🗣marathon-general-chat

[dusk badger]

Oh, god, it’s the 15th already?

[austere zodiac]

Sounds like you haven’t played it or even watched gameplay

[craggy crypt]

i'm still holding a grudge not being invited to the alpha

[prime ravine]

not the ARC Raiders player saying that bro 😭 (last part of the bit, I'll stop now)

[mellow fjord]

anyways I just came here to express how much I went from hoping this game to be good to absolutely hating it from what happened, and hating anyone who is ppriding for this company and a game that's just... mid atm

[magic rose]

If this isn’t addressed, if now or ever or just at all, I will not be supporting Marathon in this.

As an artist myself (musician), I can’t stand back and just be passive about this. I enjoy the community and truly loved my time with the game, but this might be it for me.

[celest raft]

relatively? Yeah, I agree, Arc is a bit less visually stylized, thats not an inherent downside but they could've done more

[ember crater]

It aint life unless your committed to spreading mind viruses

[celest raft]

it was facetious Bungierider

go back to smooching Joseph Cross' taint now

[near nexus]

had some guy down in the middle of the street on the sandy ass city map bc i was just playing that mostly for pvp and i shot this dude with a whole mag whilst he was down and he was still crawling lmaoo

[magic rose]

Correct and better yet. Putting it on a stove to heat it up a little more. Maybe burn it

[celest raft]

😈

the raid has begun

[strange quartz]

On top of marathon being mid gamplay wise, it stole its art. Just wow lol

[brave flame]

yeah man thats my bad

[austere zodiac]

Did you try ADSing?

[celest raft]

did you see this dawg??????

[prime ravine]

Woah woah woah, not an accurate insult, I dont much care about Marathon

[calm hazel]

When the shitty post apocalyptic scrabbled together starter guns feel…… shitty. Oh no the horror bro

[nocturne gate]

naw i watched it, its a great executuon of photogrammetry realism. it just feel liek something i've seen 10,000 before. it doesn't look bad. the gameplay loop looks better than amrathons BUT i still find it asthetically bland

[celest canopy]

So the art style everyone loves was stolen?

[strange quartz]

Yup lol

[celest raft]

yeah the TTK downed players is too long, what kind of ammo did you use? If the AI felt spongey, you have to shoot the wings/turbines of the flying ones, they have weak spots

[normal sluice]

its not even a question bro its like a DIRECT 1:1 rip LMAO

[austere zodiac]

https://x.com/4nt1r34l/status/1923067988871147605?s=46&t=N4ULD7OFD0G-NNFIY7tkYA

[prime ravine]

Yeah ARC copied Starfield, sadge (sorry sorry its addicting)

[mellow fjord]

both the company and the fans defending the game are pathetic, I'm ashamed that I was defending it just for a little

[magic rose]

We found my future

[karmic pumice]

B R O

[prime ravine]

who's we bro?

[celest raft]

I see what you mean in terms of the art a bit

[ember warren]

might hurt a lil

[brave flame]

ik, the fact I even had a second of hope for this game makes me wanna puke

[near nexus]

yeah i noticed the weak spots, AI was mostly fine apart from rocketeer shooting me through a wall without knowledge of me being there LMAO

[magic rose]

It isn’t the entire visual design that was stolen, but at least half of the “worldtext”, logos, and fonts used were stolen. I still tbink the original design was crafted by Bungie, but the language they used to augment that was totally stolen.

[celest raft]

this too, the rarer the guns, the less off they feel

[upper storm]

I have seen a hundred photorealistic brown post apocalyptic deserts and I will see a thousand more before the world goes dark and cold

[prime ravine]

ragebait aside, its Nasapunk, its a legit style

[strange quartz]

Lol at the people who still buy this mid game.
Its called marathon but I can't run for more the 10 seconds 🤪☠

[lavish solstice]

They're gonna have to hire and buy usage rights for antireal's stuff, so much of the game's artstyle seem to be based on their work they don't got much choice

[near nexus]

but pvp wise guns felt super mushy and i would like to feel more punch in them

[celest raft]

people complaining about Arc's guns would LOATHE Hunt Showdown

[prime ravine]

I lived in Marathon tho, did you live in the ARC? 🤨

[earnest veldt]

This is unreal man Bungie is doing a real good job at promoting Arc Raiders.

[near nexus]

yeah that game is clunky too

[winter briar]

NASAPunk is a sick aesthetic, just poor execution in terms of blending gameplay with worlbuilding/art

[magic rose]

Lmao

[karmic pumice]

I still can't get used to the iron sights being on the lower part of the screen in that game, lol

[craggy crypt]

don't even try to reason with him, he doesn't care

[unreal wraith]

They can sue whoever's responsible for this for putting their negotiating position in a vice later, but first they need to CONTRACT ANTIREAL

[ember crater]

I dont think Mararhon is very nasapunk, adjacent for sure

[celest raft]

have you ever shot or handled a gun before? Just asking.

[normal sluice]

Bungie can't help but shoot themselves in the foot every other month

[ember warren]

you can center them yknow

[mellow fjord]

I went from hoping this games to succeed to praying for the downfall of this game, I hope it dies on release I hope it's concord 2 I hope it's much worse than concord

[karmic pumice]

Aww sweet

[magic rose]

I’m trying to be measured in my frustration at least lol

[blissful marsh]

great gunplay!!! i hope they steal more TBH it makes the game better

[near nexus]

yes i was in cadets as a child and had good scores..#

[lavish solstice]

antireal said in a tweet they don't got money for a lawyer, they might have to put up a gofundme

[celest raft]

wdym by that?

[ember crater]

Oh I agree even less then

[prime ravine]

no we were talking ARC

[surreal nova]

The game made with literal AI art?

[brave flame]

I hope we see mass layoffs

[ember warren]

its in settings, although it is lowered for a reason because it helps you see whats above you becuz the game is pretty vertical

[celest raft]

not AI art, if you're gonna complain get it right

[calm hazel]

Bait or………..

[blissful marsh]

true! stolen art much better!

[soft saddle]

marathon is not looking good rn

[unreal wraith]

I'd pay into that - I've already bought their track here for four times the list price, and you can too: https://antireal.bandcamp.com/track/null-apophenia

[rancid pebble]

thats not design bro that just someone fucking around in mspaint 😭

[magic rose]

Yes

[normal sluice]

AI art would be more involved than the Marathon stealing 💔

[karmic pumice]

You know how in most FPS games your iron sight is in the middle of the screen? with Hunt Showdown it was in the lower thirds which made aiming feel very clunky.

[prime ravine]

she also said she doesnt want to pursue this legally. What we can really do is support her stuff

[near nexus]

stolen art eat my fart dont care

[celest canopy]

Apparently they stole the art style from ex concord devs

[celest raft]

someone else who played in the playtest literally said they saw it dawg stop this

[blissful marsh]

wait this is the case with bungie games too tho

[mellow fjord]

marathon is ass, they should just not release it anymore

[soft saddle]

Bungie execs sweating rn

[prime ravine]

ARC? damn that game keeps getting worse

[brave flame]

or even better, SONY just absorb Bungie best case scenario

[ember warren]

is it the case in d2? i know in halo it is

[earnest veldt]

feel free to show proof

[celest canopy]

Who you tryna fool man

[unreal wraith]

Yeah but if Bungie gets in touch and is like "what can we do to make this right with you" I bet things could work out well legally

[soft saddle]

How the fuck do you steal an artstyle

[karmic pumice]

Naw, It was in reference to the other guy mentioning Hunt showdown. I haven't really played any Bungie games.

[celest raft]

and Bingus

[brave flame]

its gonna be layoff season fs

[median trail]

https://tenor.com/view/marathon-bungie-sony-sie-ign-gif-12081522835338557720

[prime ravine]

If Glitch ends up being stolen, then its truly over

[dire bison]

ASSET THIEFS. NEVER GOING NEAR THIS GAME.

[austere zodiac]

Wow how lonely are you…

[celest raft]

Im so damn mad I can't send the Walter White falling gif

[mellow fjord]

boycott this shitty aah game

[celest raft]

@emo has a fart kink

[pastel hedge]

People on top getting what they deserve? Nope, it's the lower ones that are getting razed for this

[rancid pebble]

ik it exists in the game im saying thats not the one N² is referring to

[unreal wraith]

My dude give them a chance to CONTRACT ANTIREAL

[dire bison]

1000%

[celest canopy]

MARATHON VS CONCORD who wins?

[median trail]

As if bungie didnt learn it's lesson from the at minimum three other times of stealing art

[calm hazel]

People who say the game is shit and don’t buy the game > People who say the game great and don’t buy the game

[dire bison]

No chance, fk em all to death

[prime ravine]

not ARC

[prime ravine]

so you're buying day 1, got it

[celest canopy]

I don’t even like ARC

[craggy crypt]

thanks for letting us know, i'll pass the msg along 👍

[nocturne gate]

isn't it like up to 6-8 times now?

[austere zodiac]

At least concord had people that liked playing the game 😂

[unreal wraith]

Wait you're actually arguing that Bungie should not CONTRACT ANTIREAL?

[blissful marsh]

buying ten copies of this game to offset the whiners in this chat

[mellow fjord]

you're not allowed to talk bungirider

[near nexus]

all the stole art talk

[strange quartz]

Marathon is cooked

Destiny 2 is cooked

Bungie is cooked 💔

[brave flame]

whats that have to do with what I said lmao

[prime ravine]

bungierider*

[blissful marsh]

bungie is COOKING

[austere zodiac]

So that will be 415 copies

[brave flame]

thats why im saying Bungie has to be absorbed its only right

[median trail]

Was there more?

I know of these examples, plus the ongoing lawsuit for the red war

[celest raft]

doing tricks on it

[celest canopy]

I love how cooked this game is😭

[river remnant]

lol

[magic rose]

Over/Under how much of the design language of this was stolen

[blissful marsh]

hey, bungie innovates where nobody else does

[prime ravine]

93K watching instead of playing, uber dead game holy shit

[celest raft]

in stealing art?

[surreal nova]

Yeah; it wasn’t very fun, not sure why ya’ll do it so much

[median trail]

LOL

[mellow fjord]

today there's no defending this shitty game today is just hate and nothing else other than hate for this game

[dire bison]

I'm saying the deed is done, The people will fund antireals legal action.
She just needs to make a funding page and the community will step in to destroy bungie.
Make bungie pay for their crime.

[dark yoke]

Anyone who brings up the red war lawsuit is so god damn disingenuous read into it and you’ll see why

[brave flame]

and for the company too cmon now

[blissful marsh]

name one other team whose art team is engaging with the extraction shooter mechanics

[ember warren]

you are the most dedicated ragebaiter that is so bad at it lmao

[surreal nova]

I was just exaggerating in describing the incredibly generic art style

[celest canopy]

Making actual valid arguments. < 🤡

[median trail]

That's the current issue right now yeah

[brave flame]

and then mass layoffs hell yeah

[prime ravine]

and people still buy it, imagine how boring ARC got

[nocturne gate]

there was the ace of spaces nerf ornament theft too, i'm pretty sure tehres at least one more i'm missing too but i can't quite place it

[celest raft]

literally every other extraction shooter

[mellow fjord]

and the company they don't deserve to exist anymore and Idc if all the devs become jobless

[unreal wraith]

That's insane. Bungie's community and fans of antireal's aesthetic as realized therein don't want to destroy Bungie. I don't! I want them to make a great Marathon game, I loved the alpha, and I want them to CONTRACT ANTIREAL.

[dire bison]

HELL YEAH!

[craggy crypt]

not agreeing with him = ragebaiter. Makes sense

[near nexus]

ppl enjoy hating marathon more than they like playing arc raiders and it rly does show

[calm hazel]

🤡 <🫃?

[vagrant elbow]

What was the ongoings for that lawsuit.

[austere zodiac]

I mean it’s a shitty development company possibly stealing from a shitty writer to write a shitty campaign.

[prime ravine]

no no i AM a ragebaiter

[brave flame]

exactly, this is the energy we need

[blissful marsh]

on god the extraction shooter genre needs to crash and burn

[surreal nova]

None of this is gonna happen fyi, bungie will do what they did the last two times and no one will remember this in six months

[celest raft]

we CANT PLAY IT RIGHT NOW

[strange quartz]

played both, you can tell from just the arc tutorial alone that its better 😂

[ember warren]

he just admitted to ragebaiting cmon now

[dire bison]

I want bungie dead and the thiefs jobless

[prime ravine]

bro i've admitted to it 6 times

[sly sleet]

think that might be a little far

[austere zodiac]

Marathon has 1 player atm

[near nexus]

proper in ye ma's basement chattin aba marathons shit everyday maaad

[blissful marsh]

i want another six cars in pete's garage and the artists to starve

[earnest veldt]

interesting considering how well received arc raiders was, kind of just seems like brainless take.

[unreal wraith]

Cool, I don't want to talk to you anymore. Fortunately Discord has a feature for that.

[ember warren]

people just so dumb sometimes 💔

[prime ravine]

Pete isnt going to sleep with you bro

[near nexus]

arse raider

[celest raft]

I think Marathon glazers like defending the game in here more than playing the actual game lmao

[blissful marsh]

i got four tires

[mellow fjord]

Yeah I hope they go work in a better company that at least doesn't make them steal art

[median trail]

I just find it funny how they're having such a hard time defending themselves in court because that content is gone, the people who made it can't even get it to work lmfao

[celest canopy]

Bungie has something really special on their hands with marathon. 💪

[austere zodiac]

Cry

[dire bison]

?

[prime ravine]

You are getting mad sexed on

[rancid pebble]

the guy that makes elaborate minimalist designs isnt gonna hide chicken scratches in his art this isnt actually what hes talking about

[ember warren]

theres two ragebaiters now

[near nexus]

is it braindead or are they all in here hahahhaa#

[nocturne gate]

WAAAAy more than two

[unreal wraith]

Only if they pay the people who developed its aesthetic - they need to CONTRACT ANTIREAL

[earnest veldt]

yeah it’s brain dead thanks for asking

[near nexus]

i was excited for arc raiders until i figured what pvp was

[ember warren]

i havent been playing attention i was playing halo 3 :3

[prime ravine]

AI voice your way out of this

[magic rose]

I am sad about this y’all, Marathon was up there with my most anticipated games this year

[vagrant elbow]

A resolution is needed, but are this rage bait from those are disingenuous and want to see this game cancelled is very apparent.

[celest canopy]

On a real note. You 100% right

[unreal wraith]

Don't give up, demand better than you expect!

[dire bison]

AntiReal should sue bungie into the ground

[rancid pebble]

thats crazy lol

[blissful marsh]

it's bananover

[versed ridge]

wait so they blamed everything on 3rd party

[austere zodiac]

I’m currently playing Destiny 2 - it’s a decent game.

[stuck dagger]

guys howre we feeling about the stolen art

[prime ravine]

it only got bananabetter

[weary finch]

Pissed

[nocturne gate]

any statements?

[mellow fjord]

where's the get out sfx??

[velvet glade]

It is what it is

[versed ridge]

https://x.com/taucetigg/status/1923108714254409854?s=46

bungie said it was 3rd party for typography

[celest raft]

why did it screenshot twice before

[magic rose]

The only consolation I can be reasonably happy with, both for N2 and for the community at large, is a hiring of N2 as design manager/art manager, and a commitment to keeping all art in-house for the foreseeable future.

[mellow fjord]

I just wanna say that the finals was a side project btw and it's still doing kinda well

[celest canopy]

100 Swedish devs vs 4 billion dollar company stealing art. Who wins?

[craggy crypt]

they didn't say anything, that post is old

[nocturne gate]

this aint a statement about the theft its just background info,

[versed ridge]

3rd party made typography not bungie

contracted studio stole

[blissful marsh]

holy... what a dome...

[near nexus]

almost like all the arse raiders and destiny PVE lurches dislike bombed

[celest raft]

BAAALD, BAAALD, BAAAAAALD, BAAAAAAALD

[craggy crypt]

we don't know how much they actually made for the game

[austere zodiac]

This game is cooked too don’t worry. This is the cash cow that paid for marathon development.

[celest canopy]

100 Swedish devs FTW!! 🙌

[celest raft]

how much copium do you have my god

[mellow fjord]

bro you're talking to braindead fans it doesn't matter they don't care about the facts they wanna ppride buinge that's all

[magic rose]

Speaking of sad

Chat, should I buy Clair Obscur?

I am like 🤏 close to pulling my wallet out to buy.

[prime ravine]

Before i say this, how long have you been playing D2?

[blissful marsh]

guys can we post only dome for the next fifteen minutes

[versed ridge]

if we know bungie all of their content was made by 3rd party

[solar quartz]

Can I get a single piece of good news about this game 😩

[near nexus]

thats what im asking u abt ur clunky fake PVP shooter

[celest canopy]

Bruh it’s a branded chat. Let me waste my time how I want

[digital siren]

Like three or four off the top of my head

[magic rose]

This is about the 9th in the last 5 years

[calm hazel]

Wonder if destiny 3 has already be green lighted after Bungie saw marathons reception

[nocturne gate]

i mean maybe, also maybe not, pete parson himself could have driven by and nabbed em. better to wait for info than speculateing wildly and getting mad at ghosts

[prime ravine]

3 times, all by the same dev team

[magic rose]

i will not be dojng this.

[celest raft]

how is it fake when Marathon has the bullet magnetism and aim assist @near nexus

[white storm]

Use gamepass an beat the game an cancel subscription

[ember warren]

get gamepass

[blissful marsh]

its almost to the point where bad news would flip around to being good news

like if this game got delayed everyone would celebrate

[prime ravine]

Nah.

[magic rose]

I am on PS5

[digital siren]

Oh 🧍

[white storm]

Gross

[near nexus]

ppl gonna wall minge off its ass on that game too lmao

[craggy crypt]

we'll see once they make a statement

[austere zodiac]

I don’t even remember - probably 4000 hours in. Somewhere around 5 years

[dire bison]

Yah.

[versed ridge]

pretty much why i said what i said its been known they were doing the typography for a while

[stone pilot]

Well

[celest raft]

aim assist in an extraction shooter is a sentence I never wanna utter ever again

[magic rose]

I am on PS5 and I love buying physical copies of games

[velvet glade]

Clair obscur is most overhyped game, South of Midnight clears it

[prime ravine]

"Destiny is dying" has been a thing we've been saying for 11 years, it really isnt gonna happen soon

[final belfry]

“I hope you step on a Lego” is wishful thinking. “I hope Bungie steals your art style” is a credible threat.

[ember warren]

dang cant help you there pal

[dire bison]

no

[magic rose]

What about a conviction!

[prime ravine]

kinda true, endings sucked imo

[near nexus]

you're prolly horrible on MNK if u r saying console dont need aim assist

[celest raft]

?

[stone pilot]

This isn't the reason I wanted general chat to get active again 🫃

[magic rose]

“I’ll take bait for 1000, Alex”

[austere zodiac]

People said that when I started. I think it became official after the Final Shape Layoffs.

[celest raft]

no im saying the game should have no aim assist, none, its a horrible idea for an extraction shooter

[calm hazel]

Invis shotgun in a extraction shooter is 100% thought out and not something only a coked out Bungie mind could say with a straight face

[blissful marsh]

1 raid per year, no legendary campaign, and we still going 💪

[unreal wraith]

I don't think not hiring independent artists is a good cure!

[celest raft]

Apex with permadeath fr

[near nexus]

so you want to gun down console players for free cool

[prime ravine]

and then they announced the new multi year DLC Saga, its just drama bait for more interaction at this point

[craggy crypt]

at least we have 3rd person peeking in arc, PEAK

[celest raft]

play better

[blissful marsh]

actually i paid 40 bucks so

[prime ravine]

Destiny 2 will truly die when there is no drama about it

[near nexus]

just say you are bad

[austere zodiac]

No, it’s genuinely gone downhill. Episodes are dog water

[celest raft]

I don't need aim assist dawg

[nocturne gate]

it will outlive us all then

[ember crater]

Just allow to turn off crossplay holy hell it aint that deep

[magic rose]

I agree! Hiring independent artists to work in-house is viable, I think!

EDIT: That’s how im doing it for my game, anyway

[near nexus]

im saying how free the kills would be

[prime ravine]

Heresy was universally loved

[celest raft]

then disable mandatory crossplay and remove it

[celest canopy]

So we steeling now?

[near nexus]

im MnK lmao..?

[nocturne gate]

herasy was pretty good, story especially

[rancid pebble]

real and true fuck french people 💯 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[blissful marsh]

they paid 40 bucks to get killed by me too so its like 80 dollar total to make it even happen

[unreal wraith]

I guess I don't understand what you mean then! But I bet we agree in principle.

[ember crater]

And?

[toxic knot]

Controller players should get bodied, simpul az

[strange quartz]

Don't worry that star wars expansion will pay for more sports cars for the ceo. Just keep buying till it turns into fortnite

[austere zodiac]

Gotta love $100 dlc every year.

[blissful marsh]

deserved for playing the game with children's tilt controls

[near nexus]

shouldn't have to turn off crossplay, i'd rather my friends on controller be able to have fun?

[celest raft]

controller players shouldn't be babied with aim assist in every single game that comes out, as someone who's played games with a controller very recently

I hate it

[lusty cairn]

Marathon won! 🫃

[prime ravine]

Will do 🫡

[surreal nova]

Very bad take. South of midnight has a great setting but very mediocre gameplay. Expedition 33 does both well

[rancid pebble]

wait nevermind disregard both games are ass

[near nexus]

so now controller getting aim assist is bad, these MnK bots moving maddd

[toxic knot]

Isn't ARC that abandonware dinosaur game?

[blissful marsh]

controller players should stick to their baby games like mario and astro bot

[vagrant elbow]

That is why I'm staying neutral until further actions are done. The people who claim to enjoy arc raiders is focus on beating down marathon instead of trying to get the general chat back opened on the raiders server.

[ember crater]

Then dont, that's whats called an Option. Options are optional! Wild stuff amirite?

[celest canopy]

Damn that makes the fall off even worse

[near nexus]

just say you aim with your balls

[prime ravine]

no thats better than this ARC

[craggy crypt]

moving goalposts 💀

[blissful marsh]

and madden, controller players love madden like nobody's business

[austere zodiac]

Ark

[magic rose]

Yes!

[toxic knot]

That's why you have two balls. M1+M2 = B1+B2

quik mafs

[calm hazel]

Hey bro I think one off those face tattoos might be leaking lead into ur brain

[velvet glade]

It's just megascan assets that are impossible to navigate 🤔 I don't see the appeal

[celest raft]

dawg im saying that people who NEED AIM ASSIST CANT AIM

I dont need aim assist, and if im playing against someone else who has it, chances are they can't to begin with

[austere zodiac]

No, power behind paywall and a small community of raiders are keeping the game alive, because Destiny doesn’t have any real competition

[celest raft]

on top of that just having your bullets magnetize to the other person is just boring

[terse epoch]

Basketball

[ember crater]

Even GTA V has aim assist free and aim assist lobbies, get with the times...from 10 years ago

[prime ravine]

Its called aim assist bro, of course they can aim, they are just assisted duh 💀 ( i havent paid attention to this arguement)

[near nexus]

im pooing on any controller player with no aim assist

[magic rose]

It did?

[prime ravine]

SHAQ??

[celest raft]

then they should play better

R6 players don't use this excuse lmao and that doesn't have console AA

[strange quartz]

There should be zero aim assist across the board. Why is this even a debate? You need aim assist on anything just put the games away. Its not for you

[magic rose]

why is this so funny

[velvet glade]

Give aim assist to PC players and remove it for consoles 🗣️ they'll learn to aim faster

[celest canopy]

People forget that their golden child sold out to Sony after the concord collapse. Good luck on the hands of Sony who don’t have 1 good live service game title yet.

[craggy crypt]

we'll see how the game holds after few months before u compare it to 10 successful years game

[ember crater]

yep, id play on aim assist free lobbies by myself and then join the aim asssist ones with my friends on controller. It was really that simple

[toxic knot]

Don't give aim assist to console players, give anti-aim to PC players so we can watch Shroud suffer

[rancid pebble]

helldivers?

[austere zodiac]

hElLDiVerS 🫠

[sly sleet]

I can aim well on M&K but have you ever tried getting headshots in a game with a low time to kill on a controller with no aim assist

[mental mango]

what

[celest raft]

okay this is funny

[fringe plover]

I trust Sony leadership 10x more than the dipshits running Bungie

[magic rose]

I never knew this 😭 I didn’t think GTA had aim assist with how bad my aim was

[mild seal]

https://x.com/halo2mappack/status/1923119692987691066?s=46&t=cgdoz_4Yuvo1Xoo6A-CstQ

[prime ravine]

Embark sold out to Sony? Damn, things are really bad for them huh

[celest raft]

right after Concord is diabolical

[blissful marsh]

release morbius again!

[celest canopy]

Did they revive that game? Haven’t played in a year

[craggy crypt]

they're all corpo, trust no one

[sly sleet]

Yes

[strange quartz]

Finally an actual joke 😂

[ember crater]

Ooof sorry to break it to you like this

[mental mango]

i am sory but things are working better

[mellow fjord]

helldivers 2 did well for a bit

[celest canopy]

Is this your sole purpose?

[austere zodiac]

I wouldn’t call Destiny a success. Players have hated on the game the whole time they played. Bungie sucks and there’s no getting away from that.

[velvet glade]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/moba/just-months-after-reportedly-cancelling-two-live-service-games-in-development-sony-announces-a-new-playstation-studio-with-a-live-service-game-in-development/

[magic rose]

Breaking my heart 🥹

[ember crater]

Only gamers can make an optional matchmaking switch the biggest fuckin deal in the planet

[quartz violet]

You dont need a few months to know Bungie is going to somehow ruin the game with poor choices. You have a 10 year legacy with their old title that lays it out clearly 😭

[calm hazel]

Slight AA on controllers are fine, but it can’t be at a point where if u just look in a general direction it locks on.
Controller needs it due to only being able to aim with fingers.
The avg MnK player would shit on them anyway in a fight and often have other advantages like easier looting in games.

[kindred vigil]

so what we chatting about rn

[nocturne gate]

most people dont play a game they hate, a vocal minority aint the community

[austere zodiac]

500 employees cut?

[celest raft]

"NOOOO IF YOU REMOVE AIM ASSIST WE MAY ACTUALLY HAVE TO USE THE RIGHT ANALOG STICK IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR EYES AND BRAIN NOOOOOOO

[celest canopy]

It’s not obvious?

[rancid pebble]

it has 100k players on pc* for a coop shooter so i think it might be a u thing (i actually havent played for a while either xd)

[viscid plinth]

Stolen Art? Lmao

[prime ravine]

you mean the entire industry?

[nocturne gate]

https://tenor.com/view/marathon-bungie-dac-runner-gif-6011190738981059482

[kindred vigil]

Dude I'm. On the marathon server, do u think I read or use critical thinking

[celest raft]

when buying is owning only then will piracy be stealing

[toxic knot]

Playing games is for nerds, complaining about game they've never played s is what true gamers are about.

[austere zodiac]

The game is good, the developer is wretched

[celest canopy]

Ok fairs, but that’s still just 1 game

[mellow fjord]

just hating on marathon

[craggy crypt]

he's talking about Arc vs Destiny 2

[ember crater]

Im bad too it's okay

[celest canopy]

Critical thinking is crazy 😂💀

[blissful marsh]

game hasnt been good since wq

[viscid plinth]

Stolen Art?

[celest raft]

standing on ten toes lmao

[toxic knot]

Corporate art theft is just in-universe RP, v.immersive

[magic rose]

bro come on

[celest raft]

this is the least of it

[magic rose]

I will accept it 😂 I know I can’t play good with or without aim assist on any game unless I play it 24/7

[austere zodiac]

Fair.

[magic rose]

Lmfaoooooo

[toxic knot]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-snake-big-boss-gif-12248663

[prime ravine]

mad cap

[mellow fjord]

you will be remembered brother

[austere zodiac]

https://x.com/4nt1r34l/status/1923067988871147605?s=46&t=N4ULD7OFD0G-NNFIY7tkYA

[celest raft]

HOOLD THE LIIINEEEE

[blissful marsh]

90% player dropoff since final shape launch

[ember crater]

I just dont want to get so outpaced that I feel left behind by shooters yknow

[dire bison]

✊

[sly sleet]

tbf. Primarily pc player
I tried playing battlefield 1 without much in the way of aim assist on controller and i could not hit shit without overcorrecting and aiming past them

[toxic knot]

That being said, the game looks great with stolen assets

[celest canopy]

Another fallen soldier to the marathon chat bots. 🫡

[craggy crypt]

classic "i stopped playing 5 years ago, and here is my opinion on the current game"

[prime ravine]

rip to the guardians the Witness got but the rest of us are built different

[blissful marsh]

i did salvations edge like last week lol

[magic rose]

It’s understandable, I can’t say much since idk? I’m like the person who says “ofc I’m shit, I don’t play this game enough to understand wtf I’m doing”

[celest raft]

they could still just make it optional crossplay anyways

[austere zodiac]

You don’t even know when witch queen came out….?

[magic rose]

literally 8 years ago, y’all

[celest raft]

instead of putting aim assist players against mouse and keyboard which would be a slaughterhouse lmfao

[candid hamlet]

Bungie stealing artwork again??? Is this real or click bait article bs cause it seems crazy

[celest canopy]

True the stolen game is good

[viscid plinth]

Yeah that's what I'm seeing too.

[karmic pumice]

real, sadly

[prime ravine]

real, disc is ragebaiting

[nocturne gate]

real sadly

[candid hamlet]

Ohhhh my fucking God bro

[karmic pumice]

Jinx!

[ember crater]

I remember Red Dead Redemption (1) had such intense aim assist all you needed to know was the exact right amount to flick the analog stick to get a guaranteed headshot

[craggy crypt]

i picked random number, don't want to fact-check the date 💀

[lusty cairn]

its called fair use

[candid hamlet]

Million dollar company can't make their own shit

[austere zodiac]

Real

[viscid plinth]

Shame

[blissful marsh]

if any of you preordered edge of fate, your opinion is automatically bad for me

[austere zodiac]

So you don’t know….

[mellow fjord]

I will continue you journey if you get kicked

[bold dust]

"Hid loss"?

[celest canopy]

Alright just come clean Bungie, what else did y’all steal? 💀

[prime ravine]

So if Destiny 2 is dead, then Finals is uberdead right?

[celest raft]

is that some Destiny 2 stuff

[magic rose]

Bro, it just got worse. Even whole textures were stolen, y’all

[toxic knot]

Tbf, that artist is getting a massive amount of exposure; the fair pay rate of most game development studios

[blissful marsh]

its the new expansion with literally nothing in it

[mellow fjord]

the real shame is people are still defending this mid ahh game

[mental mango]

bro you want rage i have that game play backup waiting

[austere zodiac]

I have never touched the finals

[viscid plinth]

Stop. Full stop.

[celest raft]

TL;DR Loss is a meme thats been simplified to that format with how ubiquitous it is, and the original artist hid it in one of the pieces they made, Bungie added it to the playtest

[toxic knot]

I speak nothing but truths and fire

[craggy crypt]

1 year or 10 years, it's still valid what i said

[prime ravine]

I havent yet so my opinion is factual

[austere zodiac]

They have not received a dime for their work.

[viscid plinth]

Gfto if you're in here w/that "exposure is payment" bs

[celest raft]

it was a joke im almost certain

[toxic knot]

Funny enough, neither have the people on payroll /joke

[bold dust]

OH I remember lol

[celest canopy]

Small player base = dead game?

[misty flicker]

very fun game

[magic rose]

It just got so much worse.

This is a wall texture from within the game. Even N2 (antireal) name wasn’t fully wiped from the asset, but you can tell they tried.

This is so fucking sad. I am so sad.

[prime ravine]

Destiny 2 30k = dead
Finals 11k = alive

the AI has rotten your brains

[strange quartz]

Met some unarmed scuba bois on the last night of the playtest in Arc. They launched fireworks from the departure building lol we met up and hung out at the launch towers until the nukes hit. This type of stuff could never happen in Marathon its one of the many reasons Arc is just better lol

[bold dust]

What are our bets on when they're going to comment on this, if at all?

[toxic knot]

Fr though, glad that artist is getting recognized for their designs I would really want on my phone

[sour maple]

As a graphic designer the artwork was why I was mainly interested in this game. Then I played the alpha and didn’t really enjoy it. Now I have p much no reason at all to be into this game lmao

[prime ravine]

Division 2 looks so good ❤️‍🔥

[austere zodiac]

I said Destiny was dying, like it always does months after a new release. They drop content and people are gone within a month.

[craggy crypt]

Cool 👍

[celest canopy]

One is 100 devs the other is a 4 billion dollar sell out thief

[blissful marsh]

destiny 2 master salvations edge lfg = dead

[pearl prism]

this game was already cooked but now its really over 🤣

[inland jasper]

Def commenting on it

[hollow belfry]

four times

[celest raft]

I just ran to the center of Dam while mic spamming "What a Wonderful World" the whole time and shooting into the sky as the playtest ended lmfao

[cold stump]

same nobody should buy this game if they dont immediately clean everything thats not theirs

[toxic knot]

Lets face it, outside of Cyberpunk genres the "AI reference point" artsyle just doesn't click with people yet. Once it becomes more common it'll start to explode.

[austere zodiac]

This is amazing - game is so good, I’m having withdrawals

[nocturne gate]

i give it a 60% they mention it next thursday

[calm hazel]

And Marathon won’t give you proximity chat in their “social” extraction game to experience this

[celest canopy]

Embark has less total employees than Bungie has laid off in the last 6 months.

[misty estuary]

has anyone official said anything?

[prime ravine]

Skill issue

[nocturne gate]

no

[craggy crypt]

100% tmrw

[strange quartz]

Waaay cooler then marathon, but I understand you not knowing because it looks like you didn't play marathon based of your roles lol

[celest canopy]

Tell that to the laid off devs

[celest raft]

I sure hope this game also has no plaigirism in it!

[austere zodiac]

No one is saying the finals is alive 💀 Stop strawmanning and accept that ARC is better than Marathon. Join us.

[thorn sinew]

Hey off topic here but how do people get the profile boarder?

[strange quartz]

Right? Makes no sense lol 😂

[kindred vigil]

Time travel to April and do the quest

[austere zodiac]

Bungie slaves

[thorn sinew]

Oof

[stable lark]

who said it's supposed to be a "social extraction game"

[rancid pebble]

experiance it not being used 99% of the time unless its some squeaker shivering in a corner begging for his life ?

[pearl prism]

I said this a week or two ago and got crucified now the whole discord turned on the game 🤣

[celest raft]

they're generating hype

[austere zodiac]

Got you

[craggy crypt]

i played Arc so i know it's mehh, it's just my opinion after all

[stable lark]

It's a competitive PVP extraction game.

[prime ravine]

Join what? game is more fake than the Day Before 💀

[celest canopy]

I’ll say it. It’s alive. Just smaller player base.

[mellow fjord]

at this point even if they give the designer money or whatever, that will not change the fact that they stole art plus it's not just a crazy game to be hyped about so why even spend money on a game that was built on stolen art?

[celest raft]

you aren't a good ragebaiter why are you still trying

[calm hazel]

Um just some dude who’s the GAME DIRECTOR

[thorny hare]

Agree with the guy you tagged I love this art style so much it’s just a shame only literal dog shit games are attached to it

[pearl prism]

beta blew marathon out of the water in terms of playercount and views 😆

[celest canopy]

I see what u did there

[magic rose]

Dude

It KEEPS GETTING WORSE

THE ENTIRE DESIGN LANGUAGE OF THE GAME WAS RIPPED OFF

[prime ravine]

Still think that?

[celest raft]

jesus

[austere zodiac]

Oh, so you’re actually just delusional and rage baiting, as a die-hard Bungie supporter 😂

[blissful marsh]

not a big deal

[craggy crypt]

keep posting more

[terse epoch]

Bungo, please add basketballs to marathon

[celest raft]

yes.

[mellow fjord]

and we're forgeting consel players too

[pearl prism]

had 20 years to work on it and couldnt generate a single original thought 💀

[sly sleet]

I mean I don’t think this is exclusively this artist’s style

[celest raft]

You might be onto soemthing.

[calm hazel]

Or the hundreds of people talking and teaming up to fight the bigger robots?

[rancid pebble]

how the fuck is the color of a screnshot this washed out ?

[thorny hare]

God the art looks so fucking cool

[toxic knot]

Cyberpunk stuff always ends up being 3rd banana in the grand scheme of things; honestly I'm schocked people like Apex, because solely futuristic shit just dies and that makes me very sad.

[strange quartz]

It sooo bad 😭 i can't find the drive to play any other game 😓

[celest raft]

I think its an actual picture of the message lol

[midnight vigil]

oops lol

[magic rose]

This is all from N2 portfolio

[sly sleet]

I think it is a genre. as I’ve seen it before. doesn’t make the Literal Lifted Assets any better

[prime ravine]

as washed as Embark to match 🙏

[sly sleet]

yes. but I think I’ve seen similar things from various artists before

[mental mango]

Don’t mess with me tonight

[celest canopy]

People forget smaller player base can be a good thing. I always recognize other players or their clubs, it creates a cool community vibe

[blissful marsh]

dude it happens all the time, not a big deal

[rancid pebble]

i barely experianced that even fucking shroud couldnt get any team to coop with him at the end to kill the queen everyone wanted to kill them lol

[mellow fjord]

...wha?

[lilac glade]

itmakesmesickitmakesmesickitmakesmesickitmakesmesick

[vapid mirage]

People should just call it inspired, unless they copied everything word for word

[celest raft]

It doesn't, right? :((

[kindred vigil]

This genuinely hurting my soul

[magic rose]

Same. I am a bit appalled by this.

[sly sleet]

I’m. Saying I think it is a genre. I have seen it elsewhere. I don’t think the design language is straight up entirely stolen

[vapid mirage]

Netflix did it in love death and robot and some other YouTuber did it with another short animation

[austere zodiac]

Marathon player had to take a picture of the screen with their android

[celest raft]

They literally did copy it word for word, not even exaggeration

[toxic knot]

jfc the loss

[sly sleet]

I know there are stolen assets. That is not good. I just don’t think they lifted literally the entire idea for the style

[celest raft]

every number and letter the exact same, not even trying

[lusty cairn]

they're probably just placeholders assets for the alpha

[mellow fjord]

I like deadlock communtiy tbh they're chill

[kindred vigil]

BAR FOR BAR, WORD FOR WORD, FLOW FOR FLOW

[mental mango]

I had enough rage bait for this evening

[magic rose]

I know. This is insane.

[blissful marsh]

all eleven guys, yeah

[sly sleet]

That is the image I just replied to. I know. It is stolen.

[midnight vigil]

Make this the server Banner <@&1306392707979018371>ods

[forest laurel]

Shouldn’t have hired a game director from outside the studio, wtf were you thinking

[celest raft]

get out of the kitchen if you'd like to not be burned

[calm hazel]

If this is the art that they just 100% stole from the artist I wonder how much “inspiration” the art team has stolen but just slightly changed

[craggy crypt]

Marathon Peak: 172,361 vs. Arc Raiders Peak: 109,439

[toxic knot]

There are also the artist's tags in the textures as well, kinda like the photostock Mass Effect 3 ending

[grim epoch]

This situation is awful

[austere zodiac]

You saw the rest too?

[vapid mirage]

That's pretty incriminating and super lazy on bungies part

[hollow belfry]

pete keep the ppl whom steal art and for a game that looked like a kid splash random colors in it

[safe lintel]

Google Doceky

[magic rose]

Maybe im just totally stupid for having faith in a company to deliver a cool and new IP I could enjoy, but I really was truly excited for nu-Marathon.

Now I’m just pissed.

[celest canopy]

This looks…. Ass

[celest raft]

I still love how none of the devs or mods have said A THING, NOTHING

[mellow fjord]

there was 20k players in the game 2 days ago lil bro

[celest raft]

literally what are the mods here even for??????? What is their purpose?

[toxic knot]

My guess is that some zoomer artist designed by vibes (AI generated designs) and that bot striaght lifted it from a website that has a EULA to train AI with user posted content.

[austere zodiac]

No one will play marathon when it release besides the 300 of you in this server that support piracy 😘

[cold stump]

mods are probably just finding out too

[forest laurel]

Let’s replace the head director with someone that doesn’t know the game engine 🤡

[sly sleet]

but to be fair for the style. all art is derivative. the lifted assets are awful and should be removed but it’s not like the style is a big issue

[pearl prism]

Bungies response: uhh yea we stole all of their artwork sorry guys!

[winged sable]

The outside lighting and assets aren’t done yet but I still think the game still looks way too corporate

[vapid mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/marathon-cat-marathon-bungie-bungie-marathon-new-marathon-gif-12469095744936271098

[mellow fjord]

they can't stop us from hating screw you devs and mods

[vapid mirage]

They have a cat tho

[celest canopy]

Holy the defense

[celest raft]

good thing they have that q&a stream tomorrow! Im sure that'll go

PEACHY

[valid stone]

The stream tomorrow is gonna go so well

[prime ravine]

Not the Starfield extraction shooter fan saying this ☠️

[rancid pebble]

its not corporate its esports ready ™️

[austere zodiac]

Come on…..

[toxic knot]

They open the stream with the artist that stole the assets on a cross

[celest raft]

inb4 delayed a second time

[calm hazel]

Wonder if comments will be off on the stream for some reason

[soft star]

Bungie are morally bankrupt and deserve their eventual downfall

[sly sleet]

yeah. the only other way would be if they stole the assets because it matched their vision of the style

[valid stone]

You mean third time!

[celest raft]

quite possibly my favorite message ever sent in here

"I JUST WANTED MY CHEEEEEEESE"

[sly sleet]

do you. Know the words I have been saying? Yes. They stole things. Yes. That is very bad.

[blissful marsh]

opening the stream with pirate stoner nailed to a table

[celest canopy]

“The LiGhtIng isNt doNe yet”

[winged sable]

Saying anything now isn’t a good idea until they figure who stole the art and figure out a plan of action. A knee jerk reaction prob isn’t a good idea for any company in this situation. No doubt they’re gonna respond to it just might take them a day or two

[calm hazel]

Delaying everything but the game smh

[ebon moss]

DESMOND

[midnight vigil]

ive been playing the classic marathons and im in love so this is gonna hurt lmao

[toxic knot]

Daily occurances at priate themed bars

[bold dust]

Okay, hear me out:
Left side in-game, right side one of the Artists posters

[austere zodiac]

You said you didn’t think they lifted it?

[halcyon dirge]

this one's the funniest to me, his name is literally on it

[sly sleet]

that’s not what I said

[forest laurel]

The valorant guy couldn’t save Sonys 3 billion dollar purchase. Tough

[celest raft]

I mean in general the mods or devs haven't said a thing in here in at least a week, nothing, zero

[sly sleet]

They definitely lifted assets.

[celest raft]

absolute radio silence, great indicator of listening to feedback fr

[winged sable]

Not done yet but the base art style just doesn’t look too great in general so yeah it’ll look better at launch but they’re gonna be polishing something that already isn’t good into something slightly less bad lol

[valid stone]

They are actually gonna have to pay big time to get this to release as is, but now who is going to want to buy something that is just a bunch of lifted assets?

[blissful marsh]

dont worry guys, everything will be fixed in four months

[craggy crypt]

45° stripes are not a new thing

[celest raft]

I've said it like 5 times now but I'll say it once more

Bungie is gonna have a damn reckoning on their hands if Arc drops first

[bold dust]

tbf it hasn't been that long yet and this is a pretty big deal imo. So it's going to take a day or two to talk to some execs and lead people probably.

[pearl prism]

they had to of paid him and he acting like they didnt cause no way they just stole everything word for word 😭

[toxic knot]

Legitimately, I think some shitty designer that lied on their application had AI generate these designs. However, the AI copy+pasted it from a database it had access to. This is why you don't post art to websites that have EULAs that allow companies to use your content to train their systems.

[forest laurel]

Didn’t Sony buy Firewalk studios?

[soft star]

Ahem. Fuck bungie 🙏

[lusty cairn]

📢 Reminder: All Arc lovers here are people who didn't get a Marathon code! Marathon already won. There are more people online here than there are members in Arc discord.

[mellow fjord]

and a mid game?

[celest canopy]

100% just funny that that’s the first reaction I get

[normal sluice]

classic bi-monthly Bungie art steal, cinema

[prime ravine]

Game so good the server had to shut down.

[bold dust]

No, not really. But A LOT of other stuff from that artist has been ripped too so...

[austere zodiac]

If you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, more power to you, but I’m not convinced anyone at Bungie has genuine originality or creative talent anymore. It’s been that way for a while now

[soft star]

Youre a clown

[celest raft]

its almost like they didn't want people to see the playtest (with the stolen art)

[strange quartz]

This is pure laziness on devs for stealing art. Like they have an entire art design department... they should all be replaced at this point tbh

[echo ore]

How about the one with Loss in it?

[craggy crypt]

and that's valid

[winged sable]

Bi-weekly bungie catastrophic blunder

[austere zodiac]

Closed alpha access. ARC is infinitely better.

[late shard]

Ongo Gablogian is more of an artist than Bungie

[prime ravine]

also AI defenders talking about originality is wild

[pearl prism]

streamers played marathon like it was a 6 hour sponsor, dudes were playing arc all weekend 💀

[toxic knot]

I'm like 60/40 on it being AI generated theft vs. plain ole theft

[mellow fjord]

go hop on a bungie's dev pp bro

[polar idol]

That's a good one

[echo ore]

Me being the only HLB rep here (it got good guys)

[austere zodiac]

Fake marathon fan found in the ARC raiders discord 😂

[celest raft]

prefiring a company plagiarizing you is so tough

[winged sable]

PLEASE say this is real lmao

[strange quartz]

I had access to marathon and I stopped playing it to play arc raiders so that's just not true lol

Keep doing tricks on the bungo stick tho

[celest raft]

someone else who was in the playtest literally said they saw it

[safe kernel]

Must be ironic for u

[late shard]

Smh my head can't even outsource human theft

[celest canopy]

Rename to Grand theft Art 6. Probably get more sales.

[magic rose]

it is just whole textures y’all, not even just fonts.

[fresh tusk]

Oh hello tempis

[proven hazel]

we in shambles, i cant do this anymore, im done. I aint doing this no more, peace yo

[late shard]

GTA 6 has an art theft mission, guaranteee

[celest raft]

welp

time to smoke weed and play Dark and Darker until a better game comes out

[polar idol]

It's crazy that they could have just paid antireal money

[midnight vigil]

MY DIGITAL CATS

[celest canopy]

Yea you roleplay as a Bungie dev

[austere zodiac]

I was in here first - I heard of ARC raiders in this discord after playing alpha

[fresh tusk]

https://fxtwitter.com/TalonRahl_exe/status/1923098908877783289

[polar idol]

But that'll never happen.. esp w bungie

[calm hazel]

Weird move from the Marathon team to hire the art thief from the Destiny 2 team

[midnight birch]

lol

[mellow fjord]

where you play as a bungie dev

[prime ravine]

hired? they never fired them

[celest raft]

how will Pete afford another car though?

[supple hound]

itll be interesting to see how / if bungie responds

[austere zodiac]

LMFAO

[late shard]

Dungie

[magic rose]

Yeah i posted this one earlier. Literally couldn’t even scrub ANTIREAL name out properly.

I am just floored at this, man.

[polar idol]

Yooo

[toxic knot]

Ai pulls from pools of images, and references art to cobble it together with other refrences to make something "new". If the AI is shitty, or has a bad generation the refrence images will be very obviously copy pasted. Think about Ai generated faces, and some of the features are pretty obviously not there. Now image it just posted someone's whole face instead of generating something "new".

[celest raft]

think of poor Pete's garage...

[celest canopy]

Bungie more like dookie

[blissful marsh]

marathon art team goated, using the extraction shooter mechanics to their advantage

[candid hamlet]

That's a different game

[mental mango]

Trash game because they don’t service x box players

[ancient fern]

Innaccurate to say all when I've had the chance to put a similar amount of time into both

[austere zodiac]

HOLLLYYYYYYY

[calm hazel]

Bro got demoted to the Marathon team 😭

[celest raft]

are you only here to spout bs or

[late shard]

Yeah at this point idc I hope this game Concords, art thieves don't deserve to be celebrated

[jovial pasture]

im cryin bro what do you mean not the same

[forest laurel]

Imagine making an extraction shooter without proximity chat?

[prime ravine]

that is literally what most likely happened

[midnight vigil]

doubt it, the only way this ends good is if they drag people who submitted the art design as their own and Pete on the stream and publically fire both, live

[celest raft]

Joseph come on out we know thats your alt

[late shard]

Gerald Robotnik their asses

[blissful marsh]

im ziegling it im zeigling it

[toxic knot]

I'm spitballing ideas, because I cant believe we're still doing this since Mass Effect 3's debacle

[floral zealot]

oh god

[cold stump]

this isnt AI its straight scanning and using it as decals

[austere zodiac]

Extracting Art and shooting the artist huh? 😂

[mild vault]

Imagine making an extraction shooter with original art

[bold dust]

If you shorten this by one it is kind of the exact same thing...

[blissful marsh]

bro the art is looted, not stolen

[magic rose]

The thing that REALLY pulled me jn originally was how cool all of the art and design direction was, i truly thought it was just an absolutely inspired and original aesthetic, at least, hadn’t been done in the mainstream before.

[dreamy pilot]

they just inverted or flipped a whole bunch of designs

[forest laurel]

“Original” the artist still took ideas from the OG marathon concept. This whole thing is dumb

[blissful marsh]

such as?

[pearl prism]

patterns like this are very common but stealing posters and layouts 1:1 is embarrassing

[mellow fjord]

remember when the artstyle was the selling point of the first reveal of the game and how they yapped about it in the first vod? and that blonde girl, yeah that shit makes me feel sick rn

[strange quartz]

Its never really your art, just your turn with it 😓

[lusty cairn]

how do you copyright lines and boxes?

[calm hazel]

Bro without a closer image it’s impossible to tell. It’s just slanted lines at this distance, need to see anything else in the image

[mild vault]

OG marathon looks nothing like this

[simple moss]

Concord

[dreamy pilot]

Concord Deux

[late shard]

ART Raiders

[celest canopy]

CONCORD 2

[signal parrot]

Aren't Bungie being sued by somebody for stealing their admittedly generic ass sci fi fic they couldn't properly publish except on wordpress

[toxic knot]

See, now this is a solid argument I forgot about 😂

[digital siren]

Bungie allow me to be optimistic about anything they make (Impossible Challenge)

[cold stump]

when the lines and boxes are extremely particular to the point of those lines and boxes not being seen before

[fresh tusk]

Can we stop with the Concord bullshit please?

[blissful marsh]

concord 0.5, at least concord didn't have to steal art

[prime ravine]

The only thing OG Marathon and Antireal share is the word "Aleph" and that was the artist name of a client supposedly

[craggy crypt]

strap lines are way common than u think, rest is stolen 100%

[dreamy pilot]

it stole a shit ton of gameplay from Destiny tho

[celest raft]

fr, its more like Apex with more steps

[celest canopy]

ART RAIDERS IS CRAZY😭💀

[celest raft]

and stolen assets too

[final belfry]

when her (faded out) account name is literally in the game

[simple moss]

Concord was 100% original at least

[celest raft]

thats so foul oh my god

[blissful marsh]

"ex bungie employees" boutta mean nothing real soon except for maybe the people making your next mcdonalds burger

[proper marten]

is there any way to play marathon right now?

[celest canopy]

At least concord didn’t steal

[fresh tusk]

And it was mid???

[calm hazel]

Might have been an improvement tbh, those characters were hideous

[winged sable]

Unfortunately this is in fact a bar

[late shard]

I mean there's literal text from the art that Bungie put into the game too, like, wholeass sentences. And they also tried to cover some of it up. Badly.

[pearl prism]

you heard it here first

[dreamy pilot]

Same people that worked on Destiny 2 year 1 sandbox that everyone hated! They became firewalk

[vagrant elbow]

That is one point that hasn’t been looked at, but it along with the other views is circling the drain. Again the wait and see approach is viable for this situation.

[celest raft]

the timeline where I accidentally didn't leave my shoes tied one day or something

[prime ravine]

Yup, 100% stolen, I'm just correcting the other user

[dreamy pilot]

excuse me buddy it's ART Raiders

[magic rose]

There needs to be an addressing of this, like, IMMEDIATELY

[pearl prism]

Original Art Raiders > Mstolenarthon

[normal sluice]

tomorrow's stream is gonna be fun as fuck

[late shard]

Splitgate 2 looks cool though, it's got Forge now 🙂

[lilac glade]

i dont know what to say im so fucking angry and in shock

[strange quartz]

Marathon Raiders

[forest laurel]

The game stinks not matter how you shake it

[dreamy pilot]

Bungo'd

[celest raft]

inb4 live chat is closed

[prime ravine]

no offense, but nothing is gonna happen immediately bc internet users want it to

[craggy crypt]

i'm emailing them right now, don't worry about it. FULL CAPS

[winged sable]

https://youtu.be/l6QdnV-chZk?si=N7X9t54uDl0_VISE

[late shard]

I'm sending Bungie a polite but strongly worded letter

[calm hazel]

MyArtIsGone

[magic rose]

I don’t care about no legal whoha. Bungie needs to truly say something about this.

[lilac glade]

I mean im not suprised at the same time, they have done this before

[mental mango]

for those that about other games go they discord servers

[austere zodiac]

This is so good

[mental mango]

this is marathon server

[prime ravine]

They cant, ARC discord is more dead than the game

[pearl prism]

Pretty big deal for a studio as big as bungie the longer they wait the guiltier they look 💀

[dreamy pilot]

They had a whole fucking IP to work with that was their own! Why

[midnight vigil]

stroke :(

[celest raft]

its almost like people want this game to succeed or else they wouldn't be here pointing out its flaws

[gray depot]

this is so insanely not true lol

[strange quartz]

No this is ART RAIDERS

[austere zodiac]

This is ARC Server

[blissful marsh]

destiny players after every single update

[celest raft]

why would people want less good games to play thats such a dumb take

[craggy crypt]

they're going to pay her off like nothing happened (doubt they'll hire her) lol

[normal sluice]

PR team is working on some damage control, probably a free medium pizza and a 20oz pepsi for the artist.

[lilac glade]

JUST HIRE HER IF HER ART IS THAT INFLUENTAL GIVE HER A FUCKING JOB BUNGIE SHES CARRYING YOUR GAME FOR FREE

[prime ravine]

Bro the ARC fans trying to play holy for artist while they support an AI loving company is wild 💀

[late shard]

Can't spell Marathon without ART (raiders)

[fresh raptor]

We're cooked, folks. Seared and basted.

[austere zodiac]

Pretty sure this guy works for IGN feel free to block him now

[pliant depot]

i unfortunately see that happening. knowing Bungie is Sony property now

[celest raft]

they compensated the VAs still.

[celest canopy]

Few more hours this will be #1 post in Reddit

[mental mango]

this is not arc raiders server

[late shard]

Thank you thank you I'm here all week ❤️

[prime ravine]

Embark: 0 voice actors, 0 talent, 7 AI voice overs

[ivory walrus]

@dull estuary Jesus Chirst this is blatant as hell.

[celest raft]

meanwhile Bungie is bleeding employees like an open air chest sucking wound lol

[wispy crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/marathon-bungie-dac-runner-gif-6011190738981059482

[midnight vigil]

@dull estuary lol

[simple moss]

☠️

[pliant depot]

bleeding? bruh they fire them lmao

[forest laurel]

100% fun

[strange quartz]

Its ART RAIDERS

[celest raft]

I'd leave too then.

[rancid pebble]

we would have been living a utopia if this happened

[calm hazel]

Like this is only the tip of the iceberg and art we 100% know is stolen.
How many other assets have just taken “inspiration” from her work and just slightly been changed.

[celest canopy]

💀

[fresh raptor]

Can't wait to see what Team LFG comes up with

[prime ravine]

my congrats on your lobotomy 🙏

[celest raft]

same thing really

[austere zodiac]

ARC Raiders vs ART Raiders?

[cunning halo]

Bungie out here stealing art. Not a good look if true.

[mental mango]

i am starting to get pissed off

[pliant depot]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-community-room-fire-pizza-gif-5612111

[gray depot]

its preety undeniable

[prime ravine]

woah there hulk, relax

[celest raft]

bros gonna have to intervene 💀

[celest canopy]

No wonder all we got was devs playing their own game for the promotion

[pliant depot]

ah no gif, boring

[prime ravine]

Bro's gonna ART raid us next

[toxic knot]

Well, if Maraton is out then I don't think there is a solid FPS on the market

[kindred vigil]

Save us

[ancient fern]

Yeah but the court isn't taking 3rd party sources as valid evidence. Bungie basically presented 13 hours of community curated content on the game's lore from the red war and stuff because that stuff apparently isn't even available to them anymore

[cunning halo]

Raiders of the Lost Art.

[celest raft]

no embed perms at all

[mellow fjord]

the asked for the voice actors consent and we're talking about a company that's still starting out and a company that's worth bilions and still stole art

[vague vale]

Jesus Christ what is bungies problem with stealing art this is crazy that it keeps happening

[austere zodiac]

Dr. Loophole was playtesting for Marathon

[celest canopy]

U gotta chill

[prime ravine]

the AI shilling continues

[forest laurel]

Bungie hasn’t done good PVP since the originals trials in D1.

[pliant depot]

lol, that sucks haha.

[mental mango]

no i am gonna boot next replay

[strange quartz]

It was wild to see all the streamers also actively leave the marathon test for arc raiders. Lmaooo

[gray depot]

*halo 3

[prime ravine]

Trials player, CONFIRMED lobotomy patient

[celest canopy]

Their leader Dr.loophole

[forest laurel]

You’re tripping. Reach was goated

[gray depot]

its fine

[dreamy pilot]

and Destiny content creators shilling for them

[austere zodiac]

Who cheated at chess

[toxic knot]

FPS dead genre, hacks2powerful

[cunning halo]

Only Marathon Bungie been doing is running to Pinterest

[calm hazel]

Damn must off been why he tried to steal the win away. He learned it from Bungie

[signal parrot]

They've been using assets without consent in some form or another in Destiny 2 for years, and always slip a line in a TWID after they get caught apologizing and claiming they've credited and/or compensated the artist in question

[pliant depot]

Halo 2, 3 and Reach was great

[strange quartz]

Real, REACH was the last good halo game

[late shard]

Bungie always has a third-person f2p competitor as a thorn on it's side, huh?

Destiny vs. Warframe
Marathon vs. ART Raiders

[bold dust]

hear me out...

[forest laurel]

Fine? The customization was by far the best and the had all the good maps?

[lilac glade]

I know there is a grey line between plagiarism and inspiration but its very very clear when its plagiarism or inspiration, purely on the people who try and hide it, bungie tried to wear its art style on its sleeve which was inspiration and hid the plagiarism

[signal parrot]

The fucking Ace of Spades nerf gun was lifted wholesale from a commission someone did

[pliant depot]

holy shit, lines....

[celest canopy]

No wonder Dr.Loophole loved this game 😂😂😭

[pallid shoal]

omg i drew blinds once

[craggy crypt]

😭 it's just stripes

[pearl prism]

im biggest marathon hater but you cant claim this as "stolen"

[mellow fjord]

it might be bad but idc stealing art is way worse, and as long as the voice actors agreed I don't see the problem

[stable ridge]

I just hope Bungie can resolve this peacefully.

[magic rose]

Very obviously tried to hide it since the names and logos and such we’re very blatantly tried to be obscured

[toxic knot]

"Okay.... now I hit Control+A, and control+I to inverse colors... Perfect." - Bungo devs on referencing B&W art assets

[modern solar]

Extraction shooter but it’s extraction of people’s labour

[bold dust]

I'm dying on the hill that they even just copied the stripes, cleaned it up a little and inverted the colors man lmao

[prime ravine]

So stealing art from thousands of artists is better?

[pearl prism]

stream chat going to burn them at the stake tomorrow

[midnight vigil]

nah we gotta skin someone for this one

[celest canopy]

He steels chess moves like Bungie steals art

[prime ravine]

like, thats what AI is made for, what are we saying

[gray depot]

customisation is great the maps are fun but reach struggles to compare to the excellence of halo 3, i personally will get bored of playing reach slayer within an hour but ive managed to just sit and sink 5+ hrs into 3 with friends without realising the time has flown

anyways lets talk about bungie stealing shit

[pliant depot]

nah, they'll just touch on it for 2 minutes then move on to some dumb shit

[bold dust]

inverted the colors

[ember mountain]

What’s going on with bungie

[hoary junco]

why can't they just make a good game

[alpine viper]

its the 4th time it happens, someone's head has to go on a pike this time

[prime ravine]

They'll most likely pay her and move on

[cunning halo]

Peacefully aka 💰 💰💰

[craggy crypt]

let it go bro 💀

[midnight vigil]

just another thursday

[late shard]

Too busy laying off their workers tbh

[gray depot]

the entire vibe and art direction of marathon is stolen by the looks of it

[low kernel]

This is why Lars was bragging about being able to run solo easily in that bearki interview, playing against Bungie staff is like having an empty map

[calm hazel]

U forgot to blur it slightly to try and hide the credit

[ember mountain]

You’re acting like they haven’t

[dreamy pilot]

Cars

[magic rose]

Over/Under the odds of stream chat being locked tomorrow lmao

[bold dust]

NEVERRRRRRRRRRRR

[pliant depot]

i'm still waiting for that lol

[strange quartz]

They're sell outs, that's why. No more soul left in bungo

[celest raft]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVER

[prime ravine]

twitch or YT?

[pearl prism]

even if they resolve the issue with the artist this stain is permanent 💀

[toxic knot]

And then set the slider to '0.01' so it's still visible

[ember mountain]

From what

[gusty raven]

100% locked and all concerns ignored

[bold dust]

Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[forest laurel]

You’re comparing story mode to PvP. Raw PvP I think reach takes the cake. Story with buddies? 3 by a mile

[gray depot]

an artist named antireal

[celest raft]

im sure that'll go great for them

[celest canopy]

Stop hating on Bungie so much dude

[austere zodiac]

Forge and Custom Games in 3 and Reach was some of the peakest gaming in all history

[pearl prism]

12month sub only chat

[bold dust]

This ARG scarred me for life.

[low kernel]

It's just an alpha guys!!!!

[gray depot]

no im talking about pvp on both

[ember mountain]

Ok let me look this up

[ancient ferry]

At first I only saw the arrows,,, “I mean I guess they could have both had the same idea”

Then I saw everything else lmfao. Ctrl C ctrl V

[strange quartz]

If you simply scroll up you'll see plenty of the art theft

[mellow fjord]

bro the voice actors knew what was gonna happen and they agreed to it, and now this designer if they never knew about marathon and that their art got stolen then that sucks way more so what embark did is way more justifiable than what bungie did

[cunning halo]

To be fair the artist said they have been struggling financially as far as art goes so money is probably a great solution. Money and a job is best case scenario

[true sky]

God this is so sad

[gusty raven]

like bungie is good with addressing concerns any faster than one month and a short blog post

[austere zodiac]

It’s only 2% of the game and it’s all stolen from YOU our loyal fans!

[gray depot]

https://x.com/4nt1r34l/status/1923067988871147605

[calm hazel]

Ur right I can’t wait for the full game so we can see all the stolen Art

[celest raft]

oh to be a participant in the Marathon arg...

so naive, so ignorant, so blissful.

[gray depot]

yupppp

[normal sluice]

this is such a funny image i cant stop laughing

[forest laurel]

We both agree Bungies peak PvP is long behind us

[celest raft]

best thing this game ever produced

[inland jasper]

Dw bestie we all been talking abt it

[final belfry]

we be aware yeah

[magic rose]

Links don’t embed anymore, but yes i screeenshotted and shared this earlier.

[high lark]

Is this the game that steals art?

[gray depot]

bungies peak is long gone yup, not the same company it once was

[celest canopy]

Dr Lupo would be proud

[celest raft]

Why yes, yes it is

[late shard]

holds Marathon teaser cinematic close

It's ok dear you're not the game, you will always be peak...

[alpine viper]

bro browsing on internet explorer

[midnight birch]

hop on cotw

[prime ravine]

No ARC is down that way, ask them about AI while youre at it

[inland jasper]

You are looking for the destiny 2 discord, sorry

[pliant depot]

mhmm 🐸

[celest raft]

LDR/SL director deserves better.

[cunning halo]

Need this one explained lol

[low kernel]

The unreleased 2 runners and 2 maps are also stolen

[ancient ferry]

I love how it’s literally like. The whole style. In entirety. If you like the style you should check out antireal’s website, it’s really cool

[stone plinth]

so uhhhh is the stream gonna be happening tomorrow still yall think with this art theft thing popping off?

[craggy crypt]

why they didn't pay him to record lines live? it's not like Nexon can't afford to finance Embark

[mental mango]

ninjas get handle on this thanks

[forest laurel]

Controller aim assist base code is still the same from Halo 2 multiplayer. Fun fact

[late shard]

Inb4 Embark hires him for Art Raiders cinematic

[ember mountain]

Who are you

[celest raft]

delayed again lmfao

[austere zodiac]

Link!

[surreal nova]

I really like the combat system, the mix of active and turn based combat. It also has a great story and good characters, as did south of midnight. Don’t get me wrong, I liked both games, but imo expedition 33 is better

[calm hazel]

Marathon Art director gotta be on fraud watch at this time.
He stole her entire flow

[toxic knot]

I think that's the german guy's symbol? The one with the red nose that has no games or something.

[gray depot]

awesome

[celest raft]

that would go so hard genuinely

[midnight birch]

anyone tryna hop on the finals

[bold dust]

https://antireal.info

[ember mountain]

Yeah, I just looked it up

[cunning halo]

Oh got you

[low kernel]

The stream being delayed until tomorrow suddenly seems really poorly timed lmao

[kindred vigil]

💔💔...........

[tough hazel]

[weak harbor]

The Austrian painter

[magic rose]

Yes! The art consult website is very slick and cool looking. I can very obviously see the theft for Sekiguichis site actually lmao

[prime ravine]

leave server and support artist bro, no one cares about anything else

[celest raft]

does anyone here play Dark and Darker because I just got it lmfao

[ember mountain]

Pretty crazy that bungie has done this three times now

[ancient ferry]

https://antireal.info/

[strange quartz]

Someone more informed then you, clearly lol

[gray depot]

the goat

[soft saddle]

this PlAyMA is gonna be interesting

[low kernel]

If the stream had been at the original time zegler could avoid all the plagiarism spam lol

[alpine viper]

you wont, dont fool yourself lol

[cunning halo]

Gotta have time to cut the check and let the PR team write up an apology

[inland jasper]

Where is news abt the stream delayed?

[forest laurel]

It’s a console company.

[ember mountain]

That is why I asked gloomy lmfao

[late shard]

PlayMA watch party anyone?

[narrow skiff]

antireal has been at this for well over 10 years same with billain

[supple hound]

to seemingly build the entire theme and visual style of a game, down to the color pallet, from a small artist's un-credited work, as a AAA studio; wild

like going through their "referenced" art, even just the colors alone are what set the stage for the corporations of Marathon

[gray depot]

yeah its cool

[balmy kettle]

I think the game is cooked

[celest raft]

hatewatch gang

[pliant depot]

Man, this is great and everything. i'm just going to play some Crab Champions or Tower Unite and chill out.

[strange quartz]

And that is why I told you, syrup!

[pearl prism]

one time is excusable, twice is wild, but THREE TIMES?!?!? 💀

[soft saddle]

back to playing the finals

[alpine viper]

4th time i think even

[celest raft]

wtf were the other times???

[low kernel]

Spamming the chat with art thieves

[balmy kettle]

I didn’t say fuck this game, i was actually really excited for it

[calm hazel]

Anyone want to be if the live stream chats gonna be disabled tomorrow?

[prime ravine]

• Fuck this game
• Is still in the server

[mellow fjord]

bro idc all I know that the voice actors knew that their voice would be used and this whole ai thing and they agreed to it, the voice actors didn't even complain as much as y'all are complaining for them right now 💀

[inland jasper]

6 I believe

[sage cedar]

im confused huh? The main artist is Joseph Cross isnt it?? They showcase him heavily and repost everything he posts

[celest raft]

let the people know

[prime ravine]

your message popped up when i pressed reply, my bad g

[ember mountain]

That is insane and very sad, but I don’t think it was a bunch of people who did this. I think it was one person who stole the art style and pitched it

[balmy kettle]

No worries no worries

[celest raft]

Joseph Cross follows N2 on Bluesky

[toxic knot]

Looks like that N2 artist also stole their designs from G4TV back in the early 2000s. What a chain of theft!

[ember mountain]

Like a good girl

[strange quartz]

Based lol

[magic rose]

okay guy come on

[lilac glade]

Yeah exactly

[prime ravine]

not the best place, chat is gonna be filled with pregnant men by tomorrow

[celest raft]

its G4, they deserve it.

[sage cedar]

who is N2? is that another artist?

[soft saddle]

Gulp

[mellow fjord]

@prime ravine you gonna reply back bro? or you can't keep arguing?

[kindred vigil]

❓

[narrow skiff]

n2 is antireal

[late shard]

The clone of N1

[celest raft]

the artist they stole from for Marathon

[pearl prism]

tbh i wouldnt doubt it, its not like they just took one idea they ripped everything 💀

[blissful marsh]

fitting profile background ngl

[bold dust]

what