Pants of Exile

[royal ermine]

dont worry

He will post it on poe forums to brag

@mossy mosshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf2IOcLywzQ

[soft barn]

Boys I am pleased to announce I have no idea which OP tech to use

Multiple leagues since Nico coppied Dave

[coral pollen]

I mean you can still do it from a hunter base right?

[bronze terrace]

Maybe we can agree on sth this time

You already have some faves?

[soft barn]

Its probably impending doom

But I'm really tempted by the new neck with self chill self poison

[bronze terrace]

Is it league start viable tho?

[gusty vessel]

Ye but getting a hunter thicket bow/shortbow is alot harder than just exalting :P

[bronze terrace]

Yeah that looks so juicy

[coral pollen]

Icefang orbit golden rule stonks?

[soft barn]

There is a budget version with no need for vixens ye, you just lose a link

[gusty vessel]

There's no way that shit will live shooty

[bronze terrace]

Yeah

[soft barn]

And ye. We will see how much of it makes it to live

[coral pollen]

tho

[bronze terrace]

I wanna do a practice run later for occy or cold dot trickster

Maybe I will just test the impending doom leveling

[soft barn]

Its kinda sad that I think cold dot bossing will be so much stronger than ever before

[gusty vessel]

Cos if the first part lives then the 2nd part will make it absolutely into the ggg will nerf it during the league kinda thing

[soft barn]

And I'm not playing it for once

[gusty vessel]

With the progenesis flask

And scaling flask effect

To become one shot immune

[bronze terrace]

Yeah cold dot looks pretty solid too

[gusty vessel]

Xd

Ye cold dot is ncie

[soft barn]

I mean as long as its not based on a bugged interaction

[bronze terrace]

I never league started it either

[gusty vessel]

Technically it isnt

But like

[soft barn]

They cant really justify nerfing it mid league

[coral pollen]

Full life petrified blood pathfinder gaming

[soft barn]

There have been 100% immortal vaal skill characters before

that survived for multiple leagues

idk

[coral pollen]

Wasn't uh strength of blood in existence for multiple leagues too

[soft barn]

Also you could do cold BV occy just as easy as cold dot

[bronze terrace]

https://youtu.be/IRhDQddRRHo

[soft barn]

and abuse the same masteries

[coral pollen]

Until they deleted leech calc interaction

[bronze terrace]

Any tuna enjoyers

[soft barn]

for 60% inv taken on enemy

inc

[gusty vessel]

Getting millions of healing per second + being one shot immune by basically sacrifising a jewel,amulet, both rings, flask slot and 1 gem socket doesn't seem uhm... intended

[soft barn]

ok thats what I needed

[bronze terrace]

Having a leveled shadow would be nice too tho

[royal ermine]

@soft barnprivate league when

[coral pollen]

Progenesis is going to be so expensive this league

[bronze terrace]

Bossing might be quite profitable

It’s Uber maven right?

[soft barn]

If tuna is maxrolling this I'm playing it

[soft barn]

If multiple people wanna do some broSF TSL league for a few weeks I'm down

I'll gladly bankroll it for a week then people can chip in if they want more

[bronze terrace]

Think I’m in

[soft barn]

There is also some new tech in the masteries for it

like +1 gem when you have vixens, ailment avoid from suppress

mana res

[reef grail]

No clue what to play

[mossy moss]

DN

[reef grail]

They're coming for your ass

[bronze terrace]

hm tuna said he wants to level as pconc on witch

[soft barn]

Ye till about A7

But you could do it on any witch levelling

[royal ermine]

@soft barn what happens after private league expire

[bronze terrace]

not sure how that will work out with the changes

[soft barn]

I'm tempted to do vort

[soft barn]

All merged into main league trade

[bronze terrace]

vort is fine too ye but may need a lot of respeccing

[soft barn]

Yeah I'd do a prac run to try keep it minimal I guess

idk what else to do on witch start if spark is deadge

[bronze terrace]

is it dead?

Tyty saying pconc leveling will be fine still too

[gusty vessel]

Ye but you need to run like 3 life flasks

Which means either no double quick silver

Or no mana flask

[bronze terrace]

i can live with only one quicksilver ig

so just go pconc into impending doom on act 7

[gusty vessel]

• you wont be using gmp for it even with that

Meaning your damage will suck past like act 5-6 imo

Compared to what it was

[bronze terrace]

and you cant get crucible trees while leveling

maybe I will just wait for daves prac run and copy

not really making sense to prac level pconc atm

[gusty vessel]

What why

Oooh ye cos pconc

I mean

You can use it on shields

[bronze terrace]

true

act 6 or 7 swapping to imp doom he said

[royal ermine]

ah

[bronze terrace]

guess you can easily still 3-6 with pcon

[soft barn]

I've played like 50 hours of PoE in the last 4 months, I'm actually giga rusty

[bronze terrace]

i have like 3h max

build looks really nice tho

[ocean galleon]

Nice thanks, watched it all. Looks/sounds very decent

The impending doom Tuna is going with also looks good

[bronze terrace]

hm that EK video looks promising too

also a skill I never tried

but thats also witch so I could just switch later anyway

or try that poison spark once you have ashes

[ocean galleon]

Too many options

[bronze terrace]

always the same

leveling of EK seems better than Impending doom

[gusty vessel]

Oh you want to talk about options mumrikk? My wheel of names is still growing

Just waiting for friday

[bronze terrace]

Hope tuna makes a maxroll guide for impending doom

That would seal the deal

[ocean galleon]

[bronze terrace]

Also copying Dave is a nice bonus

[ocean galleon]

I want league now

[bronze terrace]

Same

ok nvm EK starting

impending doom sounds way more comfy bc you need gloomfang and watchers to swap

[gusty vessel]

What

[bronze terrace]

thats what the video you linked says atleast

you go WoC until gloomfang

[gusty vessel]

Ye but i explained earlier you can do it with hrimsorrow + obliteration

[bronze terrace]

didnt see that

[gusty vessel]

Waiting till watchers is bait since you might not even run convert watcher in the end game

[bronze terrace]

ok so just 15C on day1 instead of 300+

still seems like a start as sth else and swap later angle

[gusty vessel]

Gloomfang will probs be cheaper this league anyways cos i doubt as many ppl will play it

But who knows

[bronze terrace]

ID doesnt need anything from what I've seen to atleast do map progression

[royal ermine]

@soft barnso we doing it?

[gusty vessel]

Neither does ignite, you can easily do up to yellows with woc

Red map bosses get iffy tho

Without buying some upgrades

[bronze terrace]

too many options

[royal ermine]

I wanna play zoomancer i think

Looks interesting

[sullen tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938231642529595413/1092213497812750367/image.png

cem

[reef grail]

Log in

Think I'm gonna play srs

[sullen tiger]

[desert cradle]

https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1642626274656161792?t=LJBlgZFN6GEOsXBiYsOA2Q&s=19

Path of Exile (@pathofexile)

Vaal Animate Weapon turns weapons or lingering blades into an army of random Unique Weapons.

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Twitter · Apr 2, 2023, 8:33 PM

The high rolls on that are gonna be nuts

[reef grail]

Yall got your stance macros ready?

[sullen tiger]

they change before launch

[bronze terrace]

New pob is out too

[bronze terrace]

Helmet swap meta

[ocean galleon]

Think they will kill it off

[bronze terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVVgG6CkF8k

Bow Venom Gyre

[sullen tiger]

[bronze terrace]

venom gyre claws was one of my fav league starts so far

[ocean galleon]

Oh no more options

I would go cold dot if I had not already tried it a few times and find it pretty snooze

[bronze terrace]

ok so either impending doom or venom gyre

or WoC into EK

[ocean galleon]

Pretty much also my top picks atm

[bronze terrace]

VG just not super good for league mechanic I think

but nice reroll potential into a TS build

[ocean galleon]

But then again impending doom also looks a bit satisfyingly to play

[bronze terrace]

yeah pops are bis

EK has pops too tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWJdTbpht8o

[ocean galleon]

Now I wonder what the prices on the master surgeon forbidden jewel will end up being

[sullen tiger]

Kobeblackmamba

[desert cradle]

Why you hating kobe now?

[bronze terrace]

His builds are usually good I don’t really like him as a person tho

[desert cradle]

Why lol?

I swear to god yall just hate every poe content creator for no reason

[bronze terrace]

I don’t hate him

I just don’t like watching his streams

[desert cradle]

Thats fair but a bit different to not liking him as a person lol

Thats saying he did some asshole stuff

[bronze terrace]

Like pricefixing hh

[ocean galleon]

Not saying Kobe is one of those, but I remember the talk in here at one point was about content creators doing rmt. Never really thought about it before, but makes total sense that some of them would just swipe to keep up appearance. Was a eye opener

[bronze terrace]

I mean I would too if it was my job

Stay relevant for a bit of cash

[ocean galleon]

Yeah just never crossed my mind before

[desert cradle]

Tbf ive never watch kobes streams only ever his league vids but no doubt some creators do that lmao

[mossy moss]

only thing i dislike about kobe is he tends to be very negative about the game in general but then also play 16hours per day

like ok dude

[desert cradle]

Couldnt imagine streaming poe and trying to gdt views

[bronze terrace]

Isn’t that most content creators?

[desert cradle]

Average poe player lmao

[mossy moss]

yeah a lot of them i guess

[desert cradle]

Only streamer i watch is cutedog nowdays most others are boring and i much prefer their ytube vids

[bronze terrace]

Ruetoo

[ocean galleon]

PoE got potential for having a steady income if you can make yourself relevant somewhat and have a "niche". But you will get big playing poe

[bronze terrace]

Cutedog is a vibe too tho

[desert cradle]

Honestly has to be one of the worst games to try become big on

[ocean galleon]

Rue is hard to watch, at least the few times I have tuned in and he just spergs out with a angry rant

[desert cradle]

By pure gameplay point

[mossy moss]

rue is a real crybaby past leagues

hard to watch

[bronze terrace]

Yeah you can’t watch him permanently

[desert cradle]

Havent watch rue but is it basically he needs to quit poe?

[mossy moss]

possibly

he might feel he NEEDS to play and thats obviously gonna cause problems

[ocean galleon]

I usually like Mathil for chill streams. Except when he goes on rants against people being slightly critical of the game and his chat just circle jerks to it

[desert cradle]

Content creators for games are so bad for that

Circle jerk streams are the worst

[bronze terrace]

Ok I think VG is out

I kinda want a leveled witch for swapping later

[ocean galleon]

So what are you back to of candidates now ?

[desert cradle]

Vortex ignite is so tempting

[ocean galleon]

Vortex ignite was very good when I played it a few leagues ago. Not sure if its the same now

[bronze terrace]

Cold dot kinda tempting too

[ocean galleon]

Problem with cold dot is that it never seems to pop off, it will just be "fine" forever. But could work to farm currency for a more juiced end game build I guess

[bronze terrace]

Wish I had a char to testrun impending doom if I like the playstyle

[ocean galleon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsViMao5-ug
Seems a bit jank to do the leap slap frost blink animation cancel stuff

[bronze terrace]

Wtf

[royal ermine]

Poe check @mossy moss

@ocean galleon quin is best poe streamer

The state on league launch xD

[bronze terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_2rfJVgmA @royal ermine here

do your minion shit

[ocean galleon]

I do enjoy Quin only problem is he is so big now that his fanbase/chat is just horrible most of the time.

[bronze terrace]

Did anyone playImpending Doom last league? How was the boss dmg?

[royal ermine]

omg

IM BACK BABY

MAGES

[royal ermine]

thats the best part tho

chat bullying him

@cursive scaffold join me as a skele mages gamer

[desert cradle]

no clue about league start but 2nd chars are nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtzuOK4YQNY&t=79s

[bronze terrace]

Yeah I think I will do that

[sweet eagle]

pob update

[desert cradle]

https://twitter.com/Tytykiller_/status/1642807560939126784?t=z5COD7qj_aku20QnIiPgVg&s=19

Tytykiller (@Tytykiller_)

(ACTUAL) 3.21 Tier List

Order depends a lot on preference

Likes

262

Twitter · Apr 3, 2023, 8:33 AM

[mossy moss]

bonezone chads where the FUCK we at

[sweet eagle]

I'm going to check other skills first, bonezone 5th league in a row

[mossy moss]

melee life

one singular good starter skill

[bronze terrace]

Cold dot on 1

[mossy moss]

yeah not surprised

but i cant stand playing vortex

[bronze terrace]

It all looks like impending doom is set

[mossy moss]

[wind rain]

impending doom isn't that expensive of a build lmao

it's 3m dps on a 1div budget

the highest vixens were last league was 19c

[bronze terrace]

3m dps isn’t a lot either tho

[mossy moss]

more than enough for everything not ubers

[desert cradle]

Cold dot vortex no pops is

The ignite one looks cozy with obliteration

[royal ermine]

ITS MAGES LEAGUE DUDE

[wind rain]

Yeah but it's a very good starting point

[bronze terrace]

Not if you suck at the game

[wind rain]

even then

occultists has cascading aoe clear

kill one mob and it chains

and boss dmg is literally hold your curse button and pseudo slam boss

[royal ermine]

@wind rain@mossy mosshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_2rfJVgmA

ITS HAPPENING

ITS REAL

ITS FUCKIGN REAL

[wind rain]

what do you mean

it's always real for you every league

[royal ermine]

LAST league I played HH VB wdym?

[wind rain]

mistakes happen

[mossy moss]

HH cyclone glad

never forgetti

[wind rain]

[royal ermine]

that was a giga build

[wind rain]

you couldn't even kill mobs to get hh stacks

[bronze terrace]

Yeah I guess it’s fine and also a good point to switch off after a week

[stoic agate]

[sweet eagle]

I'm unsure what strike skill to use

[stoic agate]

Boneshatter

Enter the Bonezone

[sweet eagle]

thinking of glacial hammer or heavy strike slayer

[reef grail]

THE BOOOONEZOOOONE

[sweet eagle]

boneshatter is so boring, already played it once

[sweet eagle]

would like to try out the stun mastery that gives adrenaline for 2 seconds per 100 ms stun

but I guess juggernaut is better for that than slayer, right?

ah nvm, thought the stun immunity was on the first big ascendancy node

also the impaler keystone with the new impale passives could be pretty bonkers

[wind rain]

im so hyped for friday!!!

[ocean galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/hype-party-gif-23560775

[mossy moss]

same

lvling prac made me extra hype

ive missed this game

[wind rain]

you skipped last league didn't u

[mossy moss]

pretty much

made it to 85 or something

[wind rain]

i didn't play that much either

[stoic agate]

Get hyped

[wind rain]

reave buff

[stoic agate]

No shuddie this league to pog out with

[mossy moss]

he died for our sins

[wind rain]

saira killed him

[stoic agate]

I miss the lil guy

[mossy moss]

he lives on in the pins of this thread

[desert cradle]

you played more than you normally do

[wind rain]

i did no't

[desert cradle]

been that long you forgot

[wind rain]

not

i played two weeks

[stoic agate]

Bunch of addicts

[wind rain]

usually it's 3-4

[stoic agate]

[desert cradle]

you 100% played more than 2 weeks

old man brain

[bronze terrace]

My max char was 49

[ocean galleon]

https://youtu.be/KAcrchacF8g
Where is palsteron on the trust meter from 1-10 with fyregrass being 1 and..don't know who is 10.

[desert cradle]

ballista skills are pretty imo

Palsteron makes good vids but man is always giga rich for his builds

[wind rain]

i mean

he either makes shit builds

the occasional good build

or the usual stolen build from KR servers

[ocean galleon]

Yeah he always seems to have giga gear in his videos

[desert cradle]

so what every creator then?

[wind rain]

no bips there's a difference between pretending it's your own build

[desert cradle]

[wind rain]

and saying that you saw someone play it

just honesty that's all

[desert cradle]

Palsteron plays his build from the videos ive watch of his in the past 2 leagues

so idk what you smoking

[wind rain]

his slammer build

from last league

is a build someone uploaded on youtube

in 2017

3.17*

[desert cradle]

and?

If someone made a video of it before others can't ?

[wind rain]

not claim it as their own then, just give credit

[desert cradle]

Have you got proof he claimed it as his own?

As from your claim like every poe creator is scum then

[wind rain]

he literally said i've been working on this build for a while ON STREAM

[bronze terrace]

And literally nobody credits the first time someone plays something

Well if he was?

[desert cradle]

Ok and ? its not like he said HE MADE IT just he's working on his version

[bronze terrace]

Palsteron guides are pretty solid usually @ocean galleon

[desert cradle]

Like from your take every poe creator is scum then since like everyone makes their own vids on builds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2aEgT_jvAE&t=1085s like my man made a 41min guide on it

Actually putting good effort into showcasing a build

He also says at the start of the video a build i "found" not "created"

[wind rain]

then i take back what i said

[stoic agate]

Palsteron build mandatory unique =

[desert cradle]

Ye didnt help ggg did build of the week on it

Plus just str stacking was super popular this league

[stoic agate]

Stat stacking is always popular

[desert cradle]

Really tempted to play bleed bow glad or glad melee idk but i know its just gonna be omega horrible as a league start

Never played rf before either

[stoic agate]

Go ice trap

With heatshiver

[desert cradle]

Doesnt ice trap have ass clear or is it not that bad anymore?

[stoic agate]

[reef grail]

Saw an ice trap occultist guide

Really dislike the delayed damage of traps tho

Yall seen the fire trap frostblink elementalist?

https://youtu.be/xsViMao5-ug

[stoic agate]

Pog

[wind rain]

looks quite good

[stoic agate]

[gusty vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfLRrbPj6wg cold dot ele to this

[stoic agate]

Woc ignite to ek

Need gloomfang and oblit, ye?

[gusty vessel]

Oblit ja hrimsorrow

Gloomfang is nice to have as early as possible

But imo you can swap without it

If you dont mind spending some more time on red map bosses

[bronze terrace]

impending doom into some other build

maybe EK

[stoic agate]

Thx boss man

[bronze terrace]

Poison spark should still be fine too or

[mossy moss]

yeah

only lost some proj speed

[stoic agate]

Spark is poop

Reddit told me

[bronze terrace]

25% proj speed

should be whatever

[stoic agate]

PoE when

[ocean galleon]

WoW 10.1 news
PoE new league

[bronze terrace]

[reef grail]

[sullen tiger]

What the fuck

[ocean galleon]

Cursed emoji

[gusty vessel]

[stoic agate]

Cooked mfers

[sweet eagle]

think I've made a possible glacial hammer slayer league starter

and then if I can get heatshiver it's even better

[ocean galleon]

Awaiting your "best league starter 3.21" video

[sweet eagle]

naa fuck that

really like that they added a few +max res masteries

[ocean galleon]

Oh, for the people maybe on the EK train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-GKFfKssPI

[stoic agate]

[reef grail]

Gamer female

[sweet eagle]

if any of you are bored, care to take a look and maybe help me out with anything that could be changed?
https://pobb.in/ylSBWqxroy6X

[stoic agate]

Guess again

[soft barn]

I reeeeeeeeeeally need to get a prac run done

to get a feel for when I can swap to impending doom

and work out what I wanna use till then

Maybe bane? Can you even level with bane

[sweet eagle]

surely doable, but I reckon bosses might take a while to do

[soft barn]

Yee, I guess I kinda wanted to stick to something chaos related

to keep the swapping minimal later on

but I could do cold dot and take like 5 cold points then generic dot

[stoic agate]

Are we ready to witness PogDave pog out hard this weekend?

[soft barn]

although I dont think I'll be playing dot impending till later on anyway

I'm going hard till tuesday ye

then real life gets in the way again

[sullen tiger]

im kinda poggin out rn thinkin abt friday

do i post it

[soft barn]

[stoic agate]

Always post it

[soft barn]

[ocean galleon]

Please do and let us leech off your findings

[sullen tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/129594743393878017/890701313191591936/VID-20210220-WA0008-1.mp4

[soft barn]

Might start now tbh, I'm 150 hours deep into my Factorio Space Exploration run and I need a break

[sullen tiger]

WOOOOOOOOOOO

[ocean galleon]

[stoic agate]

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sweet eagle]

carn_ playing boneshatter one more league

[ocean galleon]

[mossy moss]

[stoic agate]

[reef grail]

I keep mixing up carn with cohhcarnage

idfk why

well, I do know why, but you know what I mean

[reef grail]

w-what do you mean

[stoic agate]

Did i stutter?

[reef grail]

they take the train in spain

dont they

[soft barn]

So I switched to impending doom in act 5 just fine. Needs 4b item and EB with 300 mana or so to make it work

It trucks on targets that aren't moving fast but might need some aoe to be comfier

I think staying cold dot till 2nd lab would be better though

[sullen tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938231642529595413/1092618591658066021/image.png

[stoic agate]

[soft barn]

Good

[stoic agate]

how that got through to patch notes will forever remain a mystery

[desert cradle]

This is hilarious

People are saying this is gonna be quite rare of a card baed off stranglegrasp testing done

[coral pollen]

Yeah it's influenced too

So giga rare

[desert cradle]

Cant wait for britishexile to do a 300div gamba on it and all of them are bad lmao

[bronze terrace]

Just generic cold build before swapping?

On the other hand tyty is doing the impending doom leveling build so it wouldn’t be that dumb to just follow that

[royal ermine]

Quit wow for poe

[royal ermine]

Is pogdave setting private league up

[spark needle]

@desert cradle any other recommended beginner builds

[desert cradle]

Hmmm

[bronze terrace]

You can also do the tr

Lots of info this time around

Zizaran even did a full walkthrough with everything explained

[desert cradle]

Ye TR is a good shout for new players

[bronze terrace]

https://youtu.be/iKD2Nr9yVS4

[desert cradle]

Honestly no meme if you wanted to play melee boneshatter woudln't be a horrible send

[bronze terrace]

Bips really wants you to quit after day 1

[desert cradle]

Boneshatter is strong af

[bronze terrace]

Melee is in a horrible state

[desert cradle]

Ye but boneshatter is disgustingly good

@mossy moss is a massive boneshatter hyper

[bronze terrace]

Also always a good call is to play sth Someone here knows a lot about

And @gusty vessel played like 5k hours of TR

So he could probably help you with anything

[desert cradle]

Cold dot also giga good

anything with freeze is so good for begineers imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHAUGGhJY4w @spark needle

Basically you put one skill (Vortex) on your move button instead and it just places as you walk and you also have a skill called creeping frost for dmg

[spark needle]

Oh also

[desert cradle]

Could also play some form of minions if you wanna summon stuff

[spark needle]

Any good YouTubers or anything for just learning the game itself

[desert cradle]

SRS probably still giga good

Haven't watched this but Ziz is always good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRy50Og8lDM

[spark needle]

Like I watched some of the videos of the Pohx guides

[desert cradle]

Think this is giga basics

[spark needle]

But I just had no clue what was going on

[desert cradle]

Ye fair

[spark needle]

Other than him killing stuff good

[bronze terrace]

It’s a lot of information at the beginning

But the good thing about poe is you don’t really need to know everything

[desert cradle]

Maybe i do ele ignite start

[bronze terrace]

I still have no clue how to craft top tier items

[desert cradle]

just do vortex or something

and if i plan to get giga rich i do RF or something

[bronze terrace]

Tripolar does cold dot into vortex ignite

[desert cradle]

ele rf looks so fun

cold dot is so tho

[bronze terrace]

With maxroll guide coming

[desert cradle]

i just wanna vortex

ele is so giga versatile so i think im locked it

[bronze terrace]

I really think for your first time playing you should pick an easy skill that’s good covered by guides @spark needle

Oh wrong one

[spark needle]

ye this was one of the ones I watched

he was blinking around popping off

[desert cradle]

ye ele rf is expensive

100% not beginner friendly

[spark needle]

[bronze terrace]

If you go rf go the jugg version ig

It’s just a preference thing

Rf is a walking simulator

[spark needle]

kinda wild that there is just a RF guy

and his whole thing is just RF

[bronze terrace]

He does nothing else

[spark needle]

hair game on point tho

[bronze terrace]

True lol

If you like minion stuff you can also go skele mages or sth

But that’s even more boring than rf

[desert cradle]

I wouldn't say its super beginner friendly but you might like venom gyre if you wanna throw poison shurikens

This one isn't super new player friendly at all but lighting arrow looks fun this league

[bronze terrace]

Maybe just picking a skill that fit the fantasy he likes is better than going for the easiest ones

[desert cradle]

Ye i was thinking that

Why im just throwing stuff out

@spark needle what do you like gameplay wise

[bronze terrace]

Not really sure bc we are all so deep in poe

[desert cradle]

whatcu wanna do

Ye when i started i really wanted to play cyclone

so i did

TBF that was during pog cyclone era

[spark needle]

prolly something on the faster pace side pref ranged

[desert cradle]

If you do play a bow skill it is one of the harder playstyles as you will be sooooo much squisher

There are some good ranged spells

Do you wanna self cast stuff or have minions or totems ?

[bronze terrace]

My first build was spectral throw

[spark needle]

hm I'm not opposed to the idea of minions but self cast prolly cooler

[desert cradle]

was my 2nd one

the good ol days when people played it

[bronze terrace]

Ok let’s have a look at Tytys tier list for a fast ranged build

[desert cradle]

Wave of conviction maybe?

Pretty simple

[desert cradle]

CF is a big nono i bet

Caustic arrow or TR would be best imo

[bronze terrace]

Have a look at the tr video of ziz

It’s 5h but should explain everything you need to know starting

And you can see the playstyle

[desert cradle]

Ye either TR/Caustic Arrow you pick OR wave of conviction if you wanna be ranged stuff

Venom gyre also has a cool playstyle

Just google those ones @spark needle see if you like

[spark needle]

aight bet

[bronze terrace]

I can’t bring myself to play WoC

[desert cradle]

maybe i start WoC for safety

or yolo

[bronze terrace]

It’s a safe bet ye

[spark needle]

are all of these poor friendly?

[desert cradle]

These ones more yeah @spark needle

venom gyre probably not

[spark needle]

why not

this looks kinda neat

[desert cradle]

Its a little clunky

[bronze terrace]

Venom gyre wasn’t too bad when I played it

High ceiling tho

[bronze terrace]

Idk just personal preference

Same with tr

I hate it but a lot of people love it

I don’t really like the delayed damage in tr

[desert cradle]

Ye maybe i do WoC into vortex or rf

[bronze terrace]

And woc animation feels to slow for me

Pretty solid starter tho with a lot of reroll potential later

[spark needle]

hm

TR looks kinda cool

[desert cradle]

CA start kinda looks tempting aswell

Could do CA Deaths oath

[bronze terrace]

All my irl friends start TR this time too

[mossy moss]

bow gear was always expensive

its gonna be fucked this league

[desert cradle]

Yeeee

[bronze terrace]

You can easily craft a tr bow yourself tho

[sullen tiger]

Welcome

https://tenor.com/view/bowing-thank-you-tom-and-jerry-take-a-bow-chasing-gif-20784169

Poe chat gains another boi

[soft barn]

Nico, ill see how early tytys thing goes impending

But I dont think you can play it at like 31 on the dot

Before that it was creeping frost cold snap

Also hello woodsy

[bronze terrace]

Did you respec a lot?

Maybe I will do a test run today too

[spark needle]

[spark needle]

does this mean no good for beginner or will it not matter for me

[desert cradle]

TR you can craft bow

[spark needle]

oh ok

pog

[soft barn]

Like 2 points

[bronze terrace]

Well that’s easy then

[soft barn]

Cold dot is so op you could do it without a tree

[bronze terrace]

You get enough points from acts

You just freestyled the tree?

[soft barn]

I'd need to respec like 5 more points later

[bronze terrace]

That’s still reasonable

[soft barn]

But they arent urgent

I looked up the essential nodes

Not many nodes actually give your impending extra dam

If youre not doing enough poison yet

[bronze terrace]

You get like 20 respec points from acts

[soft barn]

Ive done far bigger respecs

Ye

[bronze terrace]

So you go in the general direction of ID and just take cold nodes instead of chaos?

Until act 7 or sth when you can start playing ID

[soft barn]

I take legit 2 cold nodes

[desert cradle]

ok ignite ele it is

[soft barn]

Then its all life and stuff while moving to id poison nodes

[desert cradle]

either just full yolo vortex or woc > vortex

[soft barn]

Then take the poison and swap

[bronze terrace]

Ok nice

I’ll try it out today

[soft barn]

I did full vortex last league. Was sick

[desert cradle]

ye i love vortex just not a massive fan of creeping frost

[soft barn]

People try to say play woc till late acts

[desert cradle]

would rather do ignite vortex i think

[soft barn]

Yeah I mean for ele ignite

I think woc is slightly more optimal

But its minor

Till late acts then everyone should be vort

Nico, im kinda conflicted though. Cause you don't take any nodes for id damage other than poison

And poison does basically nothing till later on

Why bother going for the nodes at all is what i was thinking

[bronze terrace]

so just cold dot all the way?

[soft barn]

Either that or flesh out the life and suppression parts of the tree

Take more aura nodes too

Cause ID fucking slaps as soon as you put it on

Its just high mana and needs a 4l and some area

[bronze terrace]

which ID pob did you look at?

[soft barn]

I took EB when I swapped too

[bronze terrace]

yeah EB is a must I think

[soft barn]

Just a few ID poison builds from ninja

Clusters are probably the real damage later on

[bronze terrace]

yeah

which cold points did you take?

ok poeninja has a lot of diff trees for ID

some go right and down and some stay on the upper side and branch left and right

[soft barn]

Mine was far right

Right and down a bit, quite defensive

Just the cast speed res ones at the start

[bronze terrace]

so probably starting like this and then going right and down to life

looks good enough to try it

[soft barn]

Yeah I did exactly that

[bronze terrace]

ok nice

wouldnt it be smart to also take those points? I guess it depends on when you want to swap

[soft barn]

If I was gonna take extra shit

It would be EO

and the mana nodes near it for res efficiency

I think

[royal ermine]

@spark needle ur one of us ?

[spark needle]

I guess so

[royal ermine]

Hell ye

Do you know rule 1?

@mossy moss IM POGGING WOOO

[spark needle]

no

[bronze terrace]

EO?

[royal ermine]

WOOOOOO

[soft barn]

Elemental Overload

The 30% more when you crit one

[bronze terrace]

oh yeah

4 more points

[royal ermine]

Also @spark needle if u need help with acting remember im veteran and still suck

[bronze terrace]

man I can still remember being new and seeing this for the first time

[royal ermine]

Same

[spark needle]

bro this scares me

[royal ermine]

Dw woodsy

Just follow guide

[bronze terrace]

yeah TCing yourself is not something you do in your first 2k hours

besides from gear

[soft barn]

You'll be fine woodsy. I'd follow a simple build that scales nice and easy. And don't let people in here control everything you do or try give you lile 50 different instructions on how to be optimal

Fastest way to get overwhelmed and have no fun

[sweet eagle]

I'm trying to convince my friend to try PoE since he likes Diablo a lot, but just looking at the tree is overwhelming - so I told him to just start play the game blindly without any guide and such

then when he finish the acts, then he can start following a guide

[soft barn]

For what its worth i have like 7k hours so I can help with some troubleshooting if you have questions

[spark needle]

downloading PoE rn gonna watch that TR playthrough just to get a feel for the game

and then probably fuck around on it over the next couple of days

[bronze terrace]

yeah ziz is really beginner friendly

[spark needle]

and if after watching I think TR is pog

I'll just play that

[bronze terrace]

nice

[sweet eagle]

my friend whines about how ugly the game is and says that's also a reason he can't play it

[bronze terrace]

your friend is ugly

[sweet eagle]

it has it's charm, without mtx

[soft barn]

Yeah if ziz has a playalong for a new player build that would be a good start

[bronze terrace]

he did a 5h explaining everything walkthrough on TR

[spark needle]

bit of light watching before bed

[soft barn]

I trust him to be explaining the right things for a new player

[bronze terrace]

yeah for sure

and 5h seems like he isnt explaining too much

[sweet eagle]

my friend watched a asmongold guide, and was overwhelmed that it was 40 minutes long

[soft barn]

Ye

[mossy moss]

I can only pretty pretty looking overpriced garbage AAA game

[spark needle]

tbh I'm just keen to play top down arpg with fun combat

[soft barn]

Its all about the GWAPHICS

[spark needle]

never tried diablo

D4 got me like

ok I like this

[soft barn]

Poe is the undisputed king of arpgs if you're a nerd

[ocean galleon]

PoE will take a bit to learn, but its worth it !

[soft barn]

And will be for years to come

[sweet eagle]

after having played PoE for a long time, I'm actually more scared to play other rpg games if they lack complexity or layers

[spark needle]

I really enjoyed combat in LA but the ping from OCE was giga cringe

[royal ermine]

La isnt even close as good

Combat in poe is bis

[spark needle]

tbh I just need a game that finally lets me kick league of legends to the curb

[bronze terrace]

my first real league I spent 600h in those 2 months playing

there was no time for any other game

[royal ermine]

Same

[spark needle]

new raid in a month sadly

but if PoE can cover me till then

I'm happy

[royal ermine]

Fuck that

[bronze terrace]

oh yeah a month is plenty of time

[royal ermine]

Poe 2 months stright

[bronze terrace]

most people stop before that I would say

then wait for next league

[soft barn]

I rarely go hard for more than a month

This time I'll only need to stop for new raid ye

[sweet eagle]

my first 300 hours or something was just playing different HC characters and dying in lab at lvl 30, or not coming past act 2 (2016)

[soft barn]

Fingers crossed I'm only progging for a month though xdd

[spark needle]

time to go watch this 5h video lmao

[royal ermine]

Pog dave

[bronze terrace]

I could never play HC

I would just deinstall after my first death

[soft barn]

I reached maps once in HC

then never did a single map

[sweet eagle]

for me it was that I really wanted to try HC in diablo 3, but felt like it was so pointless since D3 lacked layered defense and the damage numbers were so unreasonable

but my friend said I should try PoE instead, and I tried it in the beta and it was fun - so off I went

although I didn't try that hard since I played WoW which took most of the time, so I didn't care if I got far or not

[soft barn]

Not bad for 6 years of playing

[bronze terrace]

did you ever drop a mirror?

[soft barn]

Nop

[bronze terrace]

nice

[soft barn]

I think a mageblood is the only T0 I've had

[bronze terrace]

i dont even know what items are t0

[sweet eagle]

2276 hours here + 300 or something without the steam client

[soft barn]

MB, HH, Squire pretty much

[sweet eagle]

super rare uniques

1% drop rate or less, right?

[soft barn]

And Mirror I guess, but thats a bit different

Oh, far far less than that lmao

faaaaaaaaar less

[sweet eagle]

[soft barn]

Also i75 drop restriction on the uniques

unless generated from a reward type

Or maybe thats just MB? I feel like I've seen people claiming HH drops at lower level

[bronze terrace]

reefbane is T0

[soft barn]

Maybe that was just because of the old nemesis restrictions

[soft barn]

Please dont tell me this

I've dropped a reefbane from uber izaro

[bronze terrace]

LMAO

thats like winning the lottery and losing the ticket

[sweet eagle]

will be interesting to see if people try crucible tree on the fishing rods

[bronze terrace]

ashes and omni are 1% from what I've read

T0 is way off of that

[soft barn]

2% for those two

[bronze terrace]

so easily obtainable

[sweet eagle]

I've yet to see a unique drop from hillock

[soft barn]

Check the league too

[bronze terrace]

oh no

well now we know where your luck went tho

[soft barn]

[bronze terrace]

2 T0 drops in 7k hours isnt so bad tbh

[soft barn]

Its fine I make my own luck

I still buy a mageblood every league I play for more than a week

[bronze terrace]

will go for one too this league again

you wanna go exp with ID again?

is it even still profitable?

[soft barn]

I'm not 100% sure what leagues to go

[bronze terrace]

those gateways will open up some nice stuff

[soft barn]

I wanna do breach but everyone is gonna do breach

[bronze terrace]

yeah

[soft barn]

I wanna do essence but lots of people will do essence

[bronze terrace]

esp first week

[soft barn]

Ye

[bronze terrace]

everyone will spam essence

[soft barn]

So I really dont know

[bronze terrace]

its ok you have some time to think about and I will just follow you

[soft barn]

xd

[bronze terrace]

chaos is always nice for exp tho

so maybe just that again

[soft barn]

Chaos?

Oh

Chaos damage

expedition

[bronze terrace]

yeah

I will just return to simus later anyway

[soft barn]

I thought you were meaning a league mechanic called chaos being good for exp-ing xdd

[bronze terrace]

Breachstones will be new exp meta prob or?

[soft barn]

idk, they arent that insane on level 81

and blessings are rarer apparently

[bronze terrace]

is 5ways still viable? or did they kill it in the last months?

[soft barn]

They are fine

I guess that pure stones dont drop a 100% blessing any more

or it would be infinite

Doom blast scales off increased spell damage right?

It has a spell tag

[bronze terrace]

should

[ocean galleon]

Did a bit simus on my lightning strike champ (best char I ever had 🥹 ) a few leagues ago. Super chill, would not mind doing that again for currency at some point

[soft barn]

Rip LS

Got properly GGG'd after like 4 leagues in the sun

[ocean galleon]

Ruined all my next chars by comparison

[bronze terrace]

atleast in POB spell damage scales doom blast

[soft barn]

Yeah its all good then

Ok so I may try to focus a bit more inc spell damage early on then

[bronze terrace]

i did simus for 3 weeks straight I think

easiest money I ever made while watching shows on the side

[soft barn]

I did 4 days of like 19 hours a day expedition to get my mageblood one league

My chair did not smell good after

[bronze terrace]

Grim.

[soft barn]

Pulling in 60ex a day was pretty bing chilling though

[bronze terrace]

thats quite massive indeed

[soft barn]

Most I've ever hardcore farmed, usually I do it more casually over a week

Last two leagues I've made a poggers dude then sold it wholesale for mageblood money plus change

[bronze terrace]

yeah I like selling builds too

[soft barn]

idk if you remember my RF dude I sold for 300 div in kalandra

[bronze terrace]

yeah

[soft barn]

Actually turbo nuts character

[bronze terrace]

my highest selling char was 2 mirrors

I just had 2 mirrors in stash

and quit

[ocean galleon]

Im the worst, I set a goal of like a HH or mageblood (when HH was expensive). Then I no life farm for it, get the currency and then quit since goal is reached

[soft barn]

I did the same the first time I ever sold a build

idk if you remember, but there was a dude that messaged me on the forums of all places to by my intstacker one league

before I knew the TFT channel was a thing

Ended up haggling 3 mirrors for it then gambled them on dumb shit and quit

[bronze terrace]

yeah i remember

[soft barn]

Should have RMT'd them like a sensible person

[ocean galleon]

[bronze terrace]

Good times

mine rot in standard

I think atleast

I did some stupid gamba every end of the league tho so maybe they are gone

[soft barn]

Nico I'm looking at the crit version of ID

Looks good but its such a mess of uniques

You run 1-2 rare items

[bronze terrace]

worst one was divining shakos the league they made it the main currency

[soft barn]

lmao

[bronze terrace]

you have a link?

[soft barn]

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Lelurium/Lulurium?i=0&search=item%3DVixens-Entrapment%2CVoid-Battery

idk how much I like this

[bronze terrace]

wtf

[soft barn]

I'd rather play the apeps version

[bronze terrace]

idk if I like ralakesh

you will always run skin of the lords in both versions iirc

atleast tuna said sth about it too

[soft barn]

Rare chest for a lot of poison cucks

but yeah

I'd run lords

[bronze terrace]

man that version looks wild

[soft barn]

I love atziris reflection

which makes me want to play poison more

[bronze terrace]

shaper of storms is a nice jewel tho

[soft barn]

That works on either setup

[bronze terrace]

yeah

[soft barn]

Also you can run rational doctrine really easy

[bronze terrace]

I have never seen that jewel in my life

[ocean galleon]

Sorry for maybe being a bit slow here.. But Is impending doom and doom blast the same ?
Seems so by looking at poe ninja, but why does it have two names

[bronze terrace]

doom blast is what gets triggered

[ocean galleon]

Ah just got confused since poe ninja lists it as doom blast when hovering over the gem

Does say trigger when looking in the overview. So yeah

[bronze terrace]

Also I am pretty set on starting ID now

[mossy moss]

Never dropped HH, MB, SQUIRE gang

[bronze terrace]

Don’t think anything can change my mind until Friday

[mossy moss]

[ocean galleon]

Also pretty keen on the ID now

[mossy moss]

I've only had krillson in a map

[bronze terrace]

Imagine not getting a mageblood from the wretched

[sweet eagle]

melee gang

[mossy moss]

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

[bronze terrace]

Farming mf tower for hh cards

And the wretched gives me a mb

[ocean galleon]

Same, but I had a Tukohama's Fortress drop waaaay back when it was like 400c

[bronze terrace]

Stonks

[ocean galleon]

That was my unethical peak. Rest have just been good old honest farming

[soft barn]

Nothing will beat my ssf reefbane

[bronze terrace]

I got some 7y of bad luck from simus

[bronze terrace]

Actually true

[ocean galleon]

Need to read up on what you two talked about earlier also. But there is not really any guides yet for it right ?
Think I read tyty will have something on maxroll later tho

[bronze terrace]

Tuna will do the ID guide

And tyty leveling part

But we talked about starting with cold dot into ID

[ocean galleon]

Ah that could be neat. When would you switch to ID ?

[bronze terrace]

act 6 or 7 ig

[ocean galleon]

No biggie

[bronze terrace]

maybe after 2nd lab

cold dot leveling is pretty solid

[ocean galleon]

Yeah requires almost nothing

Was watching a vod of tyty and his ID leveling seemed fine-ish. Just ST was a bit ass

[bronze terrace]

Oh he did already?

Gotta rewatch it

[ocean galleon]

Yeah he did a practice run yesterday or the day before

[bronze terrace]

He started pconc ?

[ocean galleon]

Nope, some chaos skills. Blight into ED/Cont, into Bane and then after first lab he went ID

[bronze terrace]

That does not sound very fun tbh

[ocean galleon]

Yeah been a while since I have seen those being used. Mostly just skipped to the ID part to see how it looked

So not sure if it was ass or not

[bronze terrace]

Best thing would be to test both and decide after

But idk if I can bring myself to two prac runs

[wind rain]

im so hypedddd

[spark needle]

just saw its finished downloading tough choice between yoloing or finishing this video Nico linked

[ocean galleon]

I could see the cold dot angle

[ocean galleon]

I say dig in and mess around

[bronze terrace]

Just yolo a bit

League doesn’t start until Saturday for you anyway

[spark needle]

ye 6am

[bronze terrace]

Damn that’s a nice start time

[spark needle]

[bronze terrace]

It’s 10pm here

[spark needle]

ye 6am kinda pog

wake up straight into it

[wind rain]

pm?

[ocean galleon]

Wake up, close curtains, its gaming time

[wind rain]

o start league

[spark needle]

no meme literally gonna be me

[bronze terrace]

I can’t go too hard this weekend

Some family stuff and maybe having a drink with the lads on Saturday

Also need to hit the gym

[spark needle]

oh shit this video is for crucible too

[bronze terrace]

Ye it’s from this week

[spark needle]

oh ye literally 14h ago lol

[desert cradle]

@spark needle see you at 6am saturday

:ez

get the monsties ready

[spark needle]

dare ice coffee enjoyer personally

[bronze terrace]

A man of class

[royal ermine]

I want ice coffe

[bronze terrace]

Oh and probably the best tip for new players in poe

Stay off the subreddit

[royal ermine]

Yes

Its a cesspool

[sweet eagle]

I'm actually so damn surprised how those redditors talk about e.g how melee is dead or not

but then I remember that the majority of them play trade and haven't even tried SSF

and they whine about the most dumbest thing ever

like the stance dancing adrenaline thing, but then we also have the gain adrenaline when stunned that I haven't seen mentioned once

I'm gonna rock that stun recovery hard

[royal ermine]

Ur rock hard

[bronze terrace]

[sweet eagle]

trying to get my stun duration to 0.2 seconds, but the stun recovery I get from these nodes brings me to 0.19 seconds, even when I removed the brine king stun recovery

fuuuck

the rounding up values are only when it's a percentage value, right?

[bronze terrace]

Why do you need exactly 0.2?

[soft barn]

Yeah I'd do this for sure

Probably taking bloom 2nd

[sweet eagle]

so I can get 4 seconds of adrenaline instead of 2 seconds

[bronze terrace]

Yeah that’s fair

[bronze terrace]

Bloom is just so nice

[sweet eagle]

then + brine king passive, I'm stun immune for 2 seconds

[bronze terrace]

Man your builds are always wild

[sweet eagle]

but I guess it's fine with only 2 seconds of adrenaline

[bronze terrace]

But having 4s with only 0.01 more Stun duration is kinda nice

[sweet eagle]

yeah

I wanted to use the unfaltering stun area

but that apparently makes me stun immune

I assume this means stun immune if it's 0% chance to get stunned

[bronze terrace]

I mean depends on the hit no?