#Gloria

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ashen jolt
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ah so if i have a 90% reload module..it will help?

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so i just charge shoot 6 times and reload...or charge shoot 3 times and reload?

sudden saffron
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basically but it's only 3 weapon hits so you'd still do 3 normal shots reload if possible

ashen jolt
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im confused..i hit 3 times (charge shot)..and reload

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or 6 times and reload

sudden saffron
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no the frost reload perk only affects your next 3 shots then you have to reload again

ashen jolt
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i see..so charge snipe 3 times/reload

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do i rly need charge shot? How does normal shot work ?

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maybe charge shot vs boss..and normal shot vs mobs?

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that could work?

sudden saffron
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it's alright for like mobbing but you really want charge shot for bosses and elites

ashen jolt
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ya thought so.. My logic is good

sudden saffron
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like i said you kinda just have to get a feel for it

ashen jolt
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the snipe charge shot..is it affected by fire rate? i don't think so

sudden saffron
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yeah you store ammo aka fill the bar faster with fire rate

ashen jolt
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really? hmmm

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are u sure fire rate actualy charges faster? because fire rate should only affect the speed you shoot normal bullets

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not charge.

sudden saffron
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i've seen it multiple times after getting fire rate increases of the bar filling up faster

ashen jolt
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hmmm

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cap is 100%? i mean on fire rate/reload

sudden saffron
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not that i know of

void tinsel
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fire rate caps at 400%

ashen jolt
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oh dear

void tinsel
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SJay confirmed this

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LMAO

ashen jolt
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thanks.. Damn

sudden saffron
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which good luck hitting that without immortal and the proficiencies tbh

void tinsel
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yeah that is just Sjay levels

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you know how it is

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#🎮┆general-chat message

sudden saffron
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the thing i am curious about tho is if reload does affect the bar speed to now never thought about that i wish there was just an easier way to test these things

ashen jolt
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@sudden saffron damn..i tried..it's fuuuucking horrible..maybe this works in CA 0...but in CA 46....zero damage almost....yea staying at turrets/skill power...at least i had to try... maybe the reload/wep power/security gloria works but after u survive the first ,map.. it's a horrible start. 0 aoe/0 damage

void tinsel
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lmao

ashen jolt
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not the point

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point is weapon power/security gloria/reload charge shot is horrible in CA..at least at first map clear

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for me at least

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0 aoe/0 dps

sudden saffron
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well yeah it's not as free as skill damage or music like i said that's it's biggest flaw

ashen jolt
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maybe its broken op..after u survive the first maps

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to get the lv up on perks

sudden saffron
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it's most definitely a team build

ashen jolt
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lol i will keep trying...im rly currious about a maxed security build how it works

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yea

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u start weak as FK...but then u build up slowly into op

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reminds me of Whealth HAnk

sudden saffron
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yeah it's definitely not the best or anythign but seeing big number especially with the teddy 330% weakpoint proficiency is gucchi

ashen jolt
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❤️

sudden saffron
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it's probably the best weapon gloria build can have rn cause you can just roll crit perks on the side as well

ashen jolt
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oh fortune?

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yummy

sudden saffron
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yeah crit is where you get your AOE

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lucky burst

ashen jolt
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Oh?

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that 777 can aoe? the fk

sudden saffron
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it's a really small AOe tho like 2m with a perk to upgrade it to like 4.5m

ashen jolt
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better then nothing ❤️ omg.. i never knew 777 has aoe

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damn

sudden saffron
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which if it needs the perk kinda makes you wonder why it isn't just base 4.5m to begin with but

ashen jolt
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xDDDDD

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facts lol

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Gloria's turrets will now always target the boss Wuxiang after it burrows underground. yayyyy

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nice fix. I needed that

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i knew thats the bug. When he goes under...damn he goes under..

sudden saffron
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yeah but at least you can pay him back by sticking teddies to the invisible walls

ashen jolt
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@void tinsel uhh...if rate of fire cap is 400%...that means Reload speed has 400% cap too?

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crit rate too ?

void tinsel
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idfk

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crit rate is redundant anyways

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100% is 100%

ashen jolt
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oh...lovely. Thanks

marsh garden
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you only need to get cubie weapon on your first gurantee gamer perk drop, for the cheese strat to work. Pick security with cold E at the start

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sorry late reply

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drop all turrets and your C, then just aim and shoot with cubie weapon

void tinsel
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LMAO

marsh garden
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most likely it will be cubie weapon haha

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if u run the gamer blessing on module

void tinsel
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nono

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cause you need to beat the first wave

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you gotta purify a virus before getting the first perk aside from frost

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also I don't have a perk with cubie blessing Sad_Chick

dry locust
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What item should i get synergies for? Would it just be axe/battery or something else

void tinsel
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backpacks

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drones

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and darts

obtuse cloud
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so someone explain why you need fire rate on Gloria

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does that scale with your turrets?

obtuse cloud
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with the build people recommend

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0 mob damage, but good boss damage
good mob damage, but 0 boss damage

music/security one or the other. the devs need to buff Gloria.

sudden saffron
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it's not that literally just give AOE to weapon builds or make alot more arbiters not reliant on like one or two specific rolls to actually feel decent to play (desire with reap for example)

obtuse cloud
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yeah super annoying how the stars have to align to do damage with Gloria

sick orchid
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Which potential y'all use on Gloria

fleet fable
fleet fable
fleet fable
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All of those feel good to me and are similar in strength with security E builds

golden cypress
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Thing is other characters weapon builds feel okay atleast for mobbing because high fire rate

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But with how slow the firerate is for her it feels awful unless you have the e upgrades

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Having to rely on multiple arbiter feels so bad, especially because you aren't guaranteed the right perk

sudden saffron
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honestly just add a way to trade/drop perks and the game is perfect imo it's fine you can't do it all since this is meant to be a team game so you're bound to have bbuilds that extremely excel in one aspect or the other like i did with my buddy i was room clear and he focused on bossing

fleet fable
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eh, call me crazy, but I think that the variance and sometimes not being able to get the build you want kinda makes the game worth playing. Like, the frustration of having to kill the boss with only like half your build because you got unlucky, and the excitement of getting insane luck and having an absolute OP one shot build go hand in hand.

sudden saffron
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that would be fine if they added more arbiters and leaned into duo perks more or added perks that worked with niche mechanics like the security freeze break AOE

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and ACTUALLY make weapon damage scaling perk damage

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they don't even have to make new perks just make the shoot perks scale off weapon damage

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like gloria weapon cubie would be cool as hell

obtuse cloud
obtuse cloud
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when other characters can

fleet fable
obtuse cloud
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not really

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no dmg to bosses

fleet fable
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idk, seems like a skill issue to me, I don't have issues with clear or bossing

obtuse cloud
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im on ca 45 lol

fleet fable
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I ran 45 solo in like 20 minutes on my first try, still sounds like a skill issue

golden cypress
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this guys just spamming skill issue while having bad takes that sound about right

fleet fable
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Brian has been crying about Gloria in every chat lol. I'm just roasting him for being bad, Gloria cooks

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If he really wants to play gloria like every other character, why not just do the same music build everyone else is doing

golden cypress
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because it does no damage to bosses

fleet fable
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aurora, blade, colonel, and max top builds are all music evasion

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just do the same build

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none of them have anything that enables that build

obtuse cloud
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ur a moron

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all good

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@fleet fable

obtuse cloud
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learn to read

fleet fable
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hey homeslice

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you see evasion?

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you see how that's different from primary skill?

obtuse cloud
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just use the same build bro! xD!

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learn to read

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man

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i am going the music build

fleet fable
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how one is impact and one is repulsion?

obtuse cloud
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it sucks against bosses

fleet fable
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lol, you can't read

obtuse cloud
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stop ragebaiting

fleet fable
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look at the skill being used

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evasion

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not primary

obtuse cloud
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why would you

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max out evasion

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instead of the primary skill

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?

fleet fable
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which is a repulsion, and benefits from repulsion multipliers

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because repulsion has better multipliers

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than charm / impact

obtuse cloud
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so how does this benefit gloria

fleet fable
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because it does stupid damage...

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including destroying bosses

obtuse cloud
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it has nothing to do with the turrets

golden cypress
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evasion build is so boring

fleet fable
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correct

obtuse cloud
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ok man

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i mean

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u can play any character

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and do this

fleet fable
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exactly

obtuse cloud
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im trying to figure out how to maximize turret dps on gloria.

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and everyone has a different opinion on it

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so its kinda xd

fleet fable
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I mean

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if you look at the leaderboard, it's all security E

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and if possible archer cubies

obtuse cloud
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alright

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so

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security e.

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you arent clearing mobs with that.

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at a high level

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thats my point

fleet fable
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and that, I think is a skill issue

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you can't afk clear the whole map with it

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you have to actually engage in the fight

obtuse cloud
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its really not a skill issue. its not like im dying. lmfao

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i just dont want to spend an hour+ in a ca

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you keep saying skill isue like im constantly dying to mobs or something'

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its the fact that the build does 0 mob damage, let me guess its a skill issue again

fleet fable
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I think the skill issue is you taking an hour+

obtuse cloud
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wouldnt take me an hour if the build did mob damage

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:/

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let me try that max evasion you sent

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defientely wont be boring as hell

fleet fable
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Get this perk, it's the main perk @obtuse cloud

obtuse cloud
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aite

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another gloria i ran with

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sems like this is a move too

lusty wigeon
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4 (5) battery with bullet build

obtuse cloud
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think we good now

lusty wigeon
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no skill crit rate

obtuse cloud
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i mean is it really needed

fleet fable
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having like 60%+ skill crit rate makes a pretty big difference, since it's another multiplier

glad kite
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hey, when i play corrective mod with gloria and hit the weak part for bosses , her weapon and torret be so faaast , how?

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but if i play standard mode there is nothing happend if i hit the weak point

glad kite
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@obtuse cloud

glad kite
obtuse cloud
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@glad kite not sure bro

glad kite
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ok another question , what is best state for gloria , should i Focus just primary + skill crit rait and crit dmg @obtuse cloud

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or what?

fleet fable
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basically, yes

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bit also skill damage

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like both primary skill damage and skill damage

sonic oracle
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does the turret CD not affected by Skill CD but Skill charge?

lilac mural
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CA 41-50 is the hardest content in the game, so it makes sense if you have a bad/only decent build
You wont clear

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May not be a skill issue, but definitely a stat issue

lilac mural
void tinsel
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no skill crit rate either, right?

lilac mural
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Yeah, but it looks like he has inten 2 modules lol

void tinsel
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Why is he trying to clear 50

lilac mural
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Either that or his cores are not leveled at all

void tinsel
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yikes

lilac mural
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The skill crit rate

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You can play as godly as you want but with stats like those

void tinsel
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ngl my stats on my gloria are a lot better and I feel like I got no shot I could solo 50

lilac mural
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Building stats correctly is id say more than 50% of the game

lilac mural
void tinsel
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well, maybe if I play like an absolute god for a solid hour straight

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and get insane rng

sonic oracle
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but for music perk primary skill damage can increase the music perk damage?

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it should be no?

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only skill damge can deal high demage of music perk

obtuse cloud
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i mean the mechanics are easy

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the dps check is whats the hard partr in this game

lilac mural
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Doing enough damage is a mechanic in games like this

fleet fable
lilac mural
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Also
Is that a 1 hour CA 43 run

void tinsel
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damn not even I took that long solo...

nocturne ocean
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what are the stat priority for gloria turret 2nd weapon build @lilac mural ? fire rate first?

void tinsel
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you want skill damage, skill crit rate and damage and fire rate

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all of the above matter

nocturne ocean
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jay said 240% fire rate T.T

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how to get to that with all the other?

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and is skill damage better than primary damage?

void tinsel
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rerolling

void tinsel
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like 3k%

nocturne ocean
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that mean every mod have to have fire rate and skill something?

void tinsel
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yeah

glossy mortar
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hi gloria which perk and which build items?

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and which weapon good?

shell gulch
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guys is that build good for gloria?

brisk patrol
# shell gulch guys is that build good for gloria?

need more skill power basics (1300+) // skill cd is ok for mob maps , (charge rate idk what is this)
focus fire rate 70%+ (your dmg depend this with summons, more hits)

skill dmg
primary skill dmg
secundary skill dmg
magazine capacity

remove
waepon crit dmg > skill crit dmg
dmg reduction
waepon dmg
reload speed

frozen current
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Is this good enough? >_>

brisk patrol
brisk patrol
frozen current
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Like this?

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Saw I was missing an epic blue mod

shell gulch
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how do u manage to get above 1100 skill power with only 9 fission slots available?

void tinsel
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with an immortal and epic fission

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you get up there

frozen current
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Blue mod legendary t3 (500) + Blue mod epic t3 (368) + 5 skill core lvl 20 (500) = 1368

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1668 should be the max available if i'm not mistaken

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haven't seen a tier 4 epic mod

glossy mortar
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Which perks ans items good?

void tinsel
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Frozen E

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Cubie shoot

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Have fun

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Gg

glossy mortar
void tinsel
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Gives over 3k primary damage %

glossy mortar
void tinsel
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Build 2 darts, 2 drones and 4 backpacks OR 2 darts/2 drones and 6 backpack for fire rate

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go for +2 turret potential or the the one that gives like 5% damage for every 20 shield or whatever
then nuke boss

glossy mortar
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then aions perk best security

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shot is low dmg

void tinsel
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What

glossy mortar
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and which weapon good?

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first or second

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first perk i choose security or

void tinsel
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Always use second

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First perk in CA is security for primary ability

glossy mortar
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ok ty

void tinsel
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Then look for cubie shoot

glossy mortar
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secutirty i cannot use e bots lol

void tinsel
glossy mortar
# void tinsel What

i take arbiter of security and my skill e is locked with robots cannot spawn

void tinsel
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Either kill 50 enemies

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Or go lobby and reset

glossy mortar
obtuse cloud
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if 200% skill damage isn’t enough to clear ca 45 im out lol

lilac mural
obtuse cloud
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brings back my other argument. you go music primary skill and you do 0 boss damage

lilac mural
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And thats fair if you dont want to build, play a game that doesnt require stat building

But adamantly telling peeps x build does no damage/impossible is just false. Youre heading into end game, stuff gets harder

obtuse cloud
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it isn’t hard. it’s the rng with stats that is the hard part

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which is why it’s stupid

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imo

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the mechanics are brain dead i legit never die

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but if I’m restricted to clearing DUE TO MY RNG WITH CORES I AM OUT

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im gonna send you my build and i guarantee you wont find a thing wrong with it

lilac mural
sudden saffron
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unless you want to play burn without reap of course :^)

lilac mural
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Like I dont expect to clear end game PoE content if I had crap gear
Lmao

sudden saffron
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most casual players arent' expected to go beyond maybe floor 40 tbh

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honestly without music dodge ALOT of people would probably still be in the 40s rn

lilac mural
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Theres a good amount of people who uses charm

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Which isnt as offensive as music evade

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Id still count that as
"Legit" clears

sudden saffron
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it literally had a way to kill bosses without leaving spawn...

lilac mural
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Thats fixed now

sudden saffron
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ik but i'm not counting that now cause people abused it to get to "endgame" faster than they probably should've

obtuse cloud
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just so dumb

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with this rng

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anyways

lilac mural
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As far as I know
The bosses only spawn when you tp in

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But ive never tried charm myself for pushing

sudden saffron
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thats the whole reason they fixed it remember

lilac mural
sudden saffron
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like i'm not trying to say people who abused dodge or even he charm boss kill cheese pre fix are bad but they gotta realize they're basically cutting the amount of "content" the devs intended by alot by esentially fast tracking themselves

obtuse cloud
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even with this setpu cant clear 45 no dps

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thats why i said f this game

lilac mural
# obtuse cloud

Seen ca 41s with better stats
You definitely brute forced a bit

red walrus
void tinsel
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You need fire rate on gloria

fleet fable
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I find that archer cubies and 2 drones or darts are like, the necessities. Everything else is icing. Also, a module that gives % ammo on primary hit can keep you from ever having to reload

unreal bear
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I copied everything in this thread and yeeted in chatgpt.
Conclusion is this:

Gloria Turret DPS Cheat Sheet

(CA 41–50 viable, boss-focused build)

Perks & Loadout

Primary Perk:

Security E (Security Arbiter) — +3000%+ Primary Damage.

Secondary Perk:

Archer Cubies — boosts sustained DPS.

Weapon:

Always Second Weapon for turret scaling.

Item Slots:

2 Darts + 2 Drones + 4–6 Backpacks (fire rate boost).

Optional: swap drones/darts based on map needs.

Module Priority:

% Ammo on Primary Hit (avoids reload downtime).

+2 Turret Potential OR % Damage per Shield.

Stat Priorities

Main Target Order (multiplicative stacking):

Fire Rate → 70% minimum, aim for 200–240%.

Skill Crit Rate → 60%+ so crit damage is effective.

Skill Crit Damage — big multiplier with above.

Skill Damage and Primary Skill Damage (both matter).

Skill Power → 1300+ target (max ~1668).

Magazine Capacity (if not running infinite ammo mod).

Avoid / Replace

Weapon Crit Damage → replace with Skill Crit Damage.

Weapon Damage — doesn’t scale turrets well.

Reload Speed — low impact if ammo regen is handled.

Damage Reduction — only if you can afford losing DPS.

Playstyle

Engage actively — turrets won’t full-clear mobs AFK.

Security E build melts bosses, but mob clear is slower — be ready to play aggressively between turret cycles.

Swap to mob-friendly perks for CA farming floors if needed.

Example High-DPS Stat Snapshot
Stat Target Value
Fire Rate 200–240%
Skill Crit Rate 60–70%+
Skill Crit Damage High (200%+)
Skill Power 1300+
Skill Damage Stacked high
Primary Skill Damage Stacked high

💡 Quick DPS Check:
If your Fire Rate < 200% or Skill Crit Rate < 60%, your build is leaving a lot of turret damage on the table.

glossy mortar
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this max lvl or?

void tinsel
glossy mortar
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which good?

void tinsel
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you want the Primary security perk

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for your turrets

void tinsel
glossy mortar
void tinsel
glossy mortar
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this better?

void tinsel
glossy mortar
void tinsel
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That‘s a passive

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You need primary skill

glossy mortar
void tinsel
glossy mortar
void tinsel
glossy mortar
void tinsel
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I wonder if the primary damage is dependant on your current primary damage

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in which case this would be busted with frozen E

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probably not how I am envisioning it because if it were, then it'd end up 1 tapping bosses

sudden saffron
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I mean is gun 2 not based on current primary damage?

void tinsel
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yeah 100%

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I'm not sure how it scales though

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the potential I mean

sudden saffron
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I see literally no reason it wouldn't considering it's pure RNG to roll to begin with and almost 400% primary damage on a way more spammable guaranteed ability (gun 2 with cubies) is way better

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30% chance ain't that big even if gun 2 proceed the chance

void tinsel
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My concern was more 833% if it was current primary damage

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I am guessing it is additive

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which would mean over 4k% primary AA_Satania_Laugh

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then again if it is multiplicative (which I refuse to believe because someone would've found that already) then it'd be absurd

sudden saffron
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You'd think that but I have yet to ever roll that profiency

fleet fable
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I want a DPS meter for things like this

glossy mortar
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this ok?

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better or?

fleet fable
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Is that orange module there for traits?

void tinsel
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Triple yellow and triple purple…

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Pain

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Double blue…

stiff parcel
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Hi! I have a question: what should I prioritize more when choosing stats: skill damage or primary skill damage?

void tinsel
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Skill damage

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Well depends on build

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But most of the time skill damage

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Skill crit is gonna be 90% more important though

stiff parcel
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to get the bonus from the arbiters no?

void tinsel
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Depends on what you‘re playing

stiff parcel
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turrets

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for now i playing with music and storm E, depends what come first

void tinsel
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If you‘re playing frost then skill damage is effectively one of the least important stats you gotta think of

void tinsel
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

glossy mortar
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which core good fopr gloria?

lusty wigeon
haughty flower
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Are there any pins or guides on how to build for Gloria? I love her kit but I'm coming from playing Aurora and my turrets aren't doing much.

frozen current
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So... For game shoot and security E skill DMG doesn't work?

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Or rather, less effective?

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Something like fire rate > crit > skill DMG?

void tinsel
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yes

void tinsel
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just use that

haughty flower
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Look at that great post from Ephixum, what is Secruity E?

lusty wigeon
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Secruity primary give ~1750% primary damage at first level

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but 1s every 3s

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so by avg at level 1 = you get 4 x 6set axe

haughty flower
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Is it a Relic I assume? Not sure if Ive ever seen that one, thats awesome.

lusty wigeon
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e mean button you click
by default it primary perk

haughty flower
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Haven't met any AI that are about Security yet, huh

sudden saffron
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you can infinitely reroll the starting perks til you get security primary btw

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there's a few presets for each arbiter

haughty flower
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Oh I didn't know that. Also, I had assumed everyone was going Music

vast fulcrum
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Is gloria good for solo ?

lusty wigeon
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depend

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which stage

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and build

vast fulcrum
lusty wigeon
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also use her 2nd weapon

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for primary skill,
try to get one of those

  • security
  • music
  • thunder
  • desire
sonic oracle
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How can I calculate precisely about the damage from skills/ perks and weapons.
The damage formula is so unclear and testing stage

vernal scaffold
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no one knows the exact method to calculate dmg and doubtful anyone will figure it out, there are so many variables and some perks dont really do what it says it does

lilac mural
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Although, not sure how skill power/Power/Weapon power apply to base stats from the start of the run as i've not looked at it at all

it should be

(Starting Base Damage) x skill damage% (From perks, combat Terminull, Items) x Skil crit damage% (From perks, combat terminull, Items) x Conditional Multiplier x Conditional Multiplier x Conditional Multiplier x etc etc

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Replace skill damage with weapon damage if you're trynna figure out weapon damage

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If a perk or item has an attribute that's in the combat terminull, it's additive to it

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Skill damage, Ult damage, And primary damage should share the same damage bracket/multiplier bracket

vernal scaffold
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so how do you calculate 9bil dmg

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honestly just seems speculative, none of that is concrete

lilac mural
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echo shock is an exception because god knows how that works and is not working as intended, otherwise what i said is pretty close to what the dmg formula is

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can't just say "it's speculative"
if the only example you can give is obviously a echo shock perk abuse, which is an outlier to all perks currently lmao
glad to hear ANY other example though

vernal scaffold
#

idk why im here man, im playing bf6

#

🤷‍♂️

glossy mortar
#

which modul power perk is good?

ebon ferry
#

Which aion perk do people favour at the start? I've bene swapping between fortune & games, but not completely sold on either or atm

sudden saffron
#

kinda depends on weapon or skill and which character

#

security primary cubie shoot is the current meta for gloria skill

ebon ferry
#

how come cubie shoot is meta?

sudden saffron
#

security shoot reload is the current meta for weapon gloria (or at least the one that feels the best for me)

#

her gun 2 ADS

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cubies add to it and also shoot lazers

ebon ferry
#

oh, the cubie spawns the zap?

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oh neat

ebon ferry
#

Also before tier 4 modules, do I just get security first on one of them & then just as much skill power as I can get shove into the module without that much concern for substats, or will I pay attention to them in 2/3?

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I'm just doing skill power & 1 substat for the most part, but also just whatever fits with the most skill power lmao

sudden saffron
#

that's fine for now but you ideally want as many substats as possible if you have for example a yellow with skill crit damage and rate fire rate primary skill damage that would be more worth it over say a purple with only skill crit damage

#

cores also will give you alot of base power/skillpower

glossy mortar
#

this good?

ebon ferry
#

so i'm just throwing stuff into the module & saying good enough BearGiggle

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since I don't want to use my crafting materials to re-shape as I wanna wait until higher tier modules

haughty flower
#

Sorry for the stupid question but do you all usually upgrade your turrets or leave them at their base

lilac mural
#

They fire a bit faster so its worth for charm and lightning

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For frost
They dont deal much damage so
I leave it as level 1

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Or upgrade it when timer is below half

haughty flower
#

Im not really sure what build. I was recommended the Ice to start with

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But I'm noticing it becoming a bit harder to play at Diff 19.

lilac mural
#

It sucks at mobbing

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You also need cubies

#

From left click gamer

glossy mortar
#

what is better

haughty flower
#

When looking at Modules for Gloria what set should I focus on?

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I was just going with, I think its called Fission for Skill Power.

glad shell
glad shell
obtuse cloud
#

guck guck

haughty flower
#

What orange perk (boss one) is perferred for Gloria?

haughty flower
#

Would the right one be the choice between the two?

harsh skiff
lusty wigeon
#

bread machine can be very good if your mate is another gloria with similar damage

ebon ferry
#

80% fire rate makes me sad

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Every time i get it, I never have enough relics to stack rate of fire nyoo

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But it is a really strong pickup

sudden saffron
#

i mean at least it's a whole extra archer cubie clone

ebon ferry
#

yeah

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I was testing some stuff earlier & got a 6 backpack / 2 amulet setup

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was 290 fire rate without the 80% key perk nyoo

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I do wonder if just doing 2/2/2/2 of afew sets is better than 6/2

lusty wigeon
#

I normally do 2 or 4 and rarely go for 6

ebon ferry
#

yeah I was mostly just testing stuff to see what worked since I swapped off of thinking skill damage to rate of fire

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and I just happened to get 6/2 that run

sonic oracle
#

I do think the skill charge is really important to gloria
Always insufficient charge

void tinsel
#

Yeah fr

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I am desperate for a good mod for her

elfin basalt
#

I just want better modules in general

glossy mortar
#

Which module perk are a good?

lusty wigeon
glossy mortar
lusty wigeon
# glossy mortar arbiter games
  • ultimate game (immortal) / game (legendary) (must have)
  • primary hit regenerate ammo 17% (legendary) (must have)
  • fire rate / 150% skill damage / 10% skill damage (immortal) (15 stacks)
  • cube count 2 (immortal) (nice to have)
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get thing like this

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but for starter
get game (legendary) and primary restore ammo (legendary)

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for stat priority
fire rate > crit rate/ crit dmg > skill damage > primary > weakpoint
1 line of skill charge also appreciate (this reduce turret cd)

glossy mortar
#

ca 20 its hard for me :/

lusty wigeon
#

did you start with security primary ?

glossy mortar
#

yes or games

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i made at moment all chars to 10

lusty wigeon
#

then try to max out your core upgrade first this might help

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you get 10-30% more power from that

glossy mortar
#

and made all chars 10 is good? for more power

lusty wigeon
#

sure it's good

glossy mortar
glossy mortar
#

i get 80min 10k exp 😄 3 hours 1 chare lvl 10 its ok

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long way XD

ebon ferry
#

is it just more comfortable to always start with blue security if you click the perk from aion I guess?

lusty wigeon
#

it also more comfortable to start with high damage turret than game without turret

glossy mortar
#

when i not geht primary skill then start new or?

lusty wigeon
#

you start with primary [security] then find first perk shoot [game]

ebon ferry
lusty wigeon
ebon ferry
#

I still need to get a games module nyoo

#

im still using the tier 1 security I found & it makes me sad because it's orange

lusty wigeon
#

legendary [game] is good enough

ebon ferry
#

yeah since im playing the game w/ a friend, I don't wanna do any grinding when he's not online so I'm just bcaPatientlyWaiting waiting for him to login

lusty wigeon
#

I see

sonic oracle
lusty wigeon
#

it almost 30 runs from my last drop

haughty flower
#

Would anyone know the earliest one could start aiming for immortals?

#

Really not sure if I should try to refresh or choose one of these. Someone earlier said to always prioritize Fire Rate and then Crit but man almost all the ones I come across are bad.

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I went with Defense is Best Offense, Im going Secuirty this run so Ill see how it goes. Hopefully I chose right lol

ebon ferry
#

the middle one is the best choice there I think

#

if you're doing weapon 2 anyway

void tinsel
#

SJay said he likes the one with "Get 5% damage per 20 shield" or whatever

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I usually take one of the two

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cause more turrets = more beam

ebon ferry
#

yeah I like more turrets = more beam also

haughty flower
#

Because I'm nowhere near the ability to get Immortal Modules yet, what Legendary Module Unique Abilities should I keep on the look out for?

fleet fable
lusty wigeon
#

just not as good as 80% rate of fire

gleaming terrace
#

What weapon is best for Gloria?

sick sierra
#

90% sure its the 2nd weapon

void tinsel
#

Make it 99%

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1st weapon could only work with a weapon build

edgy lion
#

I've been trying the Skill Crit damage multiplier build and holy do the Teddy bears slap now

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I only got 147 Skill Crit dam Multiplier so far

glossy mortar
#

I think hik skill dmf is good

#

Was is important on Moduls skill crit dmg and skill crit and skill power?

glossy mortar
#

no chance ca 20....

haughty flower
#

I apologize for constantly bugging everyone but i had another question. So from what i've been told in here I want Firerate first before Skill Power and then Power for stat priority. The problem though is that, so far, from what I've played I can only find Weapon Fire Rate sub-stats on modules dedicated to Weapon Damage and not Skill Power or Power.

What class of module should I be going after then?

#

I'm still far to low-level to get immortalmodules yet but this is what I'm working with atm

glad shell
haughty flower
#

I have been going after that exact double sets during my runs, easier said then done though eheh

edgy lion
#

I'm only up to CA 22 but I think mine is looking semi okay

#

I mainly do Music. need to play more with cubie

glad shell
#

just need better immortal blessings

glad shell
edgy lion
#

😄 I've been doing my best to try and solo all of CA

glossy mortar
#

can anyone help ca 21... i have no chance

haughty flower
glossy mortar
#

i get not from security freezing frame 🙁 its lucky or?

glad shell
#

i guess it depends on what build youre running

glad shell
edgy lion
glad shell
glossy mortar
#

Can you show Pic perk ca refresh with frozen frame

glad shell
glad shell
edgy lion
#

I feel 22+ is were I'll start to struggle doing them solo until I get better Modules

lusty wigeon
glad shell
silk mulch
void tinsel
fleet fable
#

without cubies I think double skill damage

silk mulch
void tinsel
#

works but

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actually not really

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just bad

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😭

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Gloria works off of the primary skill damage, not the skill damage

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so you are boosting a not so important stat

silk mulch
void tinsel
#

linearly

silk mulch
#

Ah

lusty wigeon
#

what about shield

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is it multiplicative ?

silk mulch
lusty wigeon
#

does cubie increase shield

void tinsel
#

yes. The 5% boost per 20 shield is multiplicative to the final damage number

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which is why it works

void tinsel
#

that's where the damage comes from

silk mulch
#

Fair point

void tinsel
#

and remember

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security E gives at max rank like 3.6k primary skill damage %

fleet fable
#

it's one of the multipliers

void tinsel
silk mulch
void tinsel
#

you prio fire rate and skill scrit

silk mulch
void tinsel
silk mulch
fleet fable
#

If you don't have cubies to get a multiplier on your alt fire, idk about that. Pretty much everything you named there is about scaling something that's missing an entire multiplier, so it's an order of magnitude weaker than what people like you or I are running

void tinsel
#

skill damage is mildly important. You can have around 100-150 and be fine

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but for security E specifically

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it barely changes the damage output

#

skill crit makes the huge damage come out

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let's say you have security E that gives you 3.6k primary damage then add like 200% skill damage

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that's just 3.8k skill damage

lusty wigeon
#

it 3.6k / 3

void tinsel
#

it might add like... a million damage

lusty wigeon
#

so roughtly 1.2k

void tinsel
#

what

lusty wigeon
#

it only active 1s every 3s

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you can look at your buff icon

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more turret doesn't give morer active time

void tinsel
#

oh you mean the that

lusty wigeon
#

yeah by avg

void tinsel
#

that's not the idea

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the idea is the beams

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more turrets results in more beams

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turret beams scale with primary damage

lusty wigeon
#

but your primary buff only active 1 every 3 seconds

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so you shouldn't use 3.6k

void tinsel
#

have you tried it

lusty wigeon
#

I look at the buff icon

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also stat does change

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up and down

void tinsel
#

here we are

#

so

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another one

#

so as we can see

#

one of the strongest players in the game says

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that skill damage doesn't do much

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why?

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because Security E doesn't care that much for skill damage

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wether you have 200% or 300% won't affect you too much

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what WILL affect you, is not having skill crit

lusty wigeon
#

I just state that you shouldn't use 3.6k but 3.6k/3

void tinsel
#

because that is where your damage is from

lusty wigeon
#

1.2k primary still a lot

void tinsel
silk mulch
void tinsel
#

and in that time

#

you are able to one tap bosses

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it doesn't matter if it is a "short burst" or whatever

lusty wigeon
#

not at ca50

void tinsel
#

the WHOLE idea of the build is that you can annihilate the boss hp rapidly

void tinsel
#

CA50 is meant to be a slog

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it is not intended for it to be cleared withing 5 seconds

fleet fable
#

@void tinsel my stats were the same before and after grabbing double skill damage here. It's not additive, it's multiplicative, which is why I would put money on it out performing additive sources that impact your alt fire only

void tinsel
edgy lion
void tinsel
#

I'm tired explaining this at 1 am

#

@lilac mural

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it's your build

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please take over

#

cheers

silk mulch
haughty flower
#

I'm just catching up on the discussion; but for a Security E Build I want to focus on Fire Rate>Skill Crit/Dmg>Power>Skill Power if I'munderstanding it?

haughty flower
edgy lion
#

Okay.. Cleared CA 22 with Cubie and got Desire's E.. you do so much Damage. helps I got the All Hands on Deck upgrade

frozen current
#

Good enough?

#

Or should I just risk it and change skill cd

edgy lion
#

Idealy Primary skill would be SD and SC would be SKill crit dam but it looks okay

#

that's what I gather from looking at Valkin

frozen current
#

i guess it's the best for now lol

edgy lion
#

yeah

glad shell
#

1 immortal only :/

glad shell
frozen current
#

Sadly it's a really low crit build xD

glad shell
frozen current
glad shell
# frozen current

its getting there you should be doing well if you got beamer build

glossy mortar
#

this good?

void tinsel
#

meh

glossy mortar
#

i am ca 21 :/

void tinsel
#

stats on it except for skill damage are mid and the trait is like... fine

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not something I'd use though

glossy mortar
#

what is better

void tinsel
glossy mortar
void tinsel
#

working

glossy mortar
void tinsel
#

all skill power, then power, then shields

glossy mortar
void tinsel
fleet fable
glossy mortar
#

Ca i use security work good and story games better?

fleet fable
heavy crane
#

if i am farming standard should i start archer cubie or ice? I have ultimate games

lusty wigeon
#

start with archer cubie and go for first perk music/thunder primary

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I still suggest you use other build cause this is really bad at clearing mob

heavy crane
#

music build?

lusty wigeon
#

nah, just use a turret for mobbing cause security turret bad at mob

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you need still need bossing from game

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if you wanna play evasion music you better do it with aurora or blade

fleet fable
silk mulch
lusty wigeon
silk mulch
mental isle
#

@glossy mortar please use #🔎┆looking-for-group , thank you!

vast fulcrum
#

so for the tetris with gloria, is reaching 80% fire rate more important that total skillpower/power?

Like is there a big difference in builds if doing CA vs Standard?

lilac mural
vast fulcrum
void tinsel
#

I have a games blessing so I start security E and go into Games shoot

void tinsel
#

I like my turrets one shotting anything early CB_bleb

lilac mural
#

Then you branch into any arbiter of your choosing
Thats not fortune or wealth

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Security and desire are the best ones from my experience

void tinsel
#

Lightning is also good for room clear and with certain perks it can go wild

lilac mural
#

Desire has a flat 150% damage boost thats full uptime

Security has 3k% that has 1/3rd uptime and needs to match with your cubies

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So damage can be a bit inconsistent

heavy crane
#

are those any good

lilac mural
#

No

glossy mortar
#

this good?

hardy mulch
#

Trying gloria for first time, is this a decent build? think i saw smth like this on leaderboard and tried to copy it

#

also these are my stats, idk what i m doing exactly

#

@lusty wigeon gib tips pls, think we played yestrday in cod btw... I was aurora tho

lusty wigeon
hardy mulch
glossy mortar
#

is this ok?

lusty wigeon
#

idk what build you try to play

glossy mortar
#

but i have over 10 keys

lusty wigeon
#

no game start perk and restore ammo perk
rate of fire is too low
power and skill power is too low as well
I can't see skill crit rate and crit dmg
but skill crit rate should be around 70-80%
and crit dmg 200+

#

that what you need to fix

glossy mortar
lusty wigeon
#

down side is too bad

glossy mortar
#

hmm ok

glossy mortar
lusty wigeon
#

other state as well

#

so check before you start rolling

opal oar
#

how should i build gloria as modules?

glossy mortar
#

Yeah wenn need modules with stats easier for us 🤣

glossy mortar
#

whioc is good

void tinsel
#

Both

glossy mortar
#

or this with skill crit and skill dmg

glossy mortar
#

this ok witth games?

vast fulcrum
glossy mortar
vast fulcrum
#

idk, i'm new, but what skills scale of weapon attack power?

void tinsel
#

The answer is you shouldn’t

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Unless you really need a trait

vast fulcrum
glossy mortar
#

Skill power shield health better

void tinsel
#

skill power, power, shield

glossy mortar
lusty wigeon
#

why range is so low for intensity 3

glossy mortar
#

i get not good modules :/

lusty wigeon
#

mine is 25-38%

#

shouldn't range be the same for same intensity

glossy mortar
#

im unlucky

glossy mortar
#

this ok?

lusty wigeon
#

it good for other build that not gloria

glossy mortar
#

Not luck 😦

solar tartan
#

what's better for her? Skill crit or skill damage?

#

or primary skill damage?

lusty wigeon
ashen jolt
#

is this crap for Gloria?

#

and @solar tartan i just use all stats to be sure

#

ignore the idiotic Minor skill damage ( i will replace that eventualy with skill crit multiplier)

#

but need yellow cores

#

but in rest yeah....i go for all those stats: Skill damage/ Skill crit damage/ Primary and Skill crit rate

#

is kinda mental build..and expensive....can cost you mental sanity with the fkin re-rolls

#

so dunno...focus on skill damage/skill crit damage

shell gulch
#

best potential for gloria??

#

is that good guys?

lusty wigeon
# shell gulch best potential for gloria??

Stat
rate of fire > skill crit rate/ skill crit dmg >>> skill dmg > primary dmg > weakpoint dmg

Traits
First perk game (Legendary/Immortal)
archer clone limit cubie +2 (Immortal)
rate of fire 100% (immortal)
skill dmg 150% (immortal) / 10% skill dmg per 10 kills 15 stacks (immortal) / primary hit restore ammo 17% (legendary, this for no reload build so you don't need to invest in magazine size and reload).

lusty wigeon
# shell gulch is that good guys?

rate of fire can be a bit better.
Don't use epic starfort but use epic skyedge instead because only skyedge and sentinel can roll for rate of fire

#

Skill crit rate (70-80 or more) / Skill crit dmg (200+) are a bit too low

shell gulch
#

that better?

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i didnt have good skyedge modules soo i use starfort again

#

and i have perk that increase skill crit rate by 80%

shell gulch
#

@lusty wigeon

lusty wigeon
#

it's better but you can always make your gear better with reroll, higher stat and better trait

#

but you on the right track

shell gulch
#

i dont have the coins thats why

#

soo u mean i need to get better skill crit rate and skill crit dmg than skill dmg?

#

@lusty wigeon

lusty wigeon
#

it about amount of time or coin you want to invest on her.
I have 300 crit dmg (can be 390 if I finish the gear)
80% crit rate
107% rate of fire
180 skill damage
130 primary damage.
This can be done by remove unncessary stat like your weapon damage, reload that you have over 160%

sweet umbra
#

hey guys, whats the best combination for gloria that does not require a duo perk?

lusty wigeon
#

primary security + shoot game

sweet umbra
#

so weapon damage?

lusty wigeon
#

skill/primary damage from her coordinate attack

#

2nd weapon

sweet umbra
#

got it

#

is desire good for her?

lusty wigeon
#

usable

#

desire primary + game shoot

sweet umbra
#

what is game shoot? sorry

lusty wigeon
sweet umbra
#

ahhh okay got it

#

thanks

undone python
#

Does anyone have any gameplay tips/rules for Gloria? I'm runinng games and sec, but I just feel like her damage is so much lower than other characters. I don't have her leveled up that high, I'm jsut going off of initial impressions here. I feel like her clear speed for standard mode is really slow. I know people really like her so I'm sure I'm missing something.

lusty wigeon
#

shoot game + primary security

sweet umbra
#

i really like the duo mechanic but it seems so hard/rare to get them ingame.. anyone have any tips?

fleet fable
#

get an arbiter of games module

#

it's super worth it, and you'll usually get the combo

lusty wigeon
#

Legendary module has similar things to this

sweet umbra
#

is it hard to get immortals?

fleet fable
#

because the drop rate is low

odd cradle
#

Games perk is for which part? Shooting, reload, minor, or primary?
I mostly use music on primsry, fortune for minor
Thunder for reload
And random for shooting perk

elfin basalt
#

I usually use game for shoot, desire for primary, but depending what you plan to do really, I also found security primary for single target pretty neat, and am looking into how good Fortune primary could be (and game - minor skill)

odd cradle
#

Mostly for defeating bosses quick, as for crowd mob i thing thunder is the best

elfin basalt
#

Eh, is it standard 10?

odd cradle
#

Havent unlock it

#

Right now on ca 17

#

So standard 8

#

Also for proficiency 7, is the turret constantly attacking weak part? If so do they give sign of the weak part so that when i shoot it i get bonus damage

elfin basalt
#

I’d probably say think about Security primary perhaps, and they kinda shoot where you aimed it.

odd cradle
#

I mean when they shoot without me aiming it, the turret just shoot randomly at every bodypart?

elfin basalt
#

Hmm, not sure, think standard is body shots?

odd cradle
#

I see

#

Thank you for the answer

fleet fable
#

The turrets will target anything you tag with your weapon while OTS; you want Archer Cubies (shooting) and the second weapon for big single target damage. Desire primary gives you clear while still giving you a multiplier on your turrets (which impacts OTS damage), security primary gives best single target damage but requires you to focus up when killing mobs. Anything else is going to be significantly weaker with significant investment in the character, but until your stats get good, you're probably okay running sub optimal builds.

gray falcon
#

is it better to start with the 3 games perks and then get the security perk, or start with 3 security perks then get th egame perk

lusty wigeon
#

first perk game guarantee immortal also have capybara that consider as cubie

#

minor skill from security also not bad

ashen jolt
#

almost done with my pure sniper teddy bear gloria....time to relax and try make a easyMode Music only build

#

i think Gloria is the best for Music build since she has 2 dodges dunno

#

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

ember arch
#

what a best build for gloria farm standart mode ?

lusty wigeon
#

music evasion like any other character

elfin basalt
#

For me, it's game + desire E

fleet fable
vast fulcrum
#

is primary skill damage more important that skill damage?

lusty wigeon
#

same thing cause it addictive but skill damage cover more area of damage

fleet fable
lusty wigeon
vast fulcrum
lusty wigeon
#

if possible try to maximize your rate of fire

glossy mortar
#

this good?

void tinsel
glossy mortar
#

this better?

void tinsel
#

What are we doing Pain

glossy mortar
lusty wigeon
#

Try to get close to this stat as much as possible or more

#

Ignore skill cooldown and charge rate

sweet umbra
#

30 COD and no immortals yet T_T

plush idol
#

hey can someone in here tell me if this should be rerolled

#

I havent played her much but hear she can be a hybrid curious if this is the start of that

unreal bear
#

What are the best module traits to run with the turrets?

lusty wigeon
#

her first gun build or 2nd ?

unreal bear
# lusty wigeon her first gun build or 2nd ?

2nd... currently on CA15 only and can't roll alot on the modules yet. Trying to snipe some important traits to get me going to 30-ish so i can farm better and start making big build

torn stag
plush idol
#

second gun. Thanks for the info Will do

lusty wigeon
#

you never use your ultimate so it good stat but useless trait
you need immortal with good trait first then do the stat

#

else you gonna do it twice

shell gulch
#

is that build good guys?

lusty wigeon
#

skill critcal damage kinda low. It gonna be a lot better if you increase it to at least 300+ (every module need to have this line)

shell gulch
#

i forgot what was it

#

speed of sound

lusty wigeon
#

those 2 are your highest priority

#

I'd say 200 skill damage + and 300 skill crit dmg +

#

other stat doesn't matter

short geyser
#

is it advisable to use the orange module solely for this trait? or keep using teal, purple, red

lusty wigeon
#

it use this one as well

vast fulcrum
#

@lusty wigeon is endless barage better or all hands on deck?

short geyser
lusty wigeon
glossy mortar
#

thjis ok :D?

lyric ridge
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which perk set do you recomend for her

lusty wigeon
glossy mortar
ashen jolt
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@lilac mural is this decent enough? yes i still need yellow cores to re-roll.... and a cubic Red mod >,>....

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next re-rolls should be primary..to get to 300% primary..then we fine i guess.

lilac mural
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Looks good

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What are your immortal traits ?

ashen jolt
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i miss the cubic..but hello.. no red drops in this game so

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hah...imagine red module drops...the fk...Yellow cores even rarer

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that Minor Focus...should be OP for blade thou

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right

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saving that for her...

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infinite dashesh

lusty wigeon
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should have full trait first before go hard for stat.
no abiter first perk also unplayable unless you want to play game without secruity/desire/etc

buoyant spruce
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does weapon buffs and stats affect her turrets?

i see people goin for rate of fire for the turrets, so im assuming all other stats apply, no?

ashen jolt
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My build so far

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i mean i aim for primary 300% just bcs i like x3 300%

lusty wigeon
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if I gonna flex stat.
I can drop this one as well
not interest in unused trait

buoyant spruce
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shit's god rolled

ashen jolt
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a primary based Blade could work with that

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so basicly every 5 primary u would have 1 and a half free primary

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@lusty wigeon Flexing? No idea what u're talking about. You're the one showing main STATS on modules not me. I was showing my base stats only, in order to help others with build.

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So if i'm to do your idiotic game... you're the one flexing by showing module stat, i did not shown my modules. That's funny.

lusty wigeon
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don't be shy tell people what you said in the run

ashen jolt
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don't be shy to stay on game related topic. keep your frustrations away from the chat pls. Thanks

mental isle
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ok... move on please HeartBeat

buoyant spruce
void tinsel
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But the turrets themselves don’t actually shoot faster with weapon rate of fire

buoyant spruce
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surely music arbiter is the best for gloria using skill build, right?

i never even came close to this number with cubies

void tinsel
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Security E and rest cubies

buoyant spruce
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so the music primary charm aint even close?! 😱😱 wtf. how?

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share a build

void tinsel
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All you really need is Security E and Archer cubie

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that's it

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rest is just extra

buoyant spruce
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so what starter arbiter should i choose? and with what 3 perks

void tinsel
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for relics, get 4 or 6 backpacks and 2 darts/2 drones

void tinsel
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I have a games blessing so in CA I start with Primary Security

buoyant spruce
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i got no blessing :p

void tinsel
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in Standard you have to start cubie shoot either way

void tinsel
buoyant spruce
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u talkin about THIS perk??

void tinsel
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yes

buoyant spruce
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seems ass. especially since it only procs every 3 secs... its that good tho?

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so start game and try to get that one for my E?

void tinsel
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it gives over 3k % Primary damage

void tinsel
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only CA though

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in Standard you can't get it at start

buoyant spruce
void tinsel
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aguhghghghgg

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The Cubie shoot perk

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Archer Cubie

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You will always try to fish for that perk

buoyant spruce
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it looks like a bullet, right?

void tinsel
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yes

buoyant spruce
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and is it called "pans blessing"?? im lookin at em rn in my mod menu

void tinsel
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yeah

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that or the Security blessing one

lilac mural
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old clip always works

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i'm probably 2-3x stronger now lol

void tinsel
# lilac mural

I still love how you just kept going even after he was down

ashen jolt
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i think GLoria is pretty decent at cod hard...no idea... need try other classes too... but no red mods with 3 stars..just basic.

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oh well q.q

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imagine getting a mod with cube as well. Working with what i have....

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But really...100 cods a day...doesn't bring me more then 4 reds... that's very fked up

ashen jolt
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My build so far. Good to 1 shot cod/ 1 min run in total

sinful meteor
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Simple statement made. I like crit damage

ashen jolt
low bone
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what stats should i focus on my modules to be able to burst down bosses quickly?

muted canopy
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What colors of modules are good for her

lusty wigeon
# muted canopy What colors of modules are good for her

She is mostly build as skill dmg user.
So she can be setup in 2 ways.

  • 5 block module of (blue/purple/red) + 4 block module of (blue/purple) + 1 block module of (red)
  • 5 block module of (blue/purple/red/yellow) + 4 block module of (blue)

the 2nd setup one give lower base power + skill power but if you have perfect good sub attribute module and good trait from 5 block module it can out perform first setup

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first setup is a lot cheaper because you will be using 2 of 4 block module which easier to find perfect 3 sub attribute without any invest.