#lore-discussion

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wide zodiac
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Yes

dark delta
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Gotcha

raven void
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Destiny: Rising > Destiny 2 story? Thoughts?

wide zodiac
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Depends on which part of Destiny 2's story you are comparing Rising's story to, tbh. Better then Lightfall's story? 1200%. Better then Witch Queen's story? Probably not.

bright pier
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So it’s very possible the entire destiny universe is set within the Vex simulators??

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Given how twisted and it was actually real with the 217 or something in the 4 lore vex docs. I think the theory is the vex are allowing it all so they can know how they think, etc.

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wide zodiac
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Issue wioth the theroy: The Vex canonicaly, at least untill a certain point, have serious trouble simulating the paracausal forces of light and dark

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It's not impossible for them to do, but it may as well be without specific focus

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So any universe with light and dark in it is probably not a Vex simulation.

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...Probably being the key word.

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Also, I dunno what the lore of the Nine is anymore come Edge of Fate and I don't Want to know because I like them being mysterious beings, but I feel like the Nine aren't easily simulatable either.

wraith carbon
strange frigate
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Thats kinda assuming we gonna reach the time of the vanguard. Hell we dont even know if osiris and saint 14 has met yet

tawdry tree
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So, does that mean he and maru will launch after gwynn's limited banner has ended?

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cunning bison
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i may have just missed it in-game but i was wondering how Radegast and Morgram became allies (or whatever you want to call their relationship)

lament chasm
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Well the lantern corrupted him or something lol

cunning bison
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You must have missed a cutscene or something because it was all explained. I gave a quick summary in my comment above this one if you'd like to get an idea of the missing pieces

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cunning bison
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Same, this is the first destiny game I have spent much time in so this is all fresh

left scarab
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is anything in this game canon to the lore? or is it just an AU kinda thing so they can do what they want story wise

dense cave
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when does OUR guardian show up

strange frigate
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Imagine stabbing crota with a pencil

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left scarab
strange frigate
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Hundreds i doubt that

left scarab
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Do you want me to write a massive paragraph explaining why?

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Because ik I'm correct

tawdry tree
strange frigate
left scarab
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@strange frigate @tawdry tree if we just ignore the entirety of the fact that, the last city, vanguard and essentially all of the infrastructure that exists in destiny 1/2 was practically impossible to just create in "decades", as space travel isnt even possible currently in destiny rising, and its casually available in d1 and d2.

you can just simply think about the timeline, for example the battle of twilight gap took place around 100 years prior to D1, this was a battle to defend the last city (something that does not even exist in rising) and there is ALOT of lore that is older than that within the game relating the the last city and the guardians that reside there, such as eris morns fireteam being defeated by crota and other landmark events in the lore

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i would correct my previous statement and say if the game was canonized in any way shape or form, it would have to be around 500 years MINIMUM to fit into the lore at all

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oh also a more concrete example i forgot about, at the time of destiny rising, saladin isnt even an iron lord yet, and they were considered "aincent history" in terms of the main destiny universe, as they existed hundereds of years prior

strange frigate
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Ah neat

left scarab
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i think in future seasons the game could lead into the formation of the iron lords or something like that, but right now the game is still behind in terms of timeline

strange frigate
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The ironlords already exist

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wide zodiac
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Yep

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That's what he was doing in Veridia to begin with, got given the terrotiry after a friend went crazy

tawdry tree
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If there's an iron wolf, there's an iron lord (unless that iron lord got snuffed out that is)

left scarab
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oh no its mentioned in a couple destiny item descriptions

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iron wolves are the second generation of iron wolves, there were 9 of them to be specific, 3 of each class

tawdry tree
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||Wolf/The Guardian, just got promoted to an iron wolf||

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For shame

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strange frigate
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You guys do know wolf doesnt equal the guardian like he is not rising version of the guardian

left scarab
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yeah, he is his own charatcer so i never really thought about him that way

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the guardian in the destiny games are literally just a husk lol they say like 2 words the entire franchise

tawdry tree
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With some manipulation of our ghost signal to revive us

left scarab
strange frigate
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Play edge of fate

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tawdry tree
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I wondered who our ghost would actually have revived if it weren't for the nines intervention

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tawdry tree
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Would we actually have the same potential as wolf if our actual guardian was revived?

left scarab
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depends on what you believe decides the potential strength of a guardian

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if its based on innate power within the ghost or lightbarer, or its from practice/experience

strange frigate
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Our actual guardian? If you mean the guardian than wolf doesnt stand a chance

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wide zodiac
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She says that Lightbearers don't so much get stronger as get better with the power they have

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wide zodiac
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A weak Guardian can get really strong with experience and practise, and a strong guardian can get bodied if they get rusty. For examples of each, look at Ikora and Vel Tarlowe.

Ikora got as busted as she did by study and practise. Tawlowe was a strong titan who got bodied by Thrall because of overconfidence.

strange frigate
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The top 5 strongest guardians in welp frankly the multiverse is very obvious non are from the dark timelines as those are well not doing good, rising hmm well they unfortunatley to new which is Sad

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wide zodiac
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Wolf is also a too confident fool who nearly permadied because he didn't think a Cabal could put on power armor.

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My point precisely.

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left scarab
strange frigate
wide zodiac
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I think his case is one of starting off strong and hoping that scaling carries into his life.

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wide zodiac
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Also, really, we can't use Savathun as a power scaler, the moment she got her memoires back we really should not have been able to beat her.

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wide zodiac
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At least if we are going by experioence being the only factor here

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wide zodiac
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Like we should just conisdering ourselves fortunate that the witch queen's firsrt thought on obtaining the light was to switch supers quickly, and not "rewrite the laws of the universe"

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strange frigate
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What if wolf absorbed the tree! In the future

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teal stream
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Rising is standalone from D1 and D2 in terms of lore, right?

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wide zodiac
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Smart enough to gain the Light
Dumb enough to not realize she can alter the fabric of the universe

yeah that sounds on brand for someone tricked by a gust of smoke

bright pier
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What's interesting, I didn't think the Cabal ever visited until D2 when they arrived. I didn't read any lore so they prob were around sooner. lol

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strange frigate
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Yes he does hell i go as far as to say in his sentinel form he most likely could be on the level of well 1 of the 6 guardians who fought crota hell maybe even 1 of the 6 oryx

wide zodiac
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bright pier
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I can't wait for the DLC-like

wide zodiac
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Basicaly, the Cabal were in D1 but it was an outpost that got wrecked by us and then went extinct thanks to Oryx. But the last surviviors of the mess sent a message out to one Dominus Ghaul...

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tawdry tree
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If wolf absorbed the light from the tree of light ( which is a chunk of the traveler btw) he will be the strongest lightbearer

strange frigate
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Sometimes i wish i didn't play rising until next year maybe it have more story content oh so Sad

wide zodiac
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wide zodiac
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Or you can try some youtube videos, byf is good if you can filter out his bias from fact

bright pier
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Wolf did say along the lines in the beginning "Wolf feels like its meant to be my name, so we'll go with that" .... and all the lightbeares are Iron Wolves if im not mistaken, and he's like the hero of haven, etc etc. "Rising" hints at something too unless i missed that lore somewhere, which could mean Rising (game) will be for sure story driven, but curious where Wolf finishes w/ this game

bright pier
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I love the brutalist scifi designs they did w/ the Vex. tbh, i want to see artwork and would LOVE picture mode

wide zodiac
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Unless that competancy is in maintaining a classic car collection.

tawdry tree
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We are currently in the uniting humanity together saga

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bright pier
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tbh, i think a lot of things at play. Reshaping, M$ def has their hand in things, employees, new leaders, etc etc. Dont think there is a single cause to Bungie's shakeup per se. Just w/ the times. tbh, Rising is a relief, it feels great. And ngl, I spent just the $1 bundle and i have 5 main toons, just about max at 10 acclaim 😛

strange frigate
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Im very excited for destiny 2 star wars

red stump
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I have a question about Gwynn's Story (Final), but I don't want to spoil the story. 😅🙈

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||Does Gwynn really kill Kyle's (Balder's) Ghost?||

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bright pier
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Thanks for blocking. I haven’t started her story yet. Finishing Kabr next. That shield is so OP in PvP. lol drop it anywhere and just move around behind it while draining them, they gotta escape or have help cause I’ll just blind if they keep attacking lol

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I’m not hyped for the nerfs, but they’re needed. Jolder & Ning too strong

harsh cedar
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||Harrow legit pulled a Eramis, unleash Vex on her own people||

bright pier
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Don’t know anyone playing Xuan, he needs some better tweaks.

wide zodiac
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granite phoenix
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Do I unlock Ning fei during the main story campaign?

wide zodiac
# harsh cedar Yep

Also, her plan was more accurately ||To make herself pay for the wish we made, rather then us to pay the price.||

Sadly, ||Ahamkara wishes are not some toy to be used so easily either.||

bright wren
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ughhh I want more Gwynn/ Attal cutscenes

strange frigate
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who are the 3 most powerful beings in rising that we have 1. met 2. isnt god level beings like the traveler or the hive gods to me this is a very easy answer its the sentinel,buhr and wolf in his powered up state and 4th is well the cats

bright wren
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or perhaps, even Attal, since she's basically tamed her... lol

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lusty talon
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True

storm coral
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What accent does Jolder have?

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harsh cedar
versed iris
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(Also, how has it been almost 5 years since Beyond Light????)

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versed iris
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Ok, I just double checked why it felt so fuzzy to my brain, it’s tied into the Glassway and unless I’m being bullied into it, I avoid that strike like the plague these days. Grandmaster Glassway is a crime and will make you hate everything.

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Like, I no longer associate it with the story mission it started as because I’ve done it as just a strike with Elsie’s dialogue instead so many times.

foggy estuary
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hopefully we'll get a more raw interpretation of saint-14 when the only thing he was concerned with was genociding fallen

worn zinc
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With how intertwined Saint’s lore is to the Young Wolf idk how Saint would be written

cunning bison
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do we know any of the story about how Radegast and Morgram became allies?

wraith carbon
narrow pecan
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Radegast adopted a baby

Except that baby has paracausal reality breaking power and it's only his respect for Radegast that keeps him from ignoring his restrictions

elfin spruce
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^^^

quiet goblet
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So we know that Gwynne hunted warlords to a final death but what y'all think about her vs Dredgen yor

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I personally think yor takes it

cunning bison
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i was going to ask if you think Harrow will end up becoming an even more important character given what we learned about her vanishing but i just realized i cant actually end up remembering what kind of condition she was in at the end of the story

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She followed a dead Ahamkara's voice into a sealed cave and her eyes were glowing, beyond that it haven't the foggiest. I do think she'll be important in what's to come

cunning bison
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ok it was just a cliffhanger and i didnt forget part of the story lol good

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it feels like she could be a bigger ally or somehow get twisted into a big baddie villain

slate cape
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Room for Big Bad Ahamkara characters in this time period

cunning bison
wraith carbon
# cunning bison rise is a prequel, right? if they are in the other destiny games are they all wi...

Rising is an alternate timeline in the past. It's not a direct prequel.

Ahamkara in the main timeline were all hunted down in the early days of the City. We only knew directly of one's survival: Riven of the One Thousand Voices, living in the Dreaming City. We killed her in Destiny 2: Forsaken. She had a clutch of eggs that we saved in a recent season, however.
The Ahamkara Hunt has not happened in DR's timeline. We're definitely learning more about Ahamkara in this timeline soon, if the cliffhanger ending and the most recent social media posts are anything to go by.

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strange frigate
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Heres a question who were the 6 guardians who in the lore actually did the monolith raid now 1 character is obvious which is wolf but the 5 others hmmm

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wraith carbon
# cunning bison can you give me a quick summary of the story involving the monolith raid? i am s...

Monolith is entirely in the Rising timeline. The first half of the campaign goes over it.
Essentially, we needed to help out Jiangshi Metro so we could restore a global communications hub, and they've been under siege by a Fallen house called the House of Devils. The Devils are a thing in the main timeline, too, they're one of the main antagonistic Eliksni houses. Essentially, Jiangshi has access to a space elevator, and the Devils utilized it to build a massive fortress in space. The Gauntlet mode is about eliminating the threat of the fortress, before they detach from the elevator and collapse it on top of Jiangshi.
The leader, Isaakis, is a Splicer, which is am eliksni tech priest. He put his brain into a Walker tank.

cunning bison
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oh gotcha, thats the one everyone is complaining about ppl not knowing how to do lol

wraith carbon
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Yup yup

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As is the eternal struggle with Destiny raids

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strange frigate
cunning bison
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ahh i see, i was following along with what was happening in the story, just forgot that it was called the monolith

strange frigate
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Hmm maybe gwynn, kabr and tan was also there since they worked with wolf before at least going by the trailer

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cunning bison
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looked for 'monolith' in the in-game dictionary and it said no results found, thanks dictionary!

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strange frigate
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What why not i mean wolf, tan and gwynn are perfect togheter altough i switch jolder with gwynn's friend

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cunning bison
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it didnt even find anything for 'ikora', they probably have it set so you can only search with chinese characters or something lol

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it seems Jolder is high ranking enough she can do whatever she wants without checking in with the Iron Lords so maybe she popped in to help impromptu style

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wraith carbon
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Yes

cunning bison
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nice, thanks!

astral venture
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Yeah I'm going to say my thoughts on the first half with the fallen kind of abruptly ended before we go to the cabal stuff The second half (with one or two moments with the other factions)

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I know we're going to get more content in future updates but it does feel kind of abrupt even though I felt the story was good despite feeling incomplete in one or two moments

cunning bison
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same, i was kinda shocked when the credits just started rolling when they did

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Issakis felt like a filler villain

wraith carbon
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Both Isaakis and Buhr were definitely villains of the week

cunning bison
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not sure if it is accurate but i heard a rumor saying they are introducing two new lightbringers this week that were in the beta, maybe they will be introduced as lightbringers that helped with the raid?

wraith carbon
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Judging from the social account's most recent posts, they're going in a different direction with Estela's reveal

cunning bison
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was that her on the beach?

strange frigate
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It feels weird beating buhr 1v1 and issakis 1v6

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buhr was like 5% of a really interesting villain lol, he needed to be fleshed out more for sure

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astral venture
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So any predictions on where we're going with the story next until was hopefully doing vex or Hive first before we go deal with Wish dragons and also probably get the awoken here (surprising they're not here to be honest yet)

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jolder but she fires her annoying assistants 🙂

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astral venture
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I'm excited for her and although I'm trying to get tan-2 before that (Even though I wanted gwynn But I'm skipping her for now)

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Also I'm really excited for estela

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tan-2 is crazy good

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i need to finish his storyline

astral venture
# cunning bison tan-2 is crazy good

Yeah I can agree although I was kind of expecting to swing his whenever he's in Dawnstar for his super I thought he was going to swing that sword

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drifting coyote
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[handBOOK] & Character Chapters (side missions???)...
So... Are some of the Character Stories... After the MAIN Chapters (handBook)?...
or Between Chapters?..

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wide zodiac
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Question about Gwynn's quest: Does Attal's quest show "Balder" being more of a monster or something? Becuase as far as I can tell in Gwynn character story he seems genuinely remorseful for what he did. Either way, smart move for Gwynn to kill his ghost.

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In 3 days the stuff for the season will unlock

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wraith carbon
rustic elk
# cunning bison it seems Jolder is high ranking enough she can do whatever she wants without che...

Jolder as Iron Champion is seemingly a step above the Iron Wolves, wherein rather than being a representative of any single Iron Lord, and by extension their standing beneath the Iron Banner in their name, she instead is essentially an Iron Lord on the same standing is Lady Skorri, who takes up an equivalent role as the Iron Bard, just without land holding or the absolute final say in Iron Banner politics in the way Lords like Saladin, Radegast and Gareth have/had.

Which makes sense, as she does go on to become a fully fledged iron lord in the main timeline, I'd wager that maybe such titles as Bard, Champion, Iron Wolf, etc if they ever did exist in the main timeline would have potentially gotten phased out or rolled into the ranks of fully fledged iron Lords as they moved away from landholding peacekeepers to a travelling anti-warlord militant group with more conventional military ranks, structures and uniformity

wide zodiac
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Also, yeah, the burning of London has apparently already happened in the DR timeline

wide zodiac
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Oh he's absolutely a terrible person, I gathered that from the quest itself and context in it. But as you say, better to learn eventualy then never at all, and it seems like he did learn.

wraith carbon
rustic elk
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Yeah that sounds right from what I have read

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She has like a dozen+ names in her diary of warlords she's killed

wide zodiac
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Indeed, I liked how Gwynn handled the situation honestly. "I'll let you live, but you only get the one life."

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Seems fair tbh esepeicaly if his ghost was sufffering and he regrerttedt that

wraith carbon
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That was apparently his turning point

red stump
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What I don‘t understand is, there is one awoken in Haven, but… How? 🤔 The Story, so far, takes place on Earth. 😅 How did she become an Awakened One and where did she come from?

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worn zinc
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People not familiar with Destiny lore must be so confused why Skorri is blue lol

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Yeah I hope that Haven makes contact with the Reef at some point in the future
Awoken are one of the weirder things to explain

zinc pasture
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Question about Shifting Gates

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Why are we murdering other science teams for their data like it's Gambit?

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I didn't fully pay attention to the explanation for wtf we're doing and why as Donovan-17 was yapping

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rustic elk
# red stump What I don‘t understand is, there is one awoken in Haven, but… How? 🤔 The Story...

Even in the main timeline the arrival of Awoken to earth is... messy

After the events of the Exodus Green's (aka Colony Ship: Yang Liwei) exposure to both light and Dark Paracausal Energies, it seems most awoken stayed in the distributary, many others went to the reef, and early on from the Reef age, some rapidly found their way to earth, as Awoken have been resurrected in all sorts of pre/mid collapse locations, so the timeline of Awoken, let alone Awoken Lightbearers arriving on earth, is extremely narrow, arguably narrower than Exos

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Huh, so that's why they're plentiful on earth

pliant wharf
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Y'a des francias sur ce jeu ?

zinc pasture
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No idea what you just said

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short scroll
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any good lore sauce

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Hmmmm, maybe?

I mean a part of me thinks she could just be french and have just died in Africa? she does immediately make her way to europe upon resurrection, but also yeah North Africa has a lot of french roots and dialects so Morocco is definitely a possibility

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Actually the more I think on it, Morocco (or whatever passes for it in the Destiny setting's weird geography) is probably the most likely candidate

Attal as a name is also pretty popular in France and Morocco so that doesn't help haha

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worn zinc
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The revival locations seem a bit confusing, with Ikora apparently being rezzed in North Africa in this timeline

rustic elk
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That said it's a bit bizarre how a third of the cast were all rezzed in Northern Africa

Ikora, Finnala & Attal are all North Africa Revivals

wraith carbon
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Ikora said she woke up in a desert

rustic elk
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The Sahara would probably make that lore work?

fiery swallow
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What weapons did the void hunter “Umeko” use in the beta tests???
Anyone can answer???

rustic elk
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Iirc it was scouts and snipes like Tan

bright pier
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I hope more green / close forestry bright places come in the expansions. Gates is a pretty place.

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Hey @rustic elk when you play Kabr do you yell “SHAAAABOLLLLLT” with his shield blind ability? lol jk. Cool name

mystic canyon
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how does zev get destroyed by regular cabal in the stealth mission i thought ghosts could only be destroyed by something paracausal

rustic elk
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Another good example would be Targe, Zavala's ghost, he was disabled by a Cabal Light supressor in the leadup to an assasination attempt on the Lightbearer Zavala. The Psions sought to disable his ghost and off Zavala whilst his ghost was inert as even if his ghost was reusrrected after the fact it would not have been able to save him due to the form of ammo used

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wide zodiac
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Honestly, I feel like I want to get each character to a high enough level to use Iron Commander well at least, and after that find and foccus on my main

bright pier
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wide zodiac
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TBH Iron Commander is great for just converting some spare puinnacle energy into if you don't plan on farming heavily for a bit

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Or are hitting the cap on energy and need to spend it

strange frigate
wide zodiac
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Vex slap rifle and Curse of Osiris cutscene

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For some reason on the Vex's weapons on their arms is called a Slap Rifle. No, I do not know WHY

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velvet verge
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I wonder where eris morn is during destiny rising.

foggy estuary
maiden tangle
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​​yoo broo wadap,can you tell me how to craf main wepon wolf Sweet Business,i look in craf synthesize with catalyst item,there is noting to carf sweet business

worn zinc
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From what I know the Slap Rifle isn’t actually designed as a weapon, it just happens to work as a weapon, since the Vex Goblins aren’t combat units

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It kinda just takes solar energy and flings it towards us hence the “slap” term

foggy estuary
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Yea. And line obviously cuz it makes a line

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elfin spruce
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lol I know there’s so many people I want to see but it won’t work story wise

slate cape
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Ok, I love how Rising utilizes old unused concept art

The new character coming out is like 💯 inspired by the unused Ahamkara subclass concept art

elfin spruce
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Yeah I agree it looks sick

forest skiff
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sooo any idea if we gonna get estella after gwynn goes away orrrr

elfin spruce
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Rumor is the 11th

forest skiff
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hmmm with the new season makes sense

elfin spruce
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Yeah that’s all anyone can guess rn

vital heron
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What do we think Estella wished for? A ghost?, maybe she just has a ahamkara in her servitude?

wraith carbon
strange frigate
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Heres a question is wolf a hunter or a warlock like he looks like a hunter however his Powers especially his super feels way more like a warlock

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spare niche
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So, Kyle getting "punished" by the traveler, are we dealing with a traveler that actually interferes? 🤔 In D1 and 2 it kinda seems like the traveler couldnt care less. As far as I remember it's never directly punished anyone before

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Kyle just mortal now why would the traveler interferer

wraith carbon
# strange frigate Nooo warlock...

We typically "class" the lightbearers based on their visual design, jump, and melee
Wolf wears a cloak, has double jump, and punches like a hunter
Ergo, they're a hunter with a dawnblade

strange frigate
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Damn the jump i forgot about that jump

strange frigate
wraith carbon
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I actually personally think the dawnblade D2 warlocks summon is the light imprint of the Parhelion Wing

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Kind of like how hunters summon the golden gun, which is straight up the last word

strange frigate
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Ah right tan also got a sword

spare niche
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This was before he was made mortal

strange frigate
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Did she? I did gwynn's quest and i don't remember that

wraith carbon
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She did basically say that

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Kyle's MIND page states that his Ghost became damaged during the razing of London

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Because he hid during it

spare niche
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Yee, I will go back and get what she says word for word. But I swear she used the word punishment

vital heron
strange frigate
spare niche
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Could be, either way. Never heard of anything like that happening in destiny In general. So he's either a complete anomaly or we are gonna get to see a traveler that actually plays a bigger part! Either way, just curious 🧐 wondering if we'll see something similar again in this game

strange frigate
wraith carbon
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Lightbearers are pretty gnostic right now, believing the traveler is essentially a god
It would definitely fit someone like Gwynn who believes in divine retribution to say that that was a punishment from the traveler

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Also I find it fascinating that the razing of london has happened already

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There's a non zero chance we end up seeing Namrask at his worst eventually

strange frigate
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Well yes true

wraith carbon
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If we ever see an Akileuks the Smokesword, we'll know what he did

spare niche
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Facts

zinc pasture
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Question since I don't know much about Destiny lore

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What exactly happens differently in Rising compared to 1 and 2's timeline?

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I know Rising sets like. Afew decades after the fall of the Golden Era

wraith carbon
# zinc pasture I know Rising sets like. Afew decades after the fall of the Golden Era

Centuries. Dark Ages lasted a while. We're barely out of the dark ages in DR.
As for what's different...so far, not a lot? The tree of light doesn't exist in the main timeline, nor do sentinels, as far as we can tell. There hasn't been anything that directly contradicts the main timeline. We just happen to be before most of the major events in the history of the last city.

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Mostly it's additions instead of exceptions, right now.

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We'll see how that continues in the future.

zinc pasture
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So atm they're probably just setting things up for the changes?

prime cave
zinc pasture
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Giving us context for some things happening right now and what the current state of the world is?

prime cave
zinc pasture
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Oh hey! The Vex are here too?

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Wait, wasn't the Cabal first discovered in Mars?

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Or is that just where they set uo shop?

wraith carbon
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Their main base still sounds like it's on Phobos, though.

zinc pasture
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Got it, thanks!

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Another question, ehat exactly are these relics being used by the cyrrent Lightbearers we can play as?

prime cave
wraith carbon
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They're objects infused with Light that they use to focus their abilities. We're so early in the timeline that Light isn't well enough understood for Lightbearers to wield it without them

prime cave
zinc pasture
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Ohhhhhh, so they're like wands for Lightbearers atm

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And in D1 and 2 they don't use em since we know how to harness the stuff betterer

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Makes sense, since we can just manifest a flaming sword or a gun

wraith carbon
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Yup, precisely. The campaign seems to be gearing towards a direction of Wolf being the first lightbearer to break those kinds of boundaries, though.

zinc pasture
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So the first knife flinger

prime cave
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The first [REDACTED]

wraith carbon
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Yeah I don't want to spoil it. The end of the campaign is hype.

zinc pasture
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Ohhhhhh, so that's why the current Lightbearers probably can't swap between all three elements atm too

wraith carbon
zinc pasture
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Question, when do people stop calling us Lightbearers and call us Guardians instead?

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Curious what made them transition to Guardian

wary whale
zinc pasture
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Ah, understood 👌

slate cape
# storm coral Where’s that info at?

It's not directly stated

Look up Gabo Garza on Artstation. He is the senior lead concept artist at Bungie.

There is a concept piece from Lightfall, it was the early explorations of a subclass - it was Ahamkara themed. They went in a different direction with Strand.

The colors and shapes are exactly what we see used for Estela's Ahamkara powers in Destiny Rising

The idea of Giant Robots is also something that can be seen in old D1 concept art

wraith carbon
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I have the giant robot concepts saved on my phone, I can share those later.

worn zinc
zinc pasture
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Is joke, best guess is Wolf will set the stage for Warlock's fire sword thing

worn zinc
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I assume Tan’s sword is the early Dawnblade

slate cape
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Correct

worn zinc
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I wonder if Gwynn’s visions of the God of Death will have anything to do with Nezerac, since Nezerac’s original design does resemble the traditional idea of Death

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It would be very cool if they built up several Disciples of the Witness over the course of the narrative - rather than just the couple we saw in D2

rancid nexus
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I think the Witness is quite a ways off from consideration at this point tbh

slate cape
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for sure, I am just saying that they could utilize the Disciples long before we even see the Witness.

drowsy zealot
turbid elbow
olive parcel
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Go to my name is byf he just made a lore video about the nine

prime cave
turbid elbow
torn dove
zinc pasture
cunning bison
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Ok so kinda lore discussion topic kinda now but to all Destiny Vets, you reckon we'll get the other members of the Vanguard like Zavala, and Cayde? If so they have to relic them what do you think the relics would be? Wanted to see what people have to say

astral venture
lone lake
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I'm waiting to see if they are going to bring in future Darkness subclass guardians.

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The imagination and build diversity can be so huge that I'm really excited to see what they are going to bring.

vital heron
lone lake
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I know that it has been asked multiple times but I wanted to know as well. Is this an alternative universe or some sort of Dark Age era?

wraith carbon
slate cape
cunning bison
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How do I get the exotic Nezarecs chin?

lone lake
lone lake
vital heron
slate cape
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guys, hear me out - Abe Lincoln resurrected

strange frigate
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Lol what?

glacial owl
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wait really?

lone lake
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Since the possibilities are much bigger than in D2, do you people think that may we get in future a playable eliksni or cabal guardian?

glacial owl
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Did you play D2?

charred ingot
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charred ingot
strange frigate
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Im getting more and more Powerful as wolf and soon mommy! I mean estela

charred ingot
strange frigate
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Finally reached acclaim 18 now i can just upgrade everyone else to at least Silver perhaps even fully gold

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Wait this isnt general lmao

unborn agate
lone lake
strange frigate
bright pier
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Seems like just the 2 new characters this month. Then content rest of year. Love it. Hoping more vex stuff. Would be cool to see a vex hybrid lightbearer next year but content this year

strange frigate
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We need more vex bosses and enemies give us an actual warrior vex

lone lake
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I'm mostly waiting for Crota raid

bright pier
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Is the vex pool / water looking the actual vex themselves? Like I think one boss is surrounded by a giant lake / waterfalls. It looks like the vex 🤷‍♂️ lol

wide zodiac
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Kinda but kinda not

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It's more like you put that in a chassis and that is Vex

bright pier
wide zodiac
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the vex don't really "Hang out." They are kinda the ultimate workaholics, and their work is universal conversion.

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Ironicaly, every other alien race is more likely to "hang out" then them, as long as we consider the hive's idea of hanging out being combat.

strange frigate
strange frigate
wide zodiac
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I will have to take your word on that one, I left after Final Shape's second round of firings so I dunno what any of the people in destiny have been up to after we beat up Witness.

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Far as I'm concerned my Guardain killed the ultimate evil, then retired to run a library or something

strange frigate
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Well final shape also has some quiet not normal vex like the once who working with the witness pretty sure they were straight up religious and fanatic zealots towards the witness

strange frigate
wide zodiac
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Honestly, I hadn't even planned on coming in for Rising either, but then I heard that some of the music guys that got fired from Bungie did some work on Rising's OST, and just as them being fired was my catalyst for leaving D2, it was my catalyst for trying Rising.

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Which so far I am not regretting, I just wish I had a better idea of what to chase then I do generaly.

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The game does a good job of tutorialzing a lot of things, but a lot of things aren't and I have no idea what to go after half the time lol. My CURRENT plan is to get character quests out the way. After that... no idea.

strange frigate
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I saw gwynn and thought yes

strange frigate
wide zodiac
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I like Gwynn's character quest because she shows inteligence during it and comes up with a clever plan and fitting punishment

wide zodiac
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So my plan is to just build as many and varioed resources as I can

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Thing is there's so many that even with the handy hints saying where they are and come form, I cannot track them all.

strange frigate
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But one day i do it and hopefully i can get every character to gold before Christmas expt for like future characters well estella and umiko wont be a problem

wide zodiac
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And that's how they get you. I just brought (And regretted) a bunch of Silver to work my way towards that sweet Wolf Skin. (Wolf is my highest because I figured "They will probably use him a lot for story later on, so he's the wisest investment"

Which was one of my smarter choices in the game I feel. (One of few among many stupid ones: I just leveled attal for my other medal from nothing despite having characters I had invested more in already)

strange frigate
wide zodiac
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You know, I don't even know how you are meant to get whatever item you don't select. Is it just lost to you forever?

strange frigate
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Huh i dont know

wide zodiac
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Do I have to choose between Cool Wolf Drop and Cool Fast Sparrow?

strange frigate
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Maybe they be avaible later

zinc pasture
zinc pasture
wide zodiac
foggy estuary
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Also besides kind of savathun we don't have to worry about "diplomacy" with them and Caitl will have no problem waging war on Xivu

wide zodiac
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Savathun doesn't do diplomacy, she does a little thing called "Making you think you are being diplomatic with her meanwhile she is doing something that both absolutely wrecks you and helps you at once"

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Like, I dunno, Attack Diplomacy or something

zinc pasture
zinc pasture
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Anyways, question, would it conflict with the lore if we get the Tractor Cannon in Rising?

wraith carbon
zinc pasture
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So from what I've heard, shes a Tzeecthian Skaven God of the Hive

wide zodiac
# zinc pasture Is she a Skaven or something? Tf?

More like a trickster god whose only loyalty is to herself. And Maybe her sisters, but considering that the Hive show their love by murder, that's not really a improvement over self loyalty only.

zinc pasture
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So like Dante and Virgil but the stabbing is mutually accepted

wide zodiac
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Yeah kinda

zinc pasture
strange frigate
lofty ravine
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hi

strange frigate
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Gasp its mummie

stark yarrow
strange frigate
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There was a stream?

strange frigate
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So appearently vex plays card now

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Ok this is clearly the biggest proof of Rising being a Vex Simulation yet, we are being trained to play Shadowshaper Duels so the vex have interesting card game opponants.

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It also explains why Duelist Coins only have the one source and that is playing other players

strange frigate
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Are you saying vex using characters like wolf so one Day they can challenge the guardian in renegade impossible

wide zodiac
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Exactly!

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It's all a sim so they beat The Guardian at cards and win a big hustle

strange frigate
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Perfect

lofty ravine
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ö

tawdry tree
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Å

low heart
# wide zodiac Far as I'm concerned my Guardain killed the ultimate evil, then retired to run a...

Narrative Lead Allison Luhrs stated that The Nine are more powerful than the Witness, even though they are NOT paracausal (how much more if they are). Yet something is spooked them so bad that they need a "Weapon".

Something is worse than the Witness out there and we just don't know it yet, and might have linked to the prophesized extinction III (member of the nine bound to Earth) is talking about.

But don't worry. Rest. We will take things from here. For I have found a new purpose. I am the chosen weapon of the Nine.

strange frigate
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Or this one?

strange frigate
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Hmm probably the latter

dark slate
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I wonder who we’re getting as characters in the future from like the lore

strange frigate
dark slate
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oh

astral venture
zinc pasture
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But the Nine are not only stronger, but they're afraid of something so bad that they're looking for a weapon to murderize it dead?

astral venture
# strange frigate I mean estel and umeko

Can't wait for those two to be honest also you know I'm going to put at some point we'll have to fight the witness and maybe about I'm going to say 5 years time to be honest? But for now we're kind of focusing on the wish-making dragons at the story-wise unless they're going to find ways to tease the witness

zinc pasture
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Wait isn't the Witness in D2?

astral venture
zinc pasture
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Oh nah it's fine dood

astral venture
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Yeah but anyways I can't wait to see where the story goes for now since while it's good I felt incomplete

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Anyways I recently played two or three sidequest and one of them sort of gives a bit of a backstory to Wolf before becoming Resurrection as well as also wish from earlier from the chase scene

cerulean thunder
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Always more story to come

native marten
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I’m confused by the ending of Finnala’s questline

burnt lynx
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child speaker threw me off

strange frigate
strange frigate
astral venture
strange frigate
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Unless the game suddenly timeskips like several centuries into the future i highly doubt it

wraith carbon
strange frigate
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Ah

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Yup, there we go

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astral venture
strange frigate
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True true

strange frigate
slate cape
astral venture
strange frigate
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Im very excited for renegade

astral venture
# strange frigate Im very excited for renegade

I would say my thoughts on it is physically Destiny's Star wars expansion (Lucas films is helping it) anyways good to be honest despite the mix reception but not that interested to be honest

And this is guy who still likes Star wars despite that's ups and downs But overwhelm with that franchise these days

strange frigate
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cool

bright pier
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anything on D3? I'm just curious how deep they go w/ the "main" lore. Since Rising they can sort of try some things, and cancel things that dont work. I just don't know how hard and deep they'll go w/ the main overall Destiny Universe, etc within Rising, or wait till D3 and be heavier with it.

small mantle
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I'm excited for the non SW parts, EoF was good story wise so Renegades should atleast be, coherent, unlike some DLC's (lightfall)

small mantle
wraith carbon
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"unless"

bright pier
# small mantle D3 won't happen anytime soon. Most of Bungie's budget is on Marathon, unless it ...

Forgot about that game. lol. ugh, it flopped when they announced it. lol. I dont have any faith for that game, think they went the wrong direction in trying to copy pasta other arena shooters. Looked rushed, and imo hurt Bungie's artistic styles too. Idk, they might turn it around, but hope it helps push more D3. lol. I'm sure they have a small team doing some D3, but probably no major teams yet.

I wasn't expecting D3 till at least 2027 earliest, but didn't know if rumors / news started yet. Not a biggie, i dont like 2-3yrs news anyways. lol. Rising could also be test game to know where to take D3 in some ways.

small mantle
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I have no stake on Marathon, I wish it didn't exist and instead was destiny 3, but I don't care for it at all.

Bungie doesn't have enough people to develop both destiny and Marathon, there ain't anything done on D3

bright pier
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Don't think anyone wants a game like that to begin with. It wont do well from the start, but they might milk it for a solid year. who knows. Rising is a refresher though, I love it.

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Roadmap seems fine to me, I could play it a year for sure.

wide zodiac
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Even a broken warlord can have a point twice a day

astral venture
strange frigate
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Saint 14 gonna appear in december

tribal lantern
hearty sundial
# wraith carbon Yup, there we go

It's rather bizarre ngl but I guess they did so because they indiscriminately search for ANY person attuned to the Traveler regardless of age.

Still, using a child for faction wars.... man.

summer ravine
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Now that I think about it... why am I the only one with an animal name?

lament chasm
bronze heron
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Any germans here?

muted vortex
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Do rats and mice exist in destiny

strange frigate
prime cave
bronze heron
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Hi

tight wadi
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Is there a Bettel Royale?

strange frigate
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Yes hi gasp rat king the true god

wraith carbon
turbid elbow
# strange frigate Yes hi gasp rat king the true god

Super fun in pvp

I remember back in D2, I'd play void hunter with rat king.

Just chain the invisibility, and never face your opponent head-on. Always from the side, or from behind.
You'll have a positive kdr, unless they can pick up on the outline of your character, while invisible. There were some players who could pick up on it, but most of the time, I'd move too quickly.

wraith carbon
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i want dual rat kings in dr

strange frigate
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You think its illegal to shot a guardian in the face with sword

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Actually what would the sentence even be hmm

torpid dawn
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You guys think we’ll get Siva splicers in rising? Considering bungie seems to avoid them like the plague despite their popularity. I would love to see them in rising maybe alongside outbreak prime/perfected.

I feel like it’s not too far fetched since splicers are brought up pretty often in the game now.

astral venture
tame nest
crisp mason
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Just had this thought, sure it's been discussed before, if there is at least one giant mech still alive in Rising, could we not glean humanity's entire history from it?

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Unless it doesn't have true memory/conscious and only up to the directive of protecting humanity would permit

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In a way, maybe sharing humanity's history would do more harm than good so by not divulging, it is protecting in a way

strange frigate
strange frigate
fringe edge
fringe edge
dim cargo
strange frigate
kindred sleet
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So estela having an ahamkara thoughts

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One thing ive always wondered about those dragons is if normal humans can wish to be lightbearers

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I mean they can grant anything

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Right...

strange frigate
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Im not sure they can hmmm

wraith carbon
mental hearth
kindred sleet
wraith carbon
# kindred sleet Depends on the dragon

Yeah we know of at least one dragon who didn't twist wishes. Unfortunately he died from starvation after wishing for his eggs to get safe, RIP Taranis

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Honestly, meeting him in DR continuity could be neat

carmine tulip
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Y'all think Saint and Zavala could be arc, since both were arc before Void prior to the Vanguard creation.

pearl crag
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Why doesn't Morgran just fix all the iron lords problems? Ok he has drawbacks but surely an alien invasion is worse for humanity

wraith carbon
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His wishes aren't really under his control. When Radegast wished for a problem to go away, it came back inside Morgran's realm and almost starved him

pearl crag
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Makes sense, he seems to be juvenile is there a chance we meet more adults who could do it?

strange frigate
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Morgran

wide zodiac
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If you wish for a bacon sandwhich, it will be soggy.

If you wish for a cabal to choke on a bacon sandwhich, it will do so and fall over onto a nuke button.

If a cabal wishes for a bacon sandwhich, it will choke on it and probably also fall on a nuke button.

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No matter who makes the wish, it will backfire for them.

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It. Will. ALWAYS. Backfire.

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Even the one dragon who made a selfless wish on himself had it backfire. He died.

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So no, Radagast can't just wish for the iron lords issues to be fixed.

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Not unless he wants the solution to arrive in a SIVA warhead or something

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About the best one can MAYBE hope for is to make a wish in such a way that when it DOES f you over, you can accept it. Like how Tanriss knew the price for his wish would be death, and accepted it.

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Even then, as Rising proves, that doesn't always work...

strange frigate
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This will always be my favorite looking hive

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polar abyss
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U cant forget the king him self 🤫🤯😂🫶🏻 @strange frigate

strange frigate
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Eh he like number 3

wide zodiac
strange frigate
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Yes warpriest wait they have a name!?

wide zodiac
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I know they have a name, But I mighjt be getting my hive confused

bright pier
wide zodiac
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I think Kelgorth might be that guy who xivu arath promoted as a cosmic joke come to think of it

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Anyway, I am pretty sure that eithert that is the warpriests name, or that the warpriest HAS a name but that's not it

strange frigate
wide zodiac
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You know, I kinda think you looked that up just to double check, and if so, I have no retort. My mistake

strange frigate
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also kelgorth is a completely diffrent hive which is obvious when you consider warpriest died in the taken king raid and kelgorth shows up in d2 like 2 years ago its obious they diffrent

wide zodiac
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It's been a while ok my destiny lore is rusty and spotty\

strange frigate
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well we got google

zinc pasture
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Also question, how's the culture regarding Lightbearers being able to respawn in Risings setting?

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Specifically how weird we can be and whether or not we junp to our deaths for funsies

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Curious if it was significantly different atm cimpared to1 and 2's

dense cave
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dont ghosts in general need to be killed by crushing it with the light
like cayde keeled over and died after his ghost got shot
as well as zavala got a disabled ghost and almost got sniped

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also WE kill light hive by crushing ghosts

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also they can go mftl to disapearim psure

dense cave
random vault
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Bro Estela story quest is so good

zinc pasture
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I'm asking how Lightbearers are right now in regards to goofy things like this

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FOUND THE WIKI PAGE

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It's for the exotic gjost shell"Electronica Shell" and the lore it comes with is this:

Electronica Shell
For Ghosts who love to groove.

What Do Guardians Do When They're Not Saving the Solar System?
by Ember Hadad, Senior Editor at the City Herald

When I started my research for this piece, I expected to find that Guardians, when not waging war against alien invaders with mysterious paracausal powers, were not too different from their fellow citizens of the Last City.

Readers, I was wrong.

Guardians dance a lot more than we do.

"That's pretty much all they do, when I see them," says Park Soo-Yin, a maintenance worker in the Guardian headquarters. "Just dance. Sometimes in groups, sometimes all alone."

"Sometimes they kind of dance 'at' each other, if you know what I mean," Vanguard technician Kweku Aglah confirms. "I feel like I'm watching the nature channel."

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Weird goofy stuff like this

muted shuttle
hot pivot
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As someone who has formed a line of people spinning in the tower, I love that Guardians dancing at each other is actual canon love

dense cave
marble notch
#

This Sentinel vs Wish Dragons is getting very interesting.

turbid finch
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What is the sentinel anyways, I wasn't really understanding since I thought they were giant robots created to defend earth? But they have their own conciousness?

strange frigate
tawdry tree
upbeat kiln
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my question is: were they made by the traveler, like a ghost? if so, why would the traveler also find the need to make ghosts and guardians? were they created pre or post collapse?

prime cave
upbeat kiln
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oh dang i never saw that

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that also kind of begs the question. the light was able to be “harnessed” in the golden age? i know its AU but in normal destiny canon i dont think its ever come up. the same thing with the exotic grenade launcher, we knew the Riis was “blessed by great machine” but it was never stated if they were actually gift the ability to wield the light ever.

I know the answer is probably just “alternate universe” and left at that, but its really intriguing to me.

tawdry tree
prime cave
upbeat kiln
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all i know is that being blessed by the traveler has always been pretty vague

worn zinc
#

more Attal slander is crazy

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weary adder
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If this game is set in an alternative timeline, is it possible that Wolf and Ikora Rey could reproduce and as a result birth Cayde-6 onto the world of destiny? I mean just curiosity idk-

upbeat kiln
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mods delete this man from the timeline

hollow lava
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yo wth

tawdry tree
worn zinc
weary adder
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Come on man 🙁 it could be possible for it to be real lore

tawdry tree
strange frigate
weary adder
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Do furries exist in the destinyverse? If no, could Netease implement them?

strange frigate
#

... Weirdo!

worn zinc
#

Wait they actually did

strange frigate
worn zinc
#

Early drafts of Destiny had Tigermen as a race

weary adder
worn zinc
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But they were cut early on

strange frigate
worn zinc
weary adder
#

Actually- I’m glad these don’t exist

worn zinc
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It’s extremely early draft Destiny stuff

weary adder
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These look like uncanny valley nightmare fuel

upbeat kiln
#

bungie was really into tigers in that first draft

strange frigate
worn zinc
#

Destiny’s engine is straight up called the Tiger Engine

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It’s like their obsession with the number 7

strange frigate
#

I thought 9 was their obsession

worn zinc
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It’s definitely the number 7, Bungie day is 7/7, Bungie’s 7-Step Plan for World Domination, John-117, etc

weary adder
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They didn’t make a Cayde-7 though

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Maybe NetEase will… after they make Wolf and Ikora Rey… yes O_O

tawdry tree
#

ERASE THYSELF!!!

strange frigate
cinder falcon
left scarab
#

so destiny 2 has just combusted all of the lore by making a starwars dlc

left scarab
strange frigate
little nimbus
#

How do u get light of traveler tag?

fickle hollow
#

ll

left scarab
# strange frigate How?

i dont mean literally i just mean in terms of integrity, by ripping content from starwars with no originality at all

worn zinc
#

i will die for Tin Can

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worn zinc
cinder falcon
strange frigate
worn zinc
#

they didn't want 2 voices in her head ig lol

cinder falcon
#

prolly not 😭

#

her quest was scary i wish they did more like that with the original characters

weary adder
worn zinc
#

estella really be going through it in the lore

left scarab
cinder falcon
strange frigate
left scarab
left scarab
strange frigate
weary adder
#

Would it be bad if spoilered the last main quest mission? How do I hide messages again lol?

worn zinc
#

Put || at the start and end

weary adder
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Thank you

#

They dismissed my message 🙁 anyway

prime cave
frosty tapir
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i like ghosts

#

where is cayde

prime cave
#

Ah yeah no need to send the message then

weary adder
frosty tapir
#

wack

weary adder
prime cave
frosty tapir
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frick

mental hearth
worn zinc
#

Estella should’ve had a bow primary like in her quest ngl

strange frigate
#

Yeah

upbeat kiln
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i did her opening quest and sighed when i thought about Ash & Iron

weary adder
frosty tapir
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crossbow

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not sure about actual bows

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tan has crossbow

tawdry tree
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Actual bows are probably for the future

weary adder
fallow ice
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shin malphur when :lfg:

worn zinc
weary adder
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What if the Bow was made by combining the second letter of the alphabet with the sound of pain? :0 could destiny rising have written peak lore just now?

worn zinc
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Tbh it’s kinda odd Estella and Umeko have the same weapon combos as other characters

weary adder
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(Second letter of alphabet) B (sound of pain) ow

junior temple
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🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷

weary adder
worn zinc
weary adder
worn zinc
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Poor rocket launchers being relegated to one of the least used characters in the game

weary adder
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If she had any gun besides the grenade launcher, ppl would play her more

worn zinc
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Ikora without her shotgun feels wrong

weary adder
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Like imagine having to reload each shot for both weapons, it gets annoying

worn zinc
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personally i would've given Estella Bow/LMG and Umeko HC/Sniper

cunning bison
worn zinc
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this is the dumbest requirement for a diary entry

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weary adder
astral venture
astral venture
unkempt steeple
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Is there any Xuan Wei's appearance in the story?

karmic zodiac
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After the main campaign

exotic vine
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The ability

honest shell
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Is Estela the strongest guardian we have in the story rn lore wise being she has 2 forms of abilities/powers?

proper terrace
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Even though this is a alternate timeline prequel Osiris eventually goes through the vex portal and discovers they found a way to exist in every timeline which might connect it all?

ancient rune
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I suppose its as connected to the whole as canonically possible since alternate timelines already exists in Destiny

tawdry tree
boreal pendant
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Did we hear what Estela's wish was in her character quest??

versed iris
wide zodiac
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What? how? Why?

versed iris
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Timeline shenanigans is the best explanation. The letter from canon Osiris is written right before he enters the Infinite Forest.

white radish
versed iris
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Drifter needs a hobby that isn’t trying to get shot in the face

misty plinth
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Or just a new voice actor 😛

wide zodiac
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Ok so I've only done the first quest of it so far but HOLY COW ESTELLA'S CHARACTER QUEST IS PURE FIRE

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We ||Actualy fight a Ahamkara. Well,. Kind of||

karmic zodiac
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Remember there's a timeliness where our D1/D2 guardian dies there Final death. That eulogy by Saint 14.... which is a different timeline Saint 14.... oh no, I've gone cross-eyed thinking about it haha 😆

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So anyting is possible

strange frigate
wide zodiac
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Also, been a while since I hated a destiny character this much. Everyone talking about hating on Kyle but this ||wish dragon|| is far more vile

tawdry tree
wide zodiac
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Worse, he almost got wished to death

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Because Apparently wolf is a idiot who didn't learn from the FIRST time he made a wish in Veridia

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Wolf, buddy, I like you but if you hear ANY voice asking what you wish for in the red sea rift tell them to bugger off

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AND NOT IN A SMART "I WISH FOR YOU TO BUGGER OFF" WAY EITEHER JUST TELL THEM TO

tawdry tree
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Hunter's keep trying to speedrun death

strange frigate
wide zodiac
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Yeah it's like:

Kyle/Balder: I regret all of my life choices and am completely and utterly sorry for it all
Wish Dragon: I wish for you to die

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Guess which one I'm likely to dislike more

strange frigate
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Hmm easy! Buhr!

wide zodiac
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Ok to be fair Buhr is kinda a jerk

strange frigate
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Nah the dragon uuuh name kaldu kaido tera... Something something

worn zinc
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Estela’s entire story is “and then it gets worse for her”

wide zodiac
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I mean, I'm not the only one who absolutely thinks the wish dragon that messed her up is the same one she's using a relic, right

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I mean, it's kinda such a obvious twist that I'll be more surprised if it's NOT and it's actualy being helpful

strange frigate
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I actually hope its riven

worn zinc
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Begs the question of how did she get her hands on Ahamkara bones before her death

wide zodiac
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I'm not sure she did. I'd wager a small amount of glimmer on her would be mother hunting a deer or something, findintg a weird bone and going "Keeping that"

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Then either the next day or even months later, Young E makes a wish nearby and then fire.

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An absolute happenstance leading to a tragedy.

worn zinc
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She was revived with it

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wide zodiac
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...Either that or it has something to do with a nearby village worshipping a dragon like the daughter of spring outfit suggests

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Well, other guess then. Fallen attack dragon worship village. E grabs bone to keep it from Fallen sacrilge (good call, honestly but for wrong reasons). Then then get shot trying to escape the fallen attack on the house.

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Fallen completely ignore the bone when looting her, either because they know what it is from old eliskni legends and want no part of it, or they just see a funni bone and go "Ok but the leather's more useful and I can only carry so much"

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X time later, her Ghost shows up.

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It gets excited having found their Lightbearer, completely misses the bone, casts rez, the rest is history.

weary adder
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Are there furry worshippers too? I‘d join them

zinc pasture
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Wait so her bone thing is from an ahamkara?

karmic zodiac
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@zinc pasture yep

zinc pasture
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Ok so what did she wish?

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Did she wish for something like "damn it's cold, wish it was hotter round here" summoning a Fallen attack?

weary adder
zinc pasture
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Wait I just realized, this means Estella is rocking an exotic arm guards

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She's wearing the bones of an ahamkara for armor, and the two I know available in D2 are exotics!

tawdry tree
weary adder
# tawdry tree There is zero point in having any fur suit

Different sentimental values will always clash since they are personalized and linked to individuals rather than a group, therefore your deduction that my idea may be pointless will have no effect or consequence on my current beliefs.

zinc pasture
weary adder
tawdry tree
zinc pasture
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Wonder what'll happen if I wish for something huge, like for the Traveller to blow uo or something

tawdry tree
zinc pasture
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Well duh, that an obvious consequence

weary adder
tawdry tree
zinc pasture
weary adder
zinc pasture
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Whyyyy?

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You could wish for the ACTUAL thing tho?

weary adder
karmic zodiac
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@zinc pasture ahamkara armour dates from Destiny 1. And most are in destiny 2

zinc pasture
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Don't remember D1 exotics in all honesty

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Was a f2p while playing it, so my best item was the Strangers Rifle

weary adder
zinc pasture
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???

tawdry tree
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We are dealing with aliens who have never seen a furry

weary adder
tawdry tree
weary adder
tawdry tree
weary adder
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weary adder
rotund ingot
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the sword logic IS furry loving logic. the hive believe that love and death are the same thing. when they kill a furry, they're expressing the purest form of love possible

weary adder
tawdry tree
rotund ingot
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nah they just kill the people they hate too, murder's kinda their solution to everything. suicide is extremely against the sword logic since it's a self-admission you don't have the strength to survive

weary adder
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Sounds like a dog with rabies

rotund ingot
# weary adder So now love, death and hate are the same, doesn’t that mean they have no emotion...

they can still feel emotions, they're just 100% utterly convinced that the sword logic is the right and only way


Sorrow, because we have killed so much (eighteen species this century alone), and joy for the same reason. Joy that we have put down these blights. Scoured them away and left the universe clean, ready to move towards its final shape. We are a wind of progress. Ripping parasites from the material world — for if they were not parasites, we would be unable to kill them, and they would still exist.

And what is that final shape? It is a fire without fuel, burning forever, killing death, asking a question that is its own answer, entirely itself. That is what we must become.

My worm grows fat and hungry. I feed it with whole worlds. My astronomers tell me they can sense the Deep Itself, and that we are conquering our way towards it.

I think joy and sorrow will be the same thing soon. Like love and death. ``` - oryx
weary adder
rotund ingot
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he kills some bird people in another lore card

weary adder
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You mean indigenous people? He could be American

tawdry tree
rotund ingot
# 

On the sixth pace, Oryx speaks, saying, listen to me, Emperor Raven, and I will describe to you the Last True Shape, which is written on my tablet. And he puts out his fist, full of black fire, and he swallows up the Emperor Raven with a wound.

Aiat! Only Oryx knows this power, the power to take.

On the seventh pace, the Perfect Raven comes out of Oryx’s wound, and she spreads her wings across Taishibeth. Never again is a Taishibethi child born. She is perfect, she enacts the will of Oryx.

On the eighth pace, the Tai say, listen, you are spoilers, you are sphincters and excreta, you rot, why do you kill? We made silver orbitals and golden star webs. We hatched eggs. We had a good thing. Our clothes were nice, our food was famous. With one of her feathers our Emperor could have tickled the gods.

On the ninth pace, Oryx says, this is the only god, this ability to dictate what will and will not exist, this power to go on existing. This is your god. It is never ticklish.

On the tenth pace the Taishibethi are extinct.```
worn zinc
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damn Estela's quest is actually so peak

storm coral
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I wonder what happens after the quest?

weary adder
tawdry tree
fringe edge
weary adder
strange frigate
cunning bison
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refresh my memory but im some what still getting to know the whole lore behind destiny( missed a few dlcs on destiny 2 before coming back like taken king etc) whats sword logic?

wide zodiac
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Ok Estella's quest was actualy really bleeding good. And good on wolf for smashing that thing to bits and taking on a curse

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Also, if you want furries in game sieg, simply wish for it. I'm sure it won't backfire, Oh Wisher Mine...

turbid elbow
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Honestly, I don't play the destiny games anymore, but Hive lore was fascinating about two years ago. I dug in deep, and that stuff was fun to read

wide zodiac
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Yeah, Sword Logic is basicaly the beleif that "You are the strongest being to exist and most prove your right to exist by killing everything else"

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Somehow, the hive have actualy made that a tangiable rule that gives them power.

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Thing is, it's a (heh) double edged sword. If you get killed instead...

cunning bison
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ok thanks

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makes sense

wintry coyote
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considering at a point the worms will have nothing left to feed on, as Rhulk intended

hot pivot
grim path
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Stlil love how much interaction all the lightbearers and ghosts have , so much more when you compare it to the main games lol

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weary adder
# lament chasm In D1 and 2 the ghost does all the talking and it gets annoying sometimes :\

But D1 and D2 were a role play, not a gacha. It’s understandable that your created and self built character lacks emotional depth (since it is you who kind of has to fill that imaginary hole), but in this case this wouldn’t work since right now the characters are the „merchandise“ and therefore required to have personality, quirks, background etc. for example would you be interested in pulling (and paying) for characters if they were just like a blank page but with abilities?

grim path
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we could of still had more interactions with other ghosts though, wasnt till later that started to happen

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karmic zodiac
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@grim path I miss Dinklebot ghost.... said no one ever

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How bad is it when I'm starting to quote Crowther....

worn zinc
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ok so i managed to get the Spring Diary Entry for Estela, and it looks like it confirms why Estela had an ahamkara on her corpse

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||she was basically in a cult||

storm coral
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the question is what sort of (blank)?

torn dove
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Question what happened to the sand eaters valus I read the data mentioned he “vanished”

narrow pecan
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it's always a ||cult|| lmao

strange frigate
south saffron
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Hmmmm

worn zinc
subtle haven
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So weird question. Is Attal Indian? Like i know she SOUNDS French but like for some reason I see her I think Indian.

weary adder
wraith carbon
slow kiln
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Anyone know anything about the traveler and the sea of white ?

weary adder
slow kiln
jolly parrot
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The Speaker?

errant glacier
errant glacier
slow kiln
jolly parrot
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It's hard to know if it aligns with main line lore orif it's a new concept. Speakers perceive the "thoughts" of the Traveller as others did in the Golden Age. They see lucid dreams which they interpret it's possible the Sea of White does not exist as a real place

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There are other options, that it might relate to as well. A lake of Radiolaria AKA "Vex Milk" could be considered a Sea of White

weary adder
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Is there also a sea of furries in the lore? I‘d love to swim in a sea of furries

noble dawn
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Anyone know about Ning Fei's background?

jolly parrot
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Things that could be considered as a Sea of White from main line lore exist on both the Moon which is haunted or within the Dreaming City of the Distributary which is where the Awoken lived or rather some still do

noble dawn
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Love Ning Fei so much as a character.

jolly parrot
slow kiln
jolly parrot
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I haven't done that much of his back story beyond the first few quests with him being Sun Wukong'ed like Journey to the West

slow kiln
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Do we know how the exotics are made or where they're coming from ?

worn zinc
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Jotunn has the fireteam trying to grind a black armory forge in one timeline lol

restive solar
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Hey yall!

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I notice somthing a bit odd. I found the trap the Traveler was in the 'Red War' campain. Curious on why its here in DR? Anyone got any lore on it?

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(You gotta check the bounty tab. I cant send photos but it is there)

worn zinc
restive solar
jolly parrot
twin terrace
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Estela had a great story tbh

misty plinth
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All the side characters had decent stories so far 😄

worn zinc
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Kabr's was a bit disappointing imo

rustic elk
# slow kiln Do we know how the exotics are made or where they're coming from ?

Weapons are classified as exotic for a variety of reasons in Destiny, but typically fall into a few camps

Unusual Construction (Weapons of extremely high build quality or that use extremely rare/exotic materials)

Unusual Ownership (“Banned” Weapons, Enemy’s Weapons, One of a kind designs (prior to replication via engram))

Unusual Functionality (Weapons made with extremely atypical functionalities or use cases, often featuring golden age “gimmick” guns, or top of the line Haven Era constructions, or otherwise weapons with supernatural/superscientific abilities)

misty plinth
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Dont play Kabr or Ikora ... no grab

nocturne oar
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Where is the shaxxs 🙁

errant glacier
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Oh, he'll be around as a 5 star at some point, I'm sure.

errant glacier
# worn zinc Kabr's was a bit disappointing imo

I certainly agree, though Praedyth getting a mention at the end did make me smile. I'd be very interested to see the Rising take on him, since Kabr is completely different to how I envisioned him in the main timeline.

eager locust
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At the current point in Destiny Rising, is it possible that Emperor Calus has already been overthrown by the Midnight Coup?

strange frigate
tawdry tree
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Is it possible for us to make our own relics using radiancite?

strange frigate
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Thats hmm probably not?

tawdry tree
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They can channel the light, so I thought it would be cool for a future character to have their relic be made from it

rugged kite
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So what is this is it a dif time line or something or before the games idk im new to the game

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Got it cuz cant play d2 so got it

eager locust
# strange frigate No calus isnt Even born

I remember that the Cabal entries in the in-game lore mention the Emperor and military-political leaders issuing orders from Torobatl. This is interesting, because the Cabal Empire only moved its capital to Torobatl after Calus ascended to the throne.

errant glacier
strange frigate
errant glacier
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Could just as easily say that there's no proof it isn't Calus 😛

strange frigate
errant glacier
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That's actually incorrect. Per the lore 'An Invitation' from Destiny 2, Cabal do live for thousands of years.

strange frigate
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Oh?

errant glacier
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They slowly ossify over centuries unless maintained, but are otherwise nearly immortal in the right conditions.

Calus himself states he's seen more than a thousand years of war in the empire.

strange frigate
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Huh damn they older than i thought

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Well if thats the case than yeah rising could be after his exile

wide zodiac
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The phrase "Fear an old man in a professuion where people die young" really DOES apply to the Cabal and their military huh

strange frigate
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I cant wait to kill that wish dragon

wide zodiac
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If you are in it for the fight, the coolest fight in that questline already happened on quest one.

If you are in it for the plot and feels, the best is yet to come

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And yeah, Zelphachad is kinda a jerk

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All my homies hate Zelphachad

errant glacier
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Real

strange frigate
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This is what i do to her

wide zodiac
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Also, I have no lore based or concrete proof that it's not unusual for a Ahamkara to feed twice on one wish, but I'm 95% sure that makes her a glutton among her kind too

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At least I'm interpreting that bit as her being a glultton even among Ahamkara

strange frigate
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Seems accurate

gaunt vault
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Hi

errant glacier
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Hi!

valid gate
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Does the lore here tie heavy into the games? Or is it more standalone?

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I may need to brush up on 1 and 2.

astral venture
errant glacier
valid gate
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Ok cool, so we aren't talking any kind of direct prequel. I habe started to dabble in the lore but I was damn D1 was forever ago and im sure I dont remember much. So its good to know I can enjoy this for what it is.

astral venture
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I recently was doing Kabr's character Quest so far any kind of fumbled it but then again Kevarrh came at the wrong timing also the ending of makes me feel sorry for the guy knowing what's going to happen to him and the two others

dawn dove
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seeing as his fireteams VoG run takes place around the forming and mass migration to the last city after the dark age im pretty sure (Depends on the weird time shenanigans VoG has)

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i always envisioned him as this stoic serious dude

wide zodiac
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I think he probably becomes stoic and serious after a lot of vex related trauma

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Which, well, hasn't happened yet.

dawn dove
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he seems very young and eager to prove himself with adventures and whatnot, maybe something happens pre VoG to get him like that

bright pier
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I love Kabr, he's my 2nd main. Not a fan of the relentless need for validation but playing him is fun. lol

astral venture
bright pier
astral venture
bright pier
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im so glad they did these stories and play to unlock more, etc etc.

bright pier
astral venture
bright pier
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lol. it was good but definitely not what i enjoyed at all. lol. Not into those kinds of stories. but it was good for what it was. I didn't skip anything.

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The voice surprised me, but the story made more sense. Lol. Her voice makes Gwen an extrovert to me now, haha

dawn dove
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hope they do a fight with a full reveal like in witch queen

bright pier
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i dont want to spoil anything, but estela's story is depressing and (not quite a spoiler but a serious matter in real-world) ||suicidal-themed||, but an amazing and beautiful environment place.

bright pier
dawn dove
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rn i feel like its estela, tan - 2 and then gwynn in terms of character stories

valid gate
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I've been putting off character stories in order to collect things (I cant help it lol) sounds like I should really knock some out.

karmic zodiac
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I do the character stories when I run out of pinnacle energy. Plus I love Lore

valid gate
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Oh that's a good idea, fill in the gaps.

worn zinc
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i absolutely adore how Estela's story talks about the mental part of being effectively a walking corpse

humble tiger
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We haven't met all the iron lords yet no? We haven't met or heard about Efrideet yet have we??

winter elm
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hmm

humble tiger
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I loved Efrideet's Spear from Destiny 1.

worn zinc
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most of the iron lords haven't been seen yet in Rising

humble tiger
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We know Fellwinter from Fellwinters peak but still not much about them either

worn zinc
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considering there's 17 known Iron Lords

humble tiger
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Hopefully they forge their weapons in destiny rising. Would be cool to play with Fellwinter sniper cough sorry Fellwinters Lie or Jolder's Hammer. (Also disappointed that Jolder doesn't use Heavy Machineguns but a sword.)

wide zodiac
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I mean, you just said you wanted Jolder's Hammer. Guess what existing weapon type would best fit a hammerish weapon.

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Oh right you mean the Machine Gun

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Honestly I always took it as though it wasn't their actual weapons but named after them

humble tiger
scenic tartan
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can u switch ur main char appearance if u messed up at the start?

weary adder
scenic tartan
weary adder
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Oh, I consider this trans inclusitvity

median mesa
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I want to know this too ^^

dawn dove
mint acorn
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So, I don't have estela to play the full story quest yet but estela and her relic mentioned something at the end of the first mission that caught my interest...
Estela: "I will slay the ahamkara that granted my wish"
Her relic: "(I forgot the first part of this line) o' wielder mine"
Is it possible to predict despite not knowing anything else that the ahamkara that granted whatever wish estela had, was actually her relic?

fading marten
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Salve 🙌🏼🙏🏼

storm coral
mint acorn
storm coral
mint acorn
zinc pasture
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Question, what are some Handcannons that would be fine to have in Rising lorewise?

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I know that Ace, Thorn, and The Last Word won't be in Rising because the two owners are probably way beyond Risings time

woeful raven
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there are multiple exotics already that “shouldn’t” be in rising. their lore implies pretty directly they’ve been stolen from different points in time for unknown reasons

last cave
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estela is great

zinc pasture
limber seal
woeful raven
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i dont think we know. just that the info on the guns has stories about fireteams stealing the weapons

limber seal
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Ahhhh

lean pagoda
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since Ikora is in this game, can we safely say it's the same "world/universe" as the main game? if yes, is this a prequel?

prime cave
lean pagoda
strange frigate
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... I finished estel story and is that it wheres the rest? What am i supposed to do now wait until november for act 2?

prime cave
strange frigate
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The entire

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dawn dove
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i havent seen any people mention gwynns character story at all, is it as good as estela's or tans?