0 clue how to mod, anyone wanna help? Just doing BGM changes
#0 clue how to mod, anyone wanna help? Just doing BGM changes
oblique tundra
i tried to use the methods here in the server, but NGL, none of them have helped, and all are extremly confusing to me.
I thin you had to download some sort of extracting files thingy, but im met with this
Wtf does input, output, and Extraction mode mean?
slim zinc
Input - the path to the game's pack file
Output - the path to the folder where you want the result to be saved
Extraction mode - says to the program if you want to unpack only one pack, multiple packs at once, or only a specific file from a pack.
Here's the list of which pack stores what: https://nenkai.github.io/ffxvi-modding/resources/asset_paths/
Those are relative to your game installation (ex. C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\FINAL FANTASY XVI\data\0001.pac)
If you want to modify the BGM, you will need to look around the sound packs (see the previous link). Also, you will need this tool to handle the audio files: https://discord.com/channels/1284918645675397140/1285811710225158165
oblique tundra
ohhh so under the Data folder, these corrolate to the ones in that link?
so I.E, 0018 is the music one
slim zinc
Yes
slim zinc
Yeah, just select that pac with the file explorer for Input, leave Extraction mode as is, and for output select the folder where you want the contents of the file
slim zinc
Any folder works (for extraction)
oblique tundra
and assuming its the 0018, all the extracted contents would be the games BGMs?
slim zinc
For making a mod, you should later take a look at this: https://nenkai.github.io/ffxvi-modding/modding/creating_mods/
oblique tundra
the output autoed to the Data folder
so like, in the data folder i can make a "BGM" folder anbd put it there?
ayyye got it
now the fun part
whats BGM_Battle_1 song? XD
But yea so now i need to use audiomog?
slim zinc
If it's not on the website, it's still not mapped.
Yeah, to handle the sab files (the audio format used by the game), you will need that tool
oblique tundra
it says drag onto the exe
like
drag the audio i wanna use onto the Exe itself?
barren pollen
Drag the .sab file you want to modify onto audiomog
oblique tundra
oh ok
Should i make it a copy or just take it out the files?
barren pollen
It won't override
oblique tundra
then just swap the wav?
slim zinc
Yes, with the song that you want to use as replacement (different file, same name)
slim zinc
Yes, it's the last step, so that you can repack the new song into a sab format
oblique tundra
need a json app...lol
cause i just get this
idk what one the guy used in his video, no link for it
slim zinc
From what I get from the tool's Github Usage info, when you dragged the original audio file (sab) to the tool, it should have generated a "project settings" json
Customization is optional, so you should just drag that file to the tool
oblique tundra
it generated a Project FOLDER
but not a project settings json
therers a rebuildsettings.json
and a trackusers text doc
oblique tundra
Customization is optional, so you should just drag that file to the tool
sooo the rebuildsettings thing?
for ref
inside
slim zinc
Yes, the RebuildSettings.json
slim zinc
Yep, so to make the game load that you need to create a mod following these steps: https://nenkai.github.io/ffxvi-modding/modding/creating_mods/
oblique tundra
oh boy. have to know one before the other tho lol
says the mod assest must be contained within the data folder
so like, is it...technically already in it then?
also would i have to delete that project folder?
well, didnt work
slim zinc
You should download the mod template (https://github.com/Nenkai/ff16.utility.modloader/releases/download/1.0.1/ff16.template.helloworld.zip) and:
- Delete the contents of the template's data folder. Put the new sab on a folder structure near identical (you can skip the pac number, 0018) to where the original was (FFXVI/data/sound/music/bgm).
- Modify the ModConfig.json in the template's root folder, so you can put your mod's name and your name as the creator.
- Zip the template folder with the same name that you have chosen for your mod, and drag it to the FFXVI window of Reloaded-II.
If you're really unsure, you can also download/use any previously downloaded mod to look at their ModConfig.json and overall structure.
oblique tundra
uh.........ok
on a folder structure near identical to where the orgianal was...
orginal what?
slim zinc
The original file, the one you're trying to replace. The mod loader needs to know what have you changed and where to find it.
slim zinc
Just create these folders in the template: FFXVI/data/sound/music/bgm (the first two were already in the template), and in the last one put the new sab file you created with AudioMog
oblique tundra
...whats THESE folders?
I think im just starting to be a bit of a burden ngl lol,
im really, REALLY trying to learn this but im kinda failing hard
like, the way im reading this it sounds like i need to recreating like 100 different foldfers
just to be...Identical
huh?
slim zinc
This is the template folder. Inside that "FFXVI" folder, there's a "data" folder
oblique tundra
i dont even get why i need to use a templet folder but alright then
slim zinc
Because if you don't use the template zip I linked earlier, you will need to do more things than you're already doing.
oblique tundra
i feel ive done way more then i needed to already lol
but ok
this is quite complicated imo, even if people say it aint
slim zinc
Let's just focus. Inside that "data" folder, create a "sound" folder. Inside the "sound" folder, create a "bgm" folder. Inside the "bgm" folder, put the sab file you created with the Audio tool
oblique tundra
so DONT delete anything then?
slim zinc
If you didn't delete the contents of the template's "data" folder when I said it earlier, do it now before creating those folders.
slim zinc
Yep, if you modified the JSON in the template folder like this:
oblique tundra
That box is?...
slim zinc
(All of the marked is the name of your mod, the box should also be modified to be "name.of.your.mod", as in ModId)
slim zinc
After that, you zip it, change the filename to "name.of.your.mod".zip
And drag it to the FFXVI screen of Reloaded
(Needs to be dragged to the left bar for it to add your zip to the mod list)
oblique tundra
didnt work
Think imma just scrap this idea
This is just frustrating now
Like I very much appreciate you helping but this is becoming really annoying, and a headache. More so when you don't understand annnnything
slim zinc
No problem. If you reached that point, the only thing to do is to cool it off lol maybe another day, you'll feel like trying again. If you do so, you should take a look at other audio mods, to see how did they manage to make it work.
oblique tundra
That dosint help
At all lol
Cause idk what to look for
But yeah, fact you make it look simple makes the frustration so much worse lolol
slim zinc
Look if the folders created are the same, if your json is missing something when comparing to theirs, etc. It is the same type of mod; I didn't say "look at other mods" for no reason. They had to make the same steps that you needed to do to make an audio mod for this game.
oblique tundra
Alright. Well thanks for trying ig, even if it was to no avail. Sorry to waste ur time man...
oblique tundra
@slim zinc idk if ur online but i wanna give a update
I did what you said bout lookiung at other mods. Question, If the music mod were to work, would the mod apper on the title screen>
like this
Cause if so, these are for whatever reason the only mods that work. Idk why
slim zinc
Yes, if the mod was correctly installed and activated, it should appear there
oblique tundra
Then no mod i install works EXPECT them...
See? Vergil is checked
Dosint appear on the title...
But it aint like i can test it cause I GUESS THE SAVE FILE BEFORE THE BARNABES FIGHT GOT YETTED
so i cant know if it works
slim zinc
You should reorder your mod so that it's placed on the list after the Mod Loader
oblique tundra
But if thats the case why can Animation Cancel and Enemy Stregthen work?
slim zinc
Is one of the other mods that you have active also a music-changing mod? Maybe that could be creating a conflict
oblique tundra
No
slim zinc
Okay, and have you tried booting the game with only the mod loader and your mod to see if it appears?
oblique tundra
Ill try in a sec. im tryiong to get to the Barnades fight rn to test it
i didnt have a save RIGHT before it, but one super close
Sooooo at first , it said the mods i had unchecked were loaded....so i relaucned via Reload 2 and it WORKED!
So i at the VERY LEAST got Bury the Light to work
progress
Alright...now what lolol
Im still trying to get my own BGM To work still
this is what my path is
I edited it since you said to follow what other mods were, and for example, bury the light is like this
...i think i see the issume. Hold on
oblique tundra
Yep, if you modified the JSON in the template folder like this:
so this is what im naming it, let me know if naming it like this is the right way
"ff16.music.timetofight"
FFXVI Time To Fight
"ff16.music.timetofight"
Is that right?
now to just make sure the mod just WORKS, are those the only things i need to change?
slim zinc
Yeah, the only part that can be skipped is the pac number (0018), but you can just leave it
slim zinc
so this is what im naming it, let me know if naming it like this is the right wa...
Yes, that and your name as mod creator on the "ModAuthor" field
oblique tundra
now for the Helloworld template, it has to match with this?
im including the 0018 to be save
safe*
slim zinc
Yes, but change the first folder name from "FINAL FANTASY XVI" to "FFXVI" (like in the other mod that you looked at)
oblique tundra
Alright
oblique tundra
now for the Helloworld template, it has to match with this?
this is the game folder
oblique tundra
now does the name of the files have to be "ff16.music.timetofight" ?
when you zip it?
slim zinc
Well, it doesn't matter that much the zip filename, but it is usually good practice to keep the same naming convention (at least, when making a mod public)
But you can just name it "TimeToFight.zip" if you want
slim zinc
Any works fine
oblique tundra
HAH! IT WORKS
So i think i know why
you HAVE to lauch the game VIA Reload 2
for a new mod
...unless when i first started to mod the game, when it said "You only have to launch the game in reload once" It means for ANY NEW MOD
but in the end i got it to fucking work!
slim zinc
That's because the Mod Loader creates a pac file (= repacks) the first time you boot the game with the contents of your mod, and the next time that new pac is already there with the games files, so it is loaded by the game; I think
Glad that it works!
oblique tundra
so even if i turn it off and on, it will still be fine?
so its only for a NEW mod
now to spend my day off doing the Xenoblade X Final Fantasy 16 crossover xD
slim zinc
When you turn off a mod and run the game through Reloaded it will delete that repacked file; if you turn it off but don't run the game via Reloaded it will still boot the game modded, I think (in any case, the mod itself will still be kept in Reloaded even if it deletes the repack)
Also, remember if you ship your mods to Nexus or other modding site to put the Mod Loader as a requirement for players to run your mod
oblique tundra
ff16 one right?
slim zinc
Yeah, it's also on Nexus, so if you publish there is a quick thing (when the Nexus mod creation page asks for a requirement, it lets you search and link to other Nexus mods)
oblique tundra
Alright. In due time tho lolol
but like
You will remember our names has to slap if used for the hunt themes