Teamfight Tactics

[cosmic linden]

[tall whale]

tft is pretty flexible for ranks

[final glade]

and with yone u want to be 6 with 50 gold on 3-2 and with olaf 7 with 50 gold on 4-1

as general rules

and then u just want to roll ur excess above 50

[tall whale]

like i was getting 6-7 diamonds at plat it hardly matters most of hte time

[cosmic linden]

"roll on 6" what do u mean by this exacly?...

[tall whale]

till you get smurfs

[final glade]

roll while being levl 6

[cosmic linden]

ah

So save up and reroll like a madlad at 6

[final glade]

reroll like a calm lad bc u want to stay above 50

[cosmic linden]

why is tft so complicated

[final glade]

bc thats the fun

[cosmic linden]

but its hard to learn

[final glade]

indeed

[cosmic linden]

almost harder than league itself

[tall whale]

you think it's complicated now wait till you get to blake's level

[final glade]

well also kinda not really low key

i had a friend who started playing in set 6.0

and he hit masters in 6.5

[tall whale]

did he yolo or full learn?

[final glade]

watched a lot of streams read competitive tft a lot

really tried to get good

[tall whale]

pog

[final glade]

also hung out with me in discord a lot though at the time i was peak diamond 1

he hit masters before i did but ofc when he started i knew way more than him

[cosmic linden]

got a large rod already

[final glade]

oh yeah but also on the fast 9 dragons thing i just think its a result of dragons being the way they are and the set kinda feeling solved, basically dont think its fixable at all

just kinda is what it is and i dont hate the meta at all personally but it is kinda sad to see the set end up resulting in this to me

i will be glad when set 8 arrives

also this is kinda funny

[cosmic linden]

set = new units?..

[final glade]

indeed

[cosmic linden]

what does set means XD

[final glade]

will be almost entirely new units and new synergies

[cosmic linden]

ah

[final glade]

there might be some guys sticking around with different versions

like they have lee sin with his r right now from league, but there might be a lee sin with his q from league

its ok though learning the units and stuff everyone has to go through and only takes a few days, the tft basics stick around

[cosmic linden]

Got my rageblade now

[final glade]

like if u learn how to properly play a 2 cost reroll comp this set, that knowledge will help u for next set too

[tall whale]

@final glade in ur opinion whats the best comp to counter fast 9 dragons

[cosmic linden]

i also tend to put last whisper on my dps units if there isa tank

[final glade]

hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahaha

[tall whale]

[final glade]

i mean really there just isnt one

[tall whale]

only time i've beaten dragons is when they don't hit 2 aoshin

[final glade]

shrouds and zephyrs are extremely effective, guild can be better but ultimately if ur trying to win the game its gonna be a fight on 6-3,6-4,6-5 and if u aren't 2-4 dragons on ur board by that point then ur fucked

i have so many games that look liek this

[slate talon]

did u see they nerfed ao shin and terra to try and help it

[final glade]

and its like is this a daeja game or a dragons game

u tell me bc i cant fuckin tell

oh yeah but it jus doesn't matter

i mean its already true that if u hit a weak fast 9 into dragons board u might bleed out and die

[slate talon]

yeah I beat a 2* ao shin with the power of zephyr cuz they were low hp and I only needed 1 dub to get 1st

[final glade]

when the guy has upgraded terra, aoshin, asol or shyv

unless ur also super strong half the time ur board is dead or mostly dead before the aoshin even casts

oh but also if idas item is determined investor then thats like a psuedo counter to dragons but like that item takes 8 turns to come online so...

[tall whale]

sohm feels so bad into dragons

[final glade]

like this board i have 4 mystic and diamond hands

[slate talon]

sohm feels bad in general imo

[tall whale]

idk if i was just playing lagoon badly or what but god damm

next game i hit nilah 3 that was pog tho

[final glade]

oh i think lagoon can actually beat 9 dragons but again its like...

yeah..

but basically its just u hope the guy is too stupid to corner and u make ur nilah with 3 items jump the aoshin

[cosmic linden]

it kinda benefit to lose early

to get the items u want early?

in the middle pit hting

[final glade]

but if he corners, builds zzrot, or edge of night, has guild then ggs

[slate talon]

I tried the seraphine comp but didn't have much success only 1 game tho so small sample size

[final glade]

oh that comps bad

idk why they are nerfing it

i mean its like ok its like any comp, good augments hit stuff well its a top 4able comp but ye i think its pretty unreliable to hit and not that strong even if ud o

[final glade]

2 benefits related to losing

1 is u get item u want 2 is streaking

[cosmic linden]

aye

[final glade]

u get more gold from losing 5 rounds in a row then u do from going win lose win lose win

[tall whale]

seraphine nerfs felt so bad

imo

[final glade]

oh i mean she really really needed the 100>70 nerf on 3*

but the 70>65 seems unnecessary

[tall whale]

mainly the range nerf

[slate talon]

the ultimate art of tft is lose streaking but having it be close losses every round

[final glade]

dude last patch

was so fucking bad for that

at least in higher rank literally everyone was just playing lose streak astrals

[tall whale]

ye dw same in plat/dia lobbies

[final glade]

so u had to actually full open sometimes or play only 1*s to hope to keep ur lose streak

[tall whale]

felt really bad when ur 2* vlad would win

[final glade]

i really dont understand why streak gold happens on neutrals

think its so bad for the game but probably 99.9% of people dont even know it works like that

its just like say u 4 loss and then win the round before krugs

that 1 win made u 1 gold and cost u fuckin 5 gold

huh...

[tall whale]

idk what the term is but how bad is ping ponging win loss to maintain hp in higher rank?

[cosmic linden]

i see bunch of ppl running zac

[slate talon]

worst feeling in the world

[final glade]

oh like

ok so if u dont streak it can be fine bc u could just have like shimmer in or lagoon or astrals or w/e and ur chilling and not behind in econ curve

but then the way the game kinda works is if ur behind in econ curve it just means u have to go "in" earlier meaning either lower level or less gold

so then like then it really depejnds on what comps are good

if there is a comp like whispers zyra which is really good to roll for on 7 then fucking up ur streak and being behind in econ doesn't really matter u can still top 4

so current meta i think if ur behind on econ but its a good mirage.. not a huge deal roll on 3-5 or 4-1 hit 1 daeja you'll be ok
iif its a bad mirage just ff to save time

if i'm behind and i know its a good shimmer item sometimes i just roll it to 0 on 6(on 3-2) to make a stable board with 3 shimmer in

[tall whale]

when servers up im 100% playing a meme zac carry build in norms

cool to see buffs to non mage nomsy

[final glade]

4 guardian ezreal reroll

[tall whale]

that voli buff isn't that really good

[cosmic linden]

almost got gold braum now

[final glade]

yeah i was bitching about it

[tall whale]

like if you hit the ap shimmer it seems really good early on him

[final glade]

voli is already boarderline too strong

[tall whale]

i was earning so much gold for econ with that item

[final glade]

but dm is getting buffed and hes getting buffed

[tall whale]

early dm buff

[slate talon]

I'm doing a bonkey kong meme comp for sure

[tall whale]

wonder why they doing this

[final glade]

early voli or especially voli 2 is enough to go 9 on live so ye

yeah im not sure

[tall whale]

ye i had 2 voli with 3 shimmer just hard carry my econ for fast 9 one game was crazy

[final glade]

its kind of a buff

but then titan's is just not really great on any of the darkflight units

[tall whale]

i really dont wanna watch the vid guess i wait for patch notes

was 8 DF really that strong?

assassin 4 buffs

[final glade]

probably wins most lobbies

or idk goes second

4 sin buffs i think are just in reaction to people playing darkflight and running 3 rengars over 4 sin

[tall whale]

oh TIL didn't know that portable forge's IE was that good

[final glade]

infinity force u mean?

[tall whale]

i usually took the forge and IE if the others wern't favourable but didnt know it was

oh ye

tired soz

cat woke me up at 3am

[final glade]

kinda depends i guess on what units are good

units like daeja or ezreal are insanely broken with that item bc they use every stat

portable forge 2-1 is just a bit broken though

[tall whale]

i think once i hit diamond ima actually learn more shit about tft

wanna improve my positioning skills

[cosmic linden]

ended up in 6th

[final glade]

something kinda crazy that i felt when i played like 10 games through eu diamond

i would have thought and you might think the things people in diamond are bad at is like.. kind of complicated

like positioning or econing or something like that

i saw infinite people just playing with bad "extra" units and bad items

[cosmic linden]

not getting any items i need atm

[final glade]

which to me would be really basic

[tall whale]

i think econing my skills are decent for my level but positioning outside predicintg zephers is really average

atleast this set imo extra units are easy to know which to use

[final glade]

like ppl playing darkflight and then running 4 sin instead of 3 rengars or playing lagoon hitting level 9 and playing 7 mage instead of just 2 zoes + bard

[slate talon]

@low notch when u gonna play tft

[cosmic linden]

JUST GIVE ME MY FUCKING

YONE

I NEED 1

[low notch]

idk. im still interested in it, but it i havent had time

learning curve seems fairly high and i dont have time to commit to that atm

[slate talon]

Fair

[tall whale]

tried to play 2 norms today and both games people were playing zac+kaisa when i was hard forcing that

[slate talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNLobtfKJMo what a disgusting high roll

[final glade]

deathcap on a dragonmancer

🤢

[final glade]

playing first game trying that ezreal reroll comp i mentioned a few days ago

going quite well

72 hp with last stand still lol

[final glade]

[slate talon]

If you had axiom, jewelled lotus and thrill of the hunt what would you have built

[final glade]

ie hoj gs probs

[slate talon]

Ah so hoj instead of rabadons

[final glade]

rabaddons just doesnt make much sense on a unit thats already getting like +300 AP

u want more multiplers like crit dmg or gs rather than flat AP

[slate talon]

Still would’ve won if it wasn’t for the shimmer scale gamer

[final glade]

that ezreal reroll comp i was theorizing is seeming kinda decent in the games im playing of it

not really entirely convinced its a good comp and havent even gotten a 1st with it but pretty good placements so far

1 2nd was to a jayce 3 and the other 2nd was to a terra 3

kinda

earliest i hit ezreal 3 in any of those games was 4-1 as well so not exactly had a high roll one yet

[final glade]

we've acquired a 1st with it

https://streamable.com/nqvvcg fun little clip of my boy tearing apart a jade whispers team

[final glade]

@ripe delta

[ripe delta]

[final glade]

🫡

[ripe delta]

moved to the superior region

[final glade]

needed an excuse to smurf and try out some stuff

man people on euw be like "yo this guy has vlad 2 on 2-1 let me blue ping that"

[tall whale]

Tear opener for ez comp? @final glade

[final glade]

ye

blue is omega mandatory

[tall whale]

Been a while since ive played a reroll comp, do you open fort or try win streak? And what stage do you roll down?

I tried to play but really inted just not rolling down early enough i think

That or i didnt try to econ harder

[final glade]

usually open stage 2 since u cant buy xp anyways, stage 3 depends on how much you've hit

probably most commonly win loss in stage 3

u slow roll until 4-1 then roll down if u havent hit yet

think most of my games ive been 50-70 hp going into 4-1 but past 2 games ive been 30

currently trying forcing it in a prismatic lobby which i was assuming would be a mistake and have pretty much confirmed that

[tall whale]

Yeah i tried in two games the first was a prismatic and regretted it but the second wasnt as bad

[final glade]

i mean really in theory 1 cost reroll comps should never be hard forced

but i've had 2 games now where i dont even have 1 ezreal until krugs lol

more i play this im becoming skeptical twitch does anything once ezreal has blue

man i am 100000% convinced that lagoon is the most bugged set of units ever

i dont understand how some games the exact same lagoon board will just go hard bot 4 and then others faker himself is piloting zoe sohm and nilah

[final glade]

ok blueprint to climb this patch

start tear, slam blue asap
reroll ezreal or kaisa depending on what ur naturaling more of

kaisa comp is roll on 6, level 6 board is zac, kaisa, malph, voli, jax, nasus
final board is 6 dm and some random bull shit (switch to 6 dm on kaisa 3 or at least 4 dm)

ezreal comp is roll on 5, board is ezreal, nasus, leona, braum, zac
final board is add in tempest and yasuo and some random extra unit (twitch, rakan if can make 6 guardian)
both comps u stop rolling when u hit ezreal/kaisa but u hold the 2 costs to try to 2* in kaisa comp and hold anything ur hitting with ezreal

[tall whale]

damm kaisa is kinda nuts

2* kaisa alone is melting

[final glade]

o ya also like sneaky requirement for both these comps that might be super intuitive is that ionic spark or shiv is like omega bis

i'm not even 100% sure i'd prioritize spell crit over ionic spark

im not super sure how to pilot the kaisa reroll well but i know in china its considered the best comp on this patch

as of right now i think ezreal reroll can cap out and beat just about any board, and it seems pretty intuitive to me after like 10 games when i can go 9 and when im stuck at 8

the game of kaisa i played i think i probably rolled too deep so was never able to go to 9 and then ended up losing to an aoshin guy

but yeah the meta strat in the west from last patch was just play the kaisa board i said but dont roll and take it to 9 then go typical dragons

ppl are saying kaisa caps harder than dragons though

[tall whale]

im at a crossroad ... @final glade

so many hit kaisa early aswell nvm

already 3 other boards with her

[final glade]

oh i mean its kinda w/e

u slowroll kaisa anyways and usually people dont buy more than 3

i honestly dont really know what would make me lean kaisa or ezreal more xd

[tall whale]

im so downbad

just had a 8th

[final glade]

[slate talon]

I still don’t understand how sohm either murders ur entire board or does nothing

With the same items

[final glade]

bro my first 5th as ezreal

er wait maybe this was a 4th

but i lost like 54 hp to a sohm player in 3 fights between 5-1 and 6-2

literally faker was logged in controlling his zoe and nilah idk man

the other unit thats kinda related to that though in a way that is clearly working as intended

is teh fucking syfens who have phds

[low notch]

is there a specific client i need to get this from or is it a standalone application

[final glade]

its in league client

[low notch]

ok will do

[final glade]

pretty wild game

hit 2 spatulas off dravens axe, 1 off wolves, 1 off carousel

so im just 9 dragons in a non prismatic lobby

[slate talon]

Wtf

[final glade]

oops 6 dragons i meant

oh yeah and late game specialist to top it off bc why not

oh and a neekos! bc this game is balanced

[slate talon]

Late game specialist op

I feel like that augment is pretty free top 4

[final glade]

oh idk its good if ur already in a spot to fast 9

win harder augment

but ye that game was disgusting

6 dragons in a non prismatic lobby is a bit illegal

[tall whale]

6 dragons user in one of my games went 6th

lost like 150LP yesterday

actually was so downbad and tilted

[tall whale]

@final glade do you have any insight why soju prios bow the highest?

my thoughts are since he values xayah/deaja but wouldn't BF be more flexible?

[tall whale]

we back to play 1 no longer inting

[final glade]

Never sword don't use enough of them

Probably just really values guinsoos for early/mid and extra bows are always usable + soju like going mostly uncontested component

[final glade]

o also @slate talon as u can see from soju read on meta he thinks the graves/seraphine comp is still good

[slate talon]

interesting

[final glade]

https://streamable.com/hzjo5p

[slate talon]

mr 100 game

[final glade]

i was actually 100 hp until 5-1 that game

but hard ecod to go 9 with like 80 gold

also that was a 700 lp ~ euw game

and i was losing to that guys board if i didnt hit soraka so

[final glade]

decent dragon soul spot lOL

[tall whale]

so close

[tall whale]

three firsts in a row

wait jk i had a third inbetween

me seraphine enjoyer

no one contests it

me reroll me no pivot

[final glade]

pog grats

[slate talon]

gratz!

I tried Daeja cuz I figured no one would contest

but felt so week

[final glade]

daeja kinda complicated

[final glade]

high tide lagoon spat aoshin

[slate talon]

[tall whale]

I really dislike how big sera 3* feels vs 2*

Love the comp but if i dont hit sera 3* quick enough i feel like i just bleed to much hp

[slate talon]

yeah sera 3 is mandatory if u even want a chance at top 4

[tall whale]

Ye had a game just then where i hit 3* soo late it felt real rough

[final glade]

oh im pretty sure its stable on sera 2 graves 2 panth 2

but ye i generally sera3 is the wincon

and i do agree that the balance of it is very bad

i need to play teh comp more though

this guy in NA lcq tourney today played it 6/6 games and averaged a 2.5

[tall whale]

tbf im i dont prio 3 items on sera so that might have been also a int

[final glade]

dont think prioritzing her items is correct

[tall whale]

i try go shojin > zekes > graves item i think maybe i should prio zekes first idk?

[final glade]

feel like its probably morello>graves items> zekes or somethign but idk would need to learnt he comp more myself

[final glade]

@tall whale so ive played approximately 3 games of seraphine graves and watched some NA tourney where it was played a lot

[tall whale]

pog

[final glade]

something that i think makes this comp pretty hard to play in comparison to most reroll comps or 3 cost carry comps is how often u have to roll below 50 to stabilize

[tall whale]

i felt that with not hitting sera 3 but also im bad so like ???

also not hitting graves 2 felt pre bad

[final glade]

to me it just feels like a lot of needing to scout ur lobby/undertand how strong u to know whether u can greed gold or know to roll deeper

like on 4-1 u have to pretty much roll for graves1, panth1, sera 2, zac2, rak1, zeri 2

but i dont think theres really a blueprint for it, i mean maybe there is but ye first impressions is that this comp is pretty hard

think u can roll for it on 7 if ur in a bad spot though which is nice but ye it always the most played comp at most recent tourney and did quite well

[tall whale]

its really fun imo to play

[final glade]

https://streamable.com/dmc43f

[tall whale]

https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1584698046121926656?t=eha_GIvgWoUPc2S6OWMtLw&s=19

Riot Mort (@Mortdog)

(1/3) To give everyone as much notice as possible, here is what you can expect. A few nerfs to some comps that are over performing, but also two changes worth discussing.

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Twitter · Oct 25, 2022, 12:07 AM

No level up or high end shopping for worlds

[slate talon]

lol

[slate talon]

ok I'm pool party enjoyer now

seraphine comp treating me well

[final glade]

its a good comp but ye i just find it so hard to play hard to see this channel now with all the faqs

[cosmic linden]

[slate talon]

idk what it is about seraphine comp

but I find it so fun to play

[tall whale]

this masters player got queued in a higher hyper roll game than his like 1200 score he said this matchmaking sucks then went 6th

a bronze player went better than him lmao

[final glade]

i did hyper roll to like 3k one time and every other game ppl would get mad at me for border

[slate talon]

prismatic scoped weapons = force yone = wtf is this comp

got it on 2-1

forced yone

disgustang

[slate talon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeamfightTactics/comments/yha6gb/just_gained_450_lp_and_hit_grandmaster_in_na_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[final glade]

honestly if ive learned anything from being high rank

is that randomly some dog shit comp will work 20 games in a row for me and then never work again

so for that reason i dont trust that guide much

shout out that time i played jade zippy and somehow gained 200 lp

[slate talon]

Lol true

[final glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqOVe-VIXXg

[slate talon]

spoilers

lets goo

[slate talon]

monsters attack does sound like the name of a short story you'd write in primary school tho lmao

[final glade]

yeah ngl though i remember like nearly 0 of teh tft set names

[slate talon]

yeah same

I just thought it was funny

[final glade]

also there wasnt even that many monsters

but i guess the concept is like

ur playing the heroes fighting the monsters, not a monster centric set

[slate talon]

more importantly

return of

me mech no scout no pivot

[final glade]

ye im excited to play some old stuff now that im better at the game especially

should be cool

[vague wind]

mech without dwarf planet

[final glade]

what did dwarf planet do i kinda forgot

[vague wind]

2 rows

made gangplank and mech real fun

[slate talon]

oh shit Rammus is here

[vague wind]

wait

3 rows not 2

[final glade]

o ok

previous sets i only played like 20-100 games and all in the first few weeks

7/7.5 first sets im a real gamer

[slate talon]

Admin trait

interesting

[final glade]

i think set 8 already has some major balance concerns with hero augment thing, threat trait, and admin

but thats ok dragons are gone itll be fun

also this is probably a minor bitch but like

i really hope they fix the unit orb drop thing

[slate talon]

wdym

[final glade]

so if u pick an augment or most likely with hero augments and it says like "gives an ezreal"

it doesn't take the ezreal out of the pool until u pick it up

[slate talon]

ah yeah

[final glade]

so the big abuse case of this is if ur playing a 1-3 cost reroll comp u just dont pick it up until it makes 9

[vague wind]

3.5 was my first set it was comfy

[final glade]

and if ur getting hero augments every game and presumably there will be some 1-3 cost reroll comps.. yeah...

[vague wind]

now im just a get masters/gm then start tilting and quit player

[final glade]

ive played at least some of every set

masters first time last set, challenger this one (hopefully just challenger from now on but we shall see)

[slate talon]

also who here is getting the mythic arena so you can live out your school girl star guardian fantasy

[vague wind]

set 7.5 is the first .5 i've played more than 30 games of since 3.5 hehehehehe

[final glade]

its kinda cool

i played more of 5.5 than 5.0

but it was still only like 80 games or something

let me count my 7.5 games

[vague wind]

still quit 2.5 weeks in

[final glade]

600 7.5 games

[vague wind]

o ur blakespace duh

saw you in regionals quals or smth

[final glade]

a lot of that was i did one of the tournaments and made it to second weekend so i was like grinding hard

[vague wind]

[final glade]

ya

i did not belong

[slate talon]

blake is famous

[final glade]

but i was there

[vague wind]

wtf is that cursed emote

[final glade]

im hoping to just play in every tournament now

i havent found it too hard to retain top like 150 when trying but with new wow expansion and new set maybe its too hard

[vague wind]

ya theyre fun even if tft's like tourney viability isnt all that good

i played a couple opens in set 4 that i really enjoyed

[slate talon]

you did pretty damn well tho

[vague wind]

bring me back

[final glade]

ya its just good vibes everyone is trying so hard

ladder is so hit or miss whether people are actually sweating it or not

tournament everyojne full scouts every single round and shit its pretty epic

[final glade]

i would do better if the tournament happened like 2 weeks later

i hadnt even ever been challenger before at the time of the tournament and in general my confidence was just way too low

[slate talon]

its ok you pop off in the next one

[final glade]

🙏

pop off in tourney so i get to flex on my wow guild and tell them i cant raid bc i have a tourney

[tall whale]

RAMMUS

oh shit they adding workshop rings as a trait 😛

[slate talon]

might hit 6 dragons this game

@tall whale ez game

[final glade]

what 6 did u play

was it ufn

wait

i can see what 6

very cool i am a big daeja fan and 2* zippy over 1* like soy/idas etc (with 6 dragons)

[slate talon]

yeah fair I hit 2* soy so was like fuck it u stay

[final glade]

fair enough

[slate talon]

it was giga fun

didn't even have the dragon soul augment

[final glade]

2 spats or cursed crown or what

[slate talon]

fon + new recruit

[final glade]

icic

[slate talon]

and mirage was pirates

so I had fat econ to go to 9

[final glade]

i think ive hit it myself like 5 or so times and then seen it in my games probably 20

so i am like beyond over almost any coolness of it

but that being said i still think a buffed up daeja is one of the coolest tft units of all time

so in that sense i still like it

also now that we've seen crumbs of set 8 i just only want to play set 8 and am over 7.5

[slate talon]

same bro

but yeah daeja is dope as definitely fave unit of this set

[final glade]

im not a super big fan of mirage as a trait at least like

the way it ended up getting solved has made it quite lame where like u basically just dont give a fuck if ur 3 mirage or not with most of the mirages

[slate talon]

yeah cool unit meh trait

[final glade]

i thought it was a cool trait when the meta actually made u play varying levels of mirage depending on trait but nowadays ppl realized u just dont play mirage and play good units instead xd

but ya just watching the wave go boom is satisfying and then anytime i get to play a deja with decent AD, so triforce or guild spat or 6 dragons

its always fun just how hard the daeja hits

[slate talon]

its so satisfying

[tall whale]

6 dragon so fun

man i really wanna play a 12 lagoon game but doubt its ever gonna happen

[slate talon]

@final glade did you see the item anvils coming in new set

[final glade]

yeah

slightly unclear how they work but potentially a great solution

they werent clear whether u get to pick literally any component or whether its pick 1 out of a few

[slate talon]

Oh what I read was 3 options I believe

[final glade]

think it would be a lot better if u could pick literally anything

[slate talon]

Yeah the completed items one would be a mess tho haha

[final glade]

ye i agree

my ideal world would be pick literally any component, pick out of 2-4 items

[slate talon]

I rate that

[final glade]

but if its like they have to both be the same style for some reason, then yeah pick out of a few components/items is better than being able to pikc literally any item

which sounds like a bad idea balance wise let alone ui wise

[slate talon]

yeah would be nice to have pick of any components but honestly I think this is nicer than treasure dragon

[vague wind]

https://twitter.com/MismatchedSock0/status/1591114635255898112

bc | MismatchedSocks (@MismatchedSock0)

ME MECH NO SCOUT NO PIVOT. IF YOU CONTEST WE HOLD HANDS 7 8. Riot gave me an early exclusive leak to show you guys and mech is back with a twist! You select one of your units to become the mech (with the mech selector item). They become the mech gaining stats and size.

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[final glade]

finally a reveal worth watching

ME MECH

[slate talon]

Ah so dmancer

[final glade]

mech is a bit diff but somewhat similar in concept

a notable diff from set 3 mech is that it caps at 3 units

[slate talon]

Oh interesting

[final glade]

so like in dmancer for one u could run up to 8 with emblems but also 2 lee sins would both count towards star level increase, where as mech is just 3 units

[slate talon]

I do rate that

[final glade]

but ye we dont know how mech 5 works and also he says there is 5 mech units but it combines 3? not sure how u pick or if u can

i guess its probably pick with dmancer esq item then just 2 closest homies

i hope there isnt a mech spat at least

[slate talon]

Plz no

Surely they’ve learnt right

[final glade]

man i wonder what they'll do for the mech trait augments

augments are too lit for possibilities

[vague wind]

5th heist into get hero jax'd at 2 hp

[final glade]

https://streamable.com/7a9dn1

my godf ur wokege

i havent even gotten to play an underground opening yet

[tall whale]

Ahhhh tft queue

it's expected but

[slate talon]

its live or just ptr for new set

oh nvm ptr

there's double treasure dragon in reg tft for the final patch lol

[tall whale]

Ye on pbe

[tall whale]

@slate talon do you have pbe?

mecha prime early seems NUTS

[slate talon]

I do not

What’s the ping like

[tall whale]

200ms but its tft so not the worst

playing my first game of the new set now

hardly knew anything about it

[slate talon]

Yeah fair I just find it annoyingly slow sometimes

Set seems super cool tho

[tall whale]

average pbe user

[slate talon]

lmao so true

[tall whale]

He ff'd after that btw

[slate talon]

[tall whale]

@final glade how many games you played?

First game i hard inted since i was doing other stuff

[final glade]

think 8

if u want to win just force mech jax

or just mech in general but ye

[tall whale]

Ye seems strong xd

[final glade]

im a huge fan of admin so far

not remarking on strength just think its fun

[slate talon]

Such a cool concept

[tall whale]

My initial thoughts are the new traits look fun

[slate talon]

How does it work is it you pick one admin for the game or you pick it each combat round?

[final glade]

pick a trait when u put in 2 admin which gives an u 1 "then" and your "if" both for the entire game

so this for example i got offered that as 1 choice out of 3 but in choosing i had to choose the if and then at the same time if u follow

anyways when u put in 4 u pick a second "then"

[slate talon]

Ok so it’s pick once for the whole game

[final glade]

yep

and the unfortunate thing, or i guess kind of rng of it is that some ifs are waaaaaaaaaaay better than others

[tall whale]

@slate talon you should get pbe

we can play together

[final glade]

though the power of the second "then" does correspond

so like say ur second then is "% to gain gold"
if ur if is "at the start of round"
itll be like 40%, but if ur if is "every time admin's cast an ability" then it'll be like 5%

but yeah i had a pretty insane camille reroll game where my if was every ability cast and my second then was gain 15 permanent hp

so my 1100~ base hp unit scaled up to 3k by the end of teh game lol

https://streamable.com/6g52b0

[tall whale]

made a admin urgot

soraka kinda nuts

???

[final glade]

yeah soraka very good

blue buff + AP

[tall whale]

HM

[tall whale]

getting worse :l

[slate talon]

Should’ve stayed in the queue

[tall whale]

aye almost in

[tall whale]

wait wtf

i've been scammed

[tall whale]

oh pbe is down silly me

[vague wind]

i was 5 underground at 3-2 in my first pbe game

first rule of pbe is never log out

[tall whale]

Never been this bad

Set 7 was the worst till now this is just horrible

Before set 7 i never had that big pbe queues

[final glade]

Set 7 was worse than this for sure

Or maybe it was 6

Some set had league preseason changes and a new champ and tft all at once

well i got scammed hard

couldnt connect to a game when it launched and had to restart client

didnt get safe spotted at all

despair

i'll just have to get in after patch today

[final glade]

despairge

people are reward duping

and no damage meter on pbe

kinda hard to have fun with this..

[slate talon]

What’s this

[final glade]

susge..

there is a very very easy way to get anythign that offers u a reward, item anvil, undergroujnd heist, etc to repeat

so if ur underground is 20 gold then u can just make it give u 200 gold

[slate talon]

That’s so cringe

[slate talon]

Why are people like this on pbe

[final glade]

yeah idk

it was a bit grating losing over and over to mech jax yesterday

bc its like i get it man u know its op why are u spamming it there is no lp

but at least its not actively cheating

but then now people are duping

ye i just did it in a game and ffd

honestly dont know how to more than triple it

[final glade]

man this is too cringe...

5 games in a row with someone underground bug abusing..

[slate talon]

Bruh anyone who plays pbe to bug abuse or force the same broken comp every game should be banned

[final glade]

6 games in a row

good thing is im getting in hella games

bc im just ffing when i see someone doing it

o also turns out i was wrong and its nto just duping rewards but its upping the level of the reward

[final glade]

ok i think i just have to not play the new set for the day

these bug abusers just completely killing the game for me

bad enough when ppl are just doing it clearly by manually spam clicking

just played a guy who got his heist level to 15 off of 1 heist and then watched him roll 50+ gold at level 9 rolling once a second for an entire stage

these (self censoring) people are legit making click macros to bug abuse normal games on a fake server!!!

[tall whale]

Jesus

Thats omega cringe

Like mech is w/e its just op , how many people you seen do it @final glade ??

[final glade]

literally average of 1 per game

[tall whale]

played a pbe and 2 people doing it

wait no 3 people doing

how cringe

ah yes

man idk why i even queue'd another game

same bot names just abusing same shit

like these names

[tall whale]

nvm that game was fun the one abusing it went 8th

[final glade]

Yeah it's just botted accounts and non English speakers abusing it for the most part

Not that it matters whether people think ur a piece of shit in tft but everyone else seems to have enough shame or self respect to not do it

Saw 1 person with a JoJo name do it then ff

[tall whale]

instant pbe queue??

wtf pog

[tall whale]

jax still seems quite strong but killable atleast now

4 people going jax is kinda though

[tall whale]

@final glade you played around much with threats?

might totally int a match and try like heaps of threats out

asol seems cool

[final glade]

not as a vertical

ive done zac with splash for frontline and played a civilian carry asol game

1 off morde 3 and this guy is holding 2 mordes

on pbe

and i beat him anyways

why are people on pbe more try hard than people on NA challenger 1k lp

[tall whale]

So true

[final glade]

it must just be a regiona diff or something i have no idea

also i scouted this same guy going for soraka 3

and decided to not hold sorakas

XD

also its pretty hit or miss but fwiw it seems like the better way to play around 1/2 cost hero augments is to jsut tempo them into a level 8/9 comp

thats obviously potentially and in some sense less fun but ye

[tall whale]

china needs it's own pbe holy shit

actually can't play pbe since i dont leave my pc on

[final glade]

just leave ur pc on

btw no reset until monday so

get in today or suffer

[tall whale]

oh ok queue wasn't bad today

[tall whale]

damm late game soraka kinda busted @final glade

not sure how i feel about syndra she seems kinda meh

[final glade]

why is she any more busted late game

syndra is just thresh from set 3 or whatever

[tall whale]

ye just felt worse

[final glade]

unit itself is meh but literally pulls in units off ur bench so with a good bench she is good

[final glade]

game plan is get masters before poe league and then grind top 150 sometime between dec 27ish and jan 9th

kinda doubt i'll be able to get masters in 3 days but

[slate talon]

have you played much pbe

[tall whale]

any underground intrs

[final glade]

i basically only played pbe to force underground and ff if i didnt hit

[slate talon]

based asf

gonna be me on launch day

[tall whale]

the traits and stuff were fun but items felt weird to me

[final glade]

doubt i'll have a real opinion on the set until like january lmao

[slate talon]

theres a few item changes right?

[final glade]

ie and jg are the same other than the base stats now, AD spells cant crit without one of the 2
trap claw > guardbreaker (shield breaker item that gives crit and ad/ap)
all dodge items are now crit items

think thats it

[tall whale]

IE and JG are basically the same now pretty sure

mana items got changed

[final glade]

o ya

[tall whale]

shojin and blue buff are really different,

[final glade]

shojin is effectively the same

[tall whale]

oh i thought the mana gain was heavily nerfed

[final glade]

initially it was

now its 20 mana per every 3rd auto which is actually higher

or maybe it got nerfed from that but ye

blue buff is somewhat different though the thought process behind when u use it is the same really

[slate talon]

and blue buff?

[final glade]

reduces ur max mana cost by 10 and gives 10 mana when u get takedowns

[slate talon]

oh wow

that is very different

[slate talon]

@tall whale we grinding some tft today king?

[slate talon]

aphelios as a carry seems bad

[tall whale]

Gonna do my m0s today

[slate talon]

Samira is rather pog

[tall whale]

ye she's fun

[slate talon]

ok I've changed mind on aphelios too

[final glade]

the grind begins

[slate talon]

its up on NA now?

[final glade]

yeah looks like 20 min or so ago

[slate talon]

poggers

u seen the lasercorp reroll comp

[final glade]

nopers

[slate talon]

looks kinda gross

[tall whale]

link @slate talon

also first augment HEROs suck ass still

its not ranked but this norm lobby 3 people have the same malphite one

and 3 others all have underground ones

[final glade]

idrk entirely about a full reroll comp around lasercorps but yasuo is one of the more disgusting 2 costs ive ever seen

[tall whale]

im about to play 3 supers 3 lasrcorps fug it

[slate talon]

https://sites.google.com/view/tftmeta/s-tier/lasercorps-reroll

this one

also @final glade its full reroll

[tall whale]

ayoo thats what im playing atm

[slate talon]

I do like that some games don't have em

mixes it up a bit more

[tall whale]

ashe kinda nutty

same with yasuo

[vague wind]

I havent played the last 2 weeks of pbe hope nothing changed

[final glade]

not bad

[final glade]

pretty much same i played like a game a day of trying to force underground and alt f4ing if i didnt hit

i played zed bc i felt like i had a good angle for it and my 1 game of pbe yesterday made me think it was strong

turns out ramblinn thinks its S tier xd

[vague wind]

ye that list is gettin a lot of use this week

[final glade]

im dizzy immediately though when the comp has 3 variants with like 15 different units

[vague wind]

apparently china thinks vertical spellslingers busted so ill just force that

lmao jesus

[final glade]

i thought it was busted when i played it on pbe for sure

2 game sample size pretty big

[vague wind]

ye i usually had success with him

[tall whale]

china tft meta confuses me sometimes

[final glade]

i meant spellslinger

[vague wind]

but pbe you can never tell sometimes you just got double nunu running over your board

[tall whale]

they are like nuts at tft but also play the wackiest stuff

[vague wind]

ah

[final glade]

my 2nd game and ive already relapsed to playing underground

[tall whale]

Do you feel more degen play that or mercs @final glade

mercs i felt i inted more

[final glade]

underground for now

mercs was just actually good

dont know if this 1 is good or not

i mean surely taking it on 2-1 and then cashing out at 3 heist when im playing a level 7 reroll comp has to be good

but who knows

[slate talon]

may I have link plz sir

[final glade]

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1H8o1t5mOUB2UsdSMEO6bxS2loMBSTrMeSMO-4eEvTdM/preview?pru=AAABhRDBpGQ*nLy2axS6jFS7Sfm4ZrOBJg&slide=id.g1a1fc2dc0a5_8193_0

[slate talon]

ty

[final glade]

formatting isnt his strong suit compared to some other tier lists

but hes probably the player i respect the most with a tierlist with higher effort put into it

[final glade]

i kinda think playing any comp on S tier of that list might be kinda bait rn lmao

[slate talon]

too contested?

[final glade]

seems like every comp on there that high has been double contested not counting me every game

this game i had my first augment and my hero augment both lending to kaisa nilah comp and then 2 other people went it with like

i mean ill just send there augments sec

also

sometimes lucky i guess

i really am just too much of a 4fun gamer rn though

[slate talon]

running 7 anima squad rn

is fun

[final glade]

thats the first thing i played my first pbe game

[slate talon]

I love it

[final glade]

it felt quite weak for most of pbe

and kind of like a why play vayne as primary carry when u can play tertiary in nilah/kaisa

but thats ok

[vague wind]

i was really surprised when anima squad got a nerf this past week

wtf happened when i was gone

[slate talon]

mf carry angle

[vague wind]

mf was only barely getting noticed as playable

[slate talon]

or at least I am

[final glade]

mf is also like not a primary carryable unit imo

[slate talon]

I have 2* aphelios as well

[final glade]

but like mf + vayne + some other dmg source and ur probably chilling

if i dont go first this game is bad

agreed

[slate talon]

ye I have that + 2* phel

[final glade]

oh

this guy in my game 3*d mf

robbed of a win

[vague wind]

[final glade]

really wish 3* 4 costs didnt exist

my comp is just 9 units on board all providing really good synergy and generally being great units, infinite items allocated well

this guys board absolute dog shit with a 3* 4 cost so he wins

[vague wind]

pd

[final glade]

ok well soju is 2nd 5th so far and im 2nd 2nd so im better gg

[slate talon]

I just want nasus bonk augment

[final glade]

man its kinda hard to get over how inefficient it feels to play my placement games rn

the diff between 1st and 2nd is like 80lp man lmao

[slate talon]

I just forced the ashe comp

[final glade]

if i dont go literally 1st then i may as well have went giga 8th

[slate talon]

and had 6 3* on lv6 lmao

ye that was ez first

uncontested ashe comp

[vague wind]

only got 3 days to poe might as well just skip this league and nolife tft

[tall whale]

tft is around for ages ,while poe is temporary 👍

[final glade]

yeah but poe being temporary in this case kinda leans into the point

like taking a break from tft to play poe for a couple weeks = pog, but if its only 3 days bc wow

then not pog

that being said im playin poe

[vague wind]

u already know

[final glade]

[vague wind]

trade sector tho uh oh

haha surely 2* kayle gets made here...

i dont just lose streak to save 0 hp..

[final glade]

u are already cashing out a 5 heist and winning out on my screen

[vague wind]

nvm i made 20

cursing the like 11 gold 1 item opener til it gave me underground

no combat augments needed

[final glade]

feel like this trait is lowkey the best trait in the game

[vague wind]

ya

it got hard nerfed i was running prankster frontline a ton a couple weeks ago

theyre just baiting me so hard man...

[final glade]

win streak lose streak no diff

1 stack who care

[vague wind]

trueeeeeee

but

the 7 heist...

[final glade]

5 6 7 heist no diff..

[final glade]

fuck it we ball

[vague wind]

ball

[vague wind]

thanks for the tips

[final glade]

ur lookin healthy ish too

[vague wind]

Listen...

[final glade]

bro...

that might be too much cashout for 1 person to handle

[slate talon]

holy shit

I mean u have to

[vague wind]

MITSAKES

[final glade]

u do kinda have to

[vague wind]

dw i dont mess this up

[final glade]

🙏

[slate talon]

honestly no dragon/colossus is so refreshing

[vague wind]

whats one more round...

[final glade]

im learning between meming on pbe and 600 games of set 7.5 that i have extreme brainrot

every game just looks like a go 9 to me

[vague wind]

ya i luckily got a lot of that out on pbe

but

at some point

u just cant

refuse

[final glade]

agreed

[vague wind]

put my bt on the wrong unit

[final glade]

ok i am just

2,2,2

🔫

[vague wind]

neeko urgot 2 for more drops

[final glade]

thats what i did in my game

but it was also like 4-1 so it was more so board strength

[vague wind]

neeko'd aphelios got one next shop

tie into 2nd

bruh

wait 3rd somehow

[final glade]

[vague wind]

i lost like 20 hp unnecessarily my item placement was shit thats life

that guy legit tied at least 5 times this game lmao

[final glade]

what was he playing

[vague wind]

in no world should that have been aynthing but a 1st

just urgot sett nothing

im real confused tbh even swapped 3rd weapon aphelios

no lw so i lose tho

[final glade]

sett do be real tanky

[vague wind]

redemption + anima visage was enough to tank through morello and stall out for every tie lmao gotta respect it

my viego just died to something Eventually

letting myself down already

[final glade]

im 222 but since every game was winnable i feel like im down 200 lp

[vague wind]

mortdog fucked u out of the 1st dw...

he gives the strongest the toughest battles

how am i supposed to get free wins if taner doesnt update cntft....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ah07VUdiSM3vHhcTQoo7wyWLuCGgCJLILzVp2a1ChWY/edit#gid=0 nvm got the tech

[final glade]

playing towards zed, guy in my lobby hits zed 2 on 3-5

wish poe was coming out today

[vague wind]

[final glade]

@vague wind have u seen how zed aggro in corners works

its actually so cringe and idk how to deal with it lmao

biggest meme of the set is that assasins are gone though

[vague wind]

ya its real awkward

iirc need 2-deep to block it

im tryin to deal with a zed augment as zed/taliyah rn

maybe i just surround taliyah with 3 pranksters

[final glade]

we love pranksters

[vague wind]

i missed a ramblinnnn explanation of how hero augment tailoring works while i was rolling

[final glade]

[vague wind]

the dangers of early sweatin

[final glade]

im down to play these people when im 1k lp

idk about when im silver 2..

[vague wind]

Listen...

i cant even take it i dont have a unit FUCK

punished

gg

ff

[final glade]

holy..

[vague wind]

this sets a fuckin tilter

[final glade]

a constant urge to fight the need to gamble

[vague wind]

punished for not going full degenerate

never making that mistake a gain

next time im rolling for it

[slate talon]

based

[vague wind]

here i was thinking i was getting the 4fun out on pbe

no

i was just practicing

[slate talon]

got a sona from very 1st orb of the game

its a sign

[final glade]

can never escape the 4fun

[vague wind]

[slate talon]

ok we got kayle now

Vi inc

dogshit game

nvm we hit ezreal

[vague wind]

[final glade]

i feel like i am not having fun

2 games in a row the same player + an extra guy in this game

just donkey to 0 at level 7 and hit zed 2

meanwhile im just playing correctly and waiting to roll on 8

so i get fucked

ok i hit anyways am now having fun again

[vague wind]

nice, deleting my pre-typed "there's always dragonbane keep"

[final glade]

LMAO

[vague wind]

shoulda played underground

i shoulda played a game or two last week im making the dumbest mistakes lmao

dragged items onto the wrong unit three times so far

is this what WoW does to a man

that actually kills early points so hard fuk

w/e at least i dont have challenger lobbies in bronze

i really wanna try the zoe+annie comp china likes just never have the opening

only uground

[vague wind]

https://clips.twitch.tv/KawaiiBlindingCodBabyRage-rdTJEOrJLbhynLSW

[final glade]

ok not that bad

my placements were 2,2,2,3,2

[final glade]

good info i did already know this but still x)

its kinda why it feels like spending ur reroll pre hero augment is like an omega int

its good they took out the like switch and reroll thing

but i feel like a reroll is still too broken

[vague wind]

when 3 units is too strong

[final glade]

also im pretty surprised my tft fundamentals actually exist/stuck around this hard

i was really wondering how my initial games would go with no real understanding of pbe meta + having not touched tft in a month but i'll take an avg of like 2.2 happily though i think the average lobby mmr is like d4-masters last set other than my final game

then again i am definitely just abusing broken shit so far lmao

2 kaisa/nilah games, 3 zed games

[vague wind]

thats the way to do it

[final glade]

im so cracked

[vague wind]

velkoz is such a unit

im item holding this fucker every game

dont ask me why i know shojins dont stack

wait maybe they do

[final glade]

im yet to play velkoz on live or pbe really

finally branching out

ok velkoz + annie shield is just 1 shotting enemy carry if its not 2*d

this is based

[vague wind]

ya velkoz with an ap item midgame is so funny

[final glade]

this annie..

jeweled lotus interaction with augments like this always feels like it probably shouldnt be in the game

[vague wind]

ye that augment owns

[final glade]

i probs shouldve investigated how cn was playing this rather than just follow ramblinn

o well

[vague wind]

[final glade]

man i thought i got a nice easy lobby

then i realized i have this fuckin guy in my game

[slate talon]

committed to the meme

[final glade]

[slate talon]

ok we made upgrade

I positioned zed thinking he was assassin

oh they changed dblade as well

[slate talon]

got 2nd lmao

[final glade]

@vague wind

beat him while copying his own comp list

[vague wind]

too ez

[final glade]

hes looking at my board rn talking about how good it is

which is kind of him jerking himself off

but its jerking me off too

[vague wind]

[slate talon]

thats hilarious

what are your guys thoughts on the hero augments btw

[vague wind]

3 other people taking the same hero you were thinking of rerolling feels quite bad

[slate talon]

ye

as bips said it feels really shit as 1st augment

[final glade]

oh i think they are sick

i feel like all of pbe i couldnt get myself into tft gamer mindset but even just 6 games on live being in that mode i like them a lot

[slate talon]

I like them a lot

except I feel like when its 1st augment

[final glade]

it might just be that im loving this zed comp but like

[slate talon]

theres no variety