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answer + explanation: ||You have to realize that the only black piece/pawn that can move is the knight. You see that you're close to delivering mate on b1 if your bishop can safely land on a2. So first move, Bd5. This allows your bishop to still eye the a2 square while preventing the knight from blocking. If the knight is allowed to block the bishop, it will lead to a draw. Best for black is Ne4. Bxe4 in reply. The reason this isnt stalemate is because the bishop left the diagonal it was on and is no longer looking at a2, so the black king can now move to a2. Bd5+, Kb1. Bxh1, wasting a move so the king goes back to a2, but more importantly setting up for something. Ka2 as mentioned, only move. Bd5+ yet again, Kb1 again, and now play Ka3, protecting the a2 square to deliver mate on next move. You might think wait isn't this stalemate? but this time even though there's no knight, its not stalemate since the h pawn is forced to promote due to the rook not being there and it being black's move. h1 promoting to literally anything, and then Ba2#||
the explanation makes it seem far more complicated than it really is due to the length
also fuck wog

I only play green/black when I played anyhow
(During mercadian masques is when I quit)
@cyan elm this guy does a series on the london and is quite good at his explanatory process. this video is his climb through 1900, but his london series starts as low as like 500 or something and he takes it through around 2300. quite instructional and since you like the london system, this might be pertinent to you
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when you're trying to improve--especially at one opening in particular--it can be good to watch stuff like this because not all of your opponents will play the same way. you can see how he sort of dissects the various positions with moves that just kinda make sense.
I checked the games. Itsy scares me.
I figure I haven't played a lot of people here in a long time. Is anyone willing to play a game? Not Itsy, sorry bro, you legit terrify me.
Saw this cool one on reddit white to play and win
||Qxb6|| ?
||Ye and from there holy shit it’s crushing||
Is best for black just acknowledging that ||the pawn is lost|| and just play ||Ra8|| or something. Because every other reply I’m thinking of seems really bad
Like black can’t play ||Qxb6|| because ||backrank mate||, he can’t play ||Rxd7|| either because of a similar idea
Yay I got it right

How do you spoiler tag btw?
That is the engine move reply buts its still such an awful position for black
Brutal
Fuck my keyboard doesn't have that lol
On my OG keyboard it's on the left of Z but this one is temporary and doesn't even have a question mark button, gotta press Alt+W for it
Oh that’s pain
@fierce oyster is there a way you can grant permission for me to pin things within just this thread, or threads in general? I won’t abuse it elsewhere
If not all g
Pretty sure if you highlight the message and right click it discord will let you mark as spoiler
||Test||
On mobile rn so can’t confirm but I can do something similar on phone
Woodsy clutch

Also ty for that video on the London
I’ve been messing around with Reti but keeping London in the repertoire for when I’m being lazy
Ye I’d check the other ones that are closer to your current skill level first before moving to the 2000+ climb but all the same you’ll see the major benefit of the London system is it almost doesn’t matter what black plays.
And good to hear. Does the reti make some amount of sense
Exactly gonna keep it in my back pocket for I wanna play chess but just chill games and then explore some options for when I feel like having some real chess
Yes I love it

The other benefit of the reti is that if you decide you want to play around with e4/c4 openings, a lot of what you’ll learn in the reti is applicable to those openings as well
So just by learning this, you’ll learn other stuff easier
Yeah it’s always kinda neat when you go to play something but then it transposes into something else that you also know
For me I have the cursed bullshit that the UK keyboard is and WINDOWS DOESN'T LET ME REMOVE IT
It literally doesn't even exist in the control panel but it still appears on switch
oh you have a nintendo switch? thats cool
I wish I still had my snes
sneeze on this dick
@dusky hull are you even watching chess bro
I’m not. I’m getting ready for my chess lesson at 2. My coach and I are straight up sparring today.
Pretty nervous
we’re doing as many games as we can within 1.5 hours
If you pick out a game or two that is standing out I’ll make sure I check it out afterwards
were playing a 15+10 
he played the trompowsky
i dont know the trompowsky
my position feels claustrophobic
i am SCARED.
@tardy finch he thought our scandinavian endgame was good. he gave me some pointers in regards to how to treat that specific situation of Q v B/R which really comes down to the general idea of attack the squares that the bishop cant protect, pressure one side of the board with the Q and one side of the board with the K and eventually the B/R side will get overloaded
but ultimately i still think it was a fluke
You know my memory doesn't serve me well so ...
Which scandinavian game exactly?
I like how analysis hates scandi so much it gives me an inaccuracy on move 1 
well i mean i told you from the get-go that white should always be better. its just very aggressive and if white doesnt play properly then black can capitalize
do you wanna see the game against my coach
Sure
Btw I have no memory of playing the scandi like this against you and I am just wondering what exactly was going on in my head from move 19 onwards
Even a bit earlier though this is the highlight
there were not one, not two, but three spots that queen sacs could have happened in this game had myself or my coach played slightly differently
with only 17 seconds on the clock, i couldnt find the very necessary h5 h4 idea because i saw:
29 ...h5, Kh1 h4, Ne4 forking my queen and rook and I just couldn't see what to do next.
but there's the fucking incredible Rxg2 giving up my queen for his knight, so Nxd6 Bxd6 threatening mate on h2 and white can block either with Qg4 or Rg3 and both incredibly lead to a drawn position
That game gives me the feeling of you being afraid to make moves
I swear, if you played me, that f5 would have been on the board at least 5 moves earlier
Just as an example for how ridiculous this game was, after 21. ...f5 I'm inviting
- f4 c5, fxg5 hxg5, Qh7 Bxd4+, Rxd4 Nf5, Nxf5 exf5, and finally the white queen is trapped so Qxf7 Qxf7, Bxf7 cxd4, Rd3 Rg7, and after all of that CHAOS I'd be up a pawn but it would be pretty impossible to defend in the long term so it would be equal
yea i told him i was kinda scared to compromise my position lol. f5 and Rg5 were two moves that kept coming to my mind but I couldn't effectively measure how detrimental or positive they'd be for me in the longterm so I abstained
Rg5 in particular was something I should have played because I could always come back if I really needed to, so yea I didn't play precisely. but overall, he played phenomenally and neutralized my threats such that the only play I had left to keep equality was a queen sac that I couldn't see
but I guess overall I can say I've improved and am at least keeping things lively for him
You'll beat his ass, I believe in you
haha idk about that. this was definitely our closest game but he still had 1:30 on the clock to my 17 seconds when I resigned
so like even if we somehow played a game where I kept things equal, he'd still be better on time management
Last day of the finals, who do we think is gonna take it
Whoever studied for them 
LOOOOOOOOOOO
Ehhh
Not hype?
Pain
Pls update me on chess things that happen from today - Thursday thank you ily
i got you
@dusky hull thoughts
Elon doing gods work
I finally watched this. Above my level to figure out but interesting when explained, ty for the video
Ye whether or not you got it is relatively unimportant. Just fun thinking about it for a bit and then seeing the idea in action during the solution
Glad you liked
Neat puzzle I saw
I tried it, thought it was taking too long then noticed the "neat" part. Neighly missed it, cool puzzle, Woodsy.
Isn’t it just ||pawn g7 then queen h7 or something very close?||
There’s a particular reason it’s neat, storm. You’re on the right track, but try to see how to continue after ||Qh7+||. Worst case, I’ll let asiano take the reins on this while I’m finishing up my conference.
anything I should care about? Just got home
still pretty fatigued but if there’re some good games to check I’ll do so tonight
Harder puzzle today
||g7+. If Kxg7, Qg6+-Kh8, Qh7#. If Kg8, gxf8+ to queen - Qxf8, Qh7#?||
in your variation here, ||Qxf8|| is not forced. Black can play ||Kxf8|| and the attack is over. Try to mess with the move order so that your attacks are coming with tempo.
Messing with the move order might give you the inspiration to explore new ideas that can nag at you
|| do you need to make a knight I keep seeing horse puns and I have to believe it's on purpose ||

the answer to this puzzle as it doesnt look like it was posted:
||g7+. Kxg7 results in mate in 2 from Qg6+ Kh8 Qh7#, so instead, Kg8. Qh7+ Kf7, and the star move, g8=N+ (the check is a discovery of the queen on h7). The f6 square is now covered by the Knight you promoted and e7 is covered by the queen's discovery, so Ke8 only move, and then Qe7# because the knight controls that square from where it promoted.||
For the record, ||you can promote to a queen and probably a rook and still be winning, but promoting to a knight is part of the mating sequence, winning the game on the spot. promotion to a queen or rook will break the sequence and require more work to win the game||
maybe itsy can teach us one day
anyone wanna play a game
i'd say yes almost any time but im in a pretty pissed off mood and i only just got back from a 4 day work conference, so hit me up tomorrow.
kk
||Qg7 Bh2+ Kxg2 and then can’t stop QB7# right?||
oh thats hilarious its ||Rh3 b3 Rh1 gxh1=Q Qxh1#||
yup!
hang on I'll mark as spoiler but ye thats hilarious
ya so cute
This felt really nice. I usually blunder bad vs this bot and have stumbled onto a win against the one above it once but first time beating this one

Stomping Nelson always feels good, no matter the blunders.

69 moves even 

oof this took me longer than I care to admit but quite nice
It's prettier
👀
do more
Or poop more, I guess
Never ending cycle... Of poop
Do neither. Quit chess. Dumb game. Hate myself.
Fun lil mate in 3
||pawn mates are top tier mates. ill make a tier list one of these days, but pawn mates are up there||
@dusky hull where do you stand on smothered mates?
lowest tier mates, for the record, are queen mates supported by another queen. like cmon bro have some class.
En passant mates stand above all though.
For those curious how that would work, here is an example.
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nah, en passant mates are just a special case of the pawn mate. cool, definitely a high tier mate, but wouldnt say the highest of all time
thats what someone with no en passant mates would say
you ain’t got no mates 
it isnt often, but sometimes i hit some absolute filth on someone out of the opening. i feel a little bad for this one ngl https://lichess.org/bDLQgx7H/black#1
Damn, poor dude got blasted
double knight sac by move 12 wasn't on my bingo card for today, but im glad it happened
That's some foward vision
its more just dont take your queen out too early in the opening lol
Yeah
But I wouldnt have spotted the mate with the double sac
I need to improve my tactics
ah gotcha. i had the idea there but white obv doesnt have to go for that
they could go into a situation where they are much worse instead of capturing the knight
or better yet dont push the pawn at all and just play f3 trapping the bishop
there's a general rule in chess that if your opponent is offering you material, its sometimes okay to take the first offering. but if your opponent offers you something else again, accepting the second offering is going to be quite bad
usually its pawns not pieces, but its still a decent rule to keep in your head

General rule is, if it looks like Pert is giving away a piece, it's a trap
General rule is, if it looks like Pert is giving away a piece, he’s overlooked something completely obvious
nice meme adaptation lol
grossss
similar in concept to woodsy's puzzle from a few days ago. very nice
took me longer to see it. the perspective shift of looking at the side of the board instead of the top/bottom of the board kinda fucks with my tactics sometimes, even if you think it shouldnt
its something i need to work on
|| yeah except its one of those puzzles where you sac everything. ||agadmator loves those lol
very cool puzzle
so true
||Bg5|| seems like an automatic. ||black dark squares are weak, unblocks rook, threatens Rd8 mate on next move||. i'd like to explore this more when im done watching my movie but im locking that in as my first move upon initial inspection.
am i dumb here
what is stopping ||Qd1+ -> Kxd1 -> Bg5+ -> Ke1 -> Rd1#||
isnt that mate?
how did that take 12 moves lol
or was that the whole game
Whole game
ahhh
||8 not 1 but ye thats it||
ya good catch
Ah, right idea wrong move order. Good job leonard
just had this position as white where my opponent played Bxh3 setting up a discovery from his queen.
Usually I'd say look for the best move in the position, but here I'll posit a different question: does black have an immediate threat that I need to respond to?
answer + reasoning: ||despite the impending discovery from the bishop moving, the knight looking somewhat scary on e5, and my kingside being compromised, there are no threats that I need to respect and can play the very calm Qxe5. Many times in chess, especially when under attack, you can start to see "ghosts" -- moves that you make out of fear because you see the opportunities your opponent has. It is really important to be concrete. It can be very easy to throw a winning game by playing scared. For example, a reasonable move at first glance is Bf3 adding another defender to the pawn. But black would still have Bxg2 Kxg2 and Qxf6 since now the bishop blocks the rook's defense to the knight, now taking the winning position and making it a draw. Seeing ghosts is a very real problem that we have to overcome as players so its important that when you're under attack you concretely think about what continuations your opponent has, if any.||
||so after Qxe5, black can still try Bxg2+ Kxg2 and Qg7+, but after that check we can either block with bishop Bg4 (since knight controls g4) or take the king on a lovely stroll to f2 and even e1 if necessary depending on what black plays, where the king will be very safe||
if bishop took g2, you wouldn't take back with king right?
I cant see why not though, cause knight covers Rg8+
and then you can move to e1
So uh Magnus popping off
that game against quang liem was good defending on his part but im not sure why LQL decided to go into an endgame when he sacced two pieces for the rook. historically unless your rooks are incredibly active, 2 pieces for a rook is winning in an endgame
all the same though magnus knows his ruy lopez quite well to hold off the pressure until an endgame comes on the board
Did you see his games against Giri
i only saw one
one game of the whole match
so theres a decent shot i missed something
i know that it ended 3-0 without needing to play game 4
but thats it
Giri didn’t look good but I wonder if that’s partly due to Magnus being able to make his opponent play uncomfortable positions
looking at the french game, giri actually had a really solid position once magnus committed the QS pawns.
hold on ill screenshot
magnus is black and giri is white here
magnus committed the QS pawns and giri closed the position. if you're looking at piece placement, magnus' pieces are all on the QS which makes it a lot harder for them to find value. Giri's next move was f5, but preparing it first with Nh4 is probably the way to go because if exf5 after Nh4, then Nxf5 attacking black's best piece and the weak g pawn
defending this position as black with g4 and h4 on the way i really dont know
seems quite hard
looks like he played a series of slightly inaccurate moves
and when you play at that level, 3-4 slightly inaccurate moves in a row is basically the equivalent of making one bigger mistake
props to magnus for converting it obviously
no easy feat to find the retaliation
yea so this is the thought process i had. stockfish is saying best move is fucking Rg8, keeping the king in the center and aligning your rook with white's king. i know for fact i wouldnt have seen this if i was black. any other move other than Rg8 is just bad for black
@dusky hull did you see Leela vs Stockfish btw
There was one like the other day
do you have a link
doesnt look like agadmator covered it and i searched leela vs stockfish (and lc0 vs stockfish) and got nothing relevant
i'd like to see it if possible
@cyan elm agadmator ended up covering the french game between magnus and giri lol. i very clearly did not see the engine line, but at least i saw that f5 was giving up advantage so that's the win im going with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-Bv1-GJ1E
Have a great day :)
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C11 French, Steinitz, Boleslavsky variation
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.f4 c5 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Be3 a6 8.Qd2 b5 9.a3 Qa5 10.Be2 b4 11.Nd1 Rb8 12.O-O c4 13.a4 Be7 14.Qe1 b3 15.c3 Nb6 16.f5 exf5 17.Qg3 g6 18.Bg5...
||qa7 nxa7 nb6+ ka7 nxd7 and white is up a rook maybe||
was i right
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whats with chess players having such a particular walk
the way they swing their arms
their gait
pragg has it
magnus has it
most of them have it
|| yeah but nxd7 is check so then you pick up the queen ||
||why is it a check, can't black play ka7 instead of kb8||
|| thats where their knight is ||
||very true||
I had a different idea for this puzzle and decided to involve Stockfish instead of Pert as the arbiter. Mine is just slightly worse according to the computer but easier to execute in my opinion:
||Nb6+, if Kb8 gg therefore Ka7, Nd7 discovered check, anything but Qd4 loses, queen trade, Nf6 to go after the pawn anyway.
Both positions have a passer and an awkwardly placed black knight, I just personally find it easier to play around it and the black king is nowhere near to support the defense. This approach is 0.1 worse.||
|| i like the line with queen taking because then it leaves you with a nxf5, and then you have a line of pawns to yourself. but you're right that's also a good one ||
White to move and mate in 2 @dusky hull
https://puu.sh/Js3uB/0a3c398efc.png
anyone else is free to try as well
(but it will probably just frustrate you)
Seems like ||Qf1|| is the way to go. Unless I’m wrong, there’s no move black can make stopping ||Qf4# or Qf6# dovetail mates|| depending on what black plays.
Open board mates are quite tricky but having the different mate ideas in your head can definitely be a good starting point for tactics or puzzle solving. My starting point was ||seeing the dovetail|| but I played and linked a game in here not too long ago where my starting point was the opera mate and the tactic kind of played itself in arriving there.
Good puzzle
ah i guess i shouldve been a little more concrete. ||Qf1|| is likely still the first move but i didn't take Qxe1 into account. Luckily white would still have ||Qxe1#||
||Qf5#|| because 📌 s
Yep
mates where the pieces are pinned are very fun
If you worked that out in 12 minutes then kudos, it took Magnus and Maurice like a minute or two
It is considered one of the hardest mate-in-2 puzzles
this sounds like a flame if you dont know how good magnus is lol
i dont think its that bad if you see the dovetail, but dovetail puzzles are one of my strongest tactical recognitions according to my puzzle profile
if you asked me to find the blackburn mate im probably not finding it nearly as quickly
(unless you told me it was a blackburn mate but that defeats the point)
and no i know you werent flaming haha. im happy to have gotten it at all. im in no way on the same level as magnus or even maurice
if you wanna see how good magnus really is at puzzles (granted, this video is limited to endgames only):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1SCXb2WA2U
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30 minutes of him just acing position after position after position
granted some of them are quite foundational, but definitely not all of them
in particular, exercise 17 (16:40 timestamp) is something that i just dont know how he saw in like 10 seconds. this would take me substantially longer.
just built diff
is it not just || Rxe4+, Kxe4, Qe2# || ?
||kxe4 is a discovered check so it doesn't work||
ahhh
I've been away from the board for a while but I got an interesting one just now. If black plays a passive move, it's mate in one.
Therefore, black to play and get an advantage worth more than the two pawns.
Hint:
||In the game I got to pick up the white queen though it wasn't forced||
||temporary queen sac to win the exchange?||
being specific
||Rc2+ Kh3 Qg4+ Rxg4 Bxg4 Kxg4 gxf6||
although im not seeing a difference between queen move and bishop move going first after the ||rook check|| so ||Qg4+ and Bxg4+|| are probably interchangeable
all the same, nice tactic
@tardy finch wanna play after my lesson? I think itll be 10pm for you which isnt exactly early but probably not bedge time either
I'm out of shape and you'll destroy me. But I'm not going to chicken out.
Just keep in mind I might still be in the way home at the time.
thats fine just lmk
||Listen not to Pert for he is a deceiver||
???????????
magnus winning meltwater 5 full points above So who came in 2nd is fucking wild
he just absolutely crushed a whole bunch of super gms like it was nothing
You regularly kick everyone's ass here so you are our mini-Magnus
You drew against me and beat me yesterday 
|| I know you're a deceiver though; can't trust you ||

He had his beads in
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I would but today is the first group match for the US in the World Cup
It’s starting in like 3 minutes
lol
u got a link 👀
im just watching it on peacock
you can just make some fubo/sling/youtubetv free trials and watch that way but i personally wouldnt do that until we get to bracket because they're only 1 week trials (unless you want to do it for every service and have 3 weeks total)
I'm just coming home, we playing or watching?
@grand idol he means you :p
im game
Join the challenge or watch the game here.
shit I actually have a meeting rn for 30 mins
I will @ u when I finish @tardy finch
oh, okay
thats good though
you improve by playing
you should play
i bet you asiano or leo would play you when theyre free today
I’m playing vs bots
And ye
I just have to run rn
Gotta get my snows on my car
Before I have to abandon it at work again
@tardy finch u there
Bit sleepy but I can play a game
sorry just finished
No worries mate
k one game
Join the challenge or watch the game here.
lol i forgot my bishop was gone
gg
I’m particularly happy with this
Just vs 1300 engine but still I was way behind and managed to salvage it
ayyy this is a solid daily puzzle from lichess
2098 at the time i did it
I dare say this would be harder with the black lsb off the board
what black dsb 
You were the only one to spot the mistake so maybe also the only one to understand my point...
actually crazy that this was a real game
if I pulled this off in a game
id be so hyped
It’s a nice combination
4-5 move tactics are great, especially with multiple piece sacs
That’s why I was as happy as I was before with my double knight sac mate
David
Like, Howell?
Like, the bot that you hated
thats a superb move btw, cutting off the defenses of the rooks from each other
yea that seems like an ivanchuk move
I believe it's an only move, wins material no matter what black does
I knew you meant this
Insane move
yea it looks pretty devastating for black to deal with
the next free day i have, i need to sit down and thoroughly study ivanchuk's games
he's the most modern tal that we have, at least until the indian players get a bit more experience
David is your nemesis @delicate peak
I heard you like geometry. Find the forced mate.
sucks that he still lost that game, its such a cool move
||in this house, we stan quiet moves||
Here's an easier one which is also a good knight exercise - mate in two on board.
|| still bad at notation, but knight to e4, king to e1, other knight to d3? ||
Almost there but not quite
Damn I literally screenshotted it and tried to do it by drawing on the screenshot cuz I'm so bad at remembering where things are after they move
|| is it because the king goes to c3 instead ||
its just your last move in the sequence is problematic because the knight can be captured on d3. similar idea, but choose the square where your knight cant be captured.
Oh || c2? ||
yeye
i like the colors
Thank you
I'm too used to the computer moving for the other colour; too hard for my brain to keep track of things
Neat puzzle
would anyone like to play a game or two
i want to get high first but im free for a bit
Get super high so I have a shot
bet
lmk when
Join the challenge or watch the game here.
this is definitely what i meant by getting high btw
if you saw the attack i was planning there, i really applaud you
nice game. wanna keep going?
so basically i played d5 to close your queen off from the light squares and keep it on my side of the board. the idea was to attack the light squares on your kingside with moves like Bh3 (since your pawn was pinned by my queen) and force you to play pawn moves that would cause permanent weaknesses
you playing f4 was solid because you got me off the light squares and gave your king a square to move if necessary
thats why i thought you saw what I was trying
No I am at the "attempt to control the center trade pieces and try not to be too much of a dumbass" level
you did great for that. honestly you only had one real blunder in the game despite whatever analysis stockfish might say. the move that basically took a relatively equal position to me having advantage was Qb3, keeping the attack on your bishop and introducing a new greater threat on your queen. from there, you were just trying to survive, and honestly you did make me work for it
and your opening 10 moves or so were great
And this level but it's a computer not a person
thats not bad at all
I have no idea how it relates
a 1700 level of tactical awareness is going to win you some pawns or pieces. basically you're probably at the point where hypothetically if your opponent makes a blunder, you're catching it. like if your opponent hangs a queen by allowing a royal fork with your knight or something to that effect
I don't have much practice with games, for awhile I only really played Azor
best way to improve is to lose a whole fuck ton to people better than you
i'd encourage you to just play random people on lichess
but again, you're following good principles
i had no idea what your strength was going to be so when you played for piece development and central control i was already thinking you were doing quite well
and even after you made a mistake you played moves that just kinda made sense to you even if you didnt see what i was trying
I don't really feel like playing random people so I don't
fair enough. whenever you feel like playing again though just ask :)
Thank you ❤️
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@tardy finch @4:23 timestamp
pretty sure i expressed this idea to you recently
so now you know its not just me making shit up
heres an IM telling you the same thing
Oh, ye
When I watched the video this phrase just dug a hole in my mind and now it's there to stay
center op needs a nerf
if you spend the whole game defending, you will eventually break
idk if you've already watched or if ur watching now but 100% worth watching till the end
Matters very little if I put more emphasis on fun than my endgames
although so far up to the 7 minute mark this doesnt seem anything out of the ordinary
i imagine itll heat up based on the title of the video
oh it heats up
i kinda wish the eval bar wasnt shown
or like maybe shown at the end
its giving me a lot of confirmation bias
because i can sit here and tell you 2 central connected pawns and king safety is definitely compensation for the piece, but it only really feels like that because the bar is agreeing with me
fair
aha yeah
but the difference is as the content creator HE CAN TURN IT OFF AND I CANT
whatever
anyway
ill finish this rq
ye that was a nice sequence
against Giri as well very nicely done by Duda
i got to play against not just asiano but asiano's dad today
that was quite interesting lol
we got rekt
i dedicate move 15 to you @grand idol
the botez gambit 😄
Pert learning of the Botez gambit is my favourite TSL chess lore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LnwRHGIHg
while I think wired couldve gotten someone a bit more knowledgeable on this particular topic, and the queen move at the end wasn't all that ridiculous, I think Levy was an okay choice and the video overall is helpful for the layman. This video might actually help you guys in your online games if you can spot the telltale signs.
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at worst, its always nice to see chess in the spotlight via popular mediums
Gotham chess grew on me
Initially I was a bit like ehhh this dude
But after he commentated with Danya I was like ok he's alright
i am currently lukewarm towards him. i find him certainly more engaging then some other chess content creators, but specifically in regards to cheating, i think there are people who would know better. this was likely just a really good chance for him to get even more exposure
which im not saying is bad. chase the bag, you know
I prefer him to be the guy than hikaru that people give viewership(?) To
Yesssss
Give me more Danya 
I remember waking up at like 7am once and getting hyped because he was still streaming and it put me in a good mood to make a bunch of cookies...
when you get in a good mood, you bake cookies. when i get in a good mood, i get baked. we are not the same.
i just played (and failed) one of the hardest puzzles ive ever played
i found the first two moves after about 10 minutes of thinking
the third move was just
ridiculous
i sincerely applaud any of you who even attempt this let alone get a few moves right
isnt that last move just fucking disgusting
like it makes sense after you see it but good lord finding that over the board is impossible
ok so I think its because
|| by getting tthe queen off the black diagonal, you can mate w the queen/bishop?||
i couldnt have seen that
I was trying to do some discovery w the bishop
I just kept trying different things until I figured it out
I do not think this counts
haha me too for the third move
what is your puzzle rating
2586 now
like a gambler, im gonna keep playing until i get it back
inb4 i drop to 2400
I am still trying to get back to 1700
puzzles really do be humbling
i dont mean to spam the chat with puzzles but this one is too excellent not to share
my advice for you guys is when calculating, don't write something off just because it seems dangerous. think about it all the way through.
I’m like 1600 (puzzles)
And I just feel I’m not very good at the game and not getting better
(Puzzles)
Your puzzle rating is going to be hyper inflated compared to your real ratings, by several hundred points. Puzzles give an inherent advantage as you are always aware of an opportunity on the board as that is the whole point of the puzzle. In real games, you could miss very simple tactics that you otherwise would catch in a puzzle because no one is telling you to stop and look for it the same as you’d do while training.
Puzzles are also likely the least important part of chess (despite them being probably the most fun part) as if you can’t play sensible moves to begin with, tactics will never be in your favor outside of complete obvious blunders from your opponent. Tactics on the board occur when your pieces are positioned on ideal squares and can pressure pieces that are worth more (like how a fianchetto’d bishop will automatically be eyeing an opponents rook). so that’s why foundational concepts like piece development, king safety, and pawn structure all aid in your ability to create tactics while dissuade your opponent from creating his own.
Don’t be upset with yourself if your puzzle ratings isn’t as high as you want it or you feel like you’re stuck. Focus on principles and tactics come as a result.
i cannot believe you didnt laugh @cyan elm im never posting another meme in here again
you've crushed my spirit and waned my soul
Someone's not high
excellent point
Sorry sir I did not see I’ve been degen gaming DF
oh right
Yea I feel you
Don’t have much time to play the games I want to play so I’ve been grinding puzzles to try to keep myself sharp
One day soon though I will finally go for a big rating push.
I’m prob like
600 actual rating

That’s beautiful
I do love the pawn mates
That means you get to have fun. If you were at Pert's level, you'd be facing the tryhards.

Having fun blundering
Well... Depends on what you consider a blunder.
Don't listen to Stockfish, it's a paid actor.
Hey, winning on time is legit. Feels bad at first (especially if you are the one losing) but it's part of the game.
I’ve done 3 games
Every single person has tried for scholars mate
This game was fun
@dusky hull
I’m so bad at actual chess I was never good but I think I can beat bots and barely that
But roast me fam

@tardy finch
For entertainment purposes
Nothing to really roast, sir. Enticing your opponent with a full piece was a very smart tactic as your bishop controlled the light squares and his king was the one under attack.
The only comment i have is black has a way to defend after you play Ne5 by playing Nd7, blocking the attack on the c7 pawn, so the continuation you needed to find instead of Ne5 was Qf8+ Kd7 (forced) and Bxg8 winning your piece back and being in a much stronger position, threatening to win the exchange with a check from your bishop unlocking a discovery on his rook. But like your opponent didn’t spot the only way to defend his c7 pawn, so you took full advantage of it. Nice job. Good piece sac.

I’m really happy with that one too
I messed up a bit and he missed a win I feel
I’ll check it in a few minutes. Glad you’re having fun though, that’s the most important part
our boy is clapping 
Clapping wood league cheeks

Ended up 932
Got some splinters
From the clap back I got
chess games are a series of who can make the least mistakes. if he threw, he made more (or more potent) mistakes and you capitalized.
so fuck it. if he threw, he threw. thats rating for you
@tardy finch ping me when you wake up, i might be up
idk if you wanna play in the morning but offer is there
man the amount of times i ask people if theyre up to play chess
hey @cyan elm
Hello I’m very hungover tried to my daily puzzle it was not good
Thank you sir
Happy Birthday Woodsy!
@cyan elm im high as shit and just did this for you. this is your brithday present
yes i know Bx was better, but Rx is so much cooler

@tardy finch I wanna get lunch but also let’s play today
The offer is extended to anyone else of course; I just know I can guilt asiano into one or two games
@dusky hull

this discord font looks awful
but anyway, look at this fuckin game. one tactic to put myself in a winning position, and another tactic to end the game. my puzzle streaking has definitely helped https://lichess.org/GSH3kYTo/white#1
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that
Here is one I liked
Not going to specify whether you can win material or force a mate - that is up to you to find.
Play the best move.
|| queen to f8, I can't tell if king takes queen or goes to h7 but if former, rook to c8 then d8 and if latter queen to g7?
It seems too easy so I assume I'm missing something but I have no idea what ||

|| if king takes queen, then its checkmate, cause king is on f8. they have to move queen to d8 to block but then you take and its mate. if they move to h7, then queen to g7 is mate ||
this one is so fun
i dont think its especially hard, but conceptually fun
Took more than one try but I got it pretty quickly

Good day, citizens of TSL Chess. Here is a fun little one. The first move might be intuitive but make sure to find the whole sequence.
I don't like doing this without it updating 🤣
Dunno if you can follow my brain but am I headed in the right direction @tardy finch
final move is || Nd7# || is that right
|| oh man was I only one move away ||

If you guys want a few bonus points, try doing that same puzzle but without the knight on b8 and see how that changes things
Still mate, but slightly different
And when I say without the knight I don’t mean without using it. I mean pretend it’s not on the board.
||Everything the same through Ke5 getting out of blacks Bf5+. But now with no N on b8, Rxf8 securing the back rank. If white just plays any move like Rhf1 attacking the queen, then Re8+ Be6 blocking, Rxe6#. And if white sees Re8+ leads to mate and tries to preemptively block it with Be6 instead of playing a silly move, then we move our bishop anywhere along the c2-g6 diagonal (except e4) to prevent any trade setting up Qe3 mate, and if white stops that by moving the rook over, then Qf6 is also mate ||
oh man
i just had a nice little mate in 3 combination that was kinda gross
a lot of moves are winning because of the material advantage, but spot the mate in 3
I can only find || rook to a3 pawn to e3. Did you want it in 3 moves total or 3 moves for black? ||
ya me too, that doesnt seem like it forces tho
Last move ||Ra1#||
Also to answer you, whenever you see “mate in x” the number refers to the amount of moves required to mate from the person who is in that mating position. So like “mate in 4” would mean it would take a player 4 moves to reach checkmate, NOT it would take each player 2 moves each.
doesnt king just take rook on d2 then?
ohhh the pawn
derp
I title this puzzle Run, Forrest, run!
||Nf1+ Kxh3, Bf5+ Kh4, Rg4+ Kh5, Ng3+ Kh6, Rh4#||
I think the answer is ||f8=N+, Kxf6, dxe8=N#||
Looks right to me :) nice puzzle, very festive
Now I'm afraid to do more 🤣
hey congrats
Keep going Rylira, you can go further!
a truly phenomenal attacking game from dubov if any of you are interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-6XZdsXLlI
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Have a great day :)
Giri, Anish (2708) - Dubov, Daniil (2712)
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D73 Neo-Gruenfeld, 5.Nf3
1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 g6 3.Bg2 Bg7 4.d4 Nf6 5.c4 c6 6.cxd5 cxd5 7.Nc3 O-O 8.Ne5 Ne4 9.Nxe4 dxe4 10.Bxe4 Nc6 11.Nxc6 bxc6 12.Be3 Bh3 13.f3 Rb8 14.b3 Rb4 15.Kf2 f5 16.Bxc6 f4 17.gxf4 e...
giri even did really well to try to hold, but this game illustrates why attackers have the advantage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cswfzgo1MM my man had 30 seconds vs 3 mins against a GM
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cracked
Yea it’s wild how much better he is than virtually everyone
Imagine spending your life becoming a gm and this dude makes you look like an 800
theres a video out there of him beating an IM in less than a minute as well
like man cmon
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1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Be2 e6 6.O-O dxe5 7.Nxe5 Bxe2 8.Qxe2 Bd6 9.Rd1 O-O 10.c4 Ne7 11.Nc3 Nf5 12.Nf3 c6 13.Ne4 Bc7 14.b4 Re8 15.a4 Nd7 16.Bb2 a6 17.a5 Qe7 18.g3 Rad8 19.Bc3 Nd6 20.Nxd6 Bxd6 21.Rab1 f6 22...
tarlo just benched me 
itsy in chess channel? 
so that you could play chess?
so i can enjoy them wiping from the peanut gallery for now im afraid
I'm waiting for a graduation ceremony
All dressed up and it's fucking hot in my city
Pics or thesis didn't happen
itsy and i played 3 games like 2 months ago or something
which is why i told you I think you and he could get some really good games in because you're roughly the same skill level
are you the one graduating?
grats to him
While the move order may be found by accident, I still love how forcing the idea is.
Took me a sec but very neat
I feel like finding defensive resources like this otb is what separates good and great players because you won’t always be winning your games
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funny lil puzzle rush endgame I played yesterday, as a hint, one kingmove wins, one loses and one draws
i actually watched this yesterday
the second game was disgusting
ive stared at this for like 5 minutes and i cant see how to convert but i think ||Kd5|| is the best king move.
Intuitively ||Ke5|| feels wrong because it allows ||Re7+ allowing the rook a free move to help get back to defend the a1 square||. I didn't look any deeper into that, but that one feels like the losing move.
And ||Ke6|| is proooobably the draw because while it prevents ||Re7+ and there's nothing stopping you from queening||, there's also nothing stopping white getting in ||c6|| so I'd imagine that black having a queen and white having a rook and 1 pawn 1 square from promotion, probably a draw. So yea, ||Kd5|| is like the only move left even if I don't really know how I'd go about winning
edit: I forgot to mention why ||Ke6|| draws but ||Kd5|| doesn't and that's because after the queen eventually picks up the b6 pawn and prevents promotion, white would have Rc6+ saccing the rook and deflecting the queen away from protecting the b8 square. If the king were on ||d5||, this fork doesn't exist.
what puzzle rating was that mr itsy
it occured in my game so there was no elo behind it, but my opponent didnt find it and I won with the queen
after playing ke6
ah okay, i thought you were just doing puzzles
yea thats tricky, i highly doubt i'd find the correct move over the board in a blitz game
but it does illustrate quite well that not all squares are equal when escaping checks
Ye. 3k elo bots are disgusting
don't be mean to the bots
Why they are mean to me
gz
Good now get to 2.5k like I know you can
Let me tell you, this man was not happy. Not a hard idea to spot but satisfying when you spot it in game. Find the next two moves that give white a material advantage:
answer: ||the black queen no longer has retreat squares due to the bishop blocking her in. c5 takes away the d6 square, and after black runs with Qd5, we have Bc4 completely trapping the queen||
Join the challenge or watch the game here.
I know the queen is trapped kind of, I want to move the bishop to b4 but then knight takes
so Im thinking pressure the knight?
but that doesnt work
you've identified the crux of the position
now think of all the ways you can attack the queen, and continue from there
right, which opens the square for ||your other bishop|| :)
ya exactly. I guess to see || bc4 || u gotta see the first one
right. in the game i also saw Bb4, but its not as forcing or as strong
also just to clarify, black actually can avoid losing the queen by giving up the knight for 2 pawns, which is why i said material advantage
but all the same it should be big winning for white
@grand idol my boss had me doing some stupid shit
im ready
if you still wanna play
or anyone
not just leonard
just ping me if tryna play
just buying dinner I will ping you uou when Im back
@dusky hull u still around
Great, now I'm under pressure
How will I tell who is whom if you're both anonymous
whos who
hes white
Usually the winning side is Pert so that can help
Imagine thinking I can tell who is winning
Confidence dude, confidence
I'm currently being forced into trading as if I don't I'm fucked
Can't really be confident right now
HANG YOUR QUEEN DAMN IT
As soon as I saw c5, my reaction was "I need to draw"
fuck
idk i felt like i couldve won if i found some moves but time pressure
my king moves were sus
But you are winning this
Up until Kf1 it was definitely drawn but then I just snapped
Although had you moved Nf4 afterwards, I'm not sure I can even stop mate
Next time no running out of time that's not a satisfying viewer experience
Beat each other 
You and leo because asiano needs to fucking sleep
ok
you can choose the time control
Join the challenge or watch the game here.
oh shit thats rated nvm
Imagine playing correspondence chess
Join the challenge or watch the game here.
3 days later you get a call - "We've been trying to contact you about your extended move time"
no lol
fucks it we ball
i shoiuld really learn openings huh
My man playing my trash openings 
Well, you play the aggressive variant while I just cave in and get slapped
I meant how you are playing the scandi right now. So far this is all theory actually.
couldnt u just take my pawn there
Yeah, I've seen it in a SLCC video. Can't remember which one exactly though a similar position is the main point of the Scandinavian tutorial
d3 would have trapped the bishop if Pert took early
@void bramble are you not entertained
throws arms up towards the applauding audience as men in armor kill each other on the board
Yes, but you trade for his lsb while your pawns are strong there. You just bully your way through afterwards.
get a burrito
Sorry I stopped watching did you finish

Oh it's still going I'll watch
noooooo
gg
ggs
Dood
I was so happy about you choosing violence and then this
@wicked trout get in here, someone has to stop Pert
im down to play more, im gonna order dinner anyway
need something to distract me from the stomach decimating itself
Yes that was much better thank you
of course, glad i could help
Time for Ryli to play

its been forever since skudde has played me
and i havent played pudge like ever i dont think
I'm watching tv and you get pissy if it's not timed
well i mean the game has to end right lol
Im down for one more
bet
Correspondence chess ends eventually
load er up
Join the challenge or watch the game here.
It's a good tradition as I have fallen asleep while playing
while u try to convince rylira to play
i mean yea i think lichess correspondence technically ends after 3 days of inactivity or something
alright my leo friendo
ive been practicing my english and i dont think ive played white all day
so here we go
english time
White wins by shooting down Black's messenger pigeon
great snake var
very good
this is no longer the english but thats ok
more of a kings indian
I've seen this only in the four pawn attack thanks to chessle. Good stuff.
i think thats somewhat known as the switchblade variation
does it have f4 in it
if so i think thats called the switchblade
English
switchblade
@cyan elm get your seaweed ass in here one day soon
i will admit im incredibly comfortable in positions like this. ive played a heck of a lot of kings indians from the white side and it sort of plays itself
its like the london but not cheesy and tedious
ok so
well fuck
in the spirit of rylira's bloodlust
we go for something that i really dont know if it works
but here we go anyway
yea wow
so i think the check actually made things worse for you believe it or not
i mean Qb6+
because you lost a defender of your knight
ah

lol ok so after g5 apparently h4 is just crushing
but i went for a different idea in the spirit of rylira's rage
ha yea so like
the eval after i play f4 is only like +1.2
but after you throw that check in
the eval swings massively
its all because your queen isnt covering that knight anymore
I like the alliteration of rylira's rage
weird to think that a check is worse for you in the position but thats chess for you
I wanted to take your knight with the check
but u put your bishop in the way
and i kind of tunneled
yea that happens
and i mean i think you can tell that danger is looming before you even play g5
because look at my piece locations
my rook, queen, and knight are all looking at your kingside. my bishop xrays it
you'd have to bring pieces towards your king to take squares away from my eventual attack
ill have to do the computer analysis on this at some point to see if theres more optimal play but i think you know that g5 is what did you in basically, and then the Qb6 move after that was the nail in the coffin

henlo
You've been summoned to the coliseum
Fight to the death
hes gonna say something like tarlo is making him dance for him
but on the off chance itsy is down to rumble
you should learn one opening for white and one for black. not some cheeky cheesy gambit where you can mate your opponent on move 6 or something. a real opening.
for one, itll help you develop an idea of where your pieces naturally develop and maybe will break some habits (you love to fianchetto lol)
for another, getting comfortable in an opening can help you get a good position to where your middle game wont be disadvantageous from the getgo
do you have any recommendations
Much as I hate to say it, the london system is a wonderful opening to learn as white because it almost doesnt matter how black responds, you usually do the same stuff anyway
and as black, well youve gotta learn an opening against e4 and d4 primarily, but you can play c6 against both of them
send a request i guess
c6 against e4 is the carokann and c6 against d4 can be the semislav (or transpose into the slav)
Grunfeld for black, Pert hates it.
Joke aside, French is cool, Berlin is pretty solid...
french is very very very theory heavy
Only if you play it right. I go by the rule if I have no idea what I'm doing, there's no way you can figure it out. Now fight
how far in do I have to learn
can I just know like
first 5 moves or something
asiano anger
theres no set number but like
id say learn the theory until the theory says you castle
kk
because at that point your king is safe, you have some pieces developed, you can make it to the middlegame relatively unscathed
my coach very early on told me to think about chess like a book and your pieces like characters. in any good book, a character is going to have progression. they begin in their starting positions, and they grow. in chess thats the equivalent of getting them onto good squares and then you move them only when necessary, hopefully to better squares. if you never develop your pieces, its like if a book never develops their characters. pretty shitty book, right?













