I like spawning at the last second
#1v1 Grace period
hasty fractal
wary hollow
I like spawning at the last second
Not that as in can’t attack for 10 seconds or so
humble hatch
spawnkill ranked when ?
wary hollow
Bump
pine raptor
30s passive
wary hollow
30s passive
Yeah agreed
hasty fractal
I'd like to see it hidden spawns tbh , where are they, who knows, you have to find them when it starts
manic urchin
I've never seen spawnkilling actually work
As long as you ignore them and attack bots strategically, you can easily outgrow their troops and income, allowing you to make cities while they struggle to keep up
They pretty much always die as a result
humble hatch
I've never seen spawnkilling actually work
then you've never been spawnkilled
humble hatch
I believe it's 5 only ?
wary hollow
Is there not already a 10 second immunity?
It’s 5 seconds and it does nothing best doing a 30 second grace period like in the ofm
manic urchin
then you've never been spawnkilled
I guess not
Idk it sounds like a skill issue to me. Someone attacking you immediately as the game starts will always put them at a disadvantage. Unless you're fighting back or being ganged up on, you should always be able to beat them
humble hatch
okay so, when I say spawnkilled, I mean right away, like at the start of the game, you haven't even started to expand yet, and the other player is right next to you and fullsends
which leads to that
that's spawnkill
wary hollow
Idk it sounds like a skill issue to me. Someone attacking you immediately as the...
Skill issue 💔 when one of the top players has agreed with me ✌️
wary hollow
Bump
wary hollow
Bump
toxic breach
30s passive
30 sec is too much
10 seconds.
Playing close and risky is a strat. Spawnkilling isnt'.
wary hollow
30 sec is too much
No it’s not there’s a reason in competition there no spawn killing because it ruins the game for people, it requires no skill. You can still spawn close with immunity but it guarantees no spawn killing
toxic breach
30 seconds is too much.
After your initial expansion you can't just be 100%'d that easily.
my own idea is to make an aoe exclusion zone around spawn. so two people cant' spawn too close toether
and no spawn immunity.
and i'd make that feature global. ffa and teams and ranked.
nobody likes being spawnkilled. this is a systemic, permanent solution.
You don't ban the equivalent of a dark age rush strat in AOE2, because somebody is abusing game mechanics to kill you 1 second into the game.
The tension that you can be pushed early on is a part of decisions you make during gameplay. 30 seconds is almost a free anex. Waaay too much when punishing an annex strat is to push and cut them off.
10 seconds in you've expanded, built up your troops and you need to read your opponent on what he's going to do.
humble hatch
15 secs ?
wary hollow
10 seconds in you've expanded, built up your troops and you need to read your op...
Compromise at 15 then because 10 is too little and after 15 if the guy attacks you they’re guaranteed to lose
toxic breach
30 sec is in the game now.
humble hatch
Too much