🗣marathon-general-chat

[valid dome]

Right, but the mechanics is all still there its just not aesthetically what you want

[slender lance]

Those drones were actually enemies lmao if you don’t shoot them they’re allies

[proud plinth]

I mean, Bungie says, "Well, Marathon isn't an experience for everyone, it's a niche experience," and Playstation says, "It has to be a mainstream success, it has to be on par with Call of Duty, FIFA, GTA 5, the main game of the year, and so on in the near future."

[slender lance]

Weren’t*

[valid dome]

(Allegedly)

[magic rose]

the small ones that fly around?

[rigid quartz]

They should make the UESC bots stronger then. Like the covenant Elites in Halo Reach. That'll force players to spawn with good loot

[slender lance]

Yes lmao

[magic rose]

i was referring to the big ones in marathon 1

[hasty obsidian]

Is there a sense of randomness in marathon? Like are there weapon drops or loot with a drop rate that is random - if so they will not be fun for highly skilled players who could play a while and not see the weapon they want, like people in destiny doing raids and never getting a set, and it took so long to fix

[proud plinth]

Could we say that Marathon and Playstation are A walking contradiction?

Taxi Driver reference

[slender lance]

Same deal dude, they literally are there to help you fight off the phor lmfao

[valid dome]

Some of those commanders were nasty to fight with a sponsor kit, not worth the bullets

[magic rose]

no pfhor in this game

[umbral rune]

Anyone here like twd?

[proud plinth]

Bungie receiving comments from "Plagiarism Make Me a God" on its stream.

[rigid quartz]

yeah but we could evade easily. They should make it hard to evade them...

[topaz comet]

why tf arent the phor in perimeter or dire marsh?

[magic rose]

well they've changed the lore or this is a different timeline

[proud plinth]

God, I even saw a streamer uninstall Marathon live after being told that Marathon had stolen art for him.

[rigid quartz]

I believe they're doing a seasonal story driven battlepass

[magic rose]

technically the entire planet colony was bombed by marathon 2
but it still looks pretty intact so
different timeline

[valid dome]

One would assume they just weren't production ready for the alpha build, we already know ayy lmaos are coming

[pearl mica]

I’m all Gas, no Brakes with it

Naaaaa Meannnnn

[clear sequoia]

Plagiarism really is never worth it. Especially when it's just some subjectively generic looking decals. You wouldn't risk your game on something like that. Nothing to be gained.

[viscid lichen]

its literally the basis for their whole art direction

[thorny root]

Yeah the stolen environmental graphics was a big turn off

[valid dome]

I mean it's been what, 125 years or so?

[rigid quartz]

Plagiarism of 4 triangles is not the issue here. D2 players are fed up

[thorn sequoia]

oh for sure I'd much rather have shit like

While below half health, shield
breaking a hostile Runner restores your
shields
than like "foregrip that like only tweaks my recoil or whatever"
hell give us some real out there ones with drawbacks
higher damage at the cost of building up heat with sustained fire? idk

[pearl mica]

The Art has been around a longtime it was never made by Antireal

[topaz comet]

it just sucks a lot of the enviromental text in the alpha is antireals... nothing to do with the lore

[clear sequoia]

That's a gross over-exaggeration. It's some decals bro.

[hasty obsidian]

The asset might’ve been just in a folder and so old that they assumed it was bungie assets

And it fits in with thousands of other actual bungie assets for marathon

[rigid quartz]

ugh... chill out bot!

[late shell]

Did yall see the recent news with a former bungie devs speaking out?

[valid dome]

Or an artist was crunched had and cheated intentionally to meet their goals. Either way, needs to be resolvd

[thorny root]

:pepecope:

[viscid lichen]

its really not look at the decal sheets and look at the asethetic of the game, sure its not a copy paste but its also weird to have an entire vibe taken from someone that isnt on your payroll

[proud plinth]

It's incredible that Bungie gave players a moral reason not to play Marathon.

[pearl mica]

Yes I did, people should speak up more frequently

[hasty obsidian]

I can tell you guys, one artist doesn’t determine a franchise worth of art direction, it is a team and this artist has a handful of assets they made it into the alpha

[rigid quartz]

what did he say? Someone was shoved into a toilet for warning the CEO about Marathon being DOA?

[clear sequoia]

Yet that's not why people hate it.

[valid dome]

I've been reading articles from former bungie devs talking about how shit the company is to work for since the Xbox 360 days

[proud plinth]

entered into the bingo of failures, all that's missing is for one of their developers to antagonize the public and start insulting them

[valid dome]

Its kind of strange you came here just to regurgitate reddit rumors and railroad the conversation into topics we've covered many times already

[magic rose]

oh man i saw this with so many developers in the last few years
always a good indicator they dont really care about making a good game

[clear sequoia]

Nobody cares about the art deal other than using it as fuel to dump on the Marathon hate inferno.

[hasty obsidian]

There are people who work on motion graphics, video and animation that help shape the art direction outside of the one artist that was plagiarized so we can’t exactly write off the other people on the team who contributed original work

[proud plinth]

something like "talentless freaks"

[late shell]

Reddit rumors?

[valid dome]

Not you, fenix

[late shell]

Ah

[proud plinth]

the hell of totally justified hatred against marathon*.

[magic rose]

this is why I think the fifth map should be a starport called Concordia 😎

[valid dome]

You seem like you're just here to pick a bone :P

[proud plinth]

Don't try to defend them, remember, the public always has the final opinion because the customer is always right.

[olive matrix]

Yeah I think theres a lot of this prestige type stuff planned. But it's so much harder to pull off well given that they spent most of these ideas on "hero" characters, making buildcrafting more hero-centered rather than encounter-based.
But yeah there's a lot of opportunity here and I hope they do some cool shit with it

[clear sequoia]

That's not why people hate on Marathon tho.

[valid dome]

Hypothetically speaking, how would you feel if the court of public opinion ends up liking the game

[magic rose]

people can "defend" bungie all they want but it's ultimately just meaningless
ive "defended" mediocre companies before because of nostalgic attachment, so I know the feeling
it always amounts to a whole bunch of nothing

[valid dome]

Assuming someone is defending a company based on nostalgia is pretty bad faith, the dude is just reaching

[upper storm]

who's this "blocked message" guy and why are yall always responding to him

[thorny root]

lmAoo

[proud plinth]

Yeah, bungie is DEAD

[clear sequoia]

Court of public opinion = irrational online pitchfork-wielding hordes out for blood just for the taste of it? Those guys? Wait that's us. Dammit.

[rigid quartz]

What about I like the idea behind the Marathon game??

[valid dome]

And the mask comes off :P

[magic rose]

whats the idea?

[proud plinth]

They can't hold on to Destiny 2 any longer. They've already shown that it's not an option, and that Marathon was their escape capsule. If it fails, goodbye Bungie.

[wheat pond]

I smell a delay

[magic rose]

nah

[valid dome]

Procedural far future storytelling in an extraction shooter with a striking art direction, sounds fun to me

[dense spindle]

When is the next PlayMA stream?

[clear sequoia]

You should play that game Jump to Conclusions.

[ember crater]

I smell someones lunch

[valid dome]

Alright man, have fun ranting

[earnest belfry]

there isn't one scheduled rn

[proud plinth]

Dude, Nobody liked Marathon, when guests were asked if they would play it again, nobody raised their hand, out of everything, it's the worst a game can be, BORING

[viscid lichen]

Even if the backlash were unwarrented anybody can see that this kinda press a few months out before a launch isn't a great mix

[dense goblet]

Hello Marcus, as a ps player I will see you in August

[thorny root]

Who’s nobody?

[rigid quartz]

androids with uploaded consciousness fighting a cold Corpo war for resources on a planet where mysterious aliens are lurking.

[olive matrix]

I don't think people are defending Bungie as a company, because well - we all hate experiences that are forged from greed. We're defending the devs that are trying to make cool shit with the vision that Marathon could turn out to be really, really cool if done right.

[valid dome]

Its not a great mix, but discourse is already leaving this games controversy as we speak. A handful of months is a lot of time in gaming

[proud plinth]

everyone who played the game for the alpha

[thorny root]

Despite the issues that are rising up I enjoyed it…stop projecting ur Reddit bs on to this sever thx u!

[quick moss]

Does the game have some kind of pve?

[valid dome]

Except for all of us, that is?

[dense goblet]

I liked it, i had fun in the alpha. The art shit kinda killed it for me tho

[proud plinth]

Hey

[fervent smelt]

I mean I thought it was cool playing the alpha

[upper storm]

I would like to agree but the game was getting enough bad press already that they probably should delay anyway

[valid dome]

Not specifically, but lots of pve in game

[magic rose]

you fight some robot dudes
they explode nice which is probably why people are getting erections from it

[lean nymph]

Dead game?

[mint solar]

i saw my friend play it and he said it was decent

[proud plinth]

I feel the discord is empty, there are missing people, who the hell are you, and why do you defend Bungie and their game so much?

[earnest belfry]

it's PvPvE

[rigid quartz]

What are you talking about? Where do you come from?

[median jetty]

i think that was before the year long delay

[thorny root]

u know how many YouTubers have repeated what u said? i lose count just thinking about it lmaooo mf titles “I quit destiny” like bro we don’t care 😂

[swift pewter]

id rather play marathon than arc raiders

[rigid quartz]

He is that far removed?

[upper storm]

gotta stop feeding the trolls man

[clear sequoia]

Believe it or not, gamers like to play games, not salivate at the pipe-dream of toppling companies.

[median jetty]

🤷‍♂️

[rigid quartz]

mid-raiders*

[upper storm]

type shit

[fervent smelt]

I liked it when it was a civil conversation

[proud plinth]

delay, the same year as GTA 6? 🤔

[valid dome]

Nah see this guy is reasonable for the most part, but he loves to shit on people for having opinions that don't line up with his too. It sucks

[median jetty]

no like a year ago from now

[valid dome]

Marcus is just a redditor troll, that we can disregard

[thorny root]

Guys he’s rage baiting or has mental problem

[rigid quartz]

no when they went dark after announcing the game in 2023

[umbral rune]

Gta6 got announced that long ago?

[proud plinth]

No.... Players like GOOD GAMES, how I hate this complacent and conformist attitude

[swift pewter]

arc raiders is genuinely unfun. the finals is fun but not arc raiders. havent even played marathon but ik for a fact its gonna be better than that game

[fervent smelt]

maaaan FUCK gta6 (I don't feel like downloading 200 gigabyte game)

[clear sequoia]

Tell me you've never developed anything without telling me nerd.

[valid dome]

Man fuck gta6 (I can't believe I got a ps5 for this game)

[rigid quartz]

"for a fact" is wild my guy! And I am a Bungie glazzer.

[upper storm]

if GTA6 is an actual story like red dead 2 ill give it a shot but i already played gta5 and i don't have any plans to do it again

[swift pewter]

uhh my name john

[fervent smelt]

maaaaaan FUCK gta6 ( I heard it will be capped at 30fps that ain't worth it to me)

[thorny root]

30?

how

[fervent smelt]

from what I've been reading around

[valid dome]

Without a doubt

[cursive kindle]

30?

[fiery root]

How my unemployed chat doing? We talking about art theft still? GTA6? Arc raiders being gods gift to mankind. Marathon DOA? Whats the new hot takes today?

[valid dome]

I'll enjoy it at 60 when it hits PC, but i ain't getting spoiled before then

[ember crater]

150

[proud plinth]

I only know that Marathon will fail and that Sony will dismantle the studio until nothing remains, and I hope that with that, Pete Parson will be left on the fucking street for the rest of his life, resigned to selling his collection of "classic cars."

[valid dome]

Hey I wfh, I get paid to banter lol

[glacial bane]

30fps is more cinematic anyway 👍

[thorny root]

I’m on my lunch break n it just ended 💔

[rigid quartz]

Winning game formula: Gatcha game with gooners content.

[fiery root]

U and me both brother its kino

[valid dome]

Mentally adjusted individual

[fiery root]

Get em marcus

[proud plinth]

Concord is out of fashion, what's in now is marathon, when a game is a DoA, it's called a Marathon 2

[thorny root]

Sounds like u are spoon fed YouTubers opinions it’s quite funny

[fervent smelt]

maaaaaan FUCK elden ring nightreign (I'm actually excited for this game )

[olive matrix]

Nah he's already rich, just gonna keep getting richer. Best we can hope for is he's replaced with someone who actually cares about the longevity and impact of Bungie

[cursive kindle]

bring back concord

[velvet badger]

Think you guys need some bagels

[fiery root]

Bagels and mental health assessments

[magic rose]

well technically Fairgame$ is Concord 2
Marathon wont be as big of a disaster

[upper storm]

current hot take is that Marathon should do a collab with GTA6 where the protagonists go on a raid with void and glitch and they steal the art from antireal

[proud plinth]

Why did he close his Twitter then?

[ember crater]

The mix of copium and doomerism in here would make Yin and Yang proud

[rigid quartz]

Soul like destiny

[honest bough]

Bring back Hood: Outlaws and legends

[cursive kindle]

death is upon us

all hope is lost the time is now

[upper storm]

holy fuck another hood survivor?? how are you doing my brother

[azure fossil]

omg marathon is really cooked

[rigid quartz]

what an intro!

[olive matrix]

Why would he listen to players that actively hate him? Pete has money to earn, and boy is he gonna earn it, with or without Marathon's success.

[true mountain]

Ex-Bungie Dev Says Marathon Leadership Was “Extremely Toxic And Humiliating” To Work With: “Bungie Leadership Needs To Be Gutted Completely”

[ripe rose]

holy shit Hood

[upper storm]

as in it's steaming hot and super appetizing and im gonna put it in my mouth? deadass

[fervent smelt]

maaaan FUCK Hasbro's ( I js want a new transformers game it's been to long)

[velvet badger]

I wish Arkham asylum was real, I’ll send more than half of yall there

[proud plinth]

That meme that Bungie is Xbox's Trojan horse to kill Playstation from within is becoming more and more real, although realistically, Xbox only saw that the studio wasn't worth it, that's why they didn't acquire them, Sony is just stupid and impulsive.

[fiery root]

The cope and the hate eventually balance out to nuance. Nuance that is instantly shot down by some guy with a fresh take like concord 2

[true mountain]

you live in the bronx?

[ripe rose]

Hood was honestly so ass but so good

[cursive kindle]

yeah fuck hashbrowns wats the deal with them

[true mountain]

whoever clown reacted you is a bungie d sucker

[upper storm]

nah im from philly

[true mountain]

go to o block instead

[honest bough]

Still mourning

[fiery root]

Can we talk about bungie management for a couple hours? I need my conspiratorial slop takes from some redditor who defs worked in game dev

[ripe rose]

oh fuck this is the normal general chat? im outta here

[valid dome]

This is so childish lol

[ember crater]

Aint no Nuance around here. Cope and Doom are full swing

[ripe rose]

i wasnt paying attention

[upper storm]

go to new noise

[honest bough]

Yeah I wanted to post a picture, and couldn't

[fiery root]

General chat is cooked my friend, this is the wastes of regurgitation

[true mountain]

gaystation vs xcocks

[velvet badger]

Jarvis turn off general chat for 3 hours

[cursive kindle]

back to gacha slop we go

[fervent smelt]

maaaaaan FUCK Ubisoft ( I can't escape For Honor send help )

[ember crater]

Goon speed o7

[valid dome]

True, real gamers chat in the alpha channels

[azure fossil]

For Honor is still alive?

[upper storm]

which i never got fucking invited to despite getting a code 😔

[fervent smelt]

yes which is surprising to this day

[fiery root]

I posted once in here about my alpha experience after 100 hours, and a guy said my opinion was wrong because i enjoyed elements of the game. And instead i should have had a more nuanced perspective from a guy who apparently played 30 minutes and hated it lmao

[proud plinth]

Honestly, with how ugly Bungie's game turned out, it also makes sense that they resorted to art theft. They're so useless that they couldn't imitate N²'s glitch style.

[azure fossil]

That's pretty cool actually, I always thought that game was really interesting.

[cursive kindle]

theres alot of yappin going on right nyeow

[proud plinth]

I mean, his characters are another case of "concordsification"

[olive matrix]

Fr, the majority of people in here are here for the drama and reactions. It's really easy to see people who haven't worked in the industry and it's even more depressing to explain the way of corporate structure without feeling genuinely sorry for the developers.

[fervent smelt]

MAAAAAAN FUCK ea (please js make battlefront 3)

[valid dome]

Next you're gonna say 'woke DEI!!!'

[ember crater]

Yeah unfortunately legitimate criticism gets you called a youtube/twitch zombie but then the doomers are also equally braindead

[proud plinth]

A woman with spiked hair, crooked makeup, clown shoes and skinny jeans sounds like the most incompatible thing in the system.

[severe spoke]

They should make Marathon The Cycle: Frontier 2.0

[green adder]

whelp, it's been real everybody, would've been cool to play the game a fair bit, it was looking cool

but that's looking like it's not gonna happen if things keep going the direction they're going

[fervent smelt]

maaaaaan FUCK respawn (they also gotta make Titanfall 3)

[upper storm]

i actually can't recall a game that had such braindead pre release chatter it's like a once in a generation occurrence

[valid dome]

Sounds like you two would get along well

[azure fossil]

go watch the Destin Lagere video he posted today, it's pretty bad

[uncut basin]

hello

[upper storm]

the entire internet got together and decided to be wrong and stupid about this game

[magic rose]

the first gameplay trailer had those vibes
but the actual game turned out to be Apex Extraction

[fiery root]

Ya its totally fair to have issues with bungo and they deserve poor public sentiment for mishandling things. With that said, if the game is fun the game is fun. And half the people who think it sucks very clearly never played the alpha imo, or watched the same 20 youtube videos saying bungie is cooked

[valid dome]

Oh you gotta play more MMOs, this is small work lol

[ember crater]

Im usually not around discords pre release so maybe im truly witnessing history

[upper storm]

i play 0 mmos so this would explain some things

[fervent smelt]

maaaaaan FUCK Nintendo ( no literally I hate they ass )

[ember crater]

Yeah but most MMO drama is post release

[severe spoke]

Thats why I was kinda excited, cause I LOVEEEEEE pve

[fiery root]

Lol half the chatter online these days is braindead. I blame tiktok and twitch brainrot

[valid dome]

Youre blessed, try being a SC backer LOL

[proud plinth]

The marathon director and the art director receiving all the hate focused on their stream:

[magic rose]

may I suggest checking out Helldivers 2

[upper storm]

im good i already have elite dangerous to be disappointed with

[fiery root]

Its funny to me how people think shields equals apex. Also before apex become a sloppily monetized game. Didnt people like apex?

[proud plinth]

God, there needs to be more hate in this chat. I remember that bullying Marathok was constant, now it seems like almost everyone has left.

[valid dome]

I really tried to like Elite but SC just smokes it in every way I personally care about, sadly

[green adder]

been having to fight roommate a lot about "AC Shadows bad" when my partner has spent 100s of hours in the game and says it's actually pretty good

my roomate has not played the game and has no sources she just has a hate kink for ubisoft

[valid dome]

Yeah theyre all on reddit man, time to return to your people

[languid trail]

not to hate but i dont know any game that ruined its potential as much as marathon bro

[magic rose]

well they also took the hero system, and some of the movement mechanics, and probably a few other things including the small-ish maps (for extraction standards) and the squad system

[severe spoke]

I do have helldivers, I enjoy it but I prefer first person. Idk what it is but I cant really get into most third person games. I enjoy 2.5d styled stuff like League and the original Fallouts but pure 3rd person takes me out of whatever Im playing

[fiery root]

Oh believe me buddy u have a decent amount still here including urself. Its just boring imo seeing concord 2 reposted a million times. At least be original lol

[fervent smelt]

maaaan FUCK this conversation ( I'm js here to instigate)

[upper storm]

its so funny, they're like two sides of the same coin

SC clearly suffers from overambition and elite suffers from a total lack of ambition

[magic rose]

well third person is pretty good for a horde game
and also you can still aim down sights in first person

[ember crater]

While I ended up on neutral grounds with someone I remember the hours of discourse of people saying revives in Marathon were actually fine and okay which ended up meaning nothing cause the devs flat out admitted they were a problem and getting addressed

[fiery root]

Ya i mean i think games can be enjoyed even if public opinion hates em. I got bored of assassins creed after a while cuz its the same game every year like cod lol. I mightve just outgrown the series

[green adder]

how about framerate? (this is tongue in cheek don't take this as an actual clapback please)

[round cape]

I've been there

[olive matrix]

I see the direction that they have for the game, and tbh they don't need delays to pull it off. It's just if upper-management would give them more time/budget they would have freedom to break out of the mold that's been set-in-stone since Bungies initial financial troubles. They can make Marathon really good, it's just a matter of if the stakeholders want to keep investing. And god, the public sentiment is not helping on that front.

[severe spoke]

Yea I understand logically why its good, I just dont personally enjoy it as much as FPS games

[magic rose]

does "early access" exist on playstation?
i know it does on xbox

[ember crater]

Fun times. At the end of the day this chat is rabble rabble. I try to have fun with it

[paper barn]

I am…

[round cape]

Good way to look at it

[stuck raft]

when is next closed beta for marathon? i open game now says denied

[severe spoke]

thats why I liked the Cycle so much, because it was a first person PVE focused game and those seem to be on the rarer side, especially for multiplayer

[paper barn]

Back from my 2nd mute

[upper storm]

i'm still fine with rezzes existing, i don't like having people be out the whole match from one death like tarkov. they do need adjustment though

[earnest belfry]

there is no date

[fiery root]

So heros and squad based gameplay = apex. Then where did apex get those from? Overwatch? Where did overwatch get those from? Timesplitters? doom? I see ur point but imo influences on games and iterating on those mechanics is how especially fps grow. Question is if marathon iterated enough lolol

[magic rose]

what im trying to say is Bungie can cool a lot of heat by launching the game in early access

just be upfront the game needs more time to cook

[stuck raft]

there is , we just dont know it yet

[clear sequoia]

and maybe making it free

[fiery root]

I member when internet forums used to exist and it wasnt spam L or W

[magic rose]

nope that worked out bad for the cycle

[olive matrix]

Ngl, this would kill the game really fast. Early access does not have good financial return at all

[earnest belfry]

You are a genius

[upper storm]

guy who's only played Apex playing his second video game: "getting some big Apex vibes from this"

[green adder]

anyway I do genuinely hope the art team can turn the game around with actual original art before release

it's not too too difficult of an art style I've done it myself before

game looks good it has promise just maybe don't keep stealing art?

[ember crater]

Just braindead toxicity with more word count.

I still miss it tho, made people try more

[stuck raft]

type shi fr fr

[fiery root]

No idea how this game will be monetized but lowkey i think it should be $20. And treat it like an indie game, constant updates and roadmaps. Earn trust back with actual content

[green adder]

isn't it supposed to be FTP?

[upper storm]

no it's gonna be 40

[clear sequoia]

Making it free would increase player count.

[fiery root]

I hope not, id rather have a game not turn into fortnite slop right away. Give it a couple years to slowly introduce fortnite slop like D2 did lol

[ember crater]

Marathon should bundle with a Taco Bell cravings box

[magic rose]

actually thats not even confirmed

[green adder]

nah that's fair that's fair

[clear sequoia]

I'm sure who ever pitches the idea gets fat raise too.

[valid dome]

No, 'premium' but confirmed not 'full price'

[magic rose]

we arent sure what price it will be, just that its not gonna be f2p

[valid dome]

Which i guess could mean 60 nowadays lol

[green adder]

I guess I had bad info that's my b

[tender juniper]

FTP Extraction shooters are too accessible for hackers, and getting killed by a hacker in an exraction shooter is the worst way to lose all your gear, instant extreme frustration

[magic rose]

tarkov is not f2p and it still gets hackers

[upper storm]

$50 for the wacky play

[clear sequoia]

It's also a great way to gain all your gear

[tender juniper]

youll get more with F2P. the extra hurdle of having to buy a new copy, cuts out a huge population of people that could hack

[fiery root]

Honestly helldivers imo has a top tier monetization strat, but i think even $40 is a tough sell for marathon without a PvE focus. $20 seems more reasonable but ill let the bungie suits determine that, and the players either buy it or they dont

[magic rose]

most tarkov players just play pve now
or they play the game at weird times of the day

[ember crater]

I think the amount of people asking for F2P is evidence a lot of prospective players arent actually extraction shooter gamers which is worrying for the long term

[magic rose]

spam

[clear sequoia]

I don't even want to touch gear that didn't first belong to somebody else.

[visual gull]

PLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GODPLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GODPLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GOD

[whole girder]

Bungo confirmed there were gonna be 3 different marathon editions no?

[fiery root]

Hackers will always exist just depends on the low or high barrier of entry

[visual gull]

PLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GODPLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GODPLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GODPLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GODPLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GODPLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GODPLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GOD bum ass game

[fervent ether]

Peak profile name

[upper storm]

that's probably good, no? means that the game is standing out and attracting people to a genre they weren't into before

[green adder]

the rough thing is

I LOVE the art style from what I've seen, the whole look of the game goes so hard, the one problem is the art theft

[olive matrix]

Gotta love rat gameplay to get the snowball rolling

[valid dome]

Literally every MP game attracts the f2p crowd begging for it, just the standard now

[magic rose]

the founders edition, which will give you some cool skins and some better starting gear
the premium edition, which just has the starting gear
and the standard edition which is actually just some wallpapers and renders
/s

[primal flicker]

Anticheat and cheating will just end up converging on an AI vs AI whackamole battle.

[noble siren]

shame the one thing they did well is stolen

[fiery root]

People are like make it F2P then buy $200 of skins, but $40 is too much lmao

[lavish wadi]

No it’s not

[soft saddle]

What a dumb thing to say

[valid dome]

Some of it seems to be, yeah! But more than just the art was done well

[olive matrix]

Decals, not the style. I'm sure they'll recover

[glad hemlock]

its ok bungie the most followed and worshipped book in history is an example of plagiarism too so you're in good company

[fiery root]

Bungie should have two servers, one for cheaters and one for non-cheaters 🙂

[magic rose]

regardless of the pricing do not expect bungie to not monetize it
it could be $80 and they will still monetize it further

[ember crater]

It's more of a wildcard then good or bad. Could lead to an ephemeral playerbase that came for brand or name or could be really good cause you got completely brand new genre babies

[whole girder]

True. But sadly I feel like the extent of the art theft will be misread in the future.

[valid dome]

Well yeah, of course it will have long term monetization

[noble siren]

cry abt it, game doa

[upper storm]

everyone agrees the plagiarism was bad but they apologized, they're working on fixing it, and it only accounted for a small number of assets out of an entire game's worth

it sucks but it doesn't mean the game's entire art style is void

[fiery root]

Oh for sure, i think regardless of how much it costs. The real question is what do we get as the consumer for that cost. New maps every other month? Or a single map and 200 paid skins?

[olive matrix]

The idea is awesome on paper, but dedicating server bandwidth to these scumbags? Nah just kick em out

[echo shuttle]

I dont mind selling skins but i swear if they do dlc/expansion bull in an extraction shooter like maps or content then im out

[lavish wadi]

All these people are all of a sudden graphic design experts claiming it’s all stolen lmao bunch of grifters. This art style has been around for 30-40 years

[upper storm]

shit dudes with an emma frost pfp frame say

[fiery root]

Good take, u come up with that on ur own?

[green adder]

I mean, vectorheart isn't an art style that the artists they stole from "own"

they just, need to make their own vectorheart

[ornate maple]

OPEN TEST WHEN

[obsidian plover]

No new conversation track today? Alright

[noble siren]

not a take, its common knowledge

[magic rose]

well maps in an extraction game cost a lot of time and money to make
so im expecting maps every season at most, maybe even every other season

[obsidian plover]

Touch grass

[olive matrix]

When the test opens

[zenith merlin]

hot take, new maps are not great content for an extraction shooter. I prefer to be able to learn the ins and outs of a map to having a new one thrust on me every two months like it's cod. They could use those resources instead for more characters, guns, attachments, story events

[glad hemlock]

prolly after they come up with their own assets

[fiery root]

Im mainly being sarcastic but it would be hilarious to have hackers get automatically sent to bot lobbies lol. U get ur aimbot but no real players lolol

[whole girder]

was supposed to be in August, sounds like that changed

[magic rose]

hunt showdown has been around for over seven years and it still only has like four maps

[zenith merlin]

same with dark and darker

[upper storm]

three at the moment 🥲

[olive matrix]

I prefer the idea of removing their ability to shoot, open containers, etc... make them a literal bullet sponge

[zenith merlin]

only 3 maps, map over saturation in an extraction game is bad, it just splits queues

[magic rose]

the thing with marathon is that its maps are comparatively small for an extraction game
so maybe they found a way to expedite the process

[fiery root]

For sure im just using maps as an example of content. I would honestly prefer just consistent new events, and map changes. Game modes. Ill say it again a map editor for an extraction shooter like forge for a tarkov style game would slap @bungie

[lavish wadi]

Fire marsh was plenty big for 18 players

[cosmic dove]

The maps are perfect for a story mode. Just need some new characters and some good storytelling and it'll be a good game

[ember crater]

Wouldnt have rhe Artefact system almost made Marathon (hypothetically I guess. We dont know) like Hunt?

[lavish wadi]

I’d rather have a more populated/smaller map. Than something dead and vast like Woods on Tarkov

[zenith merlin]

forge mode would be cool but I think you would have an issue getting enough players to fill that many queues. plus some people would only wanna play their own stuff

[green adder]

forge mode for an extraction shooter would be interesting for sure

[zenith merlin]

even in halo, custom game lobbies are often dead due to queue splitting

[viscid owl]

vtuber game journalists working overtime to try and convince me that destiny 2 is shutting down and marathon is dead on arrival

[lavish wadi]

Yeah man don’t you know Destiny died with each Destiny killer

It died when Anthem came out. And the division, and all the rest of them

Also people like Paul Tassi and Destin are actual grifters. Idk who listen to that shit

[zenith merlin]

what they need is some big map spanning arg style puzzles a la D1 tower ARGs

[viscid owl]

bungie has work drama. anybody here with a job at a perfect company that operates daily with 0 issues?

[fiery root]

Ehhh who cares, apparently this game is cooked anyway and for a small player base. So why not have custom lobbies, no loot crossover, just playlists for people who want a less “punishing” more party style curated lobby

[green adder]

speaking of which I should set up for my stream I will definitely tell you these things because I definitely get into all the trendy gamer discourse because that devinitely makes good content

[magic rose]

Destin's Destiny

[zenith merlin]

queue splitting is always a bad thing imo, and is an issue that isn't disccussed enough

[safe halo]

Give me my destiny reset let people who are too overwhelmed by all the shit in D2 give them a slate to start from with everyone else give me my 100 hours for a single exotic just put the d3 in the bag

[fiery root]

I swear paul tassi complains about everything, like ofc bro u made ur job about reporting on a single game u play. Would drive anyone to insanity

[lavish wadi]

Especially cause he sucks at it

[viscid owl]

it took you 100 hours to get 1 exotic?

[fiery root]

Is it really queue splitting to have private matches? Hunt showdown was supposed to do this but their updates come out everytime a blue moon

[zenith merlin]

adding a no risk game mode to an extraction shooter always causes issues

[safe halo]

Exaggeration but d1 exotics were time consuming as fuck to get

[zenith merlin]

look at sea of thieves and dark and darker, both added pve mode and lost half their players overnight

[main prism]

yall remember when exotics were tied to bounties and was time gated cuz i do

[safe halo]

Make me clock into my 2nd shift

[zenith merlin]

if there's a single place in the game to go that is "safe" all the timmies will hide there, thus ruining the balance of kill timmy>take loot

[fiery root]

Hmmm i think it would be fine, hunt showdown has a pretty small player base. And i think its ok to let people make private matches once a night if they dont wanna play the same game mode lol

[viscid owl]

what would you do in a private match exactly

[upper storm]

there are a couple ways you could interpret that lol

[main prism]

private matches but loot quality is halved

[valid dome]

Most pvp mmos fall into this too. World PvP dies when people can just hide in safe zones

[zenith merlin]

exactly

[main prism]

why would you put in a safe zone mode when the entire premise of the game is to escape that's stupid as fuck

[valid dome]

Can complete contracts but not gather loot perhaps, loot gets crunched into currency instead?

[zenith merlin]

if you give people a safe space, only the most hardcore pvp sweats will be left in the unsafe spaces

[ember crater]

Just be EVE online and have a totally healthy and mentally stable playerbase

[main prism]

nah bad idea scrap that

[fiery root]

Well in my schizo brain, a map editor where you could dial up or down bot difficulty. Loot locations or even just choose single compounds. Then you and your friends can do whatever u want. Only snipers drop as loot or something, maybe single extract etc

[valid dome]

YEAH SURE Lolol

[echo shuttle]

I think the negatives of havign a pve/safe mode in marathon just outweigh any positive it would have.

[rigid quartz]

They're all doing it, Bungo is not the only evil corp out there: https://kotaku.com/borderlands-4-randy-pitchford-gearbox-80-games-1851781445?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

[ember crater]

Whoops did you not buy a permit to mine in our territory? Time to die

[main prism]

i concur since it's dumb to have a safe zone mode when the ENTIRE PREMISE OF THE GAME IS TO ESCAPE

[valid dome]

Like I said earlier, the drama mill has already turned to Randy. Marathon will be fine lol

[rigid quartz]

yeah... nah... PVE only mode is not needed.

[ember crater]

Randy is a fucking colossal drama magnet

[viscid owl]

that is the safe zone so really there's already a safe zone

[trim steeple]

Skibidi rizz

[gritty urchin]

Arc raiders when..🥀😭🫡

[upper storm]

i'm not sure a pve mode would necessarily be a "safe zone". it sounds like bungie wants the pve to actually be a serious challenge on its own

[trim steeple]

Next month I'm pretty sure 🥳🥳

[main prism]

PVEVP is fun

[ember crater]

Dude needs to just remove himself from the Internet and stop using USB sticks for "magic"

[magic rose]

that usb stick contained the art assets

[echo shuttle]

pve is pretty much a safe mode/less risk. Lets be honest

[ember crater]

It definitely contained an "art form" emphasis on the form

[main prism]

PvE is unsafe only if you're a jim

[noble siren]

I’m proficient in ctrl c + ctrl v I wonder if I can work at Bungie

[visual gull]

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[still heron]

ts pmo 🥀

[main prism]

why would you want a safe zone (in a match) in an extraction shooter

[rigid quartz]

yeah why would they allow a player to get the same kinda of loot in PVE as someone who risk it all in PVPVE

[upper storm]

i mean relatively speaking sure. it's never gonna be as hard as pvp

i'm just saying that, compared to tarkov pve which sounds like it's generally kinda boring, and hunt which straight up would have no gameplay as pve, marathon might actually still work and be fun

[main prism]

i'm good at chatGPT i can work at bungie

[worthy totem]

Worked in Tarkov

[main prism]

idk bro solo gm's are kinda tuff

[trim steeple]

Hawk 1: "okay we gotta make a brand new meme that everyone will like!"
Hawk 2: uhhhhh
Hawk 1: say that again.

[echo shuttle]

But then that makes you ask, why grind in pvp when you can be safer in pve grinding? It causes problems no matter what

[main prism]

tarkov is in beta only accessible on PC so next question

[rigid quartz]

Tarkov is a reference but it's not a perfect game. Let's avoid the mistakes of others. Marathon is already walking on eggshells atm.

[main prism]

tuh more like drowning

[upper storm]

because you want to play pvp

it should probably go without saying that your pvp and pve accounts would be entirely separate

[worthy totem]

Nice deflection

[main prism]

ok

[noble siren]

PVE mode in tarkov is completely separate with its own flea market and stash, that’s the only way they could make it work in marathon as well

[worthy totem]

If the question is PvE environments it’s a good example

[echo shuttle]

but then that leads into another problem. Could split up the player base which is never a good idea.

[main prism]

putting a pve only mode in marathon would just make it destiny 2.5

[noble siren]

But who tf wants to play marathon for purely pve

[worthy totem]

Or it would work just fine

[main prism]

what i'm sayin

[echo shuttle]

Yes and even the ceo doesnt like that they did pve. He has made that clear that it takes away the part of the genre/game

[rigid quartz]

Destiny 1.5

[main prism]

PvE only mode in an extraction shooter is a goofy ass idea

[gritty urchin]

Just steal some art, maybe that would cut down on development time for marathon

[worthy totem]

Surely as fans of the IP you would like anyone to play the game and welcome any mode they like

[clear sequoia]

Or Destiny 0.5

[quick moss]

Delayed for another year and make it fully pve and some pvp

[main prism]

delay yes but don't separate the pve from pvp

[upper storm]

that's probably true for marathon where we're not sure if the game will have a large enough playerbase as is

counterpoint of course is that the pve mode remains playable with a much smaller playerbase. so idk

[rigid quartz]

"TArkOv dID iT!"

[noble siren]

Marathon is a pump and dump for destiny 3 confirmed

[fiery root]

Destiny 3 is already dumped tho

[clear sequoia]

Marathon is most akin to an Apex Legends

[quick moss]

But they scrap destiny 3 long time ago

[main prism]

why would i want to play pure PvE in an extraction shooter i might as well just play other single player PvE looters

[fiery root]

Blah

[gritty urchin]

Tarkov also has a die hard audience. Marathon is currently trying to manifest an audience 💀

[clear sequoia]

Same exactly the exact same exact thing as that.

[main prism]

ape sex legends

[quick moss]

Cause no one plays extraction ahooters

[main prism]

please see tarkov

[clear sequoia]

It's not about liking Apex or not. Same thing tho

[echo shuttle]

small player base and big company dont go well. Game will go bye bye esp if they sell skins cause most prob wont bye for pve as compared to pvp. My final point being that a pve would just not be good enough to make it not cause problems

[main prism]

when did i say anything about liking it

[upper storm]

#1, because the extraction formula and looter shooter formula are completely different

#2, cus you want to play this game, this one right here, this exact game, just as pve instead of pvp

[fiery root]

Dis game like overwatch dis game like dis game dis game same as battle royale game cuz it have shield and guns

[worthy totem]

Remember that’s on PC 😂

[upper storm]

this is probably all true as well

[main prism]

?????????????? you're high

[quick moss]

That's no extraction shooter

[noble siren]

When was the last time yall saw a game with this poor of an alpha actually turn out to be a decent game?

[main prism]

correct

[upper storm]

how am I high?

[rigid quartz]

Nah... the devs said nah you can't.

[gritty urchin]

Bruh extraction shooters is one of the most fun I’ve had in video games, don’t allow Bungie to throw a bad taste in ur mouffff. Bungie thinks they know the genre but clearly don’t.

[clear sequoia]

Taking a chance on a new genre for the cash grab. Same. Thing. Nerd.

[fiery root]

I liked the alpha it was flawed but alpha was fun

[zealous hornet]

first time for everything i suppose, but i wont count on it lmao

[main prism]

you must be dumb

[woven crown]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thank-you-thank-you-bounce-meme-gif-10944003423813121672

[main prism]

extraction shooters ARE looters bruh

[noble siren]

Brother I want what you’re smoking

[main prism]

raw

[echo shuttle]

Wait what?

[quick moss]

Nvm thought it was another game I was thinking of

[fiery root]

When did chasing genre become a cash grab? Not saying it isn’t but i remember when people said arc raiders going from PvE to extract was chasing trends.

Is it possible the gameplay loop just works well when its informed by other genres?

[main prism]

turns out you're just dyslexic

[echo shuttle]

LOl i was about to be really curious what you reasoning was

[quick moss]

Nah I'm just sumb

[upper storm]

it's so weird how gamers talk about games like they're commodities. "why wouldn't I go play a different looter shooter" cus idk, i don't want to play destiny or borderlands. their stories and art aren't intereting. i wanna play marathon. they're not interchangeable

[noble siren]

Destiny art not being interesting is a wild take

[real tiger]

Chasing trends is the name of the game right now its not inherently bad the execution of the trend you are chasing definitely matters.

[main prism]

marathon 2025 is the prime example of a trend chasing project tho it's pretty obvious from all the intel that we have rn

[clear sequoia]

I'd say Arc is different since they only tried one thing first. They weren't pumping out several The Finals games before making the jump.

[main prism]

games ARE commodities

[fiery root]

Ill expand on this, i used to love apex, then it just got super old to me, and the monetization got bad.

I dont want to play apex anymore, i played 100 hours of the marathon alpha. And i would like to play more

[ember crater]

Im a commodity, come get some

[main prism]

reasoning being it's been regurgitated for over 10 years

[gritty urchin]

Bruh they’re enemies learn from players. Teach themselves how to eliminate players and evolve over time.

[upper storm]

anyway i disagree with this, the looter shooter genre is generally marked by heavy use of RPG mechanics, level scaling, and horde based enemy design. extraction shooters usually have more skill based combat and a completely different game rhythm

[main prism]

what do you extract??????????? like

[rigid quartz]

same here. I was a pandemic Apex grinder.

[clear sequoia]

I mean that sounds cool and all but it's a totally different point.

[gritty urchin]

https://youtu.be/0cF-_hUtiOs?si=2-OEO_8088dT788g

[main prism]

same, dad

[gritty urchin]

Ik I’m just hype about the game

[clear sequoia]

I'll play it for sure.

[fiery root]

Thats exactly my point. Execution matters. Games are interative, marathon could be argued to be a doom clone back in the day. But it pushed the genre forward. I just think dunking on a game purely for chasing trends is stupid as shit.

[rigid quartz]

awwwn... I live with my kid though. you're not him

[main prism]

says who|| i'm in your walls||

[gritty urchin]

Watch that vid link I posted from YT

[upper storm]

no, they're not. a commodity is a good that is functionally interchangeable with another regardless of the source. you go to the store and look at bananas, you don't really give a shit where each banana came from, you're just going to buy whichever one is freshest and cheapest. they're all just bananas

every game is a unique product that cannot be directly substituted for another

same with movies, music, books, etc

[main prism]

games ARE interchangeable. i can play the finals if i don't want to play apex. i can play destiny 1 if i don't want to play destiny 2. I can play doom if i don't want to play animal crossing.

[fiery root]

Ya idk that game just lost the sauce for me, i think also as a titanfall player. It hurts more seeing that game get even more dopey from money chasing.

Marathon tbh didnt rlly feel like apex to me aside from the shields. But i enjoyed the jump in a match nature of marathon. It felt like an arcadey extraction shooter

[gritty urchin]

https://youtu.be/0cF-_hUtiOs?si=2-OEO_8088dT788g

[echo shuttle]

Why you keep posting this lol?

[gritty urchin]

Hopefully Bungie sees it and stops being shit

[upper storm]

you're missing the point on purpose i guess. SYL

[echo shuttle]

Conversate with us chief, they aint watching that

[main prism]

i'm really not. games ARE interchangeable. I can play warzone if i don't want to play apex. I can play marvel rivals if I don't want to play OW2. you're the one who's confused.

[fiery root]

Oh no chat is becoming people defining terms like its freshman year of business school again. Lets not get back to explaining supply and demand quite yet plz

[upper storm]

hell yeah

i got to play about 15 hours of marathon. really excited for release, despite everything

[main prism]

i didn't jump down this rabbit hole i just responded in kind.

[gritty urchin]

I just think it’s amazing and that I expect in the big 2025. AI enemies that learn from the players

[main prism]

didn't they do this in WoW once

[fiery root]

I swear by this and ive stood by this since day 1 of the hate/cope train. If the game is good people will play it

[echo shuttle]

Yeah I watched it before and its dope

[gritty urchin]

I’m not experienced enough in the wow field to answer that lol

[fiery root]

Pretty much 90% of the alpha players i talked with said they were mixed on it at first but when it clicks it rlly clicks

[main prism]

i think it was one of the larger DLC's that they released a sort of "virus-like" algorithm and it kicked players' asses

[gray river]

That wow dlc filtered the casual from the hardcore player

[gritty urchin]

Yeah I’m tired of the code to do predictable actions. I want the things to learn from the players so every engagement is fresh and continuously challenges the player even months and months down the road

It’s the future of gaming tbh and not enough put the effort to implement it in their game

[fiery root]

I remember when bungie released myth II and it bricked peoples computers lol

[gray river]

Ive seen a mmo thats supposed to come out were the monster learn from the player and will addapt their strategy around what you do like targeting the healer and things like that

[gritty urchin]

Ashes?

[main prism]

idk those kinda always flop

[gray river]

Might be cant remember, ive seen it as a work in progress on the internet

[echo shuttle]

oh man i havnt checked in on ashes of creation in a MINUTE

[gritty urchin]

I’m a backer for that game and it’s gonna change the mmo space

[main prism]

says every MMO dev ever☠️

[obsidian plover]

[echo shuttle]

Seems cool but its prob still 2035 inbound

[gray river]

We said the same thing about new world and its dead

[gritty urchin]

I mean yeah, but I’ve closely followed and looks good. Won’t hold my breath though

[main prism]

new world? tf is that kekw

[obsidian plover]

What’s new world

Sounds dumb af

[gritty urchin]

Open development so you can see what’s up

[main prism]

best to not LOL

i can't wait to go swimming today holy SHIT

[obsidian plover]

Huh

[echo shuttle]

I enjoyed new world on release but it had ZERO endgame to do. An mmo with no endgame might as well stay in development

[gritty urchin]

I can’t wait to get off work to go to my other job🫡🔥

[obsidian plover]

Why go swimming when you could get a job?

[main prism]

i played it for like 2 mins and got bored

[main prism]

because swimming is more fun than a job and i'd much rather work on a farm than in front of a desk

[obsidian plover]

Sounds lame, desk job would be much better

[echo shuttle]

2min is wild lol

[main prism]

ngl being dead sounds fire

[main prism]

yeah wasn't the most exciting game ever

[obsidian plover]

@ionic hedge

[ionic hedge]

wha

[main prism]

was new world developed by amazon or something

[echo shuttle]

It wasnt crazy but I enjoyed it TILL endgame. There was nothing, I feel like they shoulda cooked way longer cause they prob wont get alot of players back cause of how it went. First impressions are so important which is why marathon better be cooking even if it means delaying

[gray river]

After that there was throne and liberty

[echo shuttle]

oh god not throne and liberty

[main prism]

i didn't even get past the tutorial

that's how poorly it left an impression on me

[echo shuttle]

Bruh. you didnt even play the game then

[gray river]

Mmo i spent the most time on was bdo

[main prism]

nope it was not fun for me

ngl not a fan of MMORPG's

[ember crater]

Im sorry

[main prism]

i just be shootin and tootin

[obsidian plover]

🤝

[echo shuttle]

I put too many hours in bdo i wish i got back. Its got a cool combat but man its too pay2win/whale

[true mountain]

omg fortnite is back on the app store

[gray river]

I stopped playing at true end game content cause it took too much time to get there

[true mountain]

l apple
w epic

[echo shuttle]

I mean the endgame content really isnt impressive ATLEAST when i played it. Its essentially unlocked new areas to farm mobs in ccircles

[main prism]

the only endgame i'm playing is getting that culo

[ember crater]

I got snapped out of the grind fairly early when I failed to upgrade my weapon twice in a row, crashed out and deleted my account. Genuinely for the best

[echo shuttle]

Farm in circles in higher and higher tier areas and use the moonie to buy stuff. OHH and dont get me started o nthe crafting system. WORST system ever

idk why i played over a 1000 hours tbh

[main prism]

how tf do you fail to upgrade a weapon

[true mountain]

epic is so nice to not increase their prices for vbucks

[main prism]

that's just fucked LMFOAOOOOOOOOOOO

[ember crater]

Lmao you sweet summer child

[main prism]

HOW BRO YOU JUST HOLD E

[main prism]

what the fuck why is it RNG

[ember crater]

Not only do you fail but your weapon downgrades at a certain point and you lose everything

[main prism]

shit ass game design

[ember crater]

Agreed

[echo shuttle]

it has chances to fail in bdo and the chances get REALLY low. And when you fail it downgrades and if you try upgrading back to where you were, it can fail and downgrade again

[main prism]

fuck ass system

[ember crater]

Reasonable crashout imho

[echo shuttle]

Worst crafting system to ever exist

[main prism]

HUH bro who the fuck would play this game ||you apparently||

[ember crater]

Mhm

[gray river]

Accessories straight up ge destroyed when you faill too

[echo shuttle]

Dude the only reason its cool is the combat system. The abilities and classes are really cool ngl

[main prism]

so you could spend up to like 50 hours farming 1 thing and when you upgrade the thing it could be downgraded and trashed??????????????

[ember crater]

Do you remember the exploit where you killed horses to stack failstacks? I tried to explain it to someone recently

[echo shuttle]

That is one thing bdo does well. Abilities and classes

[ember crater]

Lmao yep getting announcements when people failed too

[main prism]

if i have to deal with my shit breaking and RNG deciding if i can upgrade my shit or not then like that's the negatives outweighing the positives for me

[echo shuttle]

Nah i never heard of that. I would just fail stack on shitty gear

[gray river]

Grind 20 hours to try to upgrade and accessories with 8% chance of success so you cand get 5 more power to grind 3% faster

[main prism]

wait it announces in the world chat that you failed to upgrade a piece of equipment???? that's actually funny as fuck

[echo shuttle]

Oh yeah I mean its terrible but man bdo could honestly be a dope ass mmo if it wasnt so greedy but it seems most korean mmos are like thjat

[main prism]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you might as well get a fucking job

[ember crater]

Bruh everything gets announced to the server its hilarious and annoying af

[main prism]

most of them are

[main prism]

/kickall LMFAOOOOOOO

[magic rose]

Bungie’s Art Director should just delay Marathon and copy Arc Raiders art design since he already got away with stealing artwork.

[gray river]

Theres people doing this as a job grinding x billion of gold for you for cash

[main prism]

did he actually

[echo shuttle]

I think a new mmo comes out this year called chrono odyssey. It looked cool from the trailer but I mean WE WILL SEE. Cant get hyped for nothinganymore. Might be next year actually idk

[main prism]

wait fr lemme do that then

[rigid quartz]

WOW back in the days...

[ember crater]

Its a shame cause yeah the actual combat of BDO was great but it was used for hours rounding up mobs mindlessly while drooling

[main prism]

15% fail chance 50% degradation for 2% increase in performance and 1.5% better farming efficiency

[ember crater]

I still kinda miss the lance Ascension combat

[gray river]

Yeah game went from end game zone and gear grinding 1 billion an hour to now like a 100 billion an hour economy is just so out of place

[main prism]

BDO just looks like any korean game ever made

[echo shuttle]

I mainly played sage and lahn. Sages abilities are so fucking beautiful

[iron aspen]

BDO?

[ember crater]

They tend to have good gameplay surrounded by horribly systems upon systems

[main prism]

slim ass model ass characters plastic ass faces looking like clones ass game

[gray river]

Problem is bdo had no group content at all its more like a beat them all build as a mmo

[echo shuttle]

I hate that bdo has cool abilities and combat cause its in such a greedy ass structure of a game

[noble siren]

Idk how ppl enjoy bdo

[main prism]

by watching the world chat

[gray river]

Its the best combat system in all of mmo and its not even close

[echo shuttle]

yes i agree

[ember crater]

Mhm

[main prism]

i wish i enjoyed mmorpgs

[ember warren]

too bad the game is the worst ever

[echo shuttle]

If anyone isnt familiar with bdo go look at sage bdo trailer for a lil reference on how the abilites can look.

[iron aspen]

wtf is bdo

[gray river]

And when they remastered the game if your pc could run it with turning into an oven it was fucking pretty

[echo shuttle]

black desert online

[ember warren]

if anyone isnt familiar with bdo look at all the ways you can p2w

[iron aspen]

m

[ember warren]

m

[ember crater]

Bowel Disturbance Ouch

[ember warren]

yes bro

[valid dome]

Big Damn Octopus

[main prism]

ok yeah i mean it's pretty but goddamn i cannot see shit beyond the screen shaking as if the screen was in a strip club and the overcrowded mobs lmfaooo

[iron aspen]

Truth nuke if true

[echo shuttle]

eh i mean the shake is just normal settings stuff

[main prism]

why does screen shake exist bruh

like the worst feature in a game ever

[gray river]

I wouldnt say its pay to win since nothing is paywalled it just make access to the end game faster, and except if your a whale dropping 100k in the game it dosnt make a huge difference since everything is luck based

[brittle light]

Is marathon up ???

[main prism]

no

[valid dome]

I play Wurm and Star Citizen, wanna talk about pay to win??? Lmaoo

[main prism]

so it's also a gacha wtf

[echo shuttle]

Nah its def pay2win like big time

[soft inlet]

lemme get a key bruh

[main prism]

ALPHA IS OVER MY GOD

[gray river]

The true question "is marathon still comming out"

[ember warren]

i dont play any of these games i play halo, league and subnautica

[main prism]

asking the big questions

[main prism]

oxford commas are important

[ember warren]

im working on it dw

[iron aspen]

wait when's the destiny alpha

[main prism]

2015

[iron aspen]

did i miss it

[ember warren]

nah dw

[iron aspen]

coolio

[gray river]

Destiny 3 alpha when?

[main prism]

in your dreams

[ember warren]

working on that too hold on dont rush me bro

[iron aspen]

well he did ask when

[main prism]

when you ascend to godhood

[echo shuttle]

GOGOGOGO

[iron aspen]

oh

[main prism]

LET HIM COOK

[ember warren]

aaand its cancelled good going too much stress i got scared ;-;

[gray river]

A new game without an engine 20 years old with spaghetti code would be so great

[main prism]

WAIT NO DONT LET HIM COOK

[echo shuttle]

😂

[main prism]

you're just wishing for too much

[ember warren]

ill do it for you thank you kevin kell of crack

[main prism]

thank you charles, i will gift you some crack

[ember crater]

Yknow what I'm gonna break the mold

[ember warren]

no black mold maxxing??

[ember crater]

A game with conventionally attractive Korean women in minimal clothing with flashy combat

I know. Brave

[clear sequoia]

Of course.

[ember warren]

grummzslop

its gonna rake in 1 million players on launch and retain 5

[ember crater]

Lmao I legit can't commit to the bit if It means being associated to that blob gdi

[valid dome]

REAL

[ember warren]

my bad for putting that on you

[gray river]

Lets release a game full of femboy and feet instant success guaranteed

[kindred vigil]

what

[ember warren]

ayo?????

[main prism]

very revolutionary

[magic rose]

dont know what youre expecting of a singleplayer game

[ember warren]

a cycle of players

[magic rose]

they dont typically "retain" players unless theres some sort of endgame loop

[main prism]

yeah put in strikes and patrols and shit

[main prism]

internet cat boys

[ember warren]

needs more public events

[true mountain]

better than marathon tbh

[arctic anvil]

I like this coinage , Grummzslop , though his game his girls look like GARBO lmao

[true mountain]

marathon will be forgotten within 3 months after release

[arctic anvil]

Idk, you never see Tarkov or Hunt in the mainstream gamer stuff much besides once awhile

[magic rose]

youre being really generous

[main prism]

no one makes them heroic tho FUCK

[arctic anvil]

This genre isnt really a headline turner much

[ember warren]

we dont need those

[main prism]

i WANT LOOT

[true mountain]

you are right, maybe 2 weeks after release

[magic rose]

both games have a steep learning curve and limited appeal in their gameplay systems
they are for a.... certain kind of player
you know the kind

[true mountain]

another tarkov clone with generic sci-fi vibes

[main prism]

concord 2

[ember warren]

2 tokens and a blue

[main prism]

good enough for me i'mma go smack rahool

[gray river]

I dont understand how they chose to go all in in a game style thats so niche

[arctic anvil]

Tbf Bungie is kinda like that

[main prism]

Evolve looks fun but idk how many people are playing it, plus the aesthetic changes while evolving is kinda... minimal?

[clear sequoia]

They could have played it safe(r) and created a Destiny 2 Battle Royal.

[valid dome]

Feeling bold today are we?

[ember warren]

like the game from like 2014?

[main prism]

i mean it essentially is

[ember warren]

ill remember it

[true mountain]

im feeling bold everyday

[main prism]

yes evolve 2014

[arctic anvil]

Or lords of the Fallen

[proud plinth]

Hello

[valid dome]

I fuckin loved evolve, great beta period

[ember warren]

game was peak during its prime

[true mountain]

jesus

[arctic anvil]

Im that ceos #1 enemy on twitter cause I shit on him whenever I can

[main prism]

like titanfall

[modest tendon]

Is this the real Marcus Fenix?

[true mountain]

evolve is so ass

[ember warren]

apex prime was better tbh

[main prism]

haha no.

[finite forum]

I keep hearing extraction shooters are oversaturated. Has anyone here played lots of extraction shooters before. Marathon would be my first one tbh.

[proud plinth]

Jeez, the fact that people say your game sucks and should be canceled...

[valid dome]

Back from reddit so soon?

[main prism]

2019 -2021 apex was fun

[proud plinth]

Yeah, watch this, QUE DETALLE

[arctic anvil]

Idk the steamcharts are hilarious to look at haha yes

[clear sequoia]

Games are rarely canceled.

[true mountain]

fortnite will never die

[main prism]

just like you

[ember warren]

was PEAK

[arctic anvil]

Hes over here gloating about le players first this and that and then admits his game didnt break even AFTER 2 YEARS LMAO

[finite forum]

Ok

[true mountain]

nice observation. i do have buttcheeks

[gray river]

Problem is most extraction shooter dont retain player except real hardcore one

[arctic anvil]

Makes twitter polls all day but never actually askes any souls tubers to try his 2.0 out

[valid dome]

Really just needs to be more casual, hunt does well for itself

[proud plinth]

What would be worse for Sony? If they cancel the release of Marathon? Or if it fails catastrophically and no one buys it?

[finite forum]

Both have the same outcome money wise

[arctic anvil]

Delay it probably , I mean we still dunno what the full game is like bar the art stuff

[fickle bronze]

To be fair, I'm sure a lot of games are cancelled but we just never hear of them

[valid dome]

What happens if a lot of people like it when it comes out, will you be happy?

[clear sequoia]

There really isn't enough quality versions in existence to have an established rule-set like that just yet imo.

[main prism]

thanks

[civic beacon]

In a different timeline

[main prism]

keyword "was"

[finite forum]

It seems like people are constantly complaining there are too many Ex Shooters but only know about like 3

[ember warren]

yeah but imma be fr in its prime i think it was the best game maybe ever if not top 3

[clear sequoia]

I mean how many games have you never heard about tho? I feel like you are just speculating with absolutely zero facts.

[true mountain]

ksi made a game?

[main prism]

i agree actually apex was very healthy for a time

[arctic anvil]

Ye theres only like 3 and a bunch of smaller ones

[valid dome]

Thats because there's only been like a dozen, some really small over the last handful of years.

[main prism]

i never heard about concord until it flopped like magikarp

[ember warren]

they need to have apex season og tbh

[gray river]

Hunt average 11k player thats okay for a game in this style but marathon will need more to make it worth

[main prism]

they just need to revert all the changes and throw us back into year 2

[arctic anvil]

concord was announced like 2 months before release with 1 beta weeks before it was out

[valid dome]

Sure, but Marathon already has way more mass appeal as well

[clear sequoia]

One insures a loss of money while the other offers a chance at no loss of money. Is it that hard?

[true mountain]

is trump jewish?

[feral arch]

Hunt was double that before 1896

[limber ridge]

so who thinks this is concord 2.0?

[valid dome]

This is the guy from earlier who was copy pasting reddit posts and getting mad about anyone disagreeing

[stone ferry]

how i get that discord icon

[ember warren]

you cant anymore 💔

[valid dome]

Concord was a unique circumstance, nothing will blow like that again

[feral arch]

That only means it's more generic.

[main prism]

difficult to say bro the suicide squad game was pretty shit

[stone ferry]

rats :<

[arctic anvil]

The concord comparison was made by bad faith actors to begin with

[clear sequoia]

I don't copy and paste anything bro. But I have witnessed it.

[true mountain]

i want to be sucked on

[valid dome]

Spiderpigg had to log on on his alt lolol

[finite forum]

I don't think the game will be awful but it just feels like a bad investment for Bungie/Sony. Imagine spending 300mil to develop a rougelite. You just aren't going to make your money back. That's how I see Ex shooters. A niche genre.

[limber ridge]

sureeeeee

[ember warren]

im pretty sure it still gets updates

[arctic anvil]

So many intrinsic things that make it different if you like data

[valid dome]

No I mean Marcus lol

[feral arch]

No I can't. I'm only a pig.

[arctic anvil]

I def think this heat for them will help the game tbh

[proud plinth]

unless it comes out like Concord and they have to give refunds

[gray river]

If they dont release i think they can write of taxes as a business venture that was scraped

[arctic anvil]

They have time unlike concord which had weeks before release

[proud plinth]

which is what is going to happen 99% sure

[feral arch]

Help Marathon? Lol.

[fickle bronze]

I mean we hear plenty about games that were cancelled ages ago. The titan fall extraction shooter, that last of us live service, the god of war live service, that old battlefront that no one knew existed until some devs talked about it and leaked some files, uhhh, there was a cancelled pokemon game mentioned in the big nintendo leak iirc. Probably plenty of others. This just doesn't typically get out to the public.

[arctic anvil]

I mean why not??? It reveals issues months before release so like what else?

[valid dome]

(So says your favorite youtuber)

[arctic anvil]

Like argue with a point

[dense goblet]

Paul Tassi hates marathon?

[arctic anvil]

He hates everything

[fickle bronze]

He's lost hope in it

[junior dome]

from 441k people in the server to 401k, yikes 10% left cus of the plagiarism

[feral arch]

You can play Star Wars Battlefront 3 right now if you go to the Free Radical discord.

[finite forum]

Corporations are greedy. They will release it and hope people buy the slop. If even some people do they can make it a long term recoupment

[valid dome]

Spiderpigg is an alt of a user who got laughed at earlier today, he's here to bait disregard. Look at his join date

[arctic anvil]

I had to rejoin but I was here day 1

[feral arch]

Because this was an obvious cash grab since the reveal.

[finite forum]

Did someone say 401K? Oooh retirement funds

[fickle bronze]

Oh I'm aware, already tried it. Sadly the AI seems busted, so there's not much to do besides walk around and look at stuff. The droids don't really shoot back, only melee

[main prism]

idk he seems like he likes to say whatever makes him more money

[arctic anvil]

Battlefront movement is sweet to see btw

[feral arch]

What console was it for, again?

[valid dome]

Nothing says 'cash grab' like reviving a 25 year old franchise in a niche genre lmao

[gray river]

And to answer an argument made earlier there was plenty of extraction shooter for a time and the trend died cause none could get traction cause extraction shooter takes a lot of time to learn and gather the ressources in game to compete

[fickle bronze]

don't recall. Probably the 360?

[arctic anvil]

I miss that game so much , coulda had Jod the pirate from skeleton crew as a hero or something

[clear sequoia]

I'm sure there are a lot of early ideas for games that never gain any traction. Or something vital fails early on. But most games that are announced see a release.

[fickle bronze]

Or maybe the wii

[feral arch]

And now I know you're lying. GG, well played.

[arctic anvil]

ERM well (villain)

[main prism]

SW battlefront 2 was fire

[arctic anvil]

EA was pychotic not upping the development of it when it was at its peak years after a disatrous pr incident

[valid dome]

The BF3 unfinished builds leaked like a year ago man, you're way out of date lol

[arctic anvil]

Like they somehow made it out and then moved the devs to BFV yuck

[ember crater]

Prey wasn't 😭

[feral arch]

People are greedy. Corporations are just groups of people.

[main prism]

this injustice and transgression toward battlefront shall not be forgiven

[arctic anvil]

Ashoka was coming and Assaj too :c

[main prism]

saying corporations are people is so out of touch

[river storm]

corporations HAVE to be greedy though. i think there’s a difference.

[feral arch]

Then the dude/dudette should have known which console it was for.

[main prism]

sad about it

[fickle bronze]

I... literally have the files still, and the only way to play it is through an emulator on PC. Wtf are you on about?

[arctic anvil]

Devs are people, management are still devs but tend to have to be more responsible and then there bosses no yuck

[valid dome]

Bf3 was for being devved for Xbox 360 lolol

[gray river]

Thing i hate most is that the future of the studio might be on marathon success and it will impact destiny 😦

[arctic anvil]

Unfortunantly everyone gets the shame cause well, maybe thatll get them to yell and group together internally

[feral arch]

Yeah, the property of emergence is not existent in our universe. Everything is made from the top-down.

[valid dome]

Bro doesn't know his lore and wants to talk shit, low effort bait

[main prism]

investors are vampires

[finite forum]

Well yes... That doesn't change what I said though

[feral arch]

"Things you never see: a mom and pop steel mill." - George Carlin

[clear sequoia]

The Concord situation is about the most one-of-kind thing you could point to. Have we ever seen anything like that before?

[fickle bronze]

You're an idiot, lmao

[arctic anvil]

Concord is more in relashion to say ET

[main prism]

definitely a spider talking

[river storm]

are we serious 💔

[nova whale]

Probably like 90% of “investors” are just pension funds for regular people

[valid dome]

Yeah again, they got muted earlier and are ban evading now lolol

[arctic anvil]

ET still the worst incident in gaming history

[fickle bronze]

Unsurprising.

[finite forum]

Concord isn't a fair comparison imo. I didn't even know that pos existed until it was already dead on arrival.

[feral arch]

That makes no sense. Spiders are smarter than lots of animals.

[proud plinth]

concord and marathon enter the chat

[main prism]

i mean, anthem was close

[feral arch]

Yeah, people aren't trying to make a living. They're greedy.

[main prism]

nah more like 9% since investors are mostly hedge funds

[nova whale]

Very true, I only heard of it after it was dead. 400k+ in this server of a popular developer

[proud plinth]

Sorry but...

[valid dome]

Yeah people still coming to beg for access all day too lol

[nova whale]

Join the dots. Who do you think those funds are for? Pensions

[main prism]

pigs are smarter than dogs doesn't mean they're better or higher in the animal hierarchy.

[proud plinth]

This reminds me a lot of Ubisoft

[thorn jetty]

Any news on bungie art borrowing

[river storm]

yeah no

[main prism]

hedge funds are not the same as pension investments

[arctic anvil]

Not yet, im assuming they are writing up stuff with the artist officially

[valid dome]

Art audit do be taking more than a week my friend

[main prism]

uhhhhhh

[feral arch]

Yeah, the property of emergence is lost on you guys.... Sorry.

[arctic anvil]

Bungie is not gonna close if thats what anyones thinkinggg

[river storm]

ubisoft is a different type of fucked, unfortunately

[main prism]

you definitely smoke heroin

[nova whale]

Pension or rainy day. It’s not like it’s 3 billionaires it’s just for regular people

[clear sequoia]

In a shocking twist the ex-Bungie developer and Antireal turned out to be the same person.

[valid dome]

Yeah you should probably head back to reddit where the true geniuses live, you'll have a better crowd

[river storm]

whoever thought bungie would close because of this needs to get their brain checked anyway.

[proud plinth]

It's going to be assimilated, just as the thing from the other world assimilated the inhabitants of the Arctic base.

[main prism]

more like 30 billionaires

[dreamy ivy]

You should smile more

[feral arch]

Heroin isn't even that good. So no, I don't/

[thorn jetty]

Actually? Haven't been following the situation at all lol

[arctic anvil]

I can see sony stepping in though in relashion to leadership

[main prism]

so you have smoked it before

[river storm]

how would you know without having taken it 💔

[dreamy ivy]

Keep yourself safe

[clear sequoia]

No lol

[thorn jetty]

Was yopeful

[oak elbow]

Has the game been cancelled yet

[arctic anvil]

They REALLY need to bring back the people who got canned without real cause last year

[valid dome]

Bro admits to being a smack head god damn lol

[feral arch]

What an low hanging insult. Good job.

[main prism]

yep self report

[ember mountain]

Mods really muted me for no reason

[arctic anvil]

Bunch of cool artists who got cut basically cause why not

[main prism]

they do that

[thorn jetty]

Microsoft basically did a hostile takeover of bungie and its very sad, the devs love us the CEO dont

[arctic anvil]

CEO NEEDED MORE CARS I GUESS

[feral arch]

You obviously don't know painkillers in a car crash situation.

[oak elbow]

Deserved

[river storm]

they do that sometimes
unless it’s auto mod muting you for random words

[main prism]

WHACK

[ember mountain]

I wasn’t even active

[valid dome]

Oh so it's brain damage, sorry then lad I shouldn't insult ya

[main prism]

it happens lol

[dreamy ivy]

Can i?

[main prism]

no

[dreamy ivy]

Oh ok...

I will not

[main prism]

i don't even know what i said no to

[arctic anvil]

Anyway back to Demstiny , cant escape that cult sadly then fried rice for din

[zenith merlin]

yeah heroin sucks, try meth instead, much better

[river storm]

right because when i crash my car and get an opioid injected to not pass away, im qualified to speak on whether said opioid is good or not ‼️

[finite forum]

Y'all ready to buy $20 skins

[oak elbow]

It will go f2p

[main prism]

you tellin me this shrimp fried this rice

[lusty cairn]

somebody just got timed out for saying the Z word

[main prism]

yall should try my crack

[river storm]

mmm wrapped my car around a tree yesterday. heroin? yeah can’t recommend.

[nova whale]

I stand corrected and apologise; hedge funds are for big investors and rich people. But original point of “investors” are 50-60% of the market by volume maybe not wealth

[main prism]

crack is better

[zenith merlin]

crack sucks, you only get high for like 10 mins

[finite forum]

I don't think so. Feels like $40 will still be the entry price. Plus a ton of mtx

[valid dome]

You hopped on an alt to come back here and rage, who's the keyboard warrior lol

[main prism]

mmmm idk if this statistic is correct, 50% of the market by volume is an insane amount of people

[finite forum]

Just do salvia

[river storm]

i got a degree in healthcare while you was sat shooting up heroin to give a yelp review on your local plug idk what you’re talking about.

[dense plume]

🍅 #artraiders

[main prism]

what's your substance of choice

[oak elbow]

Did u like the alpha i just didnt like the art style and UI feels like paint splashed in your face

[main prism]

2 stars, heroin not stonks enough

[dreamy ivy]

Baba bababababababababababababababababa ababababababab abab ababab babababababababab baba aba baba bababababababbababababababababab bab abab ba a aa aaaa bb abababababab bbaa aabb

[zenith merlin]

I used to be a tweaker big time but I'm clean now, just some weed

[thorn jetty]

This guy screams neck flaps

[valid dome]

your username is the same between both accounts lolol

[main prism]

i LOVE weed bro

[nova whale]

20% trade volume but as a percentage of the amount of investors it’s about 50%

[zenith merlin]

weed's p gud

smokin that bungie stolen art pack rn

[dense plume]

Weed is bad stop smoking

[dreamy ivy]

You stink you smell coz ur a smelly smell that smells so smell you later yo smelly smelling smells

[finite forum]

If you don't like the art style I would just go play any other extraction shooter then. I think the game is half baked but the art style is the only stand out

[valid dome]

Just so you know spiderpig is the guy who was going off about the age of consent in Japan this morning lmaoo

[main prism]

20% trade volume sounds a little more in line with what i had in mind but damn really 50% of investor volume are pension funds??

[main prism]

smell u later brodie

[zenith merlin]

Ikr, they have it so much better there

[river storm]

did they say it was too low? they strike me as that kinda person.

[dreamy ivy]

Gn

[oak elbow]

🤮🤢

[nova whale]

No just “retail investors” I should have clarified

[valid dome]

They had an intimate knowledge of when it changed, and talked about how women are obsessed with NTR fiction and how thats all they talk about lolol

[thorn jetty]

[main prism]

isn't the age of consent in japan like 16 or some shit but like 37 states in the US allow child marriage

[clever bluff]

Why that get deleted lmaooo

[main prism]

HUUUUH ok weirdo

[thorn jetty]

Fuck if i know 😭

[main prism]

gotcha that makes sense

[river storm]

statistically the ntr thing is true, unfortunately. i’ve had a a few friends who are japanese and currently in japan vent to me about that before. the age of consent thing is crazy tho.

[valid dome]

Point being is the dude is a lost coomer here to vent his sexual frustrations by raging about a video game, and got laughed at so hard he had to switch accounts to show his face

[thorn jetty]

What does NTR stand for

[oak elbow]

U dont have any friends what u talking about 😂

[nova whale]

Basically felt attacked as I’m just a regular dude with money in an index fund so I can retire and you’re calling investors bags of scum 🤣

[zenith merlin]

it's a cheating fetish

[thorn jetty]

Ew

Yeesh that's sad

[main prism]

don't the japanese society view hentee as a form of art, and most younger people view prostitution as a valid way of gaining intimacy outside of a legitimate relationship?

[river storm]

timmy tough knuckles over here.

[finite forum]

Korea didn't change it from 13 to 16 until 2020

[rigid quartz]

wow you need a break from this chat. these are bots hours man...

[zenith merlin]

damn, isn't there anywhere good left to vacation?

[valid dome]

Prepping for convention, have the next 5 days off im chilling :D

[river storm]

i don’t expect your frontal lobe to be developed enough to even understand what my status means.

[finite forum]

Well I live here so.

[ember mountain]

I’ll make sure you only have one day off

[oak elbow]

Ew dont talk to me 🤢🤮

[kindred vigil]

neeyth

[river storm]

neeyth.

[valid dome]

neeyth

[iron aspen]

teeth

[finite forum]

Yep either impeached or killed. Kind of a trend here. But personally I prefer it that way

[thorn jetty]

Holy underage

[ebon stream]

can you still get an alpha code or no?

[dense goblet]

The one before this last one got impeached lmao

[primal flicker]

The alpha ended weeks ago

[dense plume]

“Ex-Bungie dev says marathon leadership was “extremely toxic and humiliating” to work with: “bungie leadership needs to be gutted completely” is there any truth to this article?

[iron aspen]

no
it ended like 3 weeks ago

[nova whale]

All love, glad we can be civil in this uncivil gen chat 🤝

[valid dome]

Yes this is not news