yea
#Diablo 4
worthy edge
more ascendancy changes is my guess, hopefully some more melee buffs or a bonezone nerf cause it's GGG - and yeah hopefully a better league mechanic that's more interactable than this Crucible shit
covert copper
just make something fun
We dont need over complicated shit
just make a "go here kill shit get loot"
worthy edge
might also be a huge change where we'll get a new Atlas villian
covert copper
Just play it safe until poe 2
worthy edge
Forbidden Sanctum was sooooooo damn good
worthy edge
only wish they made the amount of rooms needed was a bit less
had to farm like 10 maps / floor 
covert copper
sheesh
covert copper
@worthy edgei might go melee next league tbh
Start out as some meta cuck to farm currency then go full into melee
worthy edge
playing trade 
sturdy viper
Ahh PoE2 better known as poe just more complete with no differences 
worthy edge
atleast 2 new weapon classes 
and possible changes to all weapon classes
inner moat
Ahh PoE2 better known as poe just more complete with no differences <:maan:86131...
7 acts, double the ascendancies, core systems fully reworked, loads of new skills, new weapon types, endgame expansion... Yeah no differences xd
Enjoy level 70-100 of doing the same thing and getting weaker
covert copper
Enjoy level 70-100 of doing the same thing and getting weaker
i hope Blizzard make something big in s1
and go all in
make s2 less important and go ham in s1
ornate quarry
we'll know next week
what they do
i don't expect too much
i hope it's a fun mechanic
that adds more depth to nm dungeons
what i like is that d4 community is really pumping out a lot of builds every week
pastel flicker
i dont see why so many shitposters on the interent think arpgs need trading as an end game activity
ornate quarry
trading is sfine if it's properly kept in control
poe's trading is a bit too much and needs a rework
covert copper
i dont see why so many shitposters on the interent think arpgs need trading as a...
well an endgame is needed for these genres , after you finish story its basicly "Well im done bye!"
ornate quarry
majority of arpg players never see the end game
pastel flicker
well an endgame is needed for these genres , after you finish story its basicly ...
What end game exists in arpgs aside from farming the same shit for %2 dps gain
covert copper
why play it?
ornate quarry
poe had the issue for long that they had to add more and more fun elements because the game wasn't growing due to the fact that the end game was too challenging
pastel flicker
That's like the whole point
covert copper
What end game exists in arpgs aside from farming the same shit for %2 dps gain
well.. the genre has evolved a lot since poe
pastel flicker
Give an example
covert copper
and we are spoiled from that insanely well made end game
ornate quarry
I don't think the poe end game is that great
covert copper
Bossing for example, target farming gear
Mapping/Rifting/bla bla - > Farm currencies to do X and Y thing
Delving (Farming the delve mechanic)
ornate quarry
it shits over d4 currently but it's still a convuluted mess at best
covert copper
etc etc
Poe is a pain in the F ass if u wanna get into it
hopefully poe 2 fixes that
ornate quarry
i don't think poe 2.0 will fix much
i don't see them ditching half their content because then they would put themselves in direct line of sight with d4
and its obvious the two of them are actively trying to avoid that to protect their respective niches
poe's : complicated niche
d4's : ease to play niche
I think the future for arpgs has never been better though
covert copper
@pastel flicker D4's chance atm rely on a good endgame now in s1
ornate quarry
i don't think d4 is worried
I really don't think they are
POE should be more worried, poe 2.0 needs to live up to the hype because their player base really likes to punish them hard when they fuck up
ornate quarry
diablo players
are not demanding
at all
d3 had 150k players each season and the only thing you did was spam the same content 24/7
I think d4 seasons will be fine, i think we can expect a big seasonal mechanic
at least if the statement is true that they started developping season 1-4 back when the open beta came out
covert copper
I dont care if ur diablo,poe,last epoch or d2 player, why would u wanna settle for no enddgame
its like saying
"wow needs no raids"
ornate quarry
nobody is you monkey
but d4 playerbase is vastly different
than poe's
a lot of players play diablo over poe because they like the fact that it's just log in and smash monsters
same reason why a lot of poe players chose poe over d4 because it's more than just smashing monsters
covert copper
so why not put effort into an endgame about smashing shit up
pastel flicker
<@204500540992782356> D4's chance atm rely on a good endgame now in s1
All thr examples you gave are just the same thing tho
Repeating content for gear
covert copper
All thr examples you gave are just the same thing tho
Yes but u do it differently
Like acting compared to end game in poe is 2 differetn games
would u rather have just do same dungeon u do at lvl 10 and then at lvl 100
or would u want an endgame that makes farming that gear more fun
u could use same argument inwow
why raid when u farm same gear in m+
pastel flicker
How
covert copper
Vault
U get what I mean?
Diablo 4 could be insanely good once the endgame comes out
it has a great foundation
pastel flicker
or would u want an endgame that makes farming that gear more fun
I gotta be honest with u dabbi i dont really care what kind of enemies or the background of the dungeons like
at end game of these games you are moving around super fast killing everything
inner moat
I just wanna zoom and make epileptics have a fit when I go past
covert copper
at end game of these games you are moving around super fast killing everything
@pastel flickerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Vft2WF0RA
when can i play this in d4
Actually degenerate playsytyle
ornate quarry
only took them 12 years
tbh I don't think diablo has ever had this many devs
d3 at it's peak had 12 devs
and then they also used the d3 money to fund overwatch
then the d3 ros and necro pack was sent to activision for cod franchises
queen raptor
Hika is a blizz hierarchy researcher
He can tell you how many devs were taking a shit on 9th of july, 2008, 10:24, before wotlk release
worthy edge
he probably can, he got the connections 
ornate quarry
He can tell you how many devs were taking a shit on 9th of july, 2008, 10:24, be...
It's based on what they said themselves
unique orchid
Share the source
I have a source for this: in the time period between the release of Diablo III and Reaper of Souls, the team consisted of 400 individuals.
unique orchid
Yes hika, I'm sure there was 388 supporting staff
ornate quarry
Not talking out of my ass
just taking a while to filter through news since 2012
yes at the start it was huge
we allknow that
but ros onwards it was not
because blizzard works with moving devs
between projects
the actual d3 team
that designed the game pre ros
then a bunch of them (it does not specify how many) were sent to wow and overwatch teams
unique orchid
Not true, as I just linked above, it was over 400 man team
unique orchid
Yes who are the ones doing diablo 3 at the time
ornate quarry
400 people my ass
it might have been 400 leading up to d3 launch
and especially when they were struggling to fix the servers
ornate quarry
both of our sources are speculative at best
unique orchid
No they're not
ornate quarry
you base yourself on a fan website
unique orchid
No??
unique orchid
Now go read where it's from
ornate quarry
yeah kotaku
unique orchid
it's from the fucking game director
It's not "speculative"
Even just the D3 team responsible for porting to consoles was more than 12 people alone, they were 25
Like please just don't spew random shit 
ornate quarry
im trying to find your exact words of 400 in the article
the only thing i can see is that he compared it to a previous team of 400
Although his squad had expanded from three to around 25, it was still a drastic departure from his days at Ubisoft, where he’d had to help coordinate a team of 400 — something people. Even when Wilson and other leaders at Blizzard encouraged him to apply for the director position, Mosqueira was reluctant.
the wiki then states: In the time period between the release of Diablo III and Reaper of Souls, the team consisted of 400 individuals.[4]
there's nowhere in the article a reference to 400 people on the project
unique orchid
So let's say it's referencing the ubisoft team, how do you explain the 12 devs to him running a team of 25 solely for porting to console
additionally
https://www.gameinformer.com/blizzcon-2018/2018/11/08/our-full-blizzcon-interview-with-blizzard-co-founder-allen-adham
We have five public-facing teams: Overwatch, Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm, Diablo, and World of Warcraft.
Each one of those teams is between a hundred and three-hundred people.
Yeah I'm sure they were 12 people
Hika can't you see how dumb of a statement that is
ornate quarry
That's why I meant, the size of the team seems to be completely speculative, nobody has a definite number of how many people were on the team
i remember nevalistis the spokesperson of the devs saying on one of the d3 twitch vods that run a small and close team
unique orchid
Sure buddy
covert copper
ornate quarry
So maybe I'm right, maye I'm wrong, maybe my numbers were off, but this is what i recollect at it, because I also remember quin and rhykker having a conversation about it and why the game was going downhill in the beginning. I remember and this is factual that after ros and the cancellation of the other expansion many key devs of d3 were moved to wow and overwatch, yang being one of them.
steep kestrel
Holy shit you're dumb to listen to Hika.
So now we're believing what fucking QUIN thinks
covert copper
ornate quarry
Don't care about you though
Why don't you go bully some more people on mmo champion
steep kestrel
Why would I, plenty of people right at my doorstep
ornate quarry
yeah you gotta feel big somehow (other than you're fat)
steep kestrel
No wonder people think you're cooked when you spew conspiracy theories like this as if they're facts
steep kestrel
Hey I might be fat but at least I don't gotta lie to feel important 
ornate quarry
I don't care about feeling important
ornate quarry
If i cared about feeling important I wouldn't be doing it on a discord channel lmao
sacred ruin
steep kestrel
No you'd go out and do stuff in life, yet here you are, with every single other one of us losers. Enjoy your stay, stop spewing fucking bullshit lad
ornate quarry
I never looked at any of you as losers
steep kestrel
ornate quarry
and I never stated that I did
steep kestrel
Ok Mr boasts a lot
ornate quarry
boasting doesn't mean that i consider anyone as less
steep kestrel
covert copper
worthy edge
Hey I might be fat but at least I don't gotta lie to feel important <:EZ:4493337...
based
covert copper
Very based
ornate quarry
And in fact, I'm envious of people that have a much less complex life and are happy, because guess what I am not happy in the life I was born into, that's all
steep kestrel
Yes yes, woe is you, the suffering will never end
Holy shit you're so fucking terrible to listen to, I'm happy you're usually contained to channels I'm not in
I would not have a resting moment telling you off
Shouldn't you find a discord with like minded people instead of lurking here when you haven't actually played the game the discord is for in ages. I'm sure theres dedicated servers to your main games 🙂
On topic, range sorc owns 
What even is a frost nova
restive light
i kinda felt sorc to feel pretty lacking to what i witnessed druids/barbs doing
steep kestrel
It baffles me every fucking build that goes frost shard relies on going in melee with nova, they don't have the defences for it
restive light
felt so squishy outside of cds damage for clearing dungeons was sick but not really significantly better htan good barb builds anyways
covert copper
I havent played d4 in awhile
steep kestrel
Range one is great for survivability and I don't think my damage is worse Blake
It's when they wanna teleport in and nova
That shit gets dicey
ornate quarry
necro minions are fine, ghazzy nearly (or did kill) uber lilith with it
shell shale
Minion cuck 
steep kestrel
I only do that for suppressors
restive light
hoinestly have no idea what ranged one is or what ur talking about
covert copper
Minion cuck <a:Classic:1036619329510326292>
Minion brrrrr
restive light
maybe some new build that is sick that wasnt being played when iw as playing
steep kestrel
The clip I linked above
Look at how I do my DMG
It's not a great clip tbf cos not huge density but it gets the idea across
Good boss DMG too
Just freeze everything from range so it can't touch me
And it explodes
covert copper
Draco whats the good chad dudu builds arm
steep kestrel
Dunno, I chose sorc
Nova is basically there for my teleporting into suppressor packs cos can't do them from range
Or if a melee mob gets too close to me
covert copper
I got bored of bone spear so i kinda quit
worthy edge
I'm really liking the Lightning Storm druid, although it's human form and not that garbo Werewolf form, mostly also due to me not being able to find the Werewolf Storm +2 unique helmet
ornate quarry
dudu all needs tempest roar
steep kestrel
Instead of being my main offensive tool
restive light
cant really review it without having played it was never a fan of builds in poe that's defense was killing enemies before they hit u though so i doubt that build would really solve my issues with sorc
covert copper
I'm really liking the Lightning Storm druid, although it's human form and not th...
Can u share it ?
ornate quarry
im building lightning shred dudu port build
worthy edge
aye gimmie a sec
steep kestrel
It freezes the entire screen Blake, that's the defense
ornate quarry
doesn't it apply vuln
steep kestrel
That it does too
restive light
but the other build also freezes the screen and thats not enough at times
steep kestrel
I shoot shit with my ice shards, due to frostburn and skills I have 40% chance to freeze. When something freezes, my affix has a 50% chance to spread the cc to all nearby enemies. When an enemy freezes, they get an auto shard shot at them. When they die, they explode in frost novas which re freeze them, and fire more auto shards and do vuln
The other build for some reason only uses nova for freezing, idk why
No one picks frostburn or cold snap
It baffles me
It's such good cc
Means I also just stagger bosses like a madman
Cos of the constant freeze procs from shards
That said
Sorc deffo is down bad on defensives
But I do think people are making it worse by playing melee over ranged
steep kestrel
Resistances doing nothing and half our defensive nodes being resist and our mainstat being int sucks
Gz
ornate quarry
thunderdog what build is that
ornate quarry
o lightning storm
yea there's many other things
lightning shred, lightning storm, lightning claw
druid has a lot of special builds
restive light
Resistances doing nothing and half our defensive nodes being resist and our main...
yeah if resists actually mattered maybe sorc wouldnt be quite as bad
i mean what can i expect from the archetype of sorc, like in poe the equivalent of witch can manage to get quite tanky, but still
i was still happy enough with what i played, probs wont play sorc again until i do a season of barb/rogue/druid but it felt good for sure
neat hedge
Yeah tornado
worthy edge
neat hedge
Highest dmg but highest requirement out of all gear
worthy edge
this is how my build looks like
neat hedge
Cocaïne bear is fast farmer but we can go better
restive light
ill probs do druid as of now, seemed pretty fun when pulverize was the main thing and then these tornado or lightning builds or w/e the fuck ppl are doing look cool too
worthy edge
lightning build is so damn comfortable
restive light
one thing is guaranteed and that is on all things holy u will not catch me on a necromancer
💀
worthy edge
quite easy to CC bosses, root and slows on elites
restive light
as long as i turn into a cat or dog its good enough for me
restive light
if i wanted to be a human i would play a not druid
ornate quarry
im missing one aspect to change to it
worthy edge
graceful ocean
one thing is guaranteed and that is on all things holy u will not catch me on a ...
oh real? bone spear looks neat
ornate quarry
bit too neat
restive light
arpgs are not fun when u feel like ur runnin through mud
ornate quarry
i hate that lightning storm affix
worthy edge
lightning storm and that giant boulder chasing you are so damn annoying
neat hedge
ill probs do druid as of now, seemed pretty fun when pulverize was the main thin...
Also it's fucking immortal
Permanent unstoppable
Cc and heal galore
worthy edge
meta cucks
do you guys know at what lvl you can start buying sacred gear with obols?
is it 53 or is it 55 or something?
restive light
is it not torment based
neat hedge
I can't buy ancestral at 75
worthy edge
and there's no good answer on reddit either 
I remember being able to buy sacred items before I went into T4 on my druid atleast
but 
ornate quarry
wasn't it tied to the keystone dungeon
inner moat
Damn, thats a Draco proc and a half
covert copper
I love draco
queen raptor
Shouldn't you find a discord with like minded people instead of lurking here whe...
Bro what? Half of the discord hasnt played wow in years
Cant believe i missed the hika x draco fight
spiral merlin
neat hedge
He feeds off of pain
toxic ruin
inner moat
Draco called out everyone in tsl
Not me 
Although still playing wow probably reeks of more mental illness than being here while not playing wow
covert copper
queen raptor
Use me daddy
covert copper
Any dates on s1
toxic ruin
there's a dev update tomorrow sir
shell shale
going to be the most basic mechanic ever that wont add flavour to the game 
would like to eat my own words tho for something to do besides classic until poe
covert copper
Probly
covert copper
would like to eat my own words tho for something to do besides classic until poe
Classic hard-core?
shell shale
no im playing wotlk might game hc with the boys though
end of wotlk and cata extremely enjoyable to me
covert copper
Wotlk isn't it filled with rmt and boost
shell shale
probably, i just live in my own little corner with the boys and dont really pay attention to much else
lusty raven
most gdkps are swippers
covert copper
Bg3?
pastel flicker
play that then
worthy edge
this summer is stacked
D4 season > BG3 > PoE season > Classic Hardcore 
D4 season will probably not add much and we'll have to wait till S2 before we get anything interesting
and BG3 is easy to just jump in and out of between games 
worthy edge
my friend got gang banged by some boars at lvl 70 in hardcore - got charged by like 4 of them 
when he first told me I first thought he got killed by like the animation similar to reddit
ornate quarry
getting smacked by elias at 64
just ask for help bozo
covert copper
@ornate quarrywhen is d4 stream going
ornate quarry
no idea
covert copper
well
good news
its the cable
I tried hdmi and its fine
going away to buy a display port 1.4 cable
unique orchid
@covert copperThis is how long there's still diablo 4 stream
it'll work across all regions
<t:1688666400:R>
fluid dew
What wizardry is that
unique orchid
it's a unix timestamp, it's every second passed since jan 1st 1970 (UTC timezone)
https://www.unixtimestamp.com/ you can grab it from here
(or many other places 
)
and it's just no space in the thing so the one with date and everything I posted is <t:1688666400:F>
fluid dew
<t:1688666400:F>
ooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooo
I am no longer a failure
Which one of those options is the "in 3 hours" part
the R?
fluid dew
so like in 4 hours it will say 1 hour ago
covert copper
<@133291096246583296>This is how long there's still diablo 4 stream
Sweet ty
unique orchid
ornate quarry
wonder what the theme will be
the trailer teased corruption spreading
could be elder like influence, or maybe just corruption of items
fluid dew
Now you can corrupt your items so that you have a 1/3000 chance to get something good and a 2999/3000 chance to get shot in the left baby toe
pastel flicker
Now you can corrupt your items so that you have a 1/3000 chance to get something...
the arpg experience
umbral linden
ornate quarry
i bet were gonna get a d4 s1 theme and a launch date as only announcement
covert copper
is it their twitch
graceful ocean
Their onlyfans actually
covert copper
omw
quick minnow
wise moth
borrowed power
covert copper
guess we better wait for the poe patch instead
covert copper
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/899810550475784282/1126581230448676884/im...
cant wait for quin to be super hyped and claim this is better than poie
lusty raven
more like season of the stagnant
covert copper
season of ZZZZZ
pastel flicker
more like season of the stagnant
what do you think seasons do in arpgs peebler
lusty raven
mid tier games
covert copper
what do you think seasons do in arpgs peebler
a season in poe can give u 200-400h of new content
lusty raven
covert copper
new abilities for example
pastel flicker
is it spamming randomly generated dungeons with the enemies youd normally fight
covert copper
No
covert copper
Poe is what D4 should like take lessons from to see what they do
wise moth
They usually add a new endgame boss + new content thingy to farm
and new abilities etc
covert copper
and this exapnsion we will get a revamp of the end game
pastel flicker
the new boss takes 400 hours?
covert copper
No but the proggress there + learning it , finding out what it drops, bla bla etc
a poe veteran will play the patch up to 400-500h
pastel flicker
so its just grinding stuff?
covert copper
Well thats what u do in these games
pastel flicker
yeah thats what Ive been saying lol
covert copper
So u dont want new content instead minimal effort thats what blizz is doing
pastel flicker
did I say that
covert copper
no im confused why u trying to say its bad or smth?
pastel flicker
what are you talking about
shell shale
ornate quarry
the season is ok
shell shale
itll probably be entertainment for a week or two which is more than enough tbh
unique orchid
also go look at season 1 in poe and it would be small too
and people who've spent 400h on preseason d4 is gonna do the same in s1
people who enjoy the game are gonna pour hours into it, simple as
people expecting some expansion type thing for first season, y'all trippin
unique orchid
When S1 is out, they have a lot more time to work on S2, S3 etc than they had to work on S1 while they were making the actual game
and bugfixing and patching etc
they've moved super fast on a lot of major complains and addressing like everything in S1+S2
ornate quarry
yeah impressed that they said s2 has been in the pipeline for a while already
so they clearly are working hard and fast
unique orchid
so S3 and onwards probably gonna be a lot larger because they'll be spending less time fixing issues related to base game
covert copper
to much copium
shell shale
unique orchid
Okay dabbi and then the game wouldn't be out yet
covert copper
covert copper
@pastel flicker is it bedge time?
sturdy viper
gross a weeb
ornate quarry
Helltide chests can now drop Unique items.
The bosses Vhenard, Brol, and Cyhrach have had their health pools and damage output reduced.
The cap for crafting materials has been increased from 999 to 9999.
covert copper
covert copper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPLtXUcBYvg @sacred ruin I love quin 
neat hedge
shell shale
queen raptor
Stop lekaing, bitch
neat hedge
blizzard waiting til the 18th to fix the memory leak issues
Love it when every new game released nowadays is so horribly optimized it just shits itself and dies
Also looking at you, hogfarts legacy 
shell shale
ornate quarry
blizzard waiting til the 18th to fix the memory leak issues
you can work around it
since i've done that, i've had no crashes on d4 anymore
- delete 4k textures if you're not gaming at 4k
- increase your buffer of your pc, I increased mine to 32gb for example
like the virtual memory allocation
it's recommended to run double of your ram size
covert copper
Simp
unique orchid
think a lot of ppl are playing 4k textures accidentally
because it's auto selected when installing
ornate quarry
yeah i was one of them
uninstalled it and virtually no difference on 1440p
but it did remove the 4 hourly crashes in combination with increasing the virtual memory
i did not crash once in an 8 hour session and ram was normal
covert copper
because it's auto selected when installing
yep
restive light
because it's auto selected when installing
not me im very smart
unique orchid
steep kestrel
I deffo gamed a ton of hours and I crashed like, twice going to 100
both in the same ish hour, I just assumed my pc had been on for too long and restarted it and nothing more
https://i.imgur.com/4sMfupx.png and seems like I'm on 4k?
lusty raven
https://i.imgur.com/4sMfupx.png and seems like I'm on 4k?
Yes
ornate quarry
I deffo gamed a ton of hours and I crashed like, twice going to 100
yeah not everyone is cursed, but I know at least 3 in our guild that suffered from it, and it was random too and it was very inconsistent in crashing too, sometimes the game closed itself with an error or the pc just locked or rebooted, and never any errors in event viewer either
pastel flicker
gamer???
covert copper
Wooooooter is pogging
shell shale
gonna try and get as close to 100 before s1
make sure not to burn urself out before s1 bro
worthy edge
yeah, taking a pause till season 1 is a good thing
neat hedge
gonna try and get as close to 100 before s1
Slap echo of lilith around and you're done for now
queen raptor
think a lot of ppl are playing 4k textures accidentally
I was gigabrainenough to turn it off
shell shale
d4 season launching 10am pdt/1pm est?
big w compared to d3 season launches actually
queen raptor
its ok, no one knows what pdt or est is anyway
restive light
d4 season launching 10am pdt/1pm est?
so based
always hated the 7pm orw/e the fuck launches of d3
shell shale
pastel flicker
@shell shale u rolling anything new for season
shell shale
correct
wooden juniper
I curse whoever at blizzard decided these 8 elite rooms was a good idea. this area especially is pain. i love having a bunch of bullshit on the ground and then having walls that keep me from getting out of the bullshit on the ground lol
wooden juniper
Can the walls even be killed? if they can be im an idiot. Though I still think this whole room is a hodgepod of bullshit.
wooden juniper
I brute forced the room by killing one or two of the elites between like 3 respawns lol
steep kestrel
I swear to fuck
I can kill them
on my sorc
10000%
thought it was a really nice addition
compared to d3
you telling me you can't ?
queen raptor
uuuh
i think i have killed walls
but im also pretty sure ive found some walls that couldnt be hit
steep kestrel
I have never found ones that don't just instantly get annihilated by my ice shards
wooden juniper
kill the wall
I found another grave elite. You were right. The walls are killable
wooden juniper
i feel real stupid for not realizing the walls can be killed 57 levels in lmao
unique orchid
I was gigabrainenough to turn it off <:ez:469921804526288898>
Followed by a smolbrain above, its okay i still love u Loik
graceful ocean
d4 season launching 10am pdt/1pm est?
Do we have a date yet I haven’t been keeping up
shell shale
20th or 21st idr
graceful ocean
Oh shit that’s giga soon
wooden juniper
I'm a moron lmao. I found the butcher in a dungeon. I thought he was behind a closed door because he wasnt engaging with me at all. I alt tabbed to check something and when I tab back in, the butcher was free and he had killed me lmao
just glad I'm not playing hc
worthy edge
I don't think you'd make such a mistake if you were playing HC 
wooden juniper
tru
wooden juniper
I do wish there was an offline mode sometimes
I remember one time I died during a story boss fight because of internet lag
wasnt even on my end either, it was blizz's shitty servers lol
steep kestrel
I just really miss being able to escape mid-rift (dungeon or W/E) to grab a drink or something
queen raptor
Not having pause
Draco being a bitch wussy as usual
neat hedge
I mean it's a bit annoying
Oh I have to town portal like a girl before I can spurt diarrhea on my throne
The other option being wearing a diaper
ornate quarry
quin just looks for the most controversive side in arguments so he can be crazy
soft drum
Can't blame him, that approach has given him a house and family, and provides for them
People enjoy an overly performative "stupid is my personality" approach
It's like wrestling they don't care if it's overly fake, it's entertainment if they suspend their disbelief
pastel flicker
isnt that why ppl watch asmonslime
graceful ocean
d4 patch coming in 5h20
patch notes 
covert copper
Any minion buffs
fluid dew
They're gutting crit dam and vuln dam wtf
covert copper
@fluid dew any necro changes
fluid dew
probably
The channel time for the Leave Dungeon ability has been increased from 3 to 5 seconds.
The game is fucking dead
steep kestrel
lmao one of sorcs new affixes
is so dumb
THANKS BLIZZ
MAYBE WE'LL LIKE THIS HEART IN S2
WHEN RESISTANCES WORK
frank jewel
@covert copper
covert copper
Pog
frank jewel
No clue if any of those changes make minion build interesting tho
fluid dew
I think they killed their game with all the nerfs
Need to actually read the patch notes myself but from what I'm seeing it's grim
frank jewel
Druid time it is
ornate quarry
rouge wasn't hit that hard
fluid dew
Deadge
ornate quarry
true but the end game for virtually every build became crit chance crit dmg and vulnerable at some point
i don't see rogue having much issues
frank jewel
Xp nerfs
ornate quarry
i hope they do small mid season patches
the problem is idk what i will play
necro bloodmist
might be op with the new power heart
Walking near a Corpse automatically activates an equipped Corpse Skill every second, dealing 40-30% reduced damage.
this could be so much fun
pastel flicker
reddit complain about crit and vuln being build centralizing
reddit complain when crit and vuln are nerfed
covert copper
Is necro finally minion build now ??
fluid dew
<a:WickedDriver:842512130364014682>
HELL YEAH BROTHER
covert copper
shell shale
soon brother dont worry
queen raptor
thats nice
covert copper
Nooo waaay
covert copper
It's blizz
fluid dew
Twitter
sturdy viper
a damage control chat*
graceful ocean
Why tho
idk helltide was kind of a let down with the enemies
so this change feels reasonable
covert copper
steep kestrel
Dude I don't understand
they've openly admitted resistances atm don't work properly
and they give sorc a heart
that's 20-40% resistance against an element
they've been hit by
I don't get why they wouldn't just
temporarily do something that gives sorcs (and to an extent necros) something to compensate
for the fact that main stat does nothing defensively
untill fixed
"intellect now temporarily provides armor at the same rate as strength (will be be reverted once resistances have been fixed in S2)
done
fixed
graceful ocean
wait they aren't fixing resistances till S2?
graceful ocean
steep kestrel
which is why this is so wild
covert copper
lusty raven
NOP
steep kestrel
Think I and a lot of my guild is just skipping it tbh
This is like extraordinarily bad
Already wasn't entirely happy with them not fixing resistances or doing something temporary to compensate Necro and sorc till they did, and now they've just gone full derp
wise moth
me and my irl friend were quite hesitant but this is prob gonna make us not play d4 
atleast 2v2v2v2 is coming out
covert copper
D4 s1 is so cringe with these changes
coral holly
D4 is dead before season 1 even launched with a patch like this.
Classic Blizzard, they’re clueless
soft drum
These patch notes were so shit
i actually dont want to play season now
no shot i take the day off work for that
coral holly
When the third bullet after a list of bug fixes is "teleport time increased from 3 to 5 seconds"
ornate quarry
Why tho
not really an issue
i get up to 800 cinders in 20minutes in helltides by just running event to event and quickly owning a cluster of mobs in between the travel paths
I think they are doing a campfire to probably rollback a lot of their nerfs
frank jewel
I think they are doing a campfire to probably rollback a lot of their nerfs
POV of blizz behind the scenes
coral holly
oh lord
steep kestrel
"critism"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx1PLArdTmY not a bad rant for those who don't quite get the concerns we have
sturdy viper
ornate quarry
i have a feeling they will have to do an emergency revert the nerfs like ggg had to do quite a few times
fluid dew
I mean there's no shot they keep it like that with how overwhelming the feedback is
ornate quarry
it's blizzard
they have shown they can be quite dense
everyone says the same,if you want game to hurt more in the end
add t5 at 80 and t6 at 90
and t7 at 100
more investment, more rewards, harder scaling = more on floor
steep kestrel
Literally, they had a winning formula with D3 once they realized they could just
add more torment levels
once people scaled out of the current tier
that they didn't expect us to outscale T4 from launch is whatever, just throw in a few more tiers and let this be the new baseline
GG
pastel flicker
whens the campire apology chat
fluid dew
Friday
pastel flicker
anyone making a bingo
explanation? double down? "we want things to be slower and more threatening?" xd
coral holly
Campfire chat after S1 launched
My money is on vague promises for future seasons that almost everyone forgets about and never get implemented
Game will die a quick death and will only be played by a virtual handful of Blizzard addicts every season like D3. Casuals will just move on to newer games and ARPG nerds will return to PoE/LE.
pastel flicker
thinking diablo is gonna die is kind of dramatic seeing as how d3 got updated up until d4 lol
inner moat
Portal might be a long cast, but uninstall isnt 
worthy edge
Season 1 will probably follow D3 seasons and will be fun for a week and that's it
Which is fine by me, since BG3 and exilecon at the start of August, followed by PoE league
pastel flicker
yeah, average arpg experience lol
pastel flicker
but I will play 2 weeks straight of BG3 first
bg3 to the 18th, poe for 2 weeks, just in time for 10.2 ptr
covert copper
Dw quin find a way to say this id good
shell shale
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/153aarc/just_tested_out_the_new_sorcer...
someone remake this but for poe please
ornate quarry
Game will die a quick death and will only be played by a virtual handful of Bliz...
This game won't die fast
D3 has proven that many times over
took them 12 seasons to kill off the game
coral holly
There’s a difference. Came on the heels of their most successful entry and the first couple of seasons pushing GRs were actually proper fun before they started ruining their own product with set items and season journeys.
wise moth
just grind 2v2v2v2 gamemode
covert copper
In league ?
wise moth
yes
neat hedge
D3 has proven that many times over
Tbf diablo 3 was very unfun until the reaper of soul prepatch streamlined a lot
Rmah 
ornate quarry
There’s a difference. Came on the heels of their most successful entry and the f...
They sold 10 million copies of D4
they hit 1.2 billion profit of D4
this version is more succesfull than the last, because the last was a free copy that wow players literally got for free
financially
coral holly
doesn't say anything about the popularity of the seasonal content and staying power of the game
ornate quarry
i don't see this nerf removing all 10 million players
maybe a million at most
there's a lot of things you can shit on, but I don't think they need to worry about the amount of players and as d3 has shown, very good seasons do pull those back in that quit because of a bad previous season, but the seasonal theme had to be really good.
Either way I'm not part of the weak reddit group herd mentality of oh the game is dead, the game will be fine, just like that nerf patch for poe was a blimp in the road, and they've recovered from that with some banger leagues, D4 will eventually find it's way and hopefully it will be an engaging game then.
ornate quarry
no
ornate quarry
I'm luckily playing a build that wasn't really nerfed
and will kill uber lilith in under a minute
if i was a sorc main i would be mad
my schedule was always gonna be d4 -> poe -> 10.2 ptr + launch wow -> cities skylines 2 -> poe -> d4
neat hedge
I'm luckily playing a build that wasn't really nerfed
Tornado dog?
ornate quarry
bone spear necro
still as busted
might try a minion build if they can make one where minions don't fall over all the time
coral holly
i don't see this nerf removing all 10 million players
what 10mio players? you really think they have 10mio active players?
ornate quarry
no i don't, but likely most of them will try to play the first day
we'll see how the servers are to indicate
thinking about it, I hope they see a sharp drop off
otherwise they will think their nerfs were justified
graceful ocean
might try a minion build if they can make one where minions don't fall over all ...
don't turn into Dabbi
covert copper
I'll play xcom.and bg3 over d4 next few weeks
ornate quarry
don't turn into Dabbi <:despairge:975807482490421329>
I always enjoyed minion builds
neat hedge
Minions are bonespear isn't
covert copper
Yes
inner moat
Druid most played class on launch for sure
worthy edge
seems also to be one of the more fun classes to play
covert copper
Necro was fun until minion become uselesa
coral holly
Sorc or bust
covert copper
I'm not sure
Not done any research yet
Will mostly just wing my first play through
And second one I will plan more
inner moat
Why throw people when you can move them with your telikinetic wizard cock
covert copper
Rename thread to bg3
sturdy viper
Dabbi is probably going to speed run BG3 for the bear sex
covert copper
Always
covert copper
Why throw people when you can move them with your telikinetic wizard cock
@sacred ruin star
sacred ruin
dont @ me
inner moat
Any BG3 enjoyers we now have a thread where we can have WILD BEAR SEX
neat hedge
We should make a sex thread for bg 3
queen raptor
I love people repeating shit and prpbably didnt even read the patch notes 
pastel flicker
nooo I can watch a sparknotes version of asmonbald and fully undersatnd it
fluid dew
Okay doolbald
covert copper
Any BG3 enjoyers we now have a thread where we can have WILD BEAR SEX
WILD BEAR SEXC
WE LOVE SEX
covert copper
HAHAHAHAHHAA
covert copper
imagine
coral holly
servers are borked anyway, dont even bother trying
shell shale
I thought people were skipping the shit
100% skipping 
sturdy viper
queen raptor
LMAO WHAT
steep kestrel
sturdy viper
pastel flicker
sorry to say but after casually browsing the sub reddit i think everyone is being extremely dramatic about the patch
people claiming the nerf was to drive people to buy things in the shop (?) really sealed the deal
sturdy viper
okay simp
pastel flicker
manaless is the type of person to post insane conspiracy theories on the sub
no you see them nerfing sorc overall vuln from 252 to 213 (16%) is a gigantic dps nerf and only did that to push me to buy MTX
fluid dew
Blizzard nerfed the game so hard god himself strike lightning to my power to prevent me from playing
queen raptor
sorry to say but after casually browsing the sub reddit i think everyone is bein...
in 2023?????? impossible
sturdy viper
The one unique sorc got this patch and it doesn't work 
ornate quarry
the only thing they got right is the renown changes
only need to do dungeons; waypoints and stronghold
covert copper
might play thnis weekend cause im bored out of my fucking mind and have no rts to no life
ornate quarry
DIABLO 4 IS DEAD
we're having fun
it could be better
but the sky if falling is a bit overrated
covert copper
I JUST want bg3 and f1 to come out
ornate quarry
another positive
the necromancer armors look so good
holy fuck
how did they fuck up armor looks so much with druids
ornate quarry
blizzard listening
hotfix today to rescale nm dungeons and will increase density considerately
1.1.1 patch they will redo aspects of sorcerers and barbs
new type of end game content next season
queen raptor
THE GAME IS DEAD
TRAHS GAME
CALSSIC BLIZZ
LMAO
WAITING FOR BALDING GATE 3 AND POE2
ONE STEL CLOAER TO THE EDGE AND IMA BOTU TO BREAK
covert copper
D4 is such a joke
queen raptor
yeye game ded
queen raptor
mf trying to steal
covert copper
sorry buy game again!
pastel flicker
Is bnet dead? cant even load the app or login
i think bnet is havin some troubs
frank jewel
wtf Ive created a character but dont have all my waypoints, altars etc unlocked????????????????
frank jewel
Saved
covert copper
cause blizzard cant code
frank jewel
tytytytytyty
covert copper
did it work`?
soft drum
Yesterday pumps hit both the druid bear unique chest and helm before level 50 and fucking sent it to the moon, I am in awe of his luck rofl
I hit the fucking combopoint dagger that sucks 6 times instead
Eeeee
fluid dew
I hit the fucking combopoint dagger that sucks 6 times instead
PEN SHOT BABY
soft drum
never penshotting that is such a cancer build
fluid dew
why wtf
frank jewel
my necr is lvl 10
The new heart that triggers corpse abilities is super pog
Shits just proccing tendrils and blighted corpses like crazy
Legit just standing still and get mobs restacked every 3-4 seconds
soft drum
Yeah tb for now
pastel flicker
@soft drum whats the leveling strat
shell shale
ornate quarry
shut up you don't even play the game
ornate quarry
longer than you played that cyclone hh build