🗣marathon-general-chat

[bleak thistle]

wrong. kojima

[main prism]

kojima is an anomoly

[bleak thistle]

also miyazaki

[still oasis]

carmack

[merry geyser]

Kojima is the goat

[bleak thistle]

also todd howard he has fucked up alot recently but he is very smart

[main prism]

let me rephrase: no genius chooses to make games for another company and/or a salary

[merry geyser]

Naw

[still oasis]

i just think it’s funny when people are like oh no you should have listened to jane habernathy in qa pete parsons

[upper storm]

that dudes brain is mush, don't bother

[main prism]

smart in the negative way

[bleak thistle]

I mean you can say that but he made some of the most influental games ever

[merry geyser]

Exactly the reason why the lead dev for expedition 33 left Ubisoft

[main prism]

hence my statement

[bleak thistle]

im talking overall accomplishments he has alot

[balmy steppe]

@velvet harbor

[main prism]

like fallout and skyrim?

[dim breach]

None of this would have happened if they had just given me an invite to the Alpha.

[merry geyser]

Does the mods in this server care anymore about the anarchy here? Everyone’s hating on bungie lmao for good reason tho

[bleak thistle]

hammerfell using graphics tech in a pc for the first time ever, oblivion, skyrim

[still oasis]

look what you made me do

[merry geyser]

F

[main prism]

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you miss every shot you dont take

[candid talon]

Kojima and I had an affair

[round cape]

All you had to do was audit the damn art CJ!

[bleak thistle]

and fallout

[main prism]

they only care if you mention that one random word that's banned

[round cape]

Piggy? Porker? Bacon? Javalina?

[candid talon]

what one?

[merry geyser]

They need to save money Pete wants a new car 🥺

[main prism]

so close

[bleak thistle]

I mean the devs hate the suits that are making them do dumb shit too

[primal flicker]

What did it use for the first time?

[main prism]

stop talking shit pete's cars will get their feelings hurt

[candid talon]

anyway bungie trivia time, what is the name of the 4 wheel'd vehicle introduced in halo 1 and has remained in every installment since

[still oasis]

they used to ban people for saying antireal was right so they got slapped and now they have to go through the plagiarism department before they can click buttons

[main prism]

banshee

[merry geyser]

Lmaooooo

[bleak thistle]

a graphics card

[candid talon]

oo so close

[primal flicker]

The w­ar­t­h­o­g

[main prism]

damn

[main prism]

the scorpion or some shit

[primal flicker]

oops wrong reply

[candid talon]

damn they dont ban for that word anymore?

[spice salmon]

nobody forced them to rip that person off tho lol

[merry geyser]

Guys I have class in 8 mins and I’m stuck on the toilet

[still oasis]

i was like that seems like a mean nickname lmao

[main prism]

no one said shit when the person was ripped off either

[merry geyser]

Fighting for my life

[main prism]

your full name is insult enough

[candid talon]

pull it out by the tail like you're the crocodile hunter

[prime wigeon]

If it releases it will make 150 million in 2025 if they dont hold back on the content and such

[bleak thistle]

yes the suits did lmao they the ones that did the shit lmao did you not read the whole thing

[main prism]

this projection is crazy

[merry geyser]

They will hold back on content tho

[still oasis]

eh, it’s what i got from my mother and father. lovely people all told

[timber osprey]

Best i can do is 2 dollars

[main prism]

unfortunately

[merry geyser]

They have lots of assets they need to redesign cuz of the massive fuck up

[still oasis]

why you mad

[main prism]

just change the logos on the boxes easy

[spice salmon]

The art director is not a suit lmao

[candid talon]

yeah i think they should just rework the game lol entirely

[clever root]

The banned word is a vehicle that shares the same animal name as someone in Simba's entourage.

[main prism]

he do be in a suit tho

[main prism]

PUMBA THANK YOU

[candid talon]

yeah!

[merry geyser]

And it’s bungie so the content is gonna be locked behind a 30$ pay wall with a content drop every 4 months

[bleak thistle]

the art director is directly told what to do by corporate

[spice salmon]

why would that word be banned? lol

[main prism]

all my homies hate corporate

[main prism]

ask the devs

[bleak thistle]

bro does not know what a board of directors is @spice salmon

[spice salmon]

I kinda dont believe you, that would mean they WILLINGLY uploaded a trailer with stolen art rofl

[merry geyser]

And when the playerbase dies they will have a big content drop made out of cut assets and release it for 60$

[main prism]

they also did a whole ass alpha with those assets mind you

[merry geyser]

Just how the founding fathers intended

[timber osprey]

If the game isnt a live service pvp extract slop shooter and focused on pve and story instead like what they did with destiny it might be good. If its solely a pvp extract shooter cash grab its competing against all the other extraction shooters in which case it will fail

[still oasis]

gaaaah i hate corporate aaaggaaahhh i hate earning over 100k a year

[round cape]

Jesus

[bleak thistle]

who do you think greenlit the trailer ding dong

[main prism]

bro is mad that people make less than 100k

[prime wigeon]

Nah just make sure that they put in preorder bonus. Preorder marathon and get marathon theme exclusive cosmetic armor that can be used in d2.

[spice salmon]

someone who A) didnt know the art was stolen
or, alternatively
B) was literally trying to sabotage the game

Pretty much the only two options lol

[main prism]

preorder this game and get 3 star wars skins

[merry geyser]

Im a broke ahh student and I earn less than 100k a year do I just off myself gng?

[still oasis]

naw but if their skill ceiling is higher they can step up

[round cape]

I think it'll be a Bungie Edition, higher than Deluxe, that comes with the D2 loot

[main prism]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

[echo shuttle]

Nah you have to see how crazy marathon is going to be

[bleak thistle]

yes exactly the suits dont care about games so they didnt care its a management issue

[round cape]

????

[prime wigeon]

Well bungie needs to do this and learn from epic fortnites ecosystem

[bleak thistle]

it would have never happened if the higher ups cared

[spice salmon]

They didn't care about..... a MASSIVE civil liability? Cap lol

[prime wigeon]

Of live service synergy

[main prism]

GET TWILIGHT GARRISON WITH THIS BUNGIE EDITION PREORDER PACKAGE

[prime wigeon]

Rocket league, fortnite, lego fortnite etc

[spice salmon]

A MASSIVE civil liability issue is one of the only things suits WOULD ever care about lmao

[bleak thistle]

I think your giving bungie too much credit theyve had issues like this multiple times with different devs

[main prism]

what makes you think they care

[round cape]

Nah probably a Locus Titan thief warlock and void hunter

[prime wigeon]

They lift each other up and are stronger together

[spice salmon]

about money?

[bleak thistle]

then why did they let it happen? doesnt really make sense your logic here

[main prism]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-disgusted-ishowspeed-ishowspeed-disgusted-ishowspeed-eww-ishowspeed-reaction-gif-14215297101645701956

[round cape]

@heady sleet

[main prism]

LMFAOOO you think that's a factor

[spice salmon]

The money isn't a factor in the executive leaderships decisions at Bungie? Lmao

[merry geyser]

Can’t Sony just intervene at this point and boot atleast Pete

[round cape]

Why is PlayMA on in discord rn

[main prism]

that's for the finance department, not the directors

[bleak thistle]

I hope sony restructers and gets rid of all the suits before the layoffs happen

[spice salmon]

Ok, you're 15. Good luck out there.

[still oasis]

they'll have to get rid of all the bad hires the suits made too

[main prism]

didn't sony say that they wanted bungie to do something first and then try to restructure if things don't work out

[merry geyser]

Lay offs can happen for the writers and artists

[still oasis]

gotta reset the whole rot

[merry geyser]

Fuck those guys

[bleak thistle]

I dont think you got what I was typing

[merry geyser]

Yeah they did but look at the state of bungie rn

[round cape]

WTF did the writers do

[main prism]

you think the board of directors cares about paying???? all they care about is making the damn money however they can and abandon ship when it starts leaking

[spice salmon]

Try and follow the conversation if you gonna respond, you have no idea what we're even talkin about lol.

[main prism]

don't think it's large enough a performance dip to restructure currently

[still oasis]

i'm sure they'll take that opinion under advisement

[bleak thistle]

sony has said they want to restructure the management multiple times nows the time to do it so the creatives do NOT get laid off

[main prism]

they will be anyway tho

[spice salmon]

You just told me money wasn't a factor, rofl.

[main prism]

paying out is not, flowing in however, is. jeez do you know how these things work or not

[spice salmon]

Yeah, you're 15.

[bleak thistle]

yeah unless a restructure happens the creative team at bungie is great its a severe management issue

[main prism]

(btw everything i say in here is not based on facts because that would be too correct)

[main prism]

unfortunately

[main prism]

wrong by a long shot but ok

[round cape]

He's ten!

[bleak thistle]

and your kind of snobby imma keep it a rack you say things as if your right and everyone else is dumb but I dont think you know what your talking about either

[main prism]

tread carefully we're deep in those waters with these

[main prism]

raw

[main prism]

everything he says is right everyone else is wrong that's just how the world works man keep up

[bleak thistle]

lmao

[spice salmon]

The position I took was: the executive leadership of Bungie cares about money, to which this clown responded "money isn't a factor" but ok tell me more about your super interesting and informed world view

They only care about.... the players, then? Lmao

[bleak thistle]

lmao wasnt talking about that was talking about the convo you had with me and you constantly pointing out someones age...

[main prism]

who tf cares about money if they shipped a whole test product out in the public lmfaoooooooooooooo absolute gem of a thought

[main prism]

sounds like a self report to me

[spice salmon]

????????????????? you see? lmao

[main prism]

this dude has 0 brain cells

[bleak thistle]

money is all they care about but the issue is a management one not a dev one

[main prism]

why you mad

[bleak thistle]

the devs are good the suits are not

[worthy swan]

love each other

[still oasis]

naw the devs are bad too

[spice salmon]

you're literally saying two contradictory things back to back over and over rofl

[fervent smelt]

the more this conversation keeps going the more I hate it

[main prism]

what am i saying absolem

[spice salmon]

Yeah, it's both, lol.

[main prism]

why are you here

[bleak thistle]

same issue with ubisoft the devs are great the corpos suck proven by expedition 33

[spice salmon]

"who tf cares about money?" "all they care about is money"

[main prism]

when did i say that second one

[fervent smelt]

to watch idiots bicker about age and stuff

[still oasis]

like imagine working at bungie rn polishing your resume thinking "man should I just leave the bungie part off"

[main prism]

why would you tho

[bleak thistle]

bro just wants to be a contrarian lmao stop responding to the arguing guy

[main prism]

mmmmmm good choice welcome in to gen chat

[spice salmon]

Here

[still oasis]

not the best reputation

[round cape]

Anybody able to login to D2 rn?

[main prism]

do you know the difference between positive and negative or are those concepts too complex for you

[bleak thistle]

they cant do shit in a toxic work environment the devs are very good the directors and suits force them to make certain moves wheather they like it or not

[main prism]

fair enough but if your time there is significant wouldn't you want to mention your skill sets that were developed there??

[still oasis]

they are the toxic work environment lmao

[spice salmon]

projection lmao

[main prism]

can't be worse than blizzard activision

[still oasis]

yeah atvi sucks too

[main prism]

projections are difficult concepts too, can you grasp those?

[bleak thistle]

did you not read any of the shit recently? thats not how a toxic work environment works its a top down problem

[main prism]

not necessarily

[still oasis]

nah how it works is shitty management hires even shittier lower-downs and then the whole company is full of garbage

[main prism]

do you know anything about vector projections or are you just dumb

[spice salmon]

If anything the devs are more guilty than the execs on this one.

[bleak thistle]

most of the devs are not new hires

[main prism]

this is real

[spice salmon]

15 confirmed

[main prism]

if you find a 15 year old who knows vector projections in PCA you should find a gas station and get a lotto ticket

[bleak thistle]

blaming the devs is a good way to make sure more people get laid off thats honestly an insane take

[spice salmon]

you are incredibly cringe, youre on the block list

[main prism]

just dissolve the studio

[bleak thistle]

wanting people to lose their jobs because of shitty business decisions of suits and boards

[still oasis]

down to the mines with them

[bleak thistle]

the devs dont tell the higher ups what to do

[spice salmon]

This is like 95% on the art team lol

[worthy swan]

sometimes you need to moderate your own experience on the internet

[bleak thistle]

so we have less games and more chances of monopolies

[spice salmon]

It wasnt the board of directors that followed the artist's instagram, and included their work to a texture sheet unattributed, that was the art team, lol.

[bleak thistle]

that was the art DIRECTOR

[spice salmon]

Yeah... who leads the art team, genius

[still oasis]

the team too

[bleak thistle]

WHICH WOULD MEAN HES THE MANAGEMENT ISSUE

[still oasis]

and he hired poorly, because he sucks

[spice salmon]

The art director is not the board of the directors, lmao. That's not what that term means

That's not what anyone means when they say "suits"

[bleak thistle]

he is one of the higher ups tho which was the main thing I was complaining about

[still oasis]

yah the bod is the ceo's boss; the director of art is like 2-3 levels under the ceo

[bleak thistle]

I have said multiple different things which in combination are part of the problem

[spice salmon]

The art director would not be considered a "suit" unless they also happened to have a stake in the company, which is possible I guess.

[subtle tulip]

🫃

[bleak thistle]

I didnt just say suits tho did I

[spice salmon]

No but I did, which is what you're repsonding to rofl

[bleak thistle]

I said suits higher ups and boards of directors

[still oasis]

honestly the only capable people in bungie rn are the board of directors because they're recently all sony controlled

[spice salmon]

I get it, you liked Halo, me too, but this is on the devs lol

[ancient fern]

🫃 💯

[spice salmon]

Honestly they should just pay to license her entire portfolio from that time period, and then hire her, lol.

[bleak thistle]

ok I think you need to read up on the article or watch the moist critical video or sum cause one of the main issues was the devs trying to make the game good but the higher ups forcing them to make it a pvp only game

it is very clearly a management issue if you read the entire thing

[still oasis]

idk they could have stolen from better

[spice salmon]

And how does that even remotely relate to unattributed art in a texture sheet? Lol

[still oasis]

like even that is a skill issue

[primal flicker]

If its available for licensing. She totally has the right to say: Pay me for your unauthorized use, and you are not authorized to use any of my assets ever.

[bleak thistle]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE ENTIRE CONTROVERSY IS ABOUT THAT AND A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS

[spice salmon]

Of course, I agree. But that's the only offer that would make it right with me if I was the artist lol. Otherwise it's lawyerin time.

Put me on payroll and I have zero deadlines, lmao.

[bleak thistle]

but yeah you defo need to read up some more man their is alot of stuff you missed

[spice salmon]

but yeah you defo have no point

[bleak thistle]

no you just cant read

[spice salmon]

anyways, enjoy your flop game, see ya in ARC

[rich abyss]

https://x.com/Rahll/status/1833930029677388060 OMFG

[bleak thistle]

I defo have a point you just didnt read it im not defending the game im saying poor management is what cooked it

[still oasis]

yeah, bad management and bad devs

[bleak thistle]

yeah dude its happened like 5 times

[bleak thistle]

real arc looks fun heres to hopping I get in the alpha

beta whatever the fuck its called

early playing the game

[crude haven]

hi

[trim summit]

hoi

[bleak thistle]

yeah ive heard its really awesome

dude their have been so many banger games the past 5 years

[bleak thistle]

some rough releases but also things like baldurs gate

[winter sundial]

i know theres been a lot going on, but ive heard of more upcoming playtests. does anyone know when they might be

[still oasis]

the problem with baldurs gate is that it over delivered

[winter sundial]

very helpful thank you. its been like a week im honestly tired of the bashing

[bleak thistle]

I thought that before i played it you should try it even if you dont like turnbased games its awesome

I will say it seems like even if this game didnt have any of the issues people would have said it was bad anyways

[winter sundial]

not interested

[still oasis]

no if it was good people would say it’s good

[bleak thistle]

yeah people said it was ass when the first trailer came out cause the " characters werent hot"

[winter sundial]

mods send 1500 volts through this guy

[bleak thistle]

it looked great and most of the creators I watched play said it was fun but needed some more story beats or antother mode. then the new stuff came out

and well yeah

what are you doing in the arc raiders chat is crazy

[gleaming bough]

[bleak thistle]

I could send you a list im not gunna but yes people said it looked cool but needed more most of my streamer buddies where enjoying it but said it needed some more sauce

[winter sundial]

cant bother to spend the time to get your own opinion but can spend plenty of time shitting on the game in the discord mods up it to 2500

[nova whale]

Being as generous as possible to Bungie it was never meant to be public snd just a test maybe for network and some mechanics. But somehow their hand was forced and people saw a half finished build and weren’t impressed

[winter sundial]

youre clearly in here because you were either interested or youre just here to hate which isnt constructive

[wild tapir]

More like Poo raiders 😡

[nova whale]

Their nickname is the giveaway. The troll message for the playMA

[bleak thistle]

I mean as it stands the game is in a terrible place and if it doesnt have some serious changes it will do poorly due to horrible management

[nova whale]

Delay for a year “it’s a marathon not a sprint” and give it some real love like when halo infinite was delayed for a year

[bleak thistle]

im gunna act like you didnt jus say halo infinite was good

[rancid veldt]

halo infinite IS good

[bleak thistle]

game needs to be delayed for sure

[nova whale]

Campaign was 6/10, gameplay was 11/10 it was mid game

[winter sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSVZGaFZS_U idk if this will embed or get taken down immediately but this is a cool vid

[bleak thistle]

you are high halo infinite campaign was a 6/10 and the multiplayer was a 4/10

[rancid veldt]

shut up, kiddo

[winter sundial]

"Ex-Bungie Designer analyzes Marathon Alpha game design"

[nova whale]

I said it was given extra love not that it was good fyi

[bleak thistle]

buddy I probably played halo when you were in your dads balls

[bleak thistle]

so real lmao

[nova whale]

2001 veteran?

[bleak thistle]

closer to halo reach and 3 so like 2010ish I guess

[wet herald]

Alright but how many 50s did you fellas have in H3, that's the real question

How are we doing in here?

[nova whale]

I was 9 in 2001 so I am grizzled ancient indeed

[valid stone]

How many 90s have you cranked in Fortnite?

[bleak thistle]

im 22 so I didnt play the first 2 but halo is great

[waxen minnow]

Forbnite amog our

[wet herald]

Tons

They call me 90sCranker

[bleak thistle]

i keep getting called unc by these damn zoomers and gen alphaers

[winter sundial]

omg i love fortnite my favorite part was when ai darth vader said the n word

[nova whale]

Same bro

[wet herald]

I'm 29 bruh, you are not unc

[nova whale]

Because we are unc

[waxen minnow]

Stop being so old then

[meager leaf]

We got an arc raider release date before they have figured out who stole the art 💀

[wet herald]

I may be 29 but I'll still take any H3 1v1

[winter sundial]

first name ex, last name dev

[bleak thistle]

lmao I like how the dude earlier said shush buddy untill I hit him with the halo line then he bailed

[bleak thistle]

the management team told them to use it im sure

[nova whale]

What was your lone wolves rank? 35 I got to

[valid stone]

Everyone always reveal their true colors when you drop deep cut lines from halo on them

[winter sundial]

you think the execs know wtf an asset is?

[bleak thistle]

yes

[wet herald]

Fiddy, in LW, MLG, doubles and SWAT.

[winter sundial]

bold of you to have so much faith in them

[bleak thistle]

the art director is the one who did it im pretty sure

[nova whale]

You’d wipe the floor with my ass

1.27kd id rocking

[valid stone]

He did it in the conservatory with the shovel

[wet herald]

We are uncs together, you're my doubles partner

[winter sundial]

im being facetious i mean it in more of a "the execs dont give af if you steal art until it effects them financially" type thing

[bleak thistle]

I just played the campaign pretty much in halo I was a toxic little shit with a sniper and shotgun lmao

[nova whale]

35 I hit in doubles too

[bleak thistle]

w

unc mode hell yeah brother

[wet herald]

I miss grinding 50s. I was fkin middle school doing that

[bleak thistle]

I miss staying up till 3am and playing halo as a kid lmao

[nova whale]

I was like 15-16 the summer before girls and partying ha

[wet herald]

H3 is peak man, I sweat quite a bit on Infinite as well. Onyx quite a few times, never felt rewarding because the rewards were ass

[bleak thistle]

yeah dude infinite is a joke man

[nova whale]

If my home phone rang it cut out the internet so I lost so many exp man

[wet herald]

Little trinkets or whatever for guns. Total garbage imo

[wet herald]

Dial up huh, these kids don't know about that

America Online. Good times.

[signal ermine]

God you remember rotary phones.

[nova whale]

I’d mega fomo for all the cosmetics year 1 but I’m tired boss. Just deleted it last year never went back

[bleak thistle]

glad I was born at near the begining of the internet in 2002 lmao

[bleak thistle]

so real

[wet herald]

Born after the towers fell huh.. ZOOMER!

[valid stone]

you haven’t lived if you didn’t start a 120 mb game download at night and then wake up in the morning to find it failed dial up horror

[bleak thistle]

yep im one of the old zoomers 2002 hell yeah brother

[nova whale]

It was actually broadband but the house was old I think the phone lines were all corroded old copper

[wet herald]

Live it out homie , you're in your best years

[bleak thistle]

man I wish dude im in the generation of getting ghosted by the american dream lmfao

[nova whale]

My dad always says; life is good and then you die.

[bleak thistle]

not that it ever existed but still

[bleak thistle]

sure am trying to tho lol

[nova whale]

White picket fences, oppression of women and minorities. It was in fact a nightmare

[wet herald]

I caught a big break when I was 22, started working for the government, finally started making some serious money. Grind it out, get a sweet remote job, work that 401k, Roth IRA and just vibe out

[bleak thistle]

yep so real

[bleak thistle]

im rolling the dice on makin content and bartending till I make it

[nova whale]

Everywhere has its problems though I’m Irish living in Australia for 7 years. Every where same issues; cost of living and affordable housing and healthcare

[wet herald]

I like it

[sick carbon]

Sounds like the government trim that is needed

[wet herald]

I'm private now, trim all ya want!

[bleak thistle]

what is this guy yappin about

[waxen minnow]

No idea

[bleak thistle]

hell yeah brother

[wet herald]

DOGE or somethin like that , I don't keep up with politics, gets in the way of my money

[nova whale]

DOGE is barely doing a haircut while pentagon can’t pass an audit and defence wants a 60% bump in the $1TRILLION budget

[bleak thistle]

so real dude so many wierd people worshipping their politician like a false god and yelling at each other

[wet herald]

Pick up a martial art while you're young too, working on my purple in BJJ. Confident id be a brown belt at least if I started at 22

[nova whale]

Divide and conquer. Make us hate each other while they steal out of your back pocket

[bleak thistle]

yeah lmao

[valid stone]

paying attention to politics is a fools game

[nova whale]

Young folks listen to your Uncle

[bleak thistle]

im disabled so im getting into force multipliers

[waxen minnow]

It's just another way for the rich to divide the working class and seperate us

[wet herald]

Multiply that shit, guns are cool af

[bleak thistle]

legit what is happening rn

[bleak thistle]

although they do have some new meds for what I got so I might be hitting the gym in a few years

[valid stone]

what you’re seeing right now is advanced warfare

[nova whale]

It’s a fools game to NOT be across politics. You need to see the ebbs and flows of how the world works. Being politically active is also very important. Voting is important, trust in institutions is importsnt. You don’t want anarchy or revolution because your head will be first on the wall. Small man always loses first

[wet herald]

Fuck the government , focus on your 💰

[bleak thistle]

I mean you should pay attention to it but not make it your personality

[valid stone]

Naw I’ve done it for 20 years and it’s ass and has made my life worse

[waxen minnow]

Voting doesnt do shit for my side, you should still vote but people like me need to focus on starting and joining different groups and orgs to actually do anything

[nova whale]

Get into local politics and run on your values my guy. Be the change you want to see in the world

[wet herald]

This ^ some people are way too involved. It's okay to keep up with geopolitical shit but some people get consumed. What's the point ?

[bleak thistle]

it defo will if you focus on it too much be weary of identity politics

[waxen minnow]

Identity politics don't even mean anything anymore

[bleak thistle]

they are the whole thing now

[valid stone]

identity politics has done nothing but divide along class lines and spoiled the revolution

[nova whale]

The “voting is pointless” argument is exactly why you’re in a quagmire in the US. It’s the apathy people pray on because you only need a majority by 1 vote to win. If you are disenfranchised you always lose and you haven’t used your voice

[bleak thistle]

sounds like you should join mida

[valid stone]

They wouldn’t let me in cuz they said I watched too much asmongold and not enough hasan

[wet herald]

Who's gonna build them worlds tho

[waxen minnow]

Nono, i am still for voting.
But there is no real socialist party in sweden or the US for that matter
So while you still need to vote to not get the far right in, you should still focus on joining local groups and orgs

[bleak thistle]

asmongold in the year of 2025 is insane

local and state level makes the most difference

[wet herald]

Both of them are insufferable

[valid stone]

I’m surprised he’s still alive myself

[waxen minnow]

Also they have a space in political discussion
Knowing how different groups of people have it is mandatory for any meaningful change

[nova whale]

I do t know what words for blocked but being aware is different to being hooked on doom scrolling

[wet herald]

"streaming is harder than a 9 to 5" - Hasan

[bleak thistle]

I think hasan has some pretty good takes for the most part other than a few things then asmon just is wierd and gross and says some stuff that makes sense

[waxen minnow]

That's not at all what he said but okay

[bleak thistle]

he has alot of out of context clips that make him seem bad

[merry geyser]

So why is the name of that car from the old games banned here

[bleak thistle]

yeah he said that quoting someone else and then proceeded to shit on that pov

[valid stone]

poggers

but with an h

[wet herald]

If he actually didnt mean that , I take back the hate, but the dude comes off as a very out of touch streaming dweeb to me.

[bleak thistle]

I used to watch both now I dont really watch either lol

[dark jasper]

who actually watches streamers lol

[merry geyser]

Unemployed people

[bleak thistle]

he gets clipped out of context like 24 7

[waxen minnow]

Hasan while having a lot of shit takes, often gets clipped out of context

[wet herald]

I don't waste my time, I want to play video games, not watch people play video games. Politics, even less.

[bleak thistle]

idk man ive had people give me alot of money on twitch so far

[dark jasper]

fr dude you could be spending that time gooning and eating seed oils ✌️ 😂

[bleak thistle]

this is so real man

[wet herald]

DONT EAT THAT! Rfk voice

[merry geyser]

⁉️⁉️⁉️

[bleak thistle]

SEED OILS AND RED 40 IMMA CRASH OUT

[valid stone]

I spent it eating and gooning seed oils

[dark jasper]

its the perfect way to kick off the weekend

[bleak thistle]

not rfk voice LMAO

[valid stone]

‘Voice’ is generous

[wet herald]

Funny ass dude man , I don't know what's up with that guy

[waxen minnow]

Im sorry seed oils?
What have i missed this time

[bleak thistle]

did you see the clip of him saying he hates autistic people lmfao

[dark jasper]

goon in the cybertruck drinking saratoga spring water

https://tenor.com/d4UbaLTKNEt.gif

[wet herald]

Dude wants to create some database to monitor them too , fucking comedy

[dark jasper]

whaaat they disabled gifs again?

[bleak thistle]

yeah dude we live in a giant clown car

[sick carbon]

what are you yapping about

[waxen minnow]

He said that vaccines cause autism, and that it ruins lives
This is the dude in charge of the health department in the US

[bleak thistle]

the video of rfk talking about how autistic people are useless essentially

[wet herald]

It's all them worms he has in his brain , no good

[bleak thistle]

which couldnt be farther from the truth cause autistic people at least the ones ive met are all smart and or rich

[waxen minnow]

Has he said that as well?

[wet herald]

Getting rid of all of that food coloring shit though, a step in the right direction, besides that though, dude is sorta crazy.

[sick carbon]

he ended it with "essentially" so its likely his opinion

[bleak thistle]

he says it in the same speach thats not a direct quote

[waxen minnow]

So he says it ruins families, causes suffering and that autistic people are worthless
All in the same speech?

America is just a parody of itself now

[bleak thistle]

not my opinion just summed up saying that it ruins lives and people just isnt true

[dark jasper]

why is rfk clip farming in the presidential cabinet

[bleak thistle]

he didnt directly say worthless but its clear thats what he meant im disabled and have heard it all hes one step away from calling disabled people invalids

[waxen minnow]

We got GTA in the real world before GTA 6

Well, gta has always been a critique of america

[bleak thistle]

LMAO

[oblique rock]

Hey guys, just curious what people are feeling after all the recent crazy Bungie stuff? Are people gonna actually buy the game ?? I'm debating on it and wanted to see what ppl think

[sick carbon]

You can essentially say w/e you want politically as long as you respond back with the candidate or party they like you are all good

[bleak thistle]

it could be good if sony gets rid of the entire management and makes them delay the game

[wet herald]

Just wait to see how shit shapes out bruh, don't preorder, just relax, wait and see.

It's the reasonable thing to do rn

[bleak thistle]

Im just gunna wait and see what happens

[waxen minnow]

What?
I don't understand what you're saying

[oblique rock]

Yeah I'm feeling this. I just really want the game to be good, looks so cool but also I feel like it could have some more time in the oven

[oblique rock]

Damn

[wet herald]

I grew up with Marathon, and I love Tarkov so I want to see a W here. I'm chilling, just kick back and enjoy your favorite games until then

[magic oar]

DOA

[solid tulip]

pre-ordering games is for suckers just as a base rule; pre-ordering games based on footage of an unpolished alpha? even worse

[oblique rock]

Here's hoping they lock it in

[sick carbon]

havent seen a game of this scope historically be successful after controveries and Bungie doubling down on "not wanting to overdeliver"

[wet herald]

They gotta or they're cooked

[oblique rock]

So much dooming on the Internet I wanted to come here to check what the community thinks as well

[solid tulip]

like, if you wanna pre-order go with god, but there's no difference between doing it now and doing it like, the day before release, except for you'd be better informed

[bleak thistle]

people were gunna shit on it either way but I would read up on the situation the game could be good but they need to get rid of the management of bungie

[wet herald]

People are mixed in here, some are doubtful, some optimistic and we are never short on trolls in here that have no intention on ever playing the game ( they suck at PVP btw) 😉

[waxen minnow]

The lack of punctuation made me just not see that

[sick carbon]

Only thing that can save this game is an extremely fun open beta that changes the narrative. hearing them in their last live stream say "they are brainstorming raid/depth of content in maps is a concern

[magic oar]

only thing that will save this game is F2P, why pay money when the artwork isnt even their own imagination

[oblique rock]

Bungie management has been messing with d2 forever now as well... I'd be interested to see how that changes things

[bleak thistle]

the devs essentially talked about how they werent allowed to make interesting creative decisions cause the higher ups forced them to do alot they didnt want to do

[oblique rock]

Jesus

[sick carbon]

well you wont avoid that here. clearly you can see nobody is talking about the game and its pretty much politics now

[candid talon]

guys i got a tummy ache can someone pray 4 me

[oblique rock]

Haha

[sick carbon]

"Nono, i am still for voting.
But there is no real socialist party in sweden or the US for that matter
So while you still need to vote to not get the far right in, you should still focus on joining local groups and orgs"

Dont see much about RFK in this

[wet herald]

Relax, people are over it bruh

[waxen minnow]

That was before RFK was even brought up

[sick carbon]

you dont have to reply to me to get me to not talk to you. you can just ignore me

[sick carbon]

yeah called talking about politics

[wet herald]

Oh jeez lmao

[sick carbon]

dont even pay attention to RFK, but nice try

you got me with that one

[wet herald]

Yep

[bleak thistle]

lmao

[sick carbon]

refrencing a twitch chat in discord to be funny is not it buddy

why dont you tell us what you are excited for about marathon. That might be a good topic

[waxen minnow]

I wish women were real

[sick carbon]

must have been short lived then

[bleak thistle]

im just flowing with the convo man

[bleak thistle]

this is so real I think they are fed robots

[sick carbon]

when someone brings in a personal life that is unknown to them you can clearly tell they cant form a real argument

[fickle skiff]

I be playin marathon wit one hand YKWIM

[bleak thistle]

me when glitch shows up on stream

[sick carbon]

No keep going, you were on the right track with how I talk to women

[zinc sonnet]

[sick carbon]

lets hear more XD

[wet herald]

Bruh, stop being such a hard ass lol

[fickle skiff]

Not him, not that guy

[zinc sonnet]

Void 😍

[sick carbon]

Nice, I just DM requested you. Would you like to go photo for photo?

[earnest belfry]

😱

[wet herald]

This guy lmaooooo

[zinc sonnet]

stop the violence

[sick carbon]

XD. Just curious. You seem so confident

[fickle skiff]

Do you think the cyber bodies replicate humans in every way... do they feel pain there... 🥀

[wet herald]

Bro , you're hurt and it shows. Walk away for a few mins and come back

[sick carbon]

keep going bro. First thing that comes to your mind is no women XD Projecting?

[waxen minnow]

I thought we established that they dont exist already

[sick carbon]

Who is mad about your political views? I told someone that nobody talks about the game here that much and its pretty much political now. You got defensive and went at me personally (typical discord reject)

Sounds on par with people online. Talk about no girls, no this no that, in a discord chat for a game that isnt out for 4 months btw

[wet herald]

He was kidding , it was a joke.

[sick carbon]

Let me guess, you are the life of the party, girls just stroke your ego 24/7, just cant keep them off of you?

[sick carbon]

Sounds like it

[lyric anvil]

Does anyone have a spare code I really want to get into this alpha thing

[earnest belfry]

it’s not open

[sick carbon]

Man, you clearly went to the club and left alone. Sucks

[fickle skiff]

Yeah bro dm me

[wet herald]

Alpha over homeboy 😶

[waxen minnow]

"In a discord for a game that isnt out in 4 months"
Why are you in here then?

[sick carbon]

Try a library next time. Girls probably insist you keep quiet most of the time anyway

[lyric anvil]

Well can they turn it back on? I havent gotten a code?

[sick carbon]

"guy brings up my personal life and getting girls or not immediately"

"talks about someone being insecure"

[final plover]

call the Bungie hotline. I'm sure they'll start it up for u

[sick carbon]

Well you are about to waste money on Marathon so doesnt sound like someone responsible to me

[wet herald]

I'll get in touch with the mods to spin up a server just for you

[fickle skiff]

So many people afraid to ask this question

[sick carbon]

Caps lock stuck? Now we really know who is malding XD

[lyric anvil]

Thanks I appreciate it. Just DM me when they have it back up

[sick carbon]

Cant even type out OMG so fast his fingers are brittle

[bleak thistle]

dude they sent me an email a week after it ended saying I didnt get in lmao

[full kindle]

What the fuck is happening in my mpreg chat?

[earnest belfry]

This is intense

[waxen minnow]

Idk anymore

[sick carbon]

Jokes on you I dont have a gamer chair. That would mean I sit in it too much. What you got?

[wet herald]

Bro , imma be real, you're taking the L on this one. Dude is literally having fun with you right now and you're the one taking it to heart, you needa relax

[sick carbon]

Say it one more time. Copy paste it

[fickle skiff]

I heard Jeff Bezos will have a marathon cameo

[waxen minnow]

Gamer chairs arent even good if you sit at a computer for long periods

[sick carbon]

BTW, the guy spamming in caps is having fun. Glad you are going with that narrative

[full kindle]

Yeah but why, why even engage either way if both sides are upset

[lyric anvil]

How did this all start? Im curious now

[bleak thistle]

he might

[full kindle]

Why not just not? Is it really so hard to just stop?

[sick carbon]

Stop!

[full kindle]

Is the other person getting the last word realy that big of a deal

[sick carbon]

You keep telling yourself that?

[fickle skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-peak-fiction-one-piece-gif-26139262

[magic rose]

they should keep at it imo

[earnest belfry]

You gotta let this showdown play out

[gleaming bough]

[sick carbon]

I have a feeling you are gonna start talking in 3rd person and say "you are over this"

[wet herald]

I got Jay in the Halo 3 1v1, guardian MLG rules

[bleak thistle]

dude have yall played hunt showdown shit is really sick

[sick carbon]

Halo 3 is my most played game that would be a insta loss

[waxen minnow]

The fuck does that even mean

[bleak thistle]

this is kind of a banger line

[sick carbon]

Figure it out buddy

[earnest belfry]

It’s fun until I get the spider boss

[wet herald]

Where ya 50s at

[fickle skiff]

They call it Marathon because you just watch other people play

[waxen minnow]

Dont buddy me

[sick carbon]

I mostly played lans in Ohio and custom matches. Couple MLG appearances in Vegas when I was younger

[bleak thistle]

the bird guy with the barbed wire and the bug guy that shoots spikes are the ones that give me issues

[wet herald]

Very cool

[sick carbon]

Im shocked, thought youd make fun of gamers who play games lol

[final plover]

is hunt easy to get into for a newbie? looked neat but idk how hardcore it is

[wet herald]

Now why would I do that if I literally sweat in every game I play

[bleak thistle]

its pretty hard to be honest

[sick carbon]

Watch out, someone might say its stinky in there

[bleak thistle]

the gunplay is hard and the game is really scary when you first play it

[fickle skiff]

<@&1306392707979018371>arathon excellent ad campaign for every other extraction shooter

[wet herald]

Stinky and proud

[bleak thistle]

lmao

[magic rose]

poor m

[sick carbon]

The amount of buttcracks at MLG events was pretty crazy ngl

[bleak thistle]

im gunna play it either way for content

[wet herald]

o hell nah

[bleak thistle]

DUDE the amount at magic the gathering tourneys are pretty insane to

[wet herald]

I'm good on that boss

[sick carbon]

Me and my GF play magic all the time at home

[final plover]

gaming events sound like biohazards

[bleak thistle]

theirs always that one fucking guy at the local game store

[fickle skiff]

I'm gonna play it with my nuts out tbh

[bleak thistle]

dude its alot of fun man

magic is great havent played in a min

[wet herald]

Heard they gotta enforce deodorant at Pokemon tourneys man, that shit is embarrassing

[sick carbon]

Played since onslaught. Power creep is real

[bleak thistle]

yeah dude I just play commander mostly so I dont have to keep up with meta or banned cards

[final plover]

they should just axe spray everyone at the entrance at least

[sick carbon]

I live in Las Vegas so big magic events have enough space to where it doesnt matter

[candid talon]

lmfao no the stank is a tactic

casting psychic damage on the player

[fickle skiff]

I had a crazy green black buff deck that never saw the light of day

[wet herald]

Axe spray is crazy , that stuff is NASTY

[sick sluice]

ok

[candid talon]

ok

[wet herald]

I'm a Native guy myself

[fickle skiff]

Hyper Potion

[candid talon]

lmfao

[wet herald]

Lol

[bleak thistle]

yeah he kept saying wierd shit to the managers sister in this game we were playing but he just thought she was some random girl so he started spouting off insane shit

[sick carbon]

One of the magic events in Vegas I went to had an after party and surprisingly you could pull some chicks in there if you werent shy.

[bleak thistle]

real lmao so many goth women like mtg in my area for some reason lmfao

[wet herald]

Anyone keeping up with Computex? Look at this beauty https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/pc-cases/silverstone-reveals-the-flp02-late-80s-style-tower-pc-case-proudly-beige-but-thoroughly-modern-inside

[bleak thistle]

dude I saw that last week apparently it cant fit any of the bigger graphics cards but it looks sick

[wet herald]

I havent seen the dimensions. Probably won't fit my Aorus 5090, I'm cooked

[bleak thistle]

I really like the lian li and thermaltake ones

also corsairs new aio cooler looks interesting

its kind of THICC tho

[wet herald]

I gotta take a look at that gear

I just built a new rig in a Fractal North XL

Anti RGB

[bleak thistle]

sick dude I gotta buy a new case im rocking a cyberpower pc case lmfao

only reason ive kept it is because im too lazy to reinstall everything into a new case

[bleak thistle]

valid

[wet herald]

This is what im rocking right now, 9800x3d 5090 https://imgur.com/a/RZlUZQm

[sick carbon]

Later guys, GF just got off work so we gotta hit the massage chairs at the gym. EoS has some really good ammenities for cheap highly recommend

[honest basin]

Hello guys I'm new here but how can I get some flame?

[bleak thistle]

worddd have a good one big dawg

[wet herald]

Peace bruh

[bleak thistle]

you work for sega??

[honest basin]

No I'm just for new

[bleak thistle]

oh your in a sonic chat makes sense nvm lol

[honest basin]

Lol is okay so how can get some avater?

[wet herald]

Bruh I saw Marilyn Manson the other day, incredible

[wet herald]

Channels and Roles

[bleak thistle]

avatar logo thing? I got that overlay from the discord challenges tab and then you can joing a faction in channels and roles

[main prism]

what's up freaks

[wet herald]

Wassup gamer

[bleak thistle]

dude is an interesting guy honestly

[main prism]

just watching someone hate on me lmfao

[bleak thistle]

just vibing brother

[wet herald]

Wym

[bleak thistle]

how so?

[round cape]

Gonna play splitgate all day and still wish it were Marathon my favorite game of 2025

[main prism]

the guy from earlier wanted to block me i hope he did

[main prism]

splitgate is fun i like that game haven't played in a while

[wet herald]

Ah, don't worry about it lol

[bleak thistle]

man I hope they delay marathon and fix all the issues im genuinely bummed about how things are going rn

[round cape]

New one is live in 9 hours open beta / early access

[main prism]

i'm not i wanted him to see all the -Blocked message- lines in this chat to remind him that even while i'm blocked my presence cannot be diminished

[main prism]

oooooooo might check it out this weekend if i have time

[bleak thistle]

this is real asf

[round cape]

The shooting feels really, really ... Really good

[main prism]

on the roller or mnk cuz i think there's a difference?

[round cape]

I only played controller

[bleak thistle]

I didnt know splitgate was out in beta whT

[main prism]

i see it shouldn't be that big of a difference like on halo infinite

[bleak thistle]

how do I get into that and is their an nda?

[round cape]

Yep 9 hours no NDA full open beta staying open until launch

Just click and play

[bleak thistle]

oh shit imma check it out and stream it after I beat doom

[main prism]

nice just on steam? i'll preload it if possible

[round cape]

I got some beating to do B4 it goes up live myself

[main prism]

maybe that will be my main game over whatever bungie's cooking

[bleak thistle]

dude ive been playing the shit out of doom past couple says shit is so fun

[round cape]

I think it's also egs but I don't think preload is up

[main prism]

some what to do????????

[honest basin]

So I press it and so now what?

[bleak thistle]

im hopping they can come back

[round cape]

Some cranking etc

[main prism]

90's???????

[wet herald]

That's it. Lol

[honest basin]

That all?

[sour drift]

We're still talking about u, Doom Eternal Soundtrack

[honest basin]

But what about the avater?

[bleak thistle]

you have the role now you get access to a faction chat thing

[main prism]

bungie games or splitgate cuz ngl idk if bungie is cooking

[main prism]

BFG Division is my shit

[wet herald]

You talking about Jays avatar?

[bleak thistle]

its a discord challenge I dont know if its still up

[honest basin]

Yeah?

[wet herald]

It's expired

Can't get it anymore

[main prism]

it was exclusive to the alpha i think

[sour drift]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-excited-dance-gif-15785942

[round cape]

I think the meal is ready and fantastic I need em to open the fucking restaurant back up again

[main prism]

mmmmm yes open up mf

[wet herald]

Dark Ages = " we have Mick Gordon at home" ahh soundtrack

[honest basin]

Wait what expired oh man

[main prism]

it's not mick this time?

[round cape]

And I'm talking about splitty and marathon

[wet herald]

Hell nah, they had a huge falling out with Mick, lots of drama.

[main prism]

bro what is up with every new game just completely botching it and shooting themselves in the foot

[main prism]

mawaton

[main prism]

oh yeah forgot about that PAY UP MFS

[bleak thistle]

it might be in the quest tab still go to discover at the bottom left scroll all the way down then go to quests thats where it would be

[bleak thistle]

the game is still good soundtrack isnt as good but its still good

[wet herald]

The dark ages soundtrack mix has no balls. Some guys are mixing it themselves and it bangs. Check this out https://youtu.be/I-zppRvO7To?si=vZ5ugBhsbqrZ1zkl

[olive matrix]

Because we're in the downfall of AAA studios thinking they can get by with trends/microtransactions rather than making something fun

[bleak thistle]

not every game some of them defo do tho

[bleak thistle]

yeah not as heavy im still enjoying the game alot on gamepass tho

[bleak thistle]

this is so real

[main prism]

might check out a lets play or something not that into new doom

[bleak thistle]

do it brother

[main prism]

esoterickk do have his gameplay up

[wet herald]

100%'d it the other day on Nightmare, gonna go for Pandemonium rn

[bleak thistle]

its really fun one of the best shooters of the year imo

[main prism]

is that like the hardest difficulty

[wet herald]

Ultra Nightmare is perma death

[bleak thistle]

im at the cthulu temple part chapter 16 I think

[main prism]

holy solo GM insight terminus in 10 mins is crazy

[bleak thistle]

im doing nightmare rn

[wet herald]

Some of the best missions imo

[main prism]

oh like hardcore minecraft

[bleak thistle]

yeah thats wild

[bleak thistle]

yeah dude

[main prism]

thought he used mantle of battle harmony but nope just geomags

ight imma go offline and perhaps eat a hotpot

[wet herald]

For those playing Dark Ages, check this out, the code may work for you. We got some pizza place here in NYC doing a promo for a rare skin https://imgur.com/a/VFqYrU5

Wooooooooahhhh

Brother they are gonna gigaban you for saying shit like that lmao

[round cape]

Target acquired

[wet herald]

You're probably butt at PVP anyway

Might as well start making a new discord account

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[round cape]

Obsessed

[wet herald]

Real

[mild nexus]

Mf KlLL yourself 😭🙏

[lucid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/esta-mal-gif-21355582

[gleaming bough]

[wet frost]

I'ma screenshot this and find you in 5 years lmao

never gonna live this down

[mild nexus]

Digital footprint has that covered already big dawg

[wet frost]

Almost as bad as Bungie stealing art

[lucid wolf]

It’s like middle school all over again

[wet frost]

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-attention-gif-461278499118147668

okay I forgot this server is 1984

[wet herald]

Dudes crashing out because he didn't get into the alpha

[lucid wolf]

I ain’t even talkin to you dawg

[hidden spear]

pipe down crackkka we dont like wretches like you

[wet frost]

god forbid I respond to someone on an open discussions 🗣️ 🔥

[hidden spear]

nice try pal im white

regardless you prolly stink like shit

[lucid wolf]

Why even engage just boot react and move on

[hidden spear]

im bored

[lucid wolf]

Bro’s getting off rn you’re just helping him finish

[gleaming bough]

worming their worm?

[hidden spear]

if i speak my mind the mods will ban me sadly

[mild nexus]

Average sekiguchi fan response

[wet herald]

Ain't worth it, we got a beta to get into

[wet frost]

I wonder if marathon is gonna flop on release

[wet herald]

Gotta wait and see

[gleaming bough]

the evil is gone

[hidden spear]

rat man's disciple has been felled god bless

[gleaming bough]

I feed them to the worms

[wet frost]

I remember pre- Destiny 2 when Bungie's art team cooked 24/7
But I guess they gotta use the Star Wars crossovers and stolen art left in the pantry

[wet herald]

As a star wars fan, the star wars stuff is hella corny

[wet frost]

Man I fuggin love me some Destiny 1 and Halo

[wet herald]

RIP bozo

[wet frost]

It's a shame that Marathon has an actually good art direction like always but you know they gotta be shitting on that with stupid avoidable things

[mild nexus]

Obviously do I want destiny to turn into fortnite and be ridden with collabs? No. But you gotta admit the loot is gonna be pretty fuckin dope like lets be real

[oblique axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122407690942029836/1361770756761190633/lexiesekgen.gif

[wet frost]

I think it's corny personally

[mild nexus]

Even if its half baked and lazy we might as well appreciate it fir what it is cuz realistically we cant do shit to make em change

[gleaming bough]

real

[wet frost]

Bungie running out of ideas instead of fixing fundamental FOMO and gameplay issues that have been their for years

[severe lichen]

The entire art direction was stolen from 1 artist, that's more than "avoidable." Just don't do that

[hidden spear]

i mean people could stop preordering sewage dlcs

[cold stump]

me when i lie

[wet frost]

Before even getting to that point just do what SEGA does and hire fans to make the games for you lmao

[mild nexus]

Basically Valve atp too

[wet frost]

Just give fans your IP and let them make money for you 🥱

[cold stump]

screw bungie but its incredibly anti-artist rhetoric to say that the ENTIRE art direction in marathon is stolen from one twitter artist

[severe lichen]

All things that should be done during initial planning, you don't go into alpha with menus and art pulled directly from instagram without including the artist

[wet frost]

Well there is very bare minimum merit to it because the art outside of the icons they stole were very much Marathon-like

Not to say they are unoriginal but you gotta call into question if they stole the whole vibe

someone saw that artist on twitter and went "hey maybe this would set the atmosphere"

Which is a reasonable (neither proven nor not) accusation considering, well, they already did steal from the artist

[severe lichen]

There are shots showing actual images in game that are smudged to remove text from the original art

[cold stump]

antireal's style is heavily influenced by the things joseph cross says influenced the creation of marathon im siding with ambiguously all artists here

[severe lichen]

This isn't a case of 1 or 2 images, the entire theme is ripped off and going to cost A LOT of money to fix. Probably more than they can afford

[cold stump]

more people should be able to iterate on this style like antireal and marathon did without ppl saying they stole antireal or marathon's style

[wet frost]

I agree

it's just that they stole from someone with the exact same style

[severe lichen]

when there are examples of them pulling images off instagram and using them , then no they shouldn't do that

[wet frost]

people can make art in whatever style they want

[cold stump]

it was likely apart of a mood board of reference images before they maliciously or mistakenly were included into a texture sheet

[severe lichen]

They actually included the signature logo from the artist in several instances, just mirrored or flipped. It's one of the most gross examples of IP theft in a long time at this level

[cold stump]

designers republic predates both marathon and antireal

[wet frost]

I swear there has to be some insider operation to just ruin Bungie at this point lol

[valid stone]

I do think the fact that a hundred artists looked at this and then subsequently failed to catch it or even question it shows a real lack of interest in their own work

[severe lichen]

They didn't "fail to catch" anything, multiple people in the art department followed the artist, they were all familiar with their work

[wet frost]

"Hey what do these symbols and names mean?"
"Sci-fi, trust me bro"
meeting over, must lose millions because of an easily catchable offense

[severe lichen]

They stole it

[wet frost]

FR??

[hasty obsidian]

Comb through a thousand art assets and you tell me which one is a real logo

[granite quartz]

Honestly looking at the game art it comes off as like a toy box. Everything looks so bright and cartoon to me personally.

[timid verge]

They stole it

[wet frost]

I didn't know allat

[timid verge]

Yeah bro they stole art

We should spank

[magic rose]

yeah and to be honest I was never onboard with it
doesnt help it somehow looks even worse ingame

the original teaser trailer did have something of a mood
but the alpha looked like a bit of a mess

[wet frost]

I personally love the art style (so, I will subsequently follow the actual progenitor lmao)
It's all plastic-y, and abstract which I'm a sucker for

The best way I can put it is putting autistic engineers in charge of colonization and robotics without any artists or architects with them

[high orchid]

I love the art very much. But yeah, the gameplay looks a bit messy and too stylized. Almost cel shaded.

[wet frost]

pure crack and a sci-fi dream

[granite quartz]

Honestly if they made it less cartoon and stick to alot of the source material it would have faired better in terms of look. If you looks at the original art it has a very dystopian look and broken vibe to it.

@magic rose

[wet frost]

betting 10 dollars that it'll end up "Us at Bungie offered the artist a position but they rejected for some unkown reason and now we're going to lose millions"

[static karma]

https://tenor.com/view/protect-lgbt-kids-pptransrights-trans-protect-trans-kids-feminist-gif-27638995

[severe lichen]

The game sucks, the fans suck, the art is good but stolen, Concord 2.0. I'm out y'all, keep your heads in your asses

[magic rose]

i am very familiar with marathon as a series

[high orchid]

Wanna check out my Pinterest board that I've been gathering for some time and suddenly Marathon looks almost exactly like it?

[wet frost]

how long is "some time" lmao

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-19575284

[static karma]

<@&1306392707979018371>ods

[wet frost]

he a little confused but he got the spirit

[high orchid]

Like a year before Marathon was announced. Of course, at some point Marathon concepts started creeping in, but that was a cute coincidence.

[wet frost]

What is the art style even called?

I assume it's a little more popular than just one artist

[magic rose]

crayon punk?

[high orchid]

No idea. I called it Synthetic

[magic rose]

Synthetik did it better

i was partly joking but both Synthetik games have a very similar style
except they have better use of color and contrast, instead of just splattering random colors and shapes everywhere

[high orchid]

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about Synthetik. Yeah, I loved that style. For some reason that plasticy cleannes looks very cute.

[static karma]

Art theft

[magic rose]

art more like fart

[patent dust]

wassup

[sacred roost]

lmao I got muted for an hour because I mentioned the word pr0n0uns

Wtf

[magic rose]

i got muted for an hour because I posted a censored swear

not even a slur, just a swear word
censored

[sacred roost]

Lmao

[deep patio]

Same here lol

[magic rose]

it was a response to someone asking what "C-Suite" was

and I gave an answer

nah

[sacred roost]

I was talking about how people will use literally anything to push their agenda against trans people, including for some reason blaming the downfall of Bungie on them instead of the multitude of clear factors

[deep patio]

How the????

[magic rose]

its not getting cancelled

[sacred roost]

Something something, wokeness killed the Bungie I love, something something pr0n0uns

I'm glad that when marathon crashes and burns, there will be no preorders for Bungie to crutch on financially. And Sony is breathing down their necks already lmao

[deep patio]

I wanna forget those kinda opinions still exist...... yet they still find me somehow

[magic rose]

unless bungie specifically makes an official statement about it
release is still in september

[deep patio]

If sony disects bungie. Can they not pay out the execs. I want them to leave empty handed..... or atleast whatever they consider broke

[magic rose]

golden parachutes are all ready to go

[deep patio]

Fuck

[magic rose]

the only way to prevent executives from leaving a company with a golden parachute after ruining it is if they are caught partaking in illegal activity

[deep patio]

That would be golden. I hope they slip up then

[sacred roost]

Execs will already be gone, they're leaving after Marathon. Wastes of goddamn oxygen.

[deep patio]

I hope Pete croaks in a car crash

[sacred roost]

I wonder what the chances are of his entire car collection being mysteriously covered in gasoline and set on fire

[deep patio]

Or out right disappearing

[ancient fern]

Give Antireal one of his cars for the record I'm not being serious

[candid talon]

damn the art channels are dead

[deep patio]

How about 5. He might not miss those models

[candid talon]

😔

[willow night]

i mean why not

[deep patio]

I dont blame the artists here leaving in droves after what happened

[candid talon]

true lmao but damn i wonder how marketing is gonna save this

[magic rose]

they are afraid their art will get stolen too

[deep patio]

Exactly

[ancient fern]

Lmaoo good stuff, the layers on that 🔥 🔥

[willow night]

peak username btw

[deep patio]

PR is still seazing as we speak

[candid talon]

lmfao if they can pull it off they need to be studied

[deep patio]

Why thank you

[candid talon]

like if they can turn this shit around that's a huge case study right there

[sacred roost]

It isn't

[crimson sky]

did anyone actually get to play the alpha of this?

[candid talon]

we'll see how it works out LOL but its definitely gonna be a feat if they can

[sacred roost]

They have to redo most of the textures in the game within the next few months

[candid talon]

I'm just excited to see how this plays out in the end

[deep patio]

4 months left. They have a shit ton of scrubbing to do...... people, we may not see a beta. Or if we do see one. It'll be too close to the release of the game for any substantial changes to be made

[bold sleet]

What marketing? There’s like 2 trailers for this game, everything else we’ve heard has been negative press

[patent dust]

Lets hold a marathon for Art Raiders

[stuck sparrow]

I wonder if anything can save this game. honestly reception is so bad I don't know WHAT they could do to recover atp. Id say delay it like a year and just really focus in on the games vision but I really don't know anything and I'm not gonna pretend to

[magic rose]

two cg trailers, two gameplay trailers

[deep patio]

If they did delay it a year, who's to say sony will be patient enough for them to make good on whatever deals were made

[magic rose]

they had more marketing planned but it has been pushed back

[candid talon]

Well it was startin out good, the marketing team did numbers with the ARG and alpha test annoucement which got everyone here trading art etc and this chat was constantly scrolling with propaganda from each faction lol so at the beginning the marketing team had it in the bag then this happened

[rigid quartz]

for someone who thinks this game is DOA, you're pretty active on here!

[bold sleet]

Marathon’s really testing the phrase “all press is good press”

[stuck sparrow]

Exactly the issue. There's pretty much no way anyone's gonna want to keep paying for its development that long

[deep patio]

And they've been in free fall ever since

[stuck sparrow]

Marathon but there's a suspicious amount of hurdles

[magic rose]

the marketing was going just fine until the gameplay trailer dropped

[uneven cairn]

art raiders

[magic rose]

for whatever reason actually seeing the game in action started raising some eyebrows
or turning people away

[deep patio]

Not bungie execs. Not sony not even players... well a good enough amout of players that is

[bold sleet]

Way too much stress was put into the Alpha test. We saw hardly anything prior to the alpha, so people were desperate to get a look. It led to a lot of mixed feedback because of just how radio silent they’ve been about the project

[magic rose]

cuz everything else was on point
the teaser, the short film, the ARG, etc

[rigid quartz]

is hating your coping mechanism?

[deep patio]

Each one...... higher than the last

[candid talon]

yep. I mean I guess the strat would be to delay it for a while until the heat dies down and they can actually work on improving the game systems etc maybe have another test but at this point if they dont compensate antireal or get em on the team in some way then its definitely gonna still be known as the game that stole art.

[deep patio]

I need the game to make me feel how that short film made me feel

[candid talon]

Like there were other instances of games having stolen art in like cosmetics etc but they compensated the artist and everyone forgot about it

[magic rose]

bungie will need to reconsider some fundamentals for that
or do a lot of testing and tweaking which they dont currently have time for

[stuck sparrow]

Its sad cuz, personally I'm not into extrac shooters, but the art and marketing pulled me in anyway and with this whole shpeel really just betrayed that and its hard to look at anything in the game without wondering if there's some other, smaller artists getting picked on in more subtle ways

[bold sleet]

I’m not sure Sony wants to lose out on the nearly $4 Billion investment with Bungie by allowing this game to flop. Thing is, I’m not sure Marathon could ever be a “main game” like they probably want

[magic rose]

if you look up the actual gameplay trailers
they are sitting at 40-50% dislikes
its clear even before the art stuff the game wasnt really grabbing attention like they hoped it would
and the lot of positive reception came from alpha players and testers
which taken at face value means: Bungie is terrible at communication

[deep patio]

Unless they get crunched into it.... which i dont want to happen that shit is awful. Im just thinkin if they are actually going to force this release this year how much worse could conditions in the office get by then

[olive matrix]

Community managers like dmg are great, I think Bungie themselves have a problem with overhyping a release

Hence, shadowkeep

[bold sleet]

In the feedback I offered the suggestion that more play tests be made available to advertise the game better than their marketing department. They’re treating this new game like it’s a Destiny expansion in terms of coverage

[deep patio]

Right! Shit is heartbreaking for me cuz i really wanted to get my hands on this because of the art, the world, the fucking lore. I've hardly played extraction shooters so this would've been the 1st i really got into

[bold sleet]

I actually don’t even care about extraction shooters. I’m just playing this one because of everything else about it, and I don’t mind stepping out of my comfort zone for it

[dry mulch]

I doubt in extraction shooters you can get lore.

[bold sleet]

It’s why I’m not gonna move to Arc Raiders. It’s not gonna provide what I’m actually looking for. And that might be heartbreaking to a designer that wants me to like this genre

[magic rose]

Ive got no real suggestions for bungie because they are a bit tight lipped and vague about what they have already cooking and what they havent even bought the ingredients for

[deep patio]

But bungie could have tried to make it work somehow. I was hoping that compared to other extraction shooters that this game would innovate on how extraction shooters feed or make randoms care more about lore

[dry mulch]

I mean if you can try and survive getting shot at from other players and npcs go for it

[rigid quartz]

we got it. you hate Bungie, you hate game. what are you doing here still? you just like to argue for the sake of it? This discord was to give feedback about the game to the devs. You obviously don't think it's a good game. Just leave!

[olive matrix]

The whole concept of being a shell that is slowly degrading in mental stability is a pretty cool premise

[dry mulch]

I mean the name and comments already scream hate trolling just ban imo

[magic rose]

are you after lore or are you after more the experience of discovering the lore?

[bold sleet]

I don’t even think he’s being that much of a hater as much as a pragmatist. Sure the name is salting the wounds but the discussion is solid

[deep patio]

They really could have done so much more here

[dry mulch]

Maybe, I just joined so can't be bothered scrolling up

[deep patio]

Ill risk it all for lore

[bold sleet]

Either one. I liked wandering about fearing getting jumped by a runner team while being asked to explore the anomaly

[magic rose]

they did say they had terminals like classic marathon but you cant read them in the middle of a session

[olive matrix]

I think it's a lot to build off, the game isn't out yet so we can't judge the lore much. If the cinematic is anything to go off - it'll be something cool

[dry mulch]

Personally I've always liked bungie's gunplay and movement, that's why I am waiting for Marathon. Sadly they did not provide alpha access for eu

[magic rose]

you copy the info and take it with you to read outside

[bold sleet]

The loot is meant to be lost, you CANNOT keep it. So no point in crying over spilled milk. Just hit the bricks and go and get a new set

[dusk kettle]

I will b so sad if this game turns out to be a flop. well never get this typa artstyle again

[magic rose]

there was also some random documents and audio logs which you can find

[deep patio]

So they did have shit planned....... is how im coping with them saying or lying about having no narrative written so far

[magic rose]

no they have lore written, for sure
its just they havent written a narrative yet

[dry mulch]

Like every other extraction shooter

[deep patio]

When did they say they were gonna release that roadmap for the game?

[dry mulch]

Mission start-> loot->kill->go home

[bold sleet]

Yea, but I love how forgiving the Sponsored kits are. They keep you from doing insanely broke runs

[deep patio]

See!!!!

[olive matrix]

Hope they add more opportunities for loot to get TRUELY lost (not scavenged), either through dying in PVE or having an oopsie daisy. Extends the longevity of season-wipes

[magic rose]

they got a bunch of backstory and lore and worldbuilding all ready to go, spread throughout the game in nuggets
but theres no seasonal narrative in place yet

[dusk kettle]

i hate the way missions start

u just spawn in no animation no nothing

[deep patio]

Something i could hardly avoid in Arc

[dry mulch]

I mean they might change it in the future, plus I don't need flashy entrances with a fortnite dance animation. I just want to shoot and loot

[dusk kettle]

looting felt pretty unsatisfying

[bold sleet]

I played Marauders back when that concept had promise (still waiting on a conversion for that game if ever), and I remember my friends and I fighting over the starting Luger and chest rig lmao

[dry mulch]

I heard that marathon is more easier to enter into the extraction shooting genre, which will cause a lot of issues down the lay

But this is not my opinion

[deep patio]

Imma cope a lil harder. What if bungie miraculously saves the game by July and marketing starts showing how good the game is cuz they've met everyones expectations!

[empty carbon]

Dieselpunk + extraction shooter = GIVE IT TO ME

[magic rose]

have I got a game for you...

[deep patio]

Also prox chat needs to be in game so i can beg not to get murked while standing at a terminal for too long

[bold sleet]

Sure, but I’m still new to the genre so whatever. And if Destiny is anything to go by, ignoring the new player base can only lead to an aging and stagnating player base

[empty carbon]

Go on...

[bold sleet]

Arc is NASA punk tho

[deep patio]

Lol yea

[empty carbon]

Was just about to say this

[magic rose]

id sooner want a normal dieselpunk fps than an extraction game

[dreamy ivy]

What

[static karma]

I hate that we aren’t in the timeline where the devs got to make a PvE marathon game

[olive matrix]

My lore prediction: durandal will open a door

[dry mulch]

It will be good for you in the beginning , but as later you play more and more and you don't find anything to learn unlike Escape from Tarkov which is difficult to learn and master, which is why people still play it. You might eventually drop Marathon because there is nothing to learn and it gets repetitive

[magic rose]

#🗣marathon-general-chat message

[deep patio]

Might just come back if we keep sayin it...... or if they wanna save the game on time

[quick loom]

plagiarim will make me god

[deep patio]

Like the good old days

[old sinew]

For me NASApunk is a weird way to call any concept but even so it would fall more towards starfield ships interiors and camps and the like than Arc raiders imo

[olive matrix]

And food will satiate my hunger

[dry mulch]

Also I feel like because there are heroes in the game, there will be microtransactions for skins and so on which will annoy me.

[static karma]

I just hate literally the smallest amount of bungie ruined bungie. I know that bungie has hundreds of talented badass devs

[magic rose]

arc raiders gives me no "NASA" vibes other than some of the posters

[dreamy ivy]

And hat will cover my head from heat

[dry mulch]

Times change, the devs are not the same back in the Halo days

[static karma]

Ya they’re better lol

[olive matrix]

I also make heads snug from cold

[empty carbon]

it shares the same sort of design language with the Alien films I think in regards to Starfield; everything is almost overly blocky and chunky; everything has utility

[deep patio]

Its bungie..... of course there will be skins and micro transactions in game

[static karma]

They just never listen to them

[deep patio]

Or that one map

[dreamy ivy]

Uuuh sloppy wooppy

[dry mulch]

Doesn't seem like with whats happenning to Destiny

[warped arch]

mf said "its bungie" like it isnt an industry standard

[deep patio]

Where have said devs gone?

[dreamy ivy]

Burger King

[static karma]

The devs continue to make good content in spite of a lack of resources and time to ensure good stuff. The weapon designs are sound and so much more are still so good better than halo even

[dry mulch]

Idk, why ask me :D. Either retired or moved to other companies

[bold sleet]

I don’t disagree, but all that really begs is the introduction of harder content within Marathon. All we’ve seen is the Alpha in which there were some events and half of the weapons and runners. It is entirely unknown if more has been implemented out of the build, or if more is intended to be introduced.

What I’m saying is that it’s ok for Marathon to be babbie’s first extraction shooter. It’s up to its ongoing support to ensure that the hook stays in the mouth

[olive matrix]

Other startups, Wildlight is a good one to keep an eye on -has a lot of the original Titanfall/apex devs

[dreamy ivy]

I have to start work in 10 mins but im falling asleep in the changing room

[old sinew]

Once again very NASA, i attribute NASApunk with white coloring and clearly defined lines, 45 degrees angles for corners between walls and ceiling and the like if that makes sense, i dont really see any of that in arc raiders

[dry mulch]

I'm sorry but you are talking about customization and not game mechancis

[static karma]

I get hating on Destiny but you can’t say there is no talent on it.

[deep patio]

Wildlight you say

[static karma]

The game mechanics are still better, it’s still the best shooter on the market

[deep patio]

Fair enough lol

[static karma]

No one does fps power fantasy like destiny besides like doom lol

[dreamy ivy]

Mh wilds

[dry mulch]

Yes but the decisions after that must not be greedy and must be entertaining and enjoyable

[empty carbon]

Exactly this; there IS a bit of 80s flair to it; especially from the trailers for the game; but for me ARC is just post apocalyptic

[bold sleet]

Lmao have you seen the past 3 years of Destiny? Greed ate that project

[dry mulch]

I would disagree very big time with this statement. Counter-strike and Valorant are much much more better

[dreamy ivy]

[static karma]

I can name just about every gun in destiny 2 with just the appearance and sound alone lol.

[dry mulch]

I dropped it 2-3 years ago, the content is soo bad

[deep patio]

Damn right

[dreamy ivy]

[static karma]

Those aren’t PvE games lol

[deep patio]

How long have you been playin?

[static karma]

Destiny PvP is poop

[olive matrix]

I liked the final shape (not the raid though lol)

[empty carbon]

Not hating on ARC's art style at all; I'm actually quite looking forward to it

[static karma]

Dark below

[dry mulch]

Your statement compares it to every shooter miss

[keen crow]

Where is my key ? I'm still waiting...

[magic rose]

destiny 2 must be absolutely packed with content

[trim summit]

okay fine. you can be my little pog champ

[deep patio]

For?

[old sinew]

They have another word for their design that i forgot the name but i do think diesel punk still fits it well enough, a bunch of scrap weapons with duct tape all over the place, a crowbar not for combat but for opening locked up places, cracked visors of helmets and rushily patched up suits

[magic rose]

cuz its 145 gigs without any expansion