more balanced taiwan strait

[rare prawn]

the island is larger now. i put the version in another branch https://github.com/crunchybbb2-hash/OpenFrontIO/tree/taiwanstraitlarge

its also larger

[royal rune]

Do you want to upload this version instead

[rare prawn]

yes

[royal rune]

okay

[unique forum]

Might be a crazy question but I've seen a good amount of what I think are genuine chinese players are on the game. I'm sure the game maybe isn't supposed to be available in China but in case it intends to at some point or for those who do play from China would this be considered a political issue?

[royal rune]

we have Hormuz and we are getting a Middle East map in v32. Whatever attempt to keep the game not controversial left a lot time ago

[unique forum]

How far east does the middle east map expand too

Pakistan?

[royal rune]

arabia and iran i guess

[unique forum]

I wonder how many maps Saudi Arabia has made it into

[royal rune]

not much

let me pull up the chart

[unique forum]

MENA, Mediterranean, Africa, Asia, World, Hormuz

[royal rune]

this doesnt have v30 and v31 maps

nvm it does have v30 ones

North America got a fair amount in v31

i should update this

[unique forum]

Need a King County map

[royal rune]

thats Washington , right?

[unique forum]

Yea like this

[royal rune]

i want to do a Seattle map, but i cant decide on the proportions

[unique forum]

I feel like it'd be interesting because the big lake

What do you mean can't decide on the proportions?

[royal rune]

errr look

[unique forum]

Something like this would be nasty

[royal rune]

first option: (city proper)a "bay" map, would play like SF
second option: (city and also extra land to the left) a more friendly baikal
third option: (the whole puget sound / metro area) yenisei type of map

[unique forum]

I think the 2nd would be really good but the only issue I have is that the gap looks a little concerningly big

if it was artificially kinda warped closer together to close that gap I think it'd play very interesting

Doesn

[royal rune]

its closer than baikal, i dont think it would be as hard

[unique forum]

Doesn't have to be like super close but I'm scared it might end up like Baikal

Okay but Baikal is also like an extreme

[royal rune]

the gap in baikal is HUGE

[unique forum]

I feel like a good space between two land masses in something like that would be like

The gaps between the two main parts of ant artica on world

[royal rune]

well i could always make a small-ish map

[unique forum]

I'm kind of interested in the one I proposed being 3 separate big water masses being the ocean on the left, lake in the middle, then river on the right

All disconnected

I haven't had a chance to play any maps yet with the new port thing

So the idea still kinda excites me

But if you had to do one of the ones you were already planning I suppose 2nd I think looks the most fun to play, if it maybe had the same size as like Australia maybe? Including the water not just the land

But that's just kinda eyeballing it

[royal rune]

yeah, this is what i mean with "i cant decide"

all options i think are very interesting

[royal rune]

i think i can combine 1 and 2. 3 (puget sound), could be its own thing in the future just not right now

[rare prawn]

hi

do i need to merge the main branch and the fixed taiwan strait large branch together

[royal rune]

also slightly on topic i have considered a shanghai map, but havent done anything with the idea because i thought there were like no chinese players. If you say there is a chinese playerbase however, i might work on it

[royal rune]

you could but you can also make a PR for the branch. I will work on that , dw

i have been talking to evan because the current PR had some bugs

[rare prawn]

i also found the yellow sea map quite interesting

we don't have a bay map yet

[royal rune]

san francisco

[rare prawn]

oh yeah

but the peninsulas are cool

another idea for china map

[royal rune]

korea also probably needs to happen at some point

[rare prawn]

right

also i'm currently working on a scandinavia map because it's in territorial

we need to add all the TT maps to openfart

last one missing is scandinavia

[royal rune]

Scandinavia has been very suggested yes

also theres a caucasus map in territorial?

[rare prawn]

the tt caucasus one is similar to Between two seas

Very similar

Nearly identical

[royal rune]

i see

[rare prawn]

oh but the TT one has the balkans and the between tow seas doesnt

but roughly the same

[rare prawn]

https://github.com/openfrontio/OpenFrontIO/pull/3877 new pr for the balanced version

[royal rune]

alr

[unique forum]

THIS LOOKS GREAT

caps

I used to see a ton but not like any as of recent

[royal rune]

the map-generator got updated. And your second PR still does not load its reviews. I might just upload a PR myself tbh, you will still get the credit

[rare prawn]

which map generator

[royal rune]

to make a map you use the go run command yes? that command works with a file called map-generator

[rare prawn]

yep

[royal rune]

https://github.com/openfrontio/OpenFrontIO/commit/365402bbc7ff15cecb75257dd19df1ee0ad2bd7f

[rare prawn]

does this mean the command is broken now

[royal rune]

not broken, but it might be outdated. Evan told me just to make sure to just re-run it with the updated one

dont do anything rn, i will take it from here

[rare prawn]

ok

[rare prawn]

i pressed the sync changes button in vs code
for both branches of the fork
are the map generator updates applied now

[royal rune]

uhhh i will check

[royal rune]

close your PRs, i made a new one with everything to date https://github.com/openfrontio/OpenFrontIO/pull/3878

dont worry, you will get full credit for the map

your PRs were bugged or something, and they did not review automatically

this was yours, and it didnt have the new "Generated maps up to date (pull_request)"

[royal rune]

your map got added, check the dev site

https://main.openfront.dev/

[rare prawn]

tyyyyyy for fixing the bugs!

sry i was playing openfart for 3 days didnt reply

The google ai said my pr's did not review automatically bc im new and the bot doesnt trust my acct yet

[rare prawn]

also how did u get rid of the tiny single pixel islands that definitely have no purpose

[royal rune]

the map generator automatically does that

it deletes islands smaller than 30 pixels, and lakes smaller than 200 pixels

[royal rune]

i noticed you were in a ultimus rex video. I think i have seen you in his streams

[rare prawn]

yep but i keep dyng early

[royal rune]

i normally play as "8 billion dogs"

in his streams

[rare prawn]

Ooooh

OOOH

i seen u before a lot lol

never knew you were 8 billion dogs

[royal rune]

i get very far in his games but i am horrible with endgames especially with very skilled players

yea

in normal games i do play as Tristar

[rare prawn]

i play as crispybbb but my accounts use crunchybbb

[royal rune]

@rare prawn okay it needs balancing

im going to balance it for you

[royal rune]

both sides are now 450k

dont do anything i will make the PR

[rare prawn]

Lol i made a balanced one too before i read your message but lol yours is probably better

[rare prawn]

you can use yours, im fine with it

[royal rune]

why is yours 500k

did you use the big big version?

im using the version in game, i think it plays fine

[rare prawn]

its 500k because i simply made the island bigger and the mainland smaller

before west is 600k and island is 400k or somthing

[royal rune]

hmmm

[royal rune]

problem is that it messes up the quality 😭

and the map generator might delete some islands

im just gonna use the cropped version

[rare prawn]

i didn't crop it because that would remove some of the large cities that i used as npcs on mainland

but then the quaity would drop

Also will rebalancing mess up all the nation bots

[royal rune]

i just renamed them to other cities

[rare prawn]

ok

[royal rune]

i only renamed 2 anyways

[rare prawn]

the npcs are totally in the wrong place

let me do it then

[rare prawn]

Most of the npcs in the mainland are taiwanese lol

[royal rune]

thats normal

its 2 teams, the game will just randomly place them

[rare prawn]

why are there npcs with chinese flags on the taiwan , and also vce versa

[royal rune]

they are taiwanese cities, they just spawned in the left side because they were assigned red team

and red team will spawn on the left side

[rare prawn]

ok

[rare prawn]

so you mean there is a 2 teams mode and the npcs will spawn randomly on randomplaces

can u send me a image of the npcs in ffa mode, they will spawn in the corect place then

[royal rune]

yeah, in team games the NPCs can spawn wherever

[royal rune]

sure

[rare prawn]

A image of the map in https://openfront-map-editor.netlify.app/ also works

[rare prawn]

ok

correct position

[rare prawn]

where can i test your updated version

[royal rune]

i will make a PR

[rare prawn]

is this an error on my repo

btw

[royal rune]

No just sync it

press sync

[rare prawn]

pressed sync

[royal rune]

is it thw taiwan branch? You can delete it

since the map got in the game

[rare prawn]

its the main branch

[royal rune]

weird

oh wait its because you made the changes in the main right?

delete that repo, and just make a new one

but this time use branches

[rare prawn]

i just realized the china side needs rivers
So i made a totally new version
Both sides are still balanced;same size

when i made the old version i didn't know how to add rivers yet

There aren't many rivers in this region but better than nothing.

i also changed npc's and removed the meme ones

There used to be a "Chinese Military Base" npc but i think that might be ... uhh a bit too controversial 😅

the files are in below, pls use this version instead (if you want)

[royal rune]

sure i will take a look at it

[rare prawn]

👍

[royal rune]

i combined both maps

i kept the rivers and your new nations

[rare prawn]

this one even better

[rare prawn]

is this a bug, i'm playing on the localhost version, why the nations don't spawn on any map

[glad falcon]

that would be cool

[rare prawn]

An then all of a sudden the nations are spawning again

[royal rune]

good news

[rare prawn]

Right now the nations spawning back

[royal rune]

its weird it also happens to me

[rare prawn]

now its working

[royal rune]

i think you need to wait some seconds for the nations to spawn

[rare prawn]

i check the console and nothing seems weird

[glad falcon]

seattle IN ?

[glad falcon]

clear cache, then try 400 nations

looks like some are spawning in

[royal rune]

i have the files

#1502547704474243144

[glad falcon]

NICE this would be a crazy map

island bunker,s straits, large landmasses, bays, has it all

[royal rune]

im uploading it for v32, i already have a mental list of what maps im gonna upload

[rare prawn]

actually it is still broken

[glad falcon]

😭

[rare prawn]

have no idea why the nations don't spawn on any map

[royal rune]

test them using Humans vs Nations

Impossible, in Easy only 1 spawns

[rare prawn]

doesn't work

[royal rune]

did you set it to Impossible

[rare prawn]

yes

[royal rune]

weird

[rare prawn]

it only happened on the new fork i made

[royal rune]

start a new game, but wait like 10 seconds before spawning

i think the nations take some seconds to spawn

[rare prawn]

it actually works

they spawn now

I think the bug is, they removed the "Chooes a starting lcoation" timer in the dev version but the nations still take random times within that interval to spawn

The timer thing is gone

[royal rune]

yea

[rare prawn]

also tomorrow can you make the taiwan map larger
maybe 2x
idk
the pixel count is only 1m, a bit larger than pangea, that is too small for twoteam games i think

[royal rune]

pangea is only 500k

1M is larger than world

its like the size of australia and iceland

[rare prawn]

oh but still way smaller than baikal i think

i thought pangea was 700k or smth

[royal rune]

tbh i think its good if we had variety, baikal is the big team map

[rare prawn]

ok so your thinking small team and big team
cool

that work too

[rare prawn]

And btw you have a seattle map coming and that is also kinda 2 team

i can keep this size then

[royal rune]

yes

[royal rune]

Okay the PR got merged

[rare prawn]

great

[rare prawn]

btw why does the fonts on the dev version look different now

the outlines

It reminds me of warfront.io

Any way to turn it off, it looks weird

[royal rune]

yeah it looks very weird

theyre probably just testing stuff, they will change it probs

[royal rune]

your reviews are now loading

[patent tusk]

"Taiwan Strait" is a genuine geographical location and is in Geography books of China so i don't think it's a problem (DISCLAIMER: I'm not from Mainland China)

[unique forum]

Yes. I was stating that because I imagine if the game ever wanted to get servers in China, they’d probably not want this to be a map in the game.

I’m not aware of the specifics on it but China can have strict censorship laws regarding games.

[patent tusk]

I know the Chinese are calling the Strait 台海 so as long as the name is translated into that it's prob fine

But the main problem is the flags

When u choose your flag there's a choice called "Taiwan" that's the real problem

[unique forum]

I don’t know about that. I’m not sure how it is in game censorship, but China’s One China Policy is very strict and they’re very sensitive about the subject. I’m fine with this map personally, but it’s certainly going to convey a certain idea.

[patent tusk]

Yea I'm not sure cuz i live in Hong Kong

[unique forum]

Pretty sure you can’t even say Hong Kong or Taiwan on Genshin Impact because the Chinese government doesn’t like it.

[patent tusk]

I never played Genshin Impact but if that's the case... 🤔

[royal rune]

you can select the Taiwan flag when playing , so its not like this map came up with this controversy

[patent tusk]

Mentioned ig