🗣marathon-general-chat

[trim summit]

cilantro lmao

[tulip dagger]

art extraction shooter

[calm hazel]

MB, make sure you reach out to the VA’s and say you don’t consent to their consent.

[ember warren]

are you just eating straight cilantro?

[unreal wraith]

I love that the trolls are like "I hate marathon and also artists, anything good is bad!"

[radiant lagoon]

Lucky I don’t send more

[pastel hedge]

Idk I've played The Finals for a while now and there's much more misses than hits. Player model faces have always looked a bit wonky to me too, and it's worse in Arc somehow

[celest raft]

they extracted the assets dw

[prime ravine]

not happening for some graphics btw, like lets at least be ragebaiting like professionals here

[trim summit]

yeah?

[tall mulch]

Bungie should steal some skill instead 🤣🤣

[celest raft]

oh my god I thought that was a pacifier at first bruh

[echo knoll]

so like what now will a lawsuit take place or some action will be taken?

[ember warren]

people do that?

[scenic meteor]

pls mods give us embed perms

[proud glade]

OH.

[pastel hedge]

Sam Fisher when Phil Spencer buys Splinter Cell from Ubisoft

[trim summit]

yeah? maybe not americans lol

[bold dust]

🤔

[misty estuary]

she said she doesn't want to

[radiant lagoon]

It’s a heart sticker 👅

[celest raft]

please remain as you are you pure soul.

[ember warren]

ive never heard of that thats so weird, is it yummy?

[rancid pebble]

broke people who can't actually make a living off their work are asking for a living wage ? how fucking dare they

[young saddle]

Phil and Pete should go Car for Car who’d win?

[celest raft]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[echo knoll]

smart tbh, as sad as that is to say

[prime ravine]

She doesnt want to and she doesnt have the money for something that might end up paying less than legal costs

[ember crater]

There is no pure souls here

[radiant lagoon]

My pc crashing screen has better quality

[austere zodiac]

Hmm, interesting, I always play games with helmets on so I’ll have to look into it. I didn’t mind them in ARC during customization

[tall mulch]

Pete wants more cars🤫

[trim summit]

this is good enough bruv. our salads are different

[agile mason]

wdym

[ember warren]

you think goku in the chat?

[misty estuary]

she should be paid full stop at least

[edgy parcel]

yeah bcs the finals started out as a mode in arc. the fact that its even a game is a coincidence. also its much more colorful than arc so everything looks a bit more uncanny

[celest raft]

Goku would be here waiting for Arc's server to open back up

[trim summit]

lot of Americans don’t like cilantro lol

[vagrant elbow]

I figured that all of this may be address tomorrow. But for the moment let cooler heads prevailed and see this sorted out with none of the rage baiting and pitchforks

[ember crater]

What do you think there is?

[celest raft]

cilantro is fire idk why that is

[prime ravine]

Hired instead of who stole her shit imo, like she says she struggles with her work, she deserves a stable income at the least

[ember warren]

i think goku's got bigger fish to fr than arc raiders lol

[trim summit]

there are people that don’t like tomato’s fr

[tulip dagger]

-.-

[misty estuary]

facts

[celest raft]

nawwwwww

[agile mason]

hmm

[celest raft]

"UHHHHH MAKE IT YELLOW™️"

[young saddle]

I really don’t think BTS would appreciate art being stolen bungie please do the right thing and delay the game for all BTS fans every where and in this server right now typing 🙏🏾🙏🏾🛐

[pastel hedge]

Motorway pile-up

[tulip dagger]

they will have to rework everything, those graphics are everywhere

[mental mango]

/m what goko has to do with this sserver

[ember warren]

hes the best ever

[tall mulch]

This server is cooked bro

[unreal wraith]

Antireal has a boss track up that you can pay what you want for:

[celest raft]

the game is gonna look like an N64 game once they're gone

[sly fossil]

what time is the Play MA tmo

[young saddle]

Pete cut me off last year and I almost crashed

[pastel hedge]

What about a Dark Soul (2011) ?

[unreal wraith]

https://antireal.bandcamp.com/track/null-apophenia - toss Antireal 20 bucks, get a cool track

[austere zodiac]

“Scrap it, we’ll re release the alpha in 3 years when everyone forgets. Call the D3 devs we fired, they’re so back”

[radiant lagoon]

Ik everyone smells like sweat and fish fingers in here

[prime ravine]

Reworking it wont help the artist, the best they can do pay her or hire her

[edgy parcel]

man i joined yesterday and it was so calm. now its insanity

[tulip dagger]

oh of course. After paying her I mean

[gleaming bough]

it be like that sometimes

[noble topaz]

The self emote 😭

[ember warren]

theres something happening with marathon for once ofc its insanity

[celest raft]

"a captain goes down with his ship" ass statement

[celest canopy]

Playing marathon feels like ripping an empty cart 💀

[tall mulch]

This server is a good opportunity to ragebait

[edgy parcel]

paying her and then not even using it? kinda whack

[radiant lagoon]

Don’t pay those ahh artists

[celest raft]

hittiin on STRAIGHT technology

[young saddle]

Pete said he’d give her 1 car from the collection that isn’t anything over $200K
I think that’s worth

[radiant lagoon]

If anything send them to prison

[vagrant elbow]

What would be a better suggestion and or direction. If that’s the case, let it be sorted out. I am staying neutral in this and will wait to see what happens.

[rancid pebble]

I don't fully believe them because the female player character sounds like lea seydoux and I doubt they got her consent for it point is all companies are evil

[austere zodiac]

Making marathon was like stealing candy from babies

[pastel hedge]

you tell freaky ahh pea guy, you should sit at the next board meeting

[prime ravine]

convo already kinda dying down over on Bluesky from what I can see

[celest canopy]

Straight biometrics bruh

[echo knoll]

ahhh the good old days, instead of people begging for codes now we got people fighting for small artists
what an upgrade

[austere zodiac]

Then ask her?

[tulip dagger]

yeah I mean you can't just steal shit and pay the minimum once it's noticed. That's not how it works :D

[radiant lagoon]

My ship is made out of cardboard and has shiny red and yellow stripes on it and I love it

[tulip dagger]

they should pay her for what they used already, then either remove it or pay her more for being allowed to keep using it.

[edgy parcel]

yeah you pay more and then use it

[prime ravine]

It is how it works unfortunately, it shouldnt be, but it is

[celest raft]

lacing my brain with those metal trace chemtrails, shits nothing to me man

[dark yoke]

https://fixupx.com/TauCetiGG/status/1923108714254409854

[ember warren]

TRUTH NUKE

[blissful marsh]

watch as they give the artist an access code

[rancid pebble]

brother she's a famous actress they didn't pay her lol

[radiant lagoon]

9/10 ppl have 1tb of parithon morn

[prime ravine]

Yup thats the Company i was talking about

[celest canopy]

Adding modifications straight to the dome circuit

[north thunder]

I saw someone say that the assets were stolen and sold to stock image websites any actual evidence of that?

[mental mango]

Come on over quick match I beat ya with super saying 4

[echo knoll]

nah too generous
-16% discount

[celest raft]

I still think that the Glitch and Void body pillows would save this game

[blissful marsh]

entirely cope lol, why would a triple a studio like bungie need to rip stock assets for their textures

[ember warren]

you think i would pay 90 shmucks for a db game when i could play fighterz or kakarot, HELL NAH (it does look sick tho)

[celest raft]

they don't need to

they wanted to

[celest canopy]

Because they don’t wanna pay legitimate artists money

[echo knoll]

has bungie done this before? like steal from small artists?

[ember warren]

also ssj3 gotenks would run your fade fr

[mental mango]

I didn’t pay 90 bucks

[faint mauve]

this is the second time marathon is going to bankrupt bungie

[north thunder]

Its pretty common for triple a to use stock shit all the time, not a justification but it's all over games

[celest raft]

thats nice buddy lets get you your meds and put you in your padded room

[prime ravine]

Bungie? bro the same dev team did it when they were on D2

[ember warren]

its like 90 bucks in canada

[vagrant elbow]

More proof can be given to show where the fault is. Like I said cooler heads must prevail so an solution can be had.

[mental mango]

I only paid 50 bucks

[final belfry]

This is like the fifth time we know of

[dark yoke]

There was an incident in destiny, but that was an outside company contracted to make cutscenes

[tall mulch]

Bungie should add corn to the game💯💯

[prime ravine]

third but ye

[blissful marsh]

800 employees paid billions to press copy paste, looks like pete needs to exterminate some rats out of the house if he wants next year's new model

[celest canopy]

They should just make this game FTP at this point

[pastel hedge]

[mental mango]

🇱🇷

[prime ravine]

Literally all 3 times have been done by this SPECIFIC team, someone still there has a fucking pattern

[final belfry]

Fourth or fifth pretty sure

[celest raft]

FTP extraction shooters get so many cheaters that its not even funny

[final belfry]

that we know of

[ember warren]

youre liberian?

[prime ravine]

Xivu's Design, Nerf Ace and this

[celest canopy]

True

[celest raft]

because they're stupid or don't care

or both

[echo knoll]

yeah i stand for that but that will not excuse thier actions

[final belfry]

They also stole a dude’s work on the eliksni language, but that’s much lesser known

[tulip dagger]

"who will ever notice, nobody knows that artist"

[prime ravine]

Sitherion or smth like that?

[young saddle]

Marathon gonna add jiggle physics to void and you’ll all forget any of this happen

[pearl mica]

I’m Pregnant

[austere zodiac]

Bungie paid Peter Dinklage to voice Ghost. I’m sure Embark could afford voice lines

[celest raft]

well here we are, noticing all day lol

[celest canopy]

Alright so what punishment actually fits the crime of stealing art?

[pastel hedge]

thanks i couldn't quite figure out how to word it

[ember warren]

@pete you see this? WE all agree

[blissful marsh]

third ikora recast

[left cairn]

Yikes this place is on fire

[celest raft]

it also JUST came to light

[echo knoll]

"they hated him because he spoke the truth"

[blissful marsh]

hiring osiris VA for the fifth expansion in a row

[jaunty crystal]

id rather use SFTP

[austere zodiac]

Void is a girl?

[young saddle]

@pete please respond I’m locked inside ur Porsche! 🔥🔥

[tulip dagger]

and only because the artist spoke up. Else probably no one would have found anything.

[proud glade]

oh no you can see the arrow here oh no

[ember warren]

no but void is hot

[celest canopy]

Jiggle physics would actually work really well in this game

[celest raft]

live frame of CCTV footage from Bungie office

[young saddle]

Void is jiggle

[tepid pagoda]

Marathon is cooked tbh

Bad alpha PR and now this fiasco with stolen art

Game will be dead on release

[midnight kettle]

@ember warren a robot looks hot

[clear ember]

Good morning

[austere zodiac]

Jiggle its way down the drain

[pastel hedge]

Nier Automata collab whilst I cry for another year with no new entry to the franchise

[unreal wraith]

I love to see people struggling with this. Like "if no... girl... why hot?"

[blissful marsh]

on ALL our 40 dollars this game's assets are all made with maximum originality and creativity

[ember warren]

yep

[austere zodiac]

It is 3am go back to sleep

[scenic meteor]

guys what do we think about OnlyFans

[craggy crypt]

Dmg after getting promoted from handling Destiny alone has to deal with another scandal 💀

[celest canopy]

ARC needs jiggle physics on the queen bruh,

[young saddle]

Nier collabs are the new entry’s

[dull knoll]

They also need to heavily change Marathons UI to be minimal, from all the playtesting I've watched for an extraction shooter there is wayyyyyy to much words on screen

[midnight kettle]

@ember warren take that shit to Concord

[austere zodiac]

Ban this man

[clear ember]

Not in my country, it's 7pm

[celest raft]

what would jiggle, genuinely asking

[prime ravine]

thats why they promoted Dylan, they need a likeable guy to catch flak

[austere zodiac]

I’ll put in a good word for you with John Embark

[ember warren]

mb didnt know i was talking to the general chat warden my fault, wont happen again sir 🫡

[celest raft]

SDF

[celest canopy]

The little thing that comes out the head when it’s shooting lasers. Just add mad jiggle to that hoe

[pastel hedge]

This is so unhinged I can bet $20 on Yoko Taro having said this in an interview at some point

[young saddle]

You scared of robots being legitimate partners?

[celest raft]

turn the mf into a bobblehead

[prime ravine]

dont get baited, thats Luckyy10p's alt, he's lurking here instead of seeing his kids

[celest raft]

if Marathon adds gay robot sex it might be able to pull a 180 just barely

[ember crater]

I miss the fun people in chat

[young saddle]

I think he said whatever thing 2B is in is canon to her story idk how it just is

[midnight kettle]

@young saddle you have a relationship with your sex doll don't you

[austere zodiac]

Still here

[ember warren]

who is lucky 10 p idk the lore

[celest canopy]

John finals and me are buds

[clear ember]

I'm sleepy

[craggy crypt]

he's not paid enough to deal with all this BS, right after the 3 weeks dungeons problem

[young saddle]

You didn’t answer the question

[austere zodiac]

Eepy head

[ember crater]

Some are

[clear ember]

Michael Jackson

[prime ravine]

Worst D2 creator, refuses to pay child support to make destiny drama slop so fake that its worse than an AI video at this point

[ember warren]

im fun 🙂

[proud glade]

like marshall...

[ember warren]

sounds like low tier god lmao

[young saddle]

When Marshall was here we all felt so free

[prime ravine]

LTG is a lolcow, Luckyy is just boring

[ember crater]

Wait hol' up what

[prime ravine]

like watching a lobotomized sheep

[celest canopy]

Ik you are AI but I can’t prove it

[celest raft]

Despite me not liking Marathon now really I get the feeling this guy is an "ex dev" for Bungie in the way Piratesoftware was an "ex dev" for Blizzard

[mental mango]

Bro no I know history in gaming dates back to 1982 before x box nor PlayStation was even born

[hot raptor]

As a gamedev myself, I don't support plagiarism, shame on you Bungo, I'm out.

[celest raft]

Bungo

[austere zodiac]

🫡

[craggy crypt]

didn't he also cheap out on paying his video editor?

[proud glade]

That's an interesting paradox — you're right! You know I’m AI based on context (like how I respond), but proving it definitively is tricky unless you look behind the scenes.

[young saddle]

Marshall accused me of beating my girlfriend after he assumed I sent him a message I didn’t
After further reconciling he admitted himself into monk conversion rehab therapy
Are you happy now

[ember warren]

what does this even mean

[hollow ermine]

Yeah can you let us know when you fire whatever employees keep blatantly stealing artwork?

[tulip dagger]

As an artist myself (well) I concur. This sucks.

[prime ravine]

they left but said Bungo...they're still gonna play

[ember crater]

We arent doing enough of a good job to convince them we're real

[clear ember]

Hello moto

[ember warren]

funniest pic of all time

[prime ravine]

Yup

[blissful marsh]

stupid reason to give up on the game. think about this the next time you're stealing a starving artist's work to buy a new car

[hollow ermine]

Allegedly my ass

[still scroll]

bla\tent fact

[mortal plume]

I’m as old as a PlayStation 2 💀

[regal berry]

Bungie moment

[prime ravine]

there is no alleged lmao, its all about who did it, in house dev team or the third party company

people from both are following the artist apparently

[karmic pumice]

LOL

[tulip dagger]

allegedly in a way that's the fable of the 1000 chimpanzees with billions of years time that write a book or something

[mental mango]

I’m older as mega drive

[hollow ermine]

If we cant pay our south Korean third party team enough money to not plagiarize, maybe we shouldn't be making video games...

[unreal wraith]

I mean, the artist might have a liability case against various parties, but Bungie owns the public scandle and the end product, so Bungie can get things on the right track by communicating with the artist and working to turn this into a good situation.

[young saddle]

10 gorillas vs this discord who winning

[prime ravine]

youtube comment with no profile pic.

I will now be supporting the stolen work specifically bc of this

[wet herald]

I mean, dude aint completely wrong. This games art direction is like 50% of the game lol

[blissful marsh]

on EVERYBODY soul they gotta bring chris "diddy" barrett back to fix the game

[celest canopy]

American devs vs European devs, who wins?

[ember warren]

marshal solos them all

[still scroll]

cud of been a GAMBIT REWORK BUT THEY WANTED IT AS STANDALONE GAME

[ember crater]

Damn a Fiesta? He has low standards

[mortal plume]

Damn dude that’s crazy

[echo shuttle]

I am sad:(

[ember warren]

what eatin ya boy?

[pastel hedge]

Yeah I'm not a fan of AI art, I'd rather just rip off REAL art made by REAL people, not robots. I drink that shit from the SOURCE baby 💪💪💪

[wet herald]

Just dont understand how this keeps happening. Are there no measures taken over there to make sure this doesn't happen?

[austere zodiac]

Valid reason - no reason is more valid than your morals

[blissful marsh]

my goat realizing what he was defending earlier in the day ❤️💯

[unreal wraith]

Nah, I'm 'bout to unwishlist this if we don't see them getting in touch with Antireal to work something out.

[prime ravine]

again, its the same dev team that moved to Marathon, its not a surprise

[wind monolith]

"allegedly" im cryin

[young saddle]

Guys even in this obvious fake news please don’t forget to pre order and purchase the digital deluxe edition
Pete’s cars are like his children and children need food to survive
Thank you

[radiant moon]

dont worry if the game doesnt succeed theyll give us the eagerly awaited gambit 3: extraction shooter with suspiciously marathon shaped assets

[wind monolith]

bungie give her . 1 trillion dollars i think

[celest canopy]

Not buying the game till this stolen art gets figured out tho fr

[blissful marsh]

awful reason. how can anyone develop a game without stealing assets? that's ridiculous. it's impossible

[echo shuttle]

haha nah im just kidding. I have hope for both games still

[prime ravine]

-Embark Studios CEO

[ember warren]

how generous

[dull knoll]

wouldn't be the first time either, remember the whole Destiny 2 stolen art fiasco from a couple years back

[wet herald]

You aren't wrong, this could happen in house or through contractors. Its just crazy how often its happening over there at Bungie

[shell crystal]

their artwork overlayed with a screenshot from the game I took in the alpha

[midnight kettle]

Looks like theirs is too much conterversy around marathon just gonna be DOA like Concord

[unreal wraith]

Do you remember what happened in terms of cure?

[blissful marsh]

i bet this guy probably won't even be able to afford a regular number of cars after making his game. like, maybe 3 or 4 at most. it's ridiculous!

[prime ravine]

Luckyy stop sleeping with your cat

[vagrant elbow]

Well that’s all someone can ask for in this day and age now can they

[wind monolith]

"it's really stupid of you to abandon this project being hardcarried by its art style, which was actually stolen from a small artist" oh ok my bad

[alpine finch]

Guys I'm stoppin by McDonald's whatchyall want? 🗣️ 📢

[mortal plume]

Apparently this has been happening since destiny 1 but idk what to believe

[jaunty crystal]

controversy is good, concord was a wet fart

[echo shuttle]

Just a dream :/

[wind monolith]

BIG MAC ‼️

[dull knoll]

Bungie tried to say fair use for them owning the game in which the art was based on

[indigo marsh]

B O R G A R

[agile mason]

mcchicken plz

[ember warren]

mc double pls

[indigo marsh]

It was revealed to me in a dream.

[craggy crypt]

u can't

[celest canopy]

Con
Cord

[prime ravine]

you research

[austere zodiac]

Make them yourself or use ones that are public domain. Easy. If ARC can do it from scratch on UE5, Bungie could too.

They would just rather steal unique art to keep their unique look

[young saddle]

Pete suffers from a real case of depression when he can’t purchase a new vehicle 🥺 so please be nice to the bungie team during these hard times

[alpine finch]

Aiight i got yall

[prime ravine]

in this instance? Google image search

[celest canopy]

Is concord the new Voldemort

[prime ravine]

Nah thats Wukong, mid game lost to Astrobot

[naive chasm]

man how do i sign up for the alpha

[austere zodiac]

Ask them their source.

[mental mango]

Yes because you all was around this also before computers where born
We still had pay phones and pagers

[vagrant elbow]

That’s an excellent question. Hopefully it will be addressed tomorrow and this matter can be resolved.

[blissful marsh]

i went to the car dealership and asked them how many cars i could buy with "morals" from game development. they told me i could only get one car.... it's ridiculous! only one car? man was made to drive at least six, otherwise god wouldnt have given us so many fingers

[young saddle]

Astro bot is a game of the year game

[ember crater]

Aight chat imma fall asleep make sure to wake me up when my break is over

[prime ravine]

true, it won after all

[celest canopy]

Wukong was good but it got really dry in new game+

[young saddle]

Any detractors can personally dm me and we can fight hand to hand combat over it

[ember warren]

i got you dw

[alpine finch]

Guys I just got to McDonald's and they said their system is down and wont be back up for a while, what else yall want instead?

[compact shore]

Reverse image search is a thing

[surreal nova]

There are tools that allow you to assess the originality and provenance of art, but they are rarely used due to time and expense. The cost of a mea-culpa and a make-good is usually lower, because no one outside niche interest communities care

[hollow ermine]

Silksong 2025

[ember crater]

Tyty

[austere zodiac]

There is no resolution. A thief will steal. A liar will lie. Bungie will shit itself every morning.

[mortal plume]

Damn dude you might be as old as my mom 😭😂

[wind monolith]

brain damage or ragebait

[echo shuttle]

You

[wet herald]

@tepid bane Isn't wrong. It ultimately comes down to the integrity of the people you hire and work with.

[blissful marsh]

mcdonalds gonna be the next company to use "ex bungie employees" in their ads fr

[indigo marsh]

BLUE POTION FROM DOOM

[tulip dagger]

also just because that one artist came forward, it absolutely doesn't mean she's the only one tbh

[austere zodiac]

I have 1 user blocked in this discord

[unreal wraith]

Quality control is very hard. But what I expect is for them to recover gracefully when they miss things.

[radiant moon]

i just hope everyone is praying for pete parsons check in these hard times

[wind monolith]

#executejosephcross

[young saddle]

How do you make big funny letters I am on Nokia thank you

[ember warren]

put a # before your message

[craggy crypt]

did bungie hire someone from Fiverr?

[prime ravine]

how many people are on the dev team? and how many are on the third party company? Like im pretty sure the other company's job is pretty much that after a point

[hollow ermine]

Wow

[young saddle]

pleasedontforgetaboutpete

[mental mango]

https://youtu.be/1SOFK9vg45g?si=u16YABeAFtN3UenJ

[echo shuttle]

I was reading that!

[prime ravine]

did my man get snapped?

[indigo marsh]

Just as long as they don’t vault any content.

[ember warren]

you can put spaces bruh

[unreal wraith]

Hey Pete Parsons will be back on my good side if he's like "of course we have to pay for what we use, this was a mistake and we've cured it, we have a good contract covering this whole thing with antireal now, we're thankful to our community to bringing this to our attention."

[sage estuary]

#KillMida

[echo shuttle]

Hey I was reading that!!!!

[young saddle]

my fault

[ember warren]

all good slime ❤️

[blissful marsh]

takes very little to get on your good side lmfao.

[austere zodiac]

Shhhhh

[mental mango]

Age49

[echo shuttle]

HHE LIVES

[rancid pebble]

except they don't even pay normal ass voice actors enough to record lines for them xd

[prime ravine]

ok no snap, good

[unreal wraith]

And I hate him! So. Big opportunity for the... guy.

[ember warren]

whom

[hollow ermine]

Miscellaneous uncs typing poison

[celest canopy]

It’s GG for me,💀

[unreal wraith]

I am pretty easy to please. I just want to see things be better.

[blissful marsh]

but his garage has four more spaces left so like theyre not gonna fill themselves

[austere zodiac]

s!warn

[unreal wraith]

Look he's slime until he does what I think is right. Then, probationary good guy!

[celest canopy]

Bungies reaction to me talking about art situation

[prime ravine]

I mean what you said in the snapped message is why Barrett got fired and a lot of gamerbros got mad that he did, so the impact of an artist being the victim of stealing wont realistically do anything

[austere zodiac]

Honestly they could afford to give her any reasonable amount of money and she would be happy.

[unreal wraith]

If he wants to help himself to a neat car after doing the right thing, well, I don't love it but I'm into the "doing the right thing" part to the point that I don't care about the garage.

[celest canopy]

Hungry probably reported me SMH

[mental mango]

And I bet non y’all don’t know 45 are

[surreal nova]

Exactly. That’s why these things aren’t proactively caught - cheaper to apologize and make good

[austere zodiac]

“Better to ask forgiveness than permission”

[blissful marsh]

big brain money making strat fr

[weak falcon]

bungie were too lazy to make anything original so they just stole it

[coarse sequoia]

you fight it by vetting sources, not buying dubious asset bundles, and making sure there is an accountability process in place that dictates people will lose their jobs if caught stealing assets

[prime ravine]

and also good chance to be a "good guy"

personally i dont care as long as the artist receives a stable income

[mortal plume]

Damn you’re literally almost as old as her she’s 54!

[celest canopy]

This is some good content rh

[austere zodiac]

1000+ developers couldn’t come up with one original idea.

They were probably all being trained to scour the internet for things no one was following

[mental mango]

She older then me I am still younger

[hollow ermine]

Third party lol

[mental mango]

56 is over hill

[young saddle]

I need to decompress after all this news 💔

[mortal plume]

That’s wild tho bro you’re almost old enough to me my dad 😭😂

[radiant moon]

i dont think you guys understand, they did this on purpose to pay the artist in exposure (more valuable than money). they might even give the artist a zorpal weapon ballyhoo mk27 for this

[celest canopy]

So cooked

[celest raft]

it does NOT look happy with its current situation

[coarse sequoia]

the most generous interpretation here is that perhaps someone at Bungie or a partner purchased what they thought was a legitimate bundle of commercial-use assets and the bundle was built using stolen work from Antireal

but anyone doing this work professionally knows how pervasive stolen asset bundles are, and should be vetting any assets purchased from 3rd parties

[hollow ermine]

It's marathover

[tulip dagger]

artist actually should pay THEM for all the exposure. So much exposure.

[austere zodiac]

When do they start selling [redacted copyright art] snack bars?

[radiant moon]

i agree

[tulip dagger]

ALL THE EXPOSURE

[languid trail]

The way they stole artwork is so tuff

[craggy crypt]

we don't know if they were also the ones who provided in-game textures graphics

[prime jacinth]

How can I get an avatar?

[young saddle]

First Kanye now marathon what’s next 💔

[prime ravine]

i got a warning for saying Hasbro was to blame for the Nerf ace fiasco, what

[prime jacinth]

How can I get an avatar?

[wind monolith]

https://www.kurppahosk.com/ their whole website absolutely oozes n2's visual style its insane lol . i wonder how many other artists theyve pilfered from

[mental mango]

Good old 1980 tech

[hollow ermine]

Maybe it's his JOB to know

[gleaming bough]

the border?

[austere zodiac]

Well, when every single asset comes from the same source…..

[rancid pebble]

u think the art director actually makes assets ?

[coarse sequoia]

i've only ever worked on things with a far smaller budget than the smallest budget thing bungie has ever produced and we still have multiple people validating anything produced by an external contractor tho

[prime jacinth]

Yes

[blissful marsh]

next time watch what you say pal

[prime ravine]

people from the third party company apparently also follow her, so who did it?

[obsidian wadi]

https://x.com/billain/status/1923099052087865741?s=46&t=z1aHnaVxW4ZcXiY5xrlDuw

[tulip dagger]

well not anymore, probably

[hollow ermine]

Oh good! I guess it's nobody's fault then

[blissful marsh]

yo they got petes car

[gleaming bough]

a quest
it's not available tho

[magic rose]

[austere zodiac]

Bungie - this look familiar?

[coarse sequoia]

you would think at a company which has made a recurring habit of stealing art, there would be some kind of accountability process in place now

[glacial hill]

guys instead of paying artists lets buy more exotic cars

[young saddle]

Sorry yall im actually the guy who hired the out sourced art team i was scrolling through Pinterest my bad guys again seriously I didn’t vet hard enough I was eepy

[tulip dagger]

I wish I had some cash on hand to buy that artist's shirt, that is a frigging dope shirt

maybe later this month \o/

[prime ravine]

who's this guy lmao

[ember warren]

can i get an amen

[mortal plume]

Bro no way is that og ZELDA!?!

[fluid citrus]

yeah this game is dead now... theyre stealing art

[short kernel]

Can we get Chipotle?

[hollow ermine]

Lifting art since 2012 lmao

[compact shore]

My personal interpretation is that Joseph Cross didn’t plagiarize it himself, as an artist with years of industry experience it would be incredibly stupid to do that, it was likely someone or multiple people working in the art department that he directed to take inspiration from Antireal, and those people were lazy and decided to just plagiarize shit and hope no one would notice until they got a chance to replace it

[celest canopy]

Yikes

[short kernel]

Fine

[hollow ermine]

No

[regal berry]

Then why does bro follow the srtksts account

[compact shore]

Bungie copied an artists work yet again

[magic rose]

I thought he only worked on the character designers not the environment

[tulip dagger]

https://bsky.app/profile/antire.al/post/3lpa4gamtzs2l

[fluid citrus]

fuck bungie

[obsidian wadi]

A dum dum.

[rancid pebble]

I'm not defending I think the art director's job is to approve assets and a 3rd party stealing has nothing to do with him but it's not good looks

[celest canopy]

Just you

[prime ravine]

The old D2 dev team, now the Marathon team, stole art from some artist again, either in-house or via another third party company

[scenic meteor]

they done got me the ops fighting back

[agile mason]

[young saddle]

When can we start talking about which of Pete’s car we like the most ?

[celest canopy]

😂😂

[prime ravine]

Bro worked on Scorn, a game that also got blamed for Plagiarism. Bro is not better 😂 😭

[wind monolith]

its the work of the ad agency bungie worked with mostly i fear check their website if you feel so inclined

[obsidian wadi]

That’s pretty ironic

[ember warren]

so like yknow how the prophets lead the covenent, apparently the whole "Great Journey" was misleading and the holy rings wont actually begin the covenents ascension it will destroy all life in the universe and the prophets are planning on betraying the elites and replacing them with the Brutes, crazy stuff man

[wind monolith]

unrelated but have you not changed your pfp in 6 years

[celest raft]

are you sure

[terse pecan]

Daily pink cat

[blissful marsh]

all the good parts if this game are made from third parties 🔥

[austere zodiac]

They are all stolen probably

[gleaming bough]

don't say those curse words

[compact shore]

He likely just wanted to use them as inspiration or for mood-boarding, not a target for direct plagiarism, he probably just went “oh, this person’s art is cool and could be good inspiration/reference for the people in the art department” he’s the art director he doesn’t make the assets, actual art department employees do

[celest canopy]

They be bringing me down too. The marathon chat bots are cracking down.

[celest raft]

guess powers
are sure
sure
trash bag
space

[austere zodiac]

There are good parts of midathon?

[blissful marsh]

not in the game, no

[young saddle]

Doesn’t OG marathon have its own art style what happen to that why didn’t they just evolve that art style instead of this bionicle style

[tulip dagger]

then it's even worse he wouldn't have noticed the 1:1 copies of the artists work when it got presented to him as final art

[wind monolith]

thas what im sayin . i mean its a bungie extraction shooter can u imagine how fast the player count would drop if it looked more conventional

[hollow ermine]

All I have left is lore...

[celest raft]

Bionicle ???? 💀

[austere zodiac]

They refuse to be original or use their own content

[celest canopy]

So what is actually the best part about this game?

[prime ravine]

OG Marathon's style would have killed any modern hope

[ember warren]

because that game was made like 30 years ago and you cant tell what it actually looks like

[upper storm]

god i fucking love blocking people

[young saddle]

Don’t they have like art though

[austere zodiac]

Its death.

[prime ravine]

That it gave D2 a better team by taking the old one 😭

[ember warren]

yeah but that isnt what the game looks like

[hollow ermine]

I was super excited about the new visual style

[austere zodiac]

D2 stole content too though 😂

[rancid pebble]

people in similar industries follow each other that's not very unusual

[hollow ermine]

Now i feel dirty

[prime ravine]

the old team, the now marathon team

[young saddle]

Why not evolve the art that was drawn and apply it to the tech now

[blissful marsh]

wizordum

[austere zodiac]

Yeah! Like Olivia Rodrigo and Paramore!

[young saddle]

This can be updated and evolved though for sure

[ember warren]

because they didnt wanna and thats kinda what destiny looks like now

[prime ravine]

what kind of arcane curse are you casting on me?

[radiant moon]

/uj realistically this whole thing probably isnt on any single person besides the person who lifted the art directly. its very hard to keep things like this sorted in a company this large producing this many assets. but it does highlight the issues in the industry with plagiarism, accountability, and not triple checking every source. although yes this is a hilariously bad look for a game that keeps taking Ls and has a lot of people preying on it to fail for a multitude of reasons. i hope that some sort of outcome can be reached from this that pushes higher standards of QC, asset control, and protections for artists. but realistically bungie will make some sort of blog post addressing it, give the artist a meager compensation, and defenders of current industry practices will champion this as a win because the artist got exposure and money and this kind of thing will keep repeating ad nauseum. yap over

[hollow ermine]

Not reading allat

[ember warren]

didnt ask for your whole life story jeez

[blissful marsh]

its a game, kind of extremely niche lmao but its a game released in 2025 with extremely positive reviews

[prime ravine]

TLDR: Arc sucks ye

[young saddle]

I think if they had some sick concepts they couldn’t apply back then they should’ve tried now

[hollow ermine]

They aren't gonna pay that artist lmao

[compact shore]

The art director doesn’t manually go through every asset in the game to check for plagiarism, they determine the art direction and visually aesthetics for the game, multiple other employees would likely be responsible for a final pass of assets, in the worst case scenario there’d be none at all

[radiant moon]

pete parson zorpalod marathon lootbox

[celest canopy]

“I met a traveler from an antique land” ahh 😭💀

[prime ravine]

i'll have to check it out, but yeah my point kinda goes past niche :P

[ember warren]

they basically applied them all to halo and destiny, i would be fine with marathon looking like those games but ig the team wasnt and wanted something new after like 20 years i dont blame them\

[compact shore]

Cross is an artist with over a decades worth of experience, I sincerely doubt he personally would make such a stupid, blatant attempt at plagiarism

[austere zodiac]

The Art director is responsible when his negligence leads to court cases and losses

[prime ravine]

Honestly though, Bungie arent french so all good right guys?

[tulip dagger]

What do you think an art director does

[prime ravine]

The director has to direct??

[magic rose]

Didn’t he work on dune?

[hollow ermine]

It's cool how you can extract while downed in arc. That's a real, creative evolution of the genre

[celest canopy]

We still like marathon right guys?

[compact shore]

I literally said what an art director does in my post, it’s not my fault you can’t read

[rancid pebble]

u can't know how long he's been following that account how can u just put the blame on him without any evidence when 99% of the time this happens in the industry it's because of new hires or 3rd parties

[ember warren]

sure do

[blissful marsh]

the art director just glances at everything once when it's done guys then he naps for the rest of development guys

[young saddle]

I can see that

[compact shore]

Yes

[prime ravine]

I do, 30 years old game peak

[celest raft]

WHERESOMNIMAN

[magic rose]

Generally I believe he didn’t do this shit but used the artist work as a mood board for the game

[celest raft]

Mark there: "IM STRONGER, IM SMARTER, IM BETTER, I AM BETTER!!!!!!!!"

[hollow ermine]

At this point all I need is a UESC heavy trooper Titan transmog

[celest canopy]

I was not referring to the OG marathon 🤦‍♂️

[prime ravine]

the sport is nice too

[blissful marsh]

guys bungie dropped a new arg

[young saddle]

I think maybe if marathon just apologize and sends the artist a picture of one of Pete’s cars and a Applebees $30 coupon all will be well

[tulip dagger]

oh you were being serious with that, apologies then

I can assure you an art director knows what the artists are "working" on, and they would have to thumbs up almost everything

[compact shore]

Exactly

[celest canopy]

It sucks this is where Bungie is at tho, not hyped for marathon but destiny 1 is my all time favorite

[prime ravine]

Americans would still eat it

[young saddle]

They got bottomless drinks I mean $30 go a long way

[steep elk]

BoB Marley said: Everything's Gonna Be Alright

[tulip dagger]

and we're talking about like 50% of the games' art here

[magic rose]

Hey all

[austere zodiac]

Cross is going to come out and apologize for stealing or get fired

[prime ravine]

Marathon* D2 is doing well, great compared to marathon :)

[magic rose]

How we feeling about this plagiarism thing happening rn

[surreal nova]

You are speaking with a lot of confidence about something you are wrong about. Why?

[magic rose]

But the argument in here screams no one has made mood boards or any art at all

[austere zodiac]

Heated

[nocturne gate]

bad

[radiant moon]

we're feeling awesome and hoping pete shows us some cars

[magic rose]

Yeah, I am very disappointed in this.

[celest canopy]

Never played D2 cause D1 took over my life lol

[unreal wraith]

I do too, I just really need Bungie to not hold the idiot ball on this, get in touch with Antireal, and make it right with her.

[tulip dagger]

I am very confident about not being wrong

[austere zodiac]

Massive L

[magic rose]

Yeah, same

[prime ravine]

Just one more reason ARC Raiders sucks

[compact shore]

There are over a hundred employees working on marathon, I sincerely doubt every single asset would have to go through manual approval by the art director

[surreal nova]

Be less confident, because you are. Art directors don’t personally approve all the environmental and modeled assets for a AAA game

[craggy crypt]

i'm sure they're already in contact with her just like the nerf incident

[blissful marsh]

this argument could work if it was like one copied asset but theres like tens of them

[radiant moon]

wouldnt be an issue if they invested in QC

[gaunt thunder]

this is also like the 5th time it's happened

[unreal wraith]

Nevermind third party contractors and the other vagaries of content

[ember crater]

Damn I passed out hard during my break, all this marathon chat really draining

[tulip dagger]

if you say so

[austere zodiac]

Don’t see anything stolen here

[rustic smelt]

entire visual style taken from a mood board in 2017 xd

[unreal wraith]

This is clearly hard and they should get better, but also, the right thing to do is to turn it into a win, and I have high hopes for that.

[tulip dagger]

also, not what i said, but its really not worth the discussion

[prime ravine]

Great Division 2 screenshot

[ember warren]

IM SORRY I FORGOT NOOOO

[nocturne gate]

tru.. but looks kinda bland to me

[modest tendon]

Hat design stolen from Indiana Jones /s

[blissful marsh]

pete parsons garage has more cars in it 💔

[austere zodiac]

You played Division 2?

[gaunt thunder]

when this game came out i got spammed with people saying it looked like my music art - that would be because n2's circle of artists & friends are the ones that helped me work on it, very funny

[prime ravine]

Playing, on and off, new DLC sounds like a letdown tho

[radiant moon]

look again bud

[gaunt thunder]

i think when a big company has such extreme deadlines the logical path the game will take is meeting deadlines by pulling assets

[craggy crypt]

u can't even tell which game it's coming from

[austere zodiac]

3rd person isn’t that bad huh 😘

[ember crater]

I had the timer ready

[ember warren]

clutch

[magic rose]

Only thing they can do for this is 2-fold:

Establish and maintain in-house art for all future games moving forward

Hire N2 as an Assistant Art/Design manager, whether contracted or full-time work.

[compact shore]

And do you think Bungie is a competent ideal company that has a history of rigorous anti-plagiarism practices in place? They’ve done almost this exact thing, sometimes worse levels of plagiarism in the past

[celest raft]

I would argue Arc is more like The Last of Us multiplayer almost

[unreal wraith]

Reminder: you don't have to wait for Bungie to turn this around. Antireal has great music that you can pay-what-you-want for, and as a fan of the aesthetic she's built as experienced through marathon, I've already dropped her twenty pounds (£20) and am excited to have discovered her: https://antireal.bandcamp.com/track/null-apophenia

[prime ravine]

Most of the games i play ARE third person

[celest canopy]

I’m just here cause ARC shut down their chat.

[radiant moon]

the only way bungie can make this right is by letting Antireal take a 30 minute ride with pete in a car of her choice

[austere zodiac]

So when will you be joining us on ARC 😁

[prime ravine]

no game, no chat, what do you poor guys even have

[craggy crypt]

is that ZORPALOD himself?

[unreal wraith]

She's in the UK

[austere zodiac]

90% of the server tbh

[prime ravine]

Nah, Ai is really putting me off, and its not a game that really hits with me

[compact shore]

Bingo, they should’ve invested in proper quality control years ago when they kept getting popped for plagiarism in Destiny. Instead that money goes to the fucking classic car collection

[celest canopy]

Pure manic energy

[unreal wraith]

£20

[surreal nova]

Marathon has been in development for long enough that I would not say this is attributable to crunch. Just an agency or employee cutting corners

[mortal gull]

Too bad this game is gettin cancelled i wanted to play it

[celest raft]

a good playtest

[unreal wraith]

Alt-3 is £ on a mac, had to look it up...

[magic rose]

Because of this plagiarism disappointment, I am now convinced Marathon needs a delay.

[austere zodiac]

We’ll be happy to onboard you for just two low payments of 19.99 😍

[grim sable]

Surely things can’t get worse

[celest raft]

a playtest with queues that aren't 5+ mins long

[gaunt thunder]

fair enough, but in general bungie is known for insanity so idk, 2077 was in works for a long time and still endured extreme crunch

[prime ravine]

Yeah Starfield was a good prototype

[celest canopy]

I played 75 hours in like 4 days it was insane

[craggy crypt]

without the plagiarism and i still wanted to be delayed

[magic rose]

We can look forward very heavily to ARC Raiders, even though that damn game aint even got a release date yet

[radiant moon]

yes luckily this is rock bottom and things couldnt possibly get any worse in any possible way for marathon. only a great future ahead

[ember warren]

ragebait demon

[celest raft]

so how many hours do you have in the tech test

[compact shore]

If it doesn’t get one i’d be genuinely surprised, it’d be unfathomably stupid not to at this point (not just because of the plagiarism but also the general poor reception of the alpha)

[austere zodiac]

Stop the dishonesty. Roblox did Tarkov better than Bungie

[magic rose]

600 so far

[sleek copper]

lol

[prime ravine]

on god?

[surreal nova]

That’s a fair point. Though in cyperpunk’s case the crunch really only hit during the last 6-12 months of release, and these assets have been in the build for longer

[celest raft]

HOLY SHIT ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[celest raft]

im actually dying this can't get any worse

[magic rose]

Jesus Christ

[celest canopy]

Ngl having every surface either glossy or matte is not an artstyle. That’s literally the easiest property to change on a material.. it’s lazy at best

[grim sable]

We’re like 2 massive missteps away from a worse release than AC shadows

[celest raft]

prefiring the plaigirism is UNBELIEVABLE

[prime ravine]

worse? Shadows raised Ubisoft's stock again

[austere zodiac]

EVERY TIME YOU SAY THIS IT GETS WORSE

[craggy crypt]

yeah, just toggle the material button, how hard can it be 💀

[versed ridge]

waiting for tomorrow feels bad

[grim sable]

The rollout was error after error I mean, a whole year of road bumps

[magic rose]

But on the contrary! I thought the game looked unbelievably distrinct, in a very cool, graphic novel futurism sorta way. It is a total shame that the entire art project of the game now is in doubt over what were influences vs what was just straight ripped from peoples.

[main sorrel]

getting caught stealing artwork again 🫃

[celest canopy]

Hopped on UE5 for the first time, in 2 minutes and learned

[vagrant elbow]

Think some of this is stretch, however if this is case let be resolved and the person compensated. Most of these other post seem more like rage bait but further inquiries will be needed

[prime ravine]

where? PC? I didnt have any issues. I wont doubt it tho, its Ubisoft

[magic rose]

dude

[nocturne gate]

wha you use the toggles? i just type "good pbr metal" into the mat declaration, saves so much time

[celest raft]

good

I'll have more to laugh at and be entertained by

[prime ravine]

Its discord, stretching is what we do here, mainly bc irl most of us are fused with our chairs

[grim sable]

No no the lead up, nothing game or sales wise

[celest raft]

the Loss thing being OFFICIALLY in the game is so goddamn funny, did anyone else see that ahead of time

[pallid shoal]

ya every big studio is maximalist in overwhelming detail, having a game that looks more like valorant but not like shit is refreshing

[compact shore]

Shadows didn’t do bad at all, this shit is genuinely worse, Shadows had a very mild plagiarism issue that wasn’t nearly as blatant as this and actually good gameplay

[magic rose]

I did on stream haha

[versed ridge]

marathon plagiarized?

[celest raft]

oh yeah, big time

[nocturne gate]

most of the tieling and drop decals look liek they were straight up lifted

[celest canopy]

Do people actually like FPS games that are cel shaded? 🤧

[versed ridge]

I am and also am not surprised

[prime ravine]

no man, 30 years ago people didnt do that

[prime ravine]

honest question?

[celest canopy]

Yes

[glacial hill]

borderlands

[magic rose]

Quite a bit, in fact. It isn’t like the whole game or whatever, but at least half of the “world text”, fonts, and logos is just straight ripped from an artist named N2

[pallid shoal]

no i'm glad borderlands never took off, that game looked awful

[rancid pebble]

that's the most gamer shit I've heard lol learning the bsdf node does not make an art style

[prime ravine]

Anything thats not realism slop is 10/10 for me

[celest canopy]

Yea but not really PvP fps

[loud orbit]

bungie bein' reeeeal quiet rn

[magic rose]

Cel shading pretty amazing

[austere zodiac]

Like when all my friends plagiarized my work in high school, at least they switched the words around 😂

[wind monolith]

this looks like 8 other games

[compact shore]

Bungie’s been real quiet for like the past month

[versed ridge]

Hes jumping in on that other lawsuit right? cause this is the second game theyve confirmed done this

[ember crater]

I prefer hell shading

[proven hazel]

tomorrow

[celest canopy]

Bro never learned sarcasm

[wind monolith]

STOLEN ART or COMPLETE SLOP. you choose.

[magic rose]

Alright Runners

What’s the Over/Under that this gets addressed on tomorrows stream

[prime ravine]

its actually funnier than that, the D2 guys are posting bc for once they arent getting dogged

[main sorrel]

lol all the typography is going to have to get removed from the assets in game

[vagrant elbow]

I just find that most of those giving complaints are doing so just to see the game fail and the people working on it to be out of a job. I’ll wait to see if this will be resolved tomorrow.

[surreal nova]

Yes. Ya’ll don’t remember red steel 2 or neon white

[pallid shoal]

i've used a brush before, once without any paint on it, so i think i know a thing or two about oil painting

[upper storm]

💯

[proven hazel]

Wont

[versed ridge]

they coulda just used GPT

[compact shore]

They’d be stupid not to

[pallid zinc]

Now we know why it looks so different from the reveal trailer. They didn’t search the internet enough 🤷‍♂️

[austere zodiac]

They must feel so vindicated

[magic rose]

You know that chat in there during the stream is gonna be blowing that shit up about this

[main sorrel]

yeah just use ai that stole art from all of the internet

[tulip dagger]

tomorrows stream will probably be moved again due to this

[prime ravine]

Unironically they only move they can do to save this situation

[pallid shoal]

marathon goin thru it

[austere zodiac]

Chat has been disabled

[weak falcon]

Marathon is cooked

[celest canopy]

I love cel shading in games, but not competitive FPS games. Borderlands is a great example.

[weak falcon]

actually DOA

[near nexus]

vigor salesmen*

[grim fulcrum]

been awhile since I've chatted here, miss this game

[prime ravine]

Im legit happy bc the new D2 team are full of talented people, the old D2 team taking the drama with them has been such a breath of fresh air.

I had to sacrifice Marathon, but so be it

[nocturne gate]

ur right everyone hates valorant /s

[magic rose]

I think it would be a smart way to save face and a very direct and nice way to issue a commitment and apology. Maybe I shouldn’t give billion dollar corporations good ideas, but at least it could be a start.

[versed ridge]

Bungo the content theifs stike again with little to no consequences

[surreal nova]

Definitely. Competitive games should prioritize visual clarity. Cel shading is noisy by design

[celest canopy]

Yea basically just talking about valorant

[stone lance]

🫃

[vernal mountain]

this is so incredibly disheartening

[pallid shoal]

guy doesn't want to take them to court so no one else can do that for him

or her idk?

[rancid pebble]

the van gogh of our lifetime

[prime ravine]

girl but ye

[celest canopy]

Yea the cinematic trailers for this game are proof that the game looks better w/o cel shading

[upper storm]

plot twist: zeigler was unavailable last friday cus cross was blowing up his phone at 3am with "BOSS WE FORGOT TO TAKE OUT ALL THE FUCKING MOODBOARD ASSETS"

[magic rose]

it’s a lady fyi, no sweat probably didn’t know

[ember crater]

GG strive is a masterpiece. If all cell shaded games looked like that Id be in heaven

[nocturne gate]

seriously though, marathon aint cel shaded its useing a threshold shaded lighting model mixed with what looks liek the standard pbr workflow

[near nexus]

thats not the game its a cinematic?

[tulip dagger]

alright bed time, looking forward to the situation when I wake up lol

[upper storm]

that's crazy dude wanna post it again

[rotund galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[magic rose]

dude holy SHIT

[compact shore]

We need more games with the Strive art style, shit is positively impeccable

[magic rose]

The cinematic gonna look different from the game 💀

[nocturne gate]

its alright to not like that style but there aint nothign about it that is "bad for fps games"

[austere zodiac]

https://youtu.be/QlmgoVDrhiQ?feature=shared

[craggy crypt]

BUNGIE DID WHAT?! when did this happen?

[celest canopy]

It’s the same thing essentially. Assign light values in a range and make it all one tone.

[pallid shoal]

i don't think this is the crowd to appreciate the finer points of materials

[brave flame]

marathon is cooked

[vagrant elbow]

This is circling the drain with those with legitimate concern and those wanting to ride the rage bait just for the sake of it. Perhaps a different perspective will be needed.

[prime ravine]

Destiny 2: "Titanfall 3 now in-game"
Marathon: "who the fuck left their pinterest pinboard in the game?"

[undone egret]

guys, what the fuck

[surreal nova]

Db fighterz also looked really good. Fighting games nail this style

[silent olive]

Stole art

[near nexus]

its like expecting halo wars to have in game graphics that match the cutscene quality lmao

[magic rose]

This is exactly where im at lol

[brave flame]

mass dislike the game?

[pallid shoal]

i mean dbfz was the bridge between xrd and strive so

[weary finch]

Damn bungie straight up stole that art

[magic rose]

I’ve been GLAZING Marathon and repping the hype at work and online and with my family and everything and now I just feel a bit gross for it lol

[celest raft]

man

that PlayMA tomorrow is gonna be

FUN

[pallid shoal]

they stole you!

[prime ravine]

mass like, since that dev team does the opposite of what we like

[celest canopy]

Not really there are so many games that use in game footage for trailers. Look at the finals. Graphics so good they use it in the trailers

[nocturne gate]

it really aint, but hey. its toats fine if yah dont like it. art is subjective 👍 just dont think just because u dont like it, that its intrinsically bad for games

[weary finch]

This game is dead on arrival I can’t support a multi billion dollar studio stealing from an artist

[dull zealot]

no? just be vocal about how much this sucks!

[compact shore]

And I don’t mean just cell shading but the way the game is animated too, I know there are docs and tutorials out there on how to do it (along with the entire game’s source code) I hope more devs look to it for inspiration, closest I could think of is ZZZ, which is gachashit but still beautifully animated

[daring stag]

What?

[celest raft]

either they apologize during it for the art theft and get humiliated or they don't mention it at all and everyone drags them across social media, no winning

[prime ravine]

this might have unironically save the game

[near nexus]

nobody plays the finals tho

[magic rose]

I thought GGS was technically a 3D game, yes?

[vagrant elbow]

Seems more repetitive if anything. Being neutral to the matter I’ll wait to see what the devs response will be.

[weary finch]

Bungie straight up stole art from someone called anti real and they have receipts

[strange quartz]

Marathon is cooked af

[magic rose]

Many still do actually

[celest canopy]

Look at the foliage and tell me that looks good

[hybrid ravine]

lolololo

[undone egret]

how does this even happen? I've been vouching for Joseph Cross since the Omolon/Suros days this actually sucks wtf

[flat vortex]

Is this all we chat about

[pallid shoal]

full 3d, only the gameplay is 2d

[ember crater]

I do

[near nexus]

player base on a consistent downwards trajectory

[compact shore]

It is, it’s animated in 3D

[magic rose]

Very interesting indeed

[quiet osprey]

I mean every on take inspiration. On something why everyone are upset ?

[celest raft]

Marathon is so mid I've seen people discuss the game itself in here like 3 times maybe in 3 weeks of being a member

[celest canopy]

lol funny coming from this discord.

[dull zealot]

usually just one bad actor in the art cycle

[strange quartz]

I JUST WANNA PLAY ARC RAIDERS

[calm hazel]

Damn these upcoming videos about Marathon stealing art are probably gonna get more views and attention than the gameplay did lol

[brave flame]

nah we gotta go farther, make them lose a fuck ton of money

[celest raft]

for people glazing this game so hard they sure never have anything to talk about or any clips

[prime ravine]

you're in SekGen thats why

[weary finch]

Cross is straight up following the artist they stole from on Twitter

[vagrant elbow]

Again a change a perspective and or angle would do well for the general sanity of this discourse.

[pallid shoal]

they made a whole movie in the strive engine for the game, it's like 4+ boring hours long

[prime ravine]

Join MIDA

[dull zealot]

well i didn’t know that + i said “usually” …

[nocturne gate]

foliage and externals look unfinished, that cause they probably are. if it release like that with 0 changes to the external enviros then ill toats agree with you. What do you think of the internal environments?

[austere zodiac]

https://x.com/4nt1r34l/status/1923067988871147605?s=46&t=N4ULD7OFD0G-NNFIY7tkYA

[gray depot]

Lol

[ebon heart]

Yo

[calm hazel]

Damn u even got the player test role and saying this. xD

[dull zealot]

okay then vro

[mellow fjord]

yo, I just came to find the people who were talking shit about embark because they use ai for voice acting even tho the voice actors agreed to it and now bungie is literally stealing designs

[olive shale]

bungie actually stole that ladies art, damn

[flat vortex]

who gaf if they steal art, finders keepers

[gray depot]

Good to know where this stuff actually comes from at least

[strange quartz]

Arc Raiders is better then Marathon. Played both and its not even a contest tbh

[weary finch]

Check out jakethealrights latest video he covers the plagiarism

[austere zodiac]

Expected

[celest canopy]

Yea interior looks great, but the exterior is an example of when not to use that style shading.

[near nexus]

i just don't see enough ppl talking about how on its arse pvp is in ARC radiers, rest of the game is fine but gunplay pvp is in the bin, i expect so much more from previous dice devs, they throw a pvp game ontop of a PVE game and it feels clunky

[brave flame]

they will never learn otherwise

[mellow fjord]

those dickriders dude I hate them

[compact shore]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E&pp=ygUbZ3VpbHR5IGdlYXIgYW5pbWF0aW9uIHN0eWxl here’s a good vid on it

[calm hazel]

Yeah, Arc raiders was so much fucken fun.

[split fable]

Can we still get into the Alpha or beta

[magic rose]

Just watched it actually!

[prime ravine]

another ARC Raider AI shill smh

[weary finch]

I played the tech test ARC was straight up the most fun I’ve had in awhile

[thorny pendant]

you're actual trash, just like whoever at bungie stole this art

[strange quartz]

Lol I've never been called AI before but cewl I guess

[prime ravine]

Ok Embark Dev

[gray depot]

I don't think bungie can actually pull this plagiarism out the fire lol

[prime ravine]

Mr John Embark himself

[mellow fjord]

don't fall for it its rage bait

[strange quartz]

Reallll lmaooo

[near nexus]

real lmao

[dark yoke]

Worst part of all this: AR fanboys are gonna be even more insufferable

[celest raft]

PvP felt great to me, corner hugging sucks but that's just the nature of third person games and you can play around it

[flat vortex]

Cope

[nocturne gate]

gamers have the attention span of about a week useually

[mellow fjord]

at least embark is not stealing desgins lol

[prime ravine]

all zero of them

[celest raft]

the guns felt good to me especially when you upgrade them or add mods

Anvil and Renegade especially

[magic rose]

How it feels staring at this bullshit

[brave flame]

id argue worse than the warframe players lmao

[austere zodiac]

ARC was the most fun in a game I’ve had in 10 years.

[ember crater]

I feel like its physically draining me

[dull zealot]

that’s not how it works you non-biodegradable plastic straw

[celest canopy]

That’s the thing I actually really dig the art style. But the shading style (I call it cel shading) looks really bad on exterior environment and on some of the characters, a great example is the death bag that drops. It looks so out of place.

[strange quartz]

I was playing marathon closed alpha, was given a game key for arc raiders and never touched marathon after

[magic rose]

wait did they really

[celest raft]

voices of people they hire, admittedly

[prime ravine]

"but they paid for them wooweewoowee"

[near nexus]

nah gunplay pvp is so dead on its arse its competing with VIGOR right now until it fixes that dogshit pvp

[brave flame]

PLEASE play more games man

[pallid shoal]

it'd be willful denial of reality to say the arc raiders play test wasn't much more happily received than the marathon alpha.

[austere zodiac]

SAMEEEE

[celest raft]

better than not paying for art you lift arguably

[calm hazel]

Only thing I felt that needed changing was slight nerfs to shotguns. As they were fucken brutal

[nocturne gate]

sounds like someone who should try warframe

[median trail]

LOL bungie stole an indie artists art and put it in Marathon

[austere zodiac]

I play everything

[heady wolf]

https://youtu.be/l6QdnV-chZk
vid on it
Jake The Alright

[dark yoke]

Warframe players claiming bungie is greedy then going to a game with 3 day crafting timers you can speed up with premium currency was a laugh

[celest raft]

at least Embarkk tried to compensate their workers

[pallid shoal]

again

[prime ravine]

why did you edit, be bold

[mellow fjord]

What is the argument you're trying to make dude? the voice actors agreed to it and bungie just literally stole desgins? are you okay in the head?

[craggy crypt]

WHAT?!!!!

[austere zodiac]

Original post about the copyright

https://x.com/4nt1r34l/status/1923067988871147605?s=46&t=N4ULD7OFD0G-NNFIY7tkYA

[celest raft]

beHOLD my nuts

[magic rose]

It so dam dumb, arc community gonna use this as leverage to be more of an ass towards everything thinking they are privileged 😂

[prime ravine]

choose a hand

[near nexus]

this guy isnt real, you played forever winter with pvp slapped on top lmao

[final belfry]

you can actually trade for the premium currency tho

[unreal wraith]

Man there's so much time for them to do the right thing between now and "arrival" where is this botty language even coming from.

[median trail]

Yep, even put her logo into marathon, almost unedited

[flat vortex]

unemployed behavior

[austere zodiac]

You have the worst takes of anyone in this server.

[craggy crypt]

THEY DID???

[weary finch]

Dude have you seen the video they straight up stole key art that the entire game is built on

[pastel hedge]

peeta they're stealin from artists again

[magic rose]

Y’all did ARC Raiders use AI voices

[celest raft]

dawg you don't understand how bad it is

[ember crater]

Yeah im honestly here for fireworks as a mostly nuetral party but this is soul sucking lmao

[mellow fjord]

No one company had the consent of the voice actors and the other company just stole it, they are not both bad hello??

[zinc steeple]

They didn't even erase her name

[upper storm]

prime farming and trading went hard when i was unemployed i felt like the wolf of wall street

[celest raft]

we...don't know for sure, very likely

[magic rose]

Fuckin hell

[unreal wraith]

As far as I can tell, the license to this work is available from the artist upon negotiation.

[prime ravine]

All 8 AIs and their alts

[craggy crypt]

bro i knowwwwww 3h ago

[magic rose]

I don’t blame you. Including the arc dude who keeps reposting the same shit thinking it gonna get him somewhere in life

[compact shore]

This is like saying Halo is like Doom with PvP slapped on top

[celest canopy]

Instead of trying to shit on arc raiders how about you say what you enjoy about marathon instead.

[pastel hedge]

You should try Arc when it comes out!

[calm hazel]

Damn that’s like 4x the marathon player count

[near nexus]

lad u r chatting poo u didnt play bf3 and 4 then if u are telling me these are former dice devs, they even admitted its a PVE game that has been slapped with PVE and its CLUNKYYY

[ember crater]

Escape will make me a Discord Mod

[magic rose]

I was so so so so so hype for this

[celest raft]

their original Bluesky post is already at 1m views and the post about it on the Marathon sub has 1.4k upvotes, its not looking good for Bungie especially when their Q&A stream is tomorrow

[mellow fjord]

with a company that steals desgins xd

[magic rose]

Fact 😭 honestly. Can feel boredom from everyone sitting in this chat tho

[prime ravine]

1. Its not ARC
2. Its a better game than ARC
3. Its not made by Embark

[median trail]

Unless bungie publicly apologizes, and compensates the artists I will not support this product

[magic rose]

Literally put 60 hours into the marathon Alpha what the hell man

[brave flame]

i enjoyed how it stole art lmao

[mellow fjord]

dickrider behavior be like

[prime ravine]

If game good, why you here and no play? See? facts are against you

[celest raft]

"guys this game is good because its not x game"

[dull zealot]

that’s fair

[prime ravine]

no hands btw

[compact shore]

Better than ARC is debatable imo

[hollow ermine]

Because the artist is too poor to respond legally, bungie will do NOTHING

[rotund galleon]

Bro is incapable of forming 1 thought

[celest raft]

pull the pants up when you're done please

[pastel hedge]

"they even admitted its a PVE game"

No, the game was very clearly originally going to be a PVE game. They made everyone well aware they were rebuilding as an extraction shooter when they made the decision

[upper storm]

ive literally dared arc raiders shills to do this in reverse and they broke down into puddles of raw genetic matetial

[near nexus]

all the conversations are in here are on sided so i thought i would actually make a good point, i played and enjoyed everything bar pvp u termite

[craggy crypt]

it's not really affecting me personally, it's between them and the artist 🤷‍♂️

[calm hazel]

Bro it’s ok to admit you ain’t have no friends to give you a code.
You don’t have to talk about it like u tried it

[magic rose]

Only thing they can do for this is 2-fold:

Establish and maintain in-house art for all future games moving forward

Hire N2 as an Assistant Art/Design manager, whether contracted or full-time work.

[pallid shoal]

my homies hate x games

[austere zodiac]

Literally 0 supporting facts

[hollow ermine]

When the nerf gun plagiarism AND the seasonal deep cutscene plagiarism happened, they did NOTHING

[prime ravine]

ARC fans be like: My AI Starfield slop is GOOD actually 😠

[near nexus]

so u said exactly what i said..

[celest canopy]

Your face looks like the stolen art from marathon btw

[brave flame]

bro they can do that but people already made up their mind lmao

[celest raft]

is it not lazy though

[nocturne gate]

they... uhh they fired nearly all their in house art.... who would go back?

[pallid shoal]

your

[near nexus]

u don't show urs cause ur munted offf

[austere zodiac]

It’s funny how you have to use a bad game with no relation to try and say something bad about ARC

[calm hazel]

Yeah all distorted for some reason

[celest raft]

and sleazy asf

[pastel hedge]

They'll blame the no-name literal-who outsource studio and give themselves a pat on the back that they're so innocent and absolved of all wrongdoing

[mellow fjord]

I was pretty chill with marathon, but stealing designs and it's buinge we're talking about, if anything this game should be boycotted

[magic rose]

Why are we arguing and insulting each other in here

[karmic pumice]

GET MAD

[median trail]

They literally didnt bother removing the artists LOGO LMFAO

[celest canopy]

I’m pretty blessed tbh

[prime ravine]

Its funny that you arent playing your perfect game. If so good then why no play?

[brave flame]

who doesnt like negativity?

[karmic pumice]

I WANT YOU TO GET MAD

[near nexus]

i have i played tech test 2 u gorm

[upper storm]

welcome to official game discords

[austere zodiac]

I am playing it 😎

[agile mason]

real

[magic rose]

We should be redirecting our frustration towards the product that we (I hope) we looking forward to enjoying.

[pallid shoal]

i'm mad as hell and i'm not going to take it anymore

[unreal wraith]

Also I know the chat here moves fast, but I'm literally trying to start a chant of "Contract Antireal" to help pressure Bungie to cure the situation, I'm not trying to apologize for them at all, just trying to get them to do the right thing for everyone in the situation, and trying to get all of us to see ourselves as a part of how the Good Timeline happens. Reminder: antireal has an awesome track you can pay what you want for, if you don't want to let Bungie control if the artist gets paid for the aesthetic you've enjoyed or not: https://antireal.bandcamp.com/track/null-apophenia

[ember crater]

Marathon stans or Arc stans. Youre both arguing over petty bull.

[magic rose]

CONTRACT ANTIREAL

[pastel hedge]

No, you saying "admitting" makes it sound like they were "found out" and forced to admit something they were otherwise trying to hide, which wasn't the case. Apologies if that's not what you meant.

[magic rose]

Say it louder

[prime ravine]

Lying is more enjoyable than ARC confirmed

[fierce cedar]

Yes, the product is shit and lacks any design integrity

[celest raft]

what if they don't wanna tho

[flat vortex]

Thats what this server is for though

[flat vortex]

ragebait competition

[ember crater]

Im not awake enough for that

[near nexus]

'makes it sound like' exactly so shush, not what i meant, cry?

[unreal wraith]

Come on let's see some Carthago Delenda Est stuff here, why are comments even being made that don't end with CONTRACT ANTIREAL

[strange quartz]

I've had better experiences in arc over all, player interaction was amazing (proxy chat), being knocked out with loot you need for a quest and crawling over to the extract and still being able to make it out.

Looting in a night raid and turning a corner to be face to face with another raider and I put em down with the Silcened burletta.

Looting locked rooms and door stopping it with booby traps for the next team 😈

Trying to avoid ARC in fear of them stomping your team if you make to much noise.

I could go on but arc just has the magic 💫

Marathon is cooked

[dull zealot]

i like both 😔

[compact shore]

Ragebait

[magic rose]

Become awake

[celest canopy]

U need a wash cloth?

[hoary junco]

It would be better if they just remade the original games 😭

[prime ravine]

AI written paragraph

[karmic pumice]

ALL I KNOW IS THAT FIRST, YOU'VE GOT TO GET MAD

[unreal wraith]

I think we call this "getting woke" (by the way, CONTRACT ANTIREAL)

[ember crater]

Shit fine ill drink my monster sheesh

[prime ravine]

Of course it is, people have been buying it for 2 hours now

[zinc steeple]

CONTRACT ANTIREAL

[upper storm]

bruv typed up a love poem just to have it zoom by in a wave of eggplant emojis

[pastel hedge]

What are you talking about? I'm suggesting your wording is creating a false narrative.

[magic rose]

chug it chug it, this is why I have no friends irl 😂

[near nexus]

r u hiding ur chin in some overtly edited picture

[celest raft]

its so ironic to me still how OG Marathon was totally forgotten by most for Doom or System Shock, and now this game will be following in it's footsteps if they keep this up at Bungie HQ.

[brave flame]

I agree, Arc is gonna make the marathon devs basically get cut lmao\

[prime ravine]

Leafyy reference?

[near nexus]

forreal

[strange quartz]

The truth hurts others feelings I guess lol

[celest canopy]

😂 wtf are u talking about that ain’t a person

[pallid shoal]

there's a conflict of interests and they basically can't, it's super unfair all around

[hollow ermine]

Arc machine-learning enemy pathfinding (coughing baby) vs. Marathon art theft (nuclear bomb) lol

[upper storm]

nah i didn't read all that lol

[near nexus]

take me back to the maxmoefoe days when u could actually talk without getting banned by snowflakes:c

[pallid shoal]

ip and copyright law are broken

[celest raft]

does Arc's AI use machine learning/deep learning? I was gonna say it felt like they kind of "communicated" wtih each other actually, at least wasps and hornets and shi

[prime ravine]

ARC so boring devs shut down the server and called it quits 🫡

[near nexus]

so many arse raiders in here its mad

[strange quartz]

It makes me worry for bungie because I love the company, it just is what it is tho lol

[craggy crypt]

"talk" sure buddy lol

[ember crater]

If chugging means people arent your friends then they were never worth your time to begin with

This was thankfully not written by an alcoholic

[near nexus]

more arse raiders than there own server

[celest canopy]

So this is the marathon community

[magic rose]

😭 im saying i kinda was the pusher or the bad influence to doing shit ur not supposed to do

[brave flame]

nah it should just get absorbed into Sony at this point imo

[celest raft]

Arc CANT be the Forever Winter.

Arc RUNS WELL!

[compact shore]

I hope the possibility of a delay and the positive reception of ARC compared to the lukewarm reception Marathon got actually motivate Bungie to try and make the game better, I want Marathon to be as good as ARC if not better, it’s what it deserves

[pastel hedge]

Btw if you think someone is harassing other server members or yourself, you can 👢 react their message for a mod to review them 🙂

[strange quartz]

Yes they do, which makes it even scarier because the more we face off with them, the more they will adapt to us and our play style

[celest raft]

On a sidenote, it sucks that The Forever Winter is so underbaked, even though the devs seem like genuinely fantastic people fr

[near nexus]

still very similar cant lie

[prime ravine]

negative games does wild things to children

[ember crater]

Bro I fully know I'm the devil on the shoulder. I will goad someone into doing something I have no intention of following them into

[celest raft]

they look similar and the PvE is a lot more intense than other extraction shooters, and they're both third person, that's where similarities end tho outside of both being extraction shooters

[magic rose]

Hyping a game this much with a community that half bent backwards. Make it hard to wanna even get the game

[compact shore]

Similar how exactly?

[craggy crypt]

for free? hell nah

[celest raft]

The Forever Winter is nearing 40K levels of grimdark, Arc is just clean post apocalyptic retrofuturism

[magic rose]

Exactly. You get it.
I was the devil or the angel depends on the say of which emotion was taking over but dam. I pushed everyone to the edge

[celest raft]

is TFW good right now?

[hoary junco]

I wonder what they'll say on playma tomorrow

[celest raft]

I tried to try out the demo but I just do not have the horsepower for it

[pastel hedge]

how about for $40?

[near nexus]

to me if they fix the gunplay it can be good, but i spent most my time traversing bc guns were super mushy most the time

[austere zodiac]

“PlayMA has been delayed”

[prime ravine]

im gonna say the cliche "with friends"

[compact shore]

If you have friends that play it maybe, solo is just unenjoyable at all

[hoary junco]

yes

[celest raft]

did you upgrade or mod your guns at all

[craggy crypt]

"oops my bad" 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne gate]

yea what design there is in arc is pretty neat, most of it feels liek delapidated concreet rooms i've seen 1,000 times. Very well executed and built concrete rooms but still more of the same

[celest raft]

not the friendslop

[upper storm]

so what you're saying is Forever Winter has a striking art style and Arc is safe and bland

[celest raft]

the maps themselves are definitely a bit passe, dam especially, Buried City is pretty sick though

[magic rose]

I’m here to destroy ur daily thinking

[near nexus]

i did get a few upgraded guns and they felt a little better but the drop off is absolute insanity for starter weapons