heavy mesa
Was seeing if Any High ranking warcraft Log hunters around to Chat with. Just trying to perform the best I'm capable of. And maybe I'm Using abilities at wrong Times in fights so looking to Maximize my output in raids.
If anyone has some time I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
fading summit
I would highly recommend posting logs so ppl can see what youre working with and give advice 🙂
heavy mesa
I was just hoping to get to chat with someone So I could get a little more understanding of maybe things I could improve on at certain points in Fights but I will for sure post Logs.
fading summit
the only way anyone can tell you how to improve is by looking at your logs
heavy mesa
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/numbatwo
Here are ALL my logs from Normal/Heroic/Mythic
I fully understand that... I was hoping to chat in discord. I feel i get a better understanding of it is all
fading summit
im not able to do voice chat, but first things first, im noticing youre not using your CD correctly right off the bat.
First thing i looked at in Eranog heroic, i dont see a death chakram cast,
heavy mesa
Luddeus Thanks for looking at it
fading summit
you dont
heavy mesa
I would have to double check
fading summit
you should just be using CDs as CDs
esp on heroic where things just dont live that long
you used death chakram twice in a 2:53 fight
so youre wasting a lot of it
but regardless of saving CDs or not youre wasting a lot of your trueshot
fading summit
it should really look something like chakram>volley>wait for GCD> trueshot+rapidfire etc
not sure if i would cast explosive shot on pull there on eranog
since adds wont spawn in that early window but thats tiny
heavy mesa
So some of my early research said something like Chakram/ES/Volley Cd's
fading summit
also rapidfire needs to be a much bigger priority in your head
theres a few spots in this log where youre just not casting it on CD
you cast one at 0:24 and one at 0:54 and nothing in between
from looking at this so far i think youre really overthinking parsing and doing better etc
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So Chakram Uptime I'll Craft a WeakAura for that
fading summit
it really is about just using your CDs and following priorities
chakram should always be used with volley
theyre both 45s CD
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Ok
heavy mesa
yea
fading summit
if you really wanted
you can space it out to use with your double tap in between trueshots
since DT is 1min
cuz its not like youd use it at 0, 45s, 90s, oops dont have it for trueshot
UNLESS
yiou know youre only gonna get 2 trueshots the whole fight
heavy mesa
Yea i TRY to DT/all my mini CD's then try to Rapid fire with it
fading summit
in which case yeah you can do that and get more chakram/volleys in
so take eranog for example
fight time 2:53
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then T into a rapid fire in middle
fading summit
you wont get a 3rd trueshot
so you dont HAVE to use trueshot on CD, as long as you get a 2nd
the problem is it seems like youre HELLA saving rapid fire JUST to do that
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Ok
fading summit
which is really bad
also really minor thing
you cast misdirect on eranog, dont do that
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Ok this is where I know i need to keep the better synced
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k
fading summit
cuz the ads fixate
fading summit
another thing, if youre gonna double tap or explosive shot into CDs, do it BEFORE
for instance
you wasted a gcd here on the explosive
so thats time lost of the dmg buff
oh btw
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So i should ES into Chakram
fading summit
you should DC > Volley, not the other way around
and yes
because you want to make the most use out of your DC/Volley windoy
instead of just using GCDs
heavy mesa
ok ES> DC > Volley
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So I wasnt sure if i should sit on the CD or not
fading summit
double tap at 1:04
next rapid fire is 1:24
you probably had rapid fire up for that double tap
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So i should try to Hold the Rapid at 54 to 1 Minute
fading summit
no you dont hold anything
you had it up for that double tap
or at least i think you did, id have to look further
fading summit
So i should try to Hold the Rapid at 54 to 1 Minute
or just hold your double tap
to use with rapid fire
as long as you dont lose a cast
the big thing im seeing in the log is youre thinking about "saving" too much
or "optimizing"
heavy mesa
Yea thats the little stuff I'm missing out for sure
fading summit
where really you shouldnt care about any of that
the saving and optimizing really comes from just minor adjustments based on learning the fights once youre already orange on everything
anything else is just pressing buttons
and it sounds dumb but
youre just not pressing buttons, and saving stuff because it "might" be more useful later
and end up losing a LOT of uptime on high priority spells
another minor thing i noticed
cancelled casts are bad and obv cant be avoided sometimes
but
theres not much on eranog that you shouldbe cancelling like that for
so 2 things
fading summit
imo on heroic
you should just be multishotting boss and doing shit to the boss
cuz adds should be on boss
and if theyre not, someone fucked up, someone will kill the add, doesnt matter at that point
but tbh
heavy mesa
I try to slip a Kill shot in on the adds lol
fading summit
you already used multishot rapidfire at 1:23
and explo at 1:27
sso casting a full aimed shot is very ambitious for heroic lmao
oh yeah killshot obviously but
killshot should be on a mouseover
so you dont have to untarget boss
but yeah casting a full aimed shot let alone trying a second time is pretty bad there
obv depends on your group but
in that situation if theres still 2 or more, id jsut multishot the boss
target boss
and if you get the ricochet, great, if not oh well
you still get your dmg
didnt lose a cast
cuz you had 8 whole seconds of doing nothing there
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Yea
fading summit
same comment as i made before but
double tap before TS
cuz here you wasted a gcd during trueshot
ok that was eranog i think you get the gist tho
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GCD
fading summit
a lot to work on there
but
lemme look at council rq
as mentioned earlier, should be double tap prepull, then explosive>chakram>volley>wait GCD> trueshot with your rapidfire
same comment about making sure you use rapid fires for your double taps but
looks a lot better overall
you multishotted twice in a row a couple times but thats minor
if this happens:
just save your trueshot a bit until your chakram voley come up
so you can use them together
and obv same comment about using GCDs like explosive shot right after trueshot
basically all the same stuff from eranog t owork on but less tiny mistakes throughotu on council as opposed to eranog
so id suggest making sure you know the correct priorities
heavy mesa
Ok So Big Focus points Try to cast Nothing After Trueshot but damage
fading summit
and just following them
esp on heroic
yeah
make the most out of your dmg window
think about it like this
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DC/ Volley together
fading summit
if someone irl brings you to a bank and tells you "you have 20s to pick up as much money as you can"
youre not gonna try adjusting your pants or anything in the middle of that
same applies to wow
dont waste time when it matters
a lot of this boils down to "press buttons"
if you dont already have one id recommend getting some weakaura setup
heavy mesa
Damn i felt like i was LOL
fading summit
that makes it easier for you to see when things are coming up
its certainly not unusual to feel that way
like it could feel like oh shit im in CDs i HAVE to use it now and then feel like youre catching up on setup during CDs
heavy mesa
Yea I got Effie's Weak Aura Package with Azrothians Barb Shot for BM
fading summit
but as long as you dont lose a cast on your CD
theres nothign wrong with delaying it
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Andi Craft some Extra little Ones to Help me pay attention to other shit sometimes
So try to do all my PRE CD bull then Pop TRUESHOT GO HAMS!
fading summit
ye exactly
i forgot if i mentioned earlier
i mentioned it once but just overall
non fight specific
you need to make use of disengage
it helps so much with setup
esp with the fact that you can disengage during rapid fire
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I probably hold it for scary shit Since im a paper weight in raids lol
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But for sure should use it more often.
fading summit
or fort of bear
im on phone so its likely im being dumb
but first glance im not seeing a ton
thats one of the most impt things in raid
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Well Eranog I probably not to worried but Mythic Terros SHIT WAS ON ROTATION LOL
fading summit
well just in general
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Yea
fading summit
yes its good to use them for exact instance when you KNOW you need it but
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I do need to be more proactive in using them Generally
fading summit
np
hopefully you get there!
but one thing id say in general in wow is
dont focus so much on hyper researching and whatnot
thatll come later
get the basics down first
you can get orange parses by just knowing the basics
and being consistent
heavy mesa
That's honestly my goal is Consistent Orange 90's + Honestly Because that's where I feel is when the Minmaxing comes in play/ But i think Me trying to pay better attention to my GCD Windows during Cd's will help alot
fading summit
oh another thing i wanna mention just very generally/as any class in wow
imo the best way to START improving is a 2 step process
heavy mesa
2 hour Target Dummy Sessions lol
fading summit
Step 1) go to top players for each fight, pick 3 or 4 of them, look at their cast>timelines and compare to yours. look for the differences
if there are differences, step 1 as your improving is just copycat
esp if all of them are doing it
but Step 2 is to trwy to understand WHY theyre doing what theyre doing
and what fundamental misunderstanding YOU have that made you not do it
heavy mesa
Thanks!
fading summit
wow is not a hard game in the sense that theres very very very little decision making for spell order in the grand scheme of things
so its never ognna be like "oh this one guy got top parse because he did something weird and had 300IQ and whatnot"
the top 100 are all doing the same thing
some just push buttons better
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PI's lets not lie here 🙂
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I know lol
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Yea most of the top they dont have it
fading summit
ofc PI helps but
PI goes to ppl who are good
also i know it was meant as a joke but 2hour dummy sessions are really dumb until youre at a point where you know your basics are fine from looking at logs
heavy mesa
That's what I want to be 🙂 The guy they just want to give it to. Not because i need it just because my Performance shows I'm deserving
fading summit
in fact its not jsut dumb but actively bad
cuz until you know youre doing the right thing, practicing the wrong thing is just gonna fuck your muscle memory
practice makes perfect is the biggest lie in the world
practice makes permanent, thats all
heavy mesa
THATS What I'm always worried about Practicing the wrong thing and not having a clue till it's a glaring issue
fading summit
yeah exactlyu
hence why i brought up the top logs thing
litearlly whenever ive releveled a spec and picked it up again
heavy mesa
I generally look at them like the list style
fading summit
ill do a raid
and first thing ill do is just go look at logs
look at the cast timelines
and just compare
Cast>Timelines is your best friend
theres a lot of other useful info from logs
but as youre starting out, cast>Timelines is the easiest thing to think about, compare, and find immediate issues
once you know theres no issues from looking at your timeline consistnetly, thats when you can start looking at other stuff
like buff uptimes, # of casts etc etc
but that comes later
heavy mesa
Ill have to do the Compare things More
fading summit
i gtg but hope that helped!