#Society of the Muslim Brothers: Flag
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wtf
No terrorist organisations!
Yes, it's not a terrorist organization
@hot swallow
obviously it's not
The Muslim Brotherhood is an Islamic group founded in Egypt in 1928 to promote religion. It works through charity, education and politics.
It's not a terrorist organization.
@blissful carbon
It's also not a real country or region flag, so it's unlikely to be added.
It is recognised internationally as a terrorist organisation. EU, Egypt, Saudi, UAE. Soon to be by US & UK. They’re terrorists bro
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In Russia they were recognised as terrorist organisation.
If you want to ban Openfront with only one added flag - go on, nobody will like it.
Feel free to make a PR of course, but don't expect it to be merged without a long debate.
I don't know.
That's a very important and complex question. The short answer is that there is no international consensus, and the designation of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization depends entirely on which country or government you ask.
The Muslim Brotherhood is one of the most influential and controversial Islamist movements in the world. Its nature is highly debated, and it is viewed in drastically different ways by different actors.
Here’s a breakdown of the different perspectives:
- Countries That Designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a Terrorist Organization
Several governments officially classify the Brotherhood as a terrorist group. Their primary reasons include:
· Egypt: This is the most significant designation. After the Egyptian military ousted President Mohamed Morsi (a member of the Brotherhood's political wing) in 2013, the government cracked down severely. It blamed the Brotherhood for violence and instability, banned the group, and designated it a terrorist organization. Thousands of its members were imprisoned.
· Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), and Bahrain: These Gulf monarchies see the Brotherhood as a fundamental threat to their autocratic rule. They view its ideology of political Islam and its transnational network as a direct challenge to their own legitimacy and stability. They designated it a terrorist group in 2014.
· Russia: In 2003, Russia designated the Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, largely due to its alleged links to insurgent groups in Chechnya and the North Caucasus.
Their perspective: These countries argue that the Brotherhood uses violence and political manipulation to achieve its goals, inspires radical offshoots, and seeks to overthrow established governments.
2. Countries and Entities That Do Not Designate It as a Terrorist Organization
Many Western countries and international bodies do not share this view.
· United States: The U.S. government has never designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO). While some U.S. politicians have pushed for this designation, successive administrations (both Democratic and Republican) have not done so. U.S. intelligence and diplomatic agencies distinguish the Brotherhood from groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS. They often describe it as a "political and social movement" with both moderate and radical elements.
· European Union (EU) and United Kingdom: The UK conducted a review of the Brotherhood and concluded that it was not a terrorist organization, though it noted that its "philosophy and activities may have helped create an environment conducive to the growth of terrorism." The EU does not list it as a terrorist entity.
· Qatar and Turkey: These countries provide support and a platform for Brotherhood members and affiliates, seeing them as legitimate political actors and allies, particularly against the block led by Saudi Arabia and the UAE.
Their perspective: These actors see the Brotherhood as a broad socio-political movement that has, for the most part, renounced violence and participates in the political process. They argue that blanket designations can alienate mainstream Islamist groups and push them toward extremism.
The Core of the Debate
The confusion stems from the Brotherhood's own complex history and structure:
· Founding and History: Founded in Egypt in 1928, its slogan is "Islam is the solution." Its early history included periods of political violence and assassination (e.g., in the 1940s). However, for decades, its official line has been to participate in politics and social work, publicly renouncing systematic violence.
· A Movement, Not a Monolith: The Brotherhood is not a single, centralized command structure like al-Qaeda. It's a global movement with branches in many countries that operate with varying degrees of autonomy. Some factions or individual members may have engaged in or supported violence, while the central leadership often disavows it.
· Ideological Influence: Critics argue that the Brotherhood's ideology (from thinkers like Sayyid Qutb) provides the intellectual foundation for more radical jihadist groups, even if the Brotherhood itself claims to reject their methods.
Conclusion
To label the entire Muslim Brotherhood a "terrorist organisation" is an oversimplification of a highly complex reality.
· It is officially considered a terrorist group by several Arab governments (most importantly Egypt) and Russia.
· It is not considered a terrorist group by the United States, the European Union, or the United Kingdom, who view it primarily as a political Islamist movement.
Therefore, whether it is "terrorist" depends less on an objective, universal definition and more on the geopolitical perspective and national security interests of the country making the designation.
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I don't want Openfront get banned in several countries just because govenments of these countries find out the game contain a flag of organisation they recognise as terrorist
We shouldn't play with a flame
And the game should contain only historical flags of states, not organisations.