also @wicked trout does this mean we go
#♟️Chess
dusky hull
choose the time control because i dont remember what we did last time
wicked trout
so dont @me for whatever happens
dusky hull
ill just do 5+3 since its what i basically always play
wicked trout
👍
wicked trout
mehh miscalculated that
eh, i think im chilling for now, still kinda doing my discussion thing lol
dusky hull
sure
wicked trout
cheers for the game tho
dusky hull
lmk if you wanna play more in the future homie
yeye
anyone else for a game or are we chillin tonight
@woeful wolf @left glade @rigid perch
rigid perch
I'm almost falling sleep
dusky hull
rigid perch
I'd do so many blunders
dusky hull
its ok, i blundered a bishop on move 6 earlier today
dusky hull
damn you played that great towards the end
dusky hull
astoundingly, thats like 50% of chess
half of it is spotting the idea, the other half is whether or not your opponent allows it
if he allows it, then fuckin dope, gg
woeful wolf
I think my endgame is generally stronger than my open
I tried to play the cursed opening
And he said no
Perts fav opening that is
London
dusky hull
i very much stand by the fact that it is a good opening for beginners because it is a flexible opening for virtually whatever black does
the problem with the London is that the higher up in the ranks you go, the less you can get wins out of it, and that is because it is just not aggressive enough. It gives black all of the options black wants. and when youre playing white and not going for a win, you're just not playing chess
granted, magnus plays the london against super gms and squeaks out dubs, so what do i know
cyan elm
which is why im saying you can totally play the london
screenshotted
cyan elm
I'm a free man
cyan elm
immortal game really
woeful wolf
Blunder early and often
dusky hull
this guy told me he was collecting cutlery so I gave him the best fork I could https://lichess.org/z7GkuvIt/black#1
@woeful wolf your forks inspired me to create this
tardy finch
Actual god tier fork
woeful wolf
Got above 1k thanks work calls
No spicy forks just my opponent blundering a rook queen and bishop
tardy finch
Ah, another splendid defense as black
dusky hull
Got above 1k thanks work calls
Letsgooooo
dusky hull
Would anyone like to play soon
cyan elm
sure
dusky hull
The rare woodsy acceptance. I’m hype
@cyan elm https://lichess.org/PZAN9guR
@cyan elm word
woeful wolf
@dusky hull
Big nut ending
I was saying
no way he falls for it
but the big fork temptation too strong
I played like shit the rest of the game
dusky hull
honestly im really glad you saw the mating attack
yea sure the rest of the game we could dissect about what you mightve tried differently, but recognizing his weak dark squares and opening up the a file, really good job
woeful wolf
Starting to think my early game just bad
I’m not sure why I was freely allowed to bully this man
tardy finch
It's quite rare to see the position sit at -1.5 after one move and black hasn't even started
To put into perspective how bad g4 is, evaluation states that it's better to start without even having the g pawn than to move it to g4
dusky hull
I call this picture “Harem”
tardy finch
It's surprisingly challenging to not stalemate with 8 queens while you are trying to get #9
woeful wolf
Worst possible move he could of made
I was plotting “how do I make him move there” and he just randomly did it
rigid perch
At least it's just your early game
I passed a week without playing and I'm losing games all around because of time
dusky hull
when you take an extended break, its always helpful to play a longer time control when coming back
at least for me, anyway
I usually just spit out 5+3 games in my freetime, but when I want to play seriously or when I'm coming back after a break, I play 10+0 or 10+3
rigid perch
Yeah, I usually play 5+0, gonna crank some 10 min games
rigid perch
Just blundered my win, uninstalling chess
dusky hull
a few days ago i was completely winning and then threw my queen onto the completely wrong square
if my opponent saw the right continuation, i wouldve went from crushing to completely drawn
it happens. you just gotta beat yourself up about it constantly. make it all you can think about. let it consume you. let the anger towards yourself drive your next game.
dusky hull
Scholars mate failed and he gave up lol
tardy finch
go for scholar's mate
ignore all logic
fail miserably
refuses to elaborate
leave
I think we found the SL Sylvanas of chess. And it was all part of the plan.
woeful wolf
That’s like 30% of the games at this elo
This guy I’m playing now is like unaware of my pieces
Though I think he maybe rage quit
I’ll post the game after but this is at move 7
dusky hull
What’s that
woeful wolf
I’m having fun but I’m not climbing much over 1050
I’m too bad 
I enjoyed this game
I don’t think he did
But I did
He had so many chances to have a different outcome but
woeful wolf
Bruh, I'm literally at the same elo
Are you? I thought you were like a 1600 boi
tardy finch
I don't play rated much and when I do, I make some stupid move, rage, make more stupid moves and just tank rating for hours
Still, just to clarify, my average play is nowhere near 1600. I have my moments of brilliance but they only that, moments.
tardy finch
@woeful wolf I challenge thee
But only if you accept in the next 2 minutes, not much time on my hands
woeful wolf
Sadly at work
tardy finch
So that's a yes?
tardy finch
Technically you're pushing pawns. And maybe rating.
dusky hull
Still, just to clarify, my average play is nowhere near 1600. I have my moments ...
???
tardy finch
Don't you dare argue, you chess engine
dusky hull
your average play makes me fuckin work for it and im somewhere around 1900-2000. aint no way your average play is 1600
1600s push pawns with literally no thought and leave massive gaps in their lines
tardy finch
That's because I play you. I prepare some weird shit to throw you off, get my cat to study positions with me and usually play on angy juice. When I play other people, I leave one single braincell on and that one is responsible for stuffing my face with food.
dusky hull
imagine if you prepare some weird shit for everyone you play then
tardy finch
You saw me the other day, I lose on clock, I lose on moves, I do stupid crap, I underestimate ideas.
dusky hull
play longer time controls then
dusky hull
10+0 solid for the majority of players until you get like itsy and your brain requires SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
tardy finch
You know what, let's call it here. I have a side project that is taking a lot of my time currently. It has a floating end date but the absolute maximum is end of March. Once I am done, I start a fresh Lichess account and play only 10 minute time controls. Place your bets where I'll be standing after 30 games.
dusky hull
30 rapid games, 1450
tardy finch
I am calling 980
dusky hull
unless your first like 5 games are against 1500+ players
because the calibration is the largest in the beginning
tardy finch
Everyone else who has played me(or will play me in that time period) is free to give their estimate. I guarantee that everyone will be giving numbers too high.
dusky hull
well if you can manage to get your rating as low as 1, you'll be as good as mittens
so just keep that in mind
dusky hull
i could show you games to disprove that theory if you'd like
they make me look like a fucking imbecile that has trouble walking and breathing simultaneously
woeful wolf
If you made pert sweat we need to check you for beads
tardy finch
You missed some ideas that would have made for a truly crushing position(like Qd4 on move 13) but then more than made up for it with the queen attack. Nicely done, friend.
woeful wolf
Real talk is I didn’t want to lose the rook
That I later decided to just let him take
tardy finch
Here's another unorthodox challenge from a game I just played. Black is losing here, no doubt. However, there are only two moves here that don't lead to forced mate - e5 and Qxc6. Why?
woeful wolf
Man, some of these games are 1 sided but at least they didnt try to scholors mate me
tardy finch
Either Qh6+ on move 16 or the dsb capture you found but a move earlier(it was hanging on move 9)
You'll have to go into analysis as "missed win" is not a mating pattern you missed but a huge advantage swing that would have pushed you from already being better to crushing. Usually 6 or more iirc.
Actually Qh6+ is probably the better candidate as I managed to force a win out of Stockfish from that position. Then again, I have to play just a handful of moves before I can get to a forced mate (I may have had to take back a move or two, don't judge)
woeful wolf
Man, really Sussed by the game I just played
Dude afked for 12 min straight then made all of his moves .1 second of it being his turn and just shredded me
tardy finch
He just got a nice good shot of speed
tardy finch
So it's the bishop capture, ok
tardy finch
I am starting to notice a pattern between stormvine winning and forks appearing on the board 
delicate peak
man drills a thousand fork puzzles a day
woeful wolf
I am starting to notice a pattern between stormvine winning and forks appearing ...
Me running when I see a fork
void bramble
https://tenor.com/view/meme-funny-fork-snapchat-gif-26518747
Settle down, forker 
dusky hull
tanked my elo
1069 to 1030
my brother thats 39 points. thats like a small dip
you get that back like tomorrow
rigid perch
I had dreams of 1400, now I'm below 1100
woeful wolf
1009
Literally blunder machine
Getting angy
The more angy I get the more I blunder
How low do I go
Guessing 700
void bramble
If you blunder when you're angy maybe you need a break
woeful wolf
I literally do but too angy need win
1002 and plummeting
Break time for real
Me and my rating this morning
No chess til tomorrow
delicate peak
This is your brain on tilt
dusky hull
i like the rook sac
tardy finch
Storm, listen to me
Get some sleep first. Not just a nap, I'm talking about that long deep sleep after you got your ass whooped as a kid.
If you are distraught in any way, your performance will naturally plummet.
woeful wolf
I was up at 300 yesterday and up til 11 and back up at 4
So I’m at work on conf calls
Tanking rating and listening to someone ramble
woeful wolf
Accidentally queue for 10 min game
Not bad
The tanking is commencing
I like my queen just chillin with his
Also
I love people who premove
tardy finch
Not a single game you've shown has you losing yet you claim you are "tanking" rating 
void bramble
Maybe you should show those ones in case people have tips
void bramble
If you blunder when you're angy maybe you need a break
I believe that was my tip for you
woeful wolf
I believe that was my tip for you
True enough was known before but hard to get off the tilt
More stubborn than angy on my part
tardy finch
In all honesty, don't play any opening that you don't really understand. Some make sense only if you actually know what their end goals are. If you don't understand any opening, well... There's the London.
tardy finch
Try playing the first two moves of the Reti/Grunfeld, you'll be fine with that much
woeful wolf
dusky hull
I wouldn’t even worry too much about openings. The way to reliably get to 1500 is get all of your pieces out, push central pawns, castle early, and play moves that don’t deteriorate your position. 10/10 times your opponent will make a blunder that you can capitalize on.
1500-2000 you probably need some theory. 2000-2200 you need theory. 2200+ you need Jesus probably.
cyan elm
I wouldn’t even worry too much about openings. The way to reliably get to 1500 i...
Can you start making bigger mistakes for me to capitalise on please
dusky hull
i literally hung my queen for leo not too long ago
the only way i can blunder bigger than hanging my queen is by hanging my king lol
tardy finch
Get a bong, I've heard good feedback. Don't know if it helps for chess though.
tardy finch
Pert can probably get away with that against me
dusky hull
tardy finch
O no 
dusky hull
probably wont win with the bongcloud, but i could maybe steal a few W's with the Hippo
delicate peak
this is fucking wild
the c-squared podcast (fabiano's) has a discord now
and they interact there a reasonable amount
can get some fucking tips from fabiano caruana
@dusky hull this has got to be your wettest dream
you can literally just talk shop with Fabi about chess/tata steel games/whatever tf
and a bunch of other GM's are hanging aroudn there too
Minh Le
dusky hull
I'd be far too embarrassed to ever communicate directly with people so far beyond my caliber of play
delicate peak
think you'd still be in the top 25% of that discord
dusky hull
ill join the discord to see the conversations, but i doubt id ever directly ask Fabiano Caruana a question lol
delicate peak
fair lol
dusky hull
good looks though, thank you
delicate peak
it's just so alien to my brain seeing the likes of Fabi discuss chess on a discord like it's this discord discussing Hunter shit
dusky hull
a game's a game
delicate peak
ye
its easy to forget with the prestige of WoW
and not only is chess only a game, it makes far less money on the competitive level than many video game esports
but it just has this goat status
dusky hull
yea, and its interesting to see chess modernize
makes you wonder if chess will always be part of human culture or if it'll eventually lose such popularity it dies as a world phenom
oh also idk if you recall a very long time ago we had a lengthy discussion about euro chocolates. i finally tried a toblerone
it was okay
delicate peak
... okay?!
dusky hull
yea it was okay
delicate peak
idk just an insane opinion to me
as far as chocolate goes I don't see how it could be improved
I mean
as far as storebought snack chocolate goes, of course
dusky hull
i totally see why it would be a go-to for many people
i just wouldn't get it on any average day
i'd have to be wanting it already
delicate peak
it just hits all the flavors you would want and it has both chewy and crunchy texture
dusky hull
right but sometimes i don't want both
delicate peak
well the chewiness is only if you let the chocolate melt away and you just have the chewy nougat
but if you eat it quickly
its mostly crunch
cuz the nougat doesnt get time to soften
anyway
I respect your opinion
but I have to ask
what do you prefer
over tobler
void bramble
@dusky hull don't trust him he's not going to respect it 🤣
dusky hull
my #1 snack bar of all time is the Reese's stick. chocolate, wafer, peanut butter, and I find it proportionally more pleasing than a regular reese's cup.
my #2 is Hershey's cookies and cream bar because there's really nothing else that hits that spot
my #3 is pretty much any aero bar. too good
but like obviously i grew up in america my whole life so i'd be more prone to enjoying american (sour) chocolate
void bramble
I only respect #2
dusky hull
i can maybe understand not liking reese's sticks but not liking aero bars is unheard of
i feel like if you give an aero to literally anyone in the world who is physically capable of eating and tasting it will enjoy it
void bramble
Am I about to die of starvation
dusky hull
have you actually had one or are you just in the mood to trash talk a chocolate bar
both are acceptable, im just curious now
void bramble
Yes I've had one. I haven't had a toblerone though
I haven't had a Reese's stick though because I don't like chocolate with peanut butter
I had a toblerone in my kitchen for a year and never tried it. It might even still be there
delicate peak
I do really like the aero bar texture thing they got going. Never tried any form of Reese, and I find Hershey's cookies and cream to be just horrible
void bramble
Maybe aero would be good if it was dark chocolate
tardy finch
Don't know which surprises me more, the chocolate conversation or the fact that someone needed help to learn how to mate with king/queen when even I can explain it in under a minute.
Sadly, I support the opinion that Toblerone is just okay. Even here it was always the luxurious one, not the tastiest.
void bramble
https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516
I'll consider it
delicate peak
Fun one Check out this #chess game: Ortenz777 vs Azortharion - https://www.chess.com/live/game/68730343321
I blunder a knight early but I manage to trap his queen and he tilts
cyan elm
I love comeback games like this
void bramble
I enjoyed that you didn't give up there @delicate peak ; I like the fights to the death
delicate peak
always play for stalemate
tardy finch
Found my motivational quote to go out there and hang my queen ❤️
"Remember: “checkmate in 8” means the opponent has 7 moves to blunder a faster mate"
tardy finch
The true elo farmers are not at the top but at the bottom. It's just that they are the ones getting farmed
woeful wolf
we are just commodities to be farmed and disposed of 
dusky hull
I'm posing a puzzle that has a fairly easy first task, and then a fairly advanced second task. Try to challenge yourselves 
Task 1: find the best move for white in this position
Task 2: if you can do that, then you've found ||e5||. Many things are winning after black plays ||Bxe5||, but to really challenge yourself, find the next two moves to keep your massive advantage if black were to respond with the tricky ||fxe5||. There's a lot of bad moves, there are two good moves, and there's one great continuation, so really try to think.
Task 1: ||e5, attacking the bishop and also opening up our bishop to attack the b7 square with our rook. no way for black to defend both threats.||
Task 2 good moves: ||after fxe5, you might be tempted to autopilot and recapture the pawn dxe5. Black would play Bxe5 and here you could go wrong with Rxb7+. After Kc8, its equal material and although white will be preferred, white probably isnt winning. best is Re1, attempting to kick the bishop from its strong square. white retains an advantage going into the endgame, but is still required to prove the win||
||another decent attempt after fxe5 is a5. Best for black is Rh5, and after we get in Bxb7+ (Rxb7 is slightly inferior) white will be better in the endgame||
Task 2 great moves: ||the best possible continuation for white after fxe5 is Rxb7+. Okay, you probably saw this much, but I asked you to find two consecutive moves. Black plays Kc8, avoiding discoveries. This is where you had to be creative. The very fun Bc6 is what you have to find here as virtually everything else gives up advantage. The idea behind Bc6 is you're taking away the d7 escape square from the king, and you're setting up a mating net. Black has only a few options and they're all bad; either black gets mated, or loses a lot of material to stop it.
Alternatively to Bc6, after Rxb7+ if you found Kc8 and then Ra7, this will suffice to be winning for white, but much less threatening and definitely less disrespectful||
Sorry for the massive wall of black ink, but I hope this was somewhat educational.
dusky hull
I like this position because it illustrates 3 important ideas for any level of chess player:
- when you see a good move, keep looking for a better one
||2. opportunities where you can create two threats with one move are usually very powerful - never stop looking for mate threats, even with queens off the board. your objective above all else in the game of chess is to checkmate the king. if you can't force it, threaten it.||
void bramble
Can't do it without looking like I'm trying to make an argument for a conspiracy theory
Didn't see || the second great move at all ||
void bramble
Yes, I considered referencing Charlie when I said it
dusky hull
Can't do it without looking like I'm trying to make an argument for a conspiracy...
Holy fuck you either are the world greatest serial killer hunter, or you’re a serial killer yourself
Either way I love the dedication as always
void bramble
I have a dark chocolate aero to try. Will report if it also sucks
It's fine; it's just milk chocolate that's gross
woeful wolf
Dark chocolate 🤤
dusky hull
Bd3!
I love it
man everyone is finding insane bishop moves today
asiano pulled off an insane positional move against me today with his bishop as well
didnt see it coming at all
tardy finch
asiano pulled off an insane positional move against me today with his bishop as ...
You forgot to mention that later I traded my king for a pawn which surprisingly is a losing exchange
woeful wolf
Well
Happy accident s
I had such a nasty attack lined up here
That right there
@dusky hull 
Also I know about the mate
Just had to fork
dusky hull
Lol sometimes the disrespect is warranted
Just be careful to not disrespect your opponent and then lose because you’ll get double the disrespect
dusky hull
lets test you
if white plays Qf2 as opposed to the Qc1 that was played, whats the best move 
you've got a nice lil idea
woeful wolf
Knight f3 which was my plan
That was the treat I had prepared to deliver them then they denied my fork
Heck even if they don’t move the queen I was still gonna f3 and take the queen or just mate rather
Queen d2 was about as good as it got for them really
I am clawing my way back to 1k
woeful wolf
tardy finch
stormvine back on the good stuff
dusky hull
anyone wanna play? i just got through doing the 3 hour battlebit playtest and now all i want to do is create violence
woeful wolf
stormvine back on the good stuff
Yeee booi
woeful wolf
I’m pulling myself up by my bootstraps
Almost to 950 again
Working my way back to 1100
tardy finch
I just drew one of the new chess.com bots because I didn't see a fork... From -5.6 straight to 0.0
Take lessons from stormvine's play, it could save your games
dusky hull
I almost beat Danny yesterday and then I blundered mate in 2 because I’m a big dumb idiot
I was gonna come back in here like hey y’all I beat a 2500 bot on my 6th attempt but no. Winning position completely thrown away because big dumb idiot
tardy finch
Big sad
woeful wolf
I just drew one of the new chess.com bots because I didn't see a fork... From -5...
Always be forkin
Resign or promote new knights asap if you ain’t got enough
6 is enough
woeful wolf
Reverse puzzle
What’s the worst possible move white has here
Solution (or I guess what happened in game) ||he castled ||
dusky hull
its funny because you're making two direct threats (the simple Qxa1 and also Qf2+ Kd1 Qf1#, so how do you defend the rook and also make the f2 square not a vulnerability? ||castling, of course... but then big fucking lmao with the indirect third threat||
yea Qf6 good find
tardy finch
There are three solutions that all lead to mate in one but I think that the one in game is the one with absolute class
woeful wolf
There are three solutions that all lead to mate in one but I think that the one ...
At least yeah
tardy finch
Shit, you're right, I saw two more
woeful wolf
Meanwhile my knight is thinking about that juicy fork
tardy finch
Don't know if you've seen the daily puzzle on chess.com but it's an interesting one. Pretty sure @woeful wolf will love it
woeful wolf
Just a normal game for me
dusky hull
you guys gotta stop horsing around
void bramble
dusky hull
sorry you've got covid, bud
i hope you feel better
the dreams about chess won't go away, though. at least they never did for me
cyan elm
I mostly dream about Pert personally
void bramble
Is he forking someone in the dream
cyan elm
me
void bramble
dusky hull
dusky hull
today's daily lichess puzzle is quite nice https://lichess.org/training/juAgF
woeful wolf
I like that one
I had a really nice game where I was able to absolutely clean up after a bad move by my opponent
It was really not going well for me
woeful wolf
a bit of a nice move here I missed that should result in white winning some material. Theres a few really good moves but one in particular that is really winning
|| I unfort missed it and went for a nice fork on c7 (I have a problem) but he resigned so a wins a win ||
dusky hull
you silly goober, you put the answer to the solution in the spoiler tag
but yes the ||fork|| is not bad by any means. just that theres a move that appears to make black insta resign.
dusky hull
indeed, ||light squares are weak, would be mate if black didnt have the queen block||
woeful wolf
😓
Good edit
I saw it right after i did the other move and was like oh poo but he resigned there
its like
||+17| when i checked after||
woeful wolf
He had a bad opening for sure
the london is doing ok for me
people dont really know how to punish it
woeful wolf
and the silican despite me having a novices grasp is doing ok
since they usually get confused when the scholors mate doesnt work
dusky hull
the london has the distinct wait-and-see style of commitment to both pawn structure and piece development. black's best possible response is to literally just also continue to develop pieces while maintaining a solid pawn structure
so punishing the london doesn't really happen unless white starts to make mistakes
but with that said, white lacks the early game aggression necessary to accumulate an incremental advantage, which is why it is not played too often at the highest level
void bramble
Is the right notation || bg7 ||
woeful wolf
It usually goes from instant moves to 5 min of thinking at this point. Hardest puzzle for a sub 1k player who is playing white pieces apparently
void bramble
|| bxg7 || ?
dusky hull
yup. a stickler would say capitalize the first letter to definitively say that it is a piece and not a pawn, but for casually talking to people, that is totally fine
void bramble
ty
woeful wolf
||7?||
void bramble
oops yes || 6||
woeful wolf
dusky hull
i like to try to throw white off by playing a move he's not at all prepared for. d5 and Nf6 are the obvious go-to, but ive had some fun with b5 here. saccing the b pawn so i can get d5 in
im not saying its a great move, but its fun
void bramble
Notation annoys me a little but I can't put my finger on why
woeful wolf
usually they try to move the knight in to make up for the bishop and fixate on that pawn the whole game
woeful wolf
https://www.chess.com/game/live/69633456419
Did you watch this game pert?
I just waited for a mistake and punished
dusky hull
kinda wanna make a chess.com premium account since they keep trying to give me 1-month free trials, and then do a speedrun to a 2500 puzzle rating
not yet
ill do it after my call
dusky hull
https://www.chess.com/game/live/69633456419
yea i think taking on b2 was a bit premature because after Qxb2+ and Kd2, white has Bc3 encouraging a trade of dsb's, and then the white king is relatively safe
but otherwise good use of your strong diagonal
dusky hull
anyone want to play
void bramble
No I want to see the 2500 puzzle rating
dusky hull
thatll take me at least a week or so to grind out if i go for it
wow chess.com has a 3 puzzle limit without premium
kek
guess ill make a new lichess account :)
new acc made
i forgot that lichess starts you at 1500
yea like one puzzle in and im 1724. interesting.
yea so the calibration aspect is definitely in my favor here. 3 fairly simple puzzles and im at 1882. maybe i hold off for a bit and record this :)
dusky hull
we stan pawn mates
tardy finch
anyone want to play
Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii am apparently late
we play tomorrow, winner takes all pawns
dusky hull
so no he- chess?
dusky hull
oh boy, 4 knights
woeful wolf
better chose which ones of your enemies pieces you take carefully
kill a pawn and you unleash the bishop or rook
dusky hull
i mean by the rules of the game, if i cant move pawns then i cant capture with them, so easiest win is probably going for a smothered
tardy finch
That is a fairly interesting challenge. No pawn can move unless the only legal move.
dusky hull
Suggest it to chess simp, not me lol
delicate peak
What is this lol
woeful wolf
Chatgpt just allowed to play what it wants vs stockfish
and loses
I found it in a reddit thread
tardy finch
Spat out my drink at ChatGPT castling, that's next level blundering
dusky hull
if i do a very quick impromptu stream of me doing some puzzles to show how i think about positions, would that be something of interest to you guys
and if the answer is "yes but i cant watch right now" would you watch a vod
cyan elm
Yeah I’d watch a vod but can’t watch stream rn
dusky hull
what would be the attention span you think you could do in one sitting
like 15 minutes of watching puzzles? 30? less than 15?
void bramble
I'll watch now and no idea
dusky hull
ill throw it up for a little bit. lemme finagle with twitch so i can get the vod to show up because i think i have it set to no vods because of dmca music
alright i think i got things figured out
gonna start stream in like 3 mins
we'll do a few puzzles, ill explain what im thinking about the pieces, etc etc
wont do it for too long, just testing this out
void bramble
Link
dusky hull
ended on 2230 from 1882
not bad, 2500 grind is pretty easy on lichess because of the starting position of 1500 as opposed to chess.com starting you at 400
in any event ill make the vod public for anyone who wants to see it. pretty short 35 minute stream
dusky hull
going back to check a vod always makes me remember how much i hate my own voice 
void bramble
It's because recordings of your voice aren't vibrating your bones
dusky hull
i-
im not sure i ever correlated the vibrations as being an essential part of speaking
woeful wolf
and if the answer is "yes but i cant watch right now" would you watch a vod
Yes
Can you have special guest azor in there
and maybe a surprise appearence by Asiano
dusky hull
lol its too late i already did it
dusky hull
Okay, you two play but you cant move pawns
when a NM loses to a 250 bot, by following your rules, i think im good on that
tardy finch
and maybe a surprise appearence by Asiano
At the time of the stream I was making my liver fight for its life like any normal citizen on a Friday night
woeful wolf
dusky hull
Well the vod exists for like 30 days or something so go watch it if you want and tell me if you’d like more of that kind of thing
Or don’t watch it and tell me you definitely don’t want more of that kind of thing
Either way
woeful wolf
when a NM loses to a 250 bot, by following your rules, i think im good on that
dunno what a nm is but guy should get good and stop throwing for content
dusky hull
Out of curiosity, how would you have handled h3
H3 has a really funny point to it because if gxh3 then Nf3 is mate because the other pawn is pinned by the rook
woeful wolf
Out of curiosity, how would you have handled h3
at what point in the game?
dusky hull
many times but the first time is move 32
tardy finch
Imagine imposing yourself a handicap this big AND SOMEHOW THERE 5 GREAT MOVES IN THAT GAME
tardy finch
Aight who wants to play
Pert is initially excluded as he wouldn't play, he would be on soul collection duty
tardy finch
I'll take it that no one is interested in a game, therefore...
Oh, mighty one, heed my call
Known and feared by all
One who shall not let the opposing king be
Hereby I summon thee
@dusky hull
tardy finch
Was bedeutet "friends"?
dusky hull
what the hell is a bedeutet
tardy finch
English is too meta, you don't get a real translation
Also, stream or it didn't happen
woeful wolf
ohno
dusky hull
return of ow Pert
no no
never that
playing ow reminds me how infrequently people think introspectively and its honestly so painful
today's lichess daily puzzle is actually a combination of two different ideas from puzzles i did on stream yesterday. give it a shot :) https://lichess.org/training/Hzbl6
woeful wolf
today's lichess daily puzzle is actually a combination of two different ideas fr...
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
on a serious note
nice puzzle
tardy finch
Have a wonderful Sunday, this one will take a while:
https://www.funnyhowtheknightmoves.com/
According to what I've read, the minimum number of moves you have to make to finish the challenge is 158. Don't let this discourage you, get the best time on the server.
woeful wolf
Ill ask chatgpt
woeful wolf
sheesh
playing 30m
guy just stalled for 22 min
didnt help but
bad sport
in before he was thinking
yeah about how he wanted to lose his queen
tardy finch
Today I accidentally did something similar to an opponent. My sister came to visit and I got distracted for a while, came back to 1 minute left on the clock. Flagged my opponent with 0.7s to spare, felt bad for him.
woeful wolf
Also live footage of pert opening overwatch
So many people that move like computers
tardy finch
Foolish meatbag, he was extending you the hand of mercy
That was Kasparov himself smurfing
woeful wolf
The rook
ect ect
only worked because enemy greedy as mate was pretty obviously inc if they stopped to think but most people at this elo (myself inc) rarely think
but i enjoyed
dusky hull
your ability to go down 1-2 pieces and then create a winning attack is actually insane
woeful wolf
If only I wasn’t constantly down 1-2 pieces because of bad early play
dusky hull
i mean yea but isnt that cool? like you've got the right ideas, you just don't have the execution in the beginning. that's a lot easier to remedy than trying to teach someone how to attack
im not saying its impossible to learn how to attack if you don't have the instincts, but man it helps for sure. the desire to catapult your pieces into their pawn walls and break down the defense will help you in your games because you'll naturally be looking for the opportunities to do just that. plus you'll probably do it incorrectly a bunch of times which will give you the necessary intuition to know when it will work more often.
whereas new players who just learn lines from a chess youtuber get absolutely massacred because their opponent either intentionally or even unintentionally messes up the moves or move order.
woeful wolf
Explain the Vienna to me like I’m 5
void bramble
Explain the Vienna to me like I’m 5
It's the capital of Austria, which means it's a very important city in a country
woeful wolf
Like I’m sure this isn’t right
https://www.chess.com/game/live/70119910691 @void bramble
void bramble
https://www.chess.com/game/live/70119910691 <@510249216556400641>
If this relies on me knowing any named plays at all, it will fail
I only know Vienna as a capital
woeful wolf
delicate peak
hm?
woeful wolf
I’m looking for someone better than me that can explain the Vienna
Obviously I know the opening line but I’m not sure where to go from there
If that’s not you I apologize
delicate peak
Defo ain't me
dusky hull
Explain the Vienna to me like I’m 5
flexible e4 opening that allows you to transpose into a bunch of different lines or play aggressively with a delayed kings gambit, known as the vienna gambit.
it is less aggressive than the usual e4 e5 nf3, but it is also less punishing on average. unless going into a gambit, white will usually enjoy an equal game with no real disadvantages, but also will not have posed any great threat to black as well.
the knight blocking the c pawn is slightly annoying for white in the future, but ultimately not a weakness.
if you try the vienna, you should probably also know a few other common lines like the 4 knights defense transposition or the stanley variation of the vienna.
cant say i have too much experience in it but thats because 1) im not really an e4 player and 2) i have no interest in learning passive openings from the white side
void bramble
@dusky hull do you know any 5 year olds
dusky hull
when storm says "explain it like im 5" i give him surface level knowledge, but im not gonna start speaking to him like hes actually 5
children are pretty terrible so the middle ground here is me speaking to him like an adult with little knowledge on a subject
woeful wolf
if you try the vienna, you should probably also know a few other common lines li...
I did
It was ok I guess
I’m almost back to 1k
void bramble
when storm says "explain it like im 5" i give him surface level knowledge, but i...
I'm just saying, that wasn't the assignment 🙃
dusky hull
Oh well
woeful wolf
pert did good
tardy finch
<@171682145646018560> do you know any 5 year olds
i don't think you are familiar with Pert's passionate hate for these so called "children".
And just to add my 2 cents on the Vienna since I'm usually the one playing e4 - try looking into some lines and see if you like what you see on board(Lichess is your friend here). If the obtained positions look good to you, feel free to play it. At the top level where none of us here are, the Vienna leads to a drawn position hence why it isn't usually favored as GMs love maintaining the little advantage that white has by default. We noobs don't which is why we play bullshit like the bongcloud.
The best part about the Vienna is that it can lead to a ton of different lines and positions but you don't need to study each and every one of them. Just look at a few and if you like them, play it. Best advice I can give you is try and get a feeling for what can go wrong. Use analysis if needed. Play a game or two then look at them and see if there was any move that the enemy made(or could have made) and caused you trouble. Develop a counter, mark it down and keep going.
That way you will learn how to be flexible in your opening naturally instead of remembering a ton of lines and being completely lost if you forget a move. If you decide to go on Lichess, make sure to check out what the #1 most played moves are and prepare yourself for those.
void bramble
i don't think you are familiar with Pert's passionate hate for these so called "...
Know your enemy
woeful wolf
I’m pretty sure pert be throwing kids in the trash
Especially overwatch installed pert
tardy finch
It's just move 4 and I can't fathom how this guy spent more time thinking about playing Ng3 than a4
But then again, 1k storm 
woeful wolf
It's just move 4 and I can't fathom how this guy spent more time thinking about ...
I can never tell if I’m gonna get ass blasted by the counter silican cum Kasparov dragon gambit or if they are as clueless as me
So that makes me nervous
tardy finch
If someone at this level tries to make a 20 move opening they copied from a GM, just shove everything in their face. Pawns, knights, ballsack, everything. They'll mess up 100%
woeful wolf
I do like “they do x you do y they do x videos “
I’m like
No they don’t not at this elo
Move 4 they hang queen and try to scholars mate me regardless of what I do
cyan elm
No they don’t not at this elo
yeah honestly one of the best things at lower elo is just identifying good moves every turn and not stressing about theory
cuz ur gonna be out of theory move 3 lol
woeful wolf
Unless the theory is scholars mate
This man I’m playing is aggressively trying to scholars mate
And it’s not working
0<1k loves scholars mate
woeful wolf
tardy finch
To practice more scholar's mate lines just play Nelson
woeful wolf
dusky hull
Know your enemy
sun tsu out on these infant demons
dusky hull
https://www.chess.com/game/live/70202736595
good mate. not common at all
void bramble
sun tsu out on these infant demons
dusky hull
the 5 essential elements of war are weather, terrain, command, moral influence, and doctrine. And I will use each and every one of these elements in my struggle against the toddler usurpers.
woeful wolf
Tilted 50 elo points away
Time to go back to 700
Whew
Speed elo destruction
dusky hull
cant really go in with that mind set i dont think
void bramble
the 5 essential elements of war are weather, terrain, command, moral influence, ...
Good luck with moral influence with a toddler; they're sociopaths
delicate peak
catch this quick chessers
its basically just a drunk magnus
backseating aryan tari's chess
making him seem like a total amateur
and its both educational and hilarious
dusky hull
very royal fork
woeful wolf
Forking every single active piece they have at once
dusky hull
https://www.twitch.tv/chessbrah
"this pleb is asking me about something"
magnus: why are you answering plebs
"good point, kappa (dude's twitch username) you're banned"
magnus: can you ban the guy who keeps talking about the Cavs
"of course"
woeful wolf
woeful wolf
Man got some fork
tardy finch
Wtf where are the forks
dusky hull
we do love ourselves king and pawn endgames
tardy finch
Well... King and pawn endgames are the peak of future planning imo. This one isn't quite that though, the position is incredibly favouring white, the only pitfall is not spotting where to attack.
woeful wolf
@dusky hull how do I make everyone that plays the Scandinavian quit chess.com counter that trash Scandinavian opening
dusky hull
prevent e5 at all costs
make it your pieces' lives goal to never let black get e5 in and you should always be better
woeful wolf
dusky hull
Even better, don’t get tilted :p
Easier said than done
The way I avoid getting tilted in chess is when I lose I just remind myself that I’m a big fucking idiot and all the previous wins were flukes and that losing is the rule to which the wins were exceptions, so it helps rationalize the losses to feel natural. Blundered a king and rook endgame? No problem. As a big fucking idiot, I should expect to blunder there. Etc etc.
dusky hull
It’s a good mental strategy to keep your ego in check and also minimize tilt and also self depreciate beyond a normal amount (the last one might not be a positive idk)
dusky hull
now you get it
tardy finch
<@171682145646018560> how do I ~~make everyone that plays the Scandinavian quit ...
Just copy what Pert does to me.
void bramble
You're all idiots 
void bramble
Time to have a competition to see who can be the dumbest
Winner gets happiness because ignorance is bliss
dusky hull
You're all idiots <a:noted:968698943070404638>
you get it
dusky hull
Just copy what Pert does to me.
like i said, deny e5
make e5 impossible and the scandi suffers
tardy finch
fak u 
dusky hull
I JUST TOLD YOU HOW TO BEAT THE SCANDI AND THIS IS HOW YOU REPAY ME
woeful wolf
Yes
tardy finch
Technically I don't even play e5 that often in the Scandinavian meaning there are additional ways to make a Scandinavian player suffer.
tardy finch
I wanted to show how a position would look without e5 but of course the one opponent I got in this short span of time straight up gave me e5. Plan here would be long castle, e5 and just dominate the center. White is more or less forced to play Nf3 and suddenly black is in the driver's seat because white didn't respond properly.
What white could've done to keep his initial advantage is play Nc3 to kick my queen away with tempo and then play d4 denying me any creativity in the center. This also happens to be the main line of the Scandinavian and stands at +0.8 according to analysis. Forcing black into this position means the scandi player has to immediately start developing pieces or just lose the position which makes them predictable and can allow you to orchestrate the pieces on both sides in the desired way.
Final note, look into Qf3. Many times it's a super simple and efficient way to make the scandi player mad.
woeful wolf
Most sane chess.con player
Looks like a draw to me
Proceeded to spam crying emoji (why are these a thing?)
How do I counter the “it’s a draw” spammers @dusky hull
woeful wolf
Agree
delicate peak
you can block draw requests tbh
woeful wolf
Yeh, just annoying that it’s so common for people to spam them when they are in a clear losing position
I didn’t notice he was spamming for a sec
tardy finch
In the first picture you can see half the text for "Don't show draw offers" or something
Which then usually means that blessed human being will spend all of its remaining time spamming chat or hoping you get bored to the point of leaving first. Which is why I play 5 minute games
tardy finch
we do love ourselves king and pawn endgames
Here's a fun one - white is completely winning here. Question is - how? One wrong move can immediately turn the game into a draw. One very specific move even loses on the spot.
woeful wolf
|| i would think it’s moving g4? Black has to capture before it gets away from them and that lets white rush the left side of the board with their king ?||
tardy finch
Elaborate a little further, your idea if executed properly works but can otherwise lead to a draw.
woeful wolf
@dusky hull lichess doesn’t work well on mobile for me
But these 10 min games are nicer
The opponents are moving faster and dumber than me early game
delicate peak
Lichess user IQ is like 6 points lower on average.
tardy finch
Well, cats are dumb as fuck but we love them
tardy finch
Mate in 8 on board. Spot it, feel good then brag to everyone that you can see so many moves into the future.
woeful wolf
Lichess user IQ is like 6 points lower on average.
So if I play 10 min vs lichess players that sounds like free elo
dusky hull
<@171682145646018560> lichess doesn’t work well on mobile for me
Get the app
I don’t use my browser to play on lichess
On my phone anyway
woeful wolf
I am a browser enjoyer
dusky hull
stole this puzzle from the chess discord that azor introduced me to
white to move and win. be careful with your variations here as black has a few ways to wriggle away if you're not precise.
tardy finch
I knock the pieces over
I suspect the correct line starts with ||a sacrifice and then is more or less equal|| but as a human during the game, I would just play c4 to plug the diagonal and lose.
Oh, fuck, I was terribly wrong, it's a series of brilliant moves
void bramble
I am not brilliant, so I would attempt || g5 then I assume they'd capture it so then be5 and then qh6 ||
tardy finch
I am not brilliant, so I would attempt || g5 then I assume they'd capture it so ...
||I play f6 after your bishop check and now you have two hanging pieces||
woeful wolf
||Does it start with queen to G6?||
||if so I think black takes and you can check with bishop to E5 and force blacks king into your pawns/knight for a quick mate||
||Thats what i have so far, blacks king is stuck on G5 and cant go back. I guess they can check and make you move king but it would be hard to stop a mate here based off of this?||
||Thats where im at I think its just a loss for black there I Dont see what move they can play that stops one of the pawns from mating||
I dont think I would have the balls to play that regardless
tardy finch
I dont think I would have the balls to play that regardless
||there is literally mate in one on board mate
Mate in two only if black spends a move to delay the inevitable||
woeful wolf
||there is literally mate in one on board mate
Mate in two only if black spends...
ye ofc i just dont know if i am missing something
Thats the best solution i got
I dont know if i am missing some poggers black pieces move here
but I dont think I am
tardy finch
You actually aren't missing a thing. Stockfish rates those three moves you made as white to be all outstanding/brilliant
dusky hull
||Thats where im at I think its just a loss for black there I Dont see what move...
This is correct if black puts up the most resilient defense
There are two other side lines you need to figure out. What if after ||Qxf6+|| black goes to ||Kf8 or Kg8||
One of them is fairly self explanatory but the other one is a teensy bit tricky
All the same, good job on spotting ||Bg7||. I loved this move when I found it.
void bramble
||Thats what i have so far, blacks king is stuck on G5 and cant go back. I guess...
Did I inspire the colours or was your brain already like this
woeful wolf
I just figured it would be easier to distinguish
void bramble
ay, brain already like this
dusky hull
for those who want all the answers:
||1. Qxf6+
if black plays ...Kxf6 then 2. Be5+ Kg5 3. Bg7, and now mate is unavoidable. black can check but after the white king goes to a dark square, f pawn mate is coming
if black plays ...Kg8 then 2. Be5 sets up an unstoppable mate
if black plays ...Kf8 then what you have to find is Rxe7. black cant capture back because then Qh8#. mate is coming soon from Qxf7 or Be5 now that the knight is dead. note that 2. Be5 will not work here because black has a resilient Nxd5, freeing up the e7 square, and even with precise play, black's king will get to run over to the queenside||
dusky hull
||Thats where im at I think its just a loss for black there I Dont see what move...
||under a technicality, Nf5 does prevent h4#, so f4# is technically better, but you understood the crux of the position which is Bg7||
@tardy finch i have a new reply to e4
working with my coach so i can understand it a bit better, but its pretty fun and the sidelines are wonky
tardy finch
This man destroys me every time we play yet develops more ways to go after my sanity
dusky hull
I need to increase my repertoire
Only know the carokann and some sicilian isn’t going to be enough against better players
tardy finch
Pert preparing for his NM title 
dusky hull
lol no i am leaps and bounds away from that
tardy finch
Pert straight up going for IM 
woeful wolf
Smol brain big forkin or ice discovered check but either way bye bye queen
but they chose to get forked, but I dont think theres a position where they dont lose queen there
tardy finch
take out bat
knock opponent unconscious
win on time
Can't lose a queen if you can't make the move
tardy finch
If it wasn't, Stockfish would have been presented as a dish 
woeful wolf
Stockfish-a-fila
dusky hull
>take out bat
>knock opponent unconscious
>win on time
Can't lose a queen if yo...
i suppose i should be more wary next time you and i play
tardy finch
Shut up, destroyer of dreams 
dusky hull
ay man i told you in advance that you didnt have to take on h6
i just mightve left out that it still left other problems for you to solve
dusky hull
if you really feel that way lets play a game and see what being down massive material does for you
i wouldnt allow yourself to start thinking like that
tardy finch
Did you play yet or I get to watch before I go to bed
tardy finch
Everyone needs a little perting from time to time
delicate peak
dusky hull
Everyone needs a little perting from time to time
especially me
i get perted hard by people better than me and it makes me wonder if im even playing the same game as them
tardy finch
Well, unless you had to throw a dice before each move, yes, it probably was the same game
*die
dusky hull
dirle
woeful wolf
woeful wolf
@tardy finch @dusky hull opinions on the grob?
woeful wolf
So basically my openings normally
woeful wolf
But true enough
Worked real good when my opponent had his monitor off
I mean objectively I could of played whatever I wanted and won
In that game
tardy finch
White has missed the chance to repair the only weakness in an otherwise equal position.
PUNISH HIM
Extra task for Mr. Pert - find a move that would have kept it equal.
dusky hull
just gonna answer both at the same time because theyre related
||queen is trapped, Nh5 wins|| part 2: ||...again queen is trapped and Nh5 is threatening to win, so make space with either h3 or f3. i truly dont know which one is better but i would imagine h3 from a human perspective although the engine might tell me otherwise if i checked||