#Puppet beetle Moveset Idea

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hollow tulip
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Puppet Beetle Master of Teamwork

Tired of playing alone or wishing your teammates could read your mind? Now you can! Control two beetles at once and become your own perfect teammate.

Based on Austrospirachtha carrijoi, a species of rove beetle known for having a decoy ā€œpuppetā€ beetle attached to its back.

Body size:
Main body: like lady bug(not as light)
Puppet: like Goliath(not as heavy)

Class: Disruptor, Controller, Support

Passive: Double Trouble

You control both the main beetle and the puppet beetle at the same time. Press any button while holding special(on/off ball) to make the puppet perform that action instead of the main body(makes the puppet view full screen while holding it). The puppet follows behind the main beetle floating slightly(so they don’t get stuck behind surfaces) unless placed into another stance.

Offball: Tag Out

Swap control between the main beetle and the puppet. Primary and passive control of the main beetle and puppet swap. If the puppet was in Follow or Sentry mode, the old main beetle will inherit that mode. held Balls are not transferred during the swap. Pressing while on cooldown will call back the puppet out of century mode if puppet isn’t in century mode no effect. puppet has no cooldown for this move.

Cooldown: 40 seconds

Onball: Carry my Legacy
Attach the puppet to the ball(puppet disappears till thrown). Once ball lands puppet enters century mode holding the ball no longer following the main body (but moves are still control able).
If the ball is removed from Puppets hands stays in century mode till ā€œTag Outā€ swaps or calls them back. If used with a puppet on field remove puppet and makes a new one. If a teammate picks up the ball the puppet attaches to them in the same way the puppet follows you(still fully controllable).

Cool Down: 35 seconds

Made by Z-Man

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Posted something saying that someone should make a puppet type character a while ago so I figured I would do it

weak summit
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That’s really coooll!

hollow tulip
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Thank you!

upper shoal
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Seems like it would be pretty fun to have in game

hollow tulip
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Puppet beetle Moveset Idea

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I agree! Hope it gets some traction so we can play it.

livid reef
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The idea is pretty cool

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But I think the passive has some problems

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Seeing a transparent view over your regular view can not be pleasant to look at

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Like nauseating / motion sickness for some poeple

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And having to click something twice for your puppet to do that action would mean a delay when only pressing it once

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Because the game has to wait to check if you are going to press again

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Which could be very annoying

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I do like the off ball but I think the cooldown is a little high

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I think the on ball completely nullifying a gold ball is a little strong

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It’s potato but better

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+you get to do a massive stun with it if you score it

hollow tulip
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Thank you very much for the advice!

hollow tulip
hollow tulip
# livid reef And having to click something twice for your puppet to do that action would mean...

I wasn’t sure how to get the puppet to do moves properly without it since if you had them doing stuff at the same time or delayed it would mess up a lot of just playing the character(especially when both characters could be holding a ball, just one, or both). I also considered just having to press and hold the special button while you do a regular action to get the puppet to act. Do you think that solves the problem?

hollow tulip
hollow tulip
# livid reef It’s potato but better

I agree that part of it is probably a little over tuned and I could prob just remove it but I’m not sure how to place the puppet without doing somthing like that unless I wanna say it just does that and doesn’t consume a ball but I think that might be more powerful since then enemies can’t take it and displace the puppet into bad spots(as a kind of counter play to the puppet)

livid reef
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So it’s like ladybug off ball or bomba on ball

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You can also switch the camera to the puppet while doing this

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So that fixed al my issues aside from the on ball which I need to think about some more?

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Do these changes align with your idea of the beetle or am I missing something?

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The on ball could just be that you attach your puppet to the ball putting it in sentry mode

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And that’s it

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Allows you to put your puppet at the goal with a 1 ball while you go in offense and stuff

hollow tulip
hollow tulip
# livid reef And that’s it

I like their being a little more than that becuse I feel like that just makes it a ball holder for the player removing the connection between the two and someone else can just walk up and take the ball

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If it was going to sit their I think it’s better to at least have it sit their without a ball becuse then you still have head butt and grab some you can combo with your self instead of just having throw and drop

livid reef
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I was thinking with the changed off ball I suggested you can launch the ball with your puppet attached, then take control of the puppet and move the ball

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I also thought taking control off the puppet while it’s following you would be useful since you can have 2 headbuts for example

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I think having 2 controllable bodies allows for a lot of cool tech

hollow tulip
livid reef
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It’s actually kinda similar to my bone beetle suggestion

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But I think this is better overall

hollow tulip
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Also I changed it from double press to hold special(on/off ball) for the puppet to act, and from puppet view from transparent to in the corner, and I wanna add your ball chanages

hollow tulip
livid reef
hollow tulip
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So on ball attaches puppet to the ball and off ball makes them controllable?

livid reef
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Yes

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And by default the puppet would always fly back to you slowly

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Unless attached to a ball or while controlled

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I think that prevents poeple from just placing their puppet at the goal for the entire match

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And if they do do it with a ball you can just headbut and the puppet flies back

hollow tulip
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I think it’s better to let the puppet sit somewhere even without a ball becuse then you can pass to your self and do more creative stuff

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And if someone does just put it at a goal you could just head butt it away still so it’s not in the goal anymore

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I also think it would be a pretty big waste to use all your abilities to attach your puppet to the ball and throw it just for it to get head butted and wasted

livid reef
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Yea fair

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So that would mean the puppet doesn’t follow anymore?

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How do you get it into sentry mode

hollow tulip
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Well when you throw the ball it could start in sentry mode till yo use your off ball to control it

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And then when you use off ball on cool down(not as puppet since he has no cooldown for off ball) you could call him back

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Ooooh

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I like that even more then the original

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Ima update the post

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Wait before that

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Any idea for puppet on ball since their is all ready a puppet on field?

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Should they just attach them self and teleport to it once thrown, not have one, or somthing diffrent?

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Idk if them being able to teleport to it is to OP and just takes tiger beetle

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Prob just better to not have them do anything or get like a slight speed boost

hollow tulip
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And with that I think the beetle is perfectly balanced and well rounded

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Balence at last

livid reef
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idk what a good on ball would be

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for the puppet

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maybe someone else will get a good idea

hollow tulip
# livid reef probably

Also by the way could you give this a fire emoji or dung beetle love to support it plz

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You helped so much and gave so many ideas it’d be a shame if it was never able to get traction 😁

livid reef
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Just did it

hollow tulip
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Thank you!

hollow tulip
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Art by @weak summit !

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Go hype her up and leave a vote plz

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@next iris with fan art this good you gotta at least check it out 😁

next iris
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what if you could send your puppet to a teammate as like a protector 😳

hollow tulip
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THAT WOULD BE SO GOOD

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This is why I love puppet characters becuse you can get so creative with it and do so much it allows for so much creativity in design and expression of skill

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Hold on…

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Is this a suggestion for my beetle or are you hinting at a beetle in development

hollow tulip
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Hold on thats such a fire idea I’m gonna add it to the post if you don’t mind

hollow tulip
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Forgot to put this here!

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More art my Juliana this one is a sticker reaction!

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Just about got all the art needed to add them to the game

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-# should be a real relief for any goated creator wanting to add them to beetle ball šŸ˜‰

frail lantern
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Not to be a party pooper but having 2 cameras on your screen will probably tank your frame rate

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I would just do it like the twins from DBD where when you press a button it swaps the cameras between them

hollow tulip
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If you wouldn’t mind as well I’d appreciate a reaction

hollow tulip
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i got rookie numbers

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this beetle in the game is hype

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wait why would you even comment if you didnt care?

frail lantern
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I think this one better captures a two beetle playstyle

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Actually no i see the vision with the passive here there just is a LOT of fluff

hollow tulip
frail lantern
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No like simpler ability design

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Like offball does very little in terms of gameplay as you can already control both beetles

hollow tulip
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its to combo with the on ball

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so you throw the ball and then have the beetles in 2 different places

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so you can pass to your self, play 2 positions at once, etc

frail lantern
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I mean yeah but like you're using both the passive and the primary for a single thing

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Like if you look at the beetles in game they push their abilities so far

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Like click offball can be used to gain height, speed up shots, push enemies away, steal balls above you, gain height with the ball, block shots at goal, etc etc

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Like you could just have offball swap between the beetles and activate a cool ability upon swapping with a short cooldown and then you could remove the 2nd camera and make the other beetle stand still when you're not controlling it (remove every other mode)

hollow tulip
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You're just naming creative think you can do with it its still a jump with an explosion at the beginning. you can block yourself, pass to yourself, be omnipresent on the stage, play goalie and score at the same time, support multiple teammates and hinder opponents at the same time, practicly teloport accross the map and thats just a few things. im giving players the ability to play 2 beetles in 2 diffrent places at once.

frail lantern
hollow tulip
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ok?

frail lantern
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I'm not saying it's a bad idea it's just a little bloated

frail lantern
# hollow tulip ok?

When little Timmy plays beetleball he starts scrolling TikTok past the 2nd line in the ability text

hollow tulip
frail lantern
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You have a phantom beetle you control on the field. It remains inactive untill offball is pressed
You control both the main beetle and the puppet beetle at the same time. Press any button while holding special(on/off ball) to make the puppet perform that action instead of the main body(makes the puppet view full screen while holding it). The puppet follows behind the main beetle floating slightly(so they don’t get stuck behind surfaces) unless placed into another stance.

Offball: Tag Out

Swap control between the main beetle and the puppet. Primary and passive control of the main beetle and puppet swap. ~~If the puppet was in Follow or Sentry mode, the old main beetle will inherit that mode.~~held Balls are not transferred during the swap. Pressing while on cooldown will call back the puppet out of century mode if puppet isn’t in century mode no effect. puppet has no cooldown for this move.

Cooldown: 40 seconds (making this less lets you use the ability a lot more which is more fun)

Onball: Carry my Legacy
Attach the puppet to the ball(puppet disappears till thrown). Once ball lands puppet is placed where the ball lands ~~enters century mode holding the ball no longer following the main body (but moves are still control able). ~~
If the ball is removed from Puppets hands stays in century mode till ā€œTag Outā€ swaps or calls them back. If used with a puppet on field remove puppet and makes a new one. If a teammate picks up the ball the puppet attaches to them in the same way the puppet follows you(still fully controllable).

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Wait why is strikethrough not working

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One sec

frail lantern
hollow tulip
# frail lantern You have a phantom beetle you control on the field. It remains inactive untill ...

No controlling both beetles at the same time, No ā€œhold special to make puppet act instead." No seeing through the puppet’s eyes. No full-screen puppet view. No perspective switching mechanic beyond swapping control. Puppet no longer: Follows behind you, Floats to avoid terrain, sentry mode is completely removed, No special stance states, No recalling from sentry, No stance inheritance when swapping, No cooldown interaction when pressing offball, No special cooldown behavior at all, Puppet holding the ball in a mode, Staying in sentry if ball removed, Teammate interactions, Puppet attaching to teammates, Replacing old puppet if one already exists is just what i can see with a quick over view

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you have made a different character and charicter architype

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This beetle is most accurately considered a stance swap character, tag character, or dual body character and is no longer a puppet charicter(the original main idea)

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Not a bad character, but you've completely changed it

frail lantern
hollow tulip
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no

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just making a puppet character

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its not based off of any one

frail lantern
hollow tulip
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im sure their is some unconscious bias towards that, as I am a smash bros player, but the character isnt based on fighting game characters(puppet or otherwise) and just the genre of puppet characters in general

solemn cargo
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Tufftufftuffftuff

hollow tulip
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Thank you goat

hollow tulip
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NuiN I picked Gamba for you I hope we got a mutual understanding

solar orchid
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i relaly like this idea

hollow tulip
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Thank you very much im glad you like it😁

hollow tulip
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Just got word some crazy new puppet art is comming along!

hollow tulip
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More art from the GOAT Juliana!

hollow tulip
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So many good beetle designs coming out but the puppet will prevail!

weak summit
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We will prevail

cunning night
weak summit
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Sim, como vc soube? Lol

cunning night
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juliana carvalho

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vc desenha mt bem

weak summit
cunning night
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kkkkkk

weak summit
hollow tulip
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You should prob change that by the way

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Assuming that is your real face and name

cunning night
cunning night
cunning night
# weak summit Obg

sera q dps se vc puder tem como fazer um desenho pra sugestao q eu fiz? o gorgulho da bolota

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so se vc puder

weak summit
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Vou dar uma olhada, não sei se eu consigo porque eu to ocupada com trabalho e o criador desse post é um amigo próximo meu então eu fiz de favor e também porque eu gostei muito da ideia dele. Mas eu te aviso

cunning night
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vc quer q eu te marque nele?

weak summit
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Boa sorte com a sua sugestão inclusive. Eu soube que o criador do jogo responde bastante aos posts

cunning night
weak summit
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Blzz

cunning night
hollow tulip
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i cant believe we all ready got to 15 likes lets go!

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a small number compared to some of the giants, but we're making progress!

solar orchid
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I still really think this should be added, genuinely fuckiung fire yo

hollow tulip
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Thank you so much!

hollow tulip
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I think i am probably have to pull out the pro gamer strats of saying holy to keep this at the top just so it can get the exposure it needs

primal widget
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Holy trye

hollow tulip
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Fr fr

solemn cargo
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Holy trye

hollow tulip
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Optimal trye

hollow tulip
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20 LIKES LETS GOOOOO

last cosmos
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What does the puppet do in sentry mode?

hollow tulip
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this is to plant it in a spot instead of having it follow you. you still control both beetles at the same time and everything is pretty much the same but it stays where were it is instead of following you

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ik its a pretty simple ability but you can do a lot of complex stuff with it

hollow tulip
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I’m going to make something diabolical

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Worth for puppet beetle to get the exposure and brain rot it deserves

hollow zephyr
urban zenith
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what about a skin for this being the ant nest beetle? it looks like a similar beetle to these abilities, and also it's just kinda a silly guy, lol

hollow tulip
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Goated idea love silly little guys

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Lowkey wish ik about them sooner ima def try to make it a skin

urban zenith
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yeah, I just did some research earlier and discovered them so yk

hollow tulip
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I see now my jolly jokes are no match

viscid geyser
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@hollow tulip check your roles

hollow tulip
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IVE DONE IT

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LFG

hollow tulip
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thank you Axodle Goat

cunning night
hollow tulip
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Thank you!

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You have quite a goated one yourself

hollow tulip
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Big 25 almost to 30!!!!!

solar orchid
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This is currently my favorite suggestion

hollow tulip
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Thank you!

last cosmos
solar orchid
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poop fart

hollow tulip
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Fart poop