups at bungie will quit once it fucks up. Or the nearest quarter
Make the most amount of money they can

[nocturne oyster]

i would love tess eververse in marathon

[golden viper]

This makes me so angry

[tidal harness]

That is what they are waiting for

[opaque panther]

Sony wasted billions so bungie could be run into the ground

[golden viper]

Holy shit fuck their leadership

[opaque panther]

They should’ve taken control ages ago

[umbral rune]

After the quarterly bonus obvs

[ember summit]

Eat the ritch with smoky BBQ sauce and a good dry rub marinate over night

[golden viper]

Fuckers don’t care if marathon flops; they just want to Cash out and bounce. Despicable

[ember summit]

Bring out the beatings sticks

[umbral rune]

Rotten fruit instead

[ember summit]

Tie the fruit to the sticks

[tidal harness]

I guess they are trying to take Bobby Kotick's throne of who is the worst

[ember summit]

Best of both worlds

[boreal fog]

make the minecraft pig chase it

[ember summit]

Get the car collection

Gn everyone

[boreal fog]

gn man

[golden viper]

Y’know what the scary thing is

Sony probably has more live service games in the pipeline

Gambling addicts

[tidal harness]

They have the Horizon MMO

that's all. And Helldivers 2

[ember summit]

That sounds fun (that's the robot dinos right)

[golden viper]

wtf they are making Media Molecule make a live service wtf 😠

[tidal harness]

yeah.Aloy

[ember summit]

Can't believe they're making mole man a live service

[tidal harness]

Fairgame$ is also in limbo

[boreal fog]

should be making lbp4 instead

[tidal harness]

lbp is a very niche title. Not many ppl play it

[boreal fog]

i mean theres now a new generation who never even heard of the games maybe theyll learn to appreciate its beauty

[golden viper]

These are all the ones we know about https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/sonys-live-service-game-status-report-canceled-released-shut-down/2900-6143/#2

[round cape]

Not conducive to gooner skins. Canceled

[opaque panther]

We should’ve known when the boss was spending money on classic cars

[nocturne gate]

what cycle is chat on today?

[gleaming sundial]

I think the new person in charge of Sony gaming hates live service stuff. That's why they have cancelled a ton of them

[golden viper]

I hope so

[opaque panther]

Live service really hard to do

[boreal fog]

man who even thought gow live service would be good

[gleaming sundial]

turns out gamers are tired of companies releasing a half finished game then gradually completing it over two years

[opaque panther]

Anything new that isn’t familiar. Is treated poorly

[golden viper]

Blue point could have remastered bloodborne 😠

[opaque panther]

Marvel Rivals worked because its marvel

[gleaming sundial]

it's also fun

[opaque panther]

But it’s just Overwatch

[gleaming sundial]

no it isn't

[opaque panther]

It’s as generic as they come

[gleaming sundial]

there's no forced comps

[golden viper]

I really hope other companies cancel their live service plans after seeing Sony fuck up so bad

[gleaming sundial]

it's not really hyper balanced like overwatch

you can just go in and screw around with your buddies and have a good time.

[opaque panther]

Mental gymnastics is the most popular game 🤣

[golden viper]

how much money in total do we think that Sony has spent on this bullshit? Like 1 billion?

[opaque panther]

3 billion

[tidal harness]

EA did

[golden viper]

3 billion?

[opaque panther]

I think it was that

[tidal harness]

3.6 B

[golden viper]

Jfc

[opaque panther]

They made halo for fucks sake

[golden viper]

Oh I meant money spent on live service shit

[opaque panther]

They can print money so it’s worth it to them

[tidal harness]

No clue..must be in millions if not billions

[nocturne gate]

most of the devs that made halo are gone or got laid off

[gleaming sundial]

all of them

the bungie that made halo doesn't exist anymore.

[opaque panther]

Same with most historic development companies

[ember mountain]

Good morning, beautiful people

[opaque panther]

Rocksteady, BioWare, rockstar, Arkane, Battlefield

[golden viper]

Rip Arkane Austin 😢

[opaque panther]

Nostalgia is the only thing most gamers crave now

[restive minnow]

No

[opaque panther]

You get loads of grifters online telling you to hate stuff before it’s come out

[nocturne gate]

disagree

[restive minnow]

I want new exciting IPs

[gilded kayak]

incorrect, Playstations profit margins are not that great so they cancelled a lot of projects to help recover future costs.... they dont have alot of games releasing at all year on year and HEAVILY rely on 3rd party games especially ones with MTX in from current popular games... they wanted a cash cow themselves as they have no game that prints money for them.

[gleaming sundial]

lol, according to who? you?

[opaque panther]

The most popular charting games. Top steam numbers

I can use anecdotal evidence if you’d prefer

[restive minnow]

I want peer-reviewed academic papers actually

[opaque panther]

You’re saying the “good thing” but not the “true thing”

[gilded kayak]

when you see Playstations financials it paints the picture clearly. the media and Sony have focused on console sales / shipped as a measure of financial success... it means nothing if games are not selling as well

[restive minnow]

Playstation is a multi media device though. Blu ray player, streaming apps. You get in all

Thats why it sells

[gleaming sundial]

everyone's definition of nostalgic is different. nostalgic games for me are like halflife, quake 2, goldeneye 64, the original deus ex

you are conflating popular mainstream games with nostalgia, which isn't the same

[opaque panther]

I would look up what nostalgia means and then try again

You can play a game that reminds you of another. Or probably easier (for some) to understand is a sequel

[restive minnow]

They dont correlate which is his point

[gleaming sundial]

it means that you yearn for a time in the past that evokes happy memories

[restive minnow]

People want good games regardless of IP

[spiral egret]

"look it up" 😭

[nocturne gate]

only game i see in the top 10 sellers right now that's nostalgia is.. maybe balders gate? but i wouldn't count that

[gleaming sundial]

i don't think you know what it means

[gilded kayak]

many good games are bashed because a certain crowd say its not what they wanted....

[gleaming sundial]

goldeneye 64 evokes nostalgia for me because i got a n64 on one of my birthdays when i was a kid and it was a really good and happy time having sleepovers playing it with my friends

[nocturne gate]

what game in the steams top 10 is nostalga bait?

[gleaming sundial]

i dunno im playing eft right now i don't want to open steam

[restive minnow]

Split screen was peak. I cheated with Oddjob hehehe

[gleaming sundial]

just waiting for this raid to load

i think a better way to phrase dudes point instead of gamers looking for nostalgic games they are looking for familiar games.

folks with less time to play games, other stuff going on in their lives, they want something that is familiar and comforting instead of having to learn all new stuff which takes time and energy they may not have

[restive minnow]

Dads in chat

[gleaming sundial]

it's me, im the dad in chat

[restive minnow]

Rip

[gleaming sundial]

we all gotta grow up one day dude, im almost 39

career, two kids, ect. i still find time to game quite a bit but normally cause i wake up early

[restive minnow]

On the grind 24/7

[gleaming sundial]

fuck no lol i gotta get 8 hours of sleep a night or else i'm dead

[restive minnow]

Still has time to game

[nocturne gate]

respect the hustle

[opaque panther]

And you aren’t familiar with something in the past?🤦🏾‍♂️

Americans

[gleaming sundial]

lmao shut up dude. i literally explained why goldeneye 64 is nostalgic for me.

[opaque panther]

Sure kid

[golden viper]

I can imagine the money burning that is live service is making these successful console sales less meaningful. Like imagine how much more money they would have from psn / console revenue if so much of it wasn’t burnt in live service chase

[wintry isle]

They all want to be the next fortnite

Its all chasing trends

[restive minnow]

Are there alternatives

[gleaming sundial]

Lemme try to find the article I read about playstations new boss and all that. i'm sure revenue/margins are playing into it but he has a different outlook compared to the dude who decided to buy Bungie

[wintry isle]

The old sony boss was a moron

[golden viper]

Sony should have bought epic instead of doing any of this live service shit, instead of buying Bungie

[wintry isle]

They cant afford epic

[golden viper]

Well, yeah; prob too late for that

[wintry isle]

Also there would be regulator hurdles

[mental current]

How so? Like monopoly reasons?

[gilded kayak]

they are focused now on MAU's and not so much consoles sales / shipped.. the very thing people were laughing at with Xbox being focused on more players... more players meand more potential money

[wintry isle]

Yes

[nocturne gate]

good there's already way too much corporate consolidation

[wintry isle]

Microsoft barely got through to get activision blizz

And they had to comprise alot too

Like cod being on playstation for more years

[cold forge]

mostly cause sony didnt like it

[golden viper]

Entire generation wasted for Sony

Also the number of live service Sony games is apparently 17 🤦‍♂️

[wintry isle]

Alot got canned

[gilded kayak]

Mircosoft only wanted KING but was told NO you buy all of Activision

[wintry isle]

Bobby swindled Microsoft for sure

[golden viper]

17 games

17 GAMES

🤦‍♂️

[nocturne gate]

only one i know is helldivers whats the rest?

[wintry isle]

Most are big failures

[gilded kayak]

not really, Xbox most likely now are on par with Playstation when it comes to revenue for selling less consoles.... Software and services have always been the money maker which Playstation have only just realised

[gleaming sundial]

It doesn't make sense to focus on console sales because there's going to be a soft ceiling on how many you sell.

[wintry isle]

Microsoft dont care about selling consoles anymore

[gleaming sundial]

Aside from releasing new generational consoles, once playstation or xbox fans buy their newest console, that's it aside from converts or a small amount of new players entering the market

[wintry isle]

They have given up on that

[gleaming sundial]

like i own a ps5 and an xbox series x

[wintry isle]

There focused on gamepass and growing that

[gilded kayak]

exactly, Playstation ahve roughtly sold around 60 million consoles with the other 20 million shipped to warehouses.. Console sales have stagnated all around

[gleaming sundial]

why would i buy a console until something new comes out

[wintry isle]

The next console will be the last i think

[brittle slate]

I had the impression that people blamed MS for focusing only in MAU without giving any console and game sales data.
Sony does give console and game sales.

[rugged raft]

That’s like saying that’s gonna be the last TV lmao

[gleaming sundial]

I'm mainly a PC gamer but I enjoy consoles for exlusives and the ease of gaming as well.

[gilded kayak]

they do care as thats where they make most of their profit from.. selling thought other stores means giving cuts to other markets... if they didnt care there wouldnt be another console and handheld being made

[wintry isle]

Its mainly because of costs

Console production

Other factors

[gleaming sundial]

I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. They will sell about the same amount of the new xbox and the ps6 or whatever when those come out.

but it's not like they should expect to still be selling a ton of series x or ps5s years after launch

[gilded kayak]

its because Sony only has that stat to go off and nothing else... Xbox are more concered with games and services

[golden viper]

The age of digital distribution has made consoles less important source of revenue

[obsidian plover]

Wrong

[rugged raft]

Cope u guys don’t understand why consoles like PlayStation r just gonna keep going

[golden viper]

I think the future is portable hardware like the steam deck

In a generation we will have a stream deck like device with ps5 level hardware

And by that point; who needs big consoles in your living room

[wintry isle]

The future isnt consoles

[vestal zealot]

I hope not this generation has too much brain rot as it is

[gilded kayak]

i think you will find i am right

[wintry isle]

It just isnt

[reef parrot]

this generation of console is live service failure

[wintry isle]

Both sony and xbox are working on hand helds

[golden viper]

I can’t lie, I cannot play most games on non steam deck devices now

[vestal zealot]

I blame streamers

[wintry isle]

How so?

[golden viper]

It’s more convenient, why would I want to game at my desk

[reef parrot]

yep agree on that

[vestal zealot]

Because streaming became a major focus not gaming

[wintry isle]

Streaming is a small portion

[golden viper]

Brother what are you talking about: people play games still

[wintry isle]

Its not even worth talking about

[golden viper]

Yeah let’s not bother

[wintry isle]

Its so small

[golden viper]

Who cares about streamers

[nocturne gate]

depends on the streamer

[golden viper]

It’s like so small, most people play valorant or whatever: no one cares

[vestal zealot]

Every console went and created streaming features when streaming was originally a pc inclusive thing it was a waste of console resources and it greatly deprives gpu’s of resources that could be used to maintain good graphics and frame rate

[golden viper]

Brother, what are you talking about. The ps5 has barely any streaming capabilities

[balmy oriole]

I want to say ballooning graphical tech is what lead to bad frame rates

[golden viper]

Guys; it’s Pokimanes fault that my ps5 isn’t running CoD at 120fps

[vestal zealot]

The ps5 is always background recording which consumes a massive amount of resources

[golden viper]

You want someone to blame? Blame this

[nocturne gate]

damn she sneaking into ur gpu and thefting frames? wild

[balmy oriole]

You can turn off the recording on PS5 though

[wintry isle]

Then dont stream

It isnt a mandatory thing its entirely optional

[golden viper]

This is the root of the problem. Wasted resource on dumb bullshit like realistic grass textures it whatever the fuck

[wintry isle]

Yes

[vestal zealot]

You don’t have a choice ps5 has always on background recording Yu can’t cut off it’s literally in the agreement when Yu cut it on

[nocturne gate]

graphics optimisation is a lost art,

[balmy oriole]

It also lead to DLSS, we've reached a point where it's faster to guess a pixel's colour than to render it

[golden viper]

This isn’t worth discussing. Let’s move on, Valkyrae isn’t conspiring to keep our Frame rate down in our ps5

[vestal zealot]

Streamers have ruined gaming with bad opinions and massive following of morons who can’t think for themselves

[restive vector]

i think we all know whos fault it is and they start with the letter J

[wintry isle]

Ur argument are flip flopping

[tender stratus]

It’s great for photorealism.

Too bad Marathon and Destiny doesn’t care a sour that. Go play other things to melt your 5090 power cables

[tender stratus]

Holy shit PREACH

[wintry isle]

You complain about recordings and stream features and then the audiences

[nocturne gate]

huh?

[vestal zealot]

Then why is marathon crashing out??? If no one cares

[wintry isle]

Yes thats why there called influencers

[gleaming sundial]

Mr Beast presents real life Marathon. 50 fans go onto an island, 1 comes out a million dollars richer.

[nocturne gate]

what do you mean by this, i literaly dont understand

[vestal zealot]

Yes becuz the idea of making games stream worthy rather than good has become the worst inception in gaming

[golden viper]

Smh can’t believe Paul Tassi single handedly killed Marathon and Bungie

[gleaming sundial]

I saw the dumbest take about Marathon on reddit the other day. Some guy was like "Ever since the alpha wrapped up people are saying negative things about the gameplay ect". Almost like once people had the opportunity to play it they realized they didn't like it.

[tender stratus]

Marathon is failing cause of people that haven’t played the game already giving it the “it sucks cause no prox chat/etc” vibe and then the art theft.

Edit: is failing because we’re talking about a game that *hasnt launched yet *

[wintry isle]

Is that why alot of games have big playerbase and are not that popular on twitch?

Ur statement isnt backed up by data

[mellow ruin]

what day this week will they announce its cancelled?

[vestal zealot]

On top of horrible people of this generation and it’s negative ideology ruining everything is their bread and butter

[golden viper]

Brother the player count completely tanked after the first couple of days

[obsidian plover]

Streamers have ruined gaming with bad opinions and massive following of morons who can’t think for themselves

[tender stratus]

Brother, I HAVE A LIFE AND PLAY OTHER GAMES 🤣

[austere zodiac]

I played marathon and it was shit. No need to ask a streamers opinion.

[golden viper]

People played the game and didn’t like it. So the my stopped play it

[sly vessel]

It failed because it's boring, soulless AND guilty of theft

[tender stratus]

… how did it fail if it hasn’t launched yet? 🤣

[obsidian plover]

Yall are having worse takes than usual around here today.

[golden viper]

Seems like that guy is m in the chat rn 😂

[nocturne gate]

seems pretty standard imo

[tender stratus]

Cool. I played it and im stoked to taking everyone’s loot come launch day.

[austere zodiac]

Cry

[golden viper]

People play game

Players don’t like game

Player count drops dramatically

“Somehow this is pokimane’a fault”

[magic rose]

Deadass game

[gleaming sundial]

Yeah I mean I played the alpha and I'd agree. It needs a lot more time to flesh out the systems to be a successful launch especially in such a niche market, but I don't think they'll have the time to do that.

[tender stratus]

Wow. Look at that. People mindlessly saying this game is garbage cause someone else called it garbage

[gleaming sundial]

I played the game. I wasn't a fan of a lot of the very basic design decisions. That does not bode well for a good launch.

[tender stratus]

🤣🤣🤣 many people don’t get this game. Including you. Go away.

[nocturne gate]

i think they do but a delay would be better

[golden viper]

They can’t do much changes in a year. They can only change so much without burning more money

[gleaming sundial]

Right, they are stuck between a wall and a hard place.

[stone agate]

Im stroking my shyt rn

[tender stratus]

Then you don’t like Darwinian game of “I kill you, you lose everything”? Boohoo

[gleaming sundial]

Dude. I have 2500 hours in Tarkov

[robust cedar]

what engine they using

[gleaming sundial]

Extraction shooters and survival games are my primary games that I play.

[tender stratus]

And I have 5000 on Destiny, what’s your point? 🤣 you can still not get the game

[golden viper]

Honestly, they might as well rip the band-aid off, sort the art stuff, and make it free to play

[magic rose]

Starfield if it was multiplayer ahh

[golden viper]

And just put it behind them

[restive minnow]

why have you blocked me python

[vestal zealot]

the data is the player base valorant, fragounk, marvel rivals, all these games the same game people mindlessly love mediocrity and familiarity anything different is scary that’s why new game concepts fail if not pitched right and doesn’t stray far from the norm of wat players expect..

[mental current]

Tiger engine still right?

[sly vessel]

Make sure to wipe your chin when you're finished

[slender lintel]

If people are still playing COD DMZ to this day, people will play Marathon, it’s that simple, anyone who says otherwise has rocks for brains

[gleaming sundial]

You just said that I don't understand the concept of an extraction shooter, when it's the only games I really play.

[gleaming sundial]

DMZ had so much potential man. It was the perfect casual extraction shooter experience.

[tender stratus]

Haha like youre in a Bungie Discord server, what’s did you expect? Actual criticism? 🤣

[slender lintel]

Which is exactly what Marathon is going for

[tender stratus]

Marathon calls itself an extraction shooter, but I think it’s a bit more than that. It’s like survival royale.

[gleaming sundial]

But they didn't copy any of the systems that make DMZ a perfect casual extraction shooter experience.

[golden viper]

Marathon is not liek destiny at all. I’d prob want to hear extraction shooters fans feedback on a game like this

[stone agate]

I actually like the art style of marathon y’all trippin I think all they need todo is hire someone in the goon department and they’ll make millions

[mental current]

This is very "stop having fun" lol

[vestal zealot]

Exactly ppl are only following the negativity of ppl who just want everything to fall

[robust cedar]

i hope not tiger still has old technologies from halo, even though they update it you could tell its being held back

[gleaming sundial]

it did feel sort of like apex legends, destiny, and tarkov all shoehorned into a poorly thought out and executed game.

[hollow verge]

Is it still possible to sign up for test play ?

[tender stratus]

Marathon is not like Destiny, and yet I killed it going solo mic-less… so what does that say? Did I get the game? Maybe.

[slender lintel]

This is dumb, they literally copied the mission system and the vault, which is the main core of what made DMZ

[tender stratus]

It’s only poorly thought out because you didn’t get it. And it’s ok

[nocturne gate]

they did a major engine overhaul in beyond light, its part of the reason so much content got sunset in d2

[gleaming sundial]

What made DMZ casual friendly was the ability to use your own loadout weapons on a timer.

[nocturne gate]

no the alphas over and there's no news on the next one yet

[golden viper]

Bro get outta here with this toxic positivity stuff. And this conspiratorial “the streamers did it” shit. The game wasn’t liked by people who played it. It’s that simple Jfc

[gleaming sundial]

Alright sure man. Keep telling me that I don't understand extraction shooters or battle royales.

[mental current]

I don't think tech problems are the ones they have with marathon. The game functioned quite well. Design decisions are what's gonna cause problems for Marathon

[misty trail]

The art stealing didnt help but sometimes games get thrown away just because some people said they are bad and their follower say the same. Nowadays i feel like every new game that launches its shit just because it does not bring the nostalgia of playing the first games.

[stone agate]

Damn I forgot cheaters are a thing that’ll be the games downfall if not the devs

[tender stratus]

I wish I could show my Alpha vault. Going solo micless and getting all the loot in the world was amazing

[golden viper]

No, man. The player count dropped cuz the people who played it didn’t enjoy it

[vestal zealot]

I knew a lot of people who like it wasn’t super impressed but they liked it so wtf are Yu saying!?

[nocturne gate]

no you don't understand, the streamers are running a secret cabal to kill games people like - 🤡

[slender lintel]

That’s a small part of it, a bigger part of the core loop was making that consistent and the upgrade system

[tender stratus]

We also had chess puzzle in Destiny 2, remember that?

[restive minnow]

I am only playing this game because of its art style. It could have been a walking sim and I'd play it. Is that vain?

[mental current]

Eh, it's not a vast conspiracy but I think "this game sucks" videos get lots of views

[robust cedar]

there were gameplay and fps problems

[vestal zealot]

I wouldn’t put it past them the red Derick they put out all sound the same like drones reading a prompt

[mental current]

I didn't feel those at all. Game ran like a dream when i played

[nocturne gate]

now that's a much more reasonable take. 🤝 i can get behind that

[golden viper]

Damn you Paul Tassi for killing our beloved game

It’s all your fault

[restive minnow]

why is python so grumpy. been at it for days

[tender stratus]

I played it and enjoyed it, you are repeating the same garbage take again 💀

[wooden fjord]

Yeah it's just a mix of clickbait drama farming and miserable hater culture being massive

[misty trail]

I understand that but everything has a solution. If everybody sais its bad, the people that are investing money will want to launch it early and get all the money they can before the game dies if it doesnt die on launch

[nova parcel]

Marathon dead on arrival and yall cant tell me any different!

[nocturne gate]

you played in the alpha?

[tender stratus]

He’s killed Anthem and Destiny before that too haha

[tender stratus]

Yes. The full two weeks too

[robust cedar]

its using a new version of tiger apparently

[tender stratus]

Such an original take. Wow. A+

[wooden fjord]

Well you clearly didn't play the alpha, so according to who? Everyone I know said the game ran perfectly even on older setups

[nocturne gate]

noice, how was the gun feel? movement looked good

[vestal zealot]

Too massive zombie commentary every comment section

[wooden fjord]

Gunplay was amazing, I miss playing so much

[tender stratus]

Gunplay and movement are very Halo reminiscent, Twin Tap BR is essentially the two burst battle rifle from Halo for example

[magic rose]

The correct take

[tender stratus]

Sounds like y’all didn’t play the alpha and it shows 😂

[golden viper]

It’s okay to enjoy a game, and still admit that it probably won’t perform well

Like I loved Gundam evolution, but I still wasn’t lying to myself about its viability

[nocturne gate]

as long as gunplay is good i'm more than happy to sink some hours into it. i'm not great at pvp but that art is irresistible

[misty trail]

Marathon really needs support from its players and the bad thing its that some game decisions are not from devs themselves but from investors

[wooden fjord]

There's going to be a good mix of PvP and PvE content from what it sounds like, which is good imo especially for people not super into PvP. Obviously it will still be a PvP-oriented game though

[tender stratus]

Bro, Destiny has been put to die at least four times now and it’s still going.

But sure. Keep coping 😂

[vestal zealot]

I may cracc on the concept but I don’t like marathon because I wanted a campaign game with an extraction shooter on the side… but i can’t say it won’t have a fan base

[gleaming sundial]

I didn't hate marathon. Some of the design decisions are bad. Only allowing one active quest at a time is unnecessarily frustrating. The gunplay was fine. The weapon modding system not allowing you to remove mods to put on other guns once slotted is baffling.

it's just not fun enough for me to play it over a number of other games i enjoy right now

[wooden fjord]

These are things that they are changing so why even bother bringing it up

[gleaming sundial]

Prove it

[wooden fjord]

What

[gleaming sundial]

They have said nothing publically about making those specific changes.

[nocturne gate]

i dunno if it wont perform well, rn sentiment is real negative but most of the peopl who actually played are positive and a solid chunk of the negativeity is being driven by drama/slop content. lotta community noise makes it hard to tell if it'll really flop or be just fine

[mental current]

Gunplay is great, as expected from Bungie. The vibe is cool too. Very eerie and I liked that. What worried me is that they keep acting like the rest of the game isn't built yet. I figured the alpha was a taste of the cake they are baking when instead it sounds like it was a fairly large slice

[wooden fjord]

Source: the developers have stated multiple times on dev blogs and streams that they're making these changes????

[gleaming sundial]

The last live stream they did not give any specifics on how they are going to make any changes. just "were looking into it"

[wooden fjord]

They 100% have said something publicly

[golden viper]

Why are you so sure that marathon will succeed? Also drop the “haha coping 😂” bullshit. We’re talking about video games, grow up

[tender stratus]

It’s making you decide for sure if you want to keep the gun with the mods or not. It’s a way of making you have two different mod combinations on the same gun platform in the vault. Compared to other games, sure, kinda iffy, but not deal breaking

[gleaming sundial]

find the video or article please.

[vestal zealot]

It’s gonna sell just not at the numbers they perceive,

[tidal harness]

They are brainstorming on it

[nocturne gate]

yea that is concerning, its why i think a delay would be good. let it cook a lil longer

[valid dome]

Really all it boils down to for me too. Had fun shooting bots and had fun shooting players, and that's all a game like this needs to be better than at least half of its direct competition lol

[gleaming sundial]

"they have a good baseline and we'll look into it in the future" is all ive heard

[tender stratus]

“We are talking about video games, grow up” is so quotable omg 🤣 🤣 🤣

[wooden fjord]

I can't tell if disingenuous troll or confidently incorrect

[vestal zealot]

It needs a campaign point blank period

[gleaming sundial]

yeah but other extraction shooters let you pull mods off guns you find off other players to use on your own weapons you have been modding.

[nocturne gate]

if its bungie execs then yea those brainlets are wildy out of touch

[nocturne gate]

naw i disagree

[valid dome]

I think it's pretty likely the game will do well for itself, not blow up the world but still gonna have its playerbase.

[mental current]

Yeah that would be cool. I'll take awesome story telling during runs tho too

[tender stratus]

This isn’t another extraction shooter that you know of. That’s the point that Marathon is trying to make.

[gleaming sundial]

no im being serious. if they have said they are going to allow more than 1 active quest at a time and make the modding system less restrictive i'd like to know so I can show my friends.

[wooden fjord]

If this weird hateboner bandwagon would go away then the game is going to be fine

[tender stratus]

… it does? That’s why there’s contracts? lol

[golden viper]

Hmm I think if they delayed it and made enough changes in that amount of time, then maybe

[valid dome]

Games like Dark and Darker are literally shambling, half functional, stiff feeling piles of shit and still thrive (for the most part). I'm not too stressed for Marathon :P

[gleaming sundial]

They are trying to make a casual extraction shooter but their design decisions are not casual friendly.

[golden viper]

They just need to delay this shit for like a year

[gleaming sundial]

they can't. it'll launch against gta6

[golden viper]

And find some way to hook non extraction players

[obsidian plover]

Streamers have ruined gaming with bad opinions and massive following of morons who can’t think for themselves

[nocturne gate]

nah that's sticking to it till release,

[tawdry olive]

a fridge is just an advanced box.

[gleaming sundial]

it's either like 18 month delay or launch now.

[vestal zealot]

It does be us it has to pull from marathons history in order to draw players in new players not gonna settle for new ip too many better games. But you add a campaign you can pull in the old fans

[tender stratus]

I think if more people shut the fuck up about talking about things that they really haven’t played or known… this all would be a better place. But that’s just me.

[valid dome]

A year is a bit much i think, but delaying out till like early spring would be smart I think. Always good to get more time in the oven

[golden viper]

Couldn’t they launch it in a different time of the year?

[wooden fjord]

Literally just go watch the dev updates, or choose to believe an active member of the community that doesn't bullshit people

[misty trail]

I dont think its that much of a finished game, i havent played the closed alpha but im sure that that alpha had a lot of things that will improve or change with time but instead of helping the game grow a lot of people that didnt even play it are still throwing shit at the game

[nocturne gate]

what about a freezer?

[golden viper]

Grow up dude

[tawdry olive]

even more advanced

[nocturne gate]

woah...

[mental current]

I'm stressed for Marathon because I think extraction shooters are too small a niche to be the financial savior the studio needs it to be. I'm more worried that Destiny is gonna die because of it.

[gleaming sundial]

i have watched the dev updates man. I played the alpha. I wanted to like the game and I have valid criticisms of the game that i'd like to see addressed. i have not seen what you are talking about. I'm asking you to help me understand the game better because if they fix that i'd be happy about it and willing to try it out again when the beta launches.

[golden viper]

I would take the 18 month delay

[tender stratus]

But that’s the thing? Who said it’s casual? Them? Us? Whoever said casual lied. This is a Darwinian, dog eat dog world in Tau Ceti IV and im all here for it

[vestal zealot]

Not enough we live in a visual age now reading is out for this generation tik tok has taught them pictures need to move

[wooden fjord]

They are changing it so that players can remove mods from weapons but still want to add "friction" so they discussed needing some sort of consumable item or only being able to do it out of raid

[tawdry olive]

this is my thinking as well

[gleaming sundial]

Bungie said it was casual sop

[tender stratus]

Oh, so unga bunga me no understand, got it

[gleaming sundial]

Doing it out of raid would be just fine.

[tender stratus]

Yeah, they fucking lied for sure haha 😂

[gleaming sundial]

Tarkov allows you to swap some weapon items in raid but others have to be out of raid and have a workbench crafted.

[mental current]

The game functioned and hitting the buttons was fun, you can say that.

That's all stuff they had built in Destiny tho. They didn't need to rebuild it, so it seems weird to have the devs hang their hat on it and be like "see how good our game is?"

[nocturne gate]

destiny isn't going to die if marathon gets canned, but it could if edge of fate is as mid as it look AND marathon gets canned 😨

[vestal zealot]

Feel how Yu feel your one person and their are a billion people majority of people who enjoy reading aren’t in the high percentage

[gleaming sundial]

like you can swap out foregrips and scopes but not barrels or handgrips

[tawdry olive]

ttk is also a bit too swift.

[valid dome]

Thing is I don't really buy into the vague rumors of bungie needing a finanical savior. The game needs to make money definitely, and Destiny 2 has slowly declined in its numbers over the years, but Destiny 2 is still a huge game and rakes in the cash.

[wooden fjord]

Destiny Rising will save us all

[tender stratus]

But Destiny has a big ass year ahead of it… it’s not like Bungie is leaving Destiny behind cause of Marathon you know?

[tawdry olive]

destiny died with cayde

[vestal zealot]

They already did when they shifted majority to marathon

[meager saddle]

arc raiders to the rescue

[valid dome]

Bungie is not one financial mistake away from exploding from the inside, Destiny is gonna be cruising alongside this and people will continue to be critical of it but also people are going to be paying hand over fist for it as they have for years

[gleaming sundial]

Compared to Tarkov or Hunt: Showdown it is kinda casual. You can rez your teamates in raid. It's just other design decisions are adding uncessary friction for casual players but the game isn't deep enough to bring in Tarkov players.

[tender stratus]

So Forsaken or TFS? Just asking lol

[tawdry olive]

tfs

[nocturne gate]

i mean.. it sounds like they kinda did arfter the final shape. it'd explain echos and revenant being lackluster

[tender stratus]

So is it casual or nah? Make up your mind lol

[valid dome]

Please cite the source that told you that Destiny 2's team was moved to Marathon, I've heard soemone else say that here but they could not actually cite any evidence that Destiny 2 was on limp mode

[tawdry olive]

forsaken is peak

[vestal zealot]

Destiny died with sunsetting

[mental current]

Yeah I know, but if Marathon doesn't hit I think it AT LEAST means more layoffs of devs. Which is too bad. I think the problem is higher up and of the "classic car buying" variety.

[gleaming sundial]

read my whole sentence lol. it's casual, yes, but balanced really weird

[brittle slate]

I only need news about when we will play the game (sorry I was not in the alpha)... I really don't care about outsiders "news".
The waiting is crazy.

[tawdry olive]

i miss backpage

[vestal zealot]

It was in the workshop video for beyond light when they first introduced marathon

[tender stratus]

They didn’t. It’s a garbage ass take that streamers like Luckyy10p and Aztecross like to push. They’re fucking stupid tho

[valid dome]

Yeah thats the big concern. The company as an entity will be fine but layoffs will be killer

[golden viper]

Destiny prob isn’t gonna die any time soon

[misty trail]

I think we cant judge the whole game just by playing the alpha.

[vestal zealot]

Yes Yu can

[misty trail]

k mb

[tender stratus]

Which will happen. The Final Shape was a slam dunk success by all accounts and they still laid people off.

[misty trail]

[tawdry olive]

who up playing star citizen rn

[vestal zealot]

It wasn’t

[valid dome]

No, but it is what they chose to present. anyone with experience in gamedev/even just playing playtests over the years fully knows this was not the latest build they have in-house, but also it's all we have to work off of

[golden viper]

They laid them off due to greed

[mental current]

Yeah... that sucks for people working there. Why try hard when you lose your job anyway???

[valid dome]

Cite sources please!

[golden viper]

No one should work for Bungie

[valid dome]

out here space trucking in my freelancer max, enjoying the verse

[tender stratus]

We can’t judge the game by playing an early version of the game? Fair take. In that notion, don’t judge a game by watching snippets on YouTube of a guy saying it sucks cause they don’t get it and die all the time

[vestal zealot]

Cite sources the revenue alone didn’t generate half the cost to make it,

[tawdry olive]

u real for that

[valid dome]

source on that?

[nocturne gate]

ay, dont lump aztecross in with that slop gremlin.
it might just be bungie sswang full force and missed two seasons in a row but knowing that a large part of the pvp and dev team were split off for marathon arfter they were done with lightfall would leave a talent hole for the enxt few seasons, then couple with that the two rounds of layoffs and it seems pretty reasonable that d2 was de prioritized internally for a bit while they got their ducks in a row

[tawdry olive]

waiting on my ironclad tbh

[ocean crypt]

You are a programing language

[vestal zealot]

Their revenue stream

[golden viper]

And?

You are a meme

[valid dome]

Love me some Drake ships, Ironclad is gorgeous I'll be glad to make a friend with one someday

[tender stratus]

I just hate Destinytubers that say “this game sucks!” And come launch day they buy it anyways cause it says Bungie on it.

Hypocrisy in a nutshell.

[ocean crypt]

You working for everyone

[tawdry olive]

ill send fren request, maybe we play someday

[golden viper]

Bloodborne never gonna get ported sucka 😈

[vestal zealot]

They gotta keep up their revenue

[nocturne gate]

a reasonable thing to hate, but they arn't all that. (lucky is tho you nailed him 100%)

[valid dome]

thats gaming fandomtubers in general. The moment someone brings up they get their info from X youtuber or Y youtuber, my brain blocks them out cause its just lowest common denominator content

[gleaming sundial]

My biggest concern is that the way they have answered public questions regarding the alpha and it's reception don't sound like a game ready to launch in 4 months.

[golden viper]

How did you foresee the future of what each and every one of these YouTubers will do? Can I have your crystal ball?

[tender stratus]

This take I can get behind

[vestal zealot]

It’s not

[golden viper]

They haven’t announced any delays

[vestal zealot]

They minds we’ll make this a destiny expansion

[valid dome]

Can you post a link to this stream? Having a hard time finding anything about this from bungie and not clickbait "DESTINY 2 IS IN SERIOUS TROUBLE!!!!"

[tender stratus]

Because Aztecross did it with Anthem, Luckyy did it with Destiny 2: Lightfall.

It’s a recognizable pattern over the years. Not having the attention span of a goldfish makes you look at this without a crystal ball 🤣

[vestal zealot]

I can’t think for people I have to think for myself

[valid dome]

I'm asking for you to provide a source to back up the claims you're making lol

[golden viper]

Bro no one cares. If you think streamers can tank a game; you are terminally online

[valid dome]

If you can't actually cite what you're claiming, why claim it at all?

[nocturne gate]

streamers can't tank a game all on their own. they can hurt its reception tho right?

[tender stratus]

I am terminally online?

I’m not the one saying Marathon is DOA on the Marathon Discord Server 😂🤣

[vestal zealot]

If you can’t use your brain I can’t help you your looking for me to give you some article and I’m not going off someone’s article I’m looking at the revenue and I’m looking at production cost plz learn to think

[gleaming sundial]

I think one of the biggest misses so far from the devs and could take some heat off the stolen art issue while they go through and scrub the game is to release the results of the in-game survey everyone took at the end of the alpha and discuss the results and give us specifics on how they plan to change the game based around that feedback.

i spent 20 minutes doing a 15 page feedback survey adn they haven't said anything about it

[nocturne gate]

doing a section where they read out feedback and then adress it from the surveys would be pretty great.

[tender stratus]

Shadow projection. Awesome. 😂

[valid dome]

You said that Bungie reported their revenue losses for The Final Shape and claimed it didn't make half of its production budget back. I've just spent the past 10~ minutes looking for this article or video you claimed exists, and it doesnt seem to. Now you say 'uhm I swear it exists and you're just lazy'? Lol

Like, its okay to say 'i just made it up' man, its the internet no one's gonna hate ya lol

[vestal zealot]

That’s nothing of wat I said your allowed your own interpretation

[tender stratus]

except me. I’m a hater for liking the alpha build apparently lol

[nocturne gate]

if someones straight up makeing stuff up i might hate em a bit

[tender stratus]

Time to go to summer camp, young man

[valid dome]

#🗣marathon-general-chat message ??? like bro, your messages dont vanish like snapchat after you post them

[nocturne gate]

smh can't even have a civil discussion,

[valid dome]

for real, sometimes forget you're likely just arguing with teenagers

[vestal zealot]

I said their revenue stream you know wat a revenue stream is that’s their income sales your not using your brain

[tender stratus]

You first. You’re still here, chronically online like I am lol

[valid dome]

You said that their income did not make back half of the production cost, and said that you had the numbers to back that up. Numbers that no one else can seem to find, only you?

Dad must work at bungie or something, idk man just kinda seems like yer gabbin

[nocturne gate]

my goodness there's a whole circus

[gleaming sundial]

Man - I typed out my valid criticisms of the game, which are my own opinions, and you were like well you just don't understand the darwinian dog eat dog vision of an extraction shooter. I replied with I have 2500 hours in Tarkov so yeah I totally get that part and you were just like oh well this is different you still don't understand.

[vestal zealot]

You never looked sir company revenue is public access information if you had you could easily see their sales by month date and year plz stop tryna gaslight on some slow ppl shht just say you didn’t look

[valid dome]

bro is out here looking at growjo thinking that it's actually the company numbers and not ai generated estimate data. it's over

[nocturne gate]

my post wasn't funny enough to get clowned, rip

[vestal zealot]

And your proving my point of ignorant masses

[valid dome]

keep on keeping on grieva, next time probably easier to say 'i actually don't have anything to back this up and i'm just talking out of my ass', saves some time lol

[still oasis]

wait, there's stolen art in marathon??

[nocturne gate]

whats marathon?

[vestal zealot]

Or you could be an adult and do your own work since Yu want the answer

[valid dome]

Would you like to get marriedthon?

[still oasis]

game that never came out in 2025

[umbral rune]

Chat who should I play in valorant

[nocturne gate]

Glitch

[valid dome]

you should uninstall and download star citizen

[polar flame]

no no and no

[polar flame]

tf is that xd

[robust bridge]

Learn Yoru and you will be good.

[nocturne gate]

pryamid scheme

[umbral rune]

Dude I'm iron give me an easier character

[vestal zealot]

Darkseid he has thors hammer

[robust bridge]

How are you iron?

[valid dome]

Its only a pyramid scheme Because I will be buried in a tomb with all of my ships

[umbral rune]

I'm downright awful

[robust bridge]

I can tell.

I played it and got Immortal in a few weeks.. but I have played CS for over 30k hours.

[vestal zealot]

Wats your call sign in star citizen?

[carmine knot]

🤣🤣

[robust bridge]

I bought it, forgot about it because my PC couldn't handle it but now I have super PC so I might play it.

[umbral rune]

Isn't star citizen the game that tried to make people pay for extra movement on ships or something?

[vestal zealot]

Da fuq?

[vestal zealot]

Hell no

[umbral rune]

Might be a different game I'm not so sure

[vestal zealot]

It’s the game marathon shoulda copied

[umbral rune]

Both games are terrible tbf

[tepid lance]

Yes

[vestal zealot]

Lies but ok

[nocturne gate]

star citizen is a scam that went long enough they actualy had to start makeing a game

[vestal zealot]

It’s been the best scam ever and fun as hell

[umbral rune]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

[valid dome]

Blades are slight mods to ships handling, but never was paid for exclusively. WAS paid for early access like 2 weeks ago which was what the shitstorm was about lol

[nocturne gate]

really? like genuinely?

[vestal zealot]

Yes

[uneven apex]

meeo

[umbral rune]

Scam and fun in the same sentence 🥀🥀🥀

[valid dome]

Calling star citizen a 'scam' when its arguably a more enjoyable space sandbox than a full product like Elite Dangerous kinda falls flat

[nocturne gate]

i aint one to rain you your parade. glad you had fun with it

[vestal zealot]

I truly enjoy Star citizen every gameplay session

[green plover]

So is marathon coming or is it canceled

[valid dome]

I tried to like Elite a lot but it feels so cheap in comparison. SC has a long way to go but I've had a good couple hundred hours of enjoyment so far

[boreal plaza]

Probably delayed - Sony cancelled all marketing plans

[green plover]

I really wanted to play it man

[wicked crater]

So is Marathon joever

[umbral rune]

London servers with French players 😭

[vestal zealot]

If marathon wanted to be great it would beat sc

[valid dome]

Won't be canceled dont worry about that, maybe delay (would be smart)

[nocturne gate]

hey elite dangerious is bad too, only games that have ever scratched that itch for me were x2 and freelancer and since then nothings quite hit right

[umbral rune]

Someone dodged 🙏🙏🙏

[valid dome]

Just picked up a boxed copy of Freelancer from my local friendly retro store, loved that game as a youngin thats the aim for Star Citizen but not quite there yet lol

[vestal zealot]

Have you tried star citizen?

[nocturne gate]

if (and i'm doubtfull) they ever get close then i might give it a try but from the outside most of what i see is $20,000 ships and tech demos uni students would be ashamed of mixed with some really competent art

[nocturne gate]

nope

[vestal zealot]

My guy this is fleet week and star citizen is free to play give it a try

[neat pecan]

Any Body Type As with Voice B in the chat?

[icy trellis]

I swear you're working with them with how hard you're pitching the game

[topaz comet]

just finished a marathon

[nocturne gate]

naw, still looks unappealing to me. plus got portfolio to work on

[vestal zealot]

I pitch good games to people I never recommend a shht 1

[vestal zealot]

Look man it’s ok to be afraid all those ships the player customization the real like space features and planetary features combined with good gameplay

[valid dome]

I just finished a maraCON(vention)

[nocturne gate]

i played EvE star citizen aint intimidateing, just looks bad to me , plus that monitizesation is scummy

[crystal laurel]

I played galaga

[nocturne gate]

damn all the way through?

[vestal zealot]

Sir I’ve dropped at least $500+ on warframe , $400 on star citizen and I don’t feel it’s not worth it… hell borderlands comes out I’m dropping $200 for the collectors edition when it’s worth it it’s worth it star citizen is worth 60$ on a ship to play

[dreamy crow]

galaga on deez?

[nocturne gate]

hey i'm glad you feel like you got your moneys worth. the way star citizen monitizes feels slimy to me, i aint interested. like even with warframe its reaonsble to earn everyhing ingame through market tradeing

[obsidian plover]

There’s hardly original opinions anymore

That’s why.

[tardy palm]

Hii im new

[obsidian plover]

People allow them to be influenced too easily.

[obsidian plover]

Hi I’m new! I’m not new.

[nocturne gate]

arfter hearing you say this i gotta agree with yah

[obsidian plover]

Real

[vestal zealot]

You can do the same thing on star citizen nobody has to buy any of the ssuper ships I started off with 40$ dollar package I just wanted another ship and didn’t wanna do it in game because. I had an life time insurance token

[red jackal]

its more "horribly managed and developed" rather than a scam since scam would give you starfield

[topaz comet]

lol

[next verge]

Starfield is an actually finished, released game with all its content available however slim picking the content is

[fleet thicket]

Game is SO cooked. The promotion is all gone now

[nocturne gate]

and how bad the content is

[dreamy crow]

still trash sadly

[next verge]

Star Citizens gameplay is a shop you can level up by buying more shit

[next verge]

Oh yeah no, not saying Starfield is good. But it's a damnside better than Store Citizen

[dreamy crow]

star citizen gameplay is an unfinished prototype

[fleet thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-feet-kicking-smiling-funny-gif-14137544953145905694

[next verge]

Which is asking you to but multi thousand dollar space ships for PNGs of them

Buy*

[topaz comet]

star citizen is my favorite tech demo

[sage topaz]

Starfield can be good. The modding community needs more love as that is the only thing keeping a lot of us playing. The Star Wars Genesis modlist is pretty good.

[tardy palm]

Anyone have roblox?

[nocturne gate]

bethesda are actively sabotaging modding efforts in their more recent games

[dreamy crow]

i genuinely think the people involved learned as they went to make it and still lack knowledge. star citizen might be a huge scam or a huge failure if it crashes down on them. unless they keep running the scheme and society is gone. no will remember it generated funds

i was hoping theyd make star engine public

[next verge]

I don't think Star Citizen will ever legitimately release.

[dreamy crow]

star engine being a lumberyard fork of cryengine ofcourse reeks of spaghetti codes

[next verge]

They've made a marketplace which you can level up by spending thousands of dollars, to be able to spend more thousands of dollars on it.

[dreamy crow]

but it needs community to help them fund and better the engine and their pipeline cause its insane how long its going for. for that amount of money

[sage topaz]

I only want SQ42 from Star Citizen. I doubt it actually comes out next year.

[red jackal]

free bird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQNRKX8GwPo

[dreamy crow]

its a shame sadly everything so far looks too good to be true but we might get gta 6 before sc

[nocturne gate]

distaste aside , SC has employed some absolutely fantastic artists their decal optimised workflow for automotive/starship modeling is awesome

[cyan vapor]

hmm this server seems smaller channel wise than before

[dreamy crow]

i agree i like their style too its how i do things in blender lol

i cooked so many decals on decalmachine sc did help me refine my ideas. those devs/artist show love in their work

[sage topaz]

SC has great art direction. Server stability is terrible though. I just want to run cargo ffs. Space trucking in my Argo Raft.

[nocturne gate]

i really need to learn decal machine, i'm still doing em manual style when i need em

[cyan vapor]

so why did the channels get cut down or is my memory just bad

[nocturne gate]

what channels are missing?

[cyan vapor]

I dont remember there being only 4 channels to talk in

could be just my memory though

[dreamy crow]

its pretty easy as long as your satisfied with your modelling. paralax techniques are pretty cool. i usually try go for stuff that dont need too much dimension for the viewer but good sense of depth. panneling air vents screws etc

[next verge]

They started closing the alpha test channels, if you got in

[nocturne gate]

yeye, its what i'm useing em for atm, i'd post but no image perms, i'm mostly interested in the decal libary features and trim stip tools. just gotta find the time to sit down and actualy play around with it. work mostly in VR for work so no parallax most of the time so yah gotta be reeeal careful about where and how you sell depth with non geo

[dreamy crow]

well im willing to help/guide sometime if in good time 🫡

working in vr is awesome i love shaping mechs/mechas in gravity sketch

[nocturne gate]

ah my bad on phraseing, i make stuff for VR not in it or at least not in it most of the time. and appreciate it ill throw yah a dm if i can scrape the free time to do some proper learnin