any opening that doesnt attack the center either in a hypermodern or classic pawn push approach is just not great
#♟️Chess
dusky hull
e4 d4 c4, Nf3 and Nc3 are really the only "good" options
is that to say that i cant lose to a grob if a master plays it? no ill get floored either way
but the whole point of white's first move advantage is to seize the advantage by claiming the center
if you do anything other than claim the center or hope to claim the center, you've already made a small strategical mistake as white
honorable mention to g3 and b3 preparing to fianchetto bishops, again in a hypermodern style, but even those are perceived weaker than the options i listed above.
woeful wolf
It’s really bad
But people don’t know how to play against it at my (very low) skill
So it’s kinda fun
tardy finch
The daily puzzles have all been this for a while..
woeful wolf
Yeh basically
I need to stop playing grob
It’s hilarious though
People resigning almost instantly after getting blasted by it
tardy finch
Try the borg, it's even worse
woeful wolf
dusky hull
in this house, we stan ||bishop mates||
tardy finch
The memes are strong with this one
woeful wolf
I’m just trying to give the other 900s ptsd from the grobbin
dusky hull
my favorite part is when storm said "its grobbin time" and grobs all over his opponent
woeful wolf
Basically
Gonna rename my chess.com account to grobbintime
When pert looks at me and says wtf is that opening and I just say “its grobberin time”
76 moves
tardy finch
This was in the hundreds 
woeful wolf
dusky hull
This was in the hundreds <:SMH:887994777595965472>
We had one game go there. That absolute train wreck of a queen vs r and b end game
tardy finch
I have no memory of that
However I'm willing to bet that I managed to screw it up no matter which side I played
dusky hull
you had your e and f connected pawns, i had my b and c connected pawns, you had rook and bishop, i had queen
it was a tough nut to crack. im not really experienced with those kinds of endgames
woeful wolf
dusky hull
When you really hate losing end games so you make the board long enough to draw by 50 move rule before your opponents pawns can promote
void bramble
Add some red cups and a ping pong ball to decide who moves
tardy finch
Nerf rooks and queens, fucking broken on a 8x200 board
woeful wolf
Add some red cups and a ping pong ball to decide who moves
Beer pong chess that’s like chess boxing would be funny
Play 10 moves and try to move/fuck up enemy pieces or make them drink
Then 10 more moves
dusky hull
Nerf rooks and queens, fucking broken on a 8x200 board
Poor knights. Really the only piece that wouldn’t benefit
woeful wolf
Long knights
Move normal or 20 squares
I’m 2/2 with the borg asiano
This system is cracked if you are just better than your opponent
Or maybe not
dusky hull
This system is cracked if you are just better than your opponent
you'll find this to be true for many openings, or just competitions in general
dusky hull
In this very complex position, black has only one move that claims advantage.
My starting advice for you is find the liabilities in white’s position first. Then compose ideas of moves once you understand all of white’s problems.
Don’t worry if this is beyond your current calculation level. Just try anyway to see what you can put together.
For reference, this took me about 1 minute to spot the liabilities, and then about another 10-15 minutes of solid calculation of 2 possible lines.
If you're having trouble getting started, white's weaknesses are ||black's passed c pawn, the pinned g pawn making both g and h pawns weak, and the xray that black's dsb has on the white queen||
for the record, I haven't seen a correct, concrete answer to this position yet, so if someone has no interest in figuring it out but wants to see if I'm wrong, toss this into an engine and see what it says.
I believe the first move is ||Rd7||, and I can explain the lines later if anyone cares.
tardy finch
For this one, I'll wait, it's far beyond my ability.
White can put up a really good defense. Stockfish will probably prove me wrong but this position feels equal. Maybe slight edge for black, yes, but nothing that can be converted into a win imo
dusky hull
The position on the board, after my calculations anyway, doesn't lead directly to a win for black. It just leads to a better position to be grinded out later.
woeful wolf
||rd7 look the most promising ||
dusky hull
||rd7 look the most promising ||
good start. now follow through with the 2 main options from white and see if you can follow whats going on
woeful wolf
good start. now follow through with the 2 main options from white and see if you...
||white either plays qc8 to pin the bishop and threaten rook or accepts bishop trade||
This is why I stick to grobbin
dusky hull
Qc8 is just met with ||Rxd2|| so that's not a viable option. You're hitting the nail on the head with the other thought though. But just understand that there's ||two bishops the queen can take||
woeful wolf
I think that’s right no?
dusky hull
so now the goal is to figure out how to react properly after white plays either ||Qxf8 or Qxc4||
this is the meat of the position, i'd say
tardy finch
A woman on the train had such an annoying laugh that I came back to this position as an alternative to getting off in the wrong country.
Pert may be able to grind the position, I still think I personally can't. Following what's above, ||Qxc4|| seems better imo after which ||Rxd2, Rxc2, rook trade and probably Ng4 to maybe stir the shit? I know there is Bxa3 but it doesn't feel like that achieves anything and there is still the problem that our biggest asset(the c pawn) is just gone||
dusky hull
you're about 2/3 there
||Qxc4 is probably better than Qxf8 although that is the other main line I calculated. And you're right that if Rxd2 here, its unclear who is better if either side at all.
But after Qxc4, we don't need to take the knight. We can play Bxa3 instead. We have to accept that we're going to lose the pawn regardless which way we capture, but when we play Bxa3, it comes with the tempo on the b2 rook, it keeps the pressure on the d2 knight, and it prevents a rook trade.
So this line is Rd7 Qxc4 Bxa3 Rxc2 and now there's one move left I'll ask you to try to find that really shows black is better||
@tardy finch when trying to find this final move, really think about white's weaknesses like I asked you to originally.
answer: ||Nf5 instead of Ng4. The idea is that even after all these captures and despite us losing our passed c pawn, white still has the impossible challenge of holding together the pawn structure with the pinned g pawn. Nf5 attacks the g pawn and the h pawn simultaneously, which isn't actually protected due to the pin. White's position will deteriorate once the pawn is captured and black will retain advantage
So the whole main line is Rd7 Qxc4 Bxa3 Rxc2 Nf5 and now white loses a pawn no matter what
The whole side line is Rd7 Qxf8 Rxd2 Rxc2 Rxc2 Bxc2 and now you have to find Rh2 to start boxing the king in. At this point, even if it might not seem like it, white is getting positionally suffocated. This will result in a worse position than the main line virtually no matter what white does.||
At least that's what I found when analyzing all of this. Again, I'd be curious to see what the engine says, but I just haven't gotten around to checking it
dusky hull
anyway, this is for you @woeful wolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSCDE_ebc1c
cyan elm
woeful wolf
anyway, this is for you <@160563760585637888> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS...
Unfort
it works on higher than 100
dusky hull
feels good to win when you take someone to an endgame for sure
like either "nah my position is obviously better than yours: enjoy suffering" or "it wasn't clear whose position was better, but I've taken the initiative here off of your mistake" also good
woeful wolf
I felt the ||rook|| sac was a great move
I really gotta stop playing the grob
And have an advantage all game
I’m not sure if there was a better line that that
dusky hull
i mean its entirely possible that ive been the one looking at this all wrong. perhaps the fact that you're intentionally kneecapping yourself before arriving at the middle game is training you to become a stronger player even faster. You have to be creative and resourceful to survive, and then capitalize on your opponent's mistakes.
like every fighting anime character training with insane weights on and then removing the weights for the real battles
dusky hull
right, and that'll be you when you play like the london or the ruy lopez or something real lmao
woeful wolf
The worst case scenario is that you are down material (if you have lost who cares you already lost gg next)
So if you can win down pieces up pieces should be easy
dusky hull
precisely
so yea i mean maybe im the idiot for playing theoretically sound openings with all of my pieces and pawns
dusky hull
i do not doubt that
woeful wolf
Even more so when the grob doesn’t work and you still booty blast
That said
I like the London but my issue is most people in my elo log onto chess.com to pointlessly trade pieces in trades that don’t accomplish anything other than reducing the amount of pieces
Like “if I can see it I’ll take it “
And I think the London is venerable to that
Venerable maybe wrong word
cyan elm
vulnerable u mean?
woeful wolf
cyan elm
Like “if I can see it I’ll take it “
I don't really mind this cuz I back myself in an endgame
woeful wolf
I play the grob it’s -.9 to 1.5 depending on what they play I think.
Opening shit
Mid game shit
Come back ability : anime main character when getting a power boost levels
woeful wolf
What would the grob armor look like
woeful wolf
I’m almost back to 1k on the grob
Opening is juiced
I really actually like this analysis
As I am down 3 points of material but
tardy finch
It's 0.0 because there is a forced draw on board...
woeful wolf
Ah
Well I won
I have given up trying to understand
Got paired with an 1150 and thought i was gonna get wrecked and smoked him
But like I have an overwhelming feeling I’m too stupid to fall for what he was trying to do
void bramble
woeful wolf
tardy finch
This translates to 'grave' here so please don't dig too deep into it
dusky hull
this is how it feels every time levy makes one of those youtube shorts where hes like "and then he sacrificed THE ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK"
woeful wolf
I can just imagine how tilting this must be for people
it was so tilting he hung his queen a few moves later
and resigned
but man
Since I know youll want to laugh at this mornic stuff pert
cyan elm
https://www.chess.com/game/live/71084272995
I love how immediately after your first move the eval is -1.3
woeful wolf
Man got into max tilt when the rook was taken
tardy finch
He didn't tilt, he "aggressively gambled material"
woeful wolf
agressively sacrificed
tardy finch
There was recently a game where Nodirbek sacrificed every single piece except for the queen and won
tardy finch
Halfway there 
tardy finch
Game of blunders
woeful wolf
I’m consistently getting people 100-150 elo higher than me when I’m on white
Chess.com sandbagging the grob
woeful wolf
King bum rush pretty good strat too
just blunder all your pieces and be -6 and bum rush
tardy finch
Don't mirror your opponent, kids
https://www.chess.com/game/4058f692-b6f8-11ed-a830-18216101000f
woeful wolf
400 elo game?
Well it says 800 when I refresh
I’m just sad it wasn’t a grob mirror match
Morals question here. There’s a mate in one but you have a chance to get a second queen and swag on your opponent
Do you do it
dusky hull
been awhile since i posted a full game. playing as black here, my opponent drew me into unknown territory quite early, so for the most part im just playing chess here and not a rehearsed line by any means.
https://lichess.org/vtNnDWlv/black#1
here is my thought process at different stages of the game
- slow move from white, prepare the attack to the center
- could play Bxh3 but i personally value the bishop pair higher than doubling h pawns
- align rook with king/xray bishop. f6 is the engines favorite but after f6 you're committing to giving up your lsb in that line which like if i didnt do it on move 6 i wasnt gonna do it from a plan on move 9
- ha bitch
- yea i mean Rf5 wins positionally and if you're confident in yourself as a player you can do that by all means smother your opponent. or you can do things my way and be super cool and simplify in totally rad ways bringing you to a winning endgame.
16+ the rest of these moves are fairly boilerplate. my opponent just gave up towards the end.
woeful wolf
I swear dude
Chess.com making me play black pieces 2x as much as white pieces
Prob not but that’s what it feels like
woeful wolf
tardy finch
the fuck happened on f5
woeful wolf
War crimes
He initiated a piece trade that he shouldn’t of
9 pieces died there
As a result of his actions
tardy finch
Puzzle rating graph hurts on a whole new level
tardy finch
I just had a game where I completely crushed my opponent which on one hand is good and feels satisfying.
But on the other, analysis showed I missed M1 4 times, M2 once and M3 twice
woeful wolf
dusky hull
https://www.chess.com/game/live/71413467287
man really said "allow me, good sir"
do not sully yourself forcing my king into a fork when i can simply prance into it for you, as a gentleman
tardy finch
Why you no sleep
woeful wolf
Me?
woeful wolf
Brilliant move
Lots of bad moves and ofc manditory “the grob sucks”
But Stockfish can’t put a rating on fun
tardy finch
In recent news, Mr. Pert no longer finds joy in playing d4.
How will you comment this, @dusky hull ?
dusky hull
c4 is more explosive
tardy finch
What about here 
dusky hull
c4 go boom
tardy finch
D4 is fucking crushing and it wasn't played
dusky hull
OH WELL
in all seriousness the past like 7 games in a row that ive started with d4 i keep getting grunfeld players
and playing against the grunfeld is just literally so unfun
void bramble
Did I play a thing with a name when I played you
tardy finch
🍿
dusky hull
was that a sneaky asiano jumping in
because that was not me
gotta appreciate bishop mates
or was that like
forever ago
oh yea i see
3 months ago
lel
to answer your question ill be honest im not sure how much of what we played is considered theory
id say the first few moves or so are theoretical as theyve been played by higher rated players, but no, no fun name like the grunfeld
void bramble
Can we name it the rainbow right now
woeful wolf
Im poppin off i guess
Average pert game is like
100 accuracy and all brillant moves prob
tardy finch
Pert doesn't stop at 100. Pert is better than Pert.
woeful wolf
See if you can spot either move brillant move from the game though
Spoiler tagging the second one as you can infer the first move from it
dusky hull
i feel like im going to have to start posting the games where i blunder the game away so i can end this theory that i am a perfect player lol
woeful wolf
You are my chess hero
void bramble
i feel like im going to have to start posting the games where i blunder the game...
Don't you want stormvine to throw panties at you
dusky hull
ill see if i can dig it up but i had a very, very, very sharp game where i gave away 2 pieces to the attack and was still actually relatively equal. and then i blundered away mate in 4 and then i lost the game
woeful wolf
I would never dirty pert by throwing my panties at him
I only want his praise for good moves
cyan elm
Pert converted me to Lichess
dusky hull
its better
cyan elm
Agreed
dusky hull
premoves are faster, analysis tool is stronger, zero paywalls
cyan elm
Except new account means i have to shit on a bunch of scholars mate players
Why does anyone play this dogshit
dusky hull
because theyre convinced that the majority of players wont see it
cyan elm
Surely the novelty wears off pretty quickly
dusky hull
you think that, and then you get to like the 1000-1400 range where people play the englund gambit nonstop
dusky hull
at a low elo, players try to just emulate opening traps that they saw once or twice
which is why im big on move order changes
cyan elm
Also they probably only have the brain capacity for 4 moves ahead
And only if it’s scripted
dusky hull
I just like simple chess following opening principles
and this is how you get better
cyan elm
dusky hull
use principles, get better at pattern recognition, and then understand when to break principles
cyan elm
Yis
Whenever engine tells me I should’ve broken one it hurts me greatly
THE RULES GODDAMN IT
dusky hull
holy shit
cyan elm
what
cyan elm
i just played a game where i sacrificed the queen... twice
sir you said it wrong
dusky hull
oh sorry right
cyan elm
and he sacrifices HIS QUEEN
cyan elm
and then he sacrificed A SECOND QUEEEEN
dusky hull
dude no but for real
look at this game
its not the most accurate game ive ever played but these 2 back to back queen sacs are beautiful
cyan elm
C4 
dusky hull
like yea i couldve played better if i thought more about the position, but as soon as i saw i could give up the first queen for an attack i was like of course im doing that
dusky hull
@tardy finch can i give you my sacs 
woeful wolf
I just had someone think for 43 seconds (longer than any other move) to decide to trade their queen for a bishop
I’m not convinced that he wouldn’t be better just playing the fried liver and scholars every game
Most of these people know 1-2 of the opening moves or saw a video of some gambit
woeful wolf
I don’t see how the bishop move was brilliant and the rook move wasn’t at least great
dense pewter
En Passant
woeful wolf
I see el passant possible
I play el passant
Thems the rules
@dense pewter you playin some of them chess
dense pewter
I did play when i was a wee lad
now i just browse the memes
Ain't got time for chess.
Am birding
woeful wolf
woeful wolf
Gotta make the opportunity
When dabbi sperging in the chat
Go do something that helps brain not damage it
woeful wolf
I trashed my elo to 850 playing the grob
Matched against a 1376 currently
Seems balenced maybe I’ll learn something
woeful wolf
I’m playing someone 500 rating above me
I need some numbing crème not luck
Ah chess.com disconnected me
Neat
tardy finch
You know what makes sure the ISP won't mess with the game? Playing over the board.
dusky hull
true
play the grob in person and see the gasps on their face
asiano do you wanna see a bishop mate that i got on a really inexperienced player
it was basically bullying but its a nice mate
tardy finch
play in the park
Grob attack
Alessi gambit
nearby IM pukes
mom faints
not even pigeons want to come close to this filth
tardy finch
asiano do you wanna see a bishop mate that i got on a really inexperienced playe...
Sure
dusky hull
this guy in a different discord was talking about chess and said he bets no one in the discord is actually good at the game
so i figured why not lemme just throw a chal and see what happens
and then he hung a pawn and then a bishop and then i got a bishop mate so like idk
probably some form of cyber bullying
dusky hull
lmao to be fair its not like its a chess discord
but i think he was surprised that i wasn't just hanging pieces left and right
tardy finch
It's precisely when the topic is not one of mutual interest that you find the wildest of wildcards
At one guild meeting we had 3 out of 4 people at the table cheat at cards hardcore and we never intended to play in the first place.
tardy finch
Isn't it past 1AM in Perturbland? And it's a work day tomorrow?
dusky hull
yea and i have to be up even earlier for oracle database patching
but guess who cant sleep :)
tardy finch
Just call in dead
dusky hull
lmao
i fuckin wish
im also playing a weird fuckin game rn
asiano
what the fUck is this game
1:40am pert is a chess prodigy
(ignore the fact that i made a mate in 3 much harder than it needed to be ok ty)
tardy finch
It just evolved into mate in 10 or something
dusky hull
yea i mean i just saw that h7 was crushing and stopped looking
sad i didnt find the clean ending but oh well
tardy finch
One thing though - why Kf1?
dusky hull
sort of two reasons. the pawn structure ended up resembling like a french advanced, and Kf1 is a usual move from white in the french. i didnt want to castle because i wanted to keep my rook on h1.
second reason is i thought at some point i'd need to solidify b5 with a4 (wasnt necessary in game) and a3 was the only thing controlling the b4 square which is a common check for black
so i figured Kf1 allows me to play a4 in the future if i wanted to
in hindsight its not a required move, but it was based more on knowledge of similar positions and not me reading the current position if that makes sense
tardy finch
What doesn't make sense is you playing defensive moves 
dusky hull
lmao listen man if ive learned something from playing against my coach, its that attacks are more successful if you don't give your opponent cheeky defenses
it was a misread, but i was trying to avoid a cheeky defense down the line
tardy finch
Your coach is a bully 
dusky hull
check out this crazy game i played against a 2350 blitz player. they definitely showed their experience in flagging, which is a skillset i really do not have, so good on them. but ultimately a fantastic game that i was proud to lose (i am black here) https://lichess.org/vfQlYEWn/black#1
void bramble
What is flagging
dusky hull
playing moves expediently with the intention of running out your opponent's clock
void bramble
Oh I like doing that too
dusky hull
yea its something i need to force myself to get better at. i really try to "solve" positions too often under time pressure instead of playing moves that should intuitively feel good/safe
void bramble
Do people look down at flagging as a strategy
dusky hull
i think that regardless whether people look down upon it or not, it's a required skill. like you can say you hate it all you want, but if its your only option to win and you're in a must-win situation, you're going to go for it i dont care who you are
the game i linked is a perfect example to be honest
white had no possible way of surviving this much longer. i even get them in a mating net in the last few moves. so literally the only way they could try to win is by making moves that dont lose immediately and force me to spend time thinking of how to win
and even if i want to be frustrated at that, i think the only rational frustration is that i wasn't faster or i didnt see the path to victory as quickly as i should
void bramble
dusky hull
which is more a testament of my weakness as a player and less about whether or not my opponent's strategy is reputable
so if anything yea it might be a bit scummy but you only have yourself to blame if you lose to it, you know
void bramble
Ye I konw 
dusky hull
right but whether or not you want it, it does exist regardless of what time control except correspondence which isnt real chess
woeful wolf
Doesn’t appeal to me
dusky hull
like even when you play 30m classical
thats still 30 minutes. sure you will likely finish your game well before that, but if you don't, then you feel the effect of time pressure anyway
woeful wolf
There’s a zero percent chance one of those games ends on time at my elo
Most are over faster than 10 min games
And yeah it’s a valid thing for sure
Just not a fan of it
dusky hull
word bird
void bramble
Looks like a cat imo
woeful wolf
dusky hull
woeful wolf
Though this game might end on time
dusky hull
<@171682145646018560> why do you speak so poorly of correspondence chess
the value of time to chess is the value of ammunition to soldiers. you can't fight a war without logistics; I think chess is on easy mode when you remove one of the key currencies of the game. its like putting bumpers up on a bowling lane, or like giving someone unlimited money from the bank when playing monopoly. but i also get that for some people bowling with bumpers up is more fun to them. i just don't see it that way.
dusky hull
the draw offer spam to force an early alt f4 is a valid strategy my son
woeful wolf
Wel
He finally resigned after realizing his position was lost
I can see why it would be hard to figure out and why he would offer a draw
Position was close
tardy finch
What is flagging
I am disappointed Pert didn't explain it with its origins. This is an old chess clock that is to be used at tournaments. The way it works is, you want to give each player 15 minutes, you set the time 15 minutes back(in the picture, set it to 2:45). If the button on top of a clock IS NOT pushed down, it moves. Before the game you push both down to an equal level.
Now look towards the little red arrow near the end of the minute hand's movement. That is what is called the flag - as you can see in the right clock, the minute hand pushes it up thus "raising" the flag. Running out of time means the flag would drop down.
Now I'll excuse myself for being insufferable with my explanations.
dusky hull
so with many of you playing the london, here's an example of a game against the london. many times, white is okay losing the dsb to either open up the h rook file for the attack or to purposely double the f pawns to get a really good grasp of e5. lately ive been countering this idea by delaying the capture of the dsb, only until i know where white wants to castle. if white castles short, i capture. if white castles long, i don't. seems to work out very well. i do make a mistake on move 16, so you know. dont hang a central pawn lol.
delicate peak
I don't play the London. I play the Mason Variation
woeful wolf
White made some really poor choices there but you really pulled him apart
dusky hull
yea by no means am i saying white played very well, but you'll see a recurring theme that many london players dont know how to deal with the position when the constant threat is to capture the dsb, but it is never actualized (or is at least very delayed)
with perfect play, its still totally fine for white, but because the usual plan in the london is to open up the h file to attack black, it can be quite jarring for them to figure out a different way to gain space
just wanted to throw that idea out there in case any of you happen to have trouble against this opening, since it can be a tough nut to crack
woeful wolf
I was kind of suprised by the e4xd4 instead of C3 and the queenside castle
and his pathing around move 32
in particular
though hes already lostthere
dusky hull
I was kind of suprised by the e4xd4 instead of C3 and the queenside castle
e or c xd4 shouldnt make tooooo much of a difference in the position, although you're right that cx is probably better since it preserves 2 central pawns. but i wouldnt say that was where he went at his wrongest
my guess to the decision to castle qs is because he was concerned with me compromising the pawn structure in front of the king after Nxg3, which is more to my point about why i like delaying the capture now
once i take on g3, i maintain the bishop pair, still have 2 central pawns, a semi open c file. white has more space but id wager that black will be preferred from any human perspective
so i can see why he wanted to go qs, but it just allowed me too much attacking chances
woeful wolf
I would think that plus the kingside castle would offer better potrection
and while its a less favorable pos
its more playable
dusky hull
for sure
leaves plenty of time for me to make a mistake, the game would go on
and that mightve been even more instructive from a how-to-beat-the-london pov
but we get what we get, yknow
dusky hull
hahahah
woeful wolf
I’ve prepared an instructional guide on how to play the grob
- Don’t play it
- Hope your opponent randomly resigns while 2.7+ up on analysis
- Don’t play it
dusky hull
i think people worry too much about computer analysis. like in your case, yea, 2.7 could mean you're just up a full piece. but ive seen positions where the engine analyzed it as something crazy like +4.5 but it required like 10 moves of perfect positional play to actualize that into a material advantage, which is something many, many chess players would not be able to see
If you just focus on playing pragmatically, you'll be doing just fine in 90% of positions
so yea keep playing your grob, bob
dusky hull
black to move
@woeful wolf this is an example of above where it seems like white can hold it together with a particular defense, but with strong positional play (combining with tactical ideas) white just crumbles. eval at this position is -5, but black would have to play very well to show the material advantage later
and its worth noting that the "particular defense" im mentioning is not the engine's recommended continuation.
dusky hull
sure
hint: ||if that pawn on c3 wasn't there, your dsb would be a monster. find a way to either force the removal of the pawn, or punish white for not moving it||
woeful wolf
i think people worry too much about computer analysis. like in your case, yea, 2...
to be clear he was up 2.7
dusky hull
that doesn't really matter to the point i was making
delicate peak
aight I concede its above my level
GL others
I believe I have ||nb4 cxb4 bxb2 and then I don't know White's continuation that doesn't just instantly lose||
woeful wolf
<@160563760585637888> this is an example of above where it seems like white can ...
if I had to guess || knight to b4 is nice if takes you get the rook and if doesnt take you get the rook, but prob lose a knight bishop for it worst case. ||
|| probably involces using the rook to pressure the knight if he moves it to try to take whites bishop since I think you can win that too||
dusky hull
answer: ||Nb4. If white doesn't respond at all, the threat is Nc2 picking up the rook. White has 2 main options which I will label the engine's defense and the "particular defense" i was referencing above
engine's defense: acknowledge you're worse. cxb4. from here you can either play Bxb2 which is probably the human approach, or the very fun cxb4. either way you're winning and you can consider those lines if you'd like.
particular defense: if white is very determined to try to hold on as maybe a human might, after Nb4 Na3 unblocking the rook and protecting c2. but then black has Nd3 going after the b2 pawn. white, trying to hold on, plays Rfb1 and now black would have to make a series of moves that just crunch down on the position. moves like a6, b5, a5, and what you'll notice is that white just has no good moves. his rooks would be tied to the defense of the a and b pawns. my knight on d3 is insanely powerful and probably worth more than a rook. my bishop pair eyes his queenside which is where my pawns are pushing, so eventually i'd just be breaking through.||
so yea, in the second line black is CRUSHING, but there's no clear material advantage until much, much later.
this is why eval bars kinda don't matter toooooo much for practicality. unless you're strong enough to find the positional ideas required to create the material advantage later, the eval bar could be entirely meaningless
and you should both stop being so hard on yourselves. you saw the first moves of the sequence which is very likely the hardest moves to find, and white would have an immensely difficult time parrying that, so well done
this is what the position would look like after white puts up the stubborn defense, if you're having trouble visualizing it
delicate peak
wait so I had it
dusky hull
yes :)
delicate peak
I figured I needed to calculate deeper
dusky hull
nope. after ||Bxb2, white admits that he will go down the exchange and plays something like Na3, you take the rook, rook takes back, and you're up an exchange heading towards a totally winning endgame||
the only thing you have to be aware of at that point as a player is that you have dark square weaknesses and white still has the dsb. so like dont hang a back rank mate as a result
delicate peak
right I ||thought na3 but I couldn't believe it was White's best option but I guess that's why he's losing||
dusky hull
yup. the engine's best recommendation is actually that simple
its when you deviate that the engine is like holy shit what are you doing and then it gets messy
and if you were curious in the slightly more fun approach for black, instead of ||Bxb2|| right away, you could do ||cxb4 as mentioned|| because your bishop threat still exists. best for white then is to just ||give the knight back Nc3 bxc3 bxc3 Bxc3|| and now black has the bishop pair which is looking at the key squares for your queenside pawns to push, is up a pawn and the knight on h2 is still totally trash.
but yea ultimately either way black does just fine
woeful wolf
dusky hull
I played 20-30 games against the same 2300 blitz player I mentioned before. but this time we played bullet
I lost like every single game
BUT
we played one 5+3
and i won
moral of the story is im fucking dogshit at 1+0, although i did manage to get objectively drawn positions against her (she beat me on time in those occasions)
dusky hull
here's the (only) game i won against her, but man it felt good to take a game https://lichess.org/0Nilw7k9#1
i am black here, if that was not clear
anyway, here's a fun game played by people much better than myself. white moves the king 3 times before move 20! https://lichess.org/3Jjrt6mq/black#1
cyan elm
moral of the story is im fucking dogshit at 1+0, although i did manage to get ob...
I tried some bullet for fun
completely different game
dusky hull
Yea you’re not joking. She’s like 2330 in bullet. Eventually I stopped trying to play real chess and started trying to get to the endgame as fast as I could because as long as I wasn’t getting crushed in an attack or flat out hanging pieces, I could reasonably try to hold out. But man time is such a factor.
I had some truly embarrassing losses before that mentality set in
cyan elm
also do you always play anon or do u have an account
dusky hull
I have 3 accounts
One is my main, one is my throwaway, and one is the one I created specifically for streaming tactics
Although I can reasonably get rid of the tactics one now or at least soon because the tactics rating is quickly approaching my other accounts anyway
tardy finch
If it works, it ain't stupid
dusky hull
sad part is it’s less about moving fast and more about thinking fast
Which I struggle with
tardy finch
Stop playing sharp openings. Play unorthodox traps and you'll be better off in bullet.
dusky hull
Performance enhancing drugs are strictly prohibited and violators are subject to account closure 
woeful wolf
woeful wolf
Stop playing sharp openings. Play unorthodox traps and you'll be better off in b...
Grobbin
dusky hull
Stop playing sharp openings. Play unorthodox traps and you'll be better off in b...
NO
and you can’t make me
tardy finch
Wayward queen is a fancier way of saying it
dusky hull
im gonna have to come up with a nice little trap for the next time i play that bullet champion
can you believe of all things that she's a bird specialist
like who knows f4 theory
void bramble
woeful wolf
woeful wolf
Moments before disaster
I don’t know why they take with bishop every time
It’s just
woeful wolf
I didn’t think about this during my game
However
Best move for white (black can do some fiddling around with a bishop but I don’t think the likely outcome changes and I’m not sure most players at my elo see it )
Prob too easy for mr pert but maybe azor or someone will enjoy
||Just an interesting idea to me of why which piece you trade matters||
dusky hull
yea its always good to inspect each way to capture. sometimes capturing with one piece is substantially better because it can unleash the power of a piece that wasn't originally doing much
here i dont think its too hard to figure out because f6 was played, and if there's one thing i keep telling you guys, dont play f3/f6 in the opening lol
i will say there are very particular opening lines where f3/f6 is theory/best move, but those lines are less than common and also require a good foundation before you can play them and not get annihilated
woeful wolf
I mean f3/f6 is the weakest point of the default position really
dusky hull
fast forward to me getting absolutely shit on by the bullet player friend after she played f3 on her opening move
dusky hull
I mean f3/f6 is the weakest point of the default position really
i think you meant f2/f7 but yes
woeful wolf
Ye
dusky hull
by playing f3/f6 you're doubling down on that weakness
dusky hull
nah i gotchu
woeful wolf
Blatant engine users on chess.com Wilding
Don’t understand how they can’t do anything about it
tardy finch
They do but take the approach of "Innocent until proven guilty"
tardy finch
Which means it takes a little time to prove your new account is using an engine and not just that you are a really really good player on a new account
tardy finch
I mean.. imagine some super GM making a throwaway account that started at 400 rating
woeful wolf
Tbh
tardy finch
It would be easy for them to get that accuracy and win all games for a long time
woeful wolf
I don’t like the idea of super GM smurfing
tardy finch
But it's not unheard of
woeful wolf
All that serves to do is abuse lower elo players
I’m unlikely to learn anything from that exp
If I am a 400
tardy finch
When you log in WoW and oneshot a murloc, is it because you want it to learn from that experience? Or is it because you found it fun to do?
And would you consider it an act of evil? Do you feel remorse or you just recognise yourself as a higher form of life?
In a world of smurfs, might is right.
woeful wolf
Is it fun for both players? It’s a 1 sided forgone conclusion from the start
Obviously it’s more fun to win than lose
But close games are fun
tardy finch
I mean, I can still play memes and lose as usual so it's not stopping me.
woeful wolf
But a game that you are gonna get guaranteed blown out on
Unless it’s “pertussy simulator”
Isn’t a fun one
tardy finch
I get your point. It's just that since we are pseudo anonymous, no one really cares about the other side.
You played the Grob because you found it fun for a while. Those poor people losing their rooks and ragequitting didn't.
woeful wolf
Yeah fair
The grob is still fun and knowing there’s a gm that plays basically only the grob
Encourages me to play it
However I need to practice other avenues to improve my grobbin
tardy finch
It could always be worse. You could be playing the London.
woeful wolf
My guild rdruid just started playing chess
And I reccomended he start with that
Til he learns and gets some games under his belt
tardy finch
I hope you step on a mechagnome
woeful wolf
He was starting with the scholors mate
So…
Every game…
It’s arguably better
At least he has to play this wa
And not just win or lose in a few moves
tardy finch
There are roughly 200k possible positions after two moves(each player) and somehow it's still the fucking London every time
dusky hull
smurfing in general is rampant across literally every game. you could argue the reason for it happening, but in my mind, its because better players like to capitalize on the mistakes of weaker players and those mistakes either don't happen at all or don't happen nearly as frequently at the level they play.
these mistakes are usually in the fundamentals of the game, which then allow the smurf to capitalize in virtually any fashion they please. examples like Rocket League where poor rotations result in goals; overwatch, where poor positioning can lead to death very quickly; or chess, where exposing oneself unnecessarily (such as playing f3/f6 as in the prior conversation) will lead to a very difficult position to defend.
i dont think its impossible for good players to have high acc% if they're smurfing because the moves theyre choosing to punish mistakes are likely intuitive for them, much as capturing with the knight in storms last example would be intuitive for me. but with that said, fuck chesscom because its anticheat is so much worse than lichess
tardy finch
Only one way to be sure - ban speedrun any%
dusky hull
woeful wolf
woeful wolf
Ponziani is fun
tardy finch
It's one of the safer gambits, doesn't leave you that much worse if it fails but gives you a soul crushing position if it works
This what will probably become known as the stormvine variation over the next few days and the blunder in it is something that many people can overlook
- e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Ne7 6. Nxe5 d6 7. Bb5+ c6 8. dxc6 Qb6 9. cxb7+ Kd8 10. Nxf7+ Kc7 11. bxa8=N+
dusky hull
Yea that’s pretty dirty
woeful wolf
It’s good for sure
tardy finch
Damn, new features
woeful wolf
He says that to me every move
woeful wolf
I should of pushed the pawn sooner and I’m not sure why I didn’t
And while I did blunder 2 pieces
I’m happy with the results
@tardy finch the Stormvine variation is the one where you blunder the pieces but still get there
tardy finch
Stick to the variation! Move 9 you are winning if you go for cxb7
Your queen looks vulnerable but in fact cannot be taken. After cxb7+, even if black captures the bishop, you take the rook and promote to a queen. Black STILL can't take your queen or you have mate in 1.
Ponziani works well because the traps are tempting and it's easy to miss little details like the white queen being literally immortal
woeful wolf
woeful wolf
Your queen looks vulnerable but in fact cannot be taken. After cxb7+, even if bl...
White queen(s)
All of my pawns are queens (potentially)
woeful wolf
Ah the usual
Account made 9 min ago
Blunder
Offer draw
Spam draw for a while til they realize I don’t see it
Afk for 25 min hoping I will dc or quit
Frantically play moves for last 2-3 min
tardy finch
I sincerely hope anyone who plays the Italian has a piss day
Well, fuck you too 
woeful wolf
tardy finch
I love how our Belarusian antagonist saw the threat of a fork and addressed it then two moves later forgot about the whole thing and walked back into it
tardy finch
There is a concept you might have heard - "put pressure on the pinned piece". In this position, black tried doing just that and it was in fact a mistake. Try to find the line and THEN check the spoilers to see how bad it can get out of nowhere.
||White doesn't need the queen! Bxf4 serves the queen on a silver platter while also forcing black to take it as otherwise this would spell doom. After Rxd1+, Rxd1 from white is pretty much forced as it is the only move that doesn't lose and is a perfectly natural response.
Now here.... Many would think the bishop on f4 is just hanging, so black completely smashed the position, right? If Qxf4, white can pull off a magnificient Rd8+ which in turn wins both the queen and the knight in forced moves while only trading this one rook leading to the position in the spoiler.||
dusky hull
a slightly more efficient (but completely moot since both positions are totally winning) line for white at the end is ||if black plays Qxf4, Rd8+ Ne8 Rexe8 (instead of Rdxe8) Kf7 Rf8+ Ke7 Rde8+ Kd7 and Ne5 where if black doesn't want to give up the queen for nothing, he'll sac it for the knight, leaving white with 2 rooks vs 1 bishop instead of 1 rook 1 knight vs bishop||
still really nice find starting with ||Bxf4||
cyan elm
tardy finch
one move later
What's long and black? The eval bar
tardy finch
@modern vector I hereby invite you to the secret room. Reason:
#🐲-wow-chat message
tardy finch
Now play Pert 
modern vector
ok your turn
void bramble
@dusky hull how are your paint skills
tardy finch
dusky hull
what in the fuck is going on here lol
modern vector
what in the fuck is going on here lol
chess
dusky hull
whats that
modern vector
if you played in TBC there was a boss towards the end of kharazan that was like a board game and people liked it so much they turned it into a real game
kinda confusing at first but v fun!
cyan elm
whats that
google en passant
dusky hull
thats wild
woeful wolf
whats that
It’s a game with 34 rules. It’s easy but you gotta read them. Google “rule 34 chess” for the full list
tardy finch
If you want to google something chess related, I suggest it is the Petrov. That opening has big dick energy.
woeful wolf
woeful wolf
dusky hull
If you want to google something chess related, I suggest it is the Petrov. That ...
petrov has some really cool lines but also some really boring ones
at the highest level it can effectively be used as a draw offer
but it has the power to become very spicy very fast
if we're talking meta, the big dick energy openings are usually the imbalanced ones. nimzo indian, sicilians, french (not exchange var)
big dick energy openings are usually characterized by poison pawns littering the board like mines. "suuuure, take that b pawn. go crazy. one point of material is worth it to you? who am i to object."
woeful wolf
I prefer the counter cum assblast gambit-Stormvine variant or the Grob, normal gambits sane people play
dusky hull
true
woeful wolf
The aftermath is basically both people are miserable and have an unplayable postion
woeful wolf
big dick energy openings are usually characterized by poison pawns littering the...
Basically any game with me
dusky hull
wouldnt know because you refuse to play me
tardy finch
Storm, don't be a bitch, play Pert for our entertainment
dusky hull
storm gonna find himself a new profession as an archeologist with discoveries like that
tardy finch
I prefer the counter cum assblast gambit-Stormvine variant or the Grob, normal g...
May I remind you this was his previous discovery?
dusky hull
he's just a little eccentric
woeful wolf
May I remind you this was his previous discovery?
Look you tell me what’s wrong with that gambit and I’ll stop playing it
tardy finch
How about we settle this like men with a coin toss?
void bramble
How would a woman settle it
void bramble
Heads
tardy finch
Since you wasted the coin, the easy way out is gone.
I hereby challenge you to a gambit match to the death. Best of 3, if it's a tie, grob Armageddon to settle the score.
You have 30 hours to prepare @woeful wolf
void bramble
What did you win <@510249216556400641>
apparently a match to the death
woeful wolf
Since you wasted the coin, the easy way out is gone.
I hereby challenge you to ...
If I grob are you borging
tardy finch
Deal
tardy finch
"This opening is powered by the most abundant renewable resource in existence - human stupidity."
I'm sold
Not hating on this but I had a bad feeling about it which Stockfish evaluated as -5 by move 5
woeful wolf
dusky hull
idk i find videos like this really pointless
dusky hull
no offense to you but when there are particular responses that merit a "you can just resign here" its like whoops, they didnt fall for your prank, guess you just lose now
dusky hull
right lmao
woeful wolf
I played a casual game vs a 200
And he was moving his king back and forth for no reason at one point
I looked at his game history and saw this gem
woeful wolf
Casual is actually wonderful
Spam draw
Idle for 25 min after you blunder your pieces
Classic
Chef kiss
dusky hull
Oh that’s a good one
tardy finch
I only play 30 minute games while I'm raiding so I can blitz between pulls
woeful wolf
I only play on the toilet so I can blitz between wipes
These casual games are great
Take the enemy queen and they resign
tardy finch
@woeful wolf did you prepare for the gambit death match or we postpone for friday so we get hammered as well
void bramble
Are you streaming it for spectators
cyan elm
1400 off the porcelain throne, 2300 on it
is the tech to bring a toilet to tournaments so you can shit on these scrubs
tardy finch
Kramnik v2.0
tardy finch
Black queen speedrunning life
dusky hull
Yea I mean you’re winning a knight at least. Poor guy didn’t see the queen sac in time
woeful wolf
Just remember
the best way to unpin a piece is to sacrifice the piece behind the pin
dusky hull
true tbh
delicate peak
Instructions unclear, blundered m1
dusky hull
@woeful wolf i wrote you a novel. im sorry in advance
feel free to not read
not gonna comment on most of the game because i think you could look at the board and figure out better moves if you give yourself some time, but i think a good learning opportunity arises on 23. Nxh8.
Sometimes if you've really outplayed your opponent you'll have the opportunity to win material in multiple ways. Such an occasion is on the board as you fork the rook and the bishop. If you take the rook as you did, you'd be up a whole rook. but the position on the board is that black has that pawn really close to promotion and it promotes on a dark square, which is really important because thats the color of bishop your opponent has.
So after 23. Nxh8, black gets to stay in this game with a move like Bd2 attacking your rook. you don't get the luxury of saying "its cool, im gonna give up an exchange since im up a whole rook" because of 2 facts: 1) your knight is actually trapped on h8 currently, and more importantly 2) you need both rooks to stop the promotion.
So you say okay im going to block the promotion square 24. Ra1 but now this allows black to assume the diagonal that protects the promotion square ...Bc3 once again attacking your rook. and now if you look at what happened, 2 moves ago you were like oh shit free rook, but only 2 moves later and your rooks are crippled on the back rank, while your knight is trapped. You're up a full piece with literally no piece to move. Best for white imo is to just push kingside pawns and try to force an escape square for the knight but its not going to be easy. Position is so hard for white to prove that he's up material. Likely will end up giving back the exchange and losing the knight.
So let's rewind. If we go back to that critical point where you're forking two pieces and both appear free, don't necessarily think in terms of point value. Think about what the pieces are currently doing on the board. The rook on h8, for all intents and purposes, is harmless; its files are blocked by pawns and the threat of Rb8 isn't actually bad (calculating that takes a bit of effort but not horrible). The bishop, however, has a full reign on the dark squares and can get to guard the promotion square.
oh but i loved the mate. the pawn protecting e7 is delightful
dusky hull
i enjoyed playing this one https://lichess.org/e9ZPasch/white#1
games where i don't drop the eval bar from + to - make me happy, even if the mate wasn't especially exciting
tardy finch
It's as exciting as you let it be. Technically it was mate in 7 you found and executed flawlessly to the point your opponent decided to not even try and defend it
dusky hull
yea i saw stockfish say that but honestly i didnt see the mate in 7. i just saw that if i cut off the light squares the king was stuck and my bishop wasnt doing anything. i figured i could always bring the rook to the file later but didnt want the king to run next turn
tardy finch
Technically, bringing the rook is how you guarantee mate no matter what is played afterwards.
woeful wolf
not gonna comment on most of the game because i think you could look at the boar...
Keep in mind I am mostly playing on work calls
That was deffo not my finest game
I just thought it was funny that he was fixated on horsy
This game I played really good I think minus one hanging pawn
But it’s hard to say since my opponent played really bad
Opinions on holloween gambit?
@dusky hull @tardy finch
It looks on paper not great to trade that material but the win rate is high and it seems solid in practice
Also I played really good here in this game because my opponent played really bad
My accuracy off the chain in that one
woeful wolf
Pert can’t handle those gambits
They are too cooked
Man out here playing principled chess while me and asiano roll in the mud and sling groboween jerome counter gambits at each other
dusky hull
woeful wolf
For real though @dusky hull thoughts on holloween gambit
dusky hull
It’s hope chess
You make a less than ideal sacrifice and hope that black doesn’t know the continuation
Can work on moderately high level opponents because many people don’t study it so they can fall victim to the trap but like once they lose to it once they’ll go learn it and never lose to it again
Will probably work against virtually any lower rated opponent except ones who saw chess YouTubers doing videos on it
cyan elm
You make a less than ideal sacrifice and hope that black doesn’t know the contin...
so basically its the step up from playing scholars?
dusky hull
I mean scholars mate doesn’t involve a sac but there is a hope element behind it so kinda
woeful wolf
I mean scholars mate doesn’t involve a sac but there is a hope element behind it...
It involves a different kind of sac
dusky hull
That’s a very good cage
tardy finch
Do you ever look at things and wonder how they got there?
dusky hull
Rook: yup, that’s me. you’re probably wondering how I got here
void bramble
woeful wolf
I actually hate chess.com showing the opening name because esp in longer format games
People stop to google the opening then play the best moves against it, esp when I play a less common in the elo opening
Which objectively is probably cheating at worst case and annoying at best case
woeful wolf
Nothing wrong with the Jerome gambit at all
Just hang on for the wild ride til they blunder
Try not to blunder too much yourself
dusky hull
take your king on a walk sometimes, he's got so much pent up energy
woeful wolf
analysis bar lookin like
I really miosplayed on move 9
I should of played D4 instead of G3
dusky hull
had this position in a blitz game as black. in this position there are maybe 3 decent options for white. my opponent did not find any of them. here, he plays the move c4.
my challenge for you is try to find any of the 3 good moves for white instead of c4, and once you've done so, you should also reasonably arrive to a conclusion of what i played to punish his decision.
void bramble
I have not spent much time thinking about this so maybe I'll be way off, but I will guess || qc4, g3 and a6. Then punishment is...f3? ||
dusky hull
i realized i typed a massive wall of text
and im not sure if that's what people want
so ill just say ||correct on the second part, incorrect on the first||
void bramble
I've been laying here watching you type and getting a sentence that short was jarring
void bramble
You paste that wall of text now
dusky hull
IM WRITING MORE WWAIT
void bramble
Apparently I'm good at punishment but not doing the correct thing
I'M MAKING A JOKE WHILE YOU TAKE FOREVER CALM YOURSELF
Next time you ctrl x the wall of text you don't just delete it
dusky hull
whats funny about your try is that you actually got the second part of the challenge without the first. so yea you're correct on the second part. the first:
||problem with qc4 is after Kb8 moving away from the semi open file, white doesnt really have anything after the check. the position is still really hard to defend. blacks g rook can always swing back to the now unoccupied c8 square, where it will be powerful in targeting whites backwards c pawn.
problem with g3 is it just exposes the king a bit too much when white is already coming under serious flak. blacks dsb can open up any time, the g file is great for attack for the rooks, and especially after black responds with fxg3, white is suffering
you said a6. that and b6 are the moves i was expecting people to say. the problem is that its actually just too slow. black's attack is happening faster. for a similar reason as c4 is bad, f3 counters both a6 and b6.
both are actually super interesting to look at. starting with a6
if 21. a6 f3 , if you dont capture the pawn on b7 then a6 was totally pointless right, so 22. axb7+ Kxb7 and now there's nothing white can do to black's king, who seems exposed but is actually really safe there. and despite pushing a6 and "exposing" blacks king, it hasn't changed the problem that your own king faces.
if 21. b6 f3 , again if you dont capture then b6 was pointless so 22. bxa7 fxa2 23. a8=Q+ Kb7 white temporarily gives up the queen to get it back with promotion and check, but the king once again can hide safely on b7 and now what does white even do? after the king moves, its a discovery from the rooks onto the queen on a8 AND that pawn on e2 is attacking the rook on f1. white cant hold on to this position any longer.||
void bramble
I was reading the spoiler and you editing it made it black again
dusky hull
get rekt
void bramble
Appreciate my joke while I read
dusky hull
||the only way white can kinda keep the game going instead of c4 is to understand the position revolves around the threat of f3 because the rook on g8 is so powerful. white has to accept that their attack is simply not fast enough, so they need to handle whats going on on their kingside. there are 3 decent ways of dealing with it. they can either take the pawn with the knight, take it with the bishop, or they can move the king to h1 alleviating the pressure that the g rook is exerting. and whether or not they take wwith the bishop or knight, my idea was to play Rg4, attacking the piece and getting a free rook lift so i could double rooks on the g file. its probably survivable for white but really hard to play||
void bramble
|| I actually considered both the knight and the bishop taking that pawn but it's bad math so I assumed it wasn't good ||
Didn't think of the third at all
|| I'm still at the puzzle rating where it doesn't want me to do stuff like that though ||
dusky hull
well the thing about puzzles on chess sites is that 99.9% of the time, it is about winning the game or winning material. very rarely do you have to find ||defensive|| options in puzzles
void bramble
That's unfortunate
dusky hull
those kinds of options require a different thought process entirely. with regular puzzles, it is usually about pattern recognition and # of attackers (at least basic puzzles). with these, it is about positional understanding.
dusky hull
lol all good. thats why i like to show things like this from my own games
i think it highlights different parts of chess that you wouldnt usually see. like how often do chess youtubers talk about finding ||defensive|| resources when they could talk about sacrificing THE ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
void bramble
Keep up the wall of texts. I read them even when someone else answers
I think you should spoiler the whole last bit there in case someone is considering that as an answer
Thank you for the puzzle now I sleep cuz it's almost midnight
woeful wolf
Yes but
When do we see pert play the grob
I need it pert
My clown brain needs to see pert clown someone
dusky hull
Thank you for the puzzle now I sleep cuz it's almost midnight
gngn
dusky hull
My clown brain needs to see pert clown someone
lmao im not good enough to win against someone around my own level by playing handicapped
dusky hull
@woeful wolf dismantling stupid terrible positions since 1994 https://lichess.org/zZT2PXqy/white#1
im just afraid of this happening to me if i play grobby
cyan elm
@dusky hull rate my checkmate
cyan elm
bullet is wild
woeful wolf
lmao im not good enough to win against someone around my own level by playing ha...
I beat people my level all the time with this stuff
However they are just not very good
modern vector
Y’all ever play autochess in here?
woeful wolf
Be chess.com player
Black pieces
Play Scandinavian defense for some reason
Blunder queen on first 5 moves
Why does it keep happening. I just get anoyed when people my elo play the Scandinavian since I know the blunder is coming
See pert I am playing at my true elo
tardy finch
bullet is wild
I straight up read the name as Woodsystd and wondered why you would call yourself that on a chess site... Or anywhere, really
dusky hull
<@171682145646018560> rate my checkmate
dope
dusky hull
See pert I am playing at my true elo
scandi players, bless their hearts
lichess daily puzzle is an elegant one today. 2046 at the time of completion https://lichess.org/training/pbatY
if you're having trouble seeing it, hint: ||the queen and the bishop form a battery||
woeful wolf
scandi players, bless their hearts
I just get mad when I see it
It feels like a horrible defense
dusky hull
and thats coming from the guy who plays the grob
so you know he knows what hes talking about
the scandi is so silly
but it is fun to play time to time
asiano and i had some fun scandi games a long time back
void bramble
Only scandi I know is flick
dusky hull
?
void bramble
It's a car joke
dusky hull
im sorry im the exact wrong demographic for that joke
somehow ive gone most of my adult life never learning the names of cars
void bramble
It's not the name of a car; it's a turn
dusky hull
am i having a stroke or am i too high for what you're referring to
dusky hull
OH I JUST GOOGLED IT
okay i never knew what that was called
like ive seen clips of nascar or whatever and obviously that can happen
ive learned something today
dusky hull
thanks lol
dusky hull
never that
woeful wolf
My man stalling
Just resign
21 min adult tantrum
I need to get to my true elo
(100)
Asap
tardy finch
Stop shittalking the Scandinavian, it's a legit opening
woeful wolf
woeful wolf
@dusky hull how would you evaluate this position
I’m wanting the pert vs Stockfish eval
dusky hull
Gonna just talk in generic foundational principles who is ahead:
King safety: white
Development: white
Central control: white (5 pieces+pawn vs 2 pieces+2 pawns)
Pawn structure: clearly white
Attacking chances: probably white due to owning more space
Whites probably close to accumulating a winning advantage
If I had to guess at the eval bar maybe +4? Idk roughly somewhere around there
Oh and white has the bishop pair, another bonus
If I’m totally wrong I reserve the right to call an audible because I’m on 2 hours of sleep
dusky hull
2.9? Sure there we go
Close enough
White could only be better in the position you sent
tardy finch
At least here is still a safe haven from April's fools
