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basically you pay for 'progression'. More access to currencies and resources that you use to push endgame
you can lol
All heroes come for free but have 6 tiers
its just that you need patience
Each tier unlocks more potential out of the hero
i dont want other characters
why dont they release this game on pc i play through emulator
Prob dont have PC or console rights, only mobile and an emulator is a loophole
That's fine, it's only jumps setting them apart and titan jumps need a rework anyways
licensing issues
They're only good on sword characters for flying, otherwise they don't have the glide capability nor the aerial control
I feel it needs a bit more of a forward thrust
usually the typical netease title thats published by them has them released on pc/ps5/xbox series and optionally mobile
Their one benefit is recharging quickly, but that's useless for everyone that doesn't have a sword
Tbf I fight in the air longest with jolder
It works for sword play a lot
And if your set up with guarding
Yeah bc swords stall them midair and let it recharge
Sword blocks should covert into overshield
That's why I said it's useless for people without swords
Reduce damage convert portion into overshield
Is the end of service in november real or fake?
What ever converted takes a portion of sword energy
Fake
Fake
Imo EOS would be announced this time next year if the whole thing fails the two major annual update they already have planned
Iām pretty sure they have the new area done
fake
Maybe in like 2029
i mean seeing games like tower of fantasy currently only raking in 300k a month, i agree
If next season donāt start with a titan I have to wait until the next banner preview
maybe even 2030/2031
Global server merge when
I think we get Titan next banner then that beekeeper
I wanna play with my emea homies
What yall thinking
That im tired of pulling new dudes
Iām cool with a chick
So long itās that mora ?
The HH race chick
I wouldnāt mind one of those
But I want solar titan
Donāt care what it is
I dont need Tariq only pulled him to have him. Jaren with Octant does spread already
Tbf heās really good if you aināt got jaren
Spread rapid impact basically
If you do easily skip
You dont wanna see my HH and Efri power levels š¤£
Efri is T1, ask me about that accident
efriballs
Had pity for gwynn in 7 pulls, hit 10pull on wrong banner
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Thatās my power levels lol
Fire!
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We got the bad LC map rotation for this event
CN got all the shortcut maps š¤£
Also we must have skill level issue her
Because why is CN clearing higher expanses with other heroes
Do 2:40 now
This ones for the efri's that didnt make it past 92 rapid. š
2:39 and Iām impressed
They got skills and dedication
They test and know builds
Their tooltips arnt badly translated š¤£
Uhh doomposters and casuals
whats bad is i was just warming up. got so bored with the stage i was stuck on i restarted it š i wanna try other builds
Embarrassing tbh
The Awoken
Thatās it!
Also I donāt think players quite understand the power of this at a full proc
Itās not easy to pull off but if you understand that itās a particular simple sequence it does silly damage
But you gotta be aware to proc the 200% itās not really one of those brain dead procs
Hit the same target 4 times to get that 200% dmg
I really want to try with that maximum ability damage build
You only get 2 stores
You have to time the combo Howl howl tag reset tag howl howl
Howl combo super howl combo
2nd oneās harder to proc without the arc set up since rate of fire
With the Bp donāt build his meter quickly
Light echos work good on him?
Amazing
always good to see another light echos enthusiast ā¤ļøāš„
Also melee one works for his unlimited overshield, but Iām more light echos since I like the ability damage burst
So long your shooting and hitting things your always gonna have overshield
Same for jolder
Its so flexible. 12% weapon dmg, or 12% dr, or 12% movement speed.
All boosting ability.
Itās an all booster
Echo Especially if your wanting damage
Counter is dmg/survial
melee one is utility
i tried counter but i didnt like that it was only once every second at best, i did better with light echos tbh
Iāve seen that you solo for gems @twilit thistle how consistent are drops and worth it?
Only found myself using it for a little more survival dealing with impact shink doms
with the 3x claim its worth it but @signal spade broke me of the habit, its way faster with a group. About 1-2 hours will get u more than enough with 3x claims
Iāve got a
Few
Stores and I didnāt even think of thatā¦
I should have used them on my climb upā¦..
Well youāve given me somewhere to use them I guess since they get recycled end of seasonā¦.
Overclocked works too, just not as quick. I save those specifically for that now that i know. its probably doable with the 2x claims too ngl.
per i have not seen an instance of a gem having more than 5%, unless it is split between duplicates. So the current known max of a stat would be 10% total on a gem. That being said, you wont get that much. I bet they dissapear at the end of the season anyways
im assuming we will get refunded like last time, and be ascending our chars
Why would you solo if u can clear on 3-4 mins in a fireteam unless youāre sadomasochist lol
If you canāt find a team and you can clear consistently like a LC why not
Struggles on emea to find a fireteam
Language barriers play a big part in that struggle from my observations.
Tbf you can in most cases since you always get a period where your building super without fighting
Always a transition phase
And once you get your two stock rotation in your good
eh fair enough
Then itās just really about when to use stock a little Like HH and salvo?
Well itās easier if you have a pack and usually play with the same people weekly
Just hold hands with 2 others and do yours activities together lol, not hard to find 2 people to play weekly
I do Iām on stage 18? I think but if say stage 11 was simple enough for me to clean up Iād do it on a bored one
Also tbf I do like that solo competition feeling at that scale
my issue still quite persist with ssb
wolf has better uptime but you need his s1 to deal damage, tariq does more damage but worse super grenade uptime, no inbetween
Yeah also Tariq donāt lean on it to much
Thereās a channel ingame called cordon 11+ that was created for people to form squads to farm 11 or push higher stages
It used to be more active before but itās there, better than nothing
Once he has his stock itās very optional because his super isnāt effected
the solution? give kabr the resolute an lfr or scout that takes super energy as super bullets or something
Emea
Na
I was hoping thatās how they changed sym lol
I hate how syn works
For me itās the switch on the controller
Rip then, wait for merge lol
Id rather see actual fixes to the game causing the player drops than a merge. mainly more content, and that content being appealing.
tof made a more āglobalā server, it didnt fix anything
I want shifting gates
I donāt care if itās pc game pad or thumbs
Better than bots
I think shifting gates is gone, cuz we have lost alot of players. As it is, we gotta let go. It can be changed into something else tho, i have thought about that.
3v3 arena and we good
Its probably the top pick of mine for activites that could be updated to make the game more appealing, just not thinking about having it as an 18 person activity like it was, even tho half of them were bots.
if anything I would use its maps for iron bar for one, and i would also merge both. Doing so in a way that iron bar takes the place of shifting gates on the weekend. (with new maps, and it counts for bounties.)
Another would be just getting it competitive again. Not sure how to do that, other than making it more challenging to climb
The zones would be really bad for Control ngl, only way I could see it maybe working is some sort of long-form defense game mode like rift
Only way anything can get competitive at this point is a boost in playerbase
I did not realise the power for endless went up with each phase, im sure stage 60 wasn't 114k before, so now I can't get the endless seal as easily :/
Expanse's power requirement doesn't change with phases
Expanse and cordon are basically the only two that don't
I swear it wasn't this hard before lmao
its quite overpowered but its ok
you can bruteforce it because you dont need to care getting a good time because the time requirements are removed
wait really?
ye
I thought you still got wiped after the double damage
you do
yeah but you dont need to complete said 10 stages within a certain amount of time anymore
Where the heck has the tower defense mode been?! Netease pulling a bungie and removing fun content for the fun of it
yea that and crota left with S4 release
Calamity was better than cordon too.
Bungie probably has it in the contract to force netease to sunset anything positively received.
Speed running heroic strikes 
cordon is growing on me but I think the rewards leaving at the end of the season is a bit weird
first temp emblem in any destiny game
The red emblem might be perma but they haven't shown how to get it yet
Red emblem kinda sick if we can get it and keep it
yea that one seems to be perma but wish they showed the reqs for it
doing my 11+ every cycle but would like to not be surprised by some random req that I havent been meeting
I'm hoping it's a like phase 10 cordon event for the lunatics that max the outer ring
My main gripe is the small pool of players within a given stage grouping and the bots donāt participate. Needing a piercing and spread shinka pop solo is annoying. The bot sporting the shinka pop different than yours should be moderately helpful
I mean, calamity was still a team thing
in order to push to the higher ranks
But the matchmaking pools werenāt split between 2 stage grouping if I remember correctly, right?
2 stage grouping as in the 2 strikes available?
no but finding a group to run for the higher stages would still be a thing to get more of the rewards
so I dont see how that is the reason you like calamity over cordon
Like with cordon, if youāre on stage 7 youāre looking for players on the same stage +/- 1 making your potential random pool smaller.
Calamity was match made between all players on a given strike
I mean, yea but its the same thing in terms of if you were higher than someone, you just run them up to your rank and push from there
also cordon gives more leaves
Starting late in cordon just put me behind the 8ball. Didnāt experience the matchmaking problem with calamity till later on in the process.
True
this is an opinion from someone how makes a group so I cant definitely say your wrong in terms of matchmaking
but I think they are both modes that encourage group play to progress forwards
so I dont see the matchmaking here as the reason one mode is better than the other imo
Yeah, thatās definitely skewing my outlook since my core group was around during last season but bailed shortly into this one having me work through randoms more than before
I would say that is more the reason for your bias
Can use invisible walls, or put in work. I always think of ice field. Rlly just preventing the divided player base by merging them so that both are united. Grinding on weekends is probably why so many ppl complained about long q times to begin with.
new cordon encourages helping which i dont mind but it burns you out a lot when you have a team pushing dire while needing to help low levels
but thats my opinion only
I mean, at least there is no attempts per day
if you did want to push and help at the same time
true
The best was when cordon and calamity both ran, more opportunity and variety to grind incandescent clusters
I need them to keep putting photons in LC events
this one not offering any is wack
atp i have cat band 01 and did the first 3 cat boosts of an exotic but i cant get it past boost 4 also get it to cat band 02
which is like annoying as hell
But then how would they pump those black market sales?!
3 bounties and 20 core sales a week gets you to roughly 21k tokens so atleast 1 a week you could get f2p.
But yeah they gotta have more ways to reliably earn them outside of that
I mean they could just up the drop chance a tad bit
or have them boosted for the weekly 48 cores
They should have a pity system of some sort where your drop chance increases slightly each time you donāt get it to drop till youāre guaranteed a drop after so many campaign runs. Atleast for a single photon a week
What they need to do is stop gatekeeping the gems to 11
If run lower versions all day to help ppl if the gems dropped
Id
yeah lmao
lol
Why do you hate that? Sounds good
because you need to wait until its a good enc
menace above is like 4~6 min per run
if you have a good team
Was there ever any official word on why bulwark ops was removed and if/when itāll return?
nope
nah
if you get the ghost and already have it you get 4.8k bright dust (or 3.6 I forgot)
i thought it was 2680
Tbh Isaakis the only one worthy farming, itās 3min per run with a premade fireteam
3:20 to be exact
that's if ppl know the hh drone tech
otherwise menace is significantly more consistent
and less sweaty
isaskis is pretty much a sub 4 if people know how to one phase
Anything without a boss is more consistent with matchmaking. Todays in na was the best imo for matchmaking bc top players dont gotta worry. Consistency for solo > the ppl who do 0.000001% boss dmg and having to go 10 phases, or just failing altogether numerous times.
i got tired of it ngl lol its just a good farm for mats to upgrade mods. It can drop adept mods, but 98% of the time it wont.
ok what if you dont have a t6 fully built perfect char? its unrealistic if you ask me
š„ŗ u better have a t6 fully built ikora or ill cry balls
You can always run umeko which is a f2p character and the 2nd most important on Isaakis
nah 1st most important these days, for every 10 matches I fill in with umeko for 9 of them, the other is hh.
Me and my bud were doing carries yday with HH and umeko doing 70% dmg, the rest can be all t0
yes but randoms sometimes will carry the crappiest loadoat and even a t6 hh and t6 umeko wont cut it
The randoms i usually see doin it š
Yea If they mess up inside, but usually out of 4 randoms at least 1 know what to do lol
otherwise its quite hard to one phase it im ngl
Its not worth it, trust. Youll never get the mod u need, and u will get 1000 you dont.
i got the mod i want lol i just need mobius
wish i could say the same, all it drops for me is random stuff i dont want or low quality stuff. Usually both.
I could run the one i want at a lower power, but this is useless when I need it for the expanse. Im like 2k under power, so that's going to be an issue.
10% is nothing at that point.
The one I want is the double precision bonus which I got to drop at 11%
ye i got that one at 10%
Trying to drop the 13% one but that seems very rare
Never seen someone with that
Iāve dropped 5 of that one, 3 10% and 2 11% š
Cuz they use weights for the loot, i have too much evidence of that. Its not always just rng
iirc i crashed out about 24 hours ago right? š¤
What u mean?
I think we should return to the old drop system where it starts at 1.5% and drops to 0% over the next 5 runs /s
I 100% agree that would be so funny
I still have no idea what they were thinking doing that
Bc it didn't used to be like that, that was an active change
Evidently nobody thought that one through
I could kind of understand if they lowered the odds after getting the item
I wouldn't like it, but I'd at least understand it
But they just made it lower no matter what
Itās looks like that now tbh, but more like 1 1.5% and 20 0%
To me it feels like it is based on keeping you from getting too far ahead, and ensuring those who are behind get an equal chance.
I forgot how to change my disc pfp someone please help š
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I found it Ty tho
Spent all day trying to get my flaming roomba build going on umeko. Exactly 24 hours after i crashed out, first attempt it gave it to me. (Yes @balmy raft i know it was slow. Didnt even have boxer for the first boss)
(The reason i say its also connected, is bc of this)
You can see them getting progressively better here. Highest was +50 power for that (i did 50)
And the nail in the coffin,
Thats not 2% @thorny frost
It really feels like the drop rate has been better then it is stated. I just have figured odds/programming was in my favor.
Not a scope tho :/ sad day.
Btw, I got this one yesterday, ranked it up a little just to do some tests. I was sad when the extra bullets from misfortune confetti didnāt seem to trigger it (or else I got unlucky). But if the extra bullet kills an enemy it does trigger the final blow effects, and has an interesting interaction with Syncopation. The shots donāt count for the amount to trigger, but if you get an extra bullet at shot 3 the extra bullet will get the syncopating buff, and so will your next bullet.
why does damage decrease
It might have been for some sort of balancing. I would hope they did damage number tests when making abilities. It could be that 75% mag, 30% damage might have been a bit higher then their metrics wanted, but 50% mag and 25% damage was a little to low for a stage 1. But that is just a guess. In reality as of right now it is on one weapon and happens to be the bis for us so I personally never saw it as an issue XD
Cuz they didnāt ask @indigo solar to test it and do qc checks
Balance, same as lv5 annihilation vector dropping from 75% damage to 65%, and the enhancement for some perk (I forget which) decreasing the strength of the damage boost but increasing the max number of stacks
It is probably one of the best perks for helping to get rid of rapid fire shinkas due to the 75% mag (for primary rapid fire weapon). Reloading mid shinka break is so much time wasted.
Okay so regarding my attempts at the third part of Elivagar, I've switched to using Efrideet after I managed to get her power level high enough, she seems to be a better fit for this mission than Wolf, still encountering some problems though, primarily my own system is severely prone to glitching and lagging so much so that I end up being unable to move or react properly, though most of the time the other players are using underleveled characters, in my most recent attempt one player was playing as Tan-2 at 52k power level
higher rate of fire but lower damage is oof
gonna need a lot of mag
š¤ does misfortune work alongside it? Sounds like itād be fun in chaos. Flame gift and poison gift
Do keep in mind that the power scaling from phases is on an individual basis, not globally set for the instance so it's possible they're not actually under light if they're on a lower phase
Yeah don't use it for a damage perk, use it as anti shinka
It's honestly the reload speed nerf that hurts more
Somebody is always freaking out in chat about that when there is a low power person in a raid. Although chances are they are going to be worthless and covered in Blues and no exotic
Regardless the main problem seems to be lag as I keep getting tripped up easily because of it, I think I need a new phone in all honesty
Yea misfortune still triggers. So you in theory can get 3 extra bullets slightly weaker from misfortune with the 30% chance of an extra shrapenel from the perks.
Meant 3 not 4 extra bullets
Do you have your graphics set to minimum?
If they are freaking out itās a skill issue, I look at it as a challenge, and a reason to push myself harder. They clearly need the reward at the end.
I don't even know how to adjust graphics, what does that do?
It might just be that your phone isn't powerful enough to run the game at the default settings. Going to settings and just turn the graphics down to low or performance or whatever it might be called
Settings > Audio and Graphics > Standard Rendering Quality
Hive machine gun poisoning flamethrower Estela in chaos when
ok so i shouldnt use it
I will check
Probably not yeah
Okay so I set set rendering quality to standard, should I do anything else?
That's basically all you can do
You can turn down frame rate too if you really want
I'm cooked
Hopefully that helps. When I tried to play it on a super old ipad, I had a lot of teleporting players until I turned the graphics down
The frame rate is already at standard, my phone doesn't support the other options
Okay lowering frame rate and rendering quality didn't do anything, the system still lags out which trips me up every time
Yeah I figured that out quickly when a 30k wolf did so much better than 1 of my kabar alter with 100k power. I swear some people are trash even at high levels lol
Sadly I donāt have an adept for time marches on with fraternity so I wasnāt able to test. But using the same second perk (basically useless as I am not killing anything), the polymer chamber did come out ahead still. I used one slam at the beginning of the test to activate her weapon mastery (figured it would give fraternity an edge due to stronger hits less bullets tho) and just held down the fire button after that. Fraternity got 2.6 mill damage, while Polymer chamber came out with 2.8 mill damage.
In all reality they are balanced pretty close, if using holder I would probably end up using Polymer chamber due to her reloading weapons with slam and it working better on shinkas anyways.
guys she said no....
I said whereās the t6 Gwynn
I SPENT ALL MY MONEY AT BUCEES
THE BEVEAR GOT ME
š¤·š¼āāļø then the answer is no
i got beaver nuggets
1 in 100000?
Im washed, tired of all the immune and dmg reduction š blinds and knockbacks cherry on top
Every time you turn around gettin slopped
Wait till tomorrow, good lc comin back
Figured out why i can't shoot hc or sniper and why my shotty half misses, mobile data < wifi
Your options:
a, listen to Taniks-san, the GachaGirlā¬š„[IN]
B, die repeatedly
Listening dont fix the back to back javelins, 4 secs of blind and whatever the hell the immune is
Then bro always got a friend
Ye Iām done for this week, I just like doing labyrinth lc tbh
@indigo solar
I legit got hit by 3 spears by 3 diff efri at same time
:(
I like super oobed to oblivion
...I'm on data
Instructions unclear proceeding to frown in ib
Immune is efri's dodge
Also keeps her from taking a 1 shot shotty
And to get past it and kill the efrideet,
Tariq barrier annoy also, its like ok im fighting 1v2 and both bro take no dmg when almost dead and heal back š
No skill to find cover
Its a cooldown war
I switched over to Gallows again today due to Tariq
Hoping the explosions got through his barriers, it seemed to work⦠maybe?
Yeah the barrier is the worst
Wonder if a charged izi shot deals with Tariq š¤ but im retired from ib and Taniks-san, the GachaGirlā¬š„[IN] isnāt
Ikora like here is full overshield from nowhere
Like 1600 HP and makes projectile abilities (and even super) just disappear
youre never done with ib it slowly calls to you in your dreams
No animation either
Its no longer fastest gun in west, its now most immune in west
Fight fire with fire.
Maybe that accidental draw was meant to be.
No, i only did it that one game to keep knocking tanniks out of arena
You have done good.
It was griefing onlt
Maybe we will get more weapons that deal AOE damage or DoT to deal with Barriers⦠but that spear push is a little over kill, happy for warlock jump due to it.
Turns out that doesn't stop a lord streak btw
HEY SO I HAVE A QUESTION.
When you link your discord to your rising destiny accountāhow do you receive the Lumia leaves banner thingy after doing alat?šš„
Suprised u didnt post the fake roadmap on reddit ngl
It's already there, I saw it earlier
what am i needing to do? beat stage 20 on all 4?
š
no it should let u upgrade now
I feel silly, where do i click to upgrade?
should show green somewhere on the phase icon
I learned today to check my artifacts before i transfer. I tried two, both of them attempted to transfer health, failing to transfer what i wanted. Upon closer inspection, 100% of the artifacts shown have health on them.
lc=lc. event is just a good source of bright dust
you should already b able to get the next phase
on the left
Artifact build crafting could have been similar to armour sets in d2 before they decided to give us a shell of the former artifact system
You could only equip one exotic for both the defense artifacts and offense artifacts
Here are some more images for those curious
The alpha artifact system was more interesting than the current one we got
Characters could have been useful even when they are no longer meta
i'm wondering when we'll get bad juju, it was an event in the alpha
Decent chance of getting it in two weeks
so cool š
Btw @quasi parrot this is what I was busy doing the last game, which is why I went 3-2 lmao
should I avoid the weekly upgrade?
they better not reset emanare tbh. the resources needed to upgrade from upgrade level 3 to 10 is insane
It most likely will be reset though.. they just need to balance the mats requirement and they ll most likely do it.
People stacked way too much mats from S1 to S3 so they need a way remove all that from our inventory
yea i havent been grinding emanare at all until next week ig. they finally exhausted my resources lol
Y i had to farm some purple weapon mats yday and its pretty long considering we almost need 300/400 per node..
They need to double every drop tbh.. i dont see how a casual who join the game would want to farm all this and still be behind in the end
If they don't balance the requirements they will kill the player base with the farm
Yup, it's so bad it has me farming lotus in free roam for materials lol
0/3600 š progress
I don't understand their operating model if they would smile at destroying the player base
Speed run to EoS and move on to other games? What about the losses?
Good result tbf wd
are some of the season quests bugged?
Looks like
one of them says to collect 3 different characters in this season and iāve got 2 out of 3 but iāve got everyone already lol
Btw didnāt yours reset?
Mines back at 50 per chest
They can just fix the cost of Emanare anyway
ez
they dropped power from 99k to 95k lmao
they wont
NA didnāt reset yet
na week hasnt updated, but you can do the phase upgrade tho
Is the legendary campaign difficulty increasing every week or is it just me? Do I have to keep grinding and grinding just to stay at the same relative level now?
For the past few weeks I keep upgrading artifacts and weapons and I feel like I'm getting weaker not stronger
What phase are you currently at?
Phse 8. My emanare is not fully upgraded (thanks to those pesky incandescence clusters)
every week or every other week
reddit is going to love this 
looooooooooooooooool
what's adept 1
on the bright side all of my seasonal categories have hit 100% now I just need to wait for the payout to get the title
Just need to wait for next month for my 3rd settlement reward
how mad will netease be if I get 100% and then don't login until s5 because activities too high level
Not being able to complete the frontline key reward one is killing me
im never completing these chaos challenges
balls
What's the maximum for the emanare system this week?
23400
Still at 17
23600?

Iām at 23300 two nodes left
each node upgrade gives 50
oops replied to wrong message
O what's your ava from
wtf snowy tea listening to iceman
Itās just a character from some artist
he does commissions , I just took dat from his insta posts , liked it
Someone recommended it , so I had to listen to it , and it aināt bad
tbh its not my worst album of the year
in fact the 3 of them are just equally mid as in listenable at best
it's not arirang by bts atleast
Yea they r not dat good but wanted to see the hype ab it jus
I got Gwynn. I'm gonna grind for Concerto. I'm having fun with Destiny for the first time in years.
50 per upgrade
Welcome!
officially calling this week legacy week
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Thank you!
imagine the clusters dropped while I was grinding out weapon emblems
all I got was glimmer š
Like itās a resource farm but feels like some idle mode lol
Just give us SG with everyone able to Que up
At this point it donāt matter the input lol
How do you get good without a challenge anyways
I need something to do other than character progression constantly
need to make some sort of trials even if it's only cosmetics/titles you can get there
decals whatever, plenty of options
curious what's still locked here, will we get pets or some stuff like that eventually
last time that was posted on reddit ppl said ships
i hope we go to space at some point
ships would likely be in cosmetics imo
Oooooooo something like a Railjack mode would be sick
together with sparrows
But it would probably be like the ships in D2, if not just porting half of them directly over.
I would call me try hard but ngl the res amount for emanare lv up is beyond
Hiya!
I don't think I'm going full emanare no way
The mats aren't that hard to farm tbh, I just did legacy and morgran for like an hour each last week and had enough to max emanare
Now idk what the material requirements are going to be like to reach level 10 tho, if they stay the same per level then that'll be a ton of resources
Emanare is more painful for more casual players
Those are 2 h farming for mats you should be flooded with in any activity. Lots of us are playing since day one and huge stock pilled so we have currently not much trouble (excluding when emanare reset). Think about peps where starting later or do this game not as a second job like us
you don't need this high power anyway besides of expanse
Someone got his weekly exotic gems from store that disappeared from inventory ?
yeah I lost 4 chests
Same here
2 hours across a week is like 17 mins per day. They made the game more grindy to give people an incentive to play after removing pinnacle so if someone can't keep up with that then this probably isn't the right game for them
I'm pretty sure the ones from the store open automatically, did you check your gems?
Theoretically you are right but I can not agree š
Dawg I was done in 7 mins before. š
bring back pinnacle
Now unless I dump 2H daily, I have no way to catch up
jk they just need to add daily high value rewards
wdym the last 6 emanare requires 3 mobius/incandesence PER UPGRADE
2h daily is a huge overstatement lol, I play like 30 mins per day and very occasionally have 1 hour sessions to farm chaos and stuff
you need 126 mobius and 126 incandescence clusters for phase X upgrades
But you aren't hardstuck in Phase IV
also did i forgot something? yes
28 artifactual refactors per node , which means phase x upgrades require 1176 refactors
I have a feeling that level 3 is supposed to be the soft cap, if every upgrade after that requires 12 trifling inspiration then it's gonna be impossible to truly max out emanare
i have like 4k essence and havent played chaos for 2 weeks
because it is
Maybe we're just supposed to pick a couple of nodes
it's going higher than that
tbh i only play it whenever spike shell is around
no thats phase x
They moved a lot of the grind for beginning players it feels like. Sheafs are dropped more often and in more places, weapon mods are easy to get, while might not being able to be a 100% roll right away, and the mobius clusters are easier to get now. Incandescent clusters was increased significantly from before. Maxing an equip was lowered by at least 66% and reduced how long it took to grind matching sub stats.
In return they implemented a system that takes longer to max, but would give a ton less increase then building your ābasicā build for your unit.
look how much you need for fully upgrade the node
it's up to 10
phase 9: 18
phase 10: 126
i know lol
cant be bothered to touch that mode at all tbh
phase 9 is 3/3 or 3/10
phase 10 is for 4/10 to 10/10
I donāt think we are suppose to max every node, specially the last ones, to max.
for the hardcore hardcore it does
maybe because im so bored i just upgrade the most random bs
yum
Anyone had any luck completing this crazy, Legendary campaign event Adept 3 in 3m 30s. I am at 110k power and couldn't do it, this isn't do able for your casual player
no you need t6 mythics
jotunn is the best but i use the new solar fusion bc toaster does 0 damage
I've seen a Wolf get 3:30 last week but it's pretty much a T6 mythic check
this week's legendary campaign is easier tho i thought
actually you can do wolf easily now
Balls
you can get closer to 3 min or sub 3
that being said it requires perfect mods and perfect artis
wolfie balls balls
On the rapid fire stage I'm assuming
Yesssirrrr
no in spread
I need to level up my Wolf
THAT being said i think if arc impact is around you can do wolf much better
because vodnik is his current bis
you get the same damage as a full mag of sweet business per clip
chiaroscuro is better than inverted fury
now that content one hit kills any non-dr build
i tried it
oh u mean inverted guard š
thats with elemental/long ranged dr on the attributes
oh yeah LMAO
tbh i need to change myy jaren slot 1 i keep getting one shot in cordon
from sniper
i tried chiaroscuro but it limits his healing too much
ultra light folding mag the best adept for vodnik, btw
i think chiaroscuro is the best ikora slot 1 as well
eh depends really, wolf's build is so situational it depends on the stage length and the ads
O yea it is meant to push expanse (if there is anything after floor 120, havenāt heard yet) it is meant to push cordon. Otherwise it is a āhandicapā to help negate Tiers for F2P players or players struggling with end game content for pushing just that ālast bitā for the leaves.
But for players just starting off, or those who arenāt competitive but want to get end game rewards but donāt need every ounce of strength, it is not meant to be maxed. The gains for the nodes arenāt astronomical per upgrade. Clearing floor 70 has been doable with right units for a while, and clearing cordon 10+.
because at times you want to do ad clear so scattering shell+explosive shell
For those pushing cordon tho they get 120 incandescent clusters a season between that and weekly expanse. So it isnāt like they have to grind it hard.
Edit: depending on how much these final levels in the node cost.
specifically in elite stages
but if said stage is boss i think going for inverted is better
just because vodnik does a lot, assuming you have this mod
ive been dismantling all my yrapid fire mods lol
thats ok lol
efrideet and jaren are my rapid now XD
I have lots of love for Ning but seems a lot of players are getting better results with other characters compared to him, has he fallen off meta?
he does no damage
You should be dismantled
Does anyone know what they are doing with the gauntletz blitz triumph that requires modifiers as the modifiers dont exist anymore.
you balls how about i dismantle you
I cast testicular torsion
where is that balance lmao
the last two events asking players to farm the s out of chaos and legendary campaign
No they didn't, you just misunderstood them
The last two events allowed players of any grind level to be rewarded for their efforts, without letting the most hardcore grinders get too far ahead by giving them an aggressive soft cap
You weren't meant to max the event
I guess people who aren't as dedicated get upset that they can't max it. At least I was
surely maxing was impossible, but still people with higher time investment would get more lumia leaves, i would be ok with it if it was regular loot, but time limited event lumia shouldn't be locked behind hours of grind
Tbf he is one the 4*s worth it imo
He carryās weight and now with Tariq he can play CC comp
all 4 stars are worth it if you know how to build them lol
More heroes more comps
The only one Iād disagree with and it hurts me so
Kabr 1.0
He has a good idea but his damage is so bad since he heavily depends on wp damage
His ability builds work but not consistent enough imo unless your player super man Kabr 1.0 lol
Just done me days work so now itās chill time
my issue with him is the same thing with the 5 star
We need a weapon that converts super energy into "super ammo" or something like that
kabr 5 star i think would be better with symmetry with joint counter sight+energy conversion ammo
(up to +53% more dmg on primary)
We have a lot more potential out of heroes now with the mods
And a continuation of adding new additions can ultimately pull heroes into play
that being said its to early to have a say on whether a unit is objectively bad or not lmao
Exactly
Hence why I went defence mode with Tariq
And look how that worked out š
I donāt like to talk before I full dive in
for example, vodnik above water
you'd have energy conversion ammo for +40% primary damage and this
you'd have +60% more mag
and vodnik's damage output is tied to how much mag you have
Yeah definitely can see more work around to improving hero play
I think as a community we need to share more of this
Not like we dont already tbf we have a good share culture here
because any build is VASTLY situational from one and another
its not like "x build does more damage than x build initially" vs "x build progressively gets more damage than x build"
yeah maybe except boss stages but then again its situational
I hope itās retroactive, mines at 3/4 but I have both efrideet and Tariq so Iām assuming the 3rd is Gwynn, meaning Estella is 4
your problem
Anyone used or use a back bone one pro ?

Tbf once this cycle is finished all those heroes we upgraded are done until we get another cap increase
We werenāt meant to complete our hero roster in the first season
But they want to encourage us to play as much as possible to re instate closer to a hero pool that is usable in the near future because we have just litrally had a level cap increase
That being said you can already see the loop they are offering, by end of the next season I believe we would have built even more hearoes at near cap level
Once we reach hero cap which we have started already with emnare all youāll be doing is focusing on the newer hero and emnare upgrades like the previous compass every month
they have killed casual play, and numbers don't lie, it isn't about heroes, it's about how you need to grind a lot to get rewarded from the game, even silver bundles are locked behind season phases
Yeah I think for this round it is much more grindy
Because like I said we are raising our heroes again to the next cap, so basically another rinse repeat we just got out of lol
Hence the extra break out level lol I was waiting for the extra layer upgrade
that's just insanity to me, while some level of grind is acceptable they can't just sell it as content
This was my weapon pool just before S4 so I was thinking in my they are gonna layer me again otherwise Iād have noooo weapons to upgrade at some point
True I donāt want just progress my account farm resources
I want to compete and use what Iāve built for real incentives
Not just incentives to upgrade the hero in already grinding to upgrade lol
Like the reward system is material more materials and even more materials
And then the premium voucher currency lumi
Give me a nightmare raid with a 50% drop for a badass exotic
If you canāt complete it thatās on you
Need some of that attitude
look at emanare phase 10 nodes cost lmao, someone that plays 2 hours a day is gonna quit
they're putting the artificial cap on chaos/lc events on emanare and they knew what they were doing lol
Micro managing
Iāve been saying this
Because they donāt know right now how to place progress over time lol
its a struggle trying to stay over 10m glimmer š¢
And with the major PE change which is actually an inventory management scheme
They have to be extremely careful
They donāt over resource us
I think those are thrown in there to help out new players. As we have so many points avaliable it does make sense imo.
Because we are burning into progression rn
End of s3 we made a lot of progress on our hero pool
So saving hoarding materials became more frequent
If you got a large hero pool right now that you like to use, man itās gonna be a grind lol
My pool small
One thing I donāt do in gatcha is rage my hero pool
Because it start to feel more like a job then gaming lol.
Start small scale into reruns solidify the bench.
why is your xuan 71k
Took everything off
I got like digital ocd
So now I scale them 91k one by one lol unless I got a ready set
But my boi got a set I think someone else is using it lol
Jolder most likely
Need my freekora meta though
joined a first time prestige break in where 50% don't know how to do it š
not 1720 you must dismantle it and try again 
atleast it transfer lol
i got a 2nd one, i dismantle it, with cabal armor counter and sight zoom too
also 1360
unfortunately I'm only keeping max rolls 
soon i'll get another one
or the game will just hate me
the majority of mine have been 136 thats why I go for the pity craft and then thats also a 136 
already feels like a job to me, but until i have friends to grind with i'm fine doing it
look even ikora is better than wolf
bc they didnt have the wolf equip ssb balls
EZ (def didn't take me like 6 tries)
this was my weekly run time but I miss the 2:18 clears
also ngl I though high-temp jet-flow ammo would be better 100% do not recommend upgrading until you have the other adept mods
I expected a bit more from it too. It has some interesting interactions with Syncopating tho, and as the ricochets count for the fatal blow perks I could still see some use.
I was so hoping misfortune confettis ricochets could also trigger it.
If you hit a shinka, the ricochet ammo are empowered by shinka dmg ?
I did not try that. I will test that when I log on later.
My opinion is all of the utility mods that don't have any in-built damage boost to the primary effect needs to have +15% base damage
even the finisher impact mod needs it because you can feel the damage los when using it
The finisher I can definitely see, specially that it only activates on specific mobs, and at most knocks out what⦠10% health? It feels more like it is meant for primary to help conserve ammo.
The only adept mods that are truly worth are the one that boost both weapons equipped sadly
Part of the issue, is that we can now use our mythic weapons to enhance our exotics. So anything in the ammo spot has to compete with 15% to both weapons or 40% to primary. That is a hard one.
finisher can proc on anything that isnt a boss
but its super inconsistent and in the current state of the game there isnt really a reason to use it unless you're memeing in solo content
Didnāt know it could trigger on red names, but bosses are a major draw back for it. I havenāt tested that specific mod, just going off normal finishers.
the issue I have with it is it doesn't have anything to help you push the enemies into the fnisher range outside of taking the base/elite or boss/powerful substat. So in most cases you're better off just using a mod that adds damage rather than taking the finisher mod. especially if you need to kill a boss with the weapon later
now you just need to level it 
balls
Guys i am trying to upgrade but I am at loss what its expected of me to upgrade to phase IV, can't even move up to phase III
click on the phase preview or the big number
one should give the breakthrough option
or is this what you mean?
We now posting LG runs⦠the state of this game
go click on the number II in the middle of the banner
When I click it just lets me drag it up and down lol
??? its just stating that sub 3 minutes are possible even in phase 9 but they are nowhere as fast as they were in phase 4 
1 million power level when
Yeah weāre cooked⦠if already posting some lg runs in ss the game is in best shape yup
soonā¢
LC run times have been posted for months
uhm we saiyans have no limits smh
those 2 definitely had limits 
4 million super attack stats went crazy 
Also dont forget today is a great day to farm your weapon foundry emblems 
nvm figured it out,
Season > Phase II > Phase breakthrough, thank you for the assist! š
wdym I love waiting to turn 5 to fuse when guard only lasts for 4 turns and you gotta hope you dodge and stay under 70% hp.
same same different
instead of clear time we also need to care about the dps check
lets not pretend they weren't always dodge or die 
What a funny unit
1000 kills is going to be a struggle
@river vigil all the bad ones playing prestige now, not fun anymore
i queued earlier
how does people play prestige when they don't know how to do it
Wanna farm the prestige later? I left myself in chaos so I can farm to lvl up but after that Iām good
well the shiny matchmake button was right in front of their face
sure
All I want to do is just bridge fly but these people get 4 deaths in the first section and quit by the third when we're out of revives with 3 people left
i've stopped going over first just for the small chance it stops randoms from dying 
If I go over first tho I can fly back across and be there in time to get third
everyone but me has gotten a 4x45 drop
if I go over at any point of a match someone dies 
if I dont go over some random guy on the opposite side dies and if I'm really lucky 2 of them died to an impact shinka 
wtf how high is ur xuan wei
Sheeesh
worlds only built xuan wei
Oh my god
If itās just deaths Iād stay out. Most players are gonna get weeklies done rn
You can achieve it at the gun range, itās much faster but more boring
ayo? 2 from one dispatch?
reported
i know you used hacks
my lawyer will be in touch soon
and a fruit basket sent to your house
all because of the wombie of estela and gwynn
fr should of been me
dont worry we both know the craft will be a low roll 
Are we ever going to have this fishing spot fixed?
Soon
Soon tm
Fat wei
why are we still fishing
fishing the best
i heard fruit basket
Whats a foundry emblem? And why is today a good day?
they require kills with the weapon iirc
ngl @indigo solar i thought about mining the source image so i can set it as my phones background
Things like this should come with boosts idc
Like where is my weapon mastery boost
My genuine reaction seeing that its firmly planted and weapons master. š¤
The emblem doesn't improve the weapon, you just need to collect one of each weapon in a foundry to get the improved perk
š¤
Is there a trick to get melee / boxer when Spike shell is? looks like I'm super unlucky every time
Reset. Took me probably 30 mins to get it. I just slept with myself in chaos so i kept it
Hit phase 9 this morning and got 100% in all 4 of the seasonal challenges categories for the 40 universal crystals, am I missing much by not playing a lot until the end of the season?
I had to build a custom setup tho cuz i dont depend on ning, i run the much faster round trip umeko build
ok, so no trick available, just luck :p
In chaos Talk to xur, select impact. You can get boxer
oh really? thanks!
After the first 3 stage u can talk to him
but wow is melee under impact o_O^^
After the 6th too
-wow +why
Beats me
If you already cleared expanse 80 for phase 10 then you don't need to do much else, just do your weeklies amd bounties
What do we get from phase 10? Only cleared stage 75 so far
you get to go from 9 to 10
Lmao
Yep lol
where is leviathan š
Try melee comet too its fun, you need to pick comet as the chaos ability, if u are lucky you get the option
Max boxer and executioner, have a breeze
Mistranslation is the most likely explanation
the entrance is right over there
the quest cant be completed though
along with 10 others
levi will show up with the adept raids
or challenge difficulty I guess
about to make the best taco bowls
I like how this week's Frontlines quest is counting retroactively while last week's isn't. How did they only mess one up? They're almost the same
this is the weirdest one yet 
Just gotta play for 150 weeks, ez
Iām at 3466. Been a bear of a grind
Praise be to Surrounded, I don't think I could've gotten the 3 minute clear on any other mission
Wonder if they intentionally put that map in rotation this week due to negative feedback
Same, I got close on the last one but waited for this one for the much easier run š
Anyone farming prestige?
Itās the same missions every two weeks, but they change the shinkas iirc. Last time surrounded was here (2 weeks ago) it was blast
I seen that, gonna be lots of legacy farming this week
If you didnt actually get on early to exploit the bugged reset for na claiming chests for extra xp, it better not impact this in the end. Ontop of an absurd ammount of resources, now it wants xp -_-
just remove the xp cap tbh
I think lvl 3 is supposed to be the soft cap and anything beyond that will be optional, that's why the costs are so high
thats fine but if i lose bc i dont have the xp thats unfair.
Lose what tho
Is this worth keeping for IST? Or should I dismantle and try to get something else
Expanse
I really doubt a couple of extra nodes will make a big difference
Its like 100 levels ahead atp if u did it
wow, respect man that's crazy
Bro thatās fire š„šŖ
no devs operate game, just simple rotationš
Chat I gotta ask, with a T1 efrideet and no adept mods is it even possible to get a sub-5 on a leg campaign?
if you are skilled yes
I'm trying to get better with this event but I have struggled to even break 6 min. No deaths, clean kills, etc.
^
see if I knew the meta was just glitching I woulda been solid lmao. didn't even know you could do some of that
thx for the video!
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will have to see what skips are or aren't viable with efrideet, as she's the only character I have built up solid at adept 3 rn
you can do all of those on her
even if it is just one, any skipped encounter is timesave
I used umeko to keep it short, u can do all of them on efrideet.
did they increase issakis health in prestige???
I thought they patched like all these
they patched it working if the mobs arent spawned in
if the mobs spawn in you can still do skips
all the skips just worked yeah
took me to an easy sub 5 with pretty poor super optimization and heavy ammo econ
I love double marksman + shinka in the same encounter, in a fairly open sightline
Cant patch a taniks
thx game
Yes, but one Umeko and itās still a one phase if you are lucky with team mates
While ur here mythic, go on, roast it.
40k sidereal yeay is so bad, I cant wait to dismantle it again once i finish the 1k kills 
One with frat is good.
i'd just use my ist3 with frat
I remember 40k was considered the best sniper until last season, is the new solar sniper that much better?
Ist 3 has less shots, meaning if its solar, less shield breaks in some edge case scenarios. Especially if ur getting less heavy.
i'd still use it over it because of the damage difference between the snipers
Using the sniper for anything but a sheild break or a pesky red bar will 99.99% of the time result in dealing less dmg, bc you shoulda used crimson.
I often use it to break the orbs on that one stage ngl
I do, but I still havent ran into an issue where the ist3 didnt break the shield and the sidereal did
Edge case, sometimes i get stuck on expanse stages ngl and i swap to get more ammo, just so i dont have to redo it all
One with an ogre and orbs always does that to me. I hate that stage.
On that topic, I'm stuck on piercing floor 79. Any tips to kill the big servitor? The small servitors at the end are making me waste too much time
I just killed all of the servitors on the last platform 
for the other platforms I just speared the servitors off of the side and they fell making it easy to dps the boss
just stand out of small servitor sight they dont give immune to others if u are far away
same for floor 80 boss
which one
the long one? or the one with orbs
both i exploited them with range iirc
the long one
run to the back
wait am I the only one that didnt run to the back 
hold on let me get this relic of a video. Same one @indigo solar and i used to discover overshield perk was breaking ring of conversion iirc. It woulda been on my emea alt, who was underleveled at the time
š its so old
lmaooo that is great
@ashen swift I just cried
I haven't seen a triple 45 in weeks 
sadge.
Is not even the best one that i have laying around. Its so low on that one stat its useless.
Thanks, I'll try that next time
Also do you need to kill the shinka? I thought you could just ignore it
Ya u can ignore it
Again, overshield perk doesn't break conversion
Aight, guess I just need to get good RNG with the enemy placements at the end
Every time you get more overshield, it takes the highest timer
You always say this
You dont like the perk.
tbh these days i dont either
Man, one of these days I want to find a group to farm prestige raid. Im dying to get an adept mod
You could always doom queue matchmaking 
balls
Itās rough. I get like 1 a day. Usually good players but no one sticks around
the messages from lucy are messages i sent someone else in discord dms?
do you see them on your end @twilit thistle
what the actual fc kind of bug is that
oh i had that happen before too
guys i think riskrunner is good
but i wished it was just taking "any elemental damage" instead of taking "arc damage"
so his dr uptime is much better
also essentially infinite clip
with the dual fire rate mod, adept scope and energy conversion on the mythic crossbow it'd be great
so far it looks to be the case, if it gets hit by incoming arc damage
at least you can trigger it with abilities in rising
eh that works
i mean you kinda could in D2 by throwing a grenade at yourself
i was more into if it had better uptime
Must just like me š¤
oh i haven't upgraded my riskrunner at all, i just saw the catalyst upgrade when i first started the game
hmm thats good at least
Ok I won't lie, I'm new to this game (not console D2, vet on it) but how does one use the Lumina thingys you get as material?
need to play the story mode a bit longer
should be after i think the building your team quest when you meet kabr
Did that already, I'm on the mission right after it
hm, do you have the draws option unlocked when you open your menu?
Yep
ok that's where you use lumia leaves
Ah okay, thank you
and the boats
tbh right now I would not reccomend spending your lumia leaves
just use the blue boats you get from campaign and events
Estela will be coming once the gwynn banner ends, and so far Tariq is not a very strong character
they shadowbuffed tariq
or shadownerfed expanse one or the other
you can now tornado shriekers out of the sky and tornado the big ogre and displace him at the end of that stage
my goat
balls
anyone have a build for mesa prime?
did they patched apadana
yesnt
Hey
Any luck with all 45 artifacts? Or did u notice they are dropping with higher stats?
š
Rip
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Oh nice so they seem to be drop a lil bit higher
For everything you dont put on your wishlist.
Man like Tariq
Ye I noticed the efrideet ranked 1 in rapid fire got nearly all artifacts maxed
So either insane luck or they been dropping with better stats
I notice none of this, its just luck. It also does nothing other than power.
it does increase the substats further than t10 percentages
Ye but for expanse every lil bit of power and % on substats helps a lot
not only the base effect but the other stats as well
health/shield/weapon damage/and so on
wait thats the same it's late and I'm high š
More efficient to grind out gems imo, its such a small gain. Also unobtanium to get them all maxed
U can get very close tho
the difference is not a lot compared from 360 to 352
None of my drops were particularly good today but I did dump all of my exotic artifacf engrams into healing plasma and got a 43 45 45 45 artifact 
