odd marten
How many do you intend to make, And will they follow a traditional role system (Support, Tank, Damage) or will you try to make each on as unique as possible to avoid stuff like that?
(I dont think anyone has asked this specifically, but sorry if they have.)
odd marten
odd marten
I suppose another thing that comes with this is how detached from reality will the classes get, I know it’s already pretty detached and that’s not a problem for anyone clearly lol.
Another one I’d have is how will things like a difficulty one character be different from a difficulty 5, or will that be unanswerable since each character will be as unique as possible?
Also from a lore perspective would their be an explanation why all the shells look similar/the same or have the same abilities since striders are all supposedly from different companies competing for the resource
Would there be a lore explanation for that at all
odd marten
Also from a lore perspective would their be an explanation why all the shells lo...
Or different something’s idk abt companies
I’d assume they’re not all from the same origin considering they’re shooting eachother
tight plank
Im still not sure if those are classes or characters lol
placid iron
Probably classes?
Since they are shells they aren’t real people
I totally missed that part lol
Also, The "Tank, Damage, Support" already doesnt quite apply. Unless phantom will be able to support others with invis
odd marten
Support isn’t always as straight forward
I’d assume he falls under damage more than support but support also involves things like recon
placid iron
I’d assume he falls under damage more than support but support also involves thi...
Recon is a good point
But on the role of "Tank", unless there's a way to aggro enemies, its more like you just trade off speed and firepower for defense
placid iron
Oh yeah there certainly shouldnt be some magical "aggro me" move
But that IS the classical tank way
odd marten
I think the Aggro me thing about sledge is
If you leave him along he’s going to kill you Eventually
He’s got a pistol all he needs to do is shoot you with it a few times
And then the shotgun…
placid iron
True but if you aim at him he'll turtle, unless you're pyro
odd marten
True but atleast he’s not killing you while you’re backing him into various stage hazards
Sledge just requires patience and intelligence
placid iron
But thats when his teammates come in. Though i reckon thats where yours come in as well
odd marten
I’d hope so
lol
I’m sure every class will have a way of dealing with him
I’d hope anyways
I dislike the rock paper scissors style class formats personally
placid iron
Well, we saw flares being used so i'd say its a safe bet there'll be utils
So it may turn from rps to either specializing in combating certain classes or diversifying
Or its just pve
odd marten
Yeah I think the best team layout is someone good at pve
Someone good at PvP and someone alright at both
placid iron
Lets see then.
Pyro:
-Range: Short-Medium
-Defense: Low?
-Maneuverability: Medium?
-Damage Type: Universal, Group (Burn)
Phantom:
-Range: Medium-Long (short with windup)
-Defense: Low?
-Maneuverability: High
-Damage Type: Pierce
Sledge:
-Range: Short-Medium
-Defense: High
-Maneuverability: Low
-Damage Type: Pierce and Blunt
odd marten
Sick
placid iron
Now if we also analyze abno defenses we might actually come to a conclusion lol
odd marten
I see
tight plank
shells what does that mean?
i guess the 4th class will be a support like class
makes me excited to think about the possibility with classes love it
placid iron
shells what does that mean?
Shells are the player characters, i think
odd marten
shells what does that mean?
Shells are the player character in the game
tight plank
i do hope they stay with the looks of them as they all have no faces just masks or helmets on
thats really cool
odd marten
Yuh
Cosmetics are pretty iffy since we haven’t seen anything about them
I hope they don’t stray too far into fan service
Otherwise I don’t really mind
placid iron
It'd be pretty damn dumb to take off your helmet mid advanced combat zone with horrors beyond comprehension
tight plank
i guess camos and appearance skins will be the thing for these classes
as long as we dont see any anime or half naked character skins im fine
placid iron
They already said they'd avoid the "peter griffin" skin situation
tight plank
thats good
odd marten
It'd be pretty damn dumb to take off your helmet mid advanced combat zone with h...
Especially a gas mask in a foreign dimension
tight plank
as long as they stay with their art style in their gameplay trailers im completely in love with it
odd marten
True
placid iron
@odd marten check it out i found full res shots of the class skill trees #1430985765692637258
odd marten
Give you an ability and a health pool I think
placid iron
Improve abilities
Improve an auxiliary skill
Improve class weapon damage
odd marten
I’d have to rewatch the gameplay trailer
placid iron
I meant with the class tree
placid iron
For sledge for sure. Maybe with phantom those bullets mean specializing for either people or abnos?
placid iron
abnormality
odd marten
Ohhh alr
odd marten
Yuh
Phantom keystones would modify his active camo and his knife
Backstab is a keystone
placid iron
Dem aint no knives i've ever seen
placid iron
Thats the skilltree for phantom from the trailor though?
placid iron
kk
Its the skull one riiight off to the right of the picture i sent
the one thats bright
placid iron
Hahahaha
odd marten
Lobotomite
placid iron
Oh **-
placid iron
Yooo xD Yeah i said shhheee and got automodded
placid iron
ICR? I assume you mean their effects?
No, but they seem easy enough to deduce: Anti abno, anti shell, and supa stealth
odd marten
Icr=I can’t remember
I think the foot one is reduced sound profile
Then anti shell and anti abnos like you said
Anti this guy fr
placid iron
You've got to be manipulating these votes somehow smh
odd marten
I am the chairman
tight plank
so whats your guess what the 4th class will be?
odd marten
No idea
I’d kinda think it’d be cool if it was a support with a sound cannon that pushed ppl around
tight plank
my guess it will be support class like a healer or something like a recon
placid iron
That seems... highly specific
tight plank
a sniper idk
placid iron
Actually, phantom seems to have some healing talents in the skill tree
tight plank
yeah i know 😄
placid iron
while sledge has self heal
tight plank
but we dont have a class specific for healing your allies yet
maybe they dont even want something like that
placid iron
Since passive regen is a thing it might not be necessary, with the domeshield key skill of the sledge being prioritized instead
Damage mitigation instead of healing
odd marten
True true
Hence why I like the sound cannon
Pushing enemies away or friends out of enemy fire
placid iron
Thats still so oddly specific... you'd have to design the entire environment around it to not make it barely situational
tight plank
why? it still could be viable to only specific enemy types but not map specific if you mean that
placid iron
If you've got a push weapon to push things into environmental hazards, you better have lots of environmental hazards around is all im saying
odd marten
Not necessarily for pushing into environmental hazards
Just making space or stunning people
placid iron
Ah man but i feel like a stun class would feel terrible to play against
odd marten
So would an unbreakable shield class…
Or an invisible backstabbing class
Or a class that can bathe you in flames..
placid iron
Not the same
Using your own abilities without affecting the enemy is different from not being able to control your abilities & character
odd marten
May not be the same but that doesn’t mean they’d feel good to play against
placid iron
damnit how are you pulling ahead in votes so much??
odd marten
Also you can’t control your character if you’re instantly killed by something you didn’t know was coming
odd marten
damnit how are you pulling ahead in votes so much??
I guess people just want to know more about the classes
Idk
placid iron
I need your sagely advice, oh chair
odd marten
I think a lot of people see your question and don’t think about it very hard
oblique cape
like I was saying in https://discord.com/channels/1283296063020863518/1431111749930713200, the balancing makes everything look more like it'll be overpowered in its own way. we won't be nerfing things to make people feel better, we'll be buffing things to make everyone strong
odd marten
Yuh
placid iron
yuh
oblique cape
I truly thought My fancy gifs would draw more attention. sadly not
Zappe somehow dominating the threads
with no pictures
odd marten
There aren’t many class questions
And my question is basically
“What classes are you adding” with more nuance
odd marten
Zappe somehow dominating the threads
There’s still stuff out there with like 20+ votes 😭
oblique cape
but yours is hanging out at the top of the board because we keep yapping here
oblique cape
I wish I could sort by number of upvotes
odd marten
Also true
odd marten
You can change that in sort/view
placid iron
Let me try
earlier i saw no good options
Yeah theres only match some and match all
odd marten
Rip
odd marten
placid iron
Ay stop being alll smart and pushing yourself to the top of the list
odd marten
Tell me more about that
Nice try @placid iron
While your attempt to fool me would’ve been effective I’m a chairman for a reason
placid iron
You can still answer the questions in my thread...
placid iron
Lets at least agree to converse in each others threads and not just spam garbage
finite anvil
lol
who would do this 😄
odd marten
lol
spring warren
ngl a gas glass would be insane, though it wouldnt rlly work on most of the monsters...
placid iron
a gas glass?
finite anvil
class*
spring warren
mb ye, class
finite anvil
and tank
odd marten
What are we missing
finite anvil
need a good assault or recon
odd marten
Zoner I suppose?
placid iron
We have brute, ninja and my chemical warcrime
finite anvil
or stealth = recon
placid iron
need a good assault or recon
Recon can be done with invis
odd marten
A recon that pings things could be cool
finite anvil
then i would go for assault
odd marten
Scanner type
placid iron
We gotta wait until we know basically anything at all lol
odd marten
All in due time
finite anvil
We gotta wait until we know basically anything at all lol
true xD
spring warren
Pyro already has gas though
oh? sick! time to main pyro :D
spring warren
What are we missing
maybe movement or intel?
placid iron
Once again phantom
odd marten
oh? sick! time to main pyro :D
i cant legally threaten you to upvote this question
I can stare at you until you do
👁️
spring warren
i cant legally threaten you to upvote this question
I can stare at you until you...
huh
odd marten
maybe movement or intel?
phantom
but phantom isnt as much intel thats more of a secondary effect
spring warren
phantom
but phantom isnt as much intel thats more of a secondary effect
maybe a trapper of some sorts?
placid iron
I guess getting intel on surrounding abnos and more importantly players might be good?
spring warren
⏫
this button
fixed ;)
odd marten
true i would like to see a trapper
placid iron
maybe a trapper of some sorts?
That would break the whole "striving for an object" gameloop
Congrats zappe you now share 10th spot
*Yo tristan... check out my post #1430985765692637258 *
spring warren
true i would like to see a trapper
snares would be kinda insane, leaving enemies trapped for the creatures to grab
odd marten
gabriel holds 2 top ten spots
odd marten
That would break the whole "striving for an object" gameloop
not if there leave em and forget em traps
spring warren
That would break the whole "striving for an object" gameloop
i mean, it could stop ur enemies from catching up to u, leave them behind for others to stumble in to, could also work as a counter towards some creatures
odd marten
I cast CRASH SERVER
i cast
AUTOMOD
WFDFBV
awh he didnt get me
there it is
too many copy pastes
gotta seperate it
spring warren
is there some sort of support/heal class?
odd marten
[automod](https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1431295858015604876.png?size=160...
got my hopes up
placid iron
So far you can only see phantom have a medical looking skill
odd marten
is there some sort of support/heal class?
no unfortunately
placid iron
spring warren
is there a class with snipers? i'd say the tank one but.. idk?
placid iron
yap
spring warren
pain :(
placid iron
meaning yep but different
spring warren
ngl i wish we had 1 extra class with some of the stuff going to that class
spring warren
i mean, hear me out, trapping with fast based movement, and some intel stuff like recon darts n sensors?
odd marten
mybe
placid iron
i mean, hear me out, trapping with fast based movement, and some intel stuff lik...
Oh yeah, a trapper would with sensors instead of damage based traps
Thats actually pretty dope
spring warren
disabling and picking the traps back up could work?
odd marten
i dunno
a lot of players would think thats too tedious i think
its definitely a good idea
spring warren
calling them back from diff areas could possibly work, idk how but it could work
placid iron
Once we get more than 4 classes it'd allow those that truly wanted to do it to specialise
little lantern
Holy yappathon
placid iron
Ay we're supposed to discuss
spring warren
hello twitter! :D
placid iron
better than a dead chat
spring warren
we yapping abt a 4th class :P
odd marten
an info trapper would be good
maybe if you could make more traps as you looted
so it kinda snowballs
spring warren
mhm
odd marten
late game youve got a lot of intel but its not as useful cuz youre probably looking for the heli
spring warren
maybe it could also get a branch of some sorts with movement? allowing players to look for the heli faster?
odd marten
nah
i think
recon and then you can spec into making enemies caught in traps take more damage for a time
spring warren
maybe not titanfall movement but yee, just more speed or smth?
spring warren
recon and then you can spec into making enemies caught in traps take more damage...
fair
spring warren
maybe we could also get a heartbeat sensor for that class
inaccurate at the start but u can fix it and upgrade it to make it accurate and work for more stuff including creatures?
spring warren
yea fair
odd marten
grappler class fr
💀
spring warren
maybe the heartbeat sensor can get the speed for their heartbeats allowing the player to identify the creature with some effort?
spring warren
grappler class fr
💀
grappler?
spring warren
BAHAHHAHA
holding the lamp monster on chokehold while everyone else does their thing 😭
little lantern
Shadow Wizard Money Gang
odd marten
real
little lantern
spring warren
Shadow Wizard Money Gang
wizard class when?
little lantern
wizard class when?
spring warren
ITS WIZARD TIME MFF, FIREBALL
spring warren
hmm ngl idk, phantom is pretty broad isnt it?
odd marten
it is
little lantern
Phantom shall be every solo players dream and worst nightmare
odd marten
invisiblity is very wide spanning
spring warren
Phantom shall be every solo players dream and worst nightmare
same for every team's dream and worst nightmare...
odd marten
Phantom shall be every solo players dream and worst nightmare
yo a cloaker cosmetic for phantom???
would go hard
spring warren
we need a tf2 spy skin mod for the game
little lantern
Butterfly knifes
spring warren
bruh
spring warren
this auto mod is trying to bully us man
spring warren
real
mods, put the auto mod behind the drywall and paint an extra layer or paint over it
odd marten
what about a class that gives you more money when you beat a round
and thats all it does
but its a lot more money
or whatever you get out of winning
little lantern
Yo this is actually funny ash lmao
odd marten
Yo this is actually funny ash lmao
terra made it
little lantern
or whatever you get out of winning
odd marten
should get jax to make it a sticker
spring warren
stand user or curse user class when
little lantern
heheh
odd marten
yknow i think id like to see smth like doc
from R6
healing but also a health boost i think
or a doc rook hybrid (rook right?)
little lantern
uhh
odd marten
yuh
plate guy
let me just
yknow a cool class would be
a robot instead of a shell, so its slower and less manueverable, but way tankier
though i guess people would prefer sledge over it
but you could give it cool abilities and they could be practically anything
cyberware arm cannon ong
spring warren
i mean, if its a gold rush why would people want a slow robot? but i mean, then again, phantom would be the best bet with that
odd marten
robot to secure the victory
could easily carry any artifact with one hand
and have the other free for pretty much any gun
i may not have the most votes
but i certainly have the most messages
which checks out for the rank #1 i suppose
finite anvil
but what is when they filter some message ?
odd marten
eh theres no advantage to having a bunch of messages
finite anvil
better than most of the questions
and they will most likley pick more than 10 questions
finite anvil
have they stated that?
or is it more a assumption?
odd marten
stated
finite anvil
rly ? do u know where u saw this?
odd marten
rly ? do u know where u saw this?
#community-events message
finite anvil
ahh kk
odd marten
its gunna be a pain for the devs to dig through all these questions
i think im barely top 10
there are like ~6 above me
finite anvil
u still have time to get some more upvotes
oblique cape
activity posting I see
I'm kind of hoping there isn't a medic class, and medicine is based on standard issue kits that either you or your teammates can apply for you
finite anvil
but what is with a medic class that has simply a faster use time for medkits on teammates?
has a*
but still a support class will come
placid iron
Y'all said wizard class
The way to implement that would basically be a guy abusing abnos
finite anvil
or something like BDO tamer where we have a beast to summon for a limited time in battle
placid iron
Not necessarily what i meant. More like you can pull out vertex based shiny head imitations or summon indiscriminate swarms from behind the enemy
odd marten
I’d like a sort of
You get a top down view and you can’t see any entities while in it
And wherever you tap nearby enemies will swarm too
placid iron
idk if using an entire different UI is smart
odd marten
Not an entire yo
placid iron
Also, maybe we can loop back to the whole "trapper" aspect by making the class be able to leave behind hordes and slow down pursuers
odd marten
Also, maybe we can loop back to the whole "trapper" aspect by making the class b...
Nah I think it’d be cool if it was separate so there was team combos
“Trap went off here”
‘Ok lemme do a swarm’
odd marten
As it stands right now there’s no real team combos between the classes
The best I can see is like
Pyro stands behind sledge
placid iron
Maybe sledge also serves as a solid distraction
Considering he can bust down walls n stuff
That'll turn heads
odd marten
Yuh
But it’s not really a team combo of abilities if it’s just good team coordination
placid iron
Yuh
Well, you probably dont want to hard-code combinations
Thats going to lead to set metas
odd marten
finite anvil
up
finite anvil
.
hot raptor
They said one of their main inspirations for classes was TF2 so I expect there’s a class system like that but with their own twist
odd marten
yeah but im hoping they go a little original ykno
hot raptor
I feel you
I think with the spy style class they should rework it a tad so it doesn’t seem exactly like the TF2 spy kit
hot raptor
I really hope they don’t add the disguise ability because we have the invisible
owwww I was literally typing that 😭😭😂
hot raptor
😂😂😂
odd marten
finite anvil
.
odd marten
wary beacon
odd marten
odd marten
placid iron
Aw tysm
finite anvil
terra dont let him fool u he doesnt post it in general 😄
odd marten
Even though he’s beating me
placid iron
terra dont let him fool u he doesnt post it in general 😄
Nah thats a very kind gesture i fully appreciate
finite anvil
Even though he’s beating me
so atm zappe u are place 6 or7 ( 2 post with 25)
terra 5
iam at 3 atm
placid iron
Yooo im top 5?
placid iron
Great job btw dot
finite anvil
thx
odd marten
We’ll see I suppose
Hopefully they end it soon but I imagine they’ll end it around the same time they ended the wishlist one
placid iron
They end it tomorrow
finite anvil
Hopefully they end it soon but I imagine they’ll end it around the same time the...
i think they end it on 26 oct 3am my time
placid iron
Can you make that a timestamp for me dot?
odd marten
Says it ends on the 25Th for me
finite anvil
so 14hours and 39min
placid iron
odd marten
so 14hours and 39min
Yeah like I thought around the same time they ended the last one
finite anvil
Yeah like I thought around the same time they ended the last one
we will make the cut
and then we can playtest it
placid iron
Hold up let me boost my post
Y'all got any questions about armor upgrades during runs perhaps?
Thats the current topic
odd marten
odd marten
Yknow now that I’ve been given some time to sleep on it
I really have like no ideas
As to new classes
I had like two but they were eh
Somebody awhile ago said something about hacking other shells which I thought was cool
odd marten
.
placid iron
A sledgehammer bashing into your skull like the calm ocean wind blows into sails, propelling you forward.
odd marten
placid iron
What even is that thing he's pushing
finite anvil
.
odd marten
Njan carrying ❤️
finite anvil
try my best
odd marten
odd marten
finite anvil
push
odd marten
push
placid iron
odd marten
odd marten
odd marten
odd marten
yknow i think itd be cool if pyro could ignite his gas
odd marten
imagine gas into incendiary
azure river
actual CBRN maniac
odd marten
nuh uh
odd marten
what are sledge and phantom's abilities again terra?
wait i have the gifs
just realized
odd marten
weve only see 1 of phtanom's abilities
and 2 of sledges
so whatdyou think they can do?
do you think the devs have ideas yet or no?
odd marten
whatdyou think?
odd marten
Mmh
odd marten
Hmm
placid iron
whatdyou think?
That question is just honestly too difficult to answer straight up
odd marten
Foolings said a cool one would be wall scaling
placid iron
Ill just rank up your posts and wait for the devs opinion lol
placid iron
Foolings said a cool one would be wall scaling
Who needs scaling. We have destructing here
odd marten
Who needs scaling. We have destructing here
I don’t think walls will be destructible twin
placid iron
Hmm. Let me get on pc
placid iron
weve only see 1 of phtanom's abilities
and 2 of sledges
Well idk if those minor talents count as abilities
wary beacon
True, they don't seem to appear on the skilltree
odd marten
hmm
odd marten
.
odd marten
misty lily
placid iron
Y'all i appreciate the boosting but please, i want people to read the stuff we wrote
odd marten
It’s a shame they didn’t really answer my question but all the same I think the QNA went well a lot of the more important questions were answered
odd marten
what if there was a class...
that was the monster...
oblique cape
what if there was a class...
that was the monster...
Hmm. Sounds like something a DBD player would say.
odd marten
What if one class had bear traps and another had a chainsaw 🤪
What if there was a class with a speargun instead of a real gun
🤔
untold axle
What if there was a class with a speargun instead of a real gun
🤔
What if there was a class that could shock you ⚡️
Or if instead of nades you could throw hatchets 🪓
odd marten
Shoot bruh what if there was a class where you could teleport through walls or sumn
Maybe a class that like lets you whip people and give them a disease…
raw schooner
If there was a teleport class I think it would be broken on release
oblique cape
The current classes are grounded in reality, with cloaking and an explosive sledgehammer being about the maximum wacky currently implemented. Teleporting and other paranormal activities kind of don't fit the whole "we're at the mercy of the monsters" Theme
The last thing we want is a level playing Field between the anomalies and the striders
untold axle
The current classes are grounded in reality, with cloaking and an explosive sled...
All of the past few messages have just been references to dead by daylight lol
oblique cape
Figures
odd marten
Engagement bait go!
slow light
Engagement bait go!
It wasn't very effective....
odd marten
Got you though
slow light
True
buoyant viper
d
oblique cape
3 should be plenty, and they're currently balanced into attack, defense, and stamina. More classes means more balancing issues which means more whiny babies in the discord.
sonic sinew
3 should be plenty, and they're currently balanced into attack, defense, and sta...
You're right
modern plover
When is teasers gonna be used
oblique cape
When is teasers gonna be used
Teasers?
modern plover
teasers channel
oblique cape
Probably never
They like doing big updates, which will probably stay in the announcements channel
odd marten
teasers will probably be for when the games become 'public' in some form
