F1 Manager

[pine sable]

For F1 Manager Talk

[wise flint]

Ferrari are farming in my save so far

[eager thunder]

OI

made it to p11 and p16

my gearbox is poof

[wise flint]

Had to change mine

cause albono fucking binned it

into a wall

now gotta change my first engine

[eager thunder]

lmao

[wise flint]

I stg my drivers run wide like its a competition

[eager thunder]

like i love mick

but I wanna replace ihm

tbh

[wise flint]

Three races in a row spins/wide runnings

Williams is also giga hard mode

I CANNOT GET POINTS

IM SCREAMING

https://imgur.com/a/Qk64O4W

[eager thunder]

@wise flint opinion?

[wise flint]

Idk

Still figuring that out myself

[eager thunder]

XD

[wise flint]

aslong as numbers go up im happy

[eager thunder]

Im trying tog et good high speed and good corner speed

[versed mantle]

ive changed course

im not going to fire stroll

I am going to make him a world champion

@wise flint @eager thunder you'll have a better time swapping the units to "show ranking" compared to rest of grid

rather than the numbers

as the numbers are arbitrary and cannot be compared to anything

[eager thunder]

ohh I seee

thanks

I kinda wanna fire Mick

but at same time not

idk yet

[wise flint]

Will have to check where to that is as it sounds better when comparing

[versed mantle]

it's a keybind, "E" by default iirc

I tried to just sort of minmax across all the areas, well-rounded stuff

but wont have anything until spain

maybe I should've gone for multiple smaller upgrades

rather than a huge package

then again

big spain package is what they do IRL

[wise flint]

That's it! ty 🙂

Looks better when comparing a million times

[versed mantle]

way better to compare with

are you aston?

cuz those numbers look astony

[wise flint]

Williams

Theyre basically the same team by my feeling

Giovinazzi and stroll are constantly racing each other and albon and vettel in my save

constant swapping of places due to DRS cause were the same speed

Albons car (with new wing) vs vettels car

[eager thunder]

I EDONT KNOWWWW MAAAN

mick

[versed mantle]

imola time

DOUBLE Q2 FOR ASTON

[eager thunder]

hmmm idk

might be to tight

[wise flint]

Let’s us know if it rains for you

Both me and dabbi had rain in the first few laps

[versed mantle]

It did in practice but not race

[wise flint]

Okay that’s good was worried the races were scripted 😭

[versed mantle]

was a mess to work out setup etc when runs had to stop

cuz of weather

[wise flint]

Anyone here had trouble with the track rubber UI element not working?

Its always LOW on my game

[tight sinew]

actually I've noticed that too

finally got my first decent Quali

Daniel making it to p3 is basically a pole

[wise flint]

@eager thunder

😭

[eager thunder]

XD

[wise flint]

back to back rain races

[tight sinew]

I had the same weather but with Friday and Sunday swapped

[gritty wyvern]

a spray of rain

[rugged sparrow]

I had that on bahrain but always fixed on session load

[gritty wyvern]

he went to inters at like 6 minutes left

[rugged sparrow]

it was the pre session stuff randomly saying low compared

[gritty wyvern]

@wise flint my imola was dry

no rain at all

[wise flint]

Good to know there 100% isnt any scripting then

just saw so many videos of people with the same weather

and then dabbi had it so got worried

[gritty wyvern]

a spray of rain during qauli

[wise flint]

Also debating on relpacing this engine atm, it's at 41% wear with a yellow warning but has 0 affect on the stats atm

[gritty wyvern]

[neon belfry]

@wise flint yolo

[tight sinew]

got 5th and 7th in Spain was very pog

Monaco now tho

[wise flint]

woodys

just send out lando

and then danny just before everyone else

set him to low pace, so low tyres,fuel and ers

[tight sinew]

genius

[wise flint]

then tick hold everyone up

[tight sinew]

I love how ur mind works

[wise flint]

Dannys off anyways

might aswell use him as a human meat shield

[tight sinew]

oi he got 7th in Spain

thats not bad

I don't think I resign him once his contract expires tho

[wise flint]

Williams made a car that drivers can feel confident in????

What year is this

[gritty wyvern]

its because

they have the standard wheel

not hte weird one

[wise flint]

[gritty wyvern]

[wise flint]

Honestly I noticed that

Albono and giovnazzi can actually see their delta now

[tight sinew]

also worked out that the track heavily influences what set up they want, for Monaco in fp1 their feedback was min straights and max corners

[wise flint]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-say-frowning-coffee-gif-14597430

[gritty wyvern]

tell that to max v checo

legit opposites

[wise flint]

Who wouldve thought drivers want different setups for different tracks woodsy

[tight sinew]

ngl kinda assumed it was random given how different they were every other race

[wise flint]

As long as you're having fun that's all that matter sweetie

[gritty wyvern]

that last 10% adjustments

its so aids

but i like it

[wise flint]

Feel like im actually doing an engineering degree

[tight sinew]

I got 100% for Lando in back to back races

farka you

[wise flint]

[gritty wyvern]

it depends more on the race engineer

btw

[wise flint]

Yeah im working with a part time baker here

[tight sinew]

yeah I'm scouting replacement staff atm

[wise flint]

you've atleast got a qualified race engineer

[gritty wyvern]

[tight sinew]

found a pre pog free agent for one of the key staff positions

[gritty wyvern]

checo's engineer is like

98 rated for set up

but

[wise flint]

[gritty wyvern]

yet maxs is 76

[wise flint]

Remember to not replace you actual race engineer @tight sinew

You'll lose all the experience they gained together

[tight sinew]

yeah

that seems aids

[gritty wyvern]

Give ricc bono

[tight sinew]

getting bono would be so pog

[wise flint]

Get binotto

[gritty wyvern]

nah

steiner

[tight sinew]

did u guys see the achievement called El Plan

[gritty wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/guenther-steiner-steiner-guenther-haas-f1-gif-25743005

[tight sinew]

@wise flint I scouted Piastri and he's not interested in signing with us

[gritty wyvern]

Max just

did the same spin he had

in Spain

games scripted

[gritty wyvern]

FUCK

monaco in the wet

[tight sinew]

Gonna be our tester for the red flag system

[gritty wyvern]

found my first bug

monaco track view doesnt line up

[tight sinew]

nooo

[neon belfry]

god damn

i was like im not going to run a circus now that sBinotto is in the bin

then australia had a fuckton of rain

and cue the circus music

[gritty wyvern]

[neon belfry]

literally put inters instead of wets

[tight sinew]

[neon belfry]

then had to switch to wets again

tho i had an absolutely perfect double stack

which was nice

[gritty wyvern]

the ai ferrari put inters on when the rain lasted 2 laps

so i think its clownrarri

[tight sinew]

Anyone had a red flag yet?

[gritty wyvern]

i think azor said he had one

im just start fp3 on monaco

[tight sinew]

I’m up to fp2 Monaco

[gritty wyvern]

Do you have rain?

Forecast for the race

[tight sinew]

Nah

Just sun and a bit of cloud

[gritty wyvern]

Ok so the first year isn't scripted off irl

[neon belfry]

i mean

there wasnt crazy raining in australia either

and i basically had an aussie lake gp

[gritty wyvern]

No fucking shot

https://tenor.com/view/lance-stroll-gif-21687097

oopa

games wrong

oldest lap time is 2nd

[wise flint]

[gritty wyvern]

[tight sinew]

Albon pogging out?

[tight sinew]

@gritty wyvern I was wrong I also have a wet Monaco

[gritty wyvern]

not as bad as min

i had light

[tight sinew]

gonna be a fiesta

at least I did this

[gritty wyvern]

i did quali on

untested

Ferrari ai

is just as clown

ad real ferrari

@tight sinew playing as redbull is just give max good car

then babysit perez the whole race

[tight sinew]

feel like I'm gonna ape this race

its starting dry but gonna rain

[gritty wyvern]

I hope they add scenarios

[gritty wyvern]

@tight sinew

untested

starting the race

[tight sinew]

balls deep

yeah Monaco sleeper asf just like irl

on the bright side

[gritty wyvern]

The prophecy

[tight sinew]

have him as reserve driver now but upgrading my facilities to get him mad xp

[gritty wyvern]

one is me

one is ferrari

🤡

[tight sinew]

[gritty wyvern]

ty for making a 8 second gap

34

cant wait to do a backmarker play through

[tight sinew]

was gonna find a new race engineer to pair with Oscar

but all the upgrades don't want me lmao

[gritty wyvern]

[versed mantle]

Imagine being a rookie and your first Monaco is fucking wet

[gritty wyvern]

Might aswell quit

im still baffled

in fp1

i got strolled

legit strolled

[tight sinew]

Lmao

[gritty wyvern]

same corner same crash

[tight sinew]

I’m surprised I had a wet Monaco and all 20 drivers finished

[gritty wyvern]

Same

[tight sinew]

I’m keen tho get Oscar mad xp every race from fp1 and then once Danny’s contract expires plug him in

[gritty wyvern]

cant even think about new drivers

unless i wanna drop 20+mil on contract shit

[versed mantle]

Cos ring farm has been fucking with my f1 manager plans

[gritty wyvern]

Azor

its nerf

ed

but idk if that did enough

My canadian gp is monka

[tight sinew]

Any wall of champions enjoyers yet

[versed mantle]

Still probably worth post nerf tho

[gritty wyvern]

No but gasly punted sainz into a wall

[tight sinew]

Did they actually proper crash and retire

Cuz all mine just bounce off it like nothing happened

[gritty wyvern]

gasly got a 5 second

sainz died

psure

200mph into a wall

hop someone makes a better crash mod

[tight sinew]

Yeah 100%

Seems a bit shit atm

[wise flint]

Yeah dude held Norris and Danny for 10 laps at Miami 😂

[tight sinew]

What a gamer

[tight sinew]

I fucked off my shit reserve driver for Oscar thinking I’ll slot him in once Danny contract expires his current contract bit of an oof to cancel

[rugged sparrow]

yeah i dont know why my pc doesnt like the game

but i apparently just cant play it cos it always just dies midrace

[neon belfry]

drivers?

or maybe it has a ferrari logo on the side

so it just randomly blows up or spins out

[eager thunder]

what happens IF u dont meet the board goal at 2024 season

[wise flint]

How tf should we know 😭😂😂😂

We haven’t even finished season 1 dabbi

[eager thunder]

IM STILL ON POE COPIUM

[rugged sparrow]

You get sacked. Since you haas, you stand in the doorway as gene let's you know its over, and then Gunther arrives and focksmashes the door in you face.

[eager thunder]

i need to hit p6 before 2024

[wise flint]

That’s not that bad tbh

[tight sinew]

I need to win constructors by 2026

[eager thunder]

this one is so hard to get down right

xD

[tight sinew]

@eager thunder its easy wdym

[eager thunder]

im bad at ti

[wise flint]

You should finish the confidence check before changing things btw

Just send them back out for like 5 laps and pull them in once it’s done

[eager thunder]

AYOOO

[tight sinew]

Oscar putting in work

[versed mantle]

Any clue how long it actually takes to get 5 points of feedback on setup? Would like to set my run plan to exactly the correct amount of laps

To make the most adjustments possible

Can't tell if it's lap based or time based

[tight sinew]

haven't been able to work it out either

signed Oscar as my reserve so using him for p1 in replace of Ricciardo pre cool that parts knowledge and set up transfers over but he does lose out on track acclimatisation which sucks a bit

wanna get Piastri as much xp before next season tho

[wise flint]

Random for me, giovinazzi gets it in like 13 laps whereas albon take 17 maybe stat related?

[versed mantle]

Hm ye seems like it would be

I'd also like to know how much setup confidence translates to lap time/mistake reduction

[wise flint]

Yeah it’s not very clear but they get MASSIVE stat boosts

For filling the overall practice confidence

That like 0/15 area

But atm I can’t really tell, drs and ers seem insanely strong tbh

Like Albon was holding up verstappen for 10 laps with tactical ers usage

[versed mantle]

Don't you just depleto the battery on like 2 laps though

[tight sinew]

I know theres a feedback stat that the race engineers have

could be that

[wise flint]

Yeah but I manually turn defend on and off at the actual overtake zones

So e.g. at Miami on the back straight before the penultimate turn

So I get more out of it

[eager thunder]

i had both kevin do a lock up at p10

and then go to last

then mick wnet p10

and locked up

[wise flint]

I’ve had a lockup every race

[eager thunder]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

same

[wise flint]

And albon has crashed twice

[eager thunder]

DANNY

JUST CREASHED ME

???

[tight sinew]

Leclerc got a grid pen

could be big results here

also had like 3 VSC in fp at Baku lmao

[eager thunder]

what a chaotic race

kevin locked up twice at p10

[versed mantle]

Any reason not to conserve tyres during practice

[eager thunder]

gonna have to repair micks car now

[wise flint]

Tbf I just leave them in normal and then do one practice quali run, with balls to the walls fuel, tyre and ers usage

[eager thunder]

@wise flint

i feel bad for doing this

[wise flint]

Then don’t do it

You’re only in the first season

[eager thunder]

KEK

[eager thunder]

Idk why im not getting like a full "dis is good bro"

[versed mantle]

STRATEGISTS

[wise flint]

Are you letting them get 5/5

[versed mantle]

I am double in the points in miami with astons

https://puu.sh/JilPK/e83678c598.jpg

I am on hards that can last the rest of the race

safety car just dropped

DO I PIT

[wise flint]

No reason too really

Just lose positions for tyres that do the same job imo

[eager thunder]

I normaly do 15 laps

and let them come in after that

[wise flint]

You need to let the 0/5 fill up

So if it isn’t after 15 laps

Send them out again

For a few laps till it fills and then bring them in

[eager thunder]

oh with same setup

[wise flint]

Yeah you don’t have to change anything

Once the 0/5 turns 5/5 they will tell you how well overall they liked the setup otherwise you only get snippets

And won’t know confidence %

[eager thunder]

i seee

[tight sinew]

fuck

Canada with heavy rain on race day

[eager thunder]

kevin pogging out

[wise flint]

I’ve learned if it’s heavy rain that the ai pits for inters first and you can cheese them by just putting straight to west

[eager thunder]

so when rain comes and they say "wet" is that call for Its wet tyres maybe and not int cause idk when to pcik each

[tight sinew]

yeah I should've done that in Monaco

[wise flint]

1-4mm is inters

4+mm is west

Shows water level on right hand side

[wise flint]

It’s how I got albono two points

Sadly Aston did the same thing tho legit the only ai team to do it

So could’ve got more otherwise

[versed mantle]

FUCKING

WENT FROM 9TH

to 12TH

IN LAST LAP

CUZ EVERYONE PITTED FOR SOFTS

AND FUCKED ME

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

still

p12 good for aston

np

we're getting our new floor

for next race

and its fucking loaded

[eager thunder]

im trying to understand this graph so at lap 40 heavy rain?

[tight sinew]

yeah the number on the top is chance of rain

also I just got both cars optimal set up before p3

this is pog

I think I just change the run plan to have them do laps all of p3 for more track xp

can confirm worked perfectly

[wise flint]

Heavy rain at lap 28ish tbh but yeah give or take

[wise flint]

Mclaren engineer diff

[tight sinew]

and did sweet fuck all for me in quali

they made an absolute shitbox that I'm tryna salvage lol

[versed mantle]

got my first q2 with vettel

[tight sinew]

oh fuck

I got my first red flag

and it hasn't even started raining yet

[tight sinew]

lessgo!

this race got spicy

[versed mantle]

P11 and P12 on pure merit!

from P15 and P16 on grid

upgrades working nicely

points soon

oh god its fucking monaco

if I keep up these finishes I might hit my hot streak bonus

And my car is pogchamp in slow corners

DOUBLE POINTS MONACO!?

[tight sinew]

FUCK YEAH

[versed mantle]

WOOOOOOOOT

[wise flint]

Is this gaslighting?

[gritty wyvern]

@versed mantle the feedback on setups is based on race engineer

It's one of their stats

You can develop with points

[tight sinew]

ok there was a red flag like 2 or 3 VSC and rain

[versed mantle]

stroll just got a 0 second time penalty.. in FP1

[tight sinew]

[versed mantle]

hey losers that say FP1 times dont matter

suck my dick

hard tyres too

gonna win this one

feeling it

[tight sinew]

surely

I hate how u can't see how big the pen is

[versed mantle]

btw as far as I can tell there's no advantage to running anything but conserve on everything in free practice

means you get through with less tyre use, more flexibility for race or if you get further in qualifying than expected

not a problem for you top team plebs ig..

I do all of fp1 on hard, fp2 on medium, fp3 on soft. one tyre each.

if I have a bit of time left over I full send aggressive/push/deploy

crashtian vettel man

AI must think im hardcore sandbagging to always be p19 and p20 in practice because I conserve on everything

im like mercedes circa 2014-2020

ASDIJDAIODSA

BOTH CARS CRASHED IN FP3

THEY ARE NOT EVEN PUSHING

3 place grid penalty for stroll

gonna try and go long on hards in monaco and do the ole safety car

maybe crash stroll on purpose to trigger one, letting vettel pit at a great time and collect some points

can't believe no one has thought of that before lmao

[tight sinew]

Oscar op

[tight sinew]

don't you lose 2 dry per session anyway tho

[versed mantle]

no, like I said

1 tyre per session

and its not even close

[versed mantle]

could prolly do light instead of conserve and get away with it

[tight sinew]

nah cuz of this

[versed mantle]

I see what you mean now ye

[tight sinew]

whenever I did 1 tyre per practice session they just yoink a set of my softs

[versed mantle]

but I dont see any disadvantage

realistically little overtaking in monaco

[tight sinew]

true

all about quali

[wise flint]

You guys still do automatic quali

or do you manually do it

[versed mantle]

I do manual very sesh

my safety car gamble spectacularly failed

how the fuck

can there be no safety car

in monaco

the fact that I got fastest lap

says it all

LMAO

[tight sinew]

I do everything except car settings in Quali

[strong hatch]

look at max'smug face

[tight sinew]

POV you're ferrari

[versed mantle]

you dont mess with setups at all? :o

[tight sinew]

no that was just a meme photo

I did it after

[eager thunder]

can we plike plan pitstop ahjead of time in a race

lets say its gonna rain in 2 min that u can plan a pitstop ?

like que ?

[tight sinew]

Don’t think so

Except you can delay it by 1 lap with an option

So technically can keep ticking that box every lap

[eager thunder]

my biggest like learning cruve to get thru is knowing when to go Wet/Int and when to back to soft

[tight sinew]

Depends on how much rain you have

Like if it’s heavy rain and you think it’ll go over 4mm go straight to wets and then swap back to dry tyres if it dips below 1mm

Same with inters if it’s not heavy enough to make it a wet track

[wise flint]

Yeah whatever you do, DONT try to game the system on swapping back to dry

I tried to swap at 1.2mm

I lost so much time

its insane

[eager thunder]

I tried swapping to int to early

and lost like 2 sec

so like if track water would be below 1mm?

[gritty wyvern]

If you go to the top right there is a wet to dry graph

Inters are for 1 to 4 and wets are 4+

[eager thunder]

this one?

[gritty wyvern]

No no

Very top right

During the race

[tight sinew]

Same with the AI on inters as soon as track hit 4mm

[eager thunder]

?

[tight sinew]

Like my drivers just went giga speed

[gritty wyvern]

To the right of the flag

At the top

Had a 7 to 8mm rain spike in my Canadian gp

[tight sinew]

My Canadian gp was wild

[gritty wyvern]

Still haven't seen a redflag

[eager thunder]

this one u mean or am I rarted?

[gritty wyvern]

Yeah

Blue is rain

[tight sinew]

Canada gave me my first it was cool

[eager thunder]

so I wanna go on soft at like 71-72?

[gritty wyvern]

Eh

[eager thunder]

cause these int was put on during lap 6

[gritty wyvern]

I wouldn't

But idk

[eager thunder]

aight ty

[eager thunder]

@tight sinew kevin is binning into the wall and locking up way to much

[tight sinew]

I had Lando throw away points cuz he locked up and got a penalty

Danny got 5th tho

[gritty wyvern]

Silverstone time

[eager thunder]

ayo what the fuck???

Piaastri zoomin

thank you kev...

[wise flint]

And to think you fire mick

[eager thunder]

So I have a problem XD

i dont HAVE ENOUGH PARTS

[gritty wyvern]

make more

[eager thunder]

I am but its race weekend

idk what to do xD

[gritty wyvern]

time to not run 1 car

[eager thunder]

im stuck

FUCKING PIASTRI

[tight sinew]

Dabbi do you not manufacture spare parts

[eager thunder]

I do

but

[wise flint]

You can emergency manufacture tho

[tight sinew]

I think he’s stuck on the screen tho

Maybe from car builds you can

[eager thunder]

yea i noticed

i had to load the autosave so its ok

[eager thunder]

NOTHING ENW HERE

[neon belfry]

stop posting these nightmare pictures

cursed screenshots

mofos keep driving 1-2 until one of them bins it

and i have to tell the board of directors why they are cunts and max wants 25mil to juz consider leaving the team

[eager thunder]

XD

[neon belfry]

i hate this game

my playthrough literally is against me all day long

[eager thunder]

XD

i had kevin lock up everything he is in for points

@neon belfry better?

[neon belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/10-bellissimo-wonderful-perfect-lovely-gif-13775669

[eager thunder]

AYOO WTF

PIASTRI IN Q3

[gritty wyvern]

Once i figure out the range of movement needed for each rank of setups

i think ill be gaming

[tight sinew]

Someone got fired in season 2

[gritty wyvern]

excuse me

fuck off

these shunts man

the car that gets hit gets pinged off

and the other one is no dmg

[wise flint]

This already exists LMFAO

https://f1-manager-calc.vercel.app/

[versed mantle]

Love it

[eager thunder]

@gritty wyverni had piastri pull fastest lap yd

[gentle charm]

Race 4 Qualifying.. I found a bug

Do not, put a new gearbox into the car during a session (even at the end of one), otherwise it'll duplicate the replaced one's damage values.

Gonna have to buy a few gear boxes this season

[wise flint]

I’d be interested to see how that occurred because I’ve done exactly that and had no issues

Did it during fp3 as I used a dodgy gearbox for practice and then replaced it at the end

[strong hatch]

after how well Alonso drove today, he won't disappoint me in F1 manager surely

GUYS

HE DID IT

[neon belfry]

oh in my run so far he doesnt dissapoint thank fuck

even when i did a typical ferrari strategy he still managed 3rd so i'm good with him

sainz on the other hand

[strong hatch]

Ocon needs to be proving himself more here

smh

This game only gives me Plan A- Plan E how tf are you meant to play as Ferrari

[neon belfry]

i just always engage plan Y - YOLO

[strong hatch]

Both drivers in points

[gentle charm]

Can we do something huge?

meh 7th and 10th

[gentle charm]

we're on form

[tight sinew]

Ricciardo is doing well for me but is still dogshit at Quali

[gentle charm]

Lando is chasing the Ferraris

that boy is onn fire

OMG

how!?

Miami

[tight sinew]

Rain op

Got me a 1-2 in Canada

[versed mantle]

about to fetch points in baku

run out of fuel like

on the straight before the finish line

[gritty wyvern]

doing my own spa

ty engine pen

lap 5 safety car

[versed mantle]

stroll keeps crashing

in every session

i hate him so much

[gritty wyvern]

is the stroll wdc dream not happening

[versed mantle]

gna be vettel at this rate

anyone got a deeper understanding of deploy vs balanced ERS usage

[gritty wyvern]

other than the little thing the game says not really

Monza time

looks like overtake is using it mainly when attacking a car infront opposite for defnd

[versed mantle]

but deploy

and he crashes again in FP3

as well as FP1

as well as the race before

as well as a practice session last time

at least vettel is pumping

got a perfect setup for him early and 100% track acclimatisation

vettels starts are something else man

he's so good

AND FOR THE BILLIONTH FUCKIGN TIME IN A ROW

I LOSE P10 ON THE LAST LAP

I CANT FUCKING DEAL ANYMORE

[strong hatch]

I got both my Alpines in top 10 each race

[versed mantle]

gonna try and get Bottas/Norris/Ocon, 2 of those 3

for next season

[versed mantle]

lets

fucking

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://puu.sh/JiFe1/5e454a88ad.png

P5 and P10 in a wet silverstone

had to fucking

NAIL

the dry to intermediate and intermediate to dry timings

double stacked with IMMACULATE timing on the 2nd stop

[tight sinew]

[versed mantle]

from p11 on the grid too

god i love vettel

[tight sinew]

Yeah driver stats are super noticeable

[versed mantle]

hm

to research for next season

or develop for this season

[wise flint]

Research for sure

[versed mantle]

really? its only minor changes in my save

no major

for some reason

im no longer able to change the stat view to "compare to grid"

rather than raw numbers

lke I suggested to you guys the other day

the keybind is gone..

ah only works in design not research

[wise flint]

Research isn’t limited to just reg changes and stuff I’ve seen

In the official game disc people have taken Williams to title challengers through one season of research but there is some cheese with research I’ve seen

[versed mantle]

damn that's something

I will go all in on underfloor research this ATR perio

and see

austria time

coming off a high

best part is

my car is not even suited to silverstone

hungary coming up which will be mega

[versed mantle]

man vettel is being uppity with his setup in austria

dude is it possible to just get fucked by the drivers setup needs

im in FP3 and he still thinks everything is bad AND I AM EVEN USING CALCULATOR

[gritty wyvern]

Checo

fucking spinning lap 1 of singapor

I noticed it earlier with it too

[versed mantle]

majorly fucked up my practices, left with vettel at like 40% confidence

[gritty wyvern]

one of the stats just was always bad

[versed mantle]

sigh. not gonna be a strong austria i fear

[gritty wyvern]

wtf is this race man

gasly 4 laps down

wait

he is going around without a front wing

[versed mantle]

another race

another going from p7 to p11 on last lap with vettel

just look at this man

[gritty wyvern]

do you know if there is a way to see that after the race is over

[versed mantle]

ye "data view" in results

thats how I got that

[gritty wyvern]

i mean like after the weekend in the main hub

[versed mantle]

ah

not sure

bro

these drivers

in negotiations

he's literally happy with everything

and neutral on ONE point

and he declines teh contract

???

like

he wants a fucking bonus

for non points paying positions

did he hit his head or something

[gritty wyvern]

if it was stroll

yes

[gentle charm]

Yes. You regen 2MJ per lap and consume 2MJ per lap, use it at 75% battery so you don't cap your focus battery.
With Deploy, you're using 4MJ per lap and regenerating 2MJ, so your battery depletes 50% per lap.

[versed mantle]

I mean I get the math there

but depleting the battery and going faster seems faster than not depleting it and going slower

[gentle charm]

well no

[versed mantle]

but I find that hard to analyze

[gentle charm]

not long term as you need to harvest it back up and spend 4 laps doing that

[versed mantle]

so I was wondering if someone had crunched the numbers there

[gentle charm]

save your battery for overtake and to build gap (that's when you deploy/overtake)

See if you're stuck behind someone and pit into clean air

deploy like warmongering soldiers.

on your outlap

for undercut

[versed mantle]

all this is what the game already tells you, I am looking for hard numbers/theorycrafting beyond what the game literally just says

[gentle charm]

It is that simple.

[versed mantle]

you've no idea if it is that simple and are not qualified to answer my question. move along

[gentle charm]

maintain high battery until you need it.

[versed mantle]

(appreciate you trying to help though)

[gentle charm]

Or you're overanalysing it's use and overestimating how complex F1 2022 manager is

It's 90% arcade and 10% sim at this current iteration.

[versed mantle]

rather overestimate and overanalyze than the other way around

got me pretty far in other games I play
people who underestimate the complexity of things usually fall behind

[gritty wyvern]

I notice that deploy uses most of not all of the energy early on into the lap but idk the others because I usually just slap it on neutral unless I need to overtake or defend

[gentle charm]

F1 racing presents far too many niche situations to find a way to effectively min-max ERS.

[versed mantle]

lately I've been sending deploy/overtake on the starts or if I am within DRS, or if I think I have a reasonable chance at catching up to someone's DRS for an overtake

and then defend is used as an "oh my god please dont take my points away on the last lap"

it has failed 5 times now.

so perhaps work to do on that defend usage..

[gritty wyvern]

Like in Monza the only place you recharge is t1

[versed mantle]

from the start I will usually swap deploy/overtake off when the battery is fully depleted and the deployment is maxed for a lap. kind of tells me there's nothing more to be gained

and then ill deploy inlaps/outlaps, harvest during VSC/SC's and re-send deploy after it ends

[gritty wyvern]

Can you swap engine manufacturers as non supplier teams

[versed mantle]

havent seen anything like that for aston at least but i havent finished season 1 yet

[gritty wyvern]

Because I came across a menu that had all 4 with the stats and cost

But as red bull it's all locked

So idk if it's end of season or teams that aren't tied to making an engine

[versed mantle]

okay

sick practice in france

lets get points

what does manual mode in qualifying let you do better?

[gritty wyvern]

probably setting up things like tow

but idk i dont trust myself for manual quali

[tight sinew]

End of season thing pre sure

[wise flint]

Don’t think so, that’s why I’m filling out my spreadsheet

[wise flint]

That’s my strategy except I just don’t use defend

I just wait till the straights and slam deploy

Seems more effective

[wise flint]

And yes you can

[versed mantle]

admittedly I play the races in 16x most of the time, could prolly get slightly better results if I played slower (I do sometimes for crucial moments)

but ye

[gritty wyvern]

i love sandbagging practices

[gritty wyvern]

3 place grid penalty for getting rear ended

[tight sinew]

was it by Lewis cuz then it seems fitting

[gritty wyvern]

stroll rear ended checo

[wise flint]

In the same vein as @versed mantle 's suggestion on not using tyres in practice as there seems to be no reason to be, is there any reason to not full send your tyres in a race? can't seem to see any correlation between tyres temps and incidents thus far

so tempted to just full send for a race

Seems like temps just influence how quickly a tyre degrades imo

[versed mantle]

I find myself on aggressive 90% of the time, the only concern is deg

you never wanna go sub-30% before the end of a stint

[wise flint]

Yeah sub 30 is suicide

but I feel like tyre temps are quite literally useless?

Maybe not even working tbh

same with engine temps

[tight sinew]

yeah I've been feeling the same

[gritty wyvern]

so far

the only place i havent been full send

is cota

legit almost 4 stop for me

med med hard all 30% at end of stint

[versed mantle]

wtf

think I should've invested more in development facilities early on

compared to staff n operations

sadge

just wanted everyone to have high morale :(

[gritty wyvern]

im concerned i did alot of facilities as red bull

and all the staff is happy

but its orange

i hope they dont get yoinked

[tight sinew]

Azor just wanted everyone to be happy

But now stuck with ass car

[tight sinew]

They’re so expensive compared to staff upgrades tbf

[versed mantle]

ye but they are so important for long term

so I regret not doing them more

fuck my staff

and their stupid morale

[tight sinew]

I’ve been working on replacing my staff anyway lol

[gritty wyvern]

Ok this setup calc has to be fucked a bit

[tight sinew]

Although pre sure one of Aston’s race engineers is really good I think he’s the one I’m tryna yoink

[versed mantle]

I cant improve my staff much

[tight sinew]

It’s given me 100% every time

[versed mantle]

I got some rly good ones early in the season

and now when I look at the scout options

the only better ones are not interested

[gritty wyvern]

Im doing it properly

then sometimes its just stuck at 95%

[versed mantle]

I followed the calculator perfectly

and I swear to god

I ended with 12%

after 3 sessions

on vettel

[gritty wyvern]

like it wont give me a new setup

[versed mantle]

for some reason

otherwise its been great tho

vettel was just being uppity

oh

since I raided

they added two new options on the calculator

instead of just "Bad" there's "Bad high" and "Bad low"

prolly would've solved my vettel issue

[tight sinew]

Yeah I noticed after I had a few good performances I got interest from ones who weren’t before

[gritty wyvern]

oh

[tight sinew]

Yeah I noticed that this morning as well

[gritty wyvern]

time to refresh after this

i was manually checking

like it went left

hit bad and it went further away from the good marker i had

[tight sinew]

With the new bad high and bad low I hit 100% going into fp3

On both cars

[wise flint]

Tbf the fact there is a tool out this early is insane so guess bound to have some issues

[tight sinew]

I also love that you get to spend what you want to upgrade with your drivers

[versed mantle]

the underlying math seems pretty simple

[tight sinew]

I’m turning Piastri into a speed machine

[versed mantle]

but ye its a very nice tool

prolly closer to how they do it IRL than just guessing

[gritty wyvern]

@tight sinew careful might turn into kyviat

torpedo

[wise flint]

I want to believe the Ferrari mechanics just slam sliders around tbh

[gritty wyvern]

they did this week at spa

[tight sinew]

fuck it I can live with that

I'll cop a driver that either gets podium or DNF for a season or 2 until I can round him out more

[gritty wyvern]

man i fucked up this practice

only got 80% track

[versed mantle]

both vettel and stroll are weak acclimatisers

[tight sinew]

is that a them stat or race engineer stat

[gritty wyvern]

i think them?

[tight sinew]

fair

[gritty wyvern]

i feel like im not spending enough of the budget cap

and im at a loss at what to spend it on

[tight sinew]

I've altered the run plan to give them longer stints in fp

[tight sinew]

bro I don't have the money to

[versed mantle]

not enough cash to reach the budget gap

[gritty wyvern]

like im at mexico with 80 mil left

oh im also giga broke too

[tight sinew]

prayge I get better sponsors at end of year

[gritty wyvern]

but im just upgrading facilities if i can

im doing the opposite of rb

not bring upgrades as the season goes

cmon checo

lets get you the win at home

[tight sinew]

yeah I may have told Lando to stay 2nd to give Danny a win

no bias I swear

[gritty wyvern]

he wants that spot back

[wise flint]

Dont show horner, he will pop a blood vessel

[tight sinew]

I think next time I'll do a playthrough with a down bad team seems like it'll be fun

[gritty wyvern]

so ferrari

[tight sinew]

Get 2 rookie drivers and play the long game

[tight sinew]

Ferrari has been really solid in my play through something is wrong

Pretty sure they’re 1st in constructors and Max vs Charles is giga close

[versed mantle]

weird how the game has VSC's in practice. do those ever happen IRL

think thats my first fully perfect practice

[tight sinew]

Nice

Wtf Stroll is an 80

[wise flint]

Same as latifi

the game knows theyre both equally as shit

[tight sinew]

80 seems generous asf

[wise flint]

Bare in mind academy drivers like piastri are mid 70's

and tbh with how SLOW driver progression is im glad

I expect them to boost how quickly drivers level up

[gritty wyvern]

i have been conserving on perez for 20 laps

only got ,5 laps back

[wise flint]

Off topic but someone did some pace runs with ferrari and found the hard tyre was only 0.2 seconds a lap slower than softs

[versed mantle]

listen man

why the FUCK

would I give

a bonus

for anything less than 10th

[wise flint]

Bruh

how is lando

cheaper than albon

[gritty wyvern]

[versed mantle]

I need literally 1 point

to get 8th

cuz mclaren basically dont score

in my save

[strong hatch]

[neon belfry]

[strong hatch]

I'm impressed wiht some people in this game

[tight sinew]

Try a 2 season contract

[versed mantle]

oh you think he'd want less?

didnt even consider that..

most want more

[tight sinew]

Only reason I did is I had that situation with one of my new staff

[versed mantle]

idk if im somehow inting quali or if aston is just AWFUL over a single lap in this game

I qualify 17-19 and finish 11-12 routinely now

[tight sinew]

I always finish way ahead of where I Quali I think it’s cuz my car has dogshit speed

[wise flint]

barcelona

Holy fuck aston's car is bad

This is after first round of stops

Ignore verstappen 20 seconds ahead

LMFAOO

[tight sinew]

Albono to get points I believe

[wise flint]

Some drivers are two stopping so higly possible

but bruh

aston 17 seconds behind the rest and verstappen 20 seconds clear at BARCELONA? seaseon 1

thats nuts

[tight sinew]

Was there any spins or anything?

[wise flint]

None

only ocon early

but he was mid table

[gritty wyvern]

@versed mantle you could test it by simming a quali

like make a save before

then test

yeah this bad high/low thing

100% fp2

FUCKING STROLL

again

punting checo

[tight sinew]

Yeah I end up giving them a long stint in p3 to help with track acclimatisation like 30 lap run plan

Also getting strolled again

[gritty wyvern]

i do 2 soft runs and a half run in fp1 then 1 soft 1 medium fp2

[strong hatch]

I love how much of a meme Stroll seems to be in this game