🗣marathon-general-chat

[deep raft]

i was assuming he ment you can only have on or the other, ill take bad chips with good guac if thats the question

[west portal]

Tru I guess, but that does not allow you to say that bungie is not at fault of stealing

[nocturne gate]

//ASSERT

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laugh at this user

[west portal]

:3

[deep raft]

bungie at fault and apologized. Hope you are not at fault and apologize and people still shit talk you for weeks

[worthy swan]

viral marketing campaign that isn’t actually serious but you’re doing a great job spreading the word!

[lime jewel]

AI isn't going to replace as much as people think

[limpid horizon]

Put clown emojis all you want

"I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes"

[west portal]

But the potential is huge, massive

[worthy swan]

Artisan thanks you for your service

[deep raft]

^^

[nocturne gate]

Companies aint people, instutions deserve ire for malpractrice

[west portal]

I want ai as my house maiden cleaning it :>

[deep raft]

almost like they aren't made up of people 🤔

[magic rose]

roomba

[nocturne gate]

based

[west portal]

Ye, I'll put in the normal roomba to torture it :3

[shy flame]

Let's phrase this in a more relatable way. You're a big roblox fan clearly, right?

If Roblox's officially sold-for-Robux items were contracted to be made entirely by AI, flooding the market of independent artists and item creators, then you would by-and-large only see those AI items. This shuts out the creators who made Roblox the profit machine it is today and puts the cash flow entirely into their own hands.

That would be harmful to Roblox's sense of community and connection that makes it so enjoyable, right?

[marble grail]

thing looks like an antlion grub

[west portal]

I don't care, thanks I get the issue

[limpid horizon]

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From their website that isnt serious?

[deep patio]

Anyone smart enough to develop one of these?

[pallid shoal]

a gif?

[deep patio]

The weaveworm

[limpid horizon]

People laugh until detroit become human exists one day

[worthy swan]

outbound sales is not happening at many companies because nobody wants to do cold emails all day

[west portal]

Yay I'm gonna be enslaved

[magic rose]

waow

[shy flame]

Uh uh uh guys im upset in discord and I don't like when people explain things to me uh uh uh MARATHON BAD UMU

[limpid horizon]

Still happens, still jobs that have been taken away from people.

[west portal]

I don't say Marathon is a bad game?? pookie

[nocturne gate]

ur a gay furry?

i dunno

[west portal]

You seem pretty gay furry dont care to me wrong mention

[magic rose]

lmao wait who is defending the bungie plagiarism

[limpid horizon]

Highly against it but some people are sociopaths

AI levels of human feelings

[nocturne gate]

literally noone afaik

[west portal]

I clearly think some people defend bungie's plagiarism by comparing that to AI taking jobs cuz embark uses it

[shy flame]

I fucking love working in sales, cold calls and cold emails with human voices behind them obviously appeal more to whoever actually bothers to answer. Boomers hear AI and can recognize its a scam way more quickly unless they're suffering an ailment. In fact, Id argue using AI for this purpose displays intent to defraud

[pallid shoal]

not quite, the genetic engineering isn't there but otherwise we just need to get them to produce a range of organic materials and accept chemically coded instructions like a modern automatic loom, so i guess the genetic engineering would mean spawning them with flexible instructions in their dna so they'd just unfold proteins to determine what material in what pattern

[magic rose]

???

[worthy swan]

I do too. But cold calling and emailing sucks

[magic rose]

ain’t no way

[west portal]

That clearly looks like it, that's the problem TwT

[worthy swan]

you don’t need a whole paragraph for everything holy yap

[regal scroll]

You’re a sociopath it seems

[limpid horizon]

Just because a job sucks doesnt mean you need to let AI remove your source of income if you happen to be working there

[unborn olive]

both are bad practices and developers should be ashamed of it, have you ever thought about such route

[west portal]

I love how people write a whole essays, for me to answer to it with 3 words

[nocturne gate]

explain...

[shy flame]

No one is defending plagiarism, you nitwit. Im stating that plagiarism that has been rectified, removed, and the artist has been compensated is not the same situation as a studio stealing voice work for their 2 major projects.

[limpid horizon]

More than happy to discuss that but I advocate for anti AI unlike some people

[west portal]

Tru, I get that point. Bot some make look like it

[nova moss]

oatchi

[shy flame]

Also "paragraph" and its less than 6 sentences, holy first grader

[regal scroll]

Classic Luddite

[worthy swan]

it’s not just that, but also, the economics of paying an SDR just for that job doesn’t really work anymore now that companies aren’t getting the types of investments they were over the last few years

[west portal]

Bri ish, tehe~

[magic rose]

i mean we don’t know if they got compensated yet (took the last bungie plagiarism case over a year) but i digress

[shy flame]

Im from kentucky bro I just had a cheeseburger and Marshmallow iced coffee for breakfast

[nocturne gate]

classic bait

[deep raft]

char you are arguing with baiters

[limpid horizon]

Technology is amazing, using AI to create movies and destroy industries and jobs however is a different reason to dislike even HATE it but you choose take the path of least resistance to prove something

[west portal]

Aw, thanks for making that clear. Now the day is sadge

[magic rose]

kentucky :/

[deep raft]

starri :/

[nocturne gate]

let her have her fun

[west portal]

Now I wanna icecream

[magic rose]

Whitlove :/

[west portal]

Whitlove <3

[deep patio]

Fair enough. I wonder if there's an engineer out there with enough resources and madness to fuel development of either silk worms or spiders that can be programmed hormonally to build complex organs tissues

[deep raft]

❤️

[wild tapir]

From consumer view I actually dont care personally if some of work is done by AI, if final product are good

[kindred vigil]

hey neeyth

[magic rose]

nikita ❤️❤️

[deep raft]

hey neeyth

[west portal]

❤️

[limpid horizon]

Fair enough but the economics doesnt pay for any job when you replace humans with ai LOL you pay for the service and servers not the people, again companies will save on money and fuck off people

[west portal]

Let's bring some affection to this rude chat :3

[regal scroll]

We’re just going to disregard your opinion and accelerate

[magic rose]

yeah !!

[west portal]

GANG CHAR GOT MUTED FOR SAYING THAT BRI ISH SLUR PFFFFT

[worthy swan]

in my experience companies are hiring more actual salespeople instead of SDRs

[nocturne gate]

bro thinks he's part of the tech elite 🤣

[magic rose]

LMAOOOOO WHICH ONE

[west portal]

the nwit one <3

[magic rose]

haiiii @shy flame

[pallid shoal]

there's just so much work that has to come first, but that's part of the world-building: marathon is supposed to be now +300y, nu-marathon is specifically 100y after early experiments with cyborgs so the weaveworms are the alternative to working with corpses

[limpid horizon]

Anyone can have an opinion to an opinion however being insulting to someone else isnt the answer but that tells me your stance in the world, I am fine with AI being used in SPECIFIC areas that dont take away opportunities and create soulless husks of works

[oblique girder]

put that dogs muzzle on good

[west portal]

Jokes on all the hate. I like the lore of Marathon. Like that there are a lot of args about it and it's deep

[pallid shoal]

ya everything is fun about marathon except its reality rn

[worthy swan]

it’s so peaceful now

[west portal]

Like, I wish they actually credited the artist. And finished the gameplay/polished it

[limpid horizon]

fair enough, just as long as ai isnt the main factor
background tasks sure, but replacing no

[heady light]

is there any way to sign up for some sort of alpha ???

[nocturne gate]

not rn no

[west portal]

rn they closed it TwT

[heady light]

Ah

[worthy swan]

while we’re at it can I get another mode and some character customization

[deep patio]

I need this game to succeed so i can feed on all this lore and probable engineering ideas. Oh and yea there is so much that need to fly first before SekGen gets to weaving shells

[magic rose]

they were muted for 2 weeks

[west portal]

I know that it will not be as deep as The Finals one. I wish there were actually full character customization

[deep patio]

2 weeks is excessive. What was the word???

[magic rose]

n*twit

[west portal]

Press F to our gang

[magic rose]

actually so silly

[west portal]

NOO DON'T SAY THE N WORD-!

[deep patio]

Seriously...... 2 weeks for THAT?!

[nocturne gate]

i'm not sure there are mods.. think its just an automod

[west portal]

Automod word 100%

[pallid shoal]

if you want some hard science to chew on, think about how someone could gene edit cordyceps to get specific planned behaviors from ants other than the natural existing process

that's a step toward weaveworms

[deep patio]

A good step

[magic rose]

yeah but what mod sets up an automod to mute u for 2 weeks after saying that

[worthy swan]

did they end up showing off the innovative engineering stuff that they mentioned in the showcase

[pallid shoal]

specifically alter cordyceps to make ants clean crumbs and then gtfo

[nocturne gate]

arn't scientist still baffeld by how cordyceps induces ant behaviors in the firstpalce?

[worthy swan]

just argue without insulting not that difficult

[pallid shoal]

ya it's cool

[west portal]

Skill issue :3

[nocturne gate]

might trigger a textlog reveiw with soft modded words that then multiply the duration

[deep patio]

Thats so cool. Im on the more mechanical side of engineering cuz its what im doin, so i dont often look into genetics cuz i find it more creepy compared to the other fields......this game may have changed that..... among other things

[west portal]

I kinda like the way organisations work in here than in The Finals tho. That you can like get rewards from multiple of them
There you can only choose one sponsor per season. (Not counting battlepass cosmetics)

[limpid horizon]

real

[west portal]

Instead of insulting, spread love <3

[pallid shoal]

biochemistry is just a different kind of machine

but chem is a different planet from mechanical physics

[pallid shoal]

i think it's underbaked, they're just skill trees with a description in the alpha

[deep patio]

Really?

[nocturne gate]

i'd love it if on release getting deep into a factions tree puts faction glyphs on your start bundles and the gear that they upgrade. that way you could hunt a SekGen for their improved SekGen mods ect...

[west portal]

Yeah a lot, those are like just contracts that give you atleast some reason to play. While sponsors in The Finals are like specific sponsor rewards

[west portal]

Yeahh more fraction stuff

[nocturne gate]

like spotting another runner team and then panic seeing thier Glitch is Cyarc affliated would be a cool moment

[pallid shoal]

imho, they're obviously cousins but biochem is wildly complex. like if you make a protein with the wrong chirality it's no good

[west portal]

How about colors of the fractions being on your character, like as customization option. Or any other cosmetics

[nocturne gate]

hell yea! make like little icons early on the tree and then full livery like sports cars deep into each facton

[deep patio]

I can see how that could wildy affect things. Biochem sounds so scary till you hit a breakthrough

[west portal]

Yeah like fraction liveries on the characters, specific patterns and logos splattered all over them

[spark bramble]

Just found out that the lead dev for Marathon was following the account of the artist that had work stolen, so it's not just a "rogue employee" a majority of the team followed their account. While I understand like inspiration and everything you can see just how bad that looks.

[west portal]

Yeah I know about that they had multiple people of bungie following the artist, which is weird

[deep patio]

Like the runners from the announcement trailer having Traxus logos on em. This has to be a thing. This gane has so much potential

[nocturne gate]

welcome to a week ago, heres your t shirt and i was there medal

[spark bramble]

Yay!

[west portal]

This has to be some sort of skin or feature I swearrr

[wispy spindle]

Just found out? That’s weeks old

[deep patio]

It is. Damn it, it will be!!!!

[west portal]

They are totally making fraction style skin variations

[pallid shoal]

i hope the corp competition is like the different enemy factions in helldivers 2 where players preferring a certain one results in story differences but it's hard to guess what story stuff they're planning. i think it'd be great if they had waves of beta test starts a prologue story so we can see "oh you all wanted bank space, well now traxus has alien tech they're using against uesc so uesc is getting stronger against aliens"

[west portal]

How about like specific territory being marked more by specific corpo, like the more fraction runners are there, the more of that color is on that part of the map or graffiti

[nocturne gate]

wait... oh no... what if they go back to start of D2 cosmetics, one and done shaders that stay with the weapon 😨

[pallid shoal]

lmao are we doing consumable cosmetics again?

[nocturne gate]

i have a fear

[west portal]

They are 100% doing purchaseable skins, that is not even a question

[deep patio]

That would be hell

[deep patio]

Thats a given....

[pallid shoal]

i'm thinking of d2y1 shaders

[west portal]

I wish they made us able to customize characters like putting the stickers and patterns everywhere

[nocturne gate]

hmm... if you make em like real cheap AND drop from loot rooms and puzzles ingame it wouln'd be as bad.

[pallid shoal]

everyone is selling cosmetics, people love spending a few bucks on a funny hat, humans like a little frivolity

[deep patio]

They did that to yall Y1?? Thats some 1st descendant bs

[pallid shoal]

i don't remember if they sold them but they were consumable, if you wanted to color all your armor you needed to farm 5 shaders to do it

[nocturne gate]

if they didn't sell em, i'd be fine with one and done shaders, means tehres a good endgame loot chase. but i'm pretty sure they sold shader packs which were gacha right?

[deep patio]

How unpleasant

If you had to pay for em

[pallid shoal]

i assume they'll have non-paid (non-premium free?) seasonal pursuit skins to split the detractors

[meager coral]

Good morning worms

[pallid shoal]

good worming

[pallid shoal]

i forgor but i think it wasn't that awful

[nocturne gate]

i wasn't playing back then so my info is hearsay. glad it wasn't that atrocious

[gritty urchin]

It’s Friday and arc raiders still isn’t out 🥀😭

[reef sleet]

Arc raiders is so good looking. Embark has made only bangers recently

[gritty urchin]

Crazy how positive everything’s been, imagine once the put in the player feedback. GOTY contender

[sick carbon]

Crazy how Nintendo games got away with selling N64 games for 70$ decades ago

[reef sleet]

possibly lol, it was def one of the first, unique-feeling extraction shooters in a long time.

[gritty urchin]

Fr it’s ruined video games for me. Don’t even feel like hopping on anything until that shit comes out😂

[wet herald]

There's definitely that SWBF2 DNA in ARC. Glad to see the Ex-DICE devs putting out great work.

[rigid oriole]

ohhh no https://www.gfinityesports.com/article/marathon-might-need-gta-level-numbers-just-to-break-even

[worldly juniper]

I heard ARC Raiders is gonna be f2p too

[nocturne gate]

we knew the execs were delusional this only reinforces it

[wet herald]

nah, 40 bucks. Embark has said so.

[worldly juniper]

oh thanks

[dense goblet]

“A real marathon fan would spend 40$”

[rigid oriole]

men in suits keep getting big flops in gaming

[wet herald]

I dont know about GTA 6 numbers to be considered a success, thats actually wild. I doubt SONY intended on making all of their money on Marathon alone.

[ember mountain]

I don’t care about anything besides battlefront 3

[wet herald]

I was serving it up as Boba on that game, stopped playing once the life support hit

[worldly juniper]

truthfully speaking AAA game development has become so complicated and effortful that even a $100 price makes sense for the big games, but from a consumer standpoint that's basically dead on arrival

[nocturne gate]

maybe.. now MAYBE just hear me out... devs should make games not someons whoes only job is to do presentations and then spend the rest of teh day goofing off

[stray lotus]

This game looks like it was made in roblox studio

[leaden solstice]

Wut. How much did Marathon cost to make????

GTA level numbers is INSANE.

[nocturne gate]

gotta buy all those sportscars

[ember mountain]

Ah I clap cheeks with Boba get hate messages every day

[wet herald]

Boba and Bossk, the realest

[ember mountain]

I stomp with Han and Finn as well

[worldly juniper]

another 4 billion cars to Pete Parsons' garage

[ember mountain]

A good bossk is almost impossible to kill you need a Anakin

[pallid shoal]

imagine overbudgeting a game during the covid games bubble (literally everyone did this)

[clever bluff]

Life is ROBLOX

[ember mountain]

I kinda miss the lockdowns because traffic wasn’t so bad

[wet herald]

cant believe the game has more players right now than ever on PC. I used to go like 150-2 in that game, EA flopped that one hard. I loved the first one too, way better graphics.

[leaden solstice]

Why are execs so out of touch and stupid???

[kindred vigil]

For reference GTA 5 broke 800$mill in its first day
1bill in 3

[clever bluff]

I'm tryna catch who ever got image perms taken away, I'm tryna catch him, I'm tryna CATCH him, I wanna CATCH HIMMM

[leaden solstice]

HOW DO THEY THINK THEY'RE GONNA MATCH THAT WITH AN EXTRACTION SHOOTER???

[kindred vigil]

Also another fun fact, GTA still sells over 5 mill copies per 3 month

[nocturne gate]

for people whos job it is to steer the helm of a company away from dangers like that ceos soom profoundly unable to do so.

[pallid shoal]

live service was always the corpo dream, recoup your costs over 10 years

[nocturne gate]

reminds me of ea and deadspace 3

[civic minnow]

why the fuck was i unmuted when i didn’t even say anything

[kindred vigil]

Execs and CEO need that money

[wet herald]

Pete Carsons needs his cars

[leaden solstice]

Not the answer to the question I asked, but yeah.

[pallid shoal]

they are regularly the least able and willing to do sensible things expectially when they have investors to dazzle

[whole widget]

wagwan marathoners

[unreal fog]

wewind wounds

[civic minnow]

hi mods

[nocturne gate]

wait mods are real?

[pallid shoal]

investors want to feel like they're getting next year's scam and they want to bet big, it works really badly with video games when you've got an established successful ip. they act like those are gold without enormous continuous effort.

[elfin mango]

Marathon is cooked

[nocturne gate]

its frustrateing when continuous steady growth is clearly better than betting big and loseing big regularly.

[pallid shoal]

marathon is a lot like ss:ktjl, hopefully it deserves to survive longer

[wet herald]

Everyone wants to be Fortnite but not put in the Fortnite work. I just want this to work because I already have a million hours on Tarkov, I love Marathon and I really want a new extraction FPS to play

[leaden solstice]

More like consistent profit is better than seeking constant growth. Infinite profit isn't possible.

[snow ember]

wtf is ss:ktjl?

[rigid oriole]

I think it's because how much sony paid for bungie, if im not wrong was around 3.6 billion, GTA VI development It's around 2 billion

[kindred vigil]

u wouldn't get it andi

[pallid shoal]

even fortnite didn't launch as fortnite

[nova fiber]

I mean, game studios cost more than games?

[ember mountain]

Well yes and no Fortnite turned into an engine like Roblox

[pallid shoal]

investors are literally stupid so don't try to reason about it

[rigid oriole]

ofc, but they need to make money?

[leaden solstice]

We should ice them all imo.

[wet herald]

once they saw what it could become, they killed Paragon, UT and everything else and threw all of their eggs into 1 basket, hey it worked out.

[kindred vigil]

the engine for fornite was already a global engine for anyone to use thoug(or u mean the fortnite editor?)

[ember mountain]

No, I’m talking about being able to create your own mods

[fiery crypt]

a million

[nova fiber]

D2 makes hella money. A huge number of players dropped like $40 on starwars skins a few months back. Micro txns make stupid money. Fortnite makes like billions a year

[ember mountain]

I wanna smell you

[kindred vigil]

oh okay I see

[fiery crypt]

brandon and kelp and you all wanna smell me

[nocturne gate]

if only the reinvested some of that money back into d2 v .v

[ember mountain]

Who doesn’t like Star Wars?

[pallid shoal]

ya "why do they keep doing it" because if they win they get enough money to make five other games that don't have to succeed at all (which only worked for bungie until they had to cancel four of their other games 😦 )

[leaden solstice]

MORE SPORTS CARS!!!

[nova fiber]

I mean, they did and they have.

[rigid oriole]

yeah, d2 makes a lot of money, hope bungie can be saved by D2 and the gacha game, but honestly, marathon look like is gonna be a big flop

[nocturne gate]

why? what do yah smell like?

[kindred vigil]

I just need to see u alive

[ember mountain]

I can’t find you on PlayStation

[topaz comet]

i didnt deserve to be muted

[finite radish]

Can I get a dinklebeat

[rigid oriole]

I don't own a PS since maybe 2008 sorry lol

[fiery crypt]

i smell good and awesome

[wet herald]

a destiny gacha game.... disgusting lol

[pallid shoal]

we've woken woken woken the hive

[ember mountain]

You are lying to me now

[nova fiber]

It comes down to how they handle the Antireal stuff, if they do well on that the game could still succeed. People seemed to really enjoy playing the alpha and the art style is cool.

[finite radish]

25% off sitewide on mechanix btw chatters

[nocturne gate]

kinda feels like they didn't , heresy was good but echos and revenant felt very undercooked. they been doing micro tansactions for ages yet large chunks of d2 have languished.

[pallid shoal]

besides bloodborn what has been worth playing since ps2

[civic minnow]

yeah and they are very upset with you >:(

[rigid oriole]

im 100% honest lol, my last console was a xbox 360, since then im a pc player

[nova fiber]

Echoes was during the Final Shape, which was very polished.

[fiery crypt]

god of war!

[frank geyser]

@dull estuary is there a playMA soon?

[ember mountain]

Minecraft god of war Ghost of Tsushima

[pallid shoal]

and these are all on pc rn i think?

minecraft really

[nocturne gate]

final shape was polished echos was less than an arfter thought, only good bit was the maya storyline and even thats more fun to watch on youtube than actual play trhough imo. (also salty vex got the short end of the stick narratively AGAIN)

[ember mountain]

I haven’t played Destiny’s PVE content since 30th anniversary

[fiery crypt]

wait ur right i forgot

[ember mountain]

Last of us

[nova fiber]

Uh cool dont care

[ember mountain]

Okay

[high orchid]

For investors in publically traded company, growth is profit, since they don't receive money from profits. They earn by selling their shares, and prices of those are reflected in growth.

[leaden solstice]

Yeah, and infinite growth isn't possible either.

[high orchid]

And that's the fun part

[swift siren]

they have to try to achieve infinite growth though as that is in the interest of the shareholders

[nova fiber]

No, you must simply work harder and lift your boostraps with more force

[nocturne gate]

maybe public tradeing is... bad

[pallid shoal]

like i said, investors are stupid as rocks and they don't care whether things are good as long as they look like something that will improve their stock prices. a bad game coming out is bad but leaving it in the oven for 7 years means they can still believe the empty promise is keeping number up

[swift siren]

And due to Dodge v. Ford a company cannot go against the interest of its shareholdrs even if its makes the employees worse off

[fringe ether]

I think the Echoes Battlegrounds were pretty close to actual Strikes than Battlegrounds so when those get moved into the Strike Playlist, it'll be good

[leaden solstice]

I hate you Ford.

[swift siren]

actually ford fought against this ruling iirc

[kindred vigil]

Who knew cars would cause a domino effect

[leaden solstice]

Wait really? IIRC it was Ford that tried to argue for shareholders.

[pallid shoal]

american auto proving its inferiority again (and vw had corruption scandals over the last few years)

[swift siren]

he wantred lower prices for his cars but shareholders wanted them to be more expensive so they could make more in turn

[pallid shoal]

hey maybe if your business can't survive without destroying the environment and billions in tax breaks/subsidies you've got a failing business

[nocturne gate]

echos battlegrounds felt agressively mid to me, but thats more a matter of taste i think, i'm glad you enjoyed em. if we get the lazerwall boss room on gm it'll be HELL

[high orchid]

It's not cars, it's vanity.

[kindred vigil]

Yeah that

[nova fiber]

I do hope the full game basically talks about being in a body owned by a corporation, this discussion on Auto companies is kinda on track for this game

[leaden solstice]

Corpo bootlickers when you tell them their favorite megacorpos would be flopping without billions in government handouts:

[pallid shoal]

one of the 2023 ARG tshirts came with a sample contract from a mars traxus employee

[nova fiber]

Where can I read that?

[pallid shoal]

alas the google drive i'd saved with scans of all the shirt extras is gone

[ebon sparrow]

lol this game so dead alrady

[rigid oriole]

bungie announced something after the stream? the social media of marathon is dead

[wet herald]

If yall are short on Marathon lore, this chad @tepid bane collected a ton of it. https://marathon.karnemir.com/

[nova fiber]

I mean the only question worth answering rn is antireal, and thats like a long term delicate legal thing.

[swift siren]

i feel like this is the wrong discord for that i know they have a vtuber server to advertise ur stuff

[nocturne gate]

its a bot/ artscammer

[swift siren]

ah

[high orchid]

Why the heck the art scammer would go advertising his services to Marathon community?..

[kindred vigil]

scammers go anywhere bro that's what they do

[rigid oriole]

maybe is the art director of bungie 💀

[nova fiber]

High volume of people in one place with limmited restrictions

[high orchid]

That was a very subtle joke

[marsh snow]

They infest everything

[ember bolt]

God morgen folkens

[pallid shoal]

new suckers every day, scale is the name of the game

[nova fiber]

Only recovery left for this game is to quickly and effectively address antireal stuff, then greatly incorporate alpha feeback WHILE having highly effective communication about everything. The live stream was such a mess, likely as they were all in shock from the theft. Thats a lot its gonna be TOUGH

[pallid shoal]

don't forget hamish at bungie.org

[high orchid]

Hej kompis

[torn creek]

they missed their opportunity to apologise

[pallid shoal]

when they did it live on the most humiliating stream i've seen this year?

[nova fiber]

I think they botched that stream, but any communication with Antireal takes more than 24hrs. They can still recover with a major push, but damn its gonna be tough.

[remote finch]

should've just said canceled the stream due to the theft stuff, then put out a big public apology in conjunction w/ anti real

[pallid shoal]

they have a team of lawyers climbing over each other to handle the antireal stuff

[rigid oriole]

Antireal doesn't want to sue them, so, maybe bungie just need to hire or paid the guy and the drama would mostly over the same day

[pallid shoal]

if they hadn't shown up it would've been worse, it was the best they could do in a bad situation

[remote finch]

that being said i get why joe didn't feel the need to grovel over it that much, he probably wasn't even on the project when wheoever did this did it

[nova fiber]

No but they cannot say that Anti has been compensated until they have been, they have to negotiate how much that is, their are lawyers all over this

[torn creek]

hasnt it been like a week now though?

[pallid shoal]

since the stream when they apologized? like did you injure yourself clutching your pearls and also want an apology?

[nova fiber]

The correct strategy is def to collect and do a huge push with all their ducks in a row, but yeah this is a low

[remote finch]

T B H and I will have people disagree, I think people who already had it out for this game are using the antireal thing to really amp up the hate

LEGALLY speaking the anti real stuff being in the alpha isn't even illegal, it's not a product they're selling anyone

[torn creek]

they didnt even apologise on stream, they just said they liked his work

[nova fiber]

I think I still want to buy this game, but the art style is the major draw in

[remote finch]

antireal didn't persue legal action because they can't

[nocturne gate]

yea its being used as a prop. lotta a people seem real concerened about artist all of a sudden

[nocturne gate]

*her work

[pallid shoal]

did you miss the start of the stream when joe cross read the prepared remarks?

[remote finch]

thank you tkail that's why I was using they couldn't remember gender

[torn creek]

mb

[ember bolt]

You speak nor?

[torn creek]

not rlly sure why i thought he

[nova fiber]

People get it wrong pretty often, sexism and bad reporting

[torn creek]

i joined after like 10 minutes and watched them stammer for 10 minutes more

[rigid oriole]

did you read how bungie is losing in court to a guy who claims that he owns the story of the red war?, the anti real stuff it's just a wined case, but the dude doesn't want anything related to court and lawyers.

[nocturne gate]

which is wild when its like.. just there on her profile

[pallid shoal]

they did it first, the rest of the stream could've been cut but they just carried on

[high orchid]

Nope, but it shouldn't stop me, right 😁

[torn creek]

ok

[remote finch]

yes because that was a product they sold peple volt

[nova fiber]

Again, its commonly known the story guy is full of shit

[nova fiber]

No, its a guy who wrote a book that he claims is similar to the red war

[remote finch]

and to be real you're gonna have a hard time explaining to a judge how a random decal in a fully realized alpha that was, to be clear, not a customer facing product but a closed alpha, leads to the person who made the decal losing money

[ember bolt]

Trueee

[torn creek]

one mess up isnt really that condemning but bungie has apparently done this many times in the past

[pallid shoal]

@torn creek they also have a statement in #marathon-news about it where it's clear they know something was wrong and they meant to rectify things to the artist's satisfaction

[nova fiber]

A lot of the "journalism" on this is clickbait tubers unforch

[rigid oriole]

ofc he is full of shit, but he is winning the case because bungie can't prove that they made their own game

[remote finch]

sorry not familiar with thge situation at all, I don't like destiny and never got into it.

[nova fiber]

Source?

[nova fiber]

All good, just correcting

[pallid shoal]

ya they can't be happy about how often they're embarassed over this

[rigid oriole]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/05/03/destiny-2-content-vaulting-causes-more-legal-problems-for-bungie/

[pallid shoal]

but if you've got a few hundred working artists churning work out year over year, and still contract outside, stuff's going to slip through

[rigid oriole]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/bungie-fails-to-provide-evidence-for-destiny-2-copyright-lawsuit-because-the-content-is-vaulted/

[nova fiber]

That is funny

[torn creek]

idk it just sounds like they are scapegoating one singular 'former' employee when in reality collective negligence was the issue

[wet herald]

free clicks to satisfy the click machine

[remote finch]

I work at a national cable news outlet and recently we fired someone for plagarising the competition, it happens in all industries, it's just gamers are the most unhinged about dealing with it

[torn creek]

to suggest one guy in the past single handedly worked alone without discussion or collaboration with peers and snuck in stolen art just isnt believable

[nova fiber]

I feel like it is reasonable to compare in game elements to the guy's story or some full playthough someone posted online / cinematics. Although I can appreciate the judge not being ok with content being gone

[celest briar]

It doesn’t sound like that at all, if u ask the artist he says they used it without his permission. Sounds like corporate slang of we aren’t doing anything about it.

[nova fiber]

Replying to the wrong comment? Thats me talking about people misreporting on the subject, the artist, who is a woman. Which you have gotten wrong again btw

[pallid shoal]

that's exactly what happens? the dev team of hundreds are all busy enough and they see soooooo much work crossing every desk, that stuff slips so easily unless they know to look for stuff in specific. just because they were generally using that person's work doesn't mean they'd recognize a specific sample if it looks generally like everything else and seems to fit in

[remote finch]

truthfully atp if the game comes out and I get to play it for a season I would be happy for it, but I'm not getting my hopes up anymore lol.

[pallid shoal]

if antireal had never seen her work in the alpha, it's totally possible no one would've ever known

[nova fiber]

Itll come out at some point, worst case is probably one year of support from bungie

[nocturne gate]

lotta people defending antireal not even useing the correct pronouns...
makes you wonder if their outrage is genuine

[remote finch]

yeah can't be overstated how much keeping the NDA would've helped them

so easy to say 'yeah that stuff was in there, also, none of it is final and you weren't even supposed to see it

[nova fiber]

I think it is and it isnt. Most people dont seem to understand the process happening here, but dont attribute to malice what can be accounted for by stupidity

[torn creek]

i disagree, this kinda thing doesnt happen at other studios often, why are'nt the art team collaborating and explaining their work and doing the diligence to prevent this?

[pallid shoal]

or it just would've been discovered post launch, which probably would've had less impact because "lmao we patch it out who cares" and people would have problems with the game to talk about

[remote finch]

We already had a big problem of people looking at the alpha and saying 'oh this is the whole game I guess' when clearly that isn't the case

[nova fiber]

It would have leaked, this anti-real stuf would have been found IN THE FULL RELEASED GAME. NDA would not have helped

[dusky otter]

Game is cocked anyway and its not out, Playstation trying to make concord 2

[nocturne gate]

i want to argure with that... but ur totally right. appreciate the refocous 👍

[deep lantern]

the public forum is a horrible place

[pallid shoal]

if the employee was fired already in the waves of layoffs bungie had, or they were otherwise just not producing and were let go, who would they have talked to?

[remote finch]

If you guys are confident you know enough about game design to say that be my guest. I would imagine before a full release you have lawyers and other people go over everything however.

[deep lantern]

it’s probably what’s been going on frankly

[high lark]

Game would’ve sold better if they hid the stolen stuff even if it did get caught after launch

[nova fiber]

I am sure that they did not knowling put Antireal's work in the alpha either, lawyers check that stuff too this fell through

[deep lantern]

i mean if you hide that you stole a candy bar it still counts as stealing it

[remote finch]

What I'm saying is it doesn't matter in an alpha however, legally speaking.

So they wouldn't have

[torn creek]

if they let the artist go and just copy pasted the art on their computer into the game thats negiligence, if i understand your question.

[flat depot]

Check me pronouns spongeboy

[pallid shoal]

imagine forcing people to memorize every detail of every inspiration file just to do something the employees should've been trusted to do in the first place

[nova fiber]

Ok ok ok, lets break this down. Company unknowingly has stolen art, during a public test its discovered by the public / the creator. There is no reason to think they would have noticed before the launch.

[high lark]

Doesn’t matter it’s all to make money game has no soul anyways

[deep lantern]

you’re not even rage baiting, you’re just plain dumb i think

[pallid shoal]

do you know how visual assets get into a game?

[nova fiber]

There are very few things in life that arent effected by this

[flat depot]

I like me money

[nova fiber]

HOLY SHIT ITS HIM

[flat depot]

Check me pronouns spongeboy

[remote finch]

I do agree that if the game was out and people liked it and this happened, it would be patched out and people would move on

[torn creek]

no, not really, but it seems the system bungie uses has a habit of not being a good one.

[nova fiber]

HOLY SHIT ITS HER COSPLAYING AS HIM

[primal plinth]

Lotta lawyers and devs in chat today. What are the odds

[ivory fog]

I'm just watching

[nocturne gate]

in the studios i've worked at its general practice to do a quick asset review before pushing it to live to catch bad assets or stuff leaking from other project folders that shouldn't be there. its a management + process failure that it happend in this case imo. that being said teh MAIN blame is on the artist who lifted the work wholesale then just did a lazy revector for the decals sheet.

[kindred vigil]

HOLY FUCK

[worthy arch]

AYO SO WHATCHU SAYIN
SMACKS LIPS
IS DAT WE SUM KINDA ART RAIDERS??

[flat depot]

Yarg yarg yarg

[flat depot]

Squidward im sending you to the night shift for that one

[remote finch]

I think there's something to be said for the fact that the guy didn't work there anymore as well

[nova fiber]

I dont know much about the dev process tbh, but Id assume that happened for the alpha release as well? Also I think bungie has said it was on a decal sheet or something which got past their checks.

[kindred vigil]

What the hell Krabs 😔

[trim summit]

why is krabs so caked up

[pallid shoal]

krab cakes

[nova fiber]

Always has been

[primal plinth]

Beat me to it

[heady tide]

game is doomed go play destiny

[remote finch]

The alpha was originally planned to be closed, and was changed last minute. I don't have insider info but the whole point I'm making is maybe there wasn't as much scrutiny as there would've been otherwise

[remote finch]

no I like extraction shooters. But I will go play hunt lol

[flat depot]

Im calling broly

[pallid shoal]

word, the hope is you wouldn't even hire someone who would do that in the first place, but it happens

[nova fiber]

I guess that makes sense, but the alpha was always gonna leak. Frankly it not being private may have saved their ass from having this mess at launch

[ivory fog]

Hunt is so peak

[kindred vigil]

WHAT DOES BROLY GOTTA DO WITH THIS ‼️‼️‼️😭😭😭

[remote finch]

Hunt is the best game no one plays tbh.

[nocturne gate]

this is also something that could have screwed thing's up, if the prev artist hadn't labelled stuff clearly they could have just dumped their working assets into the project which could have contained the antireal stuff. hell in the most charitable of worlds that artist might have just been useing them as reference and not marked the files properly.

[vapid comet]

Another day, the trash fire that is Marathon continues to burn. Morning you delicious bastards

[fickle shell]

Bungie is in an interesting situation rn. Everybody is talking about stolen art, which is bad....but...nobody is talking about not liking the game for the gameplay anymore 😅. So.... Win?

[vapid comet]

No, that's just the second sentence after talking about the art theft lmao

[flat depot]

He is part of me krusty krew ,spongeboy

[kindred vigil]

God I sure hope there isn't a goku....

[pallid shoal]

having to basically reboot with a new director after barret's termination probably made it harder

[remote finch]

Right, and obviously I think people here in the game's hype discord have an unfair bias towards giving a benefit of the doubt to bungie, but I think these are salient points.

[torn creek]

in my opinion the art theft is a red flag whereas gameplay is only in close alpha, so isnt actually that meaningful for making a judgement

[remote finch]

100% agree dude, that's why Joe Zegler was not groveling during the stream imo.

[primal plinth]

It's fun I just have a bad problem with seeing other player (skill issue I know)

[worthy arch]

You only have one eye

[flat depot]

Wrong, yarg yarg yarg

[high lark]

I could imagine the contractor being payed pennies to make decal art just goofing off at work knowing he’s got a free week from handing in his stolen twitter art for the week. These contractors don’t give a shit and bungie is responsible for buying em cheap and being to incompetent to check the work, for a billion dollar company you’d hope they’d have resources to make a game with firing everyone but hey Pete needs his cars I guess

[nocturne gate]

ur right, its important to try and temper that bias. bungie do a LOT that makes the ire justified

[vapid comet]

The game comes out in 123 days, and they're still talking about "finding a baseline". That's very meaningful for making a judgement.

[remote finch]

No I do too tbh. Why I was interested in Marathon was I would like to see a more casual extraction experience. Same reason I'm like whatever to the pve and solo queue whiners-- I have a crew I play with. I can go play destiny if I want pve. Give me extraction.

[nocturne gate]

the direction for marathon gameplay wise does feel muddled

[deep lantern]

the rare spurts of thought show themselves

[ivory fog]

Signalis

[fickle shell]

I see you're still abstaining

[nocturne gate]

Signalis 🐦

[half nymph]

seems like this game is cooked

[vapid comet]

It feels intentionally obtuse. "No, we'll give them what we believe we know they want. No PVE, just PVP, but watered down. Extraction shooter only, and no aliens."

[half nymph]

the trailers made me excited and then the gameplay was mediocre but I still liked the art and now the art was stolen soooo

[torn creek]

release date isnt binding, perhaps they will delay if they think they can do better. A lot of games have been ruined by rushing recently. also 123 is a decent amount of time for a AAA studio

[nocturne gate]

to me it feels like devs trying to actualy make a good game and being choked out by execs who "have a batter idea"

[vapid comet]

Frankly, their obvious recalcitrance towards implementing the only thing people are excited about from this franchise (the aliens) reveals to me that they don't actually have any love for this IP, they just want to use memberberries to try and jump start what amounts to a new IP in 2025.

[remote finch]

like 5 decals were stolen, antireal doesn't own a whole style of art exclusively lol.

[high lark]

The aliens will come after launch, 1 enemy type is peak minimum viable product, revel in “being apart of the development journey”

[soft star]

aren't spht and pfhor supposed to come out in the next alpha/beta or something?

[soft star]

vro......

[remote finch]

I think it's a salient point that you don't show everything to players before the game is out in a live service game

[nocturne gate]

i've had a manager like that, only skills were writeing jira tickes but they were adamant they had the best opinions about art and design 🙄

[vapid comet]

Dude they could not care less about them. They are clearly tired of even hearing about it, let alone being asked about when they will be implemented into the game expressly about them.

[soft star]

please tell me you guys are lying, i'm about to lose the last smithers of interest in this game

[magic rose]

yeah their responses to the alien question in the Q&A were soooo rough

[high lark]

Buy arc raider stocks, Sell marathon stock

[nocturne gate]

with old bungie i'd think they were hideing something big, with new bungie if they didn't show it off they dont have it.

[nova fiber]

They 100% should have cancled, the art thing was bad enough they seemed in shock but their stubborness to adapt is hurting them

[magic rose]

they seemed to cringe at the idea of the aliens idk :/

[wheat bone]

Could be that they are saving the alien reveal for after an in game puzzle or event that we would need to cause. Maybe they are keeping it vague and close to chest because they want it to be a secret (massive cope on my part but who knows at this point)

[nova fiber]

I think theyre trying to do that with the 4th map

[quartz abyss]

smithers

[magic rose]

cope unfortunately

[ivory fog]

I noticed that with people recently, mfs don't like aliens anymore.

[remote finch]

Personally I'mma keep huffing this copium tbh.

[flat depot]

I need plankton so bad

[nocturne gate]

posisble but this aint the same bungie that did whisper of the worm. i highly doubt it

[sage garnet]

Achievements about killing compilers were all ready leaked. My guess is that they are attempting to either try to hold it as a "surprise" or down play it because its possibly only the Compilers or limited pfhor interaction in game.

[wild tapir]

True, literally had few games 1x1

[vapid comet]

If that's the case, it's because it's the only surprise they have.

[wild tapir]

Where is my DeSalle 😢

[magic rose]

the fourth map doesn’t seem to be as ground breaking as it’s been said to be :/ (source: i datamine)

[primal plinth]

So hot take. I like that there is little to no aliens (I'm about to get lit up like a christmas tree) i'm gives me a unintentional picture that all were extracting is scraps that not even the s'pht/phfor want. Just us maggots.

[nova fiber]

You may well be right, but I dont think so. Compilers have been featured in too many trailers I think

[nova fiber]

You datamined what?

[magic rose]

early (ish?) files and stuff for marathon map are in alpha files

[remote finch]

at large in our culture I think sci-fi stuff isn't as popular as it once was. In part because tech has cannibalized our lives in many ways, and also because when there isn't a lot of hope in the future why be excited about it? That's why kids wanna be an influencer when they grow up instead of something cool. That being said, Chinese kids still want to be astronauts.

[vapid comet]

You're going to need Narcan for this purity of copium

[sour pollen]

is the game currently closed? havent followed up in a bit

[nova fiber]

DM me some stuff ig

[soft star]

i mean in terms of vibe there's something to that but when i played og marathons, the aliens and the textlogs are what stood out to me as defining features of marathon. with both absent i don't know why i should care anymore

[ivory fog]

It's really sad to see

[soft star]

besides, THERES LITERALLY A COMPILER IN THE ONE TRAILER EVERYONE SAW.

[rigid oriole]

you guys are gonna play the destiny gacha?

[magic rose]

i can’t imagine they DONT have the aliens on marathon but the mechanics and stuff they talked about are kinda :/

[ivory fog]

I'm going to try it

[remote finch]

dead ass cannot be understated lmao

[nocturne gate]

definately not

[quartz abyss]

it's bc sci fi has boring characters

[magic rose]

unironically marathon map is literally gambit and i wish i was joking

[vapid comet]

I just can't believe they really decided to go the hero shooter route for this extraction shooter. I just can't square this circle.

[remote finch]

go read ender's game

[nova fiber]

One in the trailer last year and in the cinematic, but the way theyve talked about building up to it concerns me, like it might be the next update or later

[primal plinth]

I'M COOOOPING

[ivory fog]

Or just that everything sucks now and a good game/film is like a rare species to find now.

[torn creek]

what?

[magic rose]

well. “literally” is disingenuous. but as of right now the big part is a “6 person boss rush mode”

[remote finch]

or 2001, or any philip k dick

[nova fiber]

Youre co-oping? This game isnt split screen?

[wild tapir]

maybe there is STRONG MINDBLOWING LORE behind it

[proper pier]

Old Marathon: time traveling philosophy journey with a rampant AI vs an alien slave empire

New Marathon: buy a mtx skin for your punk rock robot and extract with a new backpack

[remote finch]

GUYS IF MARATHON DOESN'T HAVE SPLIT SCREEN COOP IT'S A DAY ONE NO BUY OKAY?/s

[soft star]

thing is that would be kinda shit though. the idea behind marathon and halo is that when you engange in a fight, it's multiple aliens with different characteristics covering each other and creating a fun combat scenario. just compilers or pfhor with spears would be hella boring.

[rigid oriole]

imagine a split screen coop in 2025

[nova fiber]

The lore in the ARG websites is abs crazy. There are like full worker contracts with traxus on mars

[vapid comet]

😮‍💨 And then putting wallhacks / invisibility / the most basic ass "ults" in this game... To call it uninspired is actually the paragon of charity.

[high lark]

I don’t even consider gacha or mobile as “games”. Gacha has no gamplay, and mobile isent a real platform. Bungies future is destiny rising a mobile gacha abomination

[nova fiber]

I think thats just something that change with the approach, like a compiler would be wondering world boss or somthing that just rips you apart.

[wild tapir]

Aliens will be on release is pfhor sure

[nocturne gate]

sadly have to agree there, wheres the WEIRD abilites and powers, like in lore theres so much cool stuff you could draw on and we get, run good, sheild ,smokebomb ect...

[vapid comet]

A Chinese-made Gacha game. Imagine telling yourself a decade ago that this is where Bungie goes, left to their own devices.

[soft star]

background laughter, clapping, standing ovations, male pregnancy

[rigid oriole]

does anyone knows a good marathon lore video on youtube?

[ivory fog]

Genshin blew up, now everyone wants to make a gacha game.
Some are fun, most are the same thing.

[remote finch]

plot wise I'm not sure how they're gonna get the pfhor there but also I don't think they care that much about the original games' continuity. Not to mention infinity introduced alt universe bullshit, the dumbest 'idk how to fix this' panic button for writers.

[primal plinth]

Coping but maybe that spelled incorrectly so i'll have to be executed

[nova fiber]

I agree too, I think theyre trying to keep a grounded feel going. It seemed to play well, but idk

[vapid comet]

Literally the single example of success at the scale necessary for Marathon

[remote finch]

I don't mind gacha stuff if it's purely cosmetic

[nova fiber]

The original games gave NO FUCKS about continuity

[soft star]

that would make some sense and maybe it'd be good but i personally think it'd be much, much better if they designed them to be like the covenant or literally any faction in destiny. world-boss compiler sounds pretty bad unless the game is like fortnite where it's hyper casual and people just f around

[high lark]

I really don’t care about playing or embracing Chinese stuff, I just will never partake in the mobile gacha market it has no value to me

[wild tapir]

We are probably gonna get much more heroes after release, its higly unlikely that there is gonna be only 6 in live service game

[nocturne gate]

oh dont get me wrong i dont think the actual execution in game is bad, i jsut think its conceptually kinda bland

[vapid comet]

The end result is the same. A 'game' I don't want to play--

[wild tapir]

So we got most basic stuff on release, its my guess

[magic rose]

unironically destiny rising is pretty fun, it’s def a gacha don’t get me wrong but some really solid gameplay

[nova fiber]

Im hoping that the medic character has some weird shit to get biomata back up and running like a big fat sekiguchi worm

He wont tho

[soft star]

the more i stay in this chat, the more i'm sitting and thinking "man i should play Marathon Eternal instead of giving bungo any money"

[vapid comet]

Diablo Immortal was 'fun' too, in exactly the same way as you've described.

[soft star]

Or Marathon Eternity, i forget the mod's exact name

[remote finch]

yeah, 100% within the first 6 months we will probably see additional maps, heroes, weapons, enemies etc. idk how long they plan for a season to be but from season to season there will probably be shake ups.

[nocturne gate]

or some body horror stuff like carrying spare heads for teamates

[ivory fog]

Then Tarkov blew up, now everyone wants to make an extraction shooter.
Some are fun, most are the same and boring.
Personally I don't have an opinion on Marathon because I don't have opinions on things I've never played/seen.
But even I know it's not looking good for bungie, it hasn't looked good for bungie for years now.
I say this, and yet I still play destiny, because nothing gives that same kick.

[magic rose]

Ok

[high lark]

I want a law to force all “gacha games” to change their branding to “gacha slop” like they did to cigarette companies

[torn creek]

i think they should just delay for 6 months then

[nova fiber]

Would be totaly cool, hes 100% just gonna have syringe or a defibrilator or something tho

[remote finch]

Comparing this to Hunt, which rn has two maps out and does events that add new guns and perks every couple of months, launching w/ 3 maps and a promise of more and new enemy types is more than sufficient

[flat depot]

Buy me patty

[ivory fog]

I thought there were three or four maps in Hunt?

[nova fiber]

No dude hes saying that its a live service game

[nocturne gate]

how much?

[remote finch]

two in rotation rn, but they're bringing back a 3rd soon probably

[vapid comet]

I don't think 6 months is sufficient to address the level of design and gameplay remediation necessary to make this into something people not only want to play, but will actually pay for.

[flat depot]

100$

[high lark]

All we have is stolen art assets, will that do?

[nova fiber]

The more I hear about hunt the weirder it sounds

[magic rose]

idk where this idea of “marathon is launching with only 3 maps” came from, it’s not like people say “this destiny expac isn’t coming with a raid!”

[ivory fog]

Had no idea the rotations changed. Not a fan of map rotations for specific seasons n such, but hey its hunt.

[nocturne gate]

too expensive, gonna go buy an orange one from that sponge

[flat depot]

It doesn't for squidward it doesn't for ya yarg yarg yarg

[quartz abyss]

all hail plankton

[flat depot]

99$

[proper pier]

You have my vote for world president

[nova fiber]

DEAL

[torn creek]

good point, i do think it bad practice to just roll out half the content graudally over the first year after release though

[flat depot]

Spongeboy kill this one

[flat depot]

Yarg yarg yarg

[torn creek]

6 months on top of the few months before planned release

[high lark]

I’m going for the most oppressed voter demographic, gamers

[remote finch]

My biggest thing with Marathon really is this: So many people say so much about this game that shows that they DO NOT PLAY EXTRACTION SHOOTERS. If you know nothing about the genre, I don't really care about your input tbh. If you have nbever played Tarkov or Hunt and you're like 'uhhh there's no solo queue pve' legit go play destiny and don't come back pls

[nova fiber]

Again, its a live service game. They consider the launch a full release. (I love destiny, but damn not a strong example for a launch)

[vapid comet]

I don't think 10 months is sufficient to address the level of design and gameplay remediation necessary to turn this game into a game people not only want to play, but will actually buy.

[proper pier]

If you're charging retail price, your game should be a full game at release unless openly marketed as Early Access

[ivory fog]

Totally fair imo.

[nova fiber]

Right, but the hardcore extraction shooter players really dont seem interested. This game is more casual than tarkov to bring in new players, what they think does matter

[proper pier]

10 months might be enough for a different company, but doesn't seem to be enough for today's Bungie

[magic rose]

nah the solo q thing hurts heavy

[torn creek]

hmm

[proper pier]

Esp since the last 3-4 months of that will be QA rather than content creation

[nocturne gate]

i aint never played an extraction shooter, marathon is gonna/might be my first

[soft star]

it really feels like they should've taken all the assets and work they've done and make a pve shooter at least. single player game with a campaign best case.

[ivory fog]

I think Arc Raiders or Hunt would be a better choice.

[remote finch]

Those don't make money jmed, bottom line.

[quartz abyss]

ew

[ivory fog]

Hell maybe even tarkov.

[proper pier]

A marathon take on helldivers

[vapid comet]

Just say the quiet part out loud. They should have done Destiny 3.

[remote finch]

not the way a live service game does

[nova fiber]

Hunt seems wack, I played ARC and got super bored.

[high orchid]

Don't treat alpha like a final product. It's a tailored demo, made specifically to test bare-bone mechanics while not give away any significant story or lore. There could already be maps and enemies ready to be dropped. The problem is bare-bone gameplay was not that enjoyable. And changing that is harder than making more maps or enemies.

[soft star]

helldivers would beg to differ. trend chasing is merely an attempt to go for the big leagues that leaves a pile of corpses.

[nocturne gate]

arc raiders maybe (even if it is visually bland), hunt looks way too toxic

[ivory fog]

Thats fair, I personally enjoy both but I can see why others don't enjoy both.

[quartz abyss]

true arc raiders so ugly

[high lark]

I want a delay until they can come back with a new video/marketing push “for the players” showing solo Q, VoIP, More enemie types, fully customizable runners instead of heroes. Than I’d believe they care and support them

[ivory fog]

Also totally fair.

[proper pier]

Very unlike Bungie to not take the opportunity to make us earn Gjallarhorn for the 4th time

[vapid comet]

Literal 20 year old cope take. "bEtA iSn'T fInAl rElEaSe!!!!1111"

[remote finch]

hell divers is horde mode from gears lmao. not a true single player shooter experience

[wild tapir]

Playing solo in Hunt: Showdown, The Cycle Frontier, Tarkov and having a blast clapping trios~

[nocturne gate]

no it aint, its well crafted... just i find its style boreing

[ivory fog]

I wanna get better at solo hunt lmao

[nova fiber]

I got a lot of time out of arc, the complete lack of story / lore / art in that classic modern EA game grey was tough for me. Although Marathon's art is now like subject to the antireal stuff it does look REALLY FUCKING COOl

[torn creek]

i feel like arc tries a little to hard to crowd please rather than really hone in on a mechanic. but yeah if u want to play an extraction shooter in a more relaxed environment it looks like a good option

[remote finch]

oh it's so satisfying to go solo in Hunt and third party the bounty team right at extract

[wild tapir]

The cycle frontier had most closest TTK to marathon btw, but you still can figure how to deal with teams

[soft star]

yeah obviously, that's why i said pve. this pvp game is even less engaging than destiny 2's crucible

[ivory fog]

I never got to play the cycle frontier, idek if its even active

[high orchid]

Marathon will specifically be my first extraction shooter, because I hate how everyone is glazing Arc Raiders.

[soft star]

a campaign would be a big ask but one that is reasonable to make

[ivory fog]

Perfectly fine. It's your choice at the end of the day.

[soft star]

as a consumer, i want that and SP campaigns aren't exactly rocket science to bungie

[torn creek]

it shut down, there is an unnafilliated revive project where u can still play though

[quartz abyss]

no one is just trolls

[remote finch]

Have you played any other extraction shooter for more than 50 hrs, yes or no?

[soft star]

tarkov, 700. why?

[ivory fog]

Kinda like Evolve?

[wild tapir]

Its freaking dead 😭

[nova fiber]

What are you smoking? Can I have some? "Lets just make a campaign"

[remote finch]

fair enough I guess, but really doesn't seem like it from what you've been saying.

[young storm]

dead live service games will usually have private servers usually running by some diehards so yea like evolve

[ivory fog]

I meant in the sense of a revive project.

[torn creek]

i suppose

[quartz abyss]

in the sense

[soft star]

witch queen happened and it was nice. final shape is okay from the looks of things too. i'm smoking destiny 2 if anything

[torn creek]

it has picked up decent traction though

[nova fiber]

I did get hooked on evolve for like a week or two

[torn creek]

they are working on creating new maps and stuff which is cool

[remote finch]

ah okay. destiny fan mad they're not getting destiny 3. Makes sense.

[nova fiber]

that sounded better in your head I think

[wild tapir]

Not only for you, Marathon and ARC is kinda gonna be first extraction shooter aswell for many people, because of Console release. And its probably one of many things why they both will survive after release

[soft star]

quite possibly, yeah. i'm not sure why people are reacting so negatively, maybe i really am saying something stupid. also no, i played way less destiny than tarkov

[young storm]

send em to destiny rising

[nova fiber]

I do love that the D2 players who hate on the game constantly have like 10k hours and shidded and cried at the gates to the marathon alpha

[primal plinth]

So my question is, is the exact same team working on this as destiny? Or is this a A and B team kinda thing?

[remote finch]

so many people watched clueless destiny players shoot robots in the alpha and go 'this must suck'

[nova fiber]

A-B i think

[sour bobcat]

destiny players when the pvp is the game and not an optional side thing that makes you complain relentlessly

[soft star]

why shouldn't i complain about a mediocre pvp game looking mediocre?

[remote finch]

to be real af I tried destiny a few times and it sucked

[nova fiber]

Who are you replying to?

[remote finch]

like go replay halo trust me

[toxic rapids]

I have 2 thousand hours in the game. Yeah, yeah it does suck.

[nocturne gate]

Destiny is most fun in its dungones and raids, and it seems incapable of onboarding people for the best content in the game

[sour bobcat]

the worst part of destiny multiplayer content is you have to play with destiny players

[remote finch]

That's the thing about extraction shooters, the best content in the game is right there right away.

[primal plinth]

Real

[nova fiber]

Destiny is probably the best feeling shooter (gunplay abilities) out there, enough so to survive much of the rest of the game being crap. Like raids / dungeons are great.

[ivory fog]

Because its fucking expensive.
And yet we all still buy the new content anyway.
It's genuine addiction.

[remote finch]

I had a friend the other night trying to get me to play star citizen, telling me this crazy story about something that happened to him and his friends that was cool af.

[toxic rapids]

I do have to agree that the gun play is addictive.

[magic rose]

the price is not what prevents people from hopping on at all

[sour bobcat]

you are not immune to bullet magnetism propaganda

[nova fiber]

Its the guns and abilities, keeps the whole game alive somehow

[magic rose]

there’s a pretty big chunk of f2p content rn

[remote finch]

But then I asked him-- how long do you gotta play to do stuff like that? and he admitted like hundreds of hrs. I was having fun w/ extraction in Hunt right away telling fun personal stories through gameplay.

[nova fiber]

Is there Bmag in d2?

[magic rose]

yeah

[sour bobcat]

yes lmao

[ivory fog]

I never said that was the only thing preventing people from playing, but yeah.

[nocturne gate]

it is... but ae kinda put a dampner on that, i miss being able to use my sniper mid air becuase pvp players kept crying

[toxic rapids]

Low key, I just need some more build crafting looter shooters.

[soft star]

honestly no, there are plenty of shooters with significantly better feeling gunplay. tarkov beats the absolute shit out of it, i'd rather shoot a toz than most guns in destiny

[nova fiber]

Im on console, so I never knew!

[nocturne gate]

have you considered.... warframe?

[ivory fog]

Warframe fuckin rips, definitely play that

[sour bobcat]

it’s probably on there too. a lot of the weapon skills just straight up make the bullet hitboxes bigger iirc

[leaden solstice]

I have no friends to play it with.

[magic rose]

warframe is like ok

[toxic rapids]

I have, it’s my second favorite looter shooter. Great game.

[nova fiber]

I started warframe, and I got lost during the onboarding so many currencies and missions and stuff. Ive heard its gotten better I might try it again!

[toxic rapids]

And the devs give af

[upper ledge]

Warframe is meh

[nova fiber]

I mean its just like more standard issue on console

[magic rose]

the content island issues of warframe is crazy

[ivory fog]

Neither do I, I stopped playing because I don't know what I'm really supposed to be doing.
I kinda need to be taught 😭

[leaden solstice]

Content island? Explain this.

[nova fiber]

Thats what im saying I got lost af in WF

[amber condor]

I don't think the rest of the game is crap, there's a lot of fun to be had outside of raids and stuff. Problem is they are so slow to put quality of life updates out there. It took way, way too long for them to put changeable patrol difficulties for instance. For years we just ran around popping heads and getting tickled by enemies in patrol, it really made you wonder what the point was

[ivory fog]

I was simply told "fill your star chart" but that simply can't be all there is to it?

[sour bobcat]

why does everything look like it’s wet in warframe

[nocturne gate]

it useually is

[nova fiber]

Dungeons and raids are some of the best content in gaming these days

[primal plinth]

Oh it absolutely is

[toxic rapids]

Real people remember the horror of the weapon crafting glitch. Peak fun.

[nova fiber]

I had a quest objective that didnt have a marker and I was like "where tf do I go and how tf do I get there and what do I do when Im there, nvm why?"

[magic rose]

basically a lot of systems/activities in warframe are pretty self contained and their rewards/resources are kinda irrelevant to everything else

[amber condor]

Now that was fun

[magic rose]

warframe is fun but it has its issues, it’s personally not for me

[ivory fog]

Sometimes it's okay to ask world chat, full of weirdos but the nicer people pop out and help you out.

[leaden solstice]

Hmm. So what you're saying is I couldn't run around as Excalibur for the entire game?

[nova fiber]

I was like in my ship or something but I had no idea what to do

[toxic rapids]

It was the right decision to patch it, but it’s top 10 glitches for me

[spring void]

I've had such an urge lately for a space sim but none of them really scratch the itch. Elite is hampered by being an MMO, X4 moves into being a 4X too quickly, old school stuff like Oolite or Helium Rain don't have the world to immerse myself in... and then star citizen has a tiny world and runs legendarily bad
like holy shit, I get that the game is pretty but it's atrociously optimized
also all the ships I'm interested in are outdated and barely functional :^)

[ivory fog]

Nothing is perfect, and everyone likes what they like, simple

[magic rose]

no lmao, u can run around as excalibur until the game turns into an rpg and u start a new game

[spring void]

(one of which includes the one I bought back in 2016)

[soft star]

more like you'll go into the plains of eidolon and realize it's a literal separate game with no impact on any of the other pieces of warframe content

[nocturne gate]

i've done all content as excal, its toats doeable

[leaden solstice]

That's weird... how's Plains work?

[ivory fog]

I remember getting like, garuda for free and got nezha because of someone I used to hang out with
And that weird roguelike gamemode was pretty fun too

[remote finch]

I love games where you get to take part in epic stories with other players/your friends, but locking it behind so much play time when you're an adult is just such a hard sell for me.

[magic rose]

warframe is a game where instead of the devs making different games for each of their ideas they cobble it all together into one

[nova fiber]

I litterally have no idea what youre talking about ahhahahaha

[leaden solstice]

Nice, nice. So I was right in assuming it's 100% mods that make you stronger, not so much your WArframe.

[spring void]

it's an open world type map with its own faction rep to grind and resources to harvest

[ivory fog]

Basically I got two characters and played a seperate gamemode

[primal plinth]

Get that bag

[ivory fog]

One hell of a place to advertise

[soft star]

it has it's own map, it's own resources, it's own quests, it's own gameplay systems that don't affect say warframe 1999 in any way. literally treating warframe as 5-6 separate games is the correct way to go about it.

[nocturne gate]

diferent warframes do make a chunky difference but yea its mostly mods. each warframe mostly just offers a differnt playstyle barring a few exceptions

[nova fiber]

Report and block em

[spring void]

honestly the "nothing in warframe is connected" criticism isn't as big a deal as people who don't play warframe make it out to be
it just means there's different things to focus on depending on what you want, ultimately you get loot that you can use anywhere
I think the only disconnected part that's actually worse for it is archwing

[magic rose]

warframe is like what an alien thinks a video game is

[glad nimbus]

I recommend Space Reign and House of a Dying Sun, both fantastic

[iron aspen]

yeahp

[sour bobcat]

can you animate yoshi from mario laying an egg and they egg looks stinky (has green lines coming off of it) and yoshi looks embarrassed towards the camera that we saw him do that and also he’s embarrassed that his egg is stinky?

[topaz comet]

did bungie steal your shit too?

[nova fiber]

Im just saying as a new player I had absolutely zero idea what to do

[leaden solstice]

Interesting... I just know I'm gonna need three different Youtube videos and a wiki tab open just to figure it all out.

[spring void]

just follow the questline, warframe actually does a decent job of onboarding

unless you started with duviri
idk why you're allowed to start with duviri, stupid idea on de's part

[ivory fog]

Sometimes it doesn't tell you where to go at all lmao, that or I'm just an idiot

[nova fiber]

I tried, Im saying I didnt have good on boarding, but ok

[soft star]

it won't be THAT bad probably

[magic rose]

i think saying it does a good job of onboarding to someone who just said they felt completely lost is kinda silly 😭

[soft star]

i'll leave this discussion to someone more well versed in how the game is nowadays

[spring void]

I don't mean space shooter I mean space sim, fly around and trade and explore n shit. the space shooting as a part of a larger whole

[magic rose]

“i was lost when i started”
“no they’re good at not letting you get lost!”

[ivory fog]

Very silly

[magic rose]

they don’t even tell u what a warframe is until like 20 hours in or smth like that lol

[spring void]

I mean, the questline tells you what to do and where to go, beyond that you just fill in the starchart. Even the open worlds' quests does a fine job of it, though I'd personally never touch them without an archwing for mobility

[glad nimbus]

Oh, ya, you already mentioned everything else I know of that fits that billet then

[leaden solstice]

The devs at Warframe need to lock in on making early game not feel so overwhelming, instead of making more skins to goon to.

[spring void]

oh right rip forgor no outside emotes

[nocturne gate]

imagine if starfeild was made by a good studio

[nova fiber]

Dude, I was telling you my onboarding was a fucking mess and you responded "no it wasnt"

[magic rose]

shut up i don’t care don’t diminish people’s experiences because you think the company does a good job at it, they’re not gonna notice u man

[ivory fog]

What the fuck is an archwing?

[iron aspen]

lol

[soft star]

SHMUP minigame. don't ask

[magic rose]

yeah actually

[spring void]

I'm talking in general. I can't give you actual advice unless you tell me your specific problems.

[elfin panther]

No mans sky? You might like that

[ivory fog]

They claimed "nuh uh"

[nova fiber]

Theyre still claiming nuh-uh

[ivory fog]

I can see that

[magic rose]

warframe does a lot right but lets not pretend that new player experience is one of those lmao

if u don’t have someone telling u what to do it is not good

[ivory fog]

Hey, some games can pull that off

[magic rose]

oh fs, not warframe

[spring void]

tbf
I haven't done the new player experience in over a decade, I just know what my friends that started much more recently have reported
but ultimately it is a multiplayer and social game so like, ask your friends? for real tho if you told me where you are I can tell you exactly what you need to do and where you need to go lol. "I was on my ship and didn't know what to do" doesn't help me help you.

[magic rose]

OVER A DECADE dude shut up

[nocturne gate]

the best advice i can think of is just, do the starchart and do quests, but i don't think thats particularly helpfull,

[elfin panther]

I just used google or YouTube for everything I was stuck on and it worked

[nova fiber]

I have def put that game down and wont be picking it backup. I was reflecting on my bad experience not lookin for advice. I appreciate this comment tho. YALL HE UNDERSTANDS HE BEEFED IT LETS CHILL

[spring void]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-wf-warframe-1999-arthur-typing-gif-6592871700210600734

[ivory fog]

Shrimple

[spring void]

oh right no gifs here
stupid fucking embed rules

[nova fiber]

People were abusing it hard so no more gifs, sadge

[proud glade]

they were posting their "dacs"

[spring void]

could be worse tho
I once got told to end my own existence because I said I bounced off ffxiv before level 20 lul

[ivory fog]

Anyone here fw vampire survivors

[nocturne gate]

hell yea

[nova fiber]

IM GONNA HACK YOUR DAC

[strong sequoia]

did bungie get nuked yet?

[proud glade]

garlic op do not @ me

[ivory fog]

Garlic Gang‼️

[spring void]

wouldn't it suck if you were an italian vampire and couldn't eat garlic anymore
that'd be fucked up

[nova fiber]

I basically has a stroke getting to the true ending and I just was done, dopamine received. great game. scary what a lotto machine developer can do to a person

[misty estuary]

nsfw channel yet?

[proud glade]

no

[pallid shoal]

what the mainstay in the top 25 concurrent players on steam alone Destiny 2 studio Bungie owned by Sony?

[ivory fog]

I'm still relatively new, theres a true ending?

[magic rose]

edating channel when

[proud glade]

mf the true ending??
i haven't played in like 6 months what happened

[ivory fog]

Among us collab exists

[proud glade]

yeah I know about that

[ivory fog]

And castlevania
And contra

[proud glade]

did not know about that one

[nocturne gate]

contra weapons are el BUSTO

[ivory fog]

Theres also a new dlc thats free

I bought all the dlc lmao

[proud glade]

no

[nova fiber]

Theres like a crazy FUCKING NUT BUST at the end. Skip to 10min or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFzXlWvCTw

[ivory fog]

Sorry but the vampire is in another coffin

[proud glade]

none of you know the pain of getting the reaper pre-red laurel

[ivory fog]

Yeah you gotta grind for the laurel and clock lancet evo, but its so satisfying to kill him

[proud glade]

I DID IT BEFORE THE CLOCK LANCET EVO AND LAUREL EVO

[nova fiber]

You fool

[proud glade]

runetracer my beloved

[ivory fog]

Ahh I know what you did

[ivory fog]

King Bible + Garlic + The evolved peachone..

[proud glade]

oh wait this is the true ending?
i did this

[ivory fog]

No im just saying I like those

[nova fiber]

I just called it that idk

[candid talon]

https://wccftech.com/the-us-federal-trade-commission-v-microsoft-over-the-activision-blizzard-deal-has-come-to-an-end-the-ftc-officially-drops-the-case/

Oh shi

[proud glade]

i got limit break

[candid talon]

Welp Microsoft got everything

[ivory fog]

I think I just got limit break, I haven't even started the dlc yet

[potent pawn]

Imagine a world where we could play marathon instead of vampire survivors

I mean you could actually play both but still

[pallid shoal]

worst timeline

the world needed vampire surivivors more than marathon

[kindred vigil]

cookie clicker actually

[gaunt solar]

oh, this chat still active

[pallid shoal]

i gave cookie clicker a couple years but wow that was like 8 years ago now, i don't have the creds to my bakery anymore

[gaunt solar]

lol

[ivory fog]

Vampire survivors on one screen, cookie clicker on another one, and breaking bad on the tv

[kindred vigil]

2025 dopamine rush

[pallid shoal]

we're talking about good games that you can play today, it's fun

[gaunt solar]

i just rewatching Arc Raiders streams

[pallid shoal]

i'm sorry that must be really hard

[gaunt solar]

why? didn't get joke

[ivory fog]

I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream is a good one if you're into those kinds of games

[pallid shoal]

just seems like a lonely way to spend a friday, watching other people play games you can't

[vocal trellis]

Always has been

[wild tapir]

Go play Look Outside - my 2025 game so far

[gaunt solar]

uh... passive agression there... ok

[kindred vigil]

boring, the j*b dlc is the worst

[ivory fog]

House Flipper 2 🔥

[kindred vigil]

Don't get me started on the "sh*wering" mini game

[ivory fog]

Death Stranding?

[proud glade]

im steven

[ivory fog]

See Daryl Dixons bare naked ass.

[kindred vigil]

But do you have a universe? Didn't THINK so....

[wild tapir]

Very strange dlc that 80% part of the game

[ivory fog]

I'd get stoned and do that lmao

[proud glade]

raw garlic too

just straight garlic

[ivory fog]

Two words
Garlic
Bread

[proud glade]

no bread

there will be only garlic

[ivory fog]

No Floor Chickens? :(

[magic rose]

expedition 33

[proud glade]

33 garlics

[leaden solstice]

Absolute Peak Food Choice.

[pallid shoal]

almost enough garlics

[quartz abyss]

ew

[pallid shoal]

maybe eat the garlic bread first

[proud glade]

if someone garlic'd i would garlic

[leaden solstice]

Hell yeah.

I mean, I wouldn't, but hell yeah.

[ivory fog]

If garlic is garlic... then.. garlic?

[steady hatch]

🫃

[magic rose]

@green valley hiiii (i’m rsl man shhh)

[ivory fog]

This is why garlic.

[leaden solstice]

You should play Rocket League.

[magic rose]

yall haven’t had a good garlic bread and it shows

[ivory fog]

^^^^^^

[proud glade]

you should play garlic league

[ivory fog]

Yes

[zealous cosmos]

y'all should try rematch when the next playtest drops

[wild tapir]

You should play Party Animals

[ivory fog]

Yes

[zealous cosmos]

wait thats true

[leaden solstice]

Yes. I have that game.

[zealous cosmos]

wruf!

[leaden solstice]

Holy moly, how many people does Arachne know???

[ivory fog]

Goodbye chat

[proud glade]

you should play parlic garlic

[pallid shoal]

spiders really ought to be the dominant species on this planet after humans, we blew our shot

[leaden solstice]

Someone hasn't played Splatoon.

[wild tapir]

Garlic phone 🫃

[zealous cosmos]

wait wsg

das crazy

[magic rose]

aruff

[leaden solstice]

I know bro from the Armored Core discord. We've played FA on occasion.

[pallid shoal]

fool i love being bad at splatoon

[magic rose]

splatoon 🤢

[proud glade]

i played splatoon
all 3 of them

[leaden solstice]

She kicks my ass, but yeah.

[zealous cosmos]

I know every trans woman

[magic rose]

don’t clown me i’ve put in my hours

[leaden solstice]

False. That's impossible.

[proud glade]

I CONDEMN YOU TO 3 HOURS OF UMBRELLA GAMEPLAY

[magic rose]

i was the #1 ranked brella player pre buff don’t @ me

[leaden solstice]

Why are they lying?

[proud glade]

14 NERFS

[pallid shoal]

pain olympics gold medal winner starri

[magic rose]

no i’m actually not i used to play competitively

[quartz abyss]

ew

[magic rose]

where do you think @ skalop is from?

[leaden solstice]

Wait fr? You've got more mental fortitude than me, crodie.

[zealous cosmos]

I dunno it feels like every time I hop in a random discord I'm running into someone who knows a trans woman I know

have yet to meet a trans woman I don't know

[leaden solstice]

Also, I did not know Arachne was trans. New lore unlocked I guess.

[magic rose]

skalop is a splat brand for you non knowers in chat

[zealous cosmos]

wait hold up

[quartz abyss]

skip

[leaden solstice]

All I know is Toni Kensa. All others are irrelevant.

[magic rose]

u don’t know game and it shows

brellas walked so glaives can run

[leaden solstice]

I'd say run it, but I learned my lesson the last time. How many hours you got?

[quartz abyss]

https://www.google.com/maps

[magic rose]

i haven’t played in years i am not touching splatoon

[zealous cosmos]

idk I know Arachne thru a server with a lotta trans women but now that u mention it I shouldn't like forgo the conclusion ya feel

[magic rose]

splat 4 with mouse controls will probably entice me back tho icl

[quartz abyss]

https://www.google.com/maps

[leaden solstice]

I see.

[zealous cosmos]

https://wikipedia.gov/maps

[leaden solstice]

I feel like more and more I'm coming across more trans people, whether IRL or online. Wonder why that is.

[quartz abyss]

its bc https://www.google.com/maps

[magic rose]

woke mind virus

[quartz abyss]

https://www.google.com/maps

[leaden solstice]

Obvious virus is obvious.

[oak elbow]

@zealous cosmos disgusting 🤮🤢

[zealous cosmos]

it's bc I wash all my used estrogen patches down the kitchen sink

[pallid shoal]

bluesky isn't scratching the itch maybe

[zealous cosmos]

wait what'd I do

[quartz abyss]

CHICKEN JOCKEYY

[leaden solstice]

I don't use Bluesky all to that often; the last time I did was to read a thread regarding Philly getting wrecked in the wake of the Eagle's win.

[normal juniper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58OvOO6CiWA

[magic rose]

philly wasn’t really wrecked this time around but yeah

that was a fun day

[leaden solstice]

Either way, the pigs were stressin hard.

Yeah, that's what the thread was about.

[quartz abyss]

huh

[magic rose]

i would die for my country philadelphia

[quartz abyss]

wooder instead of water

[leaden solstice]

Things cannot be that serious blawg 😭

[zealous cosmos]

yinzer spotted

[magic rose]

nobody rlly says this, up northeast they do but i dont see it often

[zealous cosmos]

engaging pole greasers

[magic rose]

that’s pittsburgh you simpleton

[leaden solstice]

Holy jargon pull.

[magic rose]

northeast philly**

[zealous cosmos]

idk Philly is the one with the weird elevator right

[magic rose]

what 😭

@oak elbow ?

[zealous cosmos]

tha funicular

[reef sleet]

no it is the place where crazy people fight eachother all the time

[candid talon]

Someone farted in the elevator I'm in

[leaden solstice]

The what??

[magic rose]

sure

[zealous cosmos]

the funicular

[oak elbow]

It was @magic rose

[candid talon]

It smell like broccoli

[leaden solstice]

Damn, the slandering is insane.

[zealous cosmos]

fav Philly sports team?

[magic rose]

eagles

[candid talon]

I'm gross? Bro i think i got a mouthful i did not wanna start work like this

[zealous cosmos]

gotta be the penguins for me

[leaden solstice]

GTFO

[zealous cosmos]

ok ok ur right

[leaden solstice]

No penguins fans allowed.

[zealous cosmos]

gotta be the pirates

[oak elbow]

@quartz abyss I like rocket league do you like rocket league? 🙂

[candid talon]

Speaking of GTFO did that game ever come out of early access?

That was lethal company before lethal company lmao

[zealous cosmos]

not me tho right twin?

[oak elbow]

Thats not very nice

[leaden solstice]

What did I do 😭

[marble cave]

We backkkm

[oak elbow]

Thanks me too

[candid talon]

My soul sparkles and shimmers, i got a glam bake goin on in my soul i dunno who u talkin bout but its not me

[proud glade]

hi guys

[zealous cosmos]

distinctly noticing that I'm not being reassured rn

[leaden solstice]

Lmao the hard ignore.

[oak elbow]

@quartz abyss

[zealous cosmos]

I promise I know the difference between Pittsburgh and Philly it was jus bait guys I prommy

👽

[ember crater]

its just bait should be the tagline of this channel

[flat depot]

Frtscbu

[zealous cosmos]

🥺

[manic seal]

gm marathon general chat can't wait to login and play as john marathon and schut

[pallid shoal]

i want to play a game where i'm john marathon and i have all of john marathon's power

[median trail]

The lion does not concern himself with the few drops of pee that got on his boxers at the urinal even when he did a few shakes just to be sure.

[dark yoke]

You can it’s free on steam

[pallid shoal]

i got my aleph one from the farmers who grew it thanks

[sick wyvern]

Aleph….

[pallid shoal]

the snake eats its tail

[sick wyvern]

????

[clever bluff]

The risky fart poops

[pallid shoal]

snake isn't having a good time, it wants help but cannot ask for it

[zealous cosmos]

I thought this was a discord for like uninterrupted episodes of my favorite shows

[clever bluff]

Sadge

[hardy flower]

Whats going on in this game? anymore playtest or a release date?

[fallow glacier]

DOA is what's going to happen

[leaden solstice]

Who knows at this point.

[hardy flower]

Nice

[pallid shoal]

bungie and sony were probably discussing that all week, latest word is all their plans are cancelled until they rebuild their strategy, launch date hasn't been changed yet

[gray minnow]

too far off topic ...

[pallid shoal]

not like there's anything new to say about marathon this week

[meager leaf]

June 6th 😈

[candid talon]

Next fest?