#♟️Chess

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dusky hull
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should say analysis

grand idol
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oh I see there we go

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yeah lol it goes from +6 to 0

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when u take

dusky hull
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you mean taking on c6 ye

grand idol
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fuuck so its the bishop checking that fucks up my plan

dusky hull
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yep

grand idol
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if king were on h file

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it would have worked!!

dusky hull
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pain

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its frustrating when a tactic is so close to working but doesnt

grand idol
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thats how a lot of my games go lol

dusky hull
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so at ~1400 as you mentioned, do you have a favorite opening at this point

grand idol
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not really, I guess I usually go like one of the middle pawns + bishop out

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and then try to fienchetto (spelling?)

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and castle

dusky hull
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see

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thats literally what i keep telling woodsy to do

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and hes like

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no im gonna play the london because fuck you

grand idol
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is that the london

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I just make a safe lil house for my king

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I need to learn openings

dusky hull
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if you're referring to g3, fianchetto lsb, and nf3, thats the reti

tardy finch
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Well .... technically speaking, London starts with a center pawn and bishop out...

dusky hull
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no you dont

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i promise

grand idol
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I know the latvian gambit

dusky hull
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asiano didnt know the benko at all and he did great today

grand idol
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sometimes u get a free win

tardy finch
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To say I didn't know it at all is a bit far fetched. You showed me a game where you played it, I just didn't study it in-depth. I still had a look at it though and we discussed a fair bit how it can vary.

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To be fair, I can't study shit in-depth against you because you aren't a one trick pony

dusky hull
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i hate all the gimmick gambits that force a win in the first 3 moves if your opponent doesnt know what theyre doing, because if your opponent does know what theyre doing, you generally just end up with a worse position

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case in point: the englund gambit

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fuck that garbage ill never lose to that shit again

tardy finch
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cough wayward queen cough

dusky hull
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loool

tardy finch
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Is PlayMagnus in any way affiliated with Magnus apart from the name?

dusky hull
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i dont really know

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i just thought the meme was funny

grand idol
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which I think is how most gambits work?

tardy finch
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I am running through the article quickly and I'll note that the Topalov-Kramnik scandal was source for tons of memes here and that was before meme culture was dominant.

tardy finch
grand idol
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you move your queen out

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I havent actually done that much research I just watched this video

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but pp think they're slick with #Qh5

tardy finch
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I am watching the video currently because I am curious what the plan is. f5 just looks horrible tbh

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Not to be a critic but the lad addressed the main line in less than 20 seconds by saying "I don't play that a lot" and showed 2 moves then focused on all the side lines.

grand idol
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I remember looking up more for that line specifically, but basically if he brings Q over to h5

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your queen is defending if he takes with knight

tardy finch
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Well, if I understand it correctly, the Latvian gambit offers a plethora of traps for white to fall into but if white is a good attacker, you're either getting overwhelmed or you're falling behind in development as you've only moved a queen.

dusky hull
# grand idol which I think is how most gambits work?

different gambits have different goals, so its hard for me to generalize that gambits lead to wild games. one of the most popular gambits--the queen's gambit--if accepted, can lead to incredibly positional games, because the entire point of that gambit is to unlock the e4 square.

grand idol
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crazy they named an opening after a netflix show

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xd

dusky hull
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xd

tardy finch
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They also named a gambit after the Captain America actor

dusky hull
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most of the gimmicky gambits like the englund gambit, the latvian gambit, etc, are after quick wins because of misplays

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then you have the next tier up which is dubious gambits that yield tempo advantages (usually to black) like the smith-morra gambit

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and lastly you have the sound gambits that yield positional advantages like the QGA and the Benko

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anything that is gimmicky is already garbage to me

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you lose one time to it, you learn to never fall in the trap again, and then you win the game because your opponent is an idiot

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the tempo advantage gambits have some merit because development is usually worth at least a pawn anyway, but its all about keeping the pressure. once you lose pressure, you fall back into a position where you're just down material

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the positional gambits are the ones that appeal to me most because im totally fine throwing away one or even two pawns if it means my pieces can become gods

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the danish gambit is a very good example of that actually

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white will sacrifice two pawns for the sake of a bishop pair that is beyond incredible

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(although, admittedly, the danish gambit is not the best example of a sound gambit, but it was good to bring up all the same. if black plays perfectly, black should come out ahead by 1 pawn)

tardy finch
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What about the ICBM gambit KEKW

grand idol
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I gotta look up the danish gambit

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the other one I know is the blackburn shilling gambit, which is even worse i think but it has the potential to bait people

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into a smothered mate

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which feels soooo good

dusky hull
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yea i mean the icbm gambit is just a reverse of the englund in what it hopes to accomplish

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sac the bishop, force the king away from the queen, win the queen

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fuckin trash

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you know what happens when you play someone who is aware of whats going on? you get curb stomped because you just gave up your two central pawns

tardy finch
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I actually pulled it off once against some chess.com streamer. Was truly disappointed to find out later that the stream was turned off and that filth wasn't actually recorded.

dusky hull
woeful wolf
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Once I beat an easy bot

tardy finch
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Oh, there he is

dusky hull
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easy bots are hard

tardy finch
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Every player has a personal grudge against the easy bots because of all those painful losses when you were new.

dusky hull
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ironally i have a personal grudge against a player named botbot7

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when i was first getting back into chess i was like 1100 or something on my throwaway acc and he beat me twice in a row and started shit talking me. he refused to do a rematch and then his account got banned for violating ToS (which could be a number of things, not necessarily cheating)

half hedge
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Hakuna mata guys

dusky hull
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but probably cheating

left glade
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big player to shit talk on 1100

dusky hull
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yea he was 1400 at the time and felt all big and proud

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and i bet i would absolutely crush him right now

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just wish i had the chance to do it

left glade
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ye prob

dusky hull
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so who are you gonna play first in here, skudde

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who is your first victim

left glade
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not sure about that

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maybe i'm the victim

dusky hull
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i still gotta see leonard and niarcus play

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i have a feeling niarcus goes hard

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like a 2200 sleeper in our midst

left glade
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that's insane

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how high are you playing?

woeful wolf
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im a sleeper

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1 elo sleeper

left glade
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i overslept raid start tonight....

woeful wolf
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Someone doesnt know which square the king and queen go on and doesnt know what en passant is

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thats who i can maybe beat

delicate peak
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this makes me feel peepohappy

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look at svidler

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looks like such a dad

dusky hull
left glade
dusky hull
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everyone else is trying to smile or look camera-ready and MVL is like what the fuck is going on

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what is this strange device being pointed at me

delicate peak
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he looks like he just finished a set to me

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half smile half exhausted

dusky hull
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thats that after-match stroke face right there

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when you know what you should be doing but your brain isnt cooperating any more

grand idol
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anyone wanna play a game rn

dusky hull
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i would but im fucking starving

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once i figure out my dinner plans ill lyk

half hedge
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I would but I'm intoxicated af

dusky hull
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oh so do you not say every hole is a goal when you're sober

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@grand idol do i just order pizza to end this dilemma

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i think i just order pizza

grand idol
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you can do better than that come on

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unless its like really good pizza

dusky hull
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stockfish evaluation of the position has me winning if i play the move perturb orders pizza

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surely

grand idol
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fuck i gotta go get food too

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last game before i go get food watch me lose

dusky hull
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yea we cant spectate live chess com matches without an acc

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yet another reason lichess is dominant

grand idol
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ok ill start grinding lichess again

dusky hull
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https://lichess.org/SPRSDSmS/white#11
LOOK
BEAR WITNESS TO ME DESTROYING A STUPID ENGLUND GAMBIT PLAYER WHO THINKS HES GOING TO GET A FAST WIN
BUT I KNOW THE SECRETS
I KNOW YOUR TRICKERY
YOUR FUCKING DOGSHIT OPENING WONT FOOL ME

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fucking dogshit englund gambit players smh

cyan elm
dusky hull
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No

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White will always have at least a pawn and a positional advantage

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With perfect play it is losing for black

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Garbage fucking opening that plebs use to try and get quick wins

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Not even chess

cyan elm
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I think my favourite gambit is Danish

dusky hull
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its not something id recommend to people who want to grow accustomed with the principles, but its a solid gambit. i talked briefly about it earlier today

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having a really strong bishop pair going into the middle game is certainly something that can win you the whole game

rigid perch
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Ay sir

dusky hull
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hello fren

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sorry for the ping earlier, we were trying to figure out who i forgot to invite and i thought maybe you knew

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but we got it sorted

dusky hull
grand idol
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idk i won xd

grand idol
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he could have moved it

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to a3

dusky hull
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because hes a stupid mother fucker and forgot about my knight

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so he thought i'd have to sac my queen because of his bishop

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you have to remember that englund gambit players are not real chess players

grand idol
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lmao

dusky hull
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if you ever encounter an englund gambit player, rest assured you're playing against an NPC who will just start shrieking as soon as you debunk the dumpster fire that is his opening reply

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@cyan elm and yes, i hate the englund more than the london. the london, although super passive and bitchmade, is at least an opening that follows principles

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the englund is just 2 or 3 cheap tricks that, once refuted, leave black worse for wear.

cyan elm
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Englund is like scholars mate tier

dusky hull
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im glad you understand my seething hatred for it

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I lost to it one time when I was learning and I said absolutely never again

dusky hull
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@grand idol lmk when you're done with dinner and we can play

grand idol
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im done

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go easy on me @dusky hull

dusky hull
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whoa a rapid game

grand idol
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i mean unless u wanna play less time

dusky hull
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no rapid is fine

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its actually what i prefer, i just play shorter time formats for the boys

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gimme 2 seconds, bio

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alright broseph, destroy me

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very aggressive opening

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if i dont defend well enough, this could come crashing down

grand idol
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fuuu

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dude I knew you were going for that

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idk why i didnt defend it

dusky hull
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if allowing me the fork on your pieces was intention, i fucked with it

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just not sure it really led to a lot of initiative once i was able to castle long

grand idol
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yeah I thought the rook would keep em ok

dusky hull
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wanna play again?

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just hit rematch if so

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do you have any particular opening you enjoy playing against, or want practice against

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i cant promise i know the main line, but i can at least muddle through the first few moves im sure

grand idol
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no clue lol

dusky hull
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okay no worries

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esketit

grand idol
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fuck that was a nice tactic

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forgot the pawn was pinned

dusky hull
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we love tactics in this house

dusky hull
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fuck

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that is one of the juiciest bishop pairs+queen diagonals ive ever had

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no disrespect to you at all

grand idol
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the triple

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gg

dusky hull
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gg brother

grand idol
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one more for now

dusky hull
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ye

grand idol
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im in shambles

dusky hull
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yea it was a rough start

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we can do a restart if you want

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i liked the f5 push to get the rooks into the game

grand idol
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aahhhhh

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gg

dusky hull
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gg frendo

grand idol
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i tried lol

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that was fun id love to play again later if you dont get bored of beating me

dusky hull
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yea it was a rough spot to be in. like i said though i like you getting the rooks in the game by opening up lines, and not trading queens

grand idol
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i for sure thought I could have done smethng with my knight

dusky hull
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nah man its not about winning or losing. i just love going through the games afterwards and seeing how i can improve

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everyone can improve regardless of the outcome of the game

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so a few notes unrelated to losing the bishop

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if you're gonna push e5 in the sicilian, you have to do everything in your power to prevent black from winning it. the e pawn can be white's biggest advantage or white's greatest liability depending on how you play

grand idol
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right i let you double up knights and get it

dusky hull
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youll notice stockfish eval is gonna drop from a relatively even game to -2 in black's favor as soon as i could capture it

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that e pawn is critical

grand idol
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good advice ty!

dusky hull
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ye. and lastly if you're already down in material and you're trying to attack because its all you have, don't be afraid to give even more material

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like on move 20

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i kinda expected you to sac your rook for my dsb

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because then your dsb could potentially become a really good piece without one of my own to oppose it

grand idol
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i was thinking about that

dusky hull
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you already have a knight and queen in front of my king, so giving up an exchange could be worth it

grand idol
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but then you take with queen

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and can push away my queen+lnight

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i didnt want your queen to get over there

dusky hull
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yea, i mean in this particular position it doesnt exactly pan out in your favor, but it wouldve been a bit more resilient putting my queen on the diagonal that your dsb controls

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and then id have to play carefully

grand idol
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like say you take with queen, then if I take with bishop you just take my knight

dusky hull
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you never know, your attack might work because attacks are usually dependent on your opponent not messing up

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what

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no

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i cant do that

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if i take your knight im blundering

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you take my queen with yours, and my pawn is pinned

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because your dsb

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see what i mean?

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i have to be really careful

grand idol
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no I mean

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your queen is on f6

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i take pawn on e5 with bishop

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ohhhhh

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brooooo

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i didnt even think of the pin

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DUDE I SAW THAT LINE

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and was like naw hes gonna take my knight

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fuuuuck

dusky hull
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and that pin is all because you sac the exchange

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granted, black can defend that position and still be winning. but its a trap.

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and when you're down in material, you have to play sneaky

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and set these kinds of traps

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so saccing the rook was an option

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but overall you had good ideas

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if you make it to the midgame with all your pieces, im sure you can be a real fucking menace lol

grand idol
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right ofc yeah its still bad

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haha thanks

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i keep fucking up early

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im gonna start playing more 10 min

dusky hull
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well when we play again you probably wont

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and then we'll see what you're made of >:)

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but yea im a big advocate of at least 10 minute games if you're seriously trying to improve

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blitz and bullet are good for building intuition and pattern recognition, but 10+ min games are where you develop strategy and where you nurture your calculation skills

dusky hull
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oh boys

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im gonna humble brag here for a second, but i have a cool puzzle for anyone who wants to give it a shot. it happened in a real game of mine just a few moments ago.

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white to move, following black playing Qd7. See if you can find the first move, but then see if you can find the next two moves that actually make it lethal

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in case some of you try it while im asleep, here's the answer:
||b4 prompting Nca4. Nxa4 Nxa4, and then the real move you had to find: bishop back to d1, and now what do you do: your knight is attacked twice: the rook and the bishop. and it has no squares to jump to. b6 covered by dsb, c5 covered by pawn, b2 and c3 covered by queen/rook||

this is the wrong answer, but something you might've considered along the way: ||b4 Nca4, Bxb6... but remember that knights can move backwards so the knight that just jumped to a4 can jump back to b6 and take the bishop back, recapturing and getting out of danger in one move||

half hedge
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Do you ever sleep @dusky hull

dusky hull
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do you

half hedge
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I do but drinking alcohol for some reason makes me wake up early

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It's chess day again

dusky hull
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Everyday is chess day

half hedge
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Yesterday was day off for tourney

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Elon tweeting about the drama

dusky hull
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Elon is such a fuckin troll

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He’s a genius, but a troll.

half hedge
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Oh shit apparently Daniel Naroditsky went on about the situation for like an hour on yesterday stream

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Also impressed his chat is calling Magnus "Maldnus"

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He also started the stream by saying he's gonna take a "Hans off approach today"

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I wonder how often Hans checks the subreddit

tardy finch
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@half hedge let's playyyy

half hedge
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So you can ruin me

tardy finch
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I'm waiting for food

half hedge
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I made a duck army,

tardy finch
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I'll be gentle

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Duck army?

half hedge
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I made many duck shaped shortbread biscuits

tardy finch
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Oohh

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Thanks, now I'm hungrier but still waiting for food FeelsWeirdMan

half hedge
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What food you getting?

tardy finch
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Pizza

half hedge
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Wait what timezone are you in

tardy finch
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+2

half hedge
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Pizza for Lunch Pog

tardy finch
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No adult supervision PeepoAwesome

half hedge
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i can't say much, I'm eating shortbread for breakfast

tardy finch
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Good thing Google has my back, I was wondering why bread would be specifically cut to be of some length

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Do I have to take a picture of the pizza if Ghost isn't in the thread to enforce the rule? monkaHmm

smoky swan
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im here

half hedge
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Hello Ghost

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You like Chess?

tardy finch
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O shit

smoky swan
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ty

tardy finch
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So, you play chess?

smoky swan
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nope 🙂

tardy finch
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Wack

half hedge
tardy finch
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It is. But the rest was great.

left glade
tardy finch
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It's not like I tagged him specifically 😓

left glade
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Wasn't there something that shows you different tags like Ghost, ghosteld without being tagged correctly?

smoky swan
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🙂

tardy finch
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You can do that?

half hedge
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I want that so I can be creepy

left glade
half hedge
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It's like sometimes I enjoy having my Dm's open so I can see the typing icon from people and then I send them '' Eyes '' whilst they are typing

left glade
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No i'm afraid to write it again. Don't want to make G angry

half hedge
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Guys

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we found it

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How Hans cheated.

left glade
woeful wolf
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Devious

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Just open with bongcloud attack every game

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And refuse to elaborate

dusky hull
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Is ghost here to moderate feelswaytoosweaty

dusky hull
# half hedge

This is disgusting. Can’t believe hans would do this.

half hedge
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We all knew it was true

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we just didn't want to admit it

tardy finch
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I am still trying to figure out the purpose of that random brick behind Magnus

woeful wolf
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If you say “ghost” he is summoned

tardy finch
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What if I say "the mod apparition"?

half hedge
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Why do you want him here smh

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there is no food

dusky hull
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Is it like Bloody Mary where you have to say his name three times in the mirror but instead of killing you he just shows up and expresses his disappointment with the current mm build in Dragonflight

woeful wolf
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Ghost ghost ghost

woeful wolf
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So I haven’t kept up with this

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But hasn’t Hans said he’s cheated in the past

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I guess it’s online

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But I can see why someone might feel skeptical

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The whole thing seems weird

cyan elm
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I heard Hans snuck an extra queen onto the board when Magnus wasn’t looking

woeful wolf
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Can’t see how he would of cheated there

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Footage of the game

half hedge
woeful wolf
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Yeh

half hedge
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like, 3 (?) years ago

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but cheating online is much easier than cheating irl

woeful wolf
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I can say like with speed runners it usually comes out with cheating 1 run then finding out dozens more are cheated

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So I am skeptical of past cheaters

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In general

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I just don’t know how he would of cheated there wasn’t it an in person tournament

half hedge
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yeah

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and they get security scanned the lot before going in

woeful wolf
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Do they check for vibrating anal bead

half hedge
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yeah i read this was fucking hilarious

woeful wolf
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Poop chute stock fish

smoky swan
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@woeful wolf stop pinging me om at work

half hedge
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By rook or by crook,
He put his hans on King Magnus,
With cunning and calculation,
We did not yet know the crowds forever ovation,
First from a Yasser,
With a Svidler in hand,
The trumpets blared,
The peasants did stand...
He was mercurial, eccentric, an idiot of the court,
The jester, the jouster,
A knight upon the Kings medieval fort....
The bishops stood watching,
As the king rode in,
On the square of the pawn,
It was Hans the pleasant the mob did send in,
He rode asunder, his helmet ablaze,
On a midnight horse,
His cunning unfazed,
The drama unfolding as page turned to page,
An imperial dual on the sinquefield stage.
The king triumphantly rode in to battle the fool,
A matter of course for the outcome he knew?
He was the champion of champions,
The golden lot of his age,
Before him yet another sacrificial simpleton page,
But with the opening verse came a surprise,
A Catalan transposition,
The jester set forth on a 64 square imposition,
The king still awaiting the inevitable inquisition,
But his trap was exposed,
The spring did not spring,
The king didn't know there would be such a thing...
The king steadied and henceforth sought liquidation,
His end game of legend,
The sorcerers stone,
The water from rock upon his kingdom was grown,
But the idiot parried,
And landed a jab,
The king stumbled but was still ironclad,
The jester danced, a knight and his rook,
But we all knew the end of this middle age book?
We had seen it before,
The king would escape,
Unless thee the story of Henry the 8th,
The peasant maneuvered,
Battling against fate,
The peasants threw stockfish, but it was only bait,
A tick of the mind,
The doubt of a king,
Even Alejandro couldn't believe it a thing!
The prophets declared lines of escape,
As the jester showed imprecision,
But it the mind of the king, these were Merlin's decision,
But it was the hand of the Hans decided who decided his fate,
The shake of the hans,
Instead of checkmate!

woeful wolf
smoky swan
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@woeful wolf extremely busy day at work and im drowning

woeful wolf
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Delegate me some work I gotcha

smoky swan
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i mean i gotta go outside

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and check out marine vessels

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even if i could delegate

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i couldnt

woeful wolf
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Fly me out there I’ll do it

half hedge
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♟️

woeful wolf
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I worked in a chain and anchor resale yard 1 summer in college I’m basically qualified and totally know everything about boats *

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(* I know nothing)

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@dusky hull you should do like a “bronze league hero’s” chess cast

tardy finch
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Then let's get our bronze heroes going

woeful wolf
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Pudgy beating the hell out of Stormvine in chess

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Pudgy is cheating

tardy finch
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I want to see that

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Aaaaand Pudgy immediately starts up League

woeful wolf
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I have work rn alas

half hedge
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WUT

woeful wolf
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Then I have keys to heal

half hedge
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i didnt know the offer to play chess was on the table

tardy finch
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It's always on the table

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You just have to ask

woeful wolf
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After work I’ll play until it’s time to heal keys

dusky hull
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Work has been annoying as fuck today

tardy finch
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There was this Starcraft comentator you might have heard of - Husky

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He used to do a cast like that and you might find remnants of it on other channels - he deleted all his videos after he stopped producing content.

half hedge
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Queens dead

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kings move

dusky hull
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#freehans

dusky hull
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i havent slept and i have time for one single game

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who wants to do it

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you have the advantage of rest on your side

delicate peak
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sure

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@dusky hull

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im too slow..

tardy finch
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Ohhh content

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... guess not

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@half hedge app tells me you issued a challenge, is that correct?

half hedge
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no

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I havent been on it today

tardy finch
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Weird

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I clicked accept anyway.

dusky hull
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@delicate peak after my conference calls i will be down again

tardy finch
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How do you stay awake during those

half hedge
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he doesn't

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what is the o-o

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OwO

dusky hull
#

it means castles (short)

half hedge
left glade
half hedge
dusky hull
half hedge
dusky hull
#

just focus on the greens :)

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and try not to make the reds next game

half hedge
#

I only made one

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so thats not bad i guess

dusky hull
#

well blunders, like most other things in that chart, are categorized by centipawn loss. so maybe you were winning by a forced mate and you made a move that took you to +50 which means you're still massively winning but you just didnt play the best move so blunder

left glade
tardy finch
#

I'll be home in several minutes, who's up for games

#

No enhancements today

half hedge
#

Enhancements MonkaW

tardy finch
#

I can smell someone being online

left glade
dusky hull
#

my coach asked me what i think is my best chess quality and i said my ability to mount a defense after blundering terribly

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and he said

tardy finch
#

@half hedge castling long in a position where you moved two of your queenside pawns forward isn't particularly safe but luckily for you, your opponent is in no way to attack you there. Try to develop more pieces.

half hedge
dusky hull
#

"yea, you do that very well"

half hedge
#

HE'S WATCHING

tardy finch
#

I'm always watching peepocreep

dusky hull
#

and im like damn ok compliment but

#

he totally did not disagree

half hedge
#

im just waiting for my hair dye to develop 😦

dusky hull
tardy finch
#

I still haven't seen you blunder, Pert, so I think your coach might have been just confused and didn't want to argue

half hedge
#

F

tardy finch
#

You're better here.

half hedge
#

wait what

#

how

#

OH WAIT

#

HE CANT TAKE IT WIHT THE KNIGHT

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IM DUMB

tardy finch
#

Black has 5 undeveloped pieces for starters

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And out of the two knights that are out, one is locked in jail

half hedge
#

Fuck

tardy finch
#

Why?

#

Why do this 😄

half hedge
#

because Im dumb af

tardy finch
#

It's still not over, keep going.

#

Edit: that was worse

half hedge
#

but

#

if he takes it

#

i can bishop it

#

?

tardy finch
#

Or just take it yourself?

half hedge
#

but his bishop will take it

tardy finch
#

Now both your rooks are hit by a knight that didn't have anything better to do

half hedge
#

now he could check me

tardy finch
#

So?

dusky hull
tardy finch
#

It's a simple check. Nothing more. You're in no danger. Your pieces are in poor positions though so you need to shuffle them around a bit.

half hedge
#

now i sweep up pawns?

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or well those 3

#

wait no

#

he can take my queen if i go for the back one

tardy finch
#

Mhm

half hedge
#

the rook ?

tardy finch
#

King is forced to f7, rook check

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Oh, free knight

half hedge
#

TRUE

#

the bishop was protecting it

tardy finch
#

Game is currently equal but you have way more time. Play calm and don't rush.

left glade
#

Asiano Coaching

dusky hull
#

we love to see it

tardy finch
#

Yeah, great idea to take advice from someone who hangs a king regularly

half hedge
#

GUC

#

HJIRO GHREHGJRTH

#

WI HAD THE WRONG PIECE SELECTED

left glade
tardy finch
#

HE FELL FOR IT

#

THIS IS WINNING

half hedge
#

oh

#

wait

#

what

#

how

dusky hull
#

lmao

#

"he fell for it"
"what how"

tardy finch
#

Wait, that wasn't on purpose?

half hedge
#

🤓

#

no

#

I wanted to move my rook

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to where my knight moved

tardy finch
#

Pretty sure it's forced mate

half hedge
#

wait

#

how tf do i move from here

dusky hull
#

usually by clicking

tardy finch
#

Get your queen to d1, prepare for an attack

half hedge
#

i dont see it

#

at all

tardy finch
#

Ok, see this - you have a rook, queen and knight against a king that has nothing nearby.

#

Nh3

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Check the king and win yourself time to move the rook out of danger

#

Mate in 4. All yours.

left glade
half hedge
#

I DONT SEE IT

#

AAAA

dusky hull
#

still waiting for the skudde asiano showdown

#

not to mention NIARCUS

tardy finch
#

That is correct. Mate in 3.

#

Hint: ladder mate

#

Not this way but it works.

half hedge
#

or just time i guess

tardy finch
#

It was Qg4+, Kh2, Rf2+, Qg1#

#

Just drive the king into the corner where there is no support.

half hedge
tardy finch
#

Well, most of that is due to not spotting how to get a winning position through constantly being on the offensive. Realistically, you had just 1 actual blunder.

half hedge
#

Honestly I have no idea how to finish games

#

I can barely ever see a check

dusky hull
#

yea if you repeatedly dont see the same idea when its your turn a couple times, you can wrack up centipawn loss even though you're realistically only making the same blunder again and again

tardy finch
#

Well, try to get a mate. There are actually some excellent training exercises.

dusky hull
#

PUZZLES

tardy finch
#

Ladder mate is the easiest of all.

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Once you get the concept of that, you will find that sometimes all you need to finish the game is a rook and some open space.

tardy finch
dusky hull
#

yea missing mating sequences can be pretty detrimental to your overall calculation at the end

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even if they're hard to follow as a human

tardy finch
#

@half hedge more games pepegunR

half hedge
#

IM SORTING OUT MY HAIR

#

im changing my fringe to white

tardy finch
#

So no games? sadboi

#

Alright, who's free then?

woeful wolf
#

Pudgy

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Just play the bongcloud attack every game

#

You will confuse your opponent

dusky hull
#

storm

#

play chess

woeful wolf
#

I’m at work

#

Had Dr appointment

#

Now working

#

Then gotta sneak out of work early for blood and urine tests

#

So actually gotta work for a while

half hedge
#

I have food now also

tardy finch
#

game?

half hedge
#

I WOULD BUT

#

MY BROTHER IS PLAYING CHESS AGAIN

tardy finch
#

Soo ... uhhh ... new challenger?

half hedge
#

he could be

dusky hull
#

It’s a good thing I was paying attention to this call because my boss just asked me a question after like an hour and a half of no one talking to me

half hedge
#

HES LAUGHING AT ME

tardy finch
#

Is that your brother against you?

half hedge
#

yeah

tardy finch
#

I'm joining late but looking at moves, you blundered as early as move 2. That's one thing I learned from Pert as he made sure to demonstrate why it is so terrible - do not play f6.

half hedge
#

iu screamed in voice

tardy finch
half hedge
#

we dont

#

talk about it

tardy finch
#

To be fair, your brother is giving you a chance here and there. Either that or he's blundering hard but I doubt someone at that level thinks about a move for a long time then just hangs a piece straight up.

delicate peak
#

give her queen odds

tardy finch
#

A little tip on your last move - do not put your rooks on the same diagonal for no reason, especially if that diagonal is completely open and has a queen/bishop lurking on it.

half hedge
#

yeah I wanted to hang myself

tardy finch
#

No need. Everyone makes mistakes. Just make sure to learn from them.

half hedge
#

I will one time in my life

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beat him

tardy finch
#

You follow that goal

half hedge
#

as a kid he used to always get the frosted chess board out and id have no idea wtf was going on

tardy finch
#

Oh, you two are playing again. I'll get the popcorn ready. SALTY popcorn.

#

OH NO, IT'S ACTUALLY A TSL MATCH

half hedge
tardy finch
#

This was pure content

#

A rollercoaster of emotions

half hedge
#

I WAS PROBABLY WINNING SO BAD

tardy finch
#

+55

half hedge
tardy finch
#

WOW

half hedge
#

😎

woeful wolf
half hedge
tardy finch
#

Wait, are they playing again

half hedge
#

okay my side said it was his turn but apparently it hadnt played my move

#

nice.

delicate peak
#

what the fuck is this game lol

#

Every move they've both played is Best basically

#

99% accuracy for both

grand idol
#

looks like white is gonna win

#

gonna push the a pawn

#

what the fuck

#

why did he go down the exchange without any pawns???

#

is king bishop vs king rook a draw?

delicate peak
#

That would depend a lot on the actual position I think? In this case it was because there was no way to save the rook

#

So it was just king bishop vs king which is a draw.

grand idol
#

ok so @delicate peak on move 42, why didn't white try to go rook A1 instead of just trading

#

how does black defend against rook h1 and then taking with bishop

delicate peak
#

Rook A1 leads to a line where black queens

dusky hull
#

engine preparation--and the knowledge that gm's need to have at this level--are both impressive

#

cool share

half hedge
#

I am full team Han's now

#

I'll be your support network Hans

#

What is a support network ?

dusky hull
#

idk if this was linked before or not

#

but

#

this was so cathartic to watch

cyan elm
dusky hull
#

oh i was

#

i found a calm in the chaos that is his disappointments

cyan elm
#

tbh this heavily supports your theory that to be a great chess player you have to be neurologically different

dusky hull
#

you don't have to be, but if you are, you might also be a chess gm

#

him screaming "why am I so fucking stupid" after blundering is literally how I feel any time I make a single mistake in a video game

delicate peak
#

is his reaction to being stalemate-swindled by Naroditsky in there

#

"WHY IS HE SO SMART"

#

"WHY IS HE SO SMART"

#

oh ye its the first one

#

amazing

dusky hull
#

Yea man tricking your opponent into stalemate is so 9000iq

#

It’s happened to me a few times due to recklessness and it never feels better

half hedge
#

Stalemate seems to be the way I win most games.

cyan elm
delicate peak
#

A DRAW IS NOT A WIN PUDGY

half hedge
#

Stop being salty, I beat your ass.

cyan elm
woeful wolf
#

Tbh

#

I would agree to an extent

#

People can change sure and be better but do most people?

#

That said

#

I don’t see how he could of cheated here

#

So until evidence is provided

#

It’s SaltShake

cyan elm
woeful wolf
#

Ah

#

Well regardless

#

The same accusation has basically been slung basically by others I think

cyan elm
#

Yeah it’s a shitpost from anarchy chess

woeful wolf
#

Ah

#

I haven’t been keeping up with it too much

cyan elm
#

This pin is pretty funny

woeful wolf
#

I do think If your going to insinuate someone cheated you should elaborate and show proof

cyan elm
#

Yeah it’s a heavy accusation to throw around

woeful wolf
#

But I can’t be assed right now to even think of how he could of cheated

#

Pure misery today 🤢

cyan elm
#

Sure he has a right to live and be happy

woeful wolf
cyan elm
#

But he doesn’t have a right to accuse people of cheating without providing proof

woeful wolf
#

Yerp

cyan elm
tardy finch
#

Anyone up for a quick game?

half hedge
woeful wolf
#

@dusky hull whats my move here

tardy finch
#

"Set up game"

#

Storm, do you actually want to play?

woeful wolf
#

nay not atm

#

about to get groceries

delicate peak
#

hyped as fuck for the for the global chess championship

#

starts sep 14

tardy finch
#

Do you plan on going there and showing them how real chess is played?

half hedge
#

Nah he'll just get stalemated

woeful wolf
#

Who is gonna write the TSL Chess guide

tardy finch
#

Pudgy seems to have a confidence boost since yesterday

woeful wolf
#

Pudgy chess guidewriter

half hedge
#

blunder all your pieces and run around the middle of the board hoping or a stalemate

tardy finch
#

@grand idol I hereby extend an official challenge to a chess game

#

Pudgy, that's not how you play, why would you recommend it to other people?

#

You blunder near the edge of the board

half hedge
#

i learned from @delicate peak that a knight on the rim is dim

tardy finch
#

Unless that same knight captures your queen

#

@half hedge You wanna play a game? peepocreep

half hedge
#

sure

tardy finch
#

Wait, really?

half hedge
#

sure

#

where you wanna play

woeful wolf
#

send people to the shadow realm

tardy finch
#

Well, depends on whether or not we got spectators. Either way, it's your choice really.

delicate peak
#

can spectate either way

tardy finch
#

k chess com it is then

half hedge
#

Yes Sir

tardy finch
#

5 min or 10 min

half hedge
#

10 minutes is fine

tardy finch
#

Challenge issued, let's see if I did it right

half hedge
#

no pop up for me

delicate peak
#

just saw asiano's real name on chesscom

#

what a main character name

tardy finch
#

you mean asiano550?

delicate peak
#

no the real name

tardy finch
#

eh?

delicate peak
#

the name you carry IRL is public on your chesscom profile

tardy finch
#

Did this piece of shit site just fucking dox me peepoMad

delicate peak
#

I guess

woeful wolf
#

Where spectator link MONKE

delicate peak
#

its default

half hedge
#

i dont think anyone else here has you as a friend

tardy finch
#

Doesn't matter either way, it's one of the most common names here

#

Pretty much the equivalent of John Smith

delicate peak
#

more like John Johnson

tardy finch
#

Still rather weird

half hedge
#
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delicate peak
half hedge
#

@tardy finch

woeful wolf
#

Ty Azor

tardy finch
#

d4 player, it's just like Pert

delicate peak
#

new female player = queen's pawn opening

#

it's simple

half hedge
#

Gonna cancel your ass nyaissasmack

tardy finch
#

Be careful. I'm setting up a trap here.

woeful wolf
tardy finch
#

Okay Storm, going full monke

woeful wolf
#

I see it ocming

#

oh no

#

Shes gonna be really upset if she doesnt see it.

tardy finch
#

Well ... I don't expect her to see it

woeful wolf
#

If shes watching chat shes looking frantically

tardy finch
#

Most likely.

#

Then again, I did say I was setting up a trap. A shitty one, yet a trap.

tardy finch
#

One can say this game is equal now, isn't it?

#

It's up to Pudgy to prove it's not.

woeful wolf
#

I am waiting for pudgy to show her true power level here

tardy finch
#

Actually that knight move was brilliant compared to earlier

#

I'll take that back.

grand idol
#

give me like an hour and ill be around

tardy finch
#

@half hedge Do not move your bishop to a place where it can be easily stopped by a pawn unless you are 100% sure that bishop will achieve something.

half hedge
#

its lost to time anyway

tardy finch
#

Is that why you are blundering?

#

Your chance to win in chat. Let us see.

#

5 minutes.

woeful wolf
#

You can win

tardy finch
#

I don't know if spectators can see chat but I issued a puzzle challenge. If she solves it, she wins.

#

@half hedge Even if you don't solve it, I'll keep on playing but with little to no time.

#

||it was a trick question, you can't move it there because my bishop would be blocking||

#

You still solved it correctly.

half hedge
#

I was assuming you meant if i took the bishop

#

but

#

i just realised i wouldn't be able to

#

because i'd be in check

woeful wolf
#

I looked away but

tardy finch
#

The point I am making here is simple - you now ON YOUR OWN learned why moving the bishop there was wrong - you saw the sequence that would be following.

woeful wolf
tardy finch
#

So in the future, you would hopefully not do that again.

half hedge
#

god, i need to update that picture KannaKms

#

it took me a while 🥲

tardy finch
#

It's rapid so it's okay to take your time. As a matter of fact, it is best you do.

#

You don't queue for a 10 min game to only use 30s of it

#

FUCK

#

"How to castle in four moves instead of one: Definitive guide"

half hedge
#

😄

#

i just realised

#

i missed a check

tardy finch
#

It would have helped me develop

half hedge
#

I dont know what im doing now

#

ngl

#

oh

#

🍴

tardy finch
#

One thing that is usually taught to beginners (although in my opinion not entirely correct) is "do not move your queen during the opening".

So my question is - what was the purpose of moving yours? The only thing achieved was letting me attack it which wasn't pleasant.

#

You might want to move to lichess because there I can extend your time. Just because obviously time was troubling you at the end.

half hedge
#

Time and chess hates me KannaKms

tardy finch
#

5+3 just because I'm used to playing that but I'll extend regularly so don't worry.

half hedge
#

wait what

tardy finch
#

en passant

#

I was wondering when I would get to show you that

half hedge
#

??

#

i moved to b5

tardy finch
#

If I have a pawn covering your single pawn move and you instead move it twice, I can capture it. BUT ONLY during that move.

half hedge
#

thats fucking bullshit

tardy finch
#

It is 😄

half hedge
#

?????????

#

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

tardy finch
#

That is a natural reaction

#

Though I'm crying

half hedge
#

smh toxic

#

WAIT

#

NOP

tardy finch
#

Please take that back

#

Much better

#

please see it

#

YES

#

GM PUDGY

half hedge
#

YEEE BOI

tardy finch
#

Now just follow it up

#

One more move is required

half hedge
#

im confused as to whether its pushing g pawn forward or

#

ok

#

it was the pawn move

tardy finch
#

If you push the g pawn, f is no longer pinned so it's a free knight

#

Aight, back to regular play

half hedge
#

i was like yeah but then you just take G on next turn

#

and my pawn is in the same place

#

so its no longer protecting my king

tardy finch
#

2 pawns for a knight tho

half hedge
#

so its open for check again ?

#

wait lemme see it

#

wait but

tardy finch
#

Not with that piece.

half hedge
#

why would you not just take g pawn ?

#

OOOH

tardy finch
#

Now you see why.

half hedge
#

OKAY

tardy finch
#

I move to h5 not to attack you but to have an escape

half hedge
#

I forgot about my rook

tardy finch
#

Ye, noticed.

#

Let's keep playing from here.

half hedge
tardy finch
#

Looking back at this game, what would you say caused you most trouble?

#

This isn't a one-right-answer question but rather a feelycraft one. What's your personal opinion here?

half hedge
#

my Defence probably

tardy finch
#

And why was it hard to defend?

#

Realistically, I would only attack you with one piece at a time. What was the thing that made it hard to defend?

half hedge
#

Idk probably me feeling overwhelmed quickly

tardy finch
#

I'll give you this - you were doing perfectly fine and holding equal ground for a while.

#

Allowing my knight to infiltrate was what made your position bad - because you simply had no answer to it.
Additional point is moving your king forward for absolutely no reason. If you are in the back, I have less ways to attack you. Doesn't necessarily mean you are safer but generally means I have fewer threatening moves.

#

btw after playing the knight sequence correctly the position was favoring you according to analysis. Not an overwhelming victory but after I gave up the d pawn, it's -4. That is the equivalent to a bishop and a pawn.

half hedge
#

Oh Pog

#

yeah just letting you in was where it all went wrong KannaKms

tardy finch
#

Yup.

#

There are two things that you can keep in mind to evaluate your position at any time even though you are not a computer:

  1. Material advantage
  2. King safety

While you aren't going to be 100% accurate with your predictions, it is easy to assume that if you aren't down in material and your king is safely tucked away somewhere, you are likely winning. At worst, it's a draw.

woeful wolf
#

Pudgy I Think the puzzles would help you a ton

#

from discussion here

#

in terms of trying to help you expand chess thinking

half hedge
#

Yeah I probably should

woeful wolf
#

I mean I think the struggle of new player is thinking far enough ahead generally

#

and I think puzzles help

tardy finch
#

From what I've seen that is correct. But currently the biggest issue is thinking "what would my opponent do on the next move?".

woeful wolf
#

I think that thinking ahead is the important skill

#

once you think ahead you can transition into "why would they have made this move/what is thier goal?"

#

or more correctly "If i made this move what would my goal be?"

tardy finch
#

It most certainly is. And talking from experience, thinking ahead is the actual thing that makes playing seriously exhauisting*.

woeful wolf
#

def

#

RN everything is exhausting for me

#

part of why i havent been playing

tardy finch
#

To put it into perspective, playing random unranked games, I get to do whatever I feel like in whatever way I think might be okay. No need to give a fuck. Then you go into a serious game or a tournament and you try to think 5-6 moves ahead like if you are some robot and not only does it chip away at your sanity but you also get analysis wrong at times which ends up in you making mistakes+getting annoyed at getting it wrong. Only to have frustration build up and evolve into negative emotions.

#

If everything is exhausting, there might be an underlying issue as to why. Hobbies, for example, should never feel exhausting.

tardy finch
#

I certainly hope you are a lab worker and all that is just profession related coronaS

woeful wolf
#

Naw

#

That was Friday

tardy finch
woeful wolf
#

plus xrays

#

Prob auto immune

#

is what the doc is telling me

tardy finch
#

That doesn't sound comforting in the slightest.

woeful wolf
#

/shrug

#

rather know what it is so I can be done with being exhausted

#

and get back to enjoying things

grand idol
#

@tardy finch LETS DO IT

tardy finch
#

ye ok

#

quick bio before you decide between chess.com and lichess

grand idol
#

lets do lichess I forgot my chesscom pw LOL

#

ya i gotta brb bio too

#

you good with 10 min game?

#

or faster?

tardy finch
#

Your pick

grand idol
#

lets do it baby

#

im bad tho just fyi

#

@tardy finch

tardy finch
#

I was never good

#

Anything particular you want to play or just get this on the road?

grand idol
#

nah idc

left glade
#

asiano is so nice

tardy finch
#

Well that was weird

grand idol
#

damn bro

#

i got owned

tardy finch
#

You walked into it

grand idol
#

after the castle is there something i could have done

tardy finch
#

Push h pawn once before castling so I can't get in

#

I am so used to people capturing that pawn that you immediately threw me out of theory

#

😓

grand idol
#

theory omegalul

tardy finch
#

It's the one thing I rely on right now

#

Spoilers: I'm on angry juice again

left glade
grand idol
#

ahhh

#

fuck me

#

cheers man

tardy finch
#

I THOUGHT YOU WOULDN'T TAKE IT AAAHHH

grand idol
#

gg

#

haha

#

one more?

tardy finch
#

ye sure

#

Just give me a few minutes

#

It's better I sober up

#

/pull 5

#

Got the happy juice peepoHappy

#

I spilled the happy juice because it tastes like shit clayp

#

I will honestly need Pert to analyze which capture is better in this position because I'm not able to differentiate

grand idol
#

GG

tardy finch
#

GG

grand idol
#

i have clinched my spot as worst TSL player

tardy finch
#

This was a good one

#

Worst?

#

You held the game pretty well

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To be fair, I am certain that any passive move here from me would have ended in a loss

grand idol
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OMG

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BRO

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I CHIKENED OUT ON THAT ATTACK

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I SHOULD HAVE JUST DONE IT

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24

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FUCK

tardy finch
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You mean the knight joining the rook and queen?

grand idol
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sacing my rook

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I thought about it but bitched out

tardy finch
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Yeah, saw it now

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I was pretty scared of that during the game

grand idol
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didnt see rook to d2

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thats what you have to see to make it work

tardy finch
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Though, looking here, I am not really sure why I didn't just push

grand idol
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I saw the check and then u go to the corner and was like fuck what do i do now

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aaaaah

tardy finch
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If I went in the corner, you still have Rd2

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Simply because earlier I decided to defend my knight and pawn instead of pushing the pawn like a boss

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In which case Rd2 is met with queen promotion

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You really should have punished that mistake there but you doubted yourself. Never do that. You are most definitely better than you think.

grand idol
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d'aawwww

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you're such a sweetheart peepoHeart

tardy finch
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Damn, going into analysis, the eval bar just had a stroke around those moves

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At the very least, I now have some relatively bad experience with the english opening so I know from experience to never play it again

dusky hull
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I am alive

cyan elm
half hedge
dusky hull
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Slept for something like 22 hours

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What I miss

delicate peak
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hikaru vs magnus blitz battle yesterday

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grinding blitz rating independently on chess.com trying to get r1

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magnus is currently playing a long match against Vidit to gain rating

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he has to beat him 4:1 to even gain rating