Dimensional Chest

[lilac onyx]

Gives a tiny dimension to build whatever in.
Maybe there could be a custom inventory icon block? So it looks like you’re in a chest idrk

Recipe
X4 Chest
X3 Ender Chest
X1 Cosmilite Ingot
X1 of one of the warp pipes idk which one you pick aurukurel

[wild jay]

as cool of an idea this is, ive avoided pocket dimensions simply because they are impossible to balance for survival pvp servers

[lilac onyx]

Oh true

[wild jay]

ill note the idea though, maybe ill find a way to balance it

using a warp pipe would be cool

[lilac onyx]

Maybe it kicks players out if broken?

[wild jay]

nah i mean someone could hide their entire base and storage system within a single block

thats really hard to balance in a pvp server. base raiding and hunting would be impossible

[lilac onyx]

I’ll try to think of smtn

[iron zephyr]

Maybe it could leave behind an entrance for like aslong as its being used

Sort of like the magic whistle tornado

[wild jay]

not what im worried about

i mean it could be a base contained within one block

[iron zephyr]

Oh true

yeahh im not really sure how to balance that

[plain oar]

Maybe making it that if other people nearby also have the item can enter your dimensions too

[plain oar]

You could make it that you can color them and every red pipe leads in the read dimensions and every blue in the blue and so on

[lilac onyx]

No it’s because someone can hide the chest in a small area

[plain oar]

Yea right

Yea you could hide your base in a chest and no one could find it

Maybe you could make it that the dimension gets reset if put in a chest so you need to carry it at all times

[plain oar]

But that's just weird

Maybe when someone enters the dimension there cords will be leaked in chat or on screen could be a gamrule you can turn of

[lilac onyx]

Ok I got an idea for fixing the issue @wild jay

Just make it so there’s a beam like the end gateways

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I don’t think that ping was necessary now that I think about it sorry

[plain oar]

But what if I just do it at the top of the world

[iron zephyr]

Dimensional chest is a good idea

But like

I really cant think of a way for it to be balanced 😭

Maybe a limit of how much you can build in it

[plain oar]

Maybe all chest lead to the same dimension

[iron zephyr]

Or you cant build at all and only put items and entities in it or smth

[wild jay]

That’s not a bad idea actually

[lilac onyx]

then you might as well build your entire base there

[plain oar]

Yea right

[wanton timber]

Well, admin can just delete craft of this thing...

[opaque oasis]

At first I thought this was dimension wide storage but pocket dimension?

guh

[lilac onyx]

isnt that just a ender chest..?

[opaque oasis]

No it would be an upgrade
Since with any mod that adds chunk loaders you could import/export the loot from farms across dimensions

And anyone could access it

[weary aurora]

maybe some sort of spatial anomaly compass thingy that leads to the nearest chest 🤷‍♂️

[iron zephyr]

What if all pocket dimensions go to the same place and its js like a 100x100 box so multiple people can do stuff in it

[weary aurora]

so a new dimension except that its 100x100?

[iron zephyr]

Yeah sort of

[iron zephyr]

I mean ur not gunna believe this but that is like the entire concept of a pocket dimension

Emphasis on dimension

[weary aurora]

right

[wanton timber]

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[gentle steeple]

Combat log mechanics that disable the portal access while in a fight maybe? Prevents cheese against strong bosses by going in to heal for a second and then coming back out.

Historically I've tried the same idea of a portable base in a dimension with Dimensional Doors but appears that servers can wipe the contents of the dimensions on reload sometimes. Just something to keep in mind.

[deft raven]

Just gonna throw my two cents to this idea since I do like the concept but it needs some work. The original suggested recipe would be quite easy to make many dimensional chests en masse so I'd first suggest this recipe making it tougher and explaining the end-gateway beam.

The recipe would be 4 cosmolite, 2 daemonium, a warp pipe, and more obviously an end chest and beacon.

My concept would be this, instead of right clicking you now need to stand on the chest and crouch to enter it which takes a few seconds instead of being instant.

Chests would be given a unique ID so that chest dimensions don't clash and can be moved while keeping the same dimension space. The only way to leave the chest dimension would be to go back through the warp pipe that you fall from in the ceiling making it quite a bit harder to escape once you enter, making it non-viable for combat.

[iron zephyr]

Okay but i raise you this, elytra

i think it should js be like you cant enter while the game detects you're in pvp or have damaged a player within like a 5 minute time period

Kind of like how public claim servers prevent combat logging with pvp status'

[deft raven]

Elytra doesn't help you get into the chest to start, that has a "windup" period before you can enter

Sort of like how the nether portal functions just minus the annoying swirly effects, instead you're just trying to fit into an opening that you probably shouldn't be able to fit into

[deft raven]

Issue is that's extremely invasive to the player experience. Imagine your friend punching you as a joke and now suddenly you're forced to wait 5 minutes straight to go into your base.

[deft raven]

Also forgot to add a few things onto this, you could possibly drop items into the chest to drop them through the pipe into the chest dimension, break the exit pipe if the chest isn't placed, make the chest only work if exposed to sky, have an emergency exit route that has the same behavior as the end exit portal that brings you to your spawn point (only appears if the chest hasn't been placed for 5 minutes straight, should be in a different area than the default exit pipe so that you can't soft-lock a player inside the dimension by breaking the chest replacing it at the perfect time.), and lastly make it so the exit pipe has a cooldown where when placed it has to build itself back before a player can leave.

[iron zephyr]

Its not supposed to be used as a base

Js a storage area

[deft raven]

My base is just a storage unit when I'm playing modded, no reason not to use the chest unless it was just generally useless because my friend keeps trolling me by hitting me just before the cooldown ends.

I don't see how having it behave similarly to the nether portal is a problem, I never see people complain about nether portals in PvP.

Also your argument is that you could take your chest plate off to replace it with the elytra, which in a PvP situation means you lose your set bonus if you have one, and you lose a ton of armor, a nether portal at least gives you somewhere to go, the chest dimension only allows you to go up meaning you can just be predicted or someone can camp outside the chest waiting for you to leave. On top of that you can't use the elytra immediately because of loading times so leaving it puts you at an immediate disadvantage in combat. Generally my idea would already make it completely useless in combat. The only thing you could do is have a teammate grab the chest so you can return to your spawn if you're low, but that still requires you to be able to escape long enough to enter it and have a teammate break it.

No need to reinvent the wheel when it comes to balance.

[weary aurora]

is it balanced to disable the elytra while in the dimensional chest, also you have to somehow forbid them from building traps

(i just briefly skimmed the texts)

[deft raven]

I mean I guess you could ban the elytra but you could still just use a piston launcher, double jump, etc. I kinda forgot I said a while ago the chest should require access to the sky so you can't really trap it on the outside, just around it. My bad on that part you can't actually trap it.

[iron zephyr]

But thas js you, other ppl actually want to build or have builds in servets yk

Pocket dimensions like take from that, so therefore i think a pvp limit would be the best balance

If u dont want it it could be like config or smth

[deft raven]

Do you think that nether portals are unfair?

[iron zephyr]

No they take a second to enter and you cant conventionally live in it

Lets be real not that many ppl are gunna live in the nether

[deft raven]

The nether has infinite space and renewable resources, the pocket dimension is like a 5x5x5 box

[iron zephyr]

So then atp why would we need a pocket dimension 😭

[deft raven]

Because it acts as a portable storage unit...?

Nether portals don't bring you to the exact same location every time

[iron zephyr]

Shulker box

[deft raven]

I'm just saying that with your points that you've made you're saying that the nether should also have a PvP cooldown

[lilac onyx]

i mean thats what i intended it to be

just a little mini area

for silly goofy builds

[iron zephyr]

I thought u intended it to be a place to build stuff and keep inv

[deft raven]

That's not a storage unit that's a singular portable chest 😭

[lilac onyx]

i mean isnt that what a base is

[iron zephyr]

well i mean youd have to live in it

[lilac onyx]

i mean

if thats bad aurukel can just add intentional game design

wait you wouldnt sleep-

[iron zephyr]

Is a chest not storage

[iron zephyr]

Thats pretty fair

[deft raven]

It's storage not a storage unit as in an irl storage unit you buy and gain a decent space to store stuff.

[iron zephyr]

But yeah the problem aurukel has with it is that he doesnt want it to be a base

[deft raven]

My idea + intentional game design I see no issues anymore

[iron zephyr]

What was ur idea again

[deft raven]

Harder crafting recipe, delay to enter the dimension that can be easily interrupted, has to be able to see the sky like a beacon, unique identifier to allow others to make their own chest dimension as well, uhhh what else, emergency exit opens when the chest is blocked from the sky which brings you to your spawn, and probably a couple other important details that I'm forgetting

I wrote everything down but it's kinda long winded so I don't remember everything off the top of my head

[iron zephyr]

ok so whats the balancing part when u actually have it

cs could u not hide it by making it look like an actual beacon and putting a glass block on top

[deft raven]

Nothing stopping you from investigating it yourself.

[iron zephyr]

igg

i still dk

what stops it from being a base tho is my question

cs aurukel doesnt rlly want that

[opaque oasis]

[deft raven]

Go back and read bro, he said nothing about not liking it being a portable base, just that people could easily hide it in a single block... Which the gateway beam/beacon beam idea solved. That was before I even said anything that he responded to that. I just had the idea to make it cost a beacon.

[iron zephyr]

R u sure...

Doesnt matter tbh at the end of the day the earth will continue to turn 🥹

[deft raven]

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that's not a message link

#1374562421624017008 message

if only you would read the whole thing,,,

[deft raven]

Nope it's OVER the world is ENDING the sun's gonna EXPLODE in 2 minutes

[lilac onyx]

ahem

[lilac onyx]

❤️

[weary aurora]

because its cool 😎

[weary aurora]

I meant inside it

[deft raven]

Ik I was saying there are alternative ways to get out instantly if you're chased