Add the ability to transport units via railway, edited

[trail wasp]

Adding land transport would allow for attacking through allies and not being trapped unable to expand, I am aware someone else has suggested this but my idea to add onto this is giving them trading capabilities

If this gets added it would be perfect to add tanks that get made in universal vehicle factories and they have the ability to destroy land transports and capture trains and trade vehicles like how battleships can capture trade ships

Last thing, not saying I need it, it’s more of a would prefer if it was there: allowing defence posts to shoot down transport units and tanks

Introducing these features would not only be an entire update in itself but it would add ways for landlocked people to trade and add new forms of strategy greatly improving the gamers experience

Add land transport and tank factories

[trail wasp]

bump

even though its at the top

[trail wasp]

bump

[vestal heath]

Land transport is a cool idea. Functionally identical to boat, except it crosses ally territory instead of water.
I'd say ally is a requirement, would want troops to pass over neutral/enemy territory

[trail wasp]

Although you make a good point what if your landlocked by someone bigger or equal size to you and doesn’t ally? What then? Because if you attack them you’re most likely done for so it would be preferred if you could send transport units over neutral and ally. Not hostile though because they would like have a border closed off to you or smth

Bumpy bumpy, oooh such a good time

Bumpy bumpy, shoes all in a line

[vestal heath]

Add a "open borders" action then, like in Civ games

Like trading, which you can block/allow with players, you could allow transport. Wouldn't make sense tho because why would I?

[trail wasp]

An idea I just has was if people left their borders open for trading paths would earn money when trader cars went through. Sort of like a transport fee like in real life

So then you benefit from leaving borders open

[trail wasp]

Bump

[hazy knot]

why not adding some aerobase with fight planes also? they could attack areas at distance and warships

[formal oak]

I like the idea with tanks and transports it will give a bigger verity for land combat since the only thing you can do his send troops to team or to atack the only real way to win is nukes and you got way more picks with that then troop combat

[trail wasp]

and an addition to that would be SAMs could shoot them down for balancing

maybe add 4 classes of bomber planes, and fighter planes.

class 1 bomber: small explosion no radiation

class 2 bomber: medium explosion no radiation

class 3 bomber: large explosion no radiation

class 4 bomber: hydrogen bomb

and the fighter planes can shoot down airborne targets and maybe naval and land

[vale sonnet]

I like this idea but definitely would need a permission button kinda like an alliance to allow transport through your territory

[trail wasp]

We discussed that

Just scroll up a little

[versed rover]

isnt there kinda land transport already? The trains

[formal oak]

No land transport they mean troop transport

[versed rover]

oh mb

[formal oak]

Yeah its ok

there wording was a bit off

[trail wasp]

i dont mean to be offensive but WHAT PART OF ATTACKING THROUGH ALLIES REMINDS YOU OF TRIANS?

[formal oak]

I think because trains can go throw allies. and trains are use for a transportation for troops and supply's in a irl war

[trail wasp]

Fair enough

[trail wasp]

bump

[trail wasp]

Bump

[trail wasp]

bump

[raven kestrel]

what if you upgrade your factory to a certain level it will be able to send tanks ? to not add a different building

or you can just make it so that every factory can send tanks if they will work like boats, because factory costs the same as the port and is kinda the same type

[trail wasp]

well if you were to add a different building you could be more strategic and place them in places like borders for quick and easy tank support, but if the regular factory was to also produce this unit then you wouldn't be able to place as many due to high rising cost because of a buildings rise in price per unit meaning unless your rich as flip you cant realy have much tanks. also tanks should be used late-ish game and everyone gets factories quite quickly and could use tanks to stop trading before it starts

[raven kestrel]

but devs already made factories and ports share the cost so it's possible that if they add a new factory it will be the same?

[raven kestrel]

people do use ports to stop trading in early game too.

if port can allow you to trade and send warships, then why factory should be different and separated? that was my point. currently factories only give you trade, if you add tanks to them then it will be the exact land counterpart to a port

[trail wasp]

Fair enough

If they did that it would make it easier to add and make factories practically a land version of ports

[trail wasp]

Brotha this is an entire revolutionary update in one section and it ain’t even that much

[trail wasp]

Bump

[severe mantle]

I would fw this idea more if factories were worth stealing trade from

Or bothering with at all

But i like the idea otherwise

[trail wasp]

Well if they did that they would have to make trains spawn slower

Otherwise they would be OP

[trail wasp]

Bump

[trail wasp]

bump

[bronze yacht]

dislike. this all just makes land too much like water.

[trail wasp]

and how is that a bad thing? imagine your landlocked between your allies in a free for all, just say your gg's cause they will see your just an easy target thats taking up space.

adding this will create a way for landlocked people to spread

and it will also add a whole new sense of strategy

[bronze yacht]

It's a bad thing because you're taking the two most different types of terrain and making them more similar. Remember it's all just pixels either way. Making land able to be traversed like water is going in the direction of just making the map all water. Avoiding getting landlocked is part of the required strategy now and making land more like water just simplifies the game even more. If you don't want to be landlocked you have to plan for that.

[trail wasp]

but it will be cool and also add a whole new dimension to the game

rather than just having to worry about naval invasions and putting up defence posts for nearby poeple you also have to make sure you have a good tank defence or one that can be quickly summoned if needed

[bronze yacht]

It's not really a new dimension though, it just means you need to defend land borders similarly to water borders... because you're just making land more like water.

[trail wasp]

you are right

but it would still be a cool update

[trail wasp]

bumb

bump*

[tender minnow]

I sometimes want to be able to cut people off from bots/other players, or to be cut off from someone. No, I don't want to intentionally cut off teammates, but I might want to claim some bots as mine especially against a temporary ally.

[trail wasp]

I hate knowing my minutes are numbered because I can’t expand and my temp ally will kill me for my factories

[tender minnow]

I'm not trying to block them from expanding so much as block them from expanding in a particular direction while they have other options. Or I'm trying to claim certain bots at the edge of the map for myself. When I do this, I will often leave some bots for them - I just want to ensure I get the ones I want.

[trail wasp]

No I was just saying when you are blocked even if it’s unintentional it’s still annoying and you should be able to have a way to expand elsewhere

[trail marlin]

bump

[inland jungle]

Don’t landlock yourself then. Be careful with who you ally with.

Everyone is trying to turn this game into Civ5 by adding more gameplay mechanics. This is a .io game, it doesn’t need much more complexity than it already has. It already has a great identity that stuff like this will ruin.

[trail marlin]

There is already boats. Why not spice it up some more... The more differentiated it is from titles like territorial the better.

offering more but remaining simple is what made open front popular in the first place

[tender minnow]

I still strongly dislike the idea of being able to attack through an ally without their permission.

[trail wasp]

If they don’t want to help you expand further out and grow are they really your ally?

[tender minnow]

Unless it's a team game, it's a temporary alliance of convenience, not a marriage until-death-do-us-part.

[trail wasp]

It’s more it would be beneficial for you and your ally if you were stronger because then you can actually do something of importance like help wipe out a bigger enemy or donate more supplies making it better for both parties

Would you rather have an ally that can actually help your or one Thats just taking up space

[tender minnow]

When I make an ally in the early game when we're both eating up bots, it's initially just a "let's not attack each other and play nice". There's not much trust, but we also both recognise that an early war hurts us both.

Over time, if the alliance sticks, trust can start to build, especially if we have opportunities to cooperate against a common enemy. But even then, I know that the time may come when it makes sense for one of us to backstab the other to push for the win. I expect them to do it if given a chance, and don't hold it against them (although I will attempt to stop them if possible), and will do the same if the shoe ends up on the other foot. Even a solid alliance with a lot of trust is not a marriage until-death-do-us-part. I might like my ally to be strong, but I don't want them to have blanket permission to attack through my territory without my permission.

[trail wasp]

Either way that’s why I said this

[tiny wind]

(Just making a point without having read most of the conversation: if you don't want to be offensive, do not shout)

I'll add the fact that I think you somehow misunderstood the "bumping" mechanic
It is most efficient when used by other people, sporadically
Spamming it (and specifically for your own ideas) makes it useless and even dis-credits your ideas in my point of view

Great ideas, I want to add

[trail wasp]

Oh damn : (

So instead of saying bump I should just say something Thats relative to the subject which pretty much does the same thing?

[inland jungle]

Or you could just let the thread fizzle out, as it’s been active for 2 months now…

[trail wasp]

why would i do that? at that point it shows i dont truly want what i am pushing for

[inland jungle]

Just seems like you’re banging your head against a brick wall here trying to keep this alive.

The developers almost certainly have seen this thread given it has 55 checkmarks and yet no action has been taken after 2 months of conversation. They probably agree with the opinion that this isn’t in the spirit of the game.

<@&1369551800495116318> I would recommend locking this thread as it’s truly run its course.

[eternal escarp]

No it's fine

Just move on from the discussion and agree to disagree, it doesn't need to become a stalemate of opposing sides, it's the internet, just look at something else

[inland jungle]

Yes sir

[trail wasp]

Also random question i have 55 people agreeing for this one and 55 people agreeing for the chat one that I made and it was filled with moderators talking about it

Do you look on ideas based on their like count or based on if you think it’s a good idea

[fickle badger]

Like count can help to get it seen, but it's not exactly a democracy, as you cannot really crowdsource game design. All suggestions are appreciated but there is no guarantee that if something has many like it will get added, or of it has few like it won't get added

[eternal escarp]

The best way for something to be implemented is to submit a pr.

[mystic sphinx]

It would be very good if you could transport your troops by rail

so building factories would worth more

[trail wasp]

Would it be so troops enter through the factories and they have their own trains with a designated location that you selected on a track?

Because that would actually be a really nice idea because as you already said it gives factories more use but it also nerfs it a bit so it’s not too Op

[mystic sphinx]

good idea

I just thought u could transport your soldiers by their own train from the nearest factory u built and attack your enemies

[trail wasp]

I would also suggest a cooldown after each transport and it should be the same cool-down as the one for producing trains so it gives more reason to upgrade factories and build more

Also I think scrap the tank idea because defence posts should be able to stop transports

Or atleast slow them down

[mystic sphinx]

And transport should be allowed when any of your teammate/ally has factory and its range include border with attacked player

Also train shouldnt moving through area of any teammate/ally thats allied with attacked player because as it would be act against their alliance

[trail wasp]

I like the idea of the alliance block but you should also be able to close off your borders entirely

It might attract unwanted attention and make larger nations that want to go through you agitated but it should be an option

Add the ability to transport units via railway, edited

[trail wasp]

That should be a more fitting name : )

[trail wasp]

Heh, 69 likes