#♟️Chess

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dusky hull
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Nice little puzzle, probably geared for 1500ish players. See if you can figure it out. White to play and win (and for clarification, the black pawns are moving down the board).

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answer + explanation: ||You have to realize that the only black piece/pawn that can move is the knight. You see that you're close to delivering mate on b1 if your bishop can safely land on a2. So first move, Bd5. This allows your bishop to still eye the a2 square while preventing the knight from blocking. If the knight is allowed to block the bishop, it will lead to a draw. Best for black is Ne4. Bxe4 in reply. The reason this isnt stalemate is because the bishop left the diagonal it was on and is no longer looking at a2, so the black king can now move to a2. Bd5+, Kb1. Bxh1, wasting a move so the king goes back to a2, but more importantly setting up for something. Ka2 as mentioned, only move. Bd5+ yet again, Kb1 again, and now play Ka3, protecting the a2 square to deliver mate on next move. You might think wait isn't this stalemate? but this time even though there's no knight, its not stalemate since the h pawn is forced to promote due to the rook not being there and it being black's move. h1 promoting to literally anything, and then Ba2#||

woeful wolf
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I tap four white mana and play wrath of god

dusky hull
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the explanation makes it seem far more complicated than it really is due to the length

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also fuck wog

woeful wolf
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I only play green/black when I played anyhow

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(During mercadian masques is when I quit)

dusky hull
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@cyan elm this guy does a series on the london and is quite good at his explanatory process. this video is his climb through 1900, but his london series starts as low as like 500 or something and he takes it through around 2300. quite instructional and since you like the london system, this might be pertinent to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMI82LUYt2Q

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when you're trying to improve--especially at one opening in particular--it can be good to watch stuff like this because not all of your opponents will play the same way. you can see how he sort of dissects the various positions with moves that just kinda make sense.

tardy finch
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I checked the games. Itsy scares me.

tardy finch
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I figure I haven't played a lot of people here in a long time. Is anyone willing to play a game? Not Itsy, sorry bro, you legit terrify me.

dusky hull
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don’t be scared OH_BounceHappy

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Itsy and asiano when they finally play

cyan elm
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Saw this cool one on reddit white to play and win

dusky hull
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||Qxb6|| ?

cyan elm
dusky hull
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Is best for black just acknowledging that ||the pawn is lost|| and just play ||Ra8|| or something. Because every other reply I’m thinking of seems really bad

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Like black can’t play ||Qxb6|| because ||backrank mate||, he can’t play ||Rxd7|| either because of a similar idea

rigid perch
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Yay I got it right

dusky hull
rigid perch
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How do you spoiler tag btw?

dusky hull
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|| around your text

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You need two on each side

cyan elm
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Brutal

dusky hull
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Is it actually the engine move

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Let’s goooo

rigid perch
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Fuck my keyboard doesn't have that lol

dusky hull
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For me it’s hiding behind the :

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Try messing with that

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Or just copy paste ||

rigid perch
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On my OG keyboard it's on the left of Z but this one is temporary and doesn't even have a question mark button, gotta press Alt+W for it

dusky hull
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Oh that’s pain

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@fierce oyster is there a way you can grant permission for me to pin things within just this thread, or threads in general? I won’t abuse it elsewhere

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If not all g

cyan elm
rigid perch
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||Test||

cyan elm
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On mobile rn so can’t confirm but I can do something similar on phone

dusky hull
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Woodsy clutch

rigid perch
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There's an eye on the right hand side to tag the selected message

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Sweet

cyan elm
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Also ty for that video on the London

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I’ve been messing around with Reti but keeping London in the repertoire for when I’m being lazy

dusky hull
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Ye I’d check the other ones that are closer to your current skill level first before moving to the 2000+ climb but all the same you’ll see the major benefit of the London system is it almost doesn’t matter what black plays.

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And good to hear. Does the reti make some amount of sense

cyan elm
dusky hull
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The other benefit of the reti is that if you decide you want to play around with e4/c4 openings, a lot of what you’ll learn in the reti is applicable to those openings as well

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So just by learning this, you’ll learn other stuff easier

cyan elm
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Yeah it’s always kinda neat when you go to play something but then it transposes into something else that you also know

tardy finch
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It literally doesn't even exist in the control panel but it still appears on switch

dusky hull
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oh you have a nintendo switch? thats cool

tardy finch
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the fuck is that

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I only have a 20yo SNES

dusky hull
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I wish I still had my snes

delicate peak
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sneeze on this dick

dusky hull
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azor has begun his cozyposting arc

half hedge
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@dusky hull are you even watching chess bro

dusky hull
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I’m not. I’m getting ready for my chess lesson at 2. My coach and I are straight up sparring today.

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Pretty nervous feelswaytoosweaty we’re doing as many games as we can within 1.5 hours

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If you pick out a game or two that is standing out I’ll make sure I check it out afterwards

dusky hull
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were playing a 15+10 aPES2_Sweat
he played the trompowsky
i dont know the trompowsky
my position feels claustrophobic
i am SCARED.

dusky hull
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I lost on time samscream

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If anyone is interested I can post the game

dusky hull
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@tardy finch he thought our scandinavian endgame was good. he gave me some pointers in regards to how to treat that specific situation of Q v B/R which really comes down to the general idea of attack the squares that the bishop cant protect, pressure one side of the board with the Q and one side of the board with the K and eventually the B/R side will get overloaded

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but ultimately i still think it was a fluke

tardy finch
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You know my memory doesn't serve me well so ...
Which scandinavian game exactly?

dusky hull
tardy finch
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I like how analysis hates scandi so much it gives me an inaccuracy on move 1 kekdog

dusky hull
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well i mean i told you from the get-go that white should always be better. its just very aggressive and if white doesnt play properly then black can capitalize

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do you wanna see the game against my coach

tardy finch
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Sure

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Btw I have no memory of playing the scandi like this against you and I am just wondering what exactly was going on in my head from move 19 onwards

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Even a bit earlier though this is the highlight

dusky hull
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there were not one, not two, but three spots that queen sacs could have happened in this game had myself or my coach played slightly differently

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with only 17 seconds on the clock, i couldnt find the very necessary h5 h4 idea because i saw:

29 ...h5, Kh1 h4, Ne4 forking my queen and rook and I just couldn't see what to do next.

but there's the fucking incredible Rxg2 giving up my queen for his knight, so Nxd6 Bxd6 threatening mate on h2 and white can block either with Qg4 or Rg3 and both incredibly lead to a drawn position

tardy finch
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That game gives me the feeling of you being afraid to make moves

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I swear, if you played me, that f5 would have been on the board at least 5 moves earlier

dusky hull
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Just as an example for how ridiculous this game was, after 21. ...f5 I'm inviting

  1. f4 c5, fxg5 hxg5, Qh7 Bxd4+, Rxd4 Nf5, Nxf5 exf5, and finally the white queen is trapped so Qxf7 Qxf7, Bxf7 cxd4, Rd3 Rg7, and after all of that CHAOS I'd be up a pawn but it would be pretty impossible to defend in the long term so it would be equal
dusky hull
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Rg5 in particular was something I should have played because I could always come back if I really needed to, so yea I didn't play precisely. but overall, he played phenomenally and neutralized my threats such that the only play I had left to keep equality was a queen sac that I couldn't see

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but I guess overall I can say I've improved and am at least keeping things lively for him

tardy finch
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You'll beat his ass, I believe in you

dusky hull
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haha idk about that. this was definitely our closest game but he still had 1:30 on the clock to my 17 seconds when I resigned

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so like even if we somehow played a game where I kept things equal, he'd still be better on time management

half hedge
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Last day of the finals, who do we think is gonna take it

tardy finch
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Whoever studied for them onlypretending

delicate peak
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LOOOOOOOOOOO

dusky hull
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I just got to my hotel

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How were finals

half hedge
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Ehhh

dusky hull
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Not hype?

half hedge
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EHHH

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wasnt great

dusky hull
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Pain

dusky hull
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Pls update me on chess things that happen from today - Thursday thank you ily

delicate peak
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i got you

rigid perch
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I'm completely out of the loop

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Been watching this 7h video with GoW cinematics

cyan elm
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@dusky hull thoughts

dusky hull
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Elon doing gods work

void bramble
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I finally watched this. Above my level to figure out but interesting when explained, ty for the video

dusky hull
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Ye whether or not you got it is relatively unimportant. Just fun thinking about it for a bit and then seeing the idea in action during the solution

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Glad you liked

cyan elm
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Neat puzzle I saw

tardy finch
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I tried it, thought it was taking too long then noticed the "neat" part. Neighly missed it, cool puzzle, Woodsy.

woeful wolf
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Isn’t it just ||pawn g7 then queen h7 or something very close?||

dusky hull
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There’s a particular reason it’s neat, storm. You’re on the right track, but try to see how to continue after ||Qh7+||. Worst case, I’ll let asiano take the reins on this while I’m finishing up my conference.

dusky hull
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still pretty fatigued but if there’re some good games to check I’ll do so tonight

cyan elm
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Harder puzzle today

rigid perch
dusky hull
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Messing with the move order might give you the inspiration to explore new ideas that can nag at you

void bramble
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|| do you need to make a knight I keep seeing horse puns and I have to believe it's on purpose ||

dusky hull
dusky hull
# cyan elm Neat puzzle I saw

the answer to this puzzle as it doesnt look like it was posted:

||g7+. Kxg7 results in mate in 2 from Qg6+ Kh8 Qh7#, so instead, Kg8. Qh7+ Kf7, and the star move, g8=N+ (the check is a discovery of the queen on h7). The f6 square is now covered by the Knight you promoted and e7 is covered by the queen's discovery, so Ke8 only move, and then Qe7# because the knight controls that square from where it promoted.||

For the record, ||you can promote to a queen and probably a rook and still be winning, but promoting to a knight is part of the mating sequence, winning the game on the spot. promotion to a queen or rook will break the sequence and require more work to win the game||

rigid perch
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Too many movements for my smol brain

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I'd be a terrible blindfolded player

dusky hull
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maybe itsy can teach us one day

grand idol
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anyone wanna play a game

dusky hull
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i'd say yes almost any time but im in a pretty pissed off mood and i only just got back from a 4 day work conference, so hit me up tomorrow.

grand idol
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kk

grand idol
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white to mate in 3

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very cute one!

cyan elm
# grand idol

||Qg7 Bh2+ Kxg2 and then can’t stop QB7# right?||

grand idol
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|| can move bishop back to c7 ||

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@cyan elm

cyan elm
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oh good point

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I only see mate in 4 then

grand idol
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first move is || Rh3 ||

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second move is ||Rh1||

cyan elm
grand idol
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yup!

cyan elm
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hang on I'll mark as spoiler but ye thats hilarious

grand idol
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ya so cute

woeful wolf
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This felt really nice. I usually blunder bad vs this bot and have stumbled onto a win against the one above it once but first time beating this one

tardy finch
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Stomping Nelson always feels good, no matter the blunders.

woeful wolf
tardy finch
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69 moves even FeelsGoodEnoughMan

woeful wolf
dusky hull
# grand idol

oof this took me longer than I care to admit but quite nice

woeful wolf
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Is there a site I can do puzzles on without chess.com limits of x puzzles a day

dusky hull
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LICHESS

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LIIIIIIIIICHESS

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STOP USING CRUSTY DUSTY CHESSCOM

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PAYWALLS ON PAYWALLS

woeful wolf
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Sorry sir

void bramble
tardy finch
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What if I only do puzzles while pooping? Is chess.com that bad then?

delicate peak
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👀

dusky hull
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Or poop more, I guess

tardy finch
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Never ending cycle... Of poop

rigid perch
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Use both

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Do chesscom then go lichess

dusky hull
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Do neither. Quit chess. Dumb game. Hate myself.

cyan elm
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Fun lil mate in 3

dusky hull
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||pawn mates are top tier mates. ill make a tier list one of these days, but pawn mates are up there||

cyan elm
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@dusky hull where do you stand on smothered mates?

dusky hull
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definitely high tier as well

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maybe higher than ||pawn mates|| as seen above

dusky hull
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lowest tier mates, for the record, are queen mates supported by another queen. like cmon bro have some class.

tardy finch
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En passant mates stand above all though.

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For those curious how that would work, here is an example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zT83p6pMHg

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cyan elm
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I have a new goal in life

dusky hull
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nah, en passant mates are just a special case of the pawn mate. cool, definitely a high tier mate, but wouldnt say the highest of all time

cyan elm
dusky hull
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you ain’t got no mates PU_PeepoLove

dusky hull
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it isnt often, but sometimes i hit some absolute filth on someone out of the opening. i feel a little bad for this one ngl https://lichess.org/bDLQgx7H/black#1

rigid perch
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Damn, poor dude got blasted

dusky hull
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double knight sac by move 12 wasn't on my bingo card for today, but im glad it happened

rigid perch
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That's some foward vision

dusky hull
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its more just dont take your queen out too early in the opening lol

rigid perch
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Yeah

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But I wouldnt have spotted the mate with the double sac

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I need to improve my tactics

dusky hull
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ah gotcha. i had the idea there but white obv doesnt have to go for that

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they could go into a situation where they are much worse instead of capturing the knight

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or better yet dont push the pawn at all and just play f3 trapping the bishop

rigid perch
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I rarely accept sacs like those

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Unless it's hyperbullet

dusky hull
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there's a general rule in chess that if your opponent is offering you material, its sometimes okay to take the first offering. but if your opponent offers you something else again, accepting the second offering is going to be quite bad

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usually its pawns not pieces, but its still a decent rule to keep in your head

rigid perch
tardy finch
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General rule is, if it looks like Pert is giving away a piece, it's a trap

half hedge
dusky hull
dusky hull
grand idol
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white to play, mate in 3

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hint: its from agadmators twitter

dusky hull
# grand idol

similar in concept to woodsy's puzzle from a few days ago. very nice

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took me longer to see it. the perspective shift of looking at the side of the board instead of the top/bottom of the board kinda fucks with my tactics sometimes, even if you think it shouldnt

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its something i need to work on

grand idol
dusky hull
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Ye true

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With good reason. It’s really the spirit of the game

cyan elm
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very cool puzzle

cyan elm
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From Miles T vs Marshall, 1968

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||White won this game in 12 moves||

dusky hull
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||Bg5|| seems like an automatic. ||black dark squares are weak, unblocks rook, threatens Rd8 mate on next move||. i'd like to explore this more when im done watching my movie but im locking that in as my first move upon initial inspection.

grand idol
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am i dumb here

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what is stopping ||Qd1+ -> Kxd1 -> Bg5+ -> Ke1 -> Rd1#||

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isnt that mate?

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how did that take 12 moves lol

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or was that the whole game

cyan elm
grand idol
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ahhh

cyan elm
grand idol
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ya good catch

dusky hull
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Ah, right idea wrong move order. Good job leonard

dusky hull
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just had this position as white where my opponent played Bxh3 setting up a discovery from his queen.

Usually I'd say look for the best move in the position, but here I'll posit a different question: does black have an immediate threat that I need to respond to?

answer + reasoning: ||despite the impending discovery from the bishop moving, the knight looking somewhat scary on e5, and my kingside being compromised, there are no threats that I need to respect and can play the very calm Qxe5. Many times in chess, especially when under attack, you can start to see "ghosts" -- moves that you make out of fear because you see the opportunities your opponent has. It is really important to be concrete. It can be very easy to throw a winning game by playing scared. For example, a reasonable move at first glance is Bf3 adding another defender to the pawn. But black would still have Bxg2 Kxg2 and Qxf6 since now the bishop blocks the rook's defense to the knight, now taking the winning position and making it a draw. Seeing ghosts is a very real problem that we have to overcome as players so its important that when you're under attack you concretely think about what continuations your opponent has, if any.||

||so after Qxe5, black can still try Bxg2+ Kxg2 and Qg7+, but after that check we can either block with bishop Bg4 (since knight controls g4) or take the king on a lovely stroll to f2 and even e1 if necessary depending on what black plays, where the king will be very safe||

grand idol
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I cant see why not though, cause knight covers Rg8+

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and then you can move to e1

dusky hull
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Definitely would take

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Black just doesn’t have the follow ups

cyan elm
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So uh Magnus popping off

delicate peak
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completely

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its the hair.

dusky hull
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that game against quang liem was good defending on his part but im not sure why LQL decided to go into an endgame when he sacced two pieces for the rook. historically unless your rooks are incredibly active, 2 pieces for a rook is winning in an endgame

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all the same though magnus knows his ruy lopez quite well to hold off the pressure until an endgame comes on the board

cyan elm
dusky hull
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i only saw one

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one game of the whole match

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so theres a decent shot i missed something

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i know that it ended 3-0 without needing to play game 4

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but thats it

cyan elm
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Giri didn’t look good but I wonder if that’s partly due to Magnus being able to make his opponent play uncomfortable positions

dusky hull
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looking at the french game, giri actually had a really solid position once magnus committed the QS pawns.

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hold on ill screenshot

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magnus is black and giri is white here

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magnus committed the QS pawns and giri closed the position. if you're looking at piece placement, magnus' pieces are all on the QS which makes it a lot harder for them to find value. Giri's next move was f5, but preparing it first with Nh4 is probably the way to go because if exf5 after Nh4, then Nxf5 attacking black's best piece and the weak g pawn

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defending this position as black with g4 and h4 on the way i really dont know

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seems quite hard

cyan elm
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Yeah idk how Giri lost tbh

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Was wild

dusky hull
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looks like he played a series of slightly inaccurate moves

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and when you play at that level, 3-4 slightly inaccurate moves in a row is basically the equivalent of making one bigger mistake

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props to magnus for converting it obviously

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no easy feat to find the retaliation

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yea so this is the thought process i had. stockfish is saying best move is fucking Rg8, keeping the king in the center and aligning your rook with white's king. i know for fact i wouldnt have seen this if i was black. any other move other than Rg8 is just bad for black

cyan elm
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@dusky hull did you see Leela vs Stockfish btw

dusky hull
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which one

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theyve played a lot

cyan elm
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There was one like the other day

dusky hull
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is the engine competition going on

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or was this just a random thing

cyan elm
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Believe it was just a random thing

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Just such strange looking chess

dusky hull
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do you have a link

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doesnt look like agadmator covered it and i searched leela vs stockfish (and lc0 vs stockfish) and got nothing relevant

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i'd like to see it if possible

dusky hull
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@cyan elm agadmator ended up covering the french game between magnus and giri lol. i very clearly did not see the engine line, but at least i saw that f5 was giving up advantage so that's the win im going with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-Bv1-GJ1E

Have a great day :)

Giri, Anish (2732) - Carlsen, Magnus (2848)
Meltwater Champions Chess Tour Finals (chess24.com) [4] 2022.11.17
C11 French, Steinitz, Boleslavsky variation

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.f4 c5 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Be3 a6 8.Qd2 b5 9.a3 Qa5 10.Be2 b4 11.Nd1 Rb8 12.O-O c4 13.a4 Be7 14.Qe1 b3 15.c3 Nb6 16.f5 exf5 17.Qg3 g6 18.Bg5...

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cyan elm
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found link

grand idol
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white to move and destroy black

delicate peak
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||qa7 nxa7 nb6+ ka7 nxd7 and white is up a rook maybe||

delicate peak
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also

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whats with chess players having such a particular walk

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the way they swing their arms

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their gait

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pragg has it

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magnus has it

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most of them have it

grand idol
delicate peak
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||why is it a check, can't black play ka7 instead of kb8||

grand idol
delicate peak
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||very true||

tardy finch
# grand idol white to move and destroy black

I had a different idea for this puzzle and decided to involve Stockfish instead of Pert as the arbiter. Mine is just slightly worse according to the computer but easier to execute in my opinion:
||Nb6+, if Kb8 gg therefore Ka7, Nd7 discovered check, anything but Qd4 loses, queen trade, Nf6 to go after the pawn anyway.

Both positions have a passer and an awkwardly placed black knight, I just personally find it easier to play around it and the black king is nowhere near to support the defense. This approach is 0.1 worse.||

grand idol
delicate peak
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anyone else is free to try as well

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(but it will probably just frustrate you)

dusky hull
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Seems like ||Qf1|| is the way to go. Unless I’m wrong, there’s no move black can make stopping ||Qf4# or Qf6# dovetail mates|| depending on what black plays.

Open board mates are quite tricky but having the different mate ideas in your head can definitely be a good starting point for tactics or puzzle solving. My starting point was ||seeing the dovetail|| but I played and linked a game in here not too long ago where my starting point was the opera mate and the tactic kind of played itself in arriving there.

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Good puzzle

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ah i guess i shouldve been a little more concrete. ||Qf1|| is likely still the first move but i didn't take Qxe1 into account. Luckily white would still have ||Qxe1#||

delicate peak
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||qf1|| is the correct first move but after ||kxe6+|| what then?

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@dusky hull

dusky hull
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||Qf5#|| because 📌 s

delicate peak
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Yep

dusky hull
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mates where the pieces are pinned are very fun

delicate peak
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If you worked that out in 12 minutes then kudos, it took Magnus and Maurice like a minute or two

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It is considered one of the hardest mate-in-2 puzzles

delicate peak
dusky hull
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i dont think its that bad if you see the dovetail, but dovetail puzzles are one of my strongest tactical recognitions according to my puzzle profile

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if you asked me to find the blackburn mate im probably not finding it nearly as quickly

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(unless you told me it was a blackburn mate but that defeats the point)

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and no i know you werent flaming haha. im happy to have gotten it at all. im in no way on the same level as magnus or even maurice

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if you wanna see how good magnus really is at puzzles (granted, this video is limited to endgames only):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1SCXb2WA2U

On Thursday, Jan. 23, 2020, I had the incredible opportunity to film with World Champion Magnus Carlsen in Wijk aan Zee, The Netherlands! I recently completed a nearly 20 hour video course for GM Jesus de la Villa's 100 Endgames You Must Know, and Magnus agreed to take the 26-question Basic Test in the course. It was a pleasure to sit and chat w...

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30 minutes of him just acing position after position after position

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granted some of them are quite foundational, but definitely not all of them

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in particular, exercise 17 (16:40 timestamp) is something that i just dont know how he saw in like 10 seconds. this would take me substantially longer.

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just built diff

grand idol
delicate peak
grand idol
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ahhh

tardy finch
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I've been away from the board for a while but I got an interesting one just now. If black plays a passive move, it's mate in one.

Therefore, black to play and get an advantage worth more than the two pawns.

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Hint:
||In the game I got to pick up the white queen though it wasn't forced||

dusky hull
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||temporary queen sac to win the exchange?||

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being specific

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||Rc2+ Kh3 Qg4+ Rxg4 Bxg4 Kxg4 gxf6||

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although im not seeing a difference between queen move and bishop move going first after the ||rook check|| so ||Qg4+ and Bxg4+|| are probably interchangeable

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all the same, nice tactic

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@tardy finch wanna play after my lesson? I think itll be 10pm for you which isnt exactly early but probably not bedge time either

tardy finch
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I'm out of shape and you'll destroy me. But I'm not going to chicken out.

Just keep in mind I might still be in the way home at the time.

dusky hull
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thats fine just lmk

tardy finch
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||Listen not to Pert for he is a deceiver||

dusky hull
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???????????

dusky hull
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magnus winning meltwater 5 full points above So who came in 2nd is fucking wild

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he just absolutely crushed a whole bunch of super gms like it was nothing

tardy finch
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You regularly kick everyone's ass here so you are our mini-Magnus

dusky hull
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You drew against me and beat me yesterday SMH

void bramble
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|| I know you're a deceiver though; can't trust you ||

dusky hull
woeful wolf
grand idol
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anyone wanna play

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@dusky hull @tardy finch

dusky hull
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I would but today is the first group match for the US in the World Cup

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It’s starting in like 3 minutes

grand idol
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lol

dusky hull
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im just watching it on peacock

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you can just make some fubo/sling/youtubetv free trials and watch that way but i personally wouldnt do that until we get to bracket because they're only 1 week trials (unless you want to do it for every service and have 3 weeks total)

tardy finch
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I'm just coming home, we playing or watching?

dusky hull
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@grand idol he means you :p

grand idol
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im game

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shit I actually have a meeting rn for 30 mins

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I will @ u when I finish @tardy finch

tardy finch
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oh, okay

woeful wolf
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I’d play

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But I’m a bitch and my ass is still sore from pert

dusky hull
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????????

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we havent played in like a month

woeful wolf
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More than that

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I’m very sore

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And trying to improve

dusky hull
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thats good though

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you improve by playing

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you should play

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i bet you asiano or leo would play you when theyre free today

woeful wolf
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I’m playing vs bots

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And ye

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I just have to run rn

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Gotta get my snows on my car

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Before I have to abandon it at work again

grand idol
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@tardy finch u there

tardy finch
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Bit sleepy but I can play a game

grand idol
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sorry just finished

tardy finch
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No worries mate

grand idol
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k one game

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lol i forgot my bishop was gone

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gg

woeful wolf
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I’m particularly happy with this

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Just vs 1300 engine but still I was way behind and managed to salvage it

dusky hull
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pawn mates are clutch

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good job

dusky hull
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ayyy this is a solid daily puzzle from lichess

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2098 at the time i did it

tardy finch
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I dare say this would be harder with the black lsb off the board

dusky hull
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what black dsb PES2_Hmmmm

tardy finch
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You were the only one to spot the mistake so maybe also the only one to understand my point...

grand idol
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if I pulled this off in a game

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id be so hyped

dusky hull
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It’s a nice combination

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4-5 move tactics are great, especially with multiple piece sacs

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That’s why I was as happy as I was before with my double knight sac mate

delicate peak
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Guess who played this move

dusky hull
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David

delicate peak
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Like, Howell?

dusky hull
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Like, the bot that you hated

delicate peak
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LMAO

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No not quite

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Ivanchuk against Van Foreest

dusky hull
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thats a superb move btw, cutting off the defenses of the rooks from each other

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yea that seems like an ivanchuk move

delicate peak
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I believe it's an only move, wins material no matter what black does

void bramble
delicate peak
cyan elm
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Insane move

dusky hull
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yea it looks pretty devastating for black to deal with

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the next free day i have, i need to sit down and thoroughly study ivanchuk's games

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he's the most modern tal that we have, at least until the indian players get a bit more experience

void bramble
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David is your nemesis @delicate peak

tardy finch
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I heard you like geometry. Find the forced mate.

grand idol
dusky hull
delicate peak
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Speed chess championship format is so awesome

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Love a high sample size of games

tardy finch
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Here's an easier one which is also a good knight exercise - mate in two on board.

void bramble
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|| still bad at notation, but knight to e4, king to e1, other knight to d3? ||

tardy finch
void bramble
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Damn I literally screenshotted it and tried to do it by drawing on the screenshot cuz I'm so bad at remembering where things are after they move

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|| is it because the king goes to c3 instead ||

dusky hull
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its just your last move in the sequence is problematic because the knight can be captured on d3. similar idea, but choose the square where your knight cant be captured.

void bramble
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Oh || c2? ||

dusky hull
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yeye

void bramble
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Give me a sec

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I think this will work

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Had to change the name of the file

dusky hull
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i like the colors

void bramble
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Thank you

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I'm too used to the computer moving for the other colour; too hard for my brain to keep track of things

cyan elm
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Neat puzzle

dusky hull
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thats a cool one

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for those who want a hint: ||mate in 3, play each move with tempo||

grand idol
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|| nxh3+ kh1 qh2+ nxh2 ng3#||

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is that right?

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||smothered mates ftw ||

dusky hull
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would anyone like to play a game or two

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i want to get high first but im free for a bit

void bramble
dusky hull
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bet

void bramble
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lmk when

dusky hull
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this is definitely what i meant by getting high btw

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if you saw the attack i was planning there, i really applaud you

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nice game. wanna keep going?

void bramble
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I have no idea what I'm doing so no, I didn't see it 🤣

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I'm good ty though

dusky hull
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so basically i played d5 to close your queen off from the light squares and keep it on my side of the board. the idea was to attack the light squares on your kingside with moves like Bh3 (since your pawn was pinned by my queen) and force you to play pawn moves that would cause permanent weaknesses

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you playing f4 was solid because you got me off the light squares and gave your king a square to move if necessary

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thats why i thought you saw what I was trying

void bramble
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No I am at the "attempt to control the center trade pieces and try not to be too much of a dumbass" level

dusky hull
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you did great for that. honestly you only had one real blunder in the game despite whatever analysis stockfish might say. the move that basically took a relatively equal position to me having advantage was Qb3, keeping the attack on your bishop and introducing a new greater threat on your queen. from there, you were just trying to survive, and honestly you did make me work for it

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and your opening 10 moves or so were great

void bramble
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And this level but it's a computer not a person

dusky hull
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thats not bad at all

void bramble
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I have no idea how it relates

dusky hull
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a 1700 level of tactical awareness is going to win you some pawns or pieces. basically you're probably at the point where hypothetically if your opponent makes a blunder, you're catching it. like if your opponent hangs a queen by allowing a royal fork with your knight or something to that effect

void bramble
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I don't have much practice with games, for awhile I only really played Azor

dusky hull
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best way to improve is to lose a whole fuck ton to people better than you

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i'd encourage you to just play random people on lichess

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but again, you're following good principles

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i had no idea what your strength was going to be so when you played for piece development and central control i was already thinking you were doing quite well

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and even after you made a mistake you played moves that just kinda made sense to you even if you didnt see what i was trying

void bramble
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I don't really feel like playing random people so I don't

dusky hull
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fair enough. whenever you feel like playing again though just ask :)

void bramble
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Thank you ❤️

cyan elm
dusky hull
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@tardy finch @4:23 timestamp

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pretty sure i expressed this idea to you recently

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so now you know its not just me making shit up

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heres an IM telling you the same thing

tardy finch
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Oh, ye

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When I watched the video this phrase just dug a hole in my mind and now it's there to stay

dusky hull
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good

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its very important for counterplay reasons

cyan elm
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center op needs a nerf

dusky hull
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if you spend the whole game defending, you will eventually break

cyan elm
tardy finch
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Matters very little if I put more emphasis on fun than my endgames

dusky hull
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ive never seen levy's video on this game, no

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this is my first time watching it

cyan elm
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enjoy

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its a banger

dusky hull
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although so far up to the 7 minute mark this doesnt seem anything out of the ordinary

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i imagine itll heat up based on the title of the video

cyan elm
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oh it heats up

dusky hull
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i kinda wish the eval bar wasnt shown

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or like maybe shown at the end

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its giving me a lot of confirmation bias

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because i can sit here and tell you 2 central connected pawns and king safety is definitely compensation for the piece, but it only really feels like that because the bar is agreeing with me

cyan elm
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fair

dusky hull
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hahahah

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he mentions the eval bar at 11:52

cyan elm
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aha yeah

dusky hull
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but the difference is as the content creator HE CAN TURN IT OFF AND I CANT

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whatever

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anyway

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ill finish this rq

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ye that was a nice sequence

cyan elm
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against Giri as well very nicely done by Duda

dusky hull
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i got to play against not just asiano but asiano's dad today

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that was quite interesting lol

tardy finch
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we got rekt

dusky hull
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i dedicate move 15 to you @grand idol

grand idol
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the botez gambit 😄

cyan elm
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Pert learning of the Botez gambit is my favourite TSL chess lore

dusky hull
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LnwRHGIHg

while I think wired couldve gotten someone a bit more knowledgeable on this particular topic, and the queen move at the end wasn't all that ridiculous, I think Levy was an okay choice and the video overall is helpful for the layman. This video might actually help you guys in your online games if you can spot the telltale signs.

"Only a bot would play that!" Sacrificing a Queen in chess is a move you're much more likely to see a bot make as opposed to a human, as humans want to protect the game's most valuable piece. In the wake of the recent chess cheating scandal, Levy Rozman from GothamChess explains how you actually cheat at chess. Using artificial intelligence, see...

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at worst, its always nice to see chess in the spotlight via popular mediums

half hedge
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Gotham chess grew on me

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Initially I was a bit like ehhh this dude

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But after he commentated with Danya I was like ok he's alright

dusky hull
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i am currently lukewarm towards him. i find him certainly more engaging then some other chess content creators, but specifically in regards to cheating, i think there are people who would know better. this was likely just a really good chance for him to get even more exposure

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which im not saying is bad. chase the bag, you know

half hedge
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I prefer him to be the guy than hikaru that people give viewership(?) To

dusky hull
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yea understandable

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i'd prefer if danya was involved in everything xd

half hedge
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Yesssss

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Give me more Danya Angry

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I remember waking up at like 7am once and getting hyped because he was still streaming and it put me in a good mood to make a bunch of cookies...

dusky hull
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when you get in a good mood, you bake cookies. when i get in a good mood, i get baked. we are not the same.

dusky hull
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i just played (and failed) one of the hardest puzzles ive ever played

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i found the first two moves after about 10 minutes of thinking

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the third move was just

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ridiculous

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i sincerely applaud any of you who even attempt this let alone get a few moves right

grand idol
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got the first two right

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not the next one

dusky hull
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isnt that last move just fucking disgusting

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like it makes sense after you see it but good lord finding that over the board is impossible

grand idol
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ok so I think its because

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|| by getting tthe queen off the black diagonal, you can mate w the queen/bishop?||

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i couldnt have seen that

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I was trying to do some discovery w the bishop

void bramble
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I just kept trying different things until I figured it out KEKWaddle I do not think this counts

grand idol
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haha me too for the third move

dusky hull
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im getting pummeled today by these puzzles

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ive lost like 80 puzzle rating

void bramble
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what is your puzzle rating

dusky hull
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2586 now

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like a gambler, im gonna keep playing until i get it back

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inb4 i drop to 2400

void bramble
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I am still trying to get back to 1700

dusky hull
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puzzles really do be humbling

dusky hull
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i dont mean to spam the chat with puzzles but this one is too excellent not to share

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my advice for you guys is when calculating, don't write something off just because it seems dangerous. think about it all the way through.

woeful wolf
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I’m like 1600 (puzzles)

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And I just feel I’m not very good at the game and not getting better

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(Puzzles)

dusky hull
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Your puzzle rating is going to be hyper inflated compared to your real ratings, by several hundred points. Puzzles give an inherent advantage as you are always aware of an opportunity on the board as that is the whole point of the puzzle. In real games, you could miss very simple tactics that you otherwise would catch in a puzzle because no one is telling you to stop and look for it the same as you’d do while training.

Puzzles are also likely the least important part of chess (despite them being probably the most fun part) as if you can’t play sensible moves to begin with, tactics will never be in your favor outside of complete obvious blunders from your opponent. Tactics on the board occur when your pieces are positioned on ideal squares and can pressure pieces that are worth more (like how a fianchetto’d bishop will automatically be eyeing an opponents rook). so that’s why foundational concepts like piece development, king safety, and pawn structure all aid in your ability to create tactics while dissuade your opponent from creating his own.

Don’t be upset with yourself if your puzzle ratings isn’t as high as you want it or you feel like you’re stuck. Focus on principles and tactics come as a result.

dusky hull
dusky hull
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i cannot believe you didnt laugh @cyan elm im never posting another meme in here again

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you've crushed my spirit and waned my soul

void bramble
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Someone's not high

dusky hull
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excellent point

cyan elm
dusky hull
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oh right

woeful wolf
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All I have time for is puzzles atm

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Unfortunately

dusky hull
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Yea I feel you

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Don’t have much time to play the games I want to play so I’ve been grinding puzzles to try to keep myself sharp

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One day soon though I will finally go for a big rating push.

half hedge
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My life is so hectic atm I've had barely anytime to play

woeful wolf
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600 actual rating

cyan elm
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That’s beautiful

woeful wolf
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I do love the pawn mates

tardy finch
tardy finch
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Well... Depends on what you consider a blunder.

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Don't listen to Stockfish, it's a paid actor.

woeful wolf
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I beat a 701 elo person

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He should of won

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But ran out of time

tardy finch
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Hey, winning on time is legit. Feels bad at first (especially if you are the one losing) but it's part of the game.

woeful wolf
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I’ve done 3 games

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Every single person has tried for scholars mate

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This game was fun

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@dusky hull

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I’m so bad at actual chess I was never good but I think I can beat bots and barely that

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But roast me fam

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@tardy finch

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For entertainment purposes

dusky hull
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Nothing to really roast, sir. Enticing your opponent with a full piece was a very smart tactic as your bishop controlled the light squares and his king was the one under attack.

The only comment i have is black has a way to defend after you play Ne5 by playing Nd7, blocking the attack on the c7 pawn, so the continuation you needed to find instead of Ne5 was Qf8+ Kd7 (forced) and Bxg8 winning your piece back and being in a much stronger position, threatening to win the exchange with a check from your bishop unlocking a discovery on his rook. But like your opponent didn’t spot the only way to defend his c7 pawn, so you took full advantage of it. Nice job. Good piece sac.

woeful wolf
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I’m really happy with that one too

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I messed up a bit and he missed a win I feel

dusky hull
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I’ll check it in a few minutes. Glad you’re having fun though, that’s the most important part

tardy finch
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our boy is clapping peepohappier

woeful wolf
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Clapping wood league cheeks

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Ended up 932

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Got some splinters

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From the clap back I got

woeful wolf
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Man I watched the review of that one

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He threw bad

dusky hull
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chess games are a series of who can make the least mistakes. if he threw, he made more (or more potent) mistakes and you capitalized.

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so fuck it. if he threw, he threw. thats rating for you

dusky hull
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@tardy finch ping me when you wake up, i might be up

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idk if you wanna play in the morning but offer is there

void bramble
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Booty call, but do it in chess

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You up?

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🤣

dusky hull
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man the amount of times i ask people if theyre up to play chess

void bramble
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@dusky hull I made this for you

dusky hull
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lmao

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thank you

void bramble
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You're welcome

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I even changed the file name

dusky hull
cyan elm
dusky hull
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wait its your birthday right

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happy birthday

cyan elm
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Thank you sir

half hedge
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Happy Birthday Woodsy!

dusky hull
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@cyan elm im high as shit and just did this for you. this is your brithday present

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yes i know Bx was better, but Rx is so much cooler

tardy finch
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@dusky hull I'm up
@cyan elm Happy birthday Woodso! peepoBear

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Now you two kiss.

cyan elm
dusky hull
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@tardy finch I wanna get lunch but also let’s play today

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The offer is extended to anyone else of course; I just know I can guilt asiano into one or two games

void bramble
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@dusky hull

dusky hull
dusky hull
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this discord font looks awful

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but anyway, look at this fuckin game. one tactic to put myself in a winning position, and another tactic to end the game. my puzzle streaking has definitely helped https://lichess.org/GSH3kYTo/white#1

half hedge
tardy finch
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Here is one I liked

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Not going to specify whether you can win material or force a mate - that is up to you to find.

Play the best move.

void bramble
# tardy finch Here is one I liked

|| queen to f8, I can't tell if king takes queen or goes to h7 but if former, rook to c8 then d8 and if latter queen to g7?
It seems too easy so I assume I'm missing something but I have no idea what ||

dusky hull
grand idol
dusky hull
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this one is so fun

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i dont think its especially hard, but conceptually fun

void bramble
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Took more than one try but I got it pretty quickly

dusky hull
tardy finch
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Good day, citizens of TSL Chess. Here is a fun little one. The first move might be intuitive but make sure to find the whole sequence.

void bramble
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I don't like doing this without it updating 🤣

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Dunno if you can follow my brain but am I headed in the right direction @tardy finch

grand idol
void bramble
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|| oh man was I only one move away ||

tardy finch
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You are both perfectly correct.

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I love it.

void bramble
dusky hull
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If you guys want a few bonus points, try doing that same puzzle but without the knight on b8 and see how that changes things

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Still mate, but slightly different

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And when I say without the knight I don’t mean without using it. I mean pretend it’s not on the board.

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||Everything the same through Ke5 getting out of blacks Bf5+. But now with no N on b8, Rxf8 securing the back rank. If white just plays any move like Rhf1 attacking the queen, then Re8+ Be6 blocking, Rxe6#. And if white sees Re8+ leads to mate and tries to preemptively block it with Be6 instead of playing a silly move, then we move our bishop anywhere along the c2-g6 diagonal (except e4) to prevent any trade setting up Qe3 mate, and if white stops that by moving the rook over, then Qf6 is also mate ||

dusky hull
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oh man

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i just had a nice little mate in 3 combination that was kinda gross

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a lot of moves are winning because of the material advantage, but spot the mate in 3

void bramble
grand idol
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ya me too, that doesnt seem like it forces tho

dusky hull
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If you’ve gotten that far then keep going

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It is forced. You need one more move.

dusky hull
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Last move ||Ra1#||

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Also to answer you, whenever you see “mate in x” the number refers to the amount of moves required to mate from the person who is in that mating position. So like “mate in 4” would mean it would take a player 4 moves to reach checkmate, NOT it would take each player 2 moves each.

grand idol
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ohhh the pawn

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derp

dusky hull
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:)

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e3 multipurpose

tardy finch
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Where are the puzzles peeps

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Black to move and force mate

dusky hull
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I title this puzzle Run, Forrest, run!

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||Nf1+ Kxh3, Bf5+ Kh4, Rg4+ Kh5, Ng3+ Kh6, Rh4#||

grand idol
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christmas puzzle, white to mate in 2

grand idol
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I think the answer is ||f8=N+, Kxf6, dxe8=N#||

dusky hull
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Looks right to me :) nice puzzle, very festive

void bramble
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Now I'm afraid to do more 🤣

dusky hull
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hey congrats

tardy finch
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Keep going Rylira, you can go further!

dusky hull
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a truly phenomenal attacking game from dubov if any of you are interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-6XZdsXLlI

Photos by Lenart Ootes
Have a great day :)

Giri, Anish (2708) - Dubov, Daniil (2712)
FIDE World Rapid Championship (chess24.com) [10] 2022.12.28
D73 Neo-Gruenfeld, 5.Nf3

1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 g6 3.Bg2 Bg7 4.d4 Nf6 5.c4 c6 6.cxd5 cxd5 7.Nc3 O-O 8.Ne5 Ne4 9.Nxe4 dxe4 10.Bxe4 Nc6 11.Nxc6 bxc6 12.Be3 Bh3 13.f3 Rb8 14.b3 Rb4 15.Kf2 f5 16.Bxc6 f4 17.gxf4 e...

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giri even did really well to try to hold, but this game illustrates why attackers have the advantage

cyan elm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cswfzgo1MM my man had 30 seconds vs 3 mins against a GM

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cracked

dusky hull
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Yea it’s wild how much better he is than virtually everyone

cyan elm
dusky hull
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theres a video out there of him beating an IM in less than a minute as well

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like man cmon

dusky hull
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cyan elm
cyan elm
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neat lil vid

dusky hull
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@cyan elm chess com has a new bot you should try

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its name is mittens

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give it a shot, see how it goes

tardy finch
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NO WOODSY DON'T IT'S A CAT

dusky hull
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Woodsy likes cats

dusky hull
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im tired of losing to mittens so if anyone wants to play please let me know

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@tardy finch @cyan elm @rigid perch @wicked trout @grand idol obligatory pings

cyan elm
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Currently being torn a new one by mittens

dusky hull
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well if you dont want to play but you want to feel better, live vicariously through stockfish

teal furnace
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itsy in chess channel? sus

dusky hull
wicked trout
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so i can enjoy them wiping from the peanut gallery for now im afraid

dusky hull
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:(

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i wanna show you some new theory ive been playing with in the english

tardy finch
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Did you two play in secrecy?

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Also, since when is Satan here?

rigid perch
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I'm waiting for a graduation ceremony

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All dressed up and it's fucking hot in my city

tardy finch
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Pics or thesis didn't happen

dusky hull
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which is why i told you I think you and he could get some really good games in because you're roughly the same skill level

tardy finch
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I recall those. High level play.

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Nah. Itsy scares me. Itsy bitsy checksy matesy.

dusky hull
rigid perch
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Nah, I already did

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Close friend finished med school

dusky hull
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grats to him

grand idol
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white to play and draw

hint: || zugzwang||

tardy finch
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While the move order may be found by accident, I still love how forcing the idea is.

dusky hull
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Took me a sec but very neat

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I feel like finding defensive resources like this otb is what separates good and great players because you won’t always be winning your games

woeful wolf
woeful wolf
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Poor guy went to the fork shadow realm

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@dusky hull

dusky hull
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that feels so good to hit

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nice tactical spot

woeful wolf
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Not gonna lie felt nice

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when I saw the resign

tardy finch
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wicked trout
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funny lil puzzle rush endgame I played yesterday, as a hint, one kingmove wins, one loses and one draws

dusky hull
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the second game was disgusting

dusky hull
# wicked trout funny lil puzzle rush endgame I played yesterday, as a hint, one kingmove wins, ...

ive stared at this for like 5 minutes and i cant see how to convert but i think ||Kd5|| is the best king move.

Intuitively ||Ke5|| feels wrong because it allows ||Re7+ allowing the rook a free move to help get back to defend the a1 square||. I didn't look any deeper into that, but that one feels like the losing move.

And ||Ke6|| is proooobably the draw because while it prevents ||Re7+ and there's nothing stopping you from queening||, there's also nothing stopping white getting in ||c6|| so I'd imagine that black having a queen and white having a rook and 1 pawn 1 square from promotion, probably a draw. So yea, ||Kd5|| is like the only move left even if I don't really know how I'd go about winning

edit: I forgot to mention why ||Ke6|| draws but ||Kd5|| doesn't and that's because after the queen eventually picks up the b6 pawn and prevents promotion, white would have Rc6+ saccing the rook and deflecting the queen away from protecting the b8 square. If the king were on ||d5||, this fork doesn't exist.

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what puzzle rating was that mr itsy

wicked trout
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it occured in my game so there was no elo behind it, but my opponent didnt find it and I won with the queen

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after playing ke6

dusky hull
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ah okay, i thought you were just doing puzzles

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yea thats tricky, i highly doubt i'd find the correct move over the board in a blitz game

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but it does illustrate quite well that not all squares are equal when escaping checks

cyan elm
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@dusky hull did you watch Mittens vs Magnus bot

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Bot vs bot chess is kinda wild

woeful wolf
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I got promoted to bronze

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On that grind

dusky hull
void bramble
dusky hull
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Why they are mean to me

tardy finch
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For some reason chess.com lets me do a lot of puzzles today so yay, 2k club peepopartypants

dusky hull
dusky hull
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Let me tell you, this man was not happy. Not a hard idea to spot but satisfying when you spot it in game. Find the next two moves that give white a material advantage:

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answer: ||the black queen no longer has retreat squares due to the bishop blocking her in. c5 takes away the d6 square, and after black runs with Qd5, we have Bc4 completely trapping the queen||

grand idol
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I know the queen is trapped kind of, I want to move the bishop to b4 but then knight takes

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so Im thinking pressure the knight?

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but that doesnt work

dusky hull
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now think of all the ways you can attack the queen, and continue from there

grand idol
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bro im a dumbass

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idk why I didnt see || c5||

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thanks for the hint

dusky hull
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right, which opens the square for ||your other bishop|| :)

grand idol
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ya exactly. I guess to see || bc4 || u gotta see the first one

dusky hull
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right. in the game i also saw Bb4, but its not as forcing or as strong

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also just to clarify, black actually can avoid losing the queen by giving up the knight for 2 pawns, which is why i said material advantage

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but all the same it should be big winning for white

dusky hull
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@grand idol my boss had me doing some stupid shit

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im ready

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if you still wanna play

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or anyone

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not just leonard

dusky hull
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just ping me if tryna play

grand idol
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just buying dinner I will ping you uou when Im back

grand idol
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@dusky hull u still around

dusky hull
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ye playing @tardy finch atm

tardy finch
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Great, now I'm under pressure

void bramble
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How will I tell who is whom if you're both anonymous

grand idol
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whos who

dusky hull
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hes white

grand idol
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ya whos white

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kk

tardy finch
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Usually the winning side is Pert so that can help

void bramble
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Imagine thinking I can tell who is winning

tardy finch
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eh, so far no one

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But Pert will win

void bramble
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Confidence dude, confidence

tardy finch
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I'm currently being forced into trading as if I don't I'm fucked

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Can't really be confident right now

dusky hull
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idk you're up a pawn lol

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ok well you're not up a pawn anymore but you WERE up a pawn

tardy finch
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HANG YOUR QUEEN DAMN IT

dusky hull
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this is cringe for me

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how to try to draw: a masterclass

tardy finch
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As soon as I saw c5, my reaction was "I need to draw"

grand idol
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noooo you can't just trade down nooooo

tardy finch
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fuck

dusky hull
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i didnt mean to not add time to your clock

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i got distracted

tardy finch
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No, no

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Kf1 was the nail in the coffin, I missed that knight move

dusky hull
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idk i felt like i couldve won if i found some moves but time pressure

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my king moves were sus

tardy finch
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But you are winning this

dusky hull
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well yea when i was a piece up sure

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i meant before that

tardy finch
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Up until Kf1 it was definitely drawn but then I just snapped

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Although had you moved Nf4 afterwards, I'm not sure I can even stop mate

dusky hull
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Kf2 allowing me to win the pawn back and get a passed d pawn

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that gave me initiative

tardy finch
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ah, yes, that's the second row

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Kf2

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right

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I keep typing 1

void bramble
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Next time no running out of time that's not a satisfying viewer experience

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Beat each other roopolice

dusky hull
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so who is playing next

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asiano leo?

tardy finch
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You and leo because asiano needs to fucking sleep

dusky hull
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haha ok

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me leo

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sounds good

grand idol
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ok

dusky hull
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you can choose the time control

grand idol
dusky hull
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if memory serves, you like longer

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NOT CORRESPONDENCE YOU GOON

grand idol
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oh shit thats rated nvm

tardy finch
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Imagine playing correspondence chess

grand idol
tardy finch
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3 days later you get a call - "We've been trying to contact you about your extended move time"

dusky hull
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alright

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lets do it

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any particular reply or fucks it

grand idol
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no lol

dusky hull
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fucks it we ball

grand idol
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i shoiuld really learn openings huh

dusky hull
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this one is for you, asiano

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(i dont play the scandi seriously but here we are)

tardy finch
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My man playing my trash openings FeelsStrongMan

dusky hull
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listen man its not TRASH

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its just not perfect

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like the carokann

tardy finch
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Well, you play the aggressive variant while I just cave in and get slapped

dusky hull
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???

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the carokann is very reactive

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i play against what you do, sir

tardy finch
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I meant how you are playing the scandi right now. So far this is all theory actually.

grand idol
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im so bad

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bleh

dusky hull
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this is all theory???

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the hell it is lmao

grand idol
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couldnt u just take my pawn there

dusky hull
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no

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thats what i had to figure out lol

tardy finch
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Yeah, I've seen it in a SLCC video. Can't remember which one exactly though a similar position is the main point of the Scandinavian tutorial

tardy finch
grand idol
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ah

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but then my knight would be unprotected

dusky hull
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@void bramble are you not entertained

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throws arms up towards the applauding audience as men in armor kill each other on the board

tardy finch
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Yes, but you trade for his lsb while your pawns are strong there. You just bully your way through afterwards.

dusky hull
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while this game is going someone help me decide on dinner

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im famished

tardy finch
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Oh, right, I haven't eaten

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Raid the fridge, leave nothing in

grand idol
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get a burrito

void bramble
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Oh it's still going I'll watch

grand idol
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noooooo

dusky hull
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gg

grand idol
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ggs

tardy finch
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Dood

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I was so happy about you choosing violence and then this

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@wicked trout get in here, someone has to stop Pert

dusky hull
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im down to play more, im gonna order dinner anyway

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need something to distract me from the stomach decimating itself

void bramble
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Yes that was much better thank you

dusky hull
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of course, glad i could help

tardy finch
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Time for Ryli to play

dusky hull
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shes only played me once

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she doesnt do it anymore :(

tardy finch
dusky hull
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its been forever since skudde has played me

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and i havent played pudge like ever i dont think

void bramble
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I'm watching tv and you get pissy if it's not timed

dusky hull
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well i mean the game has to end right lol

grand idol
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Im down for one more

dusky hull
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bet

void bramble
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Correspondence chess ends eventually

dusky hull
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load er up

grand idol
tardy finch
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It's a good tradition as I have fallen asleep while playing

grand idol
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while u try to convince rylira to play

dusky hull
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i mean yea i think lichess correspondence technically ends after 3 days of inactivity or something

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alright my leo friendo

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ive been practicing my english and i dont think ive played white all day

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so here we go

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english time

tardy finch
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White wins by shooting down Black's messenger pigeon

dusky hull
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great snake var

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very good

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this is no longer the english but thats ok

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more of a kings indian

tardy finch
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I've seen this only in the four pawn attack thanks to chessle. Good stuff.

dusky hull
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i think thats somewhat known as the switchblade variation

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does it have f4 in it

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if so i think thats called the switchblade

tardy finch
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English
switchblade

dusky hull
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@cyan elm get your seaweed ass in here one day soon

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i will admit im incredibly comfortable in positions like this. ive played a heck of a lot of kings indians from the white side and it sort of plays itself

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its like the london but not cheesy and tedious

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ok so

grand idol
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well fuck

dusky hull
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in the spirit of rylira's bloodlust

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we go for something that i really dont know if it works

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but here we go anyway

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yea wow

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so i think the check actually made things worse for you believe it or not

grand idol
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you mean me trying to backrank?

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or you mean like

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taking your rook

dusky hull
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i mean Qb6+

grand idol
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ahh

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rip

dusky hull
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because you lost a defender of your knight

grand idol
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ah

dusky hull
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gg

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lets go and look

grand idol
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I think

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instead of knight f4

void bramble
grand idol
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i should have put Qd4

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to defend

dusky hull
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lol ok so after g5 apparently h4 is just crushing

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but i went for a different idea in the spirit of rylira's rage

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ha yea so like

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the eval after i play f4 is only like +1.2

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but after you throw that check in

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the eval swings massively

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its all because your queen isnt covering that knight anymore

void bramble
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I like the alliteration of rylira's rage

dusky hull
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weird to think that a check is worse for you in the position but thats chess for you

grand idol
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I wanted to take your knight with the check

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but u put your bishop in the way

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and i kind of tunneled

dusky hull
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yea that happens

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and i mean i think you can tell that danger is looming before you even play g5

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because look at my piece locations

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my rook, queen, and knight are all looking at your kingside. my bishop xrays it

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you'd have to bring pieces towards your king to take squares away from my eventual attack

dusky hull
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ill have to do the computer analysis on this at some point to see if theres more optimal play but i think you know that g5 is what did you in basically, and then the Qb6 move after that was the nail in the coffin

grand idol
dusky hull
void bramble
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Fight to the death

dusky hull
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hes gonna say something like tarlo is making him dance for him

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but on the off chance itsy is down to rumble

tardy finch
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Beat him

dusky hull
# grand idol i shoiuld really learn openings huh

you should learn one opening for white and one for black. not some cheeky cheesy gambit where you can mate your opponent on move 6 or something. a real opening.

for one, itll help you develop an idea of where your pieces naturally develop and maybe will break some habits (you love to fianchetto lol)

for another, getting comfortable in an opening can help you get a good position to where your middle game wont be disadvantageous from the getgo

grand idol
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do you have any recommendations

dusky hull
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Much as I hate to say it, the london system is a wonderful opening to learn as white because it almost doesnt matter how black responds, you usually do the same stuff anyway

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and as black, well youve gotta learn an opening against e4 and d4 primarily, but you can play c6 against both of them

wicked trout
dusky hull
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c6 against e4 is the carokann and c6 against d4 can be the semislav (or transpose into the slav)

wicked trout
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I just depleted a 22 academy so im sad tho

tardy finch
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Grunfeld for black, Pert hates it.
Joke aside, French is cool, Berlin is pretty solid...

dusky hull
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french is very very very theory heavy

tardy finch
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Only if you play it right. I go by the rule if I have no idea what I'm doing, there's no way you can figure it out. Now fight

grand idol
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can I just know like

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first 5 moves or something

dusky hull
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id say learn the theory until the theory says you castle

grand idol
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kk

dusky hull
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because at that point your king is safe, you have some pieces developed, you can make it to the middlegame relatively unscathed

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my coach very early on told me to think about chess like a book and your pieces like characters. in any good book, a character is going to have progression. they begin in their starting positions, and they grow. in chess thats the equivalent of getting them onto good squares and then you move them only when necessary, hopefully to better squares. if you never develop your pieces, its like if a book never develops their characters. pretty shitty book, right?