Eikonic Overhaul

[wraith pike]

< PRELUDE >
This mod is my own fantasy/take on some other great mods out there!

Compatible with every game languages but most text-related changes are only translated in English and French.
Make sure that the game language and the regional format of your OS are set to the same language!

< FEATURES >

• Animation Cancelling: dodge or use some abilities to cancel your current animations!
• Passive effects for Weapons & Gear!
  ||Modifications: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR4IeweTalXsneJYB58PIUZYxd6_o4vQBV3wTtFEfYME_IwL9rQ6JhvadJSIlLR1xtu7rQ-1Q1fCYZW/pubhtml||
• Prelude to Status Ailments!
• Potent Magic, Stomps and Odin actions!
• Unified cooldown system!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5WcxRYzldA

https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy16/mods/249

[frosty crest]

Amazing work

[wraith pike]

Thanks 😄 !! Your mods were very very helpful in this case. I learned a lot from them.

I hope we will find a way to assign orders or give commands to our party members some day. It would be a great addition to the game.

[whole pollen]

Gonna check this out.. once it hits!

[whole pollen]

Assume this mod wont work with several others it's based on, right?

[wraith pike]

Correct, but I guess you could swap some files like using the difficultylevel.nxd from Basic Difficulty instead of mine.

In my mod, it has been fine-tuned to better suit my gameplay changes.

Same goes for the equipment; if you prefer the equipitem.nxd from Eikonic Equipment, you can swap it too. Because I've changed abilities+magic potency through attackparam .

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Action.nxd was changed to include animation canceling.
Combo.nxd was changed to include custom Magic Burst Combo Finishers.
Command.nxd for the cooldowns, "Blade Beam" (Heatwave 1), "Judgment Cut" (Zan Lvl 1), upgraded Lunge/Downthrust.

[wraith pike]

As I need some more testing and feedbacks, here is the current version :).

You will need Logos Unleashed in order to make it work; so please make sure that the order is like in my screenshot. Please note that other mods modifying items, equipments, cooldowns, difficulty, commands might cause some issues with my own mod.

Before using my own mod, I would also suggest going into Logos Unleashed's folder, make a copy of both Logos Unleashed command.nxd and renaming the original files to command_bck.nxd to avoid potential conflicts with my own mod (for now).

Don't forget to rename both files back to command.nxd if you are not using my mod or my custom command.nxd.

[kindred sinew]

Got a crash using Mirage

Yeah most of the new abilities are causing crashes

50% CDR was doing it haha

Might want to let people know they don't stack

[wraith pike]

Ah , can you please try again after deactivating the 50% Cooldown Reduction Mod?

EDIT: Other cooldown reduction mods can cause conflicts as well.

Thanks for the reminder xD

[kindred sinew]

This mod is pretty awesome! Will take some time to learn the muscle memory though. Are most of the gear supposed to have 0 defense?

[wraith pike]

Thank you!!! 🙂
It might take some time to get used to these changes, indeed xD.

Did you try on a endgame savefile with all equipments/gear?

Some of them don't provide defense in exchange for increased passive effect or stagger bonuses, but I can change this since enemies hit harder.

I think I'm gonna go for the same initial defense & HP bonuses on all gear but split differently according to the item and the upgrade level.

I tried to go for a thematic/set for some items (such as the ones improving the counter abilities — Heatwave, Scarlet Cyclone, Rook's Gambit, Raging Fists).

[wraith pike]

WIP:
I have changed the Magic Bursts through the combo table instead of action.

And it seems that I can set different basic combos/Magic Bursts depending on Clive's age and Limit Break. Gonna do further testing, but it might give some sense of progression to Clive's battle performance/talent through the game :).

[wraith pike]

And it actually works 🙂
I'm also experimenting with Arm of Darkness Aerial Combos (as you can see in the 2nd video).

Here are some videos of my progress...

https://youtu.be/sR6cBlGsCxY

https://youtu.be/fn8S7QXTrDI

[wintry perch]

looking realllly good XD so about equipment, I noticed your str is very low now at 110, are all the weapons capped around 200?

[wraith pike]

Thank you!

Yes, I have lowered all weapons stats to put more emphasis on the passive effects and players' skills.

Bosses/Enemies hit stronger in general, but their HP+Stagger Resistance were slightly changed due to this.

Fixed weapons from Kairos Gate were left as they are, beside attaching a passive effect on them (same one as Invictus).

Since belts and vambraces have passive effects too, you can have some interesting combination.

Like a build focused on Rook's Gambit or Raging Fists, Heatwave, etc.

[wintry perch]

Got it, we are talking a loss though of almost 300 str on some weapons, is the game balanced to compensate for this ?

The ultima weapon alone has 700 str and will

Also is there a read me file with all the changes?

[wraith pike]

Thanks for the question!

That's where play-testing will be very important. I did not go through the whole game to test everything yet, as I was still tweaking some values until recently xD.

But I feel like it might be okay, because enemies don't have a defense stat in FFXVI. So I've slightly decreased their HP+ Stagger Gauge/Resistance to make up for it.

[wraith pike]

Regarding equipments, nothing specific yet.

You can see the prominent features in my original post (which was recently updated). ✌️

If you have any other feedback or suggestion, please let me know :).

I'm quite new in the modding world, but I do like designing game concepts or battle systems for fun.

[wintry perch]

you seem to be adding new items, would you make these side quest drops?

[static beacon]

could you please disclose which one of the database files is the one regulating abilities and which column is which, so that the NXD layout can be updated?

[wraith pike]

Actually, most of the items were already in the original game (such as the DLC's Bits accessories). They were renamed and changed. So you should normally get them as usual.

For changes regarding sword crafting, please check Eikonic Equipment mod page since it is originally based on this: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy16/mods/89?tab=description

[wraith pike]

So for the cooldowns, it's on command table. The layout already features this column.

[13,13,22,13]
[Default,Learned,Upgraded,Mastered]

I removed the abilities cost of Clive's basic kit in the skills table.
The layout is already updated with the required info; "UpgradeCost" column.

Text was modified in the first Description column.

For the Combo Finishers (Magic Bursts), I've changed the combo table.
Here is a screen from Nenkai's WIP combo table which already features info regarding Magic Bursts.

What I can share about this table is:

• Rows 3-6: Adult Clive

• 8-12: Arm of Darkness

• 13-16: Teen Clive

• 24-27: Limit Break

• 113-116: Berserker Mode (from Berserker Ring)

• Rows 53-56 seems to be related to ||Ultima||, but I'm not 100% sure.
  @frosty crest Can you confirm this?

[static beacon]

Why thank you very much!

[wraith pike]

Hello everyone! Here is an updated WIP version of the mod.
This one should be even more consequent (please read the original post for all features);

• More equipments have been changed

• Odin moveset has been revamped:
  As previous versions, you deal far more damage in that mode compared to the original game.
  You can use Rift Slip with Special Button (O) in that mode. Taunt is now used to sheathe Odin's blade.
  In that mode, abilities are set to 1 - Heaven's Cloud (Murakumo in the mod) | 2 - Dancing Steel (Hassou Tobi).
  You can do regular aerial attacks and Magic Bursts/Finishers but it will not fill the Zantetsuken Gauge. The first 2 attacks in the ground combo can be changed into Magic Bursts/Combo Finishers.

• Bahamut moveset was slightly changed:
  In that mode, abilities are now set to 1 - Impulse | 2 - Gigaflare.

• Limit Break:
  Clive will use stronger version of the usual Combo Finishers.
  You can now heal yourself with "Firelight" in Limit Break with D-Pad Right.
  Ignition -> Lunge/Downthrust.
  Will-o'-the-Wykes (when it's working... 😬) -> Taunt.

Enjoy 😉

[wintry perch]

did you adjust any equipment parameters?

[wintry perch]

@wraith pike okay testing it out and so far so good @ martha rest. however the stormfury weapon you can forge after garuda is very poor in comparison to the +2s you can forge at that time - they give almost double the attack

also a lot of the early gear has modifers for abilities you arnet going to get for a long time, and I assume you will have better gear?

also the iron belt mentions your noble steed damage. is this for Ambrosia? I dont recall she ever contributes much damage to begin with

also I have 7 meteorites by this point and most +2s needed one. you may want to increase either the number of items needed to forge +2s or increase the wydrite (sp) amount need, like mthunder did on his mod

[whole pollen]

I appreciate the focus on Odin 😂

[wraith pike]

You're welcome! I also really like playing as Odin, so I wanted to make that late-game mode useful and strong.

I have tried many things with Bahamut, but I couldn't get rid of that restriction limiting all actions... 😔

[wraith pike]

Yes, it's for Ambrosia but I changed the wording to make it as much spoiler-free as possible. There was a request for such feature xD

https://discord.com/channels/1284918645675397140/1315128035367977022

[wraith pike]

Do you have any names or screenshots to share about these specific gears?

I could like remove (or hide?) the passive effects for the non-upgraded version of some gear.

[wraith pike]

Ohhh I see. I may have to double check, because all things related to crafting/drops came from Eikonic Equipment. I haven't changed that part 🤔.

[wraith pike]

And thanks a lot for your valuable feedback!

So yeah, I think I'm gonna give the same stats to weapons, because my end goal is to have players use whatever swords/builds they prefer.

Ultima Weapon lines will be stronger, of course. But possibly not the best weapons in the game.

[wintry perch]

if I could make a suggestion, go along with mthundr's stats on the eikonic weapon mod but lower them equally by whatever percentage you feel confortable with. maybe 30-50%? they did a great job on balancing them

I would try to keep all crafted weapons similiar stats on +1/2,3, ect upgrades but some weapons w/o upgrades will need to be a bit higher to be a viable option. ie. why should I use the stormcry weapon for decreases in garuda's abilities cooldowns when there are much better weapons that increase my combo damage.

[wraith pike]

Thanks for the suggestion!

So thanks to this, I've finally taken time to make an excel sheet featuring all of my changes regarding equipment compared to vanilla or Eikonic Equipment versions.

If anyone has some spare time and would like to give some other feedbacks, you're more than welcome! Thank you ✌️

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR4IeweTalXsneJYB58PIUZYxd6_o4vQBV3wTtFEfYME_IwL9rQ6JhvadJSIlLR1xtu7rQ-1Q1fCYZW/pub?output=xlsx

[wintry perch]

okay @wraith pike thank you so much. I reviewed the weapons and my take is that all crafted eikon weapons should be 150 str and 130 will. their FF versions should be 225 and 200 will. that way they are viable options to the +2 and +3 versions of the 'basic swords'. I think you should change omega weapon though to not be using potions but a flat 5% extra damage ala genji gloves

all download swords should be 100,100 str and will

double the attack for the coral, ancient, and masamune swords as well

this will ensure all weapons have that 150-250 range that allows people to pick and choose depending on their play style and not feel they are weakening themselves substantially

(in normal mode)

[wintry perch]

okay last post I swear, the more I think about it, the more I feel that the joy of finding new weapons as the game progresses should stay. I propose then to make +3s for the basic swords able to be upgrade after the time skip (capping at 180 attack), with +4 now available (capping at 295, which is the original rune sword +4 stats) before attempting ash. this makes ragnarok and gotterdammerung maintain their prized status

if possible making a line of elemental swords +1 that you can make before ash that cap at 280 str/will plus their respective eikon's ability cooldown descreases

in the above scenario, only changes I would make would be ancient sword at 325 str/ 50 will, no enhancement (for those who wants pure damage at the expense of stagger), upgrade excalibur to 270 plus its bonuses, change masamune to 275, and reduce defender to 295 max at +3 (so starting at 250?),

with all swords upgraded, you now have the all the +4 weapons and all found weapons between 270-295 attack, and varying stagger

as to how to gate the +3 and +4s, just require an ingredient you cant get until after the time skip, or from side quests unlocked after starting the second part and then after the battle with slepnir. that would go along way to making side quests relevant if they were needed to get items to upgrade gear!

[wintry perch]

Let me know if updating the excel sheet with my suggested numbers would work

[wraith pike]

Thank you again for your suggestions 🙂

I like your most recent idea, but I'm not sure if we can (yet) do what you would like to achieve. This kind of changes could be a mod on itself. If someone is up for the challenge, they can take over xD.

So in the end, I went for the 1st alternative; boosting weapons but trying to keep them around the 150-250 ranges. I'm gonna double check the availability of some passive effects to avoid spoiling the game for newcomers. And then I will release a first public version of the mod and get back to gaming for a while.

[wintry perch]

No problems, but quick question: we can’t unlock +3 and 4+ upgrades from the get go and just add a special item that can stack and be added to side quest reward pools? Genuine question haha

I’m not sure how much we do

[wintry perch]

sounds good, if we go with my original suggestion, increasing all regular elemental swords to 150/150, making ancient coral sword 145/90, ancient sword 210/40 (or even lower like 20), excalibur 165/120, masamune 125/140, ragnarok 175/175, gotterdammerung 200/175, and ultima weapon 230/200

should balance things

ancient sword being all attack and minimal stagger is what I am most interested in seeing if it works

I would even give it a new ability that increases attack potion length by 50% to emphasize its uniqueness

plus it would make you gear up clive smartly to get stagger up through other gear options to offset the weapons weakness

[wintry perch]

as you can see, the crafted weapons all stop around 150ish, with non crafted weapons and blackthrone made weapons being stronger but more varied in stats and have more unique abilities

also are there are only 23 accessories?

[sudden frost]

Is this compatible with logos or mythos mod??

[wintry perch]

Video down solo?

[wraith pike]

I have only added the accessories I have changed in the excel sheet, which are mostly the Reflections and Bits accessories.
The other ones will stay as they are (in case, people want to use command.nxd from another mod or the original one) ^^

[wraith pike]

Yes ! I'm preparing the grounds in order to release the first public version very soon.
I'll do another recap video showing some changes.

And thank you again for your help! I have adjusted some stats/effects, but for how they will be upgraded, it will stay as they are right now.
I don't know if it is actually possible and I'm not feeling up for that challenge xD.

[wintry perch]

That’s awesome solo, we don’t need to change anything for the upgrade paths, it works out well

There was one more thing Solo I was wondering about, could we increase those stat boost accessories up to 100 at max level? They are rather useless otherwise since the stat bonuses are so low. Maybe like 20, 50,75, and then 100 at +3?

[wraith pike]

You mean the "Badge of Might / Badge of Mettle" ?

[wintry perch]

Yes

Since the max in regular mode would be 50 and not game breaking

And 100 in FF would be nice to offset other weapon weaknesses

[wraith pike]

I did some tests:

• LOGOS can be used, but you will have to rename the command.nxd from Logos (for example, to: command_bck.nxd) as it will have some conflicts with my own custom command file. However, the mod is required for some of the new Eikon command inputs (like [Ability + Jump] or [Ability + Eikon Feat] buttons or [Up/Down + Eikon Feat] buttons).

• MYTHOS works (if you have already renamed LOGOS command.nxd); you will have to put my mod before MYTHOS. However, if you don't rename MYTHOS command.nxd, and in general, it will cancel some of my changes such as the modified cooldown system, modified commands, Heatwave as ground charged magic, etc.

[sudden frost]

thanks going to try this out!

[wraith pike]

Here is the public release!
ENJOY 😄

https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy16/mods/249

[wintry perch]

played a little today and it looks great so far 🙂 i love the new abilities you added and the stat corrections. one weird thing though that's been bugging me, why does Rising Flame sometimes get stuck in some kind of a windup phase before going off? it doesnt happen everytime but when it does it's locked for up to 3 seconds

[wraith pike]

Thank you! 😉

As far as I remember, Rising Flames was always like this (I have only changed the ability potency and cooldown). I think you mean the "hitstop"/animation slowdown that occurs when the wing strikes the enemy?

It's faster in the basic version, but the upgraded version (which does additional hits) is slower to make it feel more powerful.

[wintry perch]

It’s more like it stutters for a few second or jerks a bit before connecting

[whole pollen]

congrats on the release!

one issue i had with the beta version was it'd randomly use leviathans water gun even when i didt have that move set equipped

not sure if that was a bug or by design

really not a fan of the water gun

[wraith pike]

Thanks!! You can finally use Odin properly now :).

Clive has more combo potential in this form now.

[wraith pike]

But this is weird. Were you using any other mods such as Mythos Exalted?

Or maybe it was coming from a custom combo set in Logos Unleashed config menu?

If you use the "combo" trigger + attack, it will use one of the custom combo finisher set in the tool.

Or maybe it's due to using mods like "Air Roll" or "Backflip" ?

[whole pollen]

May have been. I’ll retest in the coming days!

[wraith pike]

Mod has been updated to 1.2, which features some changes/tweaks but also a 🇫🇷 translation! (which is my mother tongue)

Please check Nexus Mods for more info about the mod in general. 🙂

[wintry perch]

what did you change from 1.0? I dont see a readme or snything

[wraith pike]

The biggest feature is the French version, which took me ages to do... 😵
For the rest, please check the changelog on Nexus Mods.

[wraith pike]

Thanks for the reminder!

I have also added the spreadsheet regarding all changes for equipments in the DOCS section.

[wintry perch]

awesome, very helpful! looks well balanced on second glance haha

perhaps in a future patch, increasing all ff mode weapons by 40 attack would be a good idea just for some nice power creep since the difference between gotter normal and +1 is only 50

but omega + is 70 attack higher than its closest weapon, the fallen enforcer+ and +80 more than Ultima Weapon, when they were more equal in FF mode

[wintry perch]

also what is the difference between the new accessories like the All as One and the Undying vs the EotF bits?

[wraith pike]

Thanks for your message

In essence, they are the same items.

But they provide some stats bonuses, have been split into different types (belts, vambraces, accessories) to free up slots for accessories.

And have been refurbished to my likings just for some easter eggs or lore reason.

[wraith pike]

FYI, I'm taking a break from modding.

If someone wants to use my modded files for their own mods or experiments, feel free to do it ;-).

[wintry perch]

All good I think you need people to test the mod more before more changes should be made

[sudden frost]

I works very nicely in fact it’s very complementary with those modes plus with empress vfx it’s just very satisfying exotic

Do you have eikonic overhaul with out the equipment mods cuz it overrides my weapon accessories mods. @wraith pike

[sudden frost]

i'll try and delete the equipitem.nxd

[wraith pike]

Hey! Thanks for your message 🙂

So yeah, just rename equipitem.nxd to equipitem_bck.nxd for example. Also you have to rename recipe.nxd as it was changed through Eikonic Equipment (to fit the new weapon upgrade path).

Therefore, you won't have to download the mod all over again if you wanna use my modded equipments in the future 👍 .

[sudden frost]

Thanks it’s better than what I was thinking

[sudden frost]

It’s not working I fell asleep while trying to get it to work

[wraith pike]

Your modded weapons and accessories are not working while my mod is active?

I would suggest checking if you don't have the mod Eikonic Equipment (from mThund3R) active xD.

Can you please try again after putting your own mod after mine in Reloaded-II?

[sudden frost]

no i dont have that mod installed

[sudden frost]

ill try this now

[wintry perch]

@wraith pike @frosty crest I hit my first snag with the eikon weapon overhaul and solo's adaption of it right before oriflamme. ive been getting every chest I can and looking around but I barely have 250 wyrrite. I still need 250 just to upgrade any ONE basic sword to +1 (which is still 1/2 the attack of my current weapon) and then another 1000(!) to get to +2, which puts it in line with my current weapon. Charon doesnt sell wyrrite until titan is defeated so it essentially negates anyone ever really upgrading them for a large portion of the game. Kind takes the customization fun out of it

otherwise, everything has been working smoothly with the mod, mobs are just challenging enough and the new abilities are great

[wraith pike]

Thanks for the feedback! 🙂

So, yeah I will keep that in mind for any potential update where I could reduce the amount of required wyrrites.

[sudden frost]

There are some special combos attacks is it
X Y X Y
Or there are different configurations

I just wanna know the button chaining

[wraith pike]

Hey! So, you can use Magic Bursts (hereafter MB) to unleash some "burst finishers" (combo finishers). Limit Break uses the same config as the regular moveset but with upgraded finishers. Teen Clive moveset is more limited.

< Regular Moveset >

• Ground MB1: Basic Magic Burst (can be chained with a regular attack)

• GR MB 2: Rising Flames

• GR MB 3: Ground Burning Blade

• GR MB 4 : Scarlet Cyclone

• Air MB 1: Air Burning Blade

• Air MB 2: Wicked Wheel

• Air MB 3: Final Air Magic Burst

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< Odin | Arm of Darkness (Mugetsu) >

• GR MB 1: Basic Magic Burst (can be chained with a regular attack)

• GR MB 2: Gungnir-like attack

• Air Magic Bursts work like the Regular Moveset

[wraith pike]

Here is an updated recipe.nxd.

Basic swords +1 and +2 need fewer wyrrites (100 instead of 500 / 500 instead of 1000) for their upgrades!

Let me know what you think about it!

[wintry perch]

thanks, ill check it out tonight!

[wintry perch]

perfect @wraith pike I was able to craft all +1 weapons before act 1 ends with the wyrrite available.

[wraith pike]

Hello everyone!
Here is a WIP version for the 1.3 update.

Please remove the 'FFXVI' folder from my mod folder and replace it with the one in the zip. I took the opportunity to correct the mod structure folder.

It's a small update, but here are the changes so far:

Mod's structure folder has been changed/corrected; you can play in your language of preference, but the equipment, items, commands and skills will be in English or French. However, make sure that the game language and the regional format of your OS are set to the same language!

|| - Basic Swords upgrades for +1/+2 require fewer Wyrrites (100 instead of 500, 500 instead of 1000).

• Combo Finishers (triggered from Magic Bursts) are now called "Burst Finishers".
• Regular Magic now inflicts more Will damage.
• Stomp now inflicts some Will damage.
• ODIN: Using "Rengeki" (Gungnir) while attuning to Odin should no longer crash the game.
• ODIN: [Lunge] set to Dark Launcher.
• RAMUH: While using "Blind Justice"; "Lightning Rod" is now set to 1st ability slot / "Judgment Bolt" is now set to 2nd ability slot -> As with any other abilities, it will cancel Blind Justice.
• (Experimental) CLIVE: Basic ground combo has a fifth attack that can be chained with Flash of Steel as a Burst Finisher.
• (Experimental) CLIVE: Basic aerial combo has a fourth attack, Burst Finishers have been changed accordingly.
• CLIVE: Attacking while running towards a foe will trigger a long range fiery attack. ||

Enjoy! 🙂

[summer silo]

Hey there, unsure if it have to do with the preview or not but since i'm using it i'll report here, during the very early game, during the fall when you're the phoenix against ifrit you cannot use fireball when using your mod, removing it temporarily made me able to attack

Note that this is for the second cutscene (after the dragoon) i didn't install the mod correctly at first so for the very first scene with phoenix so i don't know if it affect that part too (probably)

EDIT : going back to the nexus version temporarily allow you to finish the phoenix cutscene

[summer silo]

@wraith pike Little ping to make sure you see the message for future release 😉

[wraith pike]

Hey, thanks for testing and for the feedback!

• Can you tell me more about how you install the mod?

• Did you set the game language and your system regional format to the same language?

• Are you using any other mod?

• Was the Fireball command shown properly in the UI/the screen ?

[summer silo]

Can you tell me more about how you install the mod? Did you set the game language and your system regional format to the same language?
That was the first issue, i wasn't using the correct regional settings, thus the mod wasn't working (but i didn't know yet since there was no supposed change) i realized when i tried to use RB+A as it was writen jump i was curious and it crashed my game, some research made me install it correctly around the goblin quest.

Are you using any other mod?
I'm using only FFXVI fix and all the requirement for those two (mod loader, mod framework and Logos unleashed (with both the renamed command files)

Was the Fireball command shown properly in the UI/the screen ?
It was shown proprely in the UI, unless the restart itself fixed it, removing the mod fixed the issue

I should add at first i specifically used the english 1.2 version of your mods and i crashed, then tried the french one (i'm french) still crashed, then changed regional settings AND used the 1.3 beta which worked well.

Feel free to ping me for a faster reply

[wraith pike]

Ah yes, let's continue (in DM) in French then!

Thanks for letting me know. I will test it asap :).

EDIT: Problem solved, was related to some missing rows in the action table.

[wraith pike]

Hello! Here is an updated version of the mod... with a prelude to status ailments!

https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy16/mods/249?tab=files

Please let me know if you have any issues or feedbacks. Thank you, and enjoy! 🙂

[wintry perch]

love seeing the changes! I hope to play some tonight to try em

[wraith pike]

Thanks 🙂

So after some deep thinking, I'm gonna revert some changes; mostly restore some basic actions such as the ground charged magic shot (to avoid disrupting the overall gameplay flow too much) and most custom commands from Logos Unleashed (think about Shift Wave) to prepare the ground for the mod next update :D.

The Attack Debuff will be associated with Odin's blade counterattacks.

[wintry perch]

Awesome man

[wraith pike]

Update:
the difficultylevel.nxd file from the mod can now be removed thanks to the super mod created by Maybri:

https://discord.com/channels/1284918645675397140/1357649968403316766

You can then tweak the difficulty as you see fit ✌️.

[wraith pike]

Here are the settings that I was using for the mod (which I think was pretty balanced):

1. Story Mode
2. Action Mode
3. Final Fantasy Mode
4. Ultimaniac

Unk19 = Enemy Aggression

EDIT:
Due to the game's way of checking DPS during some boss fights, please revert the Boss HP to their default value: 70 / 100 / 125 / 125

[wraith pike]

Hello! Here is a small update. This should be the last one for a while (until the next big update from Logos Unleashed).

Enjoy!

Additionally, I will not pursue my research on status effects.

[frosty crest]

Ice Age in air triggering Mesmerize is pretty much what I've done with Blizzaga in the new update lol

[wintry perch]

Oh what happened?

[wintry perch]

You think we could ever have Clive charge up to ga spells?

[frosty crest]

Not without some tinkering, but definitely possible

[wintry perch]

i still cant believe we cant do that in vanilla, it seemed obvious

[wraith pike]

Loss of (personal) interest on my side, but I'm also pretty satisfied about the current state of the mod.

Thank you for your time and different feedbacks. It helped a lot!

I'm now mostly looking forward to see some other mod updates (such as the one for Logos Unleashed) 🔥.

[wintry perch]

You got it!

[wraith pike]

1.3.2 update is available. Should be compatible with Logos Unleashed.
Some files have been removed, so please make sure to first remove Eikonic Overhaul in Reloaded-II and install this new update.

https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy16/mods/249?tab=files

Enjoy!!! 🔥

[wintry perch]

Oh I just copy pasted it over the old one. Is that going to mess things up?

[frosty crest]

don't copy paste newer folders over old stuff
it's a bad idea in general, since the old folder gets merged with the newer one, not overridden

[wintry perch]

eek ty

[wintry perch]

@wraith pike hi solo I have made some big changes to the weapons in this mod that I will share here in the next few days, while I iron out some things

My biggest change is to make the basic swords (pre time skip) have a 95/145/195 track while post skip swords have a 145/175/195 track. The idea is that players will be able to reforge all sword to +1 (145) by Drakes Head, and then 195 at waloud. The other swords will reach +1 (175) shortly before the Dominion and then 195 at waloud. However the bonuses on the basic weapons are so good that they make up for the 30+ till the end and then at +2, the later swords have slightly higher potencies of their abilities, to give players will different builds more options

Found and crafted swords are carefully balanced to be just as good as their bought and upgraded counterparts

I am toying with changing elemental swords to give flat 15% bonuses to all abilities related to that eikon, with the higher versions giving 20%

[raven pasture]

Before or after logos unleashed in reloaded( i assume before?)

Oh and is it compatible with logos 2.0 beta or onl 1.1

[wraith pike]

Hello! The latest update (1.3.2) should work with both versions.

Please make sure that Logos Unleashed is placed before my own mod in Reloaded-II.

Enjoy ✌️

FYI, as I'm also changing the cooldown of abilities, it is not compatible with any other cooldown mods.

[raven pasture]

thanks for the feedback!

[static beacon]

did you ever discover where in the files it it stored how many times skills hit?

[wintry perch]

My weapon mod based on this awesome mod now includes armor! I hope to get it out as soon as I can program in 2 items needed for final upgrades and adjust reward tables,

[gaunt vector]

Was the burst finish feature removed in a recent update, perhaps? I can't seem to get them to come out

[wraith pike]

Hey! Yeap, that's correct. I wanted the mod to stay as close as possible to the original gameplay flow.
(also to avoid "clashing" with other gameplay mods)

I suggest using the configurable combo finisher feature from Logos Unleashed instead :).

[gaunt vector]

Gotcha, appreciate the quick reply

[pallid badger]

Yeah this also unfortunately removed the R2 + Circle abilities which I quite liked. A mod that adds this as a configurable option would be incredible.

I feel Logos Unleashed goes a bit overboard with it adding directional variants too

[rugged loom]

I agree on the directional variant, but only because I'm too used to the original controls and muscle memory hard to change. Still mad respect to @frosty crest for Logos.

[wraith pike]

The latest update (Logos Unleashed) introduces a way to use them only if you hold the lock-on button (like DMC) -> in the config menu.

It's better that way IMO 🙂.

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For the R2 + Circle abilities, maybe you could suggest this to mThund3R:

https://discord.com/channels/1284918645675397140/1311484908413259826

[pallid badger]

for the configurable option? yeah I think I'll do that.

[gaunt vector]

Is there a way to still use ground burning strike with this mod?

[rugged loom]

I love the mod so far but gotta agree on what others have said on Nexus the equipment nerf is too significant. I wish there was a variant of this mod that had all the passive effects without the nerfs or at least a lower degree of nerfing - makes my favorite stagger build with tonberry blade much more harder to achieve.

[wintry perch]

thats my mod

in my mod the weapons increase in strength with each type but you can upgrade them to be equal at 2 points in the game

I also think you can use eikonic equipment mod too that will overwrite the overhaul mod if its placed above it?

[wraith pike]

Hey! You can revert Burning Blade back to the previous level in the Skill tree to have the regular Burning Blade back.

Although, during Limit Break, Clive will use the usual Burning Blade.

You can also set any of the Combo Finishers in Logos Unleashed's config menu as Burning Blade with one of these actions:

• 174 - Ground Burning Blade
• 175 - Air Burning Blade
• 309 - Limit Break Ground Burning Blade
• 310 - Limit Break Air Burning Blade

Enjoy!!! 😉

[gaunt vector]

I see. Thank you very much

[wintry perch]

@wraith pike do you want to take my weapon and armor overhaul and add it into your mod as an optional nxd?

[wraith pike]

Thanks for the feedback. I will not do this, because I've designed it as I wanted to.

Feel free to edit the modded equipitem database: https://discord.com/channels/1284918645675397140/1311028338856562778

Otherwise, you can use other mods that change equipment instead such as Eikonic Equipment (maybe it might work depending on the order in Reloaded-II), use Toth Firewalker's promising mod:
https://discord.com/channels/1284918645675397140/1385028502624927764

And/or wait for Maybri's future update for her great Custom Difficulty mod:
#1357649968403316766 message

✌️

[wraith pike]

I appreciate the thought, but it's better if you create your own mod page :).

You have been working hard on this, also easier as you may receive some feedbacks/suggestions/questions 💪

And actually I don't think my mod or Logos Unleashed are really mandatory for yours 🙂.

My Void Slash is basically Zantetsuken 1 (with the extra slowdown effect). However, I did create an atk_type for Odin's basic swordplay instead of using attackparam in my mod (works because the corresponding equipments don't affect anything else).

[rugged loom]

I will give the load order a try, and the reading I loved your mod was it was the only one that gave me access to more eikon a abilities. The way it functions lows one to bypass ability loadout limit restrictions. Thanks again for the 🔥 mod.

[little hinge]

change like this

or what?

[little hinge]

have u try it yet

@gaunt vector

[frosty crest]

don't change that section, that's only for Logos Mode. Change the Base Combo Strng Finisher section instead

[little hinge]

well ok and now what :V

[little hinge]

@frosty crest

LIKE THIS?

[wraith pike]

Yes, but there is gonna be an issue with the Combo Finisher after Air Attack II:
You have set the ID 309, which is the Limit Break Ground Burning Blade.

I can also see that you have set the Normal Air Burning Blade as a Combo Finisher after Air Attack III. Was it intended?

FYI: In my mod, Clive during Limit Break will still perform the usual Limit Break Burning Blade. 🙂

[little hinge]

well fuck this shit

i dont understand about this config and the number

[frosty crest]

well first things first if you want proper help, what are you trying to achieve? The method SoloWan explained allows you to set Burning Blade to the combo finisher slots

[frosty crest]

What you've done here is take every ground combo finisher and replace it with ground / air normal / LB burning blade

If you simply wanted to have access to burning blade through any of the combo finishers, just take 174 (ground normal burning blade) and set it to any of the four ground slots

If you wanted to have air burning blade instead, use 175 and attach it to any of the tree air slots

It's that simple

[little hinge]

oh god damn it

@frosty crest how about this

[frosty crest]

Yeah that would work, it would give you access to burning blade for the second and third air attack finishers

Oh nevermind

Just the third

Misread 715 as 175

[versed owl]

@wraith pike hey I have a small question to ask ik it might be stupid but how does the attacks from limit break trigger ? Like in your mod you made it so it can be used outside of limit break

I am just confused

Is there any kind of input

Or any kind of certain hits to trigger it

I am just trying to figure out how it is used lol ( because it happens randomly when I am playing and I am not able to figure it out)

[wraith pike]

Do you have any specific attacks in mind?

Or maybe you are currently using the Berserker Ring (rebranded as "Infernal Reflection" in the mod)? After a precision dodge, it will change your basic swordplay for a few seconds.

https://youtu.be/vMMZRyUZbfg?feature=shared

[wraith pike]

Or it might come from:

https://discord.com/channels/1284918645675397140/1391079668941193236

[versed owl]

oh nvm i understood now

its because of the mod

[paper gale]

wondering if anyone can help me with understanding how the dodge cooldowns work, it seems to have a higher refractory(?) period between dodges since installing this mod which makes some attacks pretty difficult/impossible to dodge

[wraith pike]

Hey!

Indeed, there is a slight cooldown on dodging due to some feedbacks/suggestions that I received.

(The Animation Canceling was TOO effective/broken otherwise)

[paper gale]

i see! is there any workarounds to restore og cooldown for that or nah

[wraith pike]

Yes!

1. Converting the mod command.nxd file back to SQLite.

2. Editing the command table with SQLite Studio and adjusting/removing the cooldown.

3. Converting the table back to .nxd and replace it with the one in the mod.

https://nenkai.github.io/ffxvi-modding/tutorials/nex/nxd_editing/

I can't do/check anything right now 😅

[paper gale]

youre the goat i appreciate you!!

[wraith pike]

Here goes. Please open my mod folder and then copy/paste this file (command.nxd) into the folder of your game language (en for English, fr for French, etc).

[wraith pike]

In addition to this, I just uploaded an alt command.nxd file for players that wanted to use Burning Blade instead of Void Slash (Zantetsuken 1). Enjoy !

https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy16/mods/249?tab=files

[paper gale]

this is great dude! thanks a bunch :)

[wraith pike]

#💬〡general message

@dark epoch Coming back to your issue....

It seems that you are not playing in English.

-> Someone on Nexus Mods had a similar issue. It should be fixed if you play in English.

After switching the game language + system regional format, you need to restart the game and possibly Reloaded-II (which I always do).

[dark epoch]

Man, you're goated! Thanks a ton, it actually worked. I used to play in Chinese, and the two mods wouldn’t work properly together. Once I changed the regional format and game language to English, no more crashes.

Now the only thing left is figuring out how to adjust my custom controller layout for the Logos Unleashed mod. I think it‘s designed with the default Type A controller layout in mind, and it feels kinda awkward with my current button mapping.

[dark epoch]

also, if I may ask, these messages shouldn't matter right?

your eikonic overhaul mod also has these yellow messages.

[wraith pike]

Great news!!!

Yeah, actually, for Logos Unleashed, it might be the reason why it is not working with my mod if not set to English.

These localized nxd files are not in the proper folder.
If command.nxd and skill.nxd are placed in the correct folder in this situation, it should normally work with my mod if you play in Chinese.

In Logos Unleashed folder, go to FFXVI/data.
Then create 2 new folders:

• 0007.cs
• 0007.ct

Inside each folder, create a nxd folder.
And then inside the new nxd folder, paste a copy of both command.nxd and skill.nxd from FFXVI/data/nxd

[dark epoch]

DAMN! let me try this out to see this works, thank you!

[dark epoch]

well, it says it's unrecognized.

I think I'll just play in English, it's completely fine, thank you again for all the help!!

oh wait, I read your instructions wrong, i'll try it again.

Ok, I did exactly what you said and it works now when I play in Chinese, no more crashes. the only problem is that the skill description didn't match the English version, for example, air lunge. I think I'll stick with English for better clarity. thank you again for all the help and your amazing mod!!

[wraith pike]

Out of curiosity, do you mind sharing some screenshots on how it looks like?
(The skill description not matching the English version, etc)

And thank you for your kind words 🦾

[dark epoch]

So basically, when I play in Chinese, Eikonic Overhaul's skill description overrides Logos Unleashed's one, but I guess if you know what each of the mods does well enough, this shouldn't be a problem. @wraith pike

[wraith pike]

Hello everyone!
I will be working soon on an update which will remove custom swords & the passive effects from weapons to avoid conflicts with on-going (Alternative Armory System) and future mods such as UltiMarvelous.

I had a look at my modded equipment again, and most of the effects applied on the weapon are actually duplicated from the modded gear and accessories:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR4IeweTalXsneJYB58PIUZYxd6_o4vQBV3wTtFEfYME_IwL9rQ6JhvadJSIlLR1xtu7rQ-1Q1fCYZW/pubhtml

I would be happy to get some feedback on the following idea:

• 1. Reverting the weapon stats back to vanilla stats- > higher value overall, but with fewer differences between Attack and Stagger stats.
• 2. Keeping the weapon stats as intended by the mod -> more balanced overall, but lower values.
• 3. Have them both available for the players (alternative equipitem file on Nexus Mods)

[dark epoch]

I’m leaning more towards option 2. Since your Eikonic Overhaul mod already cuts skill cooldowns by a lot, the lower weapon stats actually feel pretty balanced. Personally, I like focusing on combos, so weaker stats just mean I get more chances to engage with bosses. But that’s just me, others might prefer the higher stats. So in the end, option 3 could be the best call, since it lets everyone play the way they like.

I'm more likely to stay with the current version, tho, because I do like those passive effects of weapons.

[cold pewter]

question, would it be possible to have an option that reverts the names of some changed gear back to their vanilla variants? most notable example being the bit accessories in the first dlc

[wraith pike]

Hello! I am unable to do anything for a while... so I would suggest that you try editing the equipitem nex table on your own.

With FF16Tools (for converting the nxd file back and forth) and
SQLite Studio (for editing the table itself).

#1311028338856562778 message

https://github.com/Nenkai/FF16Tools?tab=readme-ov-file#nex-nxd

The list of items I have changed is available here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR4IeweTalXsneJYB58PIUZYxd6_o4vQBV3wTtFEfYME_IwL9rQ6JhvadJSIlLR1xtu7rQ-1Q1fCYZW/pubhtml

[wraith pike]

Thank you for your feedback!

I will actually update some accessories in the future and then I will split the mod into different "modules".

That way, people can more easily choose what they prefer; Void Slash or Burning Blade, Weapon with or without passives, Burst Finishers, Custom Ability Loadout... 🙂

[wind niche]

Hello! I'm really sorry to bother, I have no idea how to convert NXD to SQLITE files to try and hopefully edit them myself. If it's okay for me to request, may I have a command.nxd file where the cooldowns for Ultimates are 90s basic, 100s upgraded, then 90s mastered for all Ultimates including Odin and DLC? I've read the tutorial but I just can't wrap my head around how to use the command prompt to convert files.

Edit: I've gotten help on how to edit the command.nxd file myself and am able to change cooldowns to my liking! I'm a noob when it comes to this kind of stuff and now I'm really glad I have an idea just how much work goes into this stuff lol! Thank you for your incredible mod!

[wraith pike]

I'm glad to read this! Editing cooldowns is quite easy once you find out how to convert the corresponding nxd file to sqlite 🙂

[strange dove]

I come for Odin being useful beyond a single gimmick

I stay for streamlined cooldowns

[versed owl]

i am here

[wraith pike]

Thanks! 🙂

@versed owl :
Please right click on the "Alternative command.nxd (Mastered Burning Blade)" and check what kind of file it is.

[versed owl]

properties?

weird

it is supposed to show nxd right

[wraith pike]

Ok, as I thought. You need to install WinRar and then extract the compressed file.

Then inside, just take the command.nxd inside the main_alt-command folder and copy it into the 007.en/nxd folder (where you can find skills.nxd, equipitem.nxd, etc).

[versed owl]

oh

oh

i missed the main point

Ya nvm its my fault

[versed owl]

Ya it is working And also thank you lol

[wraith pike]

Great!!! Enjoy 🔥

[wraith pike]

Hello everyone!

I have been working on a new update for a few days, changing different things as well as bringing back [Burst Finishers] in a less disruptive way. Basically, they replace the regular Magic Bursts only in some specific instance.

Full changelog can be read in the attached file. As usual, the new update should work fine with other gameplay mods (Logos Unleashed, Eikonic Parries, Eikonic Loadout, Custom Difficulty, etc).

Before installing this version, make sure to remove the previous public release (1.3.2) to avoid any conflicts.

Enjoy ! And please give me any feedback regarding those changes 🙂

PS: Regarding the mod's translation, only English will be supported from now on.

[wraith pike]

#💬〡general message

@versed owl
Are you using any other mods?

Are the game and system regional settings set to the same language?

I feel like another mod may have overwritten my changes.

[versed owl]

this is what i was using

sorry for late reply i was in college

[versed owl]

and yes both the game and regional settings are the same language

[wraith pike]

Thanks!

Can you try again without the Airborne Abilities mod?

It might be the one conflicting with mine.

[versed owl]

i will check it now

lol ya

its fixed

thank you

[wraith pike]

Awesome!

If you have some time, please try the latest version and share some feedbacks about it 🔥

Holding on a bit before releasing it on NexusMods.

[versed owl]

yes i will let you know once i try it out

[wraith pike]

Hello!

There is a new update (1.5.0 BETA), which will now split the gameplay and gear overhaul into 2 different mods.

Before installing this new version, make sure to remove the previous one to avoid any conflicts.

Other changes can be found in the attached changelog.

ENJOY!

https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy16/mods/249?tab=files

[inland raptor]

I have a question

In this skills is it supposed to appear this text under the skills in my game when i add the mod?

Like void slash etc

[wraith pike]

No, this pic is outdated haha.

I need to change those pics, same goes for the video on the mod page.

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However, some skills (such as Rising Flames or Raging Fists) have some extra lines in their description.

Void Slash (Zantetsuken Rank 1) is now performed after a Shift Shot on the ground with adult Clive.

[wraith pike]

New (updated) video with a general overview of the mod features:

https://youtu.be/YosSIx1xn_k?si=UtneWGEJ-LVZZVWl