Teamfight Tactics

[final glade]

Very big but the guy still just wins the game anyways

[vague wind]

worst part of piltover is the fact that you have to play 3 units

[vague wind]

the tristana forcer griefed me again 3-6

[final glade]

tf lmao

[vague wind]

meanhwhile

this guys just rewarded!!!!

the pervert!!!

love the matchups of "top 2 that will deal 20 if you dont play a board" and "the least upgraded yordles youve ever seen"

[final glade]

kek

[final glade]

Eternally cursed to bot 4 before I leave for work and then be sad for 8 hours

[vague wind]

[slate talon]

bruh how is indomitable will a silver augment

seems op

[slate talon]

finally back home from interstate and can blast ranked I kinda hate being a tf user but I'm having such success with it

[final glade]

ornn has become the new meta

[final glade]

@vague wind

any idea of the bugs around this augment or how to fix lol

im playing it rn and half my fights its just not even shooting

[vague wind]

always worked for me

[final glade]

pretty epic

still went 2nd and imagine i wouldve been first if i had that augment

[vague wind]

that thing owned early when i pciked it

even lategame it was a free few thousand

pinpoint when i stopped forcing ekko

(it's actually the start of the first dip we dont talk about those dark days)

[slate talon]

Gratz

[final glade]

i need tips

i think maybe not trying in set 8 and pbe has very much rotted my brain for tft

too much focus on fun

[vague wind]

ya fun BIG mistake

im just a simple item slammer into level 7 challenger/aphelios/zeri pivoter

resisting rolling on 6 at all costs unless im like playing some midgame comp with 6 pairs already was p big

dont need strong board just need more gold at 7 even if it means im just leveling early to stop bleeding out

also highroll ornn items

im trying to think of a time outside of when i was playing sorcs that i didnt immediately regret rolling at 6 its p cursed

kinda unfun in that regard

[final glade]

@vague wind so speaking of not playing for fun

i am having a peak 4fun game rn

[vague wind]

goldmancer

thing never procs

[final glade]

nice i actually did a full pivot and did it super well full swapped my entire board

then some guy hit belveth 3 so i just took 25 and lost

this game is awful

[vague wind]

[final glade]

@vague wind

im seriously diseased

cannot stop 4funning

[slate talon]

[slate talon]

stronk?

[final glade]

no not really

LMAO

that was cool hit a chase trait that requires 2 +1s and then be fully upgraded level 9 with a ryze

then lose and its not even close to a zeri board

[slate talon]

felt the same when I tried 9 Noxus

[tall whale]

LOOK AT HIM GO

only got to 52 😦

[slate talon]

chonker

[cosmic linden]

i tried tft again

im clueless whats happend

[final glade]

@vague wind

[vague wind]

[final glade]

im bot 4ing

baron just sucks.. idk..

i went 4 loss 1 win on stage 4 with baron from 4-1

xdd

ok im going 4th

but also the game kinda scammed me hard i feel

this augment doesnt work on baron

[final glade]

LMAO

[vague wind]

jfc

[final glade]

wacky combo

had perfect gold to go 9 on 5-2 at 17 hp then won out

poggies

also when i picked the level up one i was like ok im on targon prime the cashout has got me guaranteed i can go 9

cashout was 2 components and 1 5 cost

[slate talon]

Wtf lmao

@final glade is March of progress still shit I remember avoiding that augment like the plague last set

[final glade]

extremely op

[slate talon]

I see

[slate talon]

the people who spam ping at the start if ur not on the portal they want are subhuman

[final glade]

Yeah that's a quick deafen

[vague wind]

ya i popped deafen a lot so far this season

[tall whale]

has anyone tried the 9 kayle comp

gonna try force it in ranked first time what could g owrong

[final glade]

the kayle part is absolute bait

locket stacking bastion frontline is definitely good

not as good as the classic zeri comp but still probably an A tier comp

10000% better to just play double guinsoos aphelios or zeri or belveth or heimer than kayle though

[slate talon]

Ye I got baited into it with the demacian augment and even then Kayle still felt underwhelming

[vague wind]

this just doesnt even look fun to play or play against maybe its a keep waiting til wednesday angle

[final glade]

i actually think its kinda lit

u just scout for tf players on 2-1

and then if everyojne is tf they are all gonna hold hands

and u just playu some normy sorc or zeri angle

and its a free af top 4 as they all eat eachother

[vague wind]

every fight just looks boring as hell

what if i just slam zephyr 2-1 and hit the kayle

[tall whale]

@final glade

[final glade]

xdd

[tall whale]

game telling me

the kayle is a bait

what do i want as a third item

IE or LW?

[fast ocean]

Aren’t you letting Kayle get empowered?

Never seen kayle comp before in my games

[tall whale]

its mmainly just bastion

kayle is fast 9 if ur stomping i believe

[final glade]

its just never kayle

but last item ppl do titans or lw

[fast ocean]

I feel like everytime I read or watch something I get baited into comps that never work for me

[final glade]

this was an epic combo

i deff think 6 bastion is really good and playing kayle early is viable/smart

but yeah late game just play the good units

ALSO personally i think the main thign that keeps 6 bastion good late game is just ksante being a beast

but u can just put him on any baord so..

lost to this board 4 fights in a row where i killed his entire board except the thex with my entire board alive

and then i get 1v9d be the thex

piltover is so awful man

[slate talon]

first 2 items of the game

[fast ocean]

Classic zekes enjoyer myself

(I hate the comp but it always works)

[slate talon]

same

and then it gives me those 2 items

[fast ocean]

I should just switch away from tf

So I can play other comps

[slate talon]

I like invokers

fun comp

[fast ocean]

Not sure if I have a favorite one rn tbh

[slate talon]

oh darius + kat is fun too

[fast ocean]

Had my first game earlier where it got destroyed by ekko too but once I hit 3* garen it was over

[slate talon]

oh ye I never really tried ekko

[slate talon]

I keep trying to but getting bis items is so nice

[fast ocean]

Yeah true

[final glade]

just stomped azir 3 like 4 fights in a row

[fast ocean]

Wtf are these nerfs tho

[slate talon]

wtf lmao

[slate talon]

can u send link

[fast ocean]

https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/teamfight-tactics-patch-13-13-notes/

[slate talon]

ily

fkn huuuge patch

[tall whale]

just happened to me aswell

i was the azir 3

[final glade]

yeah the cope is they just wanted to bandaid fix murder locket while they figure out what they want to do with pandoras

but my god locket is unbuildable this patch

[fast ocean]

mort made a post about tf

but yeah locket is like completely gone from the game

[slate talon]

oh really what did he say

[final glade]

tldr its not optimal but its a bit too close
pandoras grey > 0 components
pandoras gold > 1 component

[slate talon]

ye gold giving 2 components is kinda stronk

[final glade]

i still think outside of teh comps that need very specific items like bastion or garen pandoras has never been that great

[fast ocean]

i kinda feel like pandora is far ahead of the rest

but mostly bc I am not a great situational player

so I rather force a comp and not play with what I get

[final glade]

thats exactly what it should be good for though

[fast ocean]

Yeah that’s basically what mort wants too

But just saying this bc I can’t really judge the overall strength

[final glade]

new patch lookin great a lot has changed

[fast ocean]

they buffed kayle too

[final glade]

buffed kayle but took the baseball bat to the kneecaps of her best comp

[fast ocean]

they did?

[final glade]

didnt u link the locket change..

[slate talon]

bastion nerfed

[fast ocean]

yeah no idea never played kayle or seen her in my games before

[final glade]

kayle comp was the locket stacking bastion stuff like this

[fast ocean]

I see

[final glade]

tbf these 2 guys managed to streak all of stage 3/4 with it so it might still have something to it despite the giga nerfs

[fast ocean]

was gwen really underperforming?

Every time I played her she felt quite strong tbh

[final glade]

yeah my impression was that every 4 cost carry/tank was strong last patch

gwen was deff the weakest of them

i dont mind the buff but didnt really think she needed it either

its kinda weird when the very first patch of a set is so good and ihave so little to bitch about

dont even have anything i really want them to change

other than piltover i guess but thats like a personal hatred idk if its a balance issue

[fast ocean]

okay but so nothing changed with this patch and I can keep on playing like the last days?

[final glade]

o things deff changed

immediately after a tft patch though no one plays any diff bc no one knows what has become broken

[fast ocean]

fair

[final glade]

some spicy new shit wil pop up

but i guess off reading patch notes id expect the kaisa/yas comp to be a big victor

[fast ocean]

challenger is rising

ye

[final glade]

im still a kalista hater but that comp was relatively close to beating me

and then the reksai board actually was 100% beating me if i didnt ksante off reksai

[fast ocean]

i like kalista

[final glade]

actually kek if i include top 4

2-4 all kaisa only losing to a piltover cashout board

[fast ocean]

always a nice comp if you can sort out your frontline

ok I force kaisa yas it seems

[final glade]

the version ive typically played is pretty much what either 2nd or 4th played but its basically just kaisa yas + a bunch of flex slots

lotta good options, maybe gwen is a good one rn too who knows

[fast ocean]

always went for this

yeah gwen was really nice in there imo

[final glade]

its definitely a good framework to me it just seems like in a high roll game or where ur playing for first type thing theres just no way any of those 1-2 costs can be worth

like the 2nd place guy ended up going out of most of them for like random expensive units i deff think thats correct

oh right the other obvious "prediction" for this patch is just azir/shurima comps

they were already a solid like low A high B tier comp last patch

[fast ocean]

Ok fair

[final glade]

+azir got giga buffed

[fast ocean]

Never tried azir so far

[final glade]

[fast ocean]

[final glade]

highkey i have no idea what that even does

maybe less likely to get hit by jarvan or maybe just aesthetics

[fast ocean]

Probably the latter

[final glade]

idrk what any of this means fully

its all buffs but whether to a degree that matters or not who knows

im sure ppl will cook up some cool shit this patch i doubt last patch even finished getting solved but yas/kaisa is a good start for sure

[fast ocean]

oh well first game of the new patch inc

with tf ofc

or maybe

[final glade]

draven/cait sound scary

[fast ocean]

yeah kinda does

tbf you dont really need exact items for this comp ig

[final glade]

poro is kinda funny

[tall whale]

what are they cooking

[final glade]

ur basically just playing poro to fish for the good generic combat augments

[fast ocean]

maybe I try poro

[final glade]

is ok, does run the slight risk of starting the game with an augment u dont like which is not a vibe

[final glade]

im trying yi atm bc this high elo NA guy has been playing it

[fast ocean]

draven seems like a thing tho

[final glade]

i kinda like the idea, ur just guaranteed to get combat augments

draven seems bad if ur not willing to flex early

all about being strong early and if the idea is to try to force irelia/ionia/challengers every opener ur not gonna always be strong

[fast ocean]

tbf the early of that comp is pretty strong

but yeah not guaranteed

[final glade]

he got buffed this patch and i think hes fun

could be good, can always just not click his augment if ur opener isnt looking greta

[fast ocean]

the good thing about not playing tf is that I can slam items early

and not wait for the components to reroll

[final glade]

thats what im sayin

i almost never have more than 2 components on bench normally and then im playing tf and just sitting there with like fuckin 4 sometimes

[fast ocean]

got blessed anyway tho

[slate talon]

[fast ocean]

got kicked out by a baron obv

hate void

[vague wind]

I've heard whispers prismatic dravens broken but hacen tplayed it myself

[final glade]

I played it and killed 24 units stage 2 and for 3 gold from it

But then it gave me a tome on like 3-3

So that was cool

[fast ocean]

Ok enough trying random comps

Slayer zed didn’t work out at all for me

[final glade]

ok im gettin kinda nervous

i think with no hotfix i might be taking a 3 week break from tft

everyone is just picking draven and clicking the 20 free roll augment on 4-2

so ur just forced to roll to 0 on or before 4-2

[tall whale]

ye ive been playing cait with that

kinda crazy at 4-2 just roll down and board complete

[final glade]

pretty sure drave is just turbo bis

[tall whale]

from the buffed spoils + free rolls?

[final glade]

yep

u dont even need to win roudns with spoils just play strongest and be able to kill 2-3 units

snowballs so fucking hard

then on 4-2 if the whole lobby can get 21 rolls on 4-2 and u cant like ur just fucked

[vague wind]

LMAO

ive played exactly 1 game today cause im preppin mainswap but sounds like i picked a good time

dodged most of bastion spam dodged draven

[final glade]

whats the main swap

[vague wind]

spriest

[final glade]

ive played 2 games both 7/8 draven players

6/8 spoils clicked

[vague wind]

[final glade]

5/8 rolling for days

i mean bro im sitting here havent made interest in a stage

and im making 5-10 gold per round

[vague wind]

im curious how much of this is going to happen each patch

from just someone high profile so much as being tempted to pick a legend they wrote off as bad without playing

[vague wind]

finding some niche use like that

[final glade]

also this zaun item is so insane on jinx

[vague wind]

ya i was wondering if that worked

[final glade]

o it doesnt work on her ability

but her damage is just soooo fucking high with it

[vague wind]

oh...

is that 6

[final glade]

ya but it was insane before it swearsies

[vague wind]

[final glade]

i almost rerolled jinx

but i figured i have to just go 9 bc im playing draven

i mean look at this spot

[vague wind]

ya thats kinda free...

[final glade]

started stage 5 with 0 gold and now im 90 gold, 30 xp into 8

the games are just sooo high roll/accellerated

this guy hit shen 3 im 2 off of urgot/zeri 3 level 9 with 60 gold left

whenever we fight eachother most of both of our boards die and like 20 gold is just sitting on the ground

[vague wind]

lmfao

[final glade]

@vague wind i have a gold border and a gm border in my lobby

[vague wind]

[final glade]

3-2

[slate talon]

Ayo wtf

[final glade]

i think this tft patch is like the worst of all time if you care about a competitive strategic game and all the things that usually make tft a great game
but if u just want to have infinite economy and 3* 4 cost and pretend its a completely 4fun game mode than the patch is kinda good

still fun to be had but its defintely a joke of a patch

5 games in including myself i have seen 37 draven players

[vague wind]

[final glade]

also i had a game where 6 of us stood on stillater hold

if that isnt a reflection of the state of the game..

[slate talon]

I always stand on it to tilt the tf players

[final glade]

gods take me back to when the biggest worries were a guy with 3 lockets or 3 zekes

[vague wind]

[slate talon]

Wait wtf

[fast ocean]

I had that happen every time I played that comp and idk why

So I just stopped playing it

[slate talon]

I just never cash out

T-Hex is a homie for life

[vague wind]

he owned me

lotta good items there...

[final glade]

IVE GONE 4TH WITH GWEN 3 3 TIMES TODAY

[vague wind]

dancin around their frontline doin nothin...

[final glade]

unfortunately i had to play this

this patch is so bad aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

🤓 actually in the lobby i just played 7 people clicked prism spoils and the guy who didnt went 6th so therefore its average placement is actually 4.5 and therefore it is balanced 🤓

no b patch required

[slate talon]

Did they buff it or is everyone just on the new hype train

[vague wind]

buffs and other legend nerfs

[final glade]

mostly the buffs to draven are what matters

[vague wind]

but i also saw maybe 2 dravens all of last patch so maybe it was busted before who knowsd

[final glade]

idk had to be okay i played 1 spoils of war game bc i had a good opener and it felt good

idk if u guys ever played that fortune favors game mode that they added a set or two ago

this is just that but in ranked

[vague wind]

never did

[slate talon]

I did once or twice

[final glade]

crazy bc ezreal is also very good

[vague wind]

all i know is i went 7 on 3-2 and rolled to 0 and was still 50 gold at 4-2

[final glade]

but u just cant play him bc of draven

yep

the draven cashouts scale with ur level btw if u dont know

[vague wind]

made maybe 2 total interest before 3-2

lmao makes sense

[slate talon]

lmaoooo

[final glade]

its just so snowbally man its absurd

[vague wind]

i just had 6 noxus at krugs so i hard pushed levels

[final glade]

they triple prismatic lobby i played i 5 lossed stage 2 killed 1-3 units per fight

still was able to go 7 + 0 on 3-2 and 8 with 20 gold on 4-1

like what the fuck man

[vague wind]

[final glade]

i wonder if they accidentally buffed it by too much honestly

i swear u get more drops than what the % say

im seeing so much cope of like "oh just play poro or ornn and try to farm win streak bc ur up an augment"

and its like bro the draven players get 2 procs and u are no longer up an augment

Riot Mort (3/3) But this also means do NOT expect any B-patches over the course of the patch. 🙅‍♂️❌🛠️ We want to see that natural meta shift as well. 🔄🌍💡 Plus there is Riot Summer Break. ☀️🌴😎 So enjoy the patch, and we’ll continue to prep more changes for 13.14 and beyond. 🎉✨🚀 Thanks all! 🙌💖

[slate talon]

wait that means 4 weeks till next patch

a whole month of this

oh that does make jinx a lot stronger

[fast ocean]

It does ye

Man 4 weeks of draven meta

[final glade]

@vague wind

im addicted..

[fast ocean]

Love Gwen

[final glade]

going for my 3rd 4th with her of the day

3rd 4th with 3* gwen that is

[fast ocean]

Maybe she needed a bigger buff than I thought

[final glade]

ok i think im chilling

[tall whale]

oh

[final glade]

got her a friend

[tall whale]

ive fucked up my game

so badly

these don't go together

[vague wind]

how tf

are u findin this many gwens...

[final glade]

have u not beeing qing up man...

[fast ocean]

Wtf

Gwen and Kaisa 3

[final glade]

u just click spoils of war and play 0 econ and 3* whichever 4 costs every game

[slate talon]

ye she was terrabad before the buff

maybe not big enough I guess

[final glade]

im mostly meming

we are playing urf rn

i think gwen 3 would win in most metas

[fast ocean]

You know what else is not big enough?

[final glade]

but unfortunately most of the time u hit gwen 3 some guy has anotehr 3*

[tall whale]

welp that game doesnt count

[final glade]

this lobby for example

1st is me with gwen kaisa 3, 2nd has azir lux 3, 3rd has aphelios 3

[fast ocean]

That sounds pretty awful idk

[final glade]

yeah its like the worst or second worst patch ive ever played

but for some reason im good at it so im up like 200 lp today

[fast ocean]

Ok so with draven you just level up aggressively?

Go 0 Econ?

[final glade]

anotha one incoming?

[fast ocean]

That’s illegal

[final glade]

yeah u pretty much just constantly try to play teh strongest board u can

dont really want to roll before 6 if it can be helped but u dont need to worry about like leveling off interval

level to 5 on 2-2 if u can, 6 on 2-6 like it doesnt matter just send it

[fast ocean]

Wtf

We going to test a game

[final glade]

bit of a low roll game

[fast ocean]

That’s so illegal idk

[final glade]

unironically not even a highroll game

very slightly above average in this meta its so bad xdd

[tall whale]

do you think for middle aug go for gold or combat

[final glade]

everyone clicks gold in high elo streams so probably that one

ive been clicking good combat ones like gifts of the fallen

i really dont think anything matters xd

always click spoils, always click rolling for days

oh the other clickable augment in the game

also something kinda sad to me about this whole thing

is that i think legends are actually really great for the game especially for casuals

they just gotta tune it so poro is on average the best and then the game is good

[slate talon]

Oh this is actually good?

[tall whale]

azir on 2-3

[final glade]

its insane ya

[vague wind]

@final glade

[final glade]

just bad player tbh

a good tft player who can adapt to the meta knows gwen 3 isnt worth 36 gold

[vague wind]

ive only played 1game and i was infernal contract noxus

had raid

[final glade]

its like such a thing that feeds into itself

draven has his whole snowbally thing but since everyone is playing draven everyones board is wide

so even the losers are killing 3-4 units

[tall whale]

i wanna be 8 by 4-2 should i just go 7 whenever

[final glade]

and then starting on 4-2 everyone is holding their 4 cost of choice and instead of just holding 3 they hold as many as they can find

so more and more 4 costs get out of the pool

u dont need to be 8 on 4-2

[tall whale]

o

[final glade]

u stay 7 until u 2* basically everything on ur board

[tall whale]

that makes sense

[vague wind]

zskarn mentally boomed me too much to queue for a game like tft maybe tomorrow

[tall whale]

looks like im playing a strategist game

[final glade]

respect fuck zskarn

[vague wind]

too many new buttons to press and keep track of ona f ight like that

[final glade]

i tried azir with like strategist 5 shurima and it was so much worse than the like lux version

[vague wind]

i underprepared

[final glade]

yeah i did sark on my evoker that i have like 20 hours played on

it was not an ideal performance

its weird bc i go queue a key and i feel so comfy on evoker already but in raid in general im so overwhelmed by my buttons/doing mechanics

[vague wind]

ya thats basically where im at

will be fine in another week or two just need to get reps

played it a bunch last season in m+ just have been playing more feral lately then made the decision today so

and tft mostly tft

[final glade]

i just know im playing augment which isnt even out yet and new tft set so its like

why bother putting time in getting comfy on dev

[vague wind]

ye

on kaz i was wrong talents til 2s on the pull timer then none of the first 8 buttons i pressed were correct

do that opener plus one button literally every pull in mythic+

[final glade]

[vague wind]

stood ina beam

next week for sure

bring the old patch back

[final glade]

new patch going well 4me

[vague wind]

wonder if theyll cave on no b patch

or if holiday already started

[final glade]

epic..

[slate talon]

[tall whale]

ye this shit is something

[final glade]

its just so funny to think of all my friends who have asked for tips and im like

ya so one of the most basic things is level 6 on 3-2 and level 7 on 4-1

then its just 3-1 and im level 7 every prismatic draven game

[tall whale]

i did this

and was bonkers

[fast ocean]

Yeah ok think that’s enough tft for this patch

[final glade]

yeah if ur not proccing or winning then u cant always do it and its still fine, but if ur proccing then u deff send that

the "skill" of this patch is just playing as high tempo as uc an and throwing out everything u thought u knew

[fast ocean]

God that was so awful lmao

[final glade]

4-2

like nah man...

this lobby had jarvan lux zeri and yasuo 3 on 4-2

lol

[fast ocean]

Disgusting

[final glade]

back to back games kaisa 3, yas 3, + random 3

[slate talon]

3* yas on 4-6

wtf is this game

[final glade]

these 2 guys are stronger than me playing non draven kinda cool

granted its silver draven which kinda sucks and i would sway i lowrolled this game but still

[slate talon]

silver rolling for days or silver spoils both feel ass

[final glade]

idk about that...

[slate talon]

sorry I mean compared to their gold versions

idk maybe just a mental thing

[final glade]

alright well whatever i abused this dogshit patch

yeah they are worse but still both pretty auto clickable

[slate talon]

oh for sure

I still auto click it

but I just cry a lil inside

[fast ocean]

Didn’t play a lot of this set and still stuck in gold

[final glade]

im averaging a 2.8 since clicking draven augments not bad..

[slate talon]

3* shen, kaisa, aphelios and kaisa this game

seems good

[fast ocean]

[fast ocean]

Got my first Kaisa yas and Kalista 3 this game

That shit is so dumb

[vague wind]

grats gamer

[final glade]

ive still been going a bit

[fast ocean]

Abusing smh

[slate talon]

kinda want chibi drx aatrox

but so spenny

[vague wind]

my guildie hit that and teemo in 4 rolls..

[vague wind]

that aint supposed to be how the early morning queue goes...

[vague wind]

alright im running it down til it clicks

do i just not get to play the game wiht a 2 item gold opener

[final glade]

U gotta stay mentally strong and continue to push tempo with bad openers in my experience

I've had games where I kill 0-1 first 3 fights but that does not stop me from slamming levels and shit

Like imo the goal isn't streak or make econ or anything other than push levels and kill units for spoils

[vague wind]

ya thats what ive been doing

2 people just held extra kaisas to deny me 8 challenger belveth and i wanna die

[final glade]

Yeah u actually just have to hit ur board on 4-2 and like asap

[vague wind]

ya i rolled all on 4-2 just didnt get one

[final glade]

Feel like u get pretty rewarded for being decisive/rolling quick

I've deff had games where I have 6-9 of a unit out of the pool with like 20s left

But ya I had a game where I rolled like 100g for kaisa 1 and some guy hit kaisa 3

No skill game gf

[vague wind]

stage 2 feels lottery af too im not diggin this

or rather

the disparity between winstreak and loss streaks so wide i want to die

get gifted 2* or get fucked

[final glade]

That's what everyone been saying but I think in piss low where I am ppl just aren't willing to fully commit to the degenerate acts so even with weak openers I'm able to level so much as to still kill a few units

[vague wind]

idk ive hit a single pair by 2-5 like wahts my gameplan

am i rolling to pair a unit

[final glade]

Just go 6 and stuff will die no pairs needed

I've done small rolls at 6 but I try to hold the line to 7

[vague wind]

we back

[final glade]

o7

Idk if you saw robinsongz last night

He ran down like 500 lp in a 9 hour stream

[vague wind]

yea id say we're abvout the same

3 lobbies ago i got griefed by challies now i get griefed by blue borders...

[final glade]

Now it free to try out infinite tech

The forbidden dragon king technology

[vague wind]

Highroll !!

[final glade]

I swear zeri is still good kinda..

[vague wind]

yea now that shes uncontested its like she's a playable 2* again once you hit 9 of em

[final glade]

I had a 1st with zeri 2 but I may have had a 50 stack dragon on my board

Surely virulent zeri has to be good at least

Which reminds me that that 50 stack dragon game was also 6 Zaun

[vague wind]

wiush i had a dragon

[final glade]

Solid top 4 comp potential to get robbed by 3* 4 costs

[vague wind]

ive killed so few units im gonna be too poor to go 8

[final glade]

That's deff low roll in gold augment but with silver that happens a lot

Can always donkey on 7 instead odds are fine

[vague wind]

its fine nobody takes zeri

i just sit

and hit after everything else is gone

surely

an 8ths not bad

next game for sure

just missed 2-1 cause i didnt get the augment screen

[final glade]

Lmao

My only Stillwater game this patch I went 6th bc I'm boosted by draven

[vague wind]

need to mvoe to china so i can just play set 4 again

gonna bot 4 and i dont even care cause its the first time ive felt like im playing tft in a week

(3/3) But this also means do NOT expect any B-patches over the course of the patch. 🙅‍♂️❌🛠️ We want to see that natural meta shift as well. 🔄🌍💡 Plus there is Riot Summer Break. ☀️🌴😎 So enjoy the patch, and we’ll continue to prep more changes for 13.14 and beyond. 🎉✨🚀 Thanks all! 🙌💖

this used to make me happy

[vague wind]

UPDATE ‼️The balance team is working on a mid-patch update focused on a few Legend Augments. Expect a full change list coming this evening with an update to our official patch notes.📝

[final glade]

My infinite lp hack..

[vague wind]

SEE U ALL NEXT PATCH

[fast ocean]

rip draven abuse

[final glade]

Such a classic tft moment /experience this last 2 days were

Whether by bug or by unexpected change something becomes hilariously broken and extremely abused
People (including me) become upset
They fix it about as immediately as possible

[fast ocean]

I mean if I know it’s only for a day it’s fine

Was kinda fun if it’s not the 3 week meta

[final glade]

I wonder if they'll take community reaction to this and apply it to future "for fun" modes or patches

[fast ocean]

[final glade]

I do kinda wonder if I'm actually good at this kind of meta and if others are actually bad or if I just highrolls no skill meta

Ppl like gogwy and some other friends struggled with it while being better than me at last patch

Robin seemed convinced it still had skill expression but my god it didn't feel like it to me

[fast ocean]

I placed higher too once I understood what to do but ye it feels like the better you are at the normal tft the more you struggle

Bc it’s so counterintuitive to play idk

[final glade]

Reminds me of coaching my friend who has been challenger and is masters rn through a piltover game

And he's like trying to scout and slam items to save hp and shit

And I'm just like no man you gotta trust in how broken this shit is

Milk has talked about it before, you become a lot better at tft when you stop assuming the game is balanced xdd

This patch is the pinnacle of that

Put full faith in the degeneracy and you will be rewarded

[vague wind]

https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/teamfight-tactics-patch-13-13-notes/

[slate talon]

Had a guy hit zeri 3 and if I didn’t have 4 3* 4 costs I might’ve lost

[vague wind]

thts it im 20/20 veigar multicasters

[final glade]

hows this going

[vague wind]

im playing urf ive lost all interest in winning

[slate talon]

[vague wind]

once uve been 0 lp for a little while u remember its kinda a vibe

every sorc or multicaster variations fun maybe i just become a tf player

[slate talon]

I also like invokers

Casting lots is neat

[final glade]

based

something kinda fun about sitting 0lp is sometimes a patch or a streak of games will just click

and then suddenly ur 200 lp and its like oh ok maybe i do actually gain lp

i forgot how great for my mental it is to be in masters though

my god i hate the 100 lp with the like catches and 0 lp demotion stuff in diamond

much rather just have my lp exist as it is 5ths 10 lp, never 25, 8ths -60 or w/e never -2

[vague wind]

ya its comfy

losing some close 5th at 0 lp and gettin the -25 always hurts

im sure im destroying my hidden mmr but w/e who cares im here at the circus playin legend wack a mole might as well enjoy it

if i get a fun spat gg if not bg

alright i forgot about the silver augment thats always a bg im not clicking that

theres 3 urfs in my game huh

[final glade]

i feel like inting mmr does kinda suck but also if ur ever like

good or it clicks and ur climbing like

if u know what ur doing ur gonna climb even if ur onl getting 35 for 1sts and shit

and then eventually u can just snipe a streamer and get giga lp

[final glade]

@vague wind i frogot to swap legend before first game on new patch

decided to run it down on draven post nerfs

VERY BAD

[vague wind]

[final glade]

still went 6th not that bad i guess

really intended to be ezreal

[vague wind]

letting the game give you 2 shadow isles spats does not work out when it will not give you 3 gwens til 70 gold in

am i cut out for the urf insta rip life...

not even 3 i already had 1

[slate talon]

@final glade u reckon ezreal is the new play?

[final glade]

seems good ye

[fast ocean]

Draven nerf live?

[slate talon]

ya

[fast ocean]

So meta change again ig

Azir probably still super strong

[final glade]

@vague wind i think im bad again/draven ruined me

i only know how to play azir board or kaisa yasuo board

and there is 3 players of each not counting me every lobby

i guess its just never level to 8 until 2* everything angle once again

[vague wind]

idk man im gonna neck myself if i go 8 with 50 and cant hit uncontested units 1 more time

have the dreaded piltover spat in a prismatic lobby and still scarily close to winning rounds on 2 scenario goin right now

sitting here wondering how i can possibly get weaker

this 150 hp on a tristana 1 a little too powerful

but comp diversity really took a hit with the zeri nerf which is surprising to me

im assuming itll get better whne people start playing 3 costs again

or just reroll comps in general i havent seen a ton besides a noxus here or there

[final glade]

the kled comp seems good

like not even noxus just kled 4

[vague wind]

it looked really good before patch im not too surprised

do people still pandoras it or just play it if stars align?

26 for a 2nd uh oh

[fast ocean]

[final glade]

think stars a lign

also i just got baited by 2 friends to try this gwen 4 shadow isles line

its literally just so bad man i dont get it

just play gwen 2 kalista 2 and play any other board

[slate talon]

is gwen even good

[fast ocean]

Blake says no but I like her

[slate talon]

I like u

[fast ocean]

[vague wind]

she's good some fights then other ones she'll dash across the backline refusing to finish off a single unit

Feels like a "playable with enough combat augments to cross a certain threshold" champ

6 shadow felt powerful tho if I 2starred either of my spat challenger carries I woulda been popping off

[fast ocean]

I mostly used here with tf so I could itemize here and it felt quite strong but I suck at TFT so take my opinion with a grain of salt

[vague wind]

ive seen it get splashed as a "well you hit it on your rolldown" a lot on streams its just insanely hard to ever justify playing maokai viego stage 4/5 for 4 shadow

[fast ocean]

ok seems like meta didnt change atleast

[final glade]

the rolling for days part is fake

i mean idk what tf a lot of those comps are at the top

yasuo kaisa, azir lux are definitely teh 2 bis comps with a bunch of other fringe viable stuff

[fast ocean]

Probably skewed bc people didn’t adjust yet

So just normal yasuo kaisa is the play probably

Back to tf legend maybe

yeah still shows draven eventho its the b patch selected

[final glade]

default best legend is ezreal

hes not as brain dead only click his augments though

hes just good bc his augments are "solid" so u dont really mind having to click them

[slate talon]

I really like his items giving hp one

very solid

thoughts on the combat based ones

like the yi, veigar, vlad type legends

[fast ocean]

gonna try ezreal

[slate talon]

b patch isn't clicking for me

[fast ocean]

scary round

well that didnt work out

unlucky 5.

[final glade]

yeah that augment has not seemed good to me

it has potential probably

[slate talon]

Ye just not in my hands

think my biggest weakness in tft is early board strength

I just dunno whats strong and whats not

[final glade]

Usually just whatever u 2* unless it's Kayle

[slate talon]

rip Kayle

[slate talon]

maybe I'm a yi player now

think I just take good combat augments and hope for the best

[fast ocean]

yes thanks game exactly what I wanted

[slate talon]

[final glade]

pretty crazy board/synergies

[slate talon]

Goddamn

Tried yi got 3rd combat augments are neat might stick with it tbh

[fast ocean]

I like ezreal

But getting only shit items kinda sucks

[final glade]

my god im kind of a beast...

[slate talon]

I don’t wanna see mine

[final glade]

also ngl i think those components u sent are actually pretty good/there is plenty to do with them

[fast ocean]

yeah it worked out

[slate talon]

Ye I ran down like 100lp but it’s starting to click

[final glade]

like i cant see ur units which changes things but i'd probably lean AP and go like
shiv (tear+bow), vow (tear+vest), dclaw (cloak+cloak), hoj (tear+glove), then play around glove but alternatively there is like
shiv (tear+bow), vow (tear+vest), tg (glove glove), cone (tear + cloak), play around cloak

or i guess if u really want to lean AD it could be like
hoj hoj titans dclaw or something

i kinda hate leaning into azir rn bc its so contested but the nice thing is u can just use azir items on kaisa which is also very contested but yk...

[fast ocean]

Azir seems so strong

[final glade]

ye 100% best comp in the game

[fast ocean]

this 8 void guy will get killed by azir late

[final glade]

but ofc thats a bit offset by it being contested and harder to hit

i do think the kled 4 comp is actually extremely strong

[slate talon]

I see so many aphelios’s now on roll downs

[final glade]

i suspect a capped azir board has the damage to burst him down but maybe not tbh

[fast ocean]

love that one tho

[final glade]

the classic aphelios frejlord comp is still decent

[slate talon]

Ye it’s so uncontested now

Even sej prio gone down heaps

[final glade]

https://www.tfthandbook.com/comp-list nice little thing that stays pretty up to date

[fast ocean]

that lobby was actually wild

ksante 2 7th

[final glade]

best way to be up to date on tft is watching twitch streams but robins guide isnt too much worse

dude something kinda funny about ksante that i see so many people including myself fall prey to

[fast ocean]

oh nice

[final glade]

is like if the rest of ur frontline isnt really good when he dips out it often results in teh enemy melee just very quickly getting to ur backline

like this azir guy teched in ksante and moved his items and then my yasuo was like oh sweet free backline access

another thing ive done a bunch is put ksante on same side as my ranged carry and then it makes my ranged carry walk up to stay in range

o also big thing in that guide that i agree with a lot

is building yasuo as more of like a 1 shot guy with eon + db +ie (or w/e) rather than going for like bt titans qss type vibes

the tankier version is still good for sure but ya

[fast ocean]

Sounds pretty clever

Can get lucky and oneshot the carry

[final glade]

eon is definitely required if u want to build him damagey, if no eon ur better off going for tanky stuff

ya usually if u put yasuo like middle ish he will ult to behind enemies side tanks and then ult after that will either be 100% corner or 50% corner

and db ie yasuo will 1 shot that corner unless it haslike zhonyas

sometimes ur frontline does die to fast and yasuo dies though

[fast ocean]

I never tried 6 Ionia

Maybe I’ll do that

With ezreal?

[final glade]

ezreal is generically best but i think a bunch of stuff is fine

ionia is i guess a bit better than say azir with ezreal since it can use AD/AP/Tank items

im a decently big fan of ionia feels so flexible with spatulas and things u hit

[fast ocean]

What’s typical Ionia opener tho ?

[final glade]

soju is bitching about how bad orianna is and says "man who is the worst unit in tft history that just does absolutely nothing.. wait its probably kayle huh"

couple variations but like "best cases" are like
irelia, ww, sett, jhin or karma
irelia, samira + whatever,
irelia, samira, kalista, ww

[slate talon]

Ionia spat pretty cool too

[final glade]

yeah i like it on kalista a lot

im a pretty big hater of it on kaisa though

[slate talon]

Is it new that it gives attack speed Ionia trait

[fast ocean]

Why that?

[final glade]

nah since pbe

idk it just feels like she attacks infinitely fast then casts and does 0 fuckin dam

[slate talon]

I didn’t realise till today Ionia spat actually gave an effect

[final glade]

like list of items id rather have on kaisa over ionia is like...
jg bt hoj guard breaker morello shiv dcap giantslayer gunblade

maybe thats it..

but all those items are really good and ionia is also really good and robinsongz is like

an extreme amount better than me at tft

and he says ionia kaisa good so

[fast ocean]

Do I need Ionia spar for it?

Or just put jhin in till the end?

[final glade]

nah u can just play
yasuo shen irelia sett karma +jhin/ahri kaisa kalista/ww

but i kinda prefer to drop to 3 ionia without ionia spat

and then its like yasuo shen irelia, kalista kaisa, +2 flex gwen/jarvan/frejlord/whateverthefuck

[slate talon]

Does he run it over rageblade or? Can’t imagine you can fit both on and have her ability do anything

[final glade]

i think most ppl think rageblade isnt that good on kaisa

like if u have a rageblade its probably better on kalista 2

[fast ocean]

yeah the classic yas kaisa I've been playing

I stopped giving rb to kaisa

just did at the start of the set

[final glade]

ye i dunno to me that comp seems better but ionia is deff good do

[slate talon]

I like Ionia

Very neat

[fast ocean]

i like you

very neat

[slate talon]

You’re very cute

[final glade]

im ngl i still dont even really know how hte trait works

[slate talon]

Neither but all the effects on the champs seem good

[final glade]

its just like

so if u have ionia 3 in

does jhin just always have +30 ad

and theng ets another +30 when enlightened

or does he gain 60 when enlightened but has 0 normally

i dont really know..

(i have like 50 ionia games at least)

[slate talon]

I think it’s this

[final glade]

seems kinda op..

butyeah me too i feel like my no heal item yasuo is always healing so

what in the fuck is this prismatic LOL

[fast ocean]

Yeah had that too yesterday

[slate talon]

[final glade]

the more i think about it

almost all the double item items are really good

but like... what if u get dcap and ur playing ad or something..

i guess they are all usable in ionia...

im pretty sure its bad still

[slate talon]

Is it strong enough for a prismatic tho

[fast ocean]

Don’t think so

[slate talon]

Feels kinda on the weak side

[final glade]

it should be 3 items probably

like the item package prismatics are actually situationally really good

but part of what makes them so good is you know you get to look at ur board and be like ya i need dammies or ya give me tank package

[slate talon]

Yeah this one just feels worse than most of the item package augments

[fast ocean]

AP it is

[slate talon]

What even is the ap angle

I kinda like karma

[fast ocean]

dcap for kaisa and morrelo for kaisa

[final glade]

AP angle is kaisa

karma or kalista holds

[slate talon]

Ah true

[fast ocean]

2 ahri before my first kaisa on 7

[final glade]

[slate talon]

Is Ahri actually good

[final glade]

ye with items/ionia/good frontline and what not

[fast ocean]

yeah didnt work out

7th place bc I didnt hit anything else

[slate talon]

The 5 costs weird me out

Some just seem so flexi and good wherever

And others are so niche

[fast ocean]

I am actually so dumb I have no idea how to go from here

I need step by step guides

[fast ocean]

worked out okish - got to 9 with 6 ionia and 6 challenger

[slate talon]

Hm wonder if Asol is on the cards

[tall whale]

the greediest game ever

cashed out my golden egg + 35 power piltover

5 strategist 6 sorc

[slate talon]

That is dirty

[final glade]

4/5 strategist AP is just so insane

why even bother playing actual vertical sorcs when u can just give them the same AP with strategist xd

[fast ocean]

guess it is decided what we play this round

got azir on 2-6 it was fate

[tall whale]

lux just feels so pog

[slate talon]

this is actually goated ty

[fast ocean]

No u

[slate talon]

[final glade]

Interesting

[slate talon]

I kinda miss the very first carousel

[final glade]

retweet

being able to have some component(s) you liked starting with to kind of set the direction of ur game was such vibes

[slate talon]

ye that was my exact thought this game

[final glade]

i think generally theyve done a decent job of AP/AD still being playable even if u get a lot of the "wrong" component

something kinda tilted to me rn though is when i get an opener where 2 of my 3 components are rod + vest

[slate talon]

ye I feel that

[slate talon]

agree with this tho seems playable but just not a vibe

[final glade]

was playing a game just now sent it to 8 with 25 gold and was kinda dizzy

randomly hit belveth 2 in 2 shops

wp by me

i legit was bot 4ing probably 70% of the time

and then i just randomly belveth 2 3 items and i go 1st

https://twitter.com/Dishsoaptft/status/1675037375058124800?s=20

man this guy tweeted this and im like okay let me check his match history maybe there is some TECH

then i look and hes just azir/yasuo/noxus every game no tech to be found here..

[slate talon]

what a tweet given his match history

[final glade]

https://twitter.com/Dishsoaptft/status/1675061597532823552?s=20 fair enough

ive definitely had a few games with some succes where im randomly playing azir board but with kaisa 2 instead of either azir or lux bc i just happened to hit it

[slate talon]

ok we makin some progress after some incidents after the draven hotfix

[fast ocean]

Gamer

[cosmic linden]

i just installed some app to do setups for me

[slate talon]

mfw all 3 are on robins insta pick list

[vague wind]

marhc got nerfed

[slate talon]

fuck

I picked that one

[vague wind]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1860506408?t=3h20m36s

[slate talon]

got 1st anyway

[vague wind]

[final glade]

woo

[slate talon]

Gratz

[cosmic linden]

Gz

[tall whale]

is the legend meta ezreal now or back to poro?

[slate talon]

I'm kinda fuckin with veigar

[slate talon]

but this is from the robin handbook

[tall whale]

oh i didnt realise he had more tahn comps

[final glade]

ezreal is deff the best generic

i think the best "thoughtless" legend is probably vlad

eh idk really no legend is it correct to just brain dead click their augment every time

vlad is the closest but ye no matter who u play u gotta kinda think about augments

[final glade]

man ive never wanted to add someone to friends to shit talk so much before in my tft career

im 2-1 n oxus spat and this guy decides to force zed says me zed on 2-1

im like okay whatevs he'll take kleds and then just go slayer/rogues maybe he takes 3 kats all good

decides to just go for kat/darius 3 despite me being in lobby and hes lose streaking vs me 100 hp streaking to 4-2

so he just has no econ compared to me basically no hope of hitting these things that he doesnt even have to play towards for his comp

just forces htem anyways, i cant 3* anything forces me 3rd like wtf man...

actually just lowered both of our placements that game for literally no reason i just dont get it

[fast ocean]

classic

[final glade]

o well at least i placed higher and i got to be the one to kill him

check his lolchess and hes just braindead been forcing that comp the past 10 games

suicidal idiot in my lobby and i didnt know

[final glade]

ok i feel kinda bad about this

7th and 8th were committed shurima line from 2-1 with their augment

i was so heavy leaning yasuo that i even clicked challenger heart

but then my 7 roll down just gave me the azir comp

[vague wind]

my fuck it I'll play reroll zed 6ths are -30 it's gonna be a long grind

[final glade]

I'm at the range where I can luck into challenger lobbies now

+11 for a 4th earlier 📈

@vague wind also im officially so deep in the tft brain rot that i just walked around my house saying "alright is breakfast before shower or after shower bis here"

[vague wind]

giant grab bag will give me direction

[slate talon]

Invoker angle

[tall whale]

ryze angle

[vague wind]

i had a noxus + noxus augment opener and was trying tod ecide between kled and darius

[vague wind]

losing 42 lp cause someone with 8 slammable components decided to full open when you had a 20 gold component start and he rolls it to 0 on 3-5 to hit the units youve naturalled 2/3 of yet somehow you dont see any more of them on stage 4 up 30 gold at krugs

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

guess i shouldve pivoted with ap items into the other 4cost carries i saw like uhhh zeri....a

[fast ocean]

god it hurts so much to not find the last kaisa

[vague wind]

hes not posting that cause the games already over

[fast ocean]

surely not

still got first but it did hurt

[vague wind]

thats a 5th maybe im just wher ei belong

[slate talon]

lost to a 3* aatrox

[fast ocean]

this dude loves attack speed

did I miss sth?

[vague wind]

thats powerful tech

just bitch and youll get a belveth 2 with ionia spat before hitting either kaisa shen or yasuo 2

surely thats deserved and not my bot 4s

[vague wind]

[fast ocean]

[vague wind]

thats legit like 30 games a day

[fast ocean]

that doesnt sound healthy

[cosmic linden]

this is what im playing

[cosmic linden]

[fast ocean]

classic

[final glade]

@vague wind decided to try to last minute push 100 lp for tourney

for w/e reason decided to get quirky/creative in my first 2 games which immediately killed my hopes

just gotta stick to the script... no fun allowed... i should know this by now..

[vague wind]

whats the snapshot cutoff

[final glade]

was like 360 earlier

im only 240 after those games and i dont have time for any more games today

[vague wind]

[final glade]

i think im probably good enough skill wise to have made tourney but i didnt really put in the work/sweat enough and thats acceptable

im just happy to feel comfy ish in gm rn with hopes of being challenger soon

[fast ocean]

Grim

[final glade]

The most important lesson to being good at tft

[fast ocean]

Yeah it’s awful tho

[vague wind]

3 weeks of this sounds awful tbh

hope china figures something out come monday

[fast ocean]

I already kinda dislike the meta

[final glade]

Cutoff ended I'm glad I didn't try for it XD

417 kinda brutal

I'm also pretty fine with this meta idk

Kinda just feels close enough to normal tft or at least what I was used to from set 7.5

Needs like 1.5 more meta comps to be a great patch but it's good enough for me

[slate talon]

some of the 5 costs still feel a bit underwhelming to me

[final glade]

I think just aatrox for me

[tall whale]

that one person voting for stillwater

woulda been hilarious if it hit

[vague wind]

I don't mind anything about the patch besides how narrow the lines are

which is why I'm hoping china getting on the patch breaks it open

[final glade]

was reading comp tft subreddit just now and there is like 3 threads about how the meta is all about rolling on 7 and going 8 is pointless bla bla

[vague wind]

playing 4cost lottery half your games and waiting for the people that rolled it down on 3-5 and took 2 of each to die out so you can finish your pivot the other half is kinda borin

[final glade]

some thoughts about this
1 being it is absolutely better to play ionia/azirlux on 8 like ur odds to hit are better, u can fit extra traits that actually matter a ton (not saying its not right to roll on 7, but like if u can go to 8 u absolutely do, this thread in particular is like "whats the point of going 8", and some d4 guy shit talks his friend for trying to go 8, meanwhile i try to go 8 every game i can

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveTFT/comments/14p48lo/is_it_just_me_or_is_there_absolutely_no_reward_in/

[vague wind]

ya 8s actually insane for synergies idk what they're talking about

[final glade]

okay and then second thought is like how do these people who are admittedly hard stuck plat or diamond not realize like if you are hard stuck then that means ur read on the meta is wrong (most likely)

and then third thought is