#Complete solution to Clans/organized teams: Randomized Teams + - possibly - Randomized instances.

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flat carbon
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So you wanna "nerf clan" because you don't wanna join one ?

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That's the point of clans, playing with your friends in team games

deep ivy
# flat carbon So you wanna "nerf clan" because you don't wanna join one ?

I dont want to play with clans because the novelty of the game is to meet people youve never met and be forced to communicate using limited emoji's and simple texts. The frustrations, betrayals, action and lack thereof all make for a fun and exciting sort of human experience.

Clans or friends that are organized over voice chat or similar or multi-users gain an unfair advantage thats unlike anything in any other game and even in many of those pre-made parties often have their own lobbies nowdays.

Why do you want to play team games with a bunch of randoms that can't even properly write to each other?

flat carbon
# deep ivy I dont want to play with clans because the novelty of the game is to meet people...

Because I can also play against other clans, because some players are actually good even against an organised clan, and you can also meet people you've never met by joining a clan and speak with words which is much more effective considering the amount of players in team games that goes afk/sit on their troops/sit on their gold/don't cut the trade/don't build SAMs/don't send warships. It all happens except the frustration, well, still happens but less. Clans are a game mechanic, it's not unfair when anyone can put up a tag and play with friends

deep ivy
# flat carbon Because I can also play against other clans, because some players are actually ...

I don't want to play against you, I do not want a perfect game where people do what we pre-agree on, I do not want to build a social network here, I do not want game breaking strategies and meta builds that abuse intended mechanics like eating cheap 250k cities a cornered slave-drone builds near a cornered AI bot, etc.

You enjoy your type of game. I'd like a space without you. The only reason you'd like to be in games with players like me is because you gain an advantage over them and can beat them more easily.

I imagine a lot of casual players that aren't even on here would like such an experience where we simple play the hand we are dealt and do so on an even playingfield. My suggestion is for us and those that play like you would still have your current mode.

The only reason you'd fear my suggestion is because you'd probably have far fewer wins and feel far less powerfull in them because most casual players would likely join this type of randomized instance.

Those clan players and friengroups that want serious, fair and competitive matches would have that as well which they dont now without having to organize first.

flat carbon
# deep ivy I don't want to play against you, I do not want a perfect game where people do w...
  • the bot eating factories and cities to make gold things has been patch since they now delete structures
  • playing with a clan is not pre establishing everything, it's adapting to the situation and being actually able to communicate
  • I also play team games without my clan
  • the reason why I "fear" your suggestion is that there is not a big enough community yet and the lobbies already take ages to fill up + I don't like how the new main menu is made
  • it doesn't have to be serious and competitive, it's a game we can play as a clan and still play for fun and in a chill way
  • another reason why I don't support that suggestion is because ranked team games are bound to happen anyway and your idea seems like the same thing but worse, so no thank you
deep ivy
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We have three different games now queueing. One could be runnng Free For Alls , an other Team games, a third Randomize Team games. Thats it, you pick the mode that suts you. I dont understand why you want to chain me to you that wants nothing to do wth you and our playstyle.

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At the very least you should support allowing me to communcate with my random "afk team mates that dont do what they are supposed to". Inb4 you complain about toxicty as well. Id rather take that and a mute button that sit and try hard for establishing some kind of team spirit only to get fucked in a way couldnt possibly organize with the tools that are given to me.

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The fact that you see it as worse than ranked but the same shows you have absolutely no empathy for the vast majorty of casual players that do not want to nor are actually in the game to play a serious compettive match whom you roflstomp becuase you can. For you it might be the same, for us it would provde a respite ,lower the barrier of entry and increase retention of the playerbase.

flat carbon
flat carbon
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clans are part of the tools given to you, you just chose not to use them

deep ivy
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A mapsetting that's team based, preferably for small teams, without the possibility to have pre-mades so that all the people you team up with are randoms and so that you have to play with the limited emoji/text sends tools given to you.

So instead of "Team based 10x3 Africa 2x Money" t would say "Randomized Teams 10x3 Afrca 2x Money"

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And immeditately after this comes a "Team based 10x4 South America classic" for those that want to play with friends and clans, nothing lost.

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Everyone wins.

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Games fillup anyway. But one type of player isnt playing with a sock in his or her mouth / a hand tied behind their back as is the case now.

flat carbon
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if two people of the same clan are in different teams, they will probably end up teaming

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it's already happening in ffa

deep ivy
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Well the advantage of the mode would be that it would be a pain to organize getting with your clan mate due to randomized instances and the old mode would still exist so anyone wanting to team except for toxic trolls would join that. Plus t would make t readily apparent if they are teaming and in the future people should get banned for it. Its a problem in free for alls but here it would be easier to spot and ban.

flat carbon
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by randomized instances you mean random spawn ?

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or only random teammates

deep ivy
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No, the randomized instances would be like, imagne ou step into the door of the game

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but behind it are 3 more doors

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and the game kicks you into one of those

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and does the same with everyone else

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chances of you ending up with your buddy would be smaller the more doors

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but wait times longer, so a compromise would be lke 3-4

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would work for small team games where numbers are small anyway like 10-3's

flat carbon
languid vapor
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Whats your suggestion ondis?

flat carbon
languid vapor
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We already have randomized teams

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None of them are "pre-made"

flat carbon
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like that

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languid vapor
flat carbon
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he's complaining about clans being able to communicate and it being harder for other players since they can't communicate properly

languid vapor
deep ivy
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Its the reason why sometimes you see players just sitting in a corner dronining and dumping everything, then they switch doing this the other game. etc. + the communication and meta abuse strategies that have to be patched

languid vapor
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Then in that case, he's right. That gives clans an unfair advantage. Just look at how high clan UN is on top of the leaderboard!

deep ivy
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Saw UN clan abuse the city strat previousl mentoned too, which got me thinking and the trigger was a probable multiboxer.

People even without clan tags get on each others teams, not sure how its done , maybe they enter and exit the game until they are on the same team? if theres no option for this?

So perhaps what we need is an actual "team/frends" mode and one that is the opposite, since this is good for nobody if ppl have to abuse it to play with friends if they arent a clan

languid vapor
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I dont know about you eiwa, but i kinda agree wiht him

flat carbon
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  • still think it is not abuse if it's intentionally part of the game ._.
  • "sitting in a corner dronining and dumping everything" that's the point of being a support, you stay in the back and feed troops while sending nukes, not clan related just logical, you will hardly ever/never win if everyone is trying to attack ._.
  • UN is a scam people use this tag because they see and they're not even actually part of it and on the other side, that's what clans and leaderboards are for
  • city/factory strat is still patched
flat carbon
languid vapor
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like what?

flat carbon
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but I mainly think the player community needs to grow bigger first

deep ivy
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So the pre-setup team not only has communicaton advantages once the game starts but before it starts it has strategic advantage. Worse yet in a 5 million game you can split nuke launchers and organize instant barrages so ordinary players stand no chance for example, because you have to defeat the initial sam launchers

languid vapor
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I bet this chat has the word count of a high school essay

flat carbon
# languid vapor like what?

the thing where there's a lobby with 90 players cap, it's a 10 teams of 3 (trios) , and once you have to spawn you're sorted in one of the 3 different lobbies with 10 teams of 3. Afaik, this is the mechanic that is supposed to come for ranked teams and ranked ffa (except that in ranked teams, you'd want to keep the clan tag)