Pants of Exile

[turbid vale]

chris wilson is just a goated tank

literally never loses aggro

its wild

[reef grail]

still shouldve questioned the changes

perhaps

[turbid vale]

ye and the other people shouldve questioned them and not made them as well

almost like multiple people are responsible for this game and its not just chris wilson controlling it entirely

woahhhhh

[reef grail]

so basically GGG as a whole sucks

got it

[turbid vale]

yeah its a much more accurate take to say u dislike what GGG is doing with the game than to put all ur hate on an individual

[sly sentinel]

tbf, the problems i have atm is:
endgame crafting is pretty much dead cuz no reforge keep suffix/prefix
the lake loot is bad, and spending my map swapping tiles around is boring
endgame juicing is dead. there's no point spending currency on your map for multiple mechanics

also beyond is such a cool mechanic with scourge, but the loot is absolutely awful

[turbid vale]

yeah its a bit weird i do think the game is just straight up better with a revert from 3.19

but they did do some thigns in 3.19 with real potential

that being the harvest juice change and the scourge beyond change mostly

[sly sentinel]

i like the idea of the loot from rares, but seeing 20 jewels pop up that i cba to identify or 20 flasks

is also shit

the loot from them needs a rework

[royal ermine]

What not to do
Personal attack on any memeber of the dev, aka chris
what u can do

PLEASE fucking listne

[reef grail]

do the rares drop any gcps

or is it either flasks, whetstones, or 50 divines

[turbid vale]

rares that drop qual gems at least idk if there is direct gcps

that is also deff not the list of things that can drop if thats what u were going for

its like currency, gems, flasks, rares, fractured, jewels, div cards

probs more shit

[reef grail]

but sir thats all Ive seen on reddit!

so that must be all that drops!!!

[sly sentinel]

the jewels one should drop unique jewels more often
the flask one should be removed tbh, it just makes no sense

the currency one needs some sort of built in rarity, cuz 99% of the time its just whetstones

[royal ermine]

Remofve , flask and useless rare, and useless jewels

and replace with something relevente

[turbid vale]

keep them and have them drop IDd, or just keep them in general

[royal ermine]

like idk im so annoyed a tthis league

[turbid vale]

the useless rares is extremely useful early game with chaos recipe

kind of agree with flask point though

[sly sentinel]

yeah, fracture + jewels should really drop identified

[turbid vale]

make the jewels drop corrupted?

[royal ermine]

he want us to not click to much
also GGG
Spawn 20 rares from 1 mob

[turbid vale]

more cb jewels and then they are IDd

[royal ermine]

[sly sentinel]

atleast then i can have my filter look for good mods

[turbid vale]

probs too good to be true but hte jewel rare dropping corrupted wouldbe so goated lmao

[sweet eagle]

fractured mobs imo should always give T1 mods

[sly sentinel]

only things you really look for in fractures are like t1 life, t1 spell suppress or +1 to gems / +1 arrows

rest is pretty meh

[royal ermine]

diablo 4 might come in good place

[turbid vale]

good ring bases with high res/attribute are pretty sick

[sly sentinel]

yeah but i feel like it never drops jewelry

it's usually some kind of armor

[turbid vale]

i really want diablo 4 to be good but man if ur gonna base ur opinio on games on ur faith in a company

[sly sentinel]

or weps

[turbid vale]

ur really gonna side with blizzard over ggg

XDD

relaly i feel like i get jewelry pretty often

[coral pollen]

? The whetstone one is its own thing

[sly sentinel]

yeah i get them 24/7

like every map

[turbid vale]

usually just shit mods and not like "good" jewelry just two stone rings and bone rings and shit

[sly sentinel]

is it?

[coral pollen]

Necromancer is quality currency

[royal ermine]

Like it doesnt fucking matter if the theory says we get more loot it doesnt change the fact it feels so fucking shit

[turbid vale]

i sold a fractured bonering for like 1 div kinda early in the league

[sly sentinel]

idk what ur complaining about

alch and go mapping feels fine

[turbid vale]

yeah

there is an extreme disconnect bettween the doomers and what the actual game is

[sly sentinel]

it's only juicing that feels shit

[turbid vale]

there is a disconnect between gggs plan as well but like

the loot legit feels fine when ur in t14+s

altars are legit just so good still

[royal ermine]

in the past I dont just alch and go so its w /e i guess. we better get used to this shit

[sly sentinel]

since when did you juice

can't you just do blight

as usual

[turbid vale]

the league before i started playing u farmed hh and people memed on u for like farming it extremely slowly

and hten every league since then i dont think i've seen you on a 90+ character and its all just memes about how bad ur builds are in here and dying to white maps and shit

[royal ermine]

can u honeslty say that
alch and go find a rare
call in a mf culler pay him then let him kill it , get the loot is good gamepaly

[sullen tiger]

dont think he ever did

[royal ermine]

its stupid

[sly sentinel]

ultimatum league, good times

[turbid vale]

ppl just meme on dabbi for no reason ofc but ive deff never seen dabbi talking with us about juicing

[sullen tiger]

bro ultimatum

[sly sentinel]

took dabbi 4 weeks to get HH

[sullen tiger]

[sly sentinel]

and then he made hh cyclone build with 50k dps

[sullen tiger]

[turbid vale]

bro ur just adding in this third line bc u read it on reddit

u don tneed to actually do that lmao

[sly sentinel]

i tried aurabot + mf gameplay in ultimatum

and everyone in here lost their shit

[turbid vale]

legit just alch and go and click altars and kill mobs with the "cant use scarabs" atlas tree node

[royal ermine]

I did small juice cause its no need to talk about it

[turbid vale]

u will make good money still

[sly sentinel]

people were like "omg u play with aurabot? thats so cringe"

[turbid vale]

aura bot is cringe thats correct

[royal ermine]

But ye we are wrong chris is right

clearl

[sly sentinel]

when it was just me and a friend dicking around

[turbid vale]

that being said i am down to group play

[sly sentinel]

we had never done any mf gameplay, so i went TS + full MF gear and he went aura bot

[royal ermine]

if I wanted diablo loot I'd play dialblo not poe

[sly sentinel]

and we tried it for a couple of days

[stoic agate]

https://imgur.com/a/Fdu6G58 am i pogging yet?

[turbid vale]

next league just block reddit from ur pc

and just q it up and play the game

[sly sentinel]

i like reddit, as much as there is whining, there is a few valid points every league

that usually get's fixed as a result

good examples are the absolute shit loot at the start of scourge

that got buffed massively and ended up being really good

[turbid vale]

ye but also in scourge

me playing a good build not dying ever or having many issues

reddit constant threads about how they cant survive swapping into scourge realm

and how its overtuned

[stoic agate]

@mossy moss https://imgur.com/a/Fdu6G58

[sly sentinel]

yeah i played bow and just killed everything lol

[sly sentinel]

tbh, i miss recombinators so fking much

[stoic agate]

[sly sentinel]

they were so fun to use

[turbid vale]

ye i was saying to another friend i think they need to make more leagues like scourge/sentinel i think its a sick way to go about it

just 1 off cool thing that changes crafting

and also adds quick juice to map

[coral pollen]

Wasn't it just that one mob that was op

That onetaps you

[sly sentinel]

yeah atm we just go into a lake every now and then or we click on a tablet

there's nothing else

no krangling

[turbid vale]

no clue i legit never had issues with dying in scourge and yet there was like 10000 reddit threads about it

[sly sentinel]

no recombinators

[turbid vale]

but ye i think its neat when like even if its kinda op or kinda underwhelming but just gives a new way to craft items, lets people discover cool ways to use it

probably shouldnt even stay in the game but just adds cool spioce to that

[sullen tiger]

youre so poggers king

[sly sentinel]

don't wanna sound like a doomer, but just mechanic wise, lake of kalandra is at the bottom of my list

it's worse than heist, and that says a lot for me

[turbid vale]

its probably same tier as AN to me

[sly sentinel]

i like AN more

ngl

[turbid vale]

probably higher actually i really hated AN

[mossy moss]

holy shit bro ur massive

[sly sentinel]

i liked the loot explosions you could make with them

[stoic agate]

[turbid vale]

yeah the loot was cool for sure, it was rewarding to spend the time crafting an op rare

[royal ermine]

ael is gonna make giga build now

[turbid vale]

but i just did not enjoy the storage system or the crafting system

[stoic agate]

i can afford my aegis

[sly sentinel]

i just like mechanics where we get to engage with it every map without spending a ton of time

breach, legion, sentinel etc

are good examples

[turbid vale]

sentinel without recombinators would have been an extremely boring league but yeah i do generally agree

[coral pollen]

Eh conceptually I like lake more than archnem

[sly sentinel]

the actual lake is fine

i don't mind being in the lake

i just despise putting it together

also as much as i like ultimatum, i did have a problem with it back in ultimatum league

[turbid vale]

]

[sly sentinel]

and that was that it took so fking long

[turbid vale]

i love seein a random darkee comment making fun of a doomer

[sly sentinel]

going 9 waves every single map became a bit too much

[turbid vale]

yeah also just hated the stand in stones thingy

[royal ermine]

@stoic agate i found a rare

[sly sentinel]

wait u played ultimatum?

[royal ermine]

time to gamba

[turbid vale]

between ultimatum and nem 3 though my god did we have stupid amounts of small currencies that league

yeah it was my first real league

[sly sentinel]

u said u started after dabbi farmed HH

[turbid vale]

i played cold dot vortex to 96 and made probably 20 ex the entire league

[sly sentinel]

his HH was ultimatum league

[turbid vale]

i dont think i talked in here

[sly sentinel]

o

[turbid vale]

or if i did not as much anyways

i legit didnt have pob downloaded and just followed some cold dot forum guide

[sly sentinel]

i got a mirror shard from ultimatum

[turbid vale]

i got a 5x ex stack on like day 5 or something

which was the currency i'd make in like a week that league with how noob i was

[sly sentinel]

also got mirror shard in uhm

AN i think

from harbinger

[coral pollen]

o hey I hit some random jackpot rare ig

[turbid vale]

first atlas expansion league u and xvz both got from harb didnt u

[coral pollen]

2 divines

[sly sentinel]

ye

i was popping off in AN with deli mirror farming on my cf build

had HH like a week into the league which was pretty nuts for me

made like 140 ex in a weekend

[turbid vale]

for me it was like popped off pretty well with cf/exsang in scourge with mirror farming then AN i played poison LS and had some big PC issues

basically couldnt do deli at all and was very sad about it

[sly sentinel]

yeah and sentinel i couldn't do it

cuz i needed IL to do deli mirrors

[turbid vale]

also in scourge simus were selling 2.5 ex in bulk

[sacred lily]

first orb, im gaming

second base is ready

we doing it live

[turbid vale]

vs like what . 7ex post atlas expansion

[sly sentinel]

even at 0.7 i made so much money

[turbid vale]

ye ofc but imagine at 2.5 xd

[sacred lily]

and I alt+regalled into that warlord base

[turbid vale]

2.5 ex and still doing the divine 6l strat

[sacred lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721854499005923369/1013562084128210984/unknown.png

[sly sentinel]

my cf build got hard carried by the rares + IL, so when they removed all the rare mods in sentinel i was fked

[sacred lily]

if i can get the chaos base ready and woke orb them i got a 60 div helmet

[sly sentinel]

couldn't do it again

[turbid vale]

i was thinking about making a cf champ but on raider next league

[sly sentinel]

cf CHAMP on raider

[sweet eagle]

I'm getting cucked atm by fucking magma balls and chaos balls flying towards me

[turbid vale]

yeah ofc

[sweet eagle]

really wanna get a judgment warstaff going so I can get my spellblock back

[turbid vale]

point of saying it like that is so u understand the concept would be doing what rue did with cf champ so, like those bleed pop gloves

rather than if i said cf glad or just cf it would be less descriptive

[sly sentinel]

hope it turns out better than awaken's build

[turbid vale]

idea would just be i get to enjoy early league zoom of cf + i get to be raider which i just like a lot personally

[sly sentinel]

i imagine CF must have been fking terrible this league

with how tanky mobs were

[turbid vale]

idk maybe

think that build is just too fast and tanky and pops are too fun it would just outweigh some tanky mobs

[sly sentinel]

grimro spent like a good 5 seconds on the map bosses even when he had mageblood

[turbid vale]

ye thats alright though

i ran some t16s in standard with my budget cf guy from end of AN and it was so fun still

[sullen tiger]

patch gets pushed soon right

[turbid vale]

pretty sure kb cf is just so good that it should work on raider and itll just be a bit less efficient but then i can have fun farming maps on that and then be a raider to play w/e other skill looks fun

im just a raider one trick

[sweet eagle]

marauder gang

[turbid vale]

o wow look all these guys do cf on pathfinder that must be a cool build!

[coral pollen]

have you seen what happens when you select cf for scion

it's some like cwc ball lightning cf build

[sly sentinel]

poe probably has the most streamer drama out of any game i've seen

there's so many streamers who shit talk and hate each other

[coral pollen]

[sly sentinel]

ruetoo has to be the biggest dramacreater in poe aswell

[sacred lily]

i did it gamers

my str stacking vg zerker is gonna pump

who said crafting was dead

[sly sentinel]

you slammed items and orbs together, i bet chris is pretty happy rn

[sacred lily]

and got lucky on every try, but you know

luck is earned

[sly sentinel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/x05dq4/psa_gwennen_heavily_nerfed_in_319/

they even nerfed gwennen this league

chance of a gwennen mageblood is about 1 in 20k

[royal ermine]

@sly sentinelthey might as well remove loot all toghter now

[sweet eagle]

I should probably change my infernal cry setup and implement rarity now when I think about it

[coral pollen]

anything weird about this?

[sweet eagle]

it's empty?

flasks usually are full

[turbid vale]

really i feel like poe has nearly no drama

thought the whole rue/pathofmath thing was like uncharacteristic

[sly sentinel]

they're empty if they are in your inventory

[sly sentinel]

fyregrass tho

[turbid vale]

what about him

[sly sentinel]

well according to him he's been bullied and named called for 9 months by streamers

[sweet eagle]

[sly sentinel]

[coral pollen]

*unequipped

[turbid vale]

ye i mean he has gotten undeserved hate but i dont exactly consider that streamer drama

[coral pollen]

but anyway the flask was mirrored

lmao

[sweet eagle]

didn't even know flasks could be mirrored

wth

[coral pollen]

yeah it dropped off an archnem

[sly sentinel]

i've never looked at the actual icon inside the flask so i wouldn't know

[turbid vale]

i will say of all the multiplayer games ive played i think the only one with less drama is tft

wow pve and pvp, league, cod, apex, all tons and tons more drama

[sly sentinel]

wow classic doesn't have that much drama

[royal ermine]

cause GGG normaly is listning and communicating with the community and playerbase is nice

Last time I saw an angry playerbase was during expiditon

[sly sentinel]

GGG communcation is nothing compared to a certain game

1 company and game stands out in terms of that, and no game comes even close

which is Jagex with OSRS

[turbid vale]

riot most definitely has equal or better communication compared to ggg with tft and league

not entirely sure about runeterra or valorant but ye

[royal ermine]

and when u pissing off a community u held for years by remoivng something we enjoy

[turbid vale]

ggg goes silent for months in the more dead time of the league and league/tft dont really have dead time ever so its slightly hard to compare

[royal ermine]

Take away the drug from a drug addict and he will ree

[sly sentinel]

jagex has a few devs that answer nearly every question you tweet at them, and on reddit if something gets attention, it always gets answered

[turbid vale]

yeah head dev of tft posts a review of each patch (2 week cycle system) and then a video explaining all their changes for the coming patch, also does qna streams for like 8 hours nearly every saturday adn sunday

[royal ermine]

I personaly havent feelt that dopamin kick that much this league compared to others

[turbid vale]

head dev of tft is so committed he used riots week vacation over christmas to grind challenger 1k lp in tft

[coral pollen]

have any of you ever fought a 4 mod god molested living azurite

cuz

[sly sentinel]

the worst game

[coral pollen]

if u have shit dps

[sly sentinel]

in terms of communication

10000000000%

[turbid vale]

world of warcraft

[sly sentinel]

is Black Desert Online

jesus

christ

[royal ermine]

dont remind me

[sly sentinel]

@coral pollen can confirm this

[royal ermine]

i no lifed it

got to like 61

[sly sentinel]

no lifed it

i have 300b on bdo

almost full pen

[coral pollen]

[royal ermine]

gearing in bdo

is hte wosrt ever made

[coral pollen]

helped that this mfer basically hit a mirror

in bdo terms

[sly sentinel]

get gud

50/50

you either hit it or you don't

[coral pollen]

random person: explain why you think loot is shit this league

[royal ermine]

Biggest fault with poe atm is the loot preception

[coral pollen]

this guy:

[royal ermine]

which sucks

[coral pollen]

just give me back ref keeps and old ref more likely

[royal ermine]

Like it might be true we get better loot now but it doesnt feel great

which is the bigges isssue

im off now

[stoic agate]

Gnight fren

[mossy moss]

Off da perc

[sullen tiger]

bro wait

that post made it to starboard

[sly sentinel]

pathofmath made a vid about his ban and blamed other streamers like ruetoo for being toxic to him which pushed him over the edge making him say what he said

[sullen tiger]

poe in starboard fucking

[reef grail]

we made it

[sullen tiger]

the time of our tism has arrived for the rest of tsl to see

[reef grail]

Just as the Lord designed

[sullen tiger]

[reef grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKDBsqhPyKM

[coral pollen]

well that was a dogshit first delve architect

was hoping for the new trialmaster fragment at least

[gusty vessel]

Fragment?

[coral pollen]

yeah

u know the trialmaster unique map that came out

it has 4 frags and is assembled like a harby item

[gusty vessel]

Ooooh

Okay

[sullen tiger]

[gusty vessel]

I thought it was just the map

[coral pollen]

vaal temple, delve architect, uber atziri, and incursion architect

[sly sentinel]

[coral pollen]

he's on a different path of exile now

[sweet eagle]

he is literally path of exile now

breach in the lake is bonkers

[turbid vale]

yeah the 1 time i had that it killed me instantly

[sullen tiger]

idk if it was talked abt already

but this new pom video

watching quin listen to it

this man is fuckin insanecat

[stiff pagoda]

Patch out today right?

It's Monday morning here

[sullen tiger]

maybe we'll see

[turbid vale]

poRn?

[sullen tiger]

[reef grail]

@stoic agate mathils playing reave

[minor swallow]

he didnt ask

[reef grail]

but ael loves reave

shut up

[soft barn]

One more to go

[stiff pagoda]

Holy shit shooty

Impressive af

[soft barn]

They dont call me pog dave for nothing

for real though the uber bosses are gonna suck

I have like 5m dps so unless I make some big upgrades I need to learn the fights properly

Cant zerg them on 50m VLS this time

[stiff pagoda]

Remember, if you have hand-me-down VLS gear you CBF selling

I'm your guy

[sullen tiger]

@soft barn what is the diff between t1/2/3 wings

show

this will probably determine my interest in challenges this league

[soft barn]

More "leafs" on them

[sullen tiger]

hm

[soft barn]

Like the T3 ones have 3 sets that go all down your back and look poggers

[sullen tiger]

maybe i go t2 and chill

[soft barn]

T3 at min I'd say

Looks so much nicer than T2

[sullen tiger]

[sullen tiger]

fuck

[soft barn]

I have no idea what T4 is

But tomorrow when I kill deeze bosses I'll know

[sullen tiger]

https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1564097229128093696?s=20&t=0pBnRq7LbbT3gULE57GZ-A

Path of Exile (@pathofexile)

We're in the process of deploying the 3.19.0f update which introduces reductions to defensive Archnemesis modifiers, and also includes a few improvements to the Kalandra League. Check out the full patch notes in today's post.

https://t.co/qjH6H0AzYE

Twitter · Aug 29, 2022, 3:46 AM

[minor swallow]

saved?

[sullen tiger]

idk lake changes kinda suck

tbh

[stiff pagoda]

Didn't revert loot

Kekw

My hope is finally killed

Oh well got wotlk this week

[stoic agate]

Dunno why they would revert the loot changes if its what they wanted

[stiff pagoda]

Said they would listen to feedback

I believed them like a dummy

[stoic agate]

[bronze terrace]

Think I’m gonna sell my VG gear and do sth else

Maybe sth with bow

Don’t need to to juice anyway

[sullen tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938231642529595413/1013683906446364732/unknown.png

[mossy moss]

[stiff pagoda]

[mossy moss]

ofc the servers are offline right when i sit down at pc

[sullen tiger]

they had to re shut them down cause of some problem with challenge progress

[bronze terrace]

god I love people selling builds on tft setting pob to no boss

[mossy moss]

[sly sentinel]

their item breakdowns are usually also so shit

[bronze terrace]

yes

[sly sentinel]

feel like everyone adds a divine or two to different lines just cuz they can

[bronze terrace]

someone listed his claw for 10 div which is worse than mine

which I valued at 1.5

[sullen tiger]

buying builds

[bronze terrace]

I am looking at VG builds to price mine atm

listed this as 10 div

[sly sentinel]

man that claw is shit

[bronze terrace]

yes

[sly sentinel]

that would have been good about 7 days ago

[bronze terrace]

https://pastebin.com/DwUfGjLC

wants 50div for it

[royal ermine]

Servers up?

[bronze terrace]

no

up

[mossy moss]

LOGIN LOGIN LOGIN LOGIN

[sullen tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-login-play-poe-login-gif-26508840

[sly sentinel]

someone linked me this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VakjZqso8Ik

[royal ermine]

@mossy moss severs up?

[sly sentinel]

u srs? just scroll up

[mossy moss]

its me

[sly sentinel]

[sullen tiger]

maybe i get divine drops if i bless him with a throne

[sly sentinel]

mageblood div card now also drops in Defiled Cathedral

[sullen tiger]

can anyone craft ele ail avoid pre to chest

[bronze terrace]

no sry

did someone try simu yet?

[sly sentinel]

i would get clapped if i entered sims

atleast in 20+

[bronze terrace]

same probably

I will try one

I think I need a hh tho

to comfy do iti

[royal ermine]

Fuck off I just woke up

[bronze terrace]

the thing is simus should be bad

bc loot comes from AN rares directly

[sly sentinel]

but the simus loot comes from the deli rewards things

so it should be totally unaffected by all the changes

[bronze terrace]

yeah fair point

[sly sentinel]

sims should be really good this league

less ppl can do it cuz of nerfs

shit in general is a bit cheaper cuz currency is harder to get

and sims are unaffected

[royal ermine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKDBsqhPyKM&t=47s

[sly sentinel]

assuming you can do it

[royal ermine]

I wish I could call him the R word here

[royal ermine]

based

[bronze terrace]

I will tell you soon

wave 20 now

[sly sentinel]

you listed ur build for 85 div? that's pushing it isn't it

[bronze terrace]

a bit

but not much and everybody selling their dogshit builds for 50 div

yeah ok neg chaos res just fucks me

wave 24 hmm

why tf is hh 100 div

[royal ermine]

i hope that pathofmath never gets unbanned

[sullen tiger]

i hope u make it to endgame

[royal ermine]

[bronze terrace]

sold it for 85 @sly sentinel

[sly sentinel]

wtf

[royal ermine]

nico scamming tft

smh

[sly sentinel]

poor guy

bought 85 div build that can't even clear sims

[royal ermine]

jesus this math guy is cringe af

[sacred lily]

yo dabbi

wanna get rich quick?

farm fossils in delve

because holy shit

serrated fossils went for 10c per in bulk ytd

and there were barely any on the market

[bronze terrace]

[royal ermine]

nice

[bronze terrace]

ok what build do I do know

[bronze terrace]

have ~ 100 div

[sacred lily]

[bronze terrace]

wanna kys out of boredom real quick?

farm delve

[sacred lily]

dabbi is an autist, he doesn't care about boredom

he just wants cash

and he can't swipe for it

[bronze terrace]

true

[royal ermine]

i like delve just nevver foundd it profitable

[bronze terrace]

it is now

do it

[royal ermine]

before the new atlas I did like 1k delve every league

[bronze terrace]

you know what also works? selling your build for 85 div on tft

[royal ermine]

me and @cerulean shell are real delve enjoyers

[bronze terrace]

my deadeye was way tankier than those str stacker VG that are sold

[royal ermine]

i wonder if ggg fixed minions dying yet

lmao math says he didnt staff abuse

[sly sentinel]

i guess the best build for sims atm is like

coc forbidden rite

[bronze terrace]

yeah with 300div invest

there are way better sim builds than coc fr on low budget

[sly sentinel]

it needs that much?

[bronze terrace]

yes

i wouldnt even start coc fr under 100

[sly sentinel]

lmao

no

if u wanna go TS just do my build

[royal ermine]

are ppl actually falling for pathofmath bullshit

[bronze terrace]

https://pastebin.com/Mqy3x3iN that looks ok tho

[sullen tiger]

[stiff pagoda]

he sounds like a psychopathy

[bronze terrace]

the gull and soulthirst

[sly sentinel]

1m dps with 250 soul eater stacks?

ok

[bronze terrace]

i dont even know what you doing atm

[stiff pagoda]

"i had to make another account and post as im a different person or nobody would believe me"

[sly sentinel]

i tagged u in a bunch of vids

[bronze terrace]

oh really

[turbid vale]

can someone post me the path of math using a 2nd account stuff

[turbid vale]

sounds funny

[bronze terrace]

i mean I saw your videos of clearing

but no build guide or sth

[sly sentinel]

well ye i made it myself

[bronze terrace]

[sly sentinel]

it's good for mapping or juicing

but don't expect to do uber bosses or sims

[bronze terrace]

ah a good build

[sly sentinel]

i die less than my VG build

tbf

i would have leveled if i didn't do all the legion juicing

[bronze terrace]

I was at 50% on lvl 96 until I tried the simu

[royal ermine]

math was perma banned right?

[sly sentinel]

i improved dps by like 30%

after this clip

can kill exarch in like 5-10 seconds now if i hold RMB and pray

[bronze terrace]

yeah looks nice

idk if I wanna map or do a simu char next tho

not even sure if I can make one able to do wave 30 with my budget

[sly sentinel]

i would do sims

juicing is pretty dead atm

it's mostly alch and go

[bronze terrace]

yeah exactly

[turbid vale]

spark time

[bronze terrace]

simus are not the best profit probably but steady income

[turbid vale]

u probs want to stay ranger though

[bronze terrace]

would be nice but if I have to I will level again I guess

[turbid vale]

why are ur ballistas books

[gusty vessel]

Mtx

[sly sentinel]

not sure if he can stay ranger if he wanna do sims

[turbid vale]

books cant shoot arrows

[sly sentinel]

atleast on his budget

[turbid vale]

depends on his budget

i did quite a few deathless sims as a ranger last league

i might have been wearing forbidden belt though

[sly sentinel]

didnt u have 300 ex budget then

[turbid vale]

more than that

[sly sentinel]

if i had that much

i would go coc fr

and just afk

watch a movie while holding RMB

[turbid vale]

probably mageblood + slightly more than a second mageblood in ls gear

[bronze terrace]

yeah my 500ex ls raider could do sims too

150 div, TS simu 30 farmer

ok

[turbid vale]

ye problem for me was that i didnt want to sell my LS build but it would've been cool to sell that character and try some high end other builds

i am glad i kept that LS guy in the end i love that character

[bronze terrace]

tbf my bv guy was way cheaper and could easily do sims

but that was partly bc of hh

[sly sentinel]

this guy

i don't think he realizes how much it takes for TS to do sims

[bronze terrace]

?

i literally just posted that

2 min ago

[sly sentinel]

oh i wasnt in this chat

lol

i was scrolling through tft

[turbid vale]

time to log on my shitty delver

[bronze terrace]

[turbid vale]

what a weird league for me

still getting decent hours played but i thinkj my networth is like 12 div

[sly sentinel]

its rough

ggg taking our jobs

[bronze terrace]

sus

[sly sentinel]

dont go ls

[turbid vale]

my week 1 snapshot last league

vs this league not even on poe ninja

holy heggg

[royal ermine]

u going to 100?

[sly sentinel]

day 6 last league

[bronze terrace]

nah I wont

[turbid vale]

not this league no

last league i did go to 100 though yes

[sly sentinel]

anyone heard that defiled cathedral now drops the apothecary card

[bronze terrace]

Yea someone said it on stream and you posted it earlier

[royal ermine]

im aiming 95 on this bv

[bronze terrace]

[sly sentinel]

i like that map more than crimson temple atleast

[turbid vale]

i think my league is cooked unless someone quits and donates me like 50 divines

i mean im still just gonna do random delving for fun on this helix guy i made probably

but still

[sly sentinel]

yeah idk what to do atm

[turbid vale]

cant believe i had like a 100 div build at this point last league

did not realize how heckin poor i was

[sly sentinel]

dont wanna map cuz i can't juice and no build i can really do sims on

[bronze terrace]

It’s tough

[turbid vale]

join me in the mines brother

[sly sentinel]

ive never done delve

[turbid vale]

nows the time

[bronze terrace]

Is the meta still glass cannon delve?

[sly sentinel]

i've tried a couple of times but i just quit

[turbid vale]

nah

[bronze terrace]

Shuddies build would probably work for that

Ah ok

[turbid vale]

when they reworked delve a couple leagues ago its not been glass cannon

[sly sentinel]

what makes u think im a glass cannon

[turbid vale]

not even sure whats best

[sly sentinel]

[turbid vale]

o

i know the answer to that one

[sly sentinel]

my build is actually pretty tanky ngl

[bronze terrace]

Your pob

[sly sentinel]

i could go level that character rn

[royal ermine]

this guyt who bought 2 of my fossils

[sly sentinel]

with no problems

[royal ermine]

radnomly started zooming my acts

[sly sentinel]

i put in the portal when i made it

i don't actually need it

[bronze terrace]

You have 30k eHP or sth

[sly sentinel]

yeah and 80% evasion?

and spell suppress capped?

[bronze terrace]

Ok that is considered for eHP

[sly sentinel]

w.e

[turbid vale]

max hit doesnt consider evasion but ehp does ye

[bronze terrace]

You just don’t die bc you kill stuff fast

Thats a Glass cannon for me

[sly sentinel]

na

i still tank legion general hits etc no problem, or boss hits

aslong as it doesnt one shot you, you just heal it back up

[turbid vale]

what cool trash

[sly sentinel]

bow builds doesn't need to be tanky at all cuz of the clear

[cerulean shell]

Dont talk to me, minion cuck

[sly sentinel]

also this build is around the same tankyness as my omnishot last league

[bronze terrace]

Yeah and I didn’t think it was tanky either

But yeah ofc you don’t need as much def as a melee char

[turbid vale]

dude im speccing the delve nodes on tree right now

this is kinda weird

[sly sentinel]

well if u compare it to ls shit then ofc it's not tanky, but those builds stand in melee and facetank

[bronze terrace]

Yeah exactly

Can’t really compare

[sly sentinel]

yeah there's no point comparing it

cuz they do different things

[bronze terrace]

Glad we agree

[turbid vale]

if ur build is tanky u will level

good enough metric for me

[sly sentinel]

not if i dont map

if i wanted to i could hit 98 today on that character

[royal ermine]

[sly sentinel]

probably die 0 times on the way there

[bronze terrace]

Depends what you do also

[turbid vale]

i dont think so what u do just slides the scale of what is meant by tankiness

[bronze terrace]

I do occasionally die to sims even with tanky chars or I could 0 death map

[sly sentinel]

only reason i didn't level is cuz i was doing maps with 4 legions and the splinter sextant for double hp

[bronze terrace]

Fair point

[turbid vale]

only reason u dont level is dying or not playing the game, so if ur playing the game and not leveling then ur build isnt tanky

[bronze terrace]

Yeah true it’s more a matter of tanky for what you do

If you only map tankyness can be defined different

[turbid vale]

ye could say tanky enough or something

[sly sentinel]

if you measure by alch and go t16 maps

my build will never die

[turbid vale]

everyone is pretty tanky to t16 white maps

[sly sentinel]

or slight juice

[bronze terrace]

[turbid vale]

my personal measure for tankiness is probably "tanky enough to hit level 100 spamming deli mirror maps"

[bronze terrace]

Not dabbis ward loop last league

[sly sentinel]

except if u play something tanky

it's usually slow

and boring

[royal ermine]

bully

[turbid vale]

sure if ur bad

[bronze terrace]

My int Stack flicker

[turbid vale]

just watch darkee play poe to realize that perspective is wrong

[bronze terrace]

Was so good

[turbid vale]

that dude hits 100 in hardcore while zooming

[bronze terrace]

But I can’t do it with 100 div budget rn

[sly sentinel]

zooming on helix

[turbid vale]

🤷‍♂️

obvs not helix but he played spark and ls last league as well

[sly sentinel]

i said boring, not bad

[turbid vale]

toxic rain before that

not like he only plays slow builds like helix

so again

i know u said boring

and that is wrong

[sly sentinel]

that's subjective

[turbid vale]

o ok

u think ls and spark are boring skills i guess thats fair

[bronze terrace]

He did play vg deadeye too

[sly sentinel]

i do find ls boring yes

[turbid vale]

mhm

[bronze terrace]

Blocked by Blake

[sullen tiger]

[sly sentinel]

there's a reason i've never gone full out on a ls build the past leagues even tho ls is in a league of its own

[turbid vale]

ppl play really tanky bv and stuff too, its just definitely super wrong to think tanky in poe = boring when its really way more commonly well rounded and well built

[royal ermine]

everyonne hates my builds

[turbid vale]

outside of helix there is not very many popular skills that boring would describe very well

oh good point dabbi

minions are boring

[bronze terrace]

[sullen tiger]

omega fucking boring

[turbid vale]

ward loop is cool though

[sly sentinel]

being tanky these days are truly fucked anyway

the difference in what a build needs to be tanky now

[desert cradle]

minions is legit walking simulator

[sly sentinel]

compared to a few leagues ago

is so fking dumb

GGG makes it so you need to use all your mana on defensive auras unless high budget

so you're left with a few skills that can have high enough dmg on its own

to not need dmg auras

[royal ermine]

wtf

[desert cradle]

i miss using all dps auras

[sly sentinel]

and it makes the meta so fking bad

[desert cradle]

[royal ermine]

this guy just zooming my acts

[cerulean shell]

Real men play selfcast freezing pulse.

[mossy moss]

DabbiLoop ™️

he kept dying in white maps in a loop

[royal ermine]

[bronze terrace]

ong

[royal ermine]

wdym

it was red

[turbid vale]

ngl i think most offensive auras are just as boring as the major defensives auras

[sly sentinel]

that's not the point

[cerulean shell]

Sikte knows freezing pulse hidden tech.

[turbid vale]

the cool auras are stuff like the heralds, tempest shield, the purities, arctic armor

[bronze terrace]

White mob in red map

[cerulean shell]

[desert cradle]

wdym heralds are banger

big EXPLOSIONS

[sullen tiger]

[sly sentinel]

dmg auras give you actual dmg, so it makes less dmg skills viable

[turbid vale]

the builds ive played heralds are not* * very good damage auras, but very good cosmetic auras

[sly sentinel]

but not being able to use them, you're limited af

[royal ermine]

@mossy moss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBhDKELTCFs new crest

[sullen tiger]

shut up dabbi

[cerulean shell]

@sullen tiger poe date today?

[sullen tiger]

um

maybe

when u get off

[turbid vale]

ye idk i dont see why dmg auras should be relied upon to make weak skills better

just buff the weak skills and then let utility auras be the meta

sounds way better to me

[sly sentinel]

tell that to GGG

[sullen tiger]

@turbid vale have u done jun this league at all

[turbid vale]

not much like 5 maps a bit ago

[sly sentinel]

The builds we've had since scourge until now is by far the worst build meta ever

[cerulean shell]

In like ~3h and 40min

[sly sentinel]

it's been the same shit every league

except a bit nerfed everytime

it's so dumb

[cerulean shell]

+30min drive to home

[sullen tiger]

might not be there for it idunno

would have to go to bedn ow and get up early

[cerulean shell]

Do it

Wake up early = more time to game

[royal ermine]

its big ggamer move

[cerulean shell]

Shut up

[sullen tiger]

shut up

[turbid vale]

shut up

[bronze terrace]

Costs 75 but I can do 30

[cerulean shell]

Real merchant

[turbid vale]

i was watching doublelift play crackling lance

looked kinda lit

[bronze terrace]

Perfect negotiator

[cerulean shell]

I want 50 but can do 10

[royal ermine]

i want 100 but can do 5

[cerulean shell]

[turbid vale]

nico buy me that crackling lance its my birthday in 10 months

[cerulean shell]

Ok

Ssf thou

[sly sentinel]

these CWDT builds are pretty cracked

[bronze terrace]

Only if he can give discount

[cerulean shell]

Youre crancked

[turbid vale]

honey made one of those last league pretty sure

[sullen tiger]

cwdt fr

ruyetoos

was poggies actually

[royal ermine]

guys

im quitting poe for diablo immortal

[bronze terrace]

Only if you leave chat

[sullen tiger]

hold on i need to ask siri who asked

[cerulean shell]

Me

[sullen tiger]

she couldnt find anyone

[royal ermine]

QUESTION
gigaa chad asked

[turbid vale]

rip bozo u will not be missed

[cerulean shell]

Shut up

[bronze terrace]

You saw this one?

[sly sentinel]

ye

looks slow tho, so i guess its mostly a bosser

[royal ermine]

@turbid vale send me ur biggerst poe music banger whjen u farm

[bronze terrace]

I could actually buy that

But idk doesn’t seem super fun

[turbid vale]

bro i just go to suicide sheep and make a radio off some song on youtube music

[bronze terrace]

I don’t think I find sth I like for my budget honestly

[sly sentinel]

not for sims

[royal ermine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9qf2M4boWk&list=RDQ9qf2M4boWk&start_radio=1 mine atm

[turbid vale]

surely u can make a doryanis flicker strike for ur budget

some fatty lake rings

[sullen tiger]

@mossy moss will it ever end

[sly sentinel]

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/전역희망자/티라노는정말공룡의왕일까?i=8&search=item%3DDoryanis-Prototype%26sort%3Ddps

[royal ermine]

I’m trynna chase these goals, no
Chase these goals, no-oh, no-oh
I’m trynna get to know myself
I got these issues that I can’t control
No, I can’t control, no-oh, no-oh
Lately it feels like I’m in hell
I’m by myself
I’m trynna chase these goals, no
Chase these goals, no-oh, no-oh

[bronze terrace]

Isn’t doryanis alone 20 div or sth

[turbid vale]

fuck if i know

[sly sentinel]

its 3 divines

[bronze terrace]

Oh ok

[sly sentinel]

9 for 6 link

[bronze terrace]

Hm I could try to do that ye

[turbid vale]

ok so here is the plan

[sly sentinel]

that 40m dps flicker build

looks cracked

[turbid vale]

u buy a doryanis flicker strike

[mossy moss]

shut up man

[turbid vale]

then when ur busy or at work or dont want to play u send it to me

[sly sentinel]

its even a raider

[bronze terrace]

Yeah looks really good

[turbid vale]

and i give u 20% of my profits

🤝

[bronze terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/tradeoffer-gif-25994298

[turbid vale]

me bradeezy yes

[sly sentinel]

it has uul tho

which is 20 divines

[turbid vale]

jsut let me trim ur armor bro

[bronze terrace]

I mean I have like 100 plus maybe 10-12 in sales

I could make it work maybe

[bronze terrace]

Didn’t see any on sale yet so I would have to build myself

[sly sentinel]

i don't see why not

[turbid vale]

[sly sentinel]

i would notepad it first tho

look at the guys build, check prices

see what you end up with

[turbid vale]

maybe if i somehow make 50 div or so in my cozy delving i will be able to make my own

[bronze terrace]

Which is even a more relaxing build to farm simus with shuddie

Coc fr wasn’t even close to as comfy as the doryanis flicker

[sly sentinel]

i've never tried flicker

i dont mind trying that

[royal ermine]

STOMP DOWN KILLAZ

[sly sentinel]

calculate his cost

then tell us

[bronze terrace]

yeah I will tonight

gotta work

i just noticed

when I watched my video of the flicker strike that I played with screen shake

thats so aids lmao

[sly sentinel]

does flicker care about the weapon type

aslong as its 1h

[bronze terrace]

oh god my dmg was so bad tho

10m dps kosis wave 30 took forever

[turbid vale]

not sure if flicker cares , i know ive seen claws and swords

[bronze terrace]

yeah doesnt care

[sly sentinel]

just attack speed?

[bronze terrace]

i had HoWA

[sly sentinel]

wtf is a howa

[turbid vale]

i always see flickers using that syndicate wep

[bronze terrace]

https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Hand_of_Wisdom_and_Action

[sly sentinel]

don't u want this implicit tho

[bronze terrace]

paradoxica

but only the frenzy stacker ones

[turbid vale]

dont think all flickers are int stackers

[bronze terrace]

not the int stacker ones

[sly sentinel]

they're not ye

[bronze terrace]

yeah thats gonna be expensive

[sly sentinel]

6-10 divines seems like

[bronze terrace]

why does pob say using howa doesnt work

flicker just wants melee weapon

[sly sentinel]

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/rav3nspirit/Chujavec?i=1&search=skill%3DFlicker-Strike%26item%3DDoryanis-Prototype%26sort%3Ddps

this looks a little more affordable

[turbid vale]

flicker builds are probably on avg the most degenerate/expensive of almost any skill i swear

[sly sentinel]

also higher ES

[bronze terrace]

thats actually crazy man

my build was 400 ex

and had 10m dps

[sly sentinel]

what

how

what was your name on that character

[bronze terrace]

and it was one of the top builds

idk

[royal ermine]

time to farm ba

[sly sentinel]

the pathing on these builds

[sullen tiger]

y tf u farming ba start of 2nd week

[gusty vessel]

I mean, that's what happens with a build that just wants charges and sockets

[sullen tiger]

[bronze terrace]

yeah i knew it

HoWA is better than the foil

[turbid vale]

we like frenzies and we like clusters

[bronze terrace]

for 10c

[sly sentinel]

it says replacing howa

dont u mean foil is better

[bronze terrace]

no I meant comparable not better

[sly sentinel]

do i go record the sickest map clear video ever

and sell my build for

50% over budget

[bronze terrace]

if you find someone who doesnt price check

could happen but very unusual

[turbid vale]

can i have 5% of ur budget if ur successful

[sly sentinel]

i can easily add a few divines to it

[bronze terrace]

sure

[turbid vale]

do 1 with lightning arrow as well so u can advertise as both builds