Formula 1

[modern mango]

are we gonna not having 2 peopel sperging this up for 20hours everyday this time

with their dumbass whining

[next spruce]

@novel folio it is now a thread

[novel folio]

Ty

[tiny belfry]

hai

[worthy juniper]

Rb launch at 17:00 CET today

[novel folio]

Where can one watch it?

[worthy juniper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgxplLuex0w

[next spruce]

@somber sandal

[somber sandal]

Thanks!!

[misty cradle]

Basically the show car with a red bull livery zzzz

Expecting the same from every team going forward

[novel folio]

did you expect them to show every innovation on the reveal? 😛

[misty cradle]

I expected something different

Plot Twist, it is the actual RB18 and they're fucked this season

[modern mango]

not sold on the yellow nose

[still schooner]

The only cars that might look a little different are Haas and Mclaren apparently

since they didn't buy a bunch of the showcars

so they will unveil early prototype builds

everyone else is just gonna paint a show car they bought

[still schooner]

Yeah, I dunno how thats gonna work cos isn't Max meant to be running the number 1 in gold?

i feel like thats gonna... clash really fucking bad with a bright yellow nose

[mental vapor]

that aston looks quite different tbh

[still schooner]

Yeah, apparently they didnt just paint the stock car 😮

They bought 3 so they have got stock cars, just obviously decided to roll out a prototype anyway

[somber sandal]

Looks much better with the yellow in place if the pink, sorry BWT. That said, I don't care what it looks like, I just hope it's fast 😅

Wonder what's up with the slots on the side pods

[mental vapor]

maybe they figured how to direct hot air from the engine to the rear wing or smth

theres quite a lot of them there

[still schooner]

Or down into the tunnels?

[mental vapor]

too far deep i guess

it would lessen the pressure

[misty cradle]

Jesus that nose is HIGH

If this somewhat near the final product theyre really pushing for air under the car

[mental vapor]

well

were kinda going back to 2008 fronts xd

[fleet oasis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFbibkBDTtw&ab_channel=McLaren

[bright skiff]

mclaren x roblox

[modern mango]

i love the mcl car

[novel folio]

certainly better then that red bull show car lol

[verbal night]

Yea the front wings will probably all be high just to get as much air as possible to the venturi tunnels.

Before more of the mid body downforce came from under the floor so they needed to channel air lower

Plus the front wing probably gives a fraction of the downforce this year anyways.

[misty cradle]

Just for anyone out of loop this is happening today

[somber sandal]

Thoughts on the AT launch? I don't mind the livery, solid 7/10 for me

[verbal night]

its... bland

needs some more punch

i like the overall design though. it just needs more color

[misty cradle]

yeah I mean its okay

Better than RB and Haas but that's not really hard tbh

[still schooner]

Its not now. They decided to not publicly release the information. Its being filed neatly alongside Ferrari 2019 engine report.

[misty cradle]

It happened tho a couple changes have been made now

https://t.co/JYcN7YRvZ7

[still schooner]

Yeah. Following the investigation into Abu Dhabi, we have decided to have sprint races with more points and less points for races that should have been cancelled.

These are the changes we all were looking for right?

Honestly I feel the points for part races is... fine?I feel like less the 25% distance shouldn't even be considered a race, but I don't hate that change

[somber sandal]

At least there must be racing laps now. No "race" behind the safety car anymore

[still schooner]

Oh I didn't see that clarification. Yeah that's good.

[misty cradle]

Williams livery looks nice

[mental vapor]

too bad another show car on display

didnt even bother with even tiniest cosmetic differences

[misty cradle]

Yeah always gonna irk me but ill give some slack that they ATLEAST have a new livery

Why I praise AM for their reveal

But AM realised the social media market and fans are huge and capitalising on that market

[still schooner]

I like that new livery

Also I think we get real Williams shots today anyway as they are doing a shakedown m

[mental vapor]

going to be quite weird if it turns out

that is their legit car XD

[verbal night]

that would be amusing

"what? i thought we could just put an engine in it and go racing..."

[mental vapor]

turns out its quite a lot different compared to aston

mainly the body of the car is narrow as fuq

[still schooner]

That's a very different concept

[mental vapor]

supposedly this is the ferrari

[misty cradle]

Yeah heard about that leak

although im ngl im just never a fan of ferrari liverys

I guess im a chelsea fan so im not a big fan of red anyways so probably just bias

[fleet oasis]

Actually looks pretty dope

[still schooner]

Wait. Is that fucking hideous winnow logo gone

This is a victory for everyone

[worthy juniper]

they are out of f1

[mental vapor]

especially that shit green logo

it was acceptable when it was white/black

but my god that green version

[modern mango]

https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1494300067490062340

Chris Medland (@ChrisMedlandF1)

The FIA releases a video at the same time as the Ferrari launch, outlining its structural changes to race control:

• Masi out as race director
• Remote race control that will support the race director
• Direct radio comms to race director removed

#F1

Twitter · Feb 17, 2022, 1:17 PM

[misty cradle]

LETS GOOOO masi sacked

Good changes there all round

[misty cradle]

Full statement for anyone interested

[still schooner]

MADLADS DID IT

The wec guy takes no shit

Remember when masi said last year I am not giving them penalty cos in my opinion everyone broke the rules?

This guy will give everyone a fucking penalty

[misty cradle]

as he should

Everyone shouldve just cut corners that way noones get a pen

[plucky garnet]

Make the white lines track limits

[modern mango]

agreed

[verbal night]

easy solution to track limits. install sensors along the middle of the floor at a few points. place sensors in corners where an advantage is to be gained half the width of the cars outside the corner. car passes, race control is alerted. penalty

if they were pushed wide off the corner, it is investigated as such. if they lost control and went wayyy off line and they lost time, no penalty. if they are just doing it to gain an advantage, no warnings you just hit them with a penalty

im sure the fia can work out something sensor wise

or have a camera installed in the middle of the nose looking at the leading edge of the wing and have a line pained half the cars width outside of the corner

if the front of the car is in track limits and the rear isnt then almost certainly its oversteering and they lost time anyways

[woeful kestrel]

https://scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/274085961_164438332605385_2472850053698753971_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_e15_fr_p1080x1080&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=1&_nc_ohc=Wd6VG8wlbNAAX-_MyWZ&edm=AAeKFY8BAAAA&ccb=7-4&oh=00_AT-MqxmgqoLX6nqS0Y5PzZSi3_lKl6lmr0D473xk3A9Mag&oe=621688C4&_nc_sid=c982ba

thank god they went back to silver, looks 100 times better

[wintry fern]

Sexy AF

[woeful kestrel]

https://i.imgur.com/ZnI2s5b.png

different wheel covers compared to other teams

oh this isnt the real car

lmao

its a god damn useless render

[misty cradle]

If this is the alpine car by god that is fucking ugly

[woeful kestrel]

f1 teams need to stop putting pink on their cars

it literally never looks good

[worthy juniper]

incorrect

[earnest relic]

pls not

that looks awful

[misty cradle]

Supposedly it’s a bad photoshop of this

I can believe that tbh

[still schooner]

Yeah that's definitely a bad photoshop

But alpine will have the bwt pink on it.

And to be fair, I think the pink force Indias looked pretty good

[somber sandal]

Pink as a highlight usually sucks. The Force Indias made it work by just going all out with it

[somber sandal]

https://www.racefans.net/2022/02/18/michael-andretti-has-applied-to-enter-a-new-f1-team-says-father-mario/

11th team perhaps?

[verbal night]

that will be awesome

[misty cradle]

https://twitter.com/formularacers_/status/1495055472164053002?s=20&t=Jv4qn_rRht8L0yHNfkoalQ

formularacers (@formularacers_)

🚨 | Official and confirmed: Starting in 2022, F1 drivers will have free tyre choice for race starts.

The Q2 tyre rule is no longer in the sporting regulations.

Likes

436

Twitter · Feb 19, 2022, 3:19 PM

Confirmation of reports earlier this year

[still schooner]

Also they scrapped the 2 race gearbox thing

Now it's just a gearbox pool

I'm guessing it's 11 gearboxes for the season or something and if you go over that you get a 5 place pen

[woeful kestrel]

I thought it wasi masi making an f1 team

[still schooner]

He would turn up with drone driven monster trucks being like "well, if you interpret the regs this way its totally fine"

[mental vapor]

Dont they have like 3 gearboxes total?

And they had to do like 7 races on each or a penalty etc

[still schooner]

I mean

That sounds more likely

I've been watching so long I remember when gearbox had to last 2 races and don't remember there being a big thing about changing it

So I've always remembered it as a gearbox gotta last 2 races but honestly it's probably closer to your number now 😅

[verbal night]

I thought it was 5 or 6 races per gearbox

It was a dumb rule anyways. The gearboxes are so reliable that they never failed on their own. It only became an issue when there was some sort of crash (like at Monaco last year)

Or when Ferrari wanted alonso on the other side of the grid so they cracked the seal on massa's

But any limits on components is just dumb. Let teams do what they want with their cost cap

[somber sandal]

2 days till Barca test!!

[verbal night]

i cant wait to see the teams runn.... oh, wait

[mental vapor]

we'll see how well made these highlights will be

if they'll be like 10 minutes etc then idc rly

[verbal night]

Teams will probably take some footage in the pits and around the track. But I think that's about all we will see.

Maybe a fia camera or two but I wouldn't hold my breath for a lot

Is the media there to do reporting though? If so, that will be the best coverage.

[somber sandal]

That's usually how I follow along, Autosport usually has good live updates.

[verbal night]

same with sky

not their regular reporting but the ted stuff

[somber sandal]

So Alpine is running a full out BWT livery for the first two races this year

[still schooner]

Pink panther returns pog?

[somber sandal]

Very much so

[still schooner]

Ferrari red bull and merc putting in work thos morning

[verbal night]

The RB side pods look fucking hideous

Meanwhile Ferrari looking damn sexy

[somber sandal]

Seb to skip Russian GP (if it still happens)

Also, imagine what it's like at Haas right now

[mental vapor]

imagine steiner

like thay clinged to that razor blade of a sponsorship

and it blows up literally right now

[verbal night]

Saudi Arabia has been engaged in a genocide in Yemen. There is a reason why people called it the human rights triple

There are so many examples of countries engaged in horrific behavior and the fia doesn't give a shit

If anything the fia just raises their hosting fee

[somber sandal]

While I completely agree with your sentiment, you have to admit that the political pressure to drop Russia will be FAR higher.

Not to mention the drivers may force their hand. Verstappen also flatly said they shouldn't be racing there

[verbal night]

Depending on what happens over the coming months I agree.

But the end of September is a long way off.

[still schooner]

Honestly, thats why they haven't cancelled

If it was in March, it would have been. Right now FIA be like... well, Russia probably take what they want within a month, war ends, 6 months later everyone is prboably being all pally with Russia again

And they aren't wrong.

Haas is probably fucked unless they got all the funds frontloaded

[verbal night]

What I'm thinking too. This isn't new for them.

I think the most likely thing to result in a cancellation is if the GPDA say they will refuse to race.

That is easier to do now than later when someone might think twice if they are in WDC contention.

If the majority of drivers sign on to a race boycott that might be enough to force the hand of the fia

[still schooner]

Or sanctions hitting the money they would get

[somber sandal]

🚨 Breaking: Haas will remove Uralkali branding and run in a plain white livery for the final day of #F1Testing in Barcelona 🚨 https://t.co/YqVBhhDy6P

[verbal night]

How brave

[mental vapor]

would be even braver

if they changed the red to yellow

[fading wren]

the plain white livery looks better

[still schooner]

Russian gp canceled

Actually official wording is Russia has been stripped of its right to host

[timber viper]

[verbal night]

He isn't wrong

[earnest relic]

I am actually surprised they cancelled it

[still schooner]

All the teams went to a meeting last night

I'm pretty sure they said either cancel it, or we are announcing we boycott it

[somber sandal]

I just heard this for the first time today, and it made me smile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzTlp8Z5gc4

[still schooner]

I feel bad that I hadn't seen that before

That is a fucking masterpiece

[earnest relic]

What a short F1 “career” for mazepin

[mental vapor]

At least he got to taste the new machinery kekw

[somber sandal]

Fittipaldi is driving for them this year then?

[still schooner]

There's lots of Jesus rumours too

Also daruvala and potentionally piastri but I dont see piastri, even though its who I'd most like to see there.

[modern mango]

piastris management already said no

[still schooner]

Yeah rumours are persisting but I don't see how it's doable really because alpine won't tear up the contract, at which point your taking a rookie, albeit a talented one, for no real upside.

Daruvala seems very, very plausible. He doesn't have mazepin money but his got a bit plus the Indian Market is massive to exploit

[mental vapor]

suprised they actually said no

i get it that haas wount probably a dream machine but still better than playing gran turismo at alpine headquarters all day

[still schooner]

....

They are putting a sausage kerb

At the entrance to eau rouge

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/t7jmjd/spa_will_add_a_sausage_kerb_before_eau_rouge/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[mental vapor]

doesnt that sound like a recipe for disaster?

i mean you go flat out in the in a ground effect car

touch it even a little and what

you upset ur aero massively at 280kph when trying to turn right wtf

[verbal night]

Yea cars are going to fly

Remove all sausages and add in gravel traps

[true elk]

first time F1 viewer this season. do you guys watch the international or the Pit lane mode? idk what commentators are best and/or what gives the best experience

[modern mango]

Personally i like the sky commentary

[verbal night]

Yea sky for english

[true elk]

thats the regular international one with david croft right?

[verbal night]

Yea

[somber sandal]

Welcome 🙂

[still schooner]

Much as sky gets shit on, it's pretty good especially for a new viewer. Crofty asking dumb questions for some else to explain isn't as tedious when you don't actually know the answer yourself

[verbal night]

Yup. And Ted is great

[somber sandal]

Oh shit, Kmag is back!!

[mental vapor]

yeop

wasnt a huge fan of him

but a dog without legs is better than mazepin

[woeful kestrel]

https://i.redd.it/9424noahjem81.jpg

[mental vapor]

Jesus fuck that Mercedes

[still schooner]

And protest threats already XD

[mental vapor]

kinda would see why

but tbh i dont see the reason to deem it illegal

ofc im an expert in the matter xDD

[still schooner]

from what i've read

[mental vapor]

but they do have that safety beam in the right place

[still schooner]

Merc already showed the FIA

[mental vapor]

they just chucked the rest in the bin

[still schooner]

Horner was so fast to say that illegal

I'm 99% sure Red Bull wanted to do it and couldnt

[mental vapor]

i think the point was that they have to have 2 of these side impact parts

and i think they are at war over the lower one

[still schooner]

Yeah its because its like, a wing and not a sideboard

pod*

I think whats in thier favour is that when the FIA ran it through CFD, it didnt add any extra dirty air

[mental vapor]

welp

looking at totally legit times from the morning

1,8 slower than leclerc on same tyre xd

[true elk]

Mercedes seems to be the ones struggling most with porpoising from the session i saw earlier. sparks flying everywhere

[misty cradle]

"Violates the spirit of the regulations" what did I just read

[mental vapor]

oh just someone tell horner to shut the fuck up and go to work

i won't stand horner and wolff bitching about all season long

[misty cradle]

The season hasnt even started yet 😭

[modern mango]

u realize

they only do this shit publicly

so u talk about it

and if u dont talk about it

it goes away

[true elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmlbg_3AzSw

[still schooner]

Its because theres been changes now to how stuff is done

Basically, if 8 out of 10 teams vote in favour, they can just ban stuff thats legal mid season

Spirit of the Regulations is basically double talk, but its basically the avenue Red Bull will take to try and get other teams to vote to ban it

I think the issue with that argument will be that the FIA have already run the CFD for it and found it doesn't generate any extra dirty air. And since the main spirit of the regulations was "Get rid of dirty air" its probably fine.

[verbal night]

They just need to bri g back active suspension already

But I doubt they will because it will just cut a huge amount of lap time.

[mental vapor]

god that merc just right now

even worse that on the vid

[true elk]

Mercedes spending too much time on removing the sidepods they gonna be bumping around all season

[verbal night]

A lot of the work done last test in removing it will have to be redone this time

[mental vapor]

wouldnt be suprised if they thought

going overboard with these sidepods

would stabilize the car or smth

[true elk]

it's nothing to do with stability does it? it's too much suction?

[verbal night]

This is typical Merc though. Design a car that is on the ragged edge of what is drivable and then spend 2 months trying to get a handle on the setup.

[true elk]

has to be floor changes?

[verbal night]

It's caused by too much downforce

So they need to tune the suspension more or reduce the downforce

[true elk]

would suspension help it outside bumps tho? it happens when you get too much downforce at high speeds

car gets sucked down

[verbal night]

It's interesting. Most cars were bouncing from the rear. The Merc looks like it's the whole damn car

[mental vapor]

the suspesions could even out the bounce

the active one i mean

[true elk]

oh yeah thats true. but it would still hit the ground at times no? just less bouncing

[mental vapor]

basically it would tighten up when going down

so in absolute ideal conditions

the car would be at the exact same level all the time

[verbal night]

It always happens. It has happened for years. It was just less noticable.

Last season 40-45% of downforce came from the floor. This season it's more like 85%

[mental vapor]

wasnt that supposed to be as before

40/20/40

and now

20/60/20

front/floor/rear

[true elk]

i think the cars are way lower to the ground this season?

not too sure about that one tho

[mental vapor]

they want to seal the sides

as much as possible

so yea

[verbal night]

I think the ride height is the same under load

[mental vapor]

they try to get lower to make the effect stronger

[verbal night]

But there are no more high rake cars

So before they would look higher

The front wings are for sure higher this season. That's in the rules

[still schooner]

Yeah, the bouncing is way more pronounced just due to the extreme advantage gained being lower to the floor

Haas just casually 7 seconds off the pace

[verbal night]

Why put the money into 2022 when they are waiting for 2024

[bright skiff]

I guess this is now the permanent replacement of what used to be the formula1 channel on this discord?

[modern mango]

YES

[plucky garnet]

might go back to being real channel when its the season

only azor knows

[bright skiff]

I personally don't mind either, but I just notice it's not as active as it used to be last season

now that might also change when the season starts ofc

I bought F1TV earlier today and tried out some of that RaceControl goodness

that's a lifechanger tbh

[verbal night]

I really don't like this being in a thread. Makes sense during the off season though.

It's just a pain to navigate to especially on mobile.

[fading wren]

Agree threads suck

[mental vapor]

yeee

i'm kinda for getting back our independence and make f1 a great channel again xd

[modern mango]

theres no functional difference

[verbal night]

Different means of navigating there especially on mobile

[bright skiff]

@worthy juniper what do you think?

[worthy juniper]

I dont understand what's worse about this compared to a channel?

On my phone it appears just like a channel

android

[modern mango]

its a bit hidden on iphone

[plucky garnet]

people would see it when it is the season i dont think many people check the threads of channels

[still schooner]

I prefer the channel but personally it's very minor. I'm only here for the f1 now anyway since I quit wow so it's just the default tab for me

And it's off season, it's always gonna be quiet. Most people arent sad bastards watching old Mika vs The Michael reruns during the off season

[somber sandal]

Literally no difference for me on Android, it just shows up as a sub-channel of the Trueshotlodge channel

[bright skiff]

main difference being that you only see this thread if you've participated in it before

[still schooner]

Unless you look for it

All the threads can been seen regardless of if you used it before, its just that if you haven't you don't see it unless you go into the threads section, which most people probably don't do

[plucky garnet]

im just saying channel during season / thread off but its up to azor

[true elk]

Watching Drive to Survive season 4, and i gotta say. Mazepin seems like a very likeable person

[plucky garnet]

i feel like mazepin would actually be a better person if he stayed in the sport a few more years

because they force him to act a certain way

[worthy juniper]

wouldn't make him a better person, just a more PR trained person

[mental vapor]

i like the daddy

when his son wasnt able to drive straight

he just made threats of withdrawing xd

overall i liked this season

a few obvious fuckups but still

enjoyable to watch

[somber sandal]

Speaking of Haas, they nicked the fastest time for the day at the end, lol. Probably just a glory run, but still fun to see.

[verbal night]

I'm going to miss mazepin watch on those boring races

How slow he is was endlessly amusing.

[true elk]

it's the car

[still schooner]

Right. Any time a race got a bit dull you could always get some entertainment out of, how many seconds a lap is mazepin currently losing.

[timber viper]

I jus realised somethin, its RAWEEEE CEEEEEEK

[mental vapor]

yissss

[still schooner]

Oh fuck it is lol

[timber viper]

[still schooner]

Please don't let the ferrari end up being shit

I literally don't care if Charles and Carlos do their best 2014 Lewis and Nico impression.

Ideally we get a mclaren vs ferrari fight but I'm kind of worried that mclaren is gonna be... like the old mclarens

Really fast but fall apart in a gentle breeze

[earnest relic]

I just want to see vettel do better than last year tbh

[verbal night]

I want to see the Ferrari as much as possible. It's so damn sexy

[icy ferry]

FINALLY

[mental vapor]

i just want all of them

jumping ahead of each other all the time

[verbal night]

If Ferrari are put in a position to win I would feed terrible for sainz. Imo he is just as good as leclerc but you just know Ferrari will make sainz hand him points

[still schooner]

Honestly, its why theres part of me that wouldn't actually mind if Ferrari were Merc 2014 good

just because Ferrari could be like "yeah fuck it just race boys"

I think in a championship car, Leclerc will beat Sainz over the season because he won't lose points due to going YOLO I TRY PODIUM/WIN

But yeah, it will suck if Ferrari end up just hard shafting Sainz

[verbal night]

Yea I agree over a season leclerc would win

[true elk]

man that toto comment from DTS episode 9

"Do you drink? do you drink during the day? you do"

[true elk]

Just need Dennis Hauger to win F2 this year and see him in F1 later. Norwegian driver

[misty cradle]

Just when you thought the drama around the final race was dying down now its gonna rekindle

[mental vapor]

its about time when they said they'll release the findings xd

[verbal night]

Again, the most obvious thing in the world

And any=all in legal writing

[misty cradle]

Yeah theyve changed it now to All

[verbal night]

Legal writing is always written more passively.

Like, in my will it says "any assets" not "all assets"

[misty cradle]

But yeah this although a very good thing means were 100000% gonna see more uproar from their admission of guilt there

[verbal night]

And horner going apeshit trying to justify the last race as being legitimate

I wonder how they are going to clarify that the SC comes in the following lap after cars are unlapped

Because that was pretty fucking clear in the rules

[misty cradle]

I fully expect this report to be "We fucked up"

[verbal night]

Well, time to wrap it up boys. Looks like max gets an "*" beside his name in the history books. Congrats lewis on #8

Good luck on #9

Max, hopefully you get yours one day

[misty cradle]

think for fan sake ill just ignore that race ever existed when i rewatch the season

[verbal night]

Just start the season at spa and then stop it there too best race if all time

[misty cradle]

[verbal night]

Coincidentally another masi fuck up

That they also admitted was a fuck up with chances made like a month ago

[misty cradle]

Cant wait for no major changes friday

and we just blame jeff instead

[verbal night]

*changes

I love that the fia needed to clarify that there needs to be at least a green lap for something to count as a race

Because otherwise it's a damn parade

[still schooner]

Theres no admission, and there won't be one

they will change rules to make sure there can't be any... unconventional interpretations in future

but the line will remain that, and not change. Everything Masi did was... non-standard, controversional, a break from what we would normally expect, but still technically within the rules

And whilst you can draw all sorts of conclusions from the changes, ultimately, the line aint changing and the result isn't changing either

Tbh, I'd be totally past it if it wasn't for fucking Horner mentioning it every 5 minutes

[misty cradle]

The rule just literally is that

the rule has changed

[verbal night]

It's implied. They will never be explicit

They will say it was in a grey area then or some bullshit that everyone knows is bullshit.

[misty cradle]

Its not

it's literally changed

page 54/101 of the sporting regulations

[verbal night]

i know. you know. everyone knows. they will still never admit it if asked

[misty cradle]

Publically in a statement probably not

But this is just a lesser form of it

[still schooner]

Thats just a rule change. Essentially using that logic, everyone had illegal cars last year because they changed the rules on cars for this year

[tiny belfry]

did the famous "ITS NOT SO RIGHT" get booted this season?

[verbal night]

The fia said it's their intention to limit communication more (they say). There is also no more fia radio so we will never know.

The issue is that masi was a bitch. The two new race directors and the assistant race director this season have an actual track record and know what they are doing.

Masi should have never had the job in the first place

[fleet oasis]

Inb4 people bitch and moan again when the new directors fuck up

[verbal night]

I don't anticipate the same issues. These guys have a known and very established track record.

[fleet oasis]

We'll see

[misty cradle]

Nah cause that logic doesnt stand when you add the context to the situation

The context alongside the rule change it what makes it stick

[still schooner]

I mean, people will bitch about the ex WEC guy

Because he will punish their favourite driver

Because they broke the rules

The DTM guy I dunno exactly. His got experience but DTM is a fucning shitshow because its DTM and its rules are a bit of a shit show.

Like honestly. Abu Dhabi shitshow aside. They are making rules changes in safety cars and driver uniforms

But nothing about making fucking clear what is and isn't allowed on the track. Which honestly is the biggest fucking issue

Like I have a personal preference in how much aggression I prefer. But if they want to sit there and say every move max does is fine and they won't punish I don't have an issue with that if they clearly say that it's fine and then everyone can drive like that wheel to wheel.

The issue is the complete fucking mystery that means we all sit here going that can't be right or this can be right and we all making it up because really what is and isn't allowed is a fucking enigma dictated by the whim of whoever is the race director and stewards for the weekend.

[verbal night]

imo we will never find out about that. it will be in private drivers and team briefings.

because those arent strictly in the rules and largely are determined by precedent they just need to clarify the precedent they will be using. but ultimately the drivers will still push and its up to the race directors and stewards to be consistent with their application of them

[misty cradle]

Not to derail but I like this

Back on topic tho

[still schooner]

But that's wrong. We need to know what the rules are. When you want football, you know how far players are allowed to go in a tackle. Yes, players/drivers will always push those rules, but the actual code is public.

[misty cradle]

Eh as a football fan its not really clear

they still fuck it up from rules

[still schooner]

Its mostly clear. It varies a bit between competions on how much context is allowed.

[misty cradle]

Personally it aint

people get sent of for shit and then the cards recinded all the time

[still schooner]

And sometimes refs decide not to enforce anything and it goes to shit

[misty cradle]

were pleading for clarity in football

clarify what the boundaries are

Specifically for offside

thats ripe atm

[still schooner]

I mean. Studs up = no. Two foot = no

[misty cradle]

Nope lol

Still no idea

[still schooner]

Its not enforced well

[misty cradle]

Look up keita on chalobah

[still schooner]

But that's a separate matter. There's at least clarity on what should be fucking enforced

[misty cradle]

Problem is there isnt tho

Its "endangering an opponent"

Very clear 🙂

[still schooner]

If you don't even have a standard to start with how can you expect clarity

Or consistency

[misty cradle]

I agree with you just football was a bad example

tbh cricket is a solid one

[icy ferry]

fucking hell Vettel mate ☣️

[somber sandal]

Dammit 😔

[earnest relic]

bruh

[true elk]

Hulkenberg P1
Magnussen P2

[icy ferry]

Hulk probably DNF first lap considering brand new cars and he has zero laps in it compared to everyone else on the grid already 300 bahrain laps ahead

[true elk]

no

P1

[somber sandal]

P4. Hulk doesn't get podiums.

[verbal night]

^

[misty cradle]

Missed this but bright side is Ricciardo will be racing

[icy ferry]

🇦🇺 good luck Ric. No idea what to think of the McLaren car atm

[plucky garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5VCm-YxrKQ

[verbal night]

And it begins

https://wtf1.com/post/f1s-new-race-director-delivers-no-nonsense-track-limits-for-bahrain/

[woeful kestrel]

good

now the chances HAM wins bahrain goes down drastically

[icy ferry]

never doubt Hamilton

[woeful kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtjcSYJ6r0o

[fleet oasis]

😂

[worthy juniper]

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