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[stark forge]

yeah well adept mods offer not much significant buff over normal ones

[twilit thistle]

Joint counter sight could be the difference between me beating 99 rapid and not.

[river vigil]

true but I want it to have a net neutral bonus at worst

[stark forge]

at least give a 100-200% buff for how much mobius i had to spend

[river vigil]

tariq drew the short straw on adept mods

[twilit thistle]

It’s so close. I had all the first wave of bruisers down at exactly 1 min last night. 😭 10 seconds better than before

[sharp talon]

use ikora and dominate 99 rapid fire 😂

[river vigil]

I would love to try this on tariq, but guess what all of the new mag mods suck so for max power the adept mod has to be in the magazine slot

[bitter estuary]

oh

[twilit thistle]

Cabal armor counter

[stark forge]

cabal armor 😭

[sharp talon]

for efrideet it doesnt matter XD

[twilit thistle]

I have it it’s just less power than what I have on

In the expanse power is a big deal when u get to the higher stages 😭

[bitter estuary]

im crine

[stark forge]

scope mod cabal/fallen stat hell

[dark gulch]

hi

[bitter estuary]

nte balls pfp

[dark gulch]

say balls one more time

[sharp talon]

i desperately want a trench sight with cabal armor counter

[bitter estuary]

cubes

[twilit thistle]

I was crying when it dropped like this

[twilit thistle]

[dark gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-golf-ball-mae-muller-i-just-came-to-dance-song-fidgeting-the-golf-ball-shuffling-balls-on-my-hand-gif-27129130

[stark forge]

why u want that like more cabal dmg ?

[dark gulch]

sorry chat

[sharp talon]

ye fallen piercing for fulminator/the pit, cabal armor counter for foundry

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar is it actually better? (I always worried it wouldn’t apply to elemental shields )

[indigo solar]

Is what better

[stark forge]

is the multiplier for armor counter better than flat dmg boost ?

[sharp talon]

it is flat dmg boost afaik just to specific enemy

[sweet forge]

@twilit thistle I need you back for farming

[indigo solar]

It's a normal damage boost just vs specific enemies

[stark forge]

but is it better than close range dmg on the mod or similar

[sharp talon]

ye its 20% vs 10% given ur fighting a specific enemy

[indigo solar]

In activities with that enemy it's better

Otherwise it's worse

[twilit thistle]

😭 all I did was throw Shurikans and get like 0.0001% dmg

[stark forge]

oh noted i always delete faction rolls thought its useless

[sharp talon]

nah u got min max that 😂

[indigo solar]

It's no different than "damage vs boss/powerful" or "damage vs base/elite," just instead of splitting enemies based on rank it's based on faction

[oblique geyser]

overall dmg or with the specific weapon?

[sharp talon]

with the specific weapon

[oblique geyser]

its like an armor pierce that buff all dmg by 20%?

[sharp talon]

that would be cool

[dusty spire]

So if we acquire a adept mod and fully upgrading it finding a better one keeps the upgrades right?

[stark forge]

ye

[dusty spire]

So by that just use the adept until a better drop if it outperforms the current ?

[stark forge]

or delete them and gamble on synthesis

[dusty spire]

Just trying to squeeze a little more and I think the adapt I got would do it

But I don’t wanna burn so much just to pass the next stage when break out is around the corner

[twilit thistle]

Not worth it unless it’s equal to or higher power than ur current best mod 😭

[dusty spire]

This is what I’m thinking

[indigo solar]

A better one of the same name, yes

[jagged osprey]

@dusty spire how’s the Tariq grind going? Curious to know what Artifacts you’re running on him. I somehow managed to T6 him in only 200 pulls

[indigo solar]

And only if you don't delete the first one

[dusty spire]

First welcome to T6 gang
Everything has been a blast and he’s absolutely way better than my first play round

[twilit thistle]

At a cost of 100k glimmer idk if it’s worth deleting all of them

[dusty spire]

Straight solid dps don’t listen to noise unless it comes from reputable sources, he covers impact spread rapid

I use the recommended tailored set but I also have my own infinite over shield build.

He also has good nuke potential if you go pure ability and super, but your basically a charge until a boss or a huge mob cluster phase.

IMO he’s a solid 8/10 maybe greater

And lastly I beat you slightly to it at 180 something pulls however 200 is pretty much the same band so I think you scored a win 🥇 @jagged osprey

[twilit thistle]

U get like 30 per month 😵‍💫 I mean for some glimmer hoarders it’s fine but deleting it just to get another one to delete is gonna add up over time

[slender summit]

i had to do 329 to get t6 tariq

[dusty spire]

Your luck is building for something else and welcome to T6 gang

[jagged osprey]

Oh it was 220, but still. Exact same as Efrideet. I’m still trying to figure out his best set up

[dusty spire]

Tailored reccomended

This is old I’m in the 114100
But invest in his kit

He is all rounded so no matter what the element his up for it

[twilit thistle]

Dmg resistance with some way to heal seemed good for 1 and 2. Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] won’t let me speculate on 3 and 4 yet 😔

[jagged osprey]

I just have a super generic build on him right now

[dusty spire]

He won’t die

[jagged osprey]

I have manifesto maxed out besides last catalyst and honestly? They don’t feel as fun as the mythic arc ones lol

[twilit thistle]

I liked healing radiation but if it comes at the cost of dmg resistance it’s not worth it

[dusty spire]

By far my favourite set us is
Void the arc and solar being his last lol

Because arc and void set up feel more rapid fire

He’s a rapid fire/impact lol

[indigo solar]

Preponderant plasma/rampaging planetesimal

[twilit thistle]

Yes 100%.

[dusty spire]

Try got for his last hit inf ammo arc set up

It’s seriously strong

[indigo solar]

Optionally valiant perturbation over preponderant plasma, just if you have one built already

[twilit thistle]

It’s to the point that I know better bc by disagreeing I’ve screwed myself over too many times. Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] is always right 😭

[jagged osprey]

That was my random build for him obviously needs to be improved

[dusty spire]

You have the main 2 damage slots so your good

It if you want to go 4/4 in the defence department 🤣

[twilit thistle]

The more dmg resist the better.

[keen relic]

Vc anyone?

[neon pebble]

Someone carry me in something

[keen relic]

Your a expert

[twilit thistle]

Bug foudn where issakis will just randomly be immune

[sweet forge]

still here chilling

[sharp talon]

he got tired of being one phased

[twilit thistle]

After u shoot his legs properly, just sits there infinitely, doing the animiation like he is vulnerable @indigo solar

[sweet forge]

we would had one phase but someone used ikora at the front 🙁

[twilit thistle]

2nd helhest wasn't helping either. Tho those HH's are running arby to appear like they are dealing all the dmg, when in reality its often less boss dmg

[dusty spire]

HH is not shield pop and boss direct damage

With he beautiful utility

[twilit thistle]

ik but i wonder how many of them run out of heavy lmao

[dusty spire]

If they smart they play reserves and only pop shield for the refund lol

[neon pebble]

No im not

[dusty spire]

Which is really support lol

I guess

I quite like it tbf when she’s on your team you know you got a prime shield breaker

[red geyser]

🌹

[ocean venture]

Hello - Do PC (emulator) and mobile players have seperate lobbies for PvP now? Read this in IGC, could someone verify?

[bitter estuary]

balls

[twilit thistle]

💀 some helhests just built different tho

[sweet forge]

why censor me 🙁

[twilit thistle]

Didnt have consent and i knew it was u, tbh i dont usually do that, but recently bc the population is dropping so low i have been. I think its a rule

[sharp talon]

it has always been split afaik

[signal spade]

It's pvp only thing I think

[dusty spire]

Also can we be honest whilst neteas didn’t execute hero releases well I think they done well with the two releases in terms of what they are

Also everyone if you can include revamp Shifting gates

Please

Or tell them just open it up to mobile and pc

[sharp talon]

ye they should revamp, sg is probably the most boring thing in the game

[dusty spire]

Against bots

But against humans 😫 I need flex

[drowsy cypress]

netease dont care, thay have wwm and marvel rivals

[bitter estuary]

Balls

[drowsy cypress]

1 gatcha skin in wwm like whole 2-3 T6 heroes. And players just buy it

[dusty spire]

I think they do it’s just a much smaller team

But you can see obviously the marvels team has some type of talks

You can see a lot of things here that is a marvel rival signature

[drowsy cypress]

Hexi update is like x10 of whole DR content, and its hapoen in 6 mounth lol

[dusty spire]

It’s a slow progress for them here

[drowsy cypress]

i dont play rivals, but wwm

[dusty spire]

Star Lord

Tariq

[drowsy cypress]

i just drop it suddenly in jan and downloaded it 2 days ago. And gane gats a LOADS of content

and no neuroslop

[dusty spire]

Just bring power hour drops so we all hoard in the same location for that period lol

[drowsy cypress]

yea, Destiny: Earth

even d1 have venus, moon and mars on release🤣

[dusty spire]

I think they messed up the scaling

From my understanding with destiny your sorta behind the current raid power until you acquire the new sets and then your possibly able to scale down the amount of players needed to complete the raid?

So something about gear progression is not the same and because of that it follows a much more progress and collect over time

Much slower?

I can’t remember much but I only remember it not being so inflated with numbers

[twilit thistle]

🫠 I beat a t6 efrideet in boss dmg. T. SIX. EFRIDEET. Luckily we got carried by @sweet forge

[signal spade]

D2 hasn't had scaling that mattered since y2

[dusty spire]

Anyone also played with jade rabbit now we got influence mods?

[signal spade]

After forsaken year game just became contest mode and grinding got less and less valuable

[twilit thistle]

As you can see while I have the required mats to build them I havent even leveled an exotic scout

Not one core.

[indigo solar]

Hmmm

[bitter estuary]

i think the new mods would be amazing on symmetry

which makes me think

hmm i think kabr isnt as bad as ppl think now

[spring star]

😂

[bold fog]

issakis bug and cordon bug is killing me
surprise at the end of the mission

[twilit thistle]

ngl i got told to switch off her and i just stopped playing it.

[sweet forge]

issakis bug is killing me too

[bitter estuary]

umeko w/o issakis is just wack

[bold fog]

kabr time

[proven widget]

Been gone for bout a year....I miss anything?

[signal spade]

the games only been out for 9 months so the entire game

[lean burrow]

i wonder if we're still going somewhere into the solar system with the next major update

at least according to that trailer they released after launch

[twilit thistle]

Big group mod farm in jsm on na/latm

[signal spade]

when is an accout no longer new light

is it clicking the last page of the handbook?

[candid phoenix]

Level 90

[signal spade]

rly? i swear ive seen sub 90s without the tag

[twilit thistle]

Like 3-4 mins per chest

[dusty spire]

I feel like they would perform so much better now with the new mods, I want to try but I don’t really have much mats to circle into pierce atm

In terms of break out all my cats are done as you know I’ve done them all except two just need to update, only thing now is the next materials so I think I’ll just break out 4s and keep them their

Break out 5 is what 5% more?

Why the final upgrade the smallest boost but the most materials ?

[twilit thistle]

Sponsor me 😂

[dusty spire]

I feel like you need to sponsor me 😫

Id like to see performance so if you ever do commit show case please

Honestly interested for Kabr 2.0

[bitter estuary]

balls

[dusty spire]

So any guesses for heroes next season ?

It’s summer time coming

They need to cook

With the best chefs at this point

[thorny frost]

@twilit thistle took to long, but got her through it >.>

[polar summit]

Mythic bikini umeko

[thorny frost]

And now… I work on Thunderlord XD

[twilit thistle]

Wht gifts did u use?

[dusty spire]

Win is a win

[thorny frost]

Yea now it will be time to see if she can do 91-100

[dusty spire]

Show us what she’s made of!

Honestly 90 is impressive rn

[thorny frost]

I need about 60 more infusion cores till I finish Thunderlord, then I can try it and see how well it does in actual content. Otherwise it is going back to furies and song

[dusty spire]

Hmm

I’ve got it cat maxed

It’s a good break

[thorny frost]

I am missing 2 nodes

[dusty spire]

But from what I see Estelle has a long wave of consistent damage

So I think it will work very well

Since it keeps pumping ammo into chamber

No reload

[thorny frost]

It’s issue would be ammo economy and dps

[dusty spire]

So hier sort of standard for ammo

But the dps I honestly couldn’t give you a realistic answer

[thorny frost]

It also works with her artifacts, you will never put arc substats on her

[dusty spire]

Because your currently using the best lmg hero I don’t have

[thorny frost]

So heir will always have the edge

[dusty spire]

My test are based on Kabr 1.0
And his weapon damage build

And his does well for a break

Many arc he’s breaking shields no problem

But his reliance on it really does him no justice

[dusty spire]

I actually love this weapon don’t get the opportunity to use it enough

I like Estelle but now I’ve got tariq I’ll wait for an alternative lmg user

But who ever got her truly got a banger

Imo

[thorny frost]

Maybe bee keeper. The leaks feels like some sort of rapid. Or else maybe they will have crossbow

[dusty spire]

Any rapid addition to the hero pool at mythical level is adding power to Est

[thorny frost]

But yea I like Estela, she just has a couple QoL issues due to being dependent on things you can’t control

[dusty spire]

So even if your not interested in the next rapid hero you’ll definitely be interested in the kit

Also bee keeper is a summoner from my understanding

So that should make the weapon universal to Estelle

Like tariq being able to use gwyns kit was such a great sell

[thorny frost]

Based on leaks they could be, it will depend on what their DoT is considered, or how much overhaul they got since December.

But I might see if I have an artifact set for Kabr, see if he can push 71-80 arc a little later on

*kabr 1.0

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar Elemental fisson clamp: Terrible, tested with boralis and crimson. Electron ammo: Terrible for crimson, decent for alternate builds.

Energy conversion ammo still the main mod for those.

[bitter estuary]

iron bar is fun

[twilit thistle]

Ngl i dont even think elemental was working as i saw no diff

[twilit thistle]

As xuan wei

[bitter estuary]

as balls

[twilit thistle]

I gave you an option that meets the criteria.

[bitter estuary]

that's ikora wdym

😔

[twilit thistle]

👀 u didnt get the joke

fr tho when i would get killed by xuan wei's i would ragequit

[bitter estuary]

how

finnala best in pvp

[twilit thistle]

octant

[dusty spire]

You pulling ?

[twilit thistle]

Not one was better than what i already had on.

[thorny frost]

It’s a support unit so yea, in MMOs I always played a support class

[dusty spire]

I’m glad to see this, I play priority defence tank and then I’m support.

And I think the game should cator to different player types

[thorny frost]

I could probably T6 the next 2 units in all reality as long as I don’t have bad luck.

[dusty spire]

Marvel rivals on a competitive level in a tank or offensive but mmo rpgs always tanks/support

[dusty spire]

I’m all for getting what you want and stretching them as far as you can

Maru has fallen off and I’ve accepted it just like Gwynn players had to

However with what neteas done with Gwynn recently I look forward to Maru 2.0 🤣

Maruru

[thorny frost]

All units (if the games last long enough) will probably meet the same end. Support tend to have the longest shelf life if they are designed well also in gachas.

[dusty spire]

She still my bae

[dusty spire]

Agreed eventually utility becomes a necessity

Glass cannon is always a option however depending on skill level risk reward and time wasted it’s not always the best option

Efficiency beats failed attempts

[thorny frost]

That is where tanks come in in a group setting if the dps obtained is worth the risk and trade offs of losing some dps from having a tank. It is like Tariq could allow for radiation set on Estela and she wouldn’t be as high risk then in cordon.

[dusty spire]

Tariq definitely allows different comps

[bitter estuary]

hi balls

[dusty spire]

Where some hero are squishy naturally like Estelle

[thorny frost]

I wonder if his shield is applied to the summons…

[dusty spire]

Now with her stationary prowess she now kicks with Tariq besides her

[twilit thistle]

That was a quick clear @cursive depot 3:41 was a new record for me

[dusty spire]

And that’s what I like

[cursive depot]

yea that was clean, that would be my fastest if the run before wasnt a 3:31

those 2 helhest are pumping

[twilit thistle]

premade?

[dusty spire]

Tariq is an addition to scorch comp

[cursive depot]

nah just matched them twice in a row

[dusty spire]

I’m a scorch comp fan

[thorny frost]

Her innate stationary build was removed. But artifacts could still have some use then. Losing light link removed the need for her to stand still

[dusty spire]

For me scorch comp then chain lightning then overshield

[cursive depot]

I pray the rerun makes her summons beefier

[twilit thistle]

ig a single phase is all u can rlly beat it on atm cuz half the time on phase 2 he breaks

[dusty spire]

Even though void overshield comp is the most aggresive thing in the game atm lol

[balmy raft]

[twilit thistle]

💀 i hate having to use my hh for that. Like the one activity hawkeye ruins u in and i have god rolls for both arby and rc on hawkeye

[river vigil]

Soon™

[twilit thistle]

think i did about 8% of the dmg

[river vigil]

I hate using helhest

[cursive depot]

same tbh

glad others enjoy her

[river vigil]

Same because just like estella mine stays in the inventory unless I'm truly bored

Or I'm forced to buy a duo

[twilit thistle]

im gonna run talisman of inspiration just to drive @indigo solar crazy and bc i just randomly saw its 45 45 40 45 and has arby god rolls

[neon pebble]

Did I miss getting this?

[cursive depot]

no that was added at S4 release

will prob be here during halloween this year

[river vigil]

So soon™

[cursive depot]

or sooner who knows

[neon pebble]

Eos before we get it sweet

[indigo solar]

Yeah that was the 2024 FotL mask

[twilit thistle]

ngl inverted survival looked kinda tempting too taniks

[indigo solar]

If you're playing properly you shouldn't be losing health consistently

[twilit thistle]

wdym its totally worth sacraficing all dmg bonuses

[river vigil]

[twilit thistle]

might be good on a t2 tariq tho since the only time id run him is when hh's request it

[bitter estuary]

fyi for sparrow racing afk players

its going offline for 10 min

😂

[river vigil]

Isn't that at 2:50?

[bitter estuary]

you is in na/latam

this is for emea/apac

[river vigil]

Yeah I'm afking it

[bitter estuary]

balls

[twilit thistle]

Its bait.

They are going to log ur time spent in it i bet.

[river vigil]

Not as bait as adept mod farming

[twilit thistle]

And if it exceeds what would be death for must humans, youll get banned.

[river vigil]

Easy come, easy go

I'll just go back to dokkan battle

[twilit thistle]

3 seconds too slow that time 🙁

[cursive depot]

lol still fast bake tho

assume its just the time to break the weak spots thats the difference

[twilit thistle]

if we had competent players would be different.

[river vigil]

They're just like me

[glossy cape]

i feel attacked by this

[twilit thistle]

yea the mvp is kinda like u ngl

[twilit thistle]

?

[cursive depot]

nah you being the big dog on hh

[twilit thistle]

If u were in there even i dont remember who u were lmao thats why i started censoring. Appears that doing that is upsetting ppl. Still, i used to say these things without it 💀 i wonder how many times someone saw it

[glossy cape]

was just playin, looked over and saw myself

[glossy cape]

tryin bro

[cursive depot]

shouldve done 30% boss dmg smh

[glossy cape]

was a few salvo stacks short goin in or id of had it

[cursive depot]

Im just out here keepin estelas good name

amongst the waves of hh and efr

[twilit thistle]

thought about trying her out, i essentially have 4 options

[cursive depot]

close to getting her ascension with the new pack condensate option

[twilit thistle]

Fr tho these drop rates are stupid

[river vigil]

[twilit thistle]

Im tired of it ngl. I have gotten like 3-4 out of this since launch

Its rediculous.

[river vigil]

Ngl I'd rather buy adept mods for silver than queue another onslaught

But I'll probably queue more later

I'm 1 bad drop from another pity craft

[twilit thistle]

I mean why its it photon levels of unobtainum. Im using overclocking capacitors thats prolly my issue, im just not gonna use them anymore its a waste of resources.

[river vigil]

I've already used all of my x2 and x3 claims so now I'm stuck at 1 roll per clear

[twilit thistle]

yea ima save those in the event @signal spade wants to grind out cordon again. Ngl that would probably be a more realistic way of getting stronger atp.

[river vigil]

one day I'll touch cordon again

I still need to finish the seal

[twilit thistle]

I mean the 10% could be farmed out ngl

Its the most unrewarding thing to do, cuz im pretty sure there is bias to these drops.

I noticed that bc alot of the weapons are ones I haven't been building, they dropped without any additional perks.

[river vigil]

?

imagine how nice it would be if the other people afking sparrow racing would set up their macros correctly so it actually selected their character and hit ready

[river vigil]

:T no one wanted to do cordon so I guess I'll start queueing onslaught again at 7:30

1 more adept drop and im done woth onslaught for the day atleast

[oak kettle]

I just don’t bother with a macro, I boot rising on my ancient phone and just manually tap ready and rematch every 3 minutes

[river vigil]

Most of the people I see don't hit ready

[oak kettle]

Yeah, it’s certainly annoying

[cosmic trellis]

I do that too, usually when playing something else or watching movies at night lmao

Spotify overheats my phone within minutes but rising seems ok with grinding for a few hours

[oak kettle]

Lmao

[cosmic trellis]

Downside is I keep having to check to make sure the match ended, and sometimes I forget and have to start over rip

[oak kettle]

Eh I just keep it in line of sight

Quick half second check whenever it feels like it’s been a few minutes, check the race time and from that I can pretty reliably catch the match end, deal with the loot drops and restart the process

[twilit thistle]

I opened 50 of those today.

Not one was better than what i already had.

[river vigil]

Tbf all of my artifacts have been like that too

Surely phase IX is when I'll get my star upgrades

[crisp shuttle]

Nope, nada, no, not happening

[twilit thistle]

This game is stupid. Honestly idk why im even playing this atp im not due for a payout so the game wont give me anything today.

I mean i was open to there being an actual change from what it was. I spent all day thursday in the expanse. Friday, due to that sudden change, it dropped four exotics in a short timespan. Kinda did this just to prove it today. Thats not rng.

[river vigil]

you know what I'll wait until tomorrow before I touch prestige again

[twilit thistle]

I mean its not a bad system for pinnacle, it appears to protect against exploits, and helps keep things balanced. Even right now its a good system for players that spend less than 4 hours in game. Its way too agressive for those that grind past 4 hours tho.

[river vigil]

substats are too low

[bold fog]

me when every one of them has "health" so i can't refactor to a better roll

[twilit thistle]

Yup and when you get the one you need, it would just be avoiding health, and trying to replace all the other ones. Thats the other pattern id notice. Even if its 50/50 itll avoid it.

I litterally would figure out in s2-s3 when i was due for an upgrade by looking at my screenshots.

Of the 50 i opened, the best was was identical in power to my current. Even that one wasnt great either, 90 power from max, so there's no reason i shouldn't see anything.

[neon pebble]

Isnt it all rng?

[weak sparrow]

who's the freakin

the cowboy guardian again??

he looks really cool

[neon pebble]

Jaren

He is cool

[twilit thistle]

No.

[neon pebble]

It says it is

[twilit thistle]

We don’t have access to the code, what I see is the same pattern, a pattern I can predict.

[bold fog]

so this is apparently completely useless right?
it expires this season
so I might as well hoard engrams to next season?

[twilit thistle]

This feels good

Batch 2 of sub 2600 power drops.

[crisp shuttle]

Damn

Still better that what I get though

[twilit thistle]

Most of them were sub 2500

Its rediculous. And a waste of resources for me to use 50 choice engrams and get nothing. Why even have choice engrams

[weak sparrow]

is tariq any good?? I just got him and I wanna know if I should be hard pressed on leveling up his stuff

[twilit thistle]

t6 yes anything else nah just good for shinkas

[bold fog]

ah yes, currency we dont use

omg, front lines still give the currency even if you're out?
so it's still useful

[oak kettle]

He’s worth investing into cus he’ll still be an emanare character in S5, so you’ll want him at 87500 for that. At T6 he’s a decent character, otherwise there’s better options for most things

[twilit thistle]

The non boss ones? U just found out about that? Would afk in s1 for hours in areas that were in two frontlines.

sadly now it has a 2 min timer bc of ppl like me, if ur afk in the system u dont get the reward.

bypassed by pressing w every 1 and a half minutes. not discovered by me 100% someone else

[brisk mango]

(groans) made multiple attempts at the final part of Elivagar (not sure if I spelt it right) and failed each time, everyone just fails and then gives up after one try, I can't understand why nobody even tries with this, they just all bail mid fight, get themselves killed or force me to take charge when I am best suited for ad clearing due to lag issues

Honestly it like Destiny 2 VoG all over again where I made repeated attempts to get the Vex Mythoclast and failed even when we beat the raid's final encounter except now we can't even beat the encounter

[bold fog]

ppl bailed a lot, is why im not even doing mid mission
entry or boss is the only way
did they not know mechanics or dps?

[brisk mango]

I knew it but its clear they did not as when the group opposite of mine is in the dunking phase with the platforms they fumble it, not to mention they never take into account that the Cabal can just outflank us and hit us from behind and the few times we get to the DPS its like nobody knows what to actually do or someone just up and leaves

[bold fog]

5/6 for entry if u na

[brisk mango]

Plus when I grab the orb that sends you into the illusion I just end up plummeting to my death and cannot see the symbols because for some reason it doesn't put me on the ground but below it

[bold fog]

ok yeah the damn flanks. when im dunking the kabrbot never clears room for me, gotta strage

strafe

[brisk mango]

Plus due to lag issues I have its really hard to dodge, I could be strafing the enemy and they are still able to hit me or I suddenly die from nothing because the game was slow to register that the enemy was firing and then just remembered (my phone has really old software so it lags or even crashes a lot)

[bold fog]

https://tenor.com/view/aang-nope-avatar-last-airbender-dodge-zuko-gif-9263017

[brisk mango]

Heck I cannot even run the lanterns because that requires me to stand on the platforms where I am at risk of getting shredded by enemy fire and the only character I can use is Wolf since I was only able to get Wolf's power level high enough

[stark forge]

bc its faster to leave if no one knows what to do

[brisk mango]

Worst part is I cannot call someone to replace anyone who leaves forcing me to build a whole team from scratch each and every time

Also worse when everyone decides to only run Efrideet and Umeko who use piercing weapons which leaves me as the only one with a rapid fire weapon since due to power levels I am only able to use Wolf at the moment

Like nothing wrong with those two but its really annoying when there is nobody else using rapid fire weapons which are needed for the Shinka Colossus

[indigo solar]

Efrideet is rapid

[brisk mango]

These days it seems everyone I team up with in game has no clue what to do

[indigo solar]

Umeko can be rapid if they run total lockdown

Very solid, better than wolf imo

[river vigil]

tariq is also rapid

[indigo solar]

But they didn't mention people using Tariq

[vast sky]

Woe Ragebait be upon ye

[indigo solar]

No she genuinely is

[brisk mango]

I thought Tariq only used impact and spread weapons also Efrideet and Umeko's weapons are labelled as piercing, what are you talking about?

[vast sky]

Probably crimson spammers

My bad COPERS*

[river vigil]

rapid shinkas only need to be hit x amount of times so any weapon that can increase its rate of fire/has a decent rate of fire or can do multiple instances of damage will break them

[indigo solar]

Efrideet uses Crimson, which is 540 rpm. During her dash it fires at 670 rpm

[vast sky]

[brisk mango]

People use Crimson? I thought nobody used that gun

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/announcer-announcer-meme-awful-opinion-awful-take-bad-opinion-gif-925753956088699311

[vast sky]

Some people who dont have groll mythics gotta do what they gotta do ig gang

[indigo solar]

It's decent on her bc it lets her spam more javelins

[vast sky]

Next hero trust

[indigo solar]

And Umeko uses total lockdown, which fires at 780 rpm

Meanwhile the fastest auto rifles are 600 rpm iirc

[vast sky]

This on the otherhand is not cope

Total lockdown proving once again to be the 🐐

[twilit thistle]

Crimson is preferred bc it is also reloaded with the dash. TL is way too slow for that.

[indigo solar]

It won't beat a machine gun or crossbow, since they do bonus damage, but it is the best non-rapid primary for rapids

[brisk mango]

Well anyway the real problem I have is from the lag and random crash problems, I know I'll have to replace my phone sooner or later, guess I just need to find a way to get my other characters to a high enough power level

[vast sky]

Doesnt crimson scale terribly against super high end shinkas where you basically need weapons with the bonus multipliers though

[twilit thistle]

crimson melts everything in the expanse. Im on 99 rapid with it

[indigo solar]

Huh

TL has a blazing fast reload

Especially with frat

And it has a higher mag size and triple tap

[bold fog]

ok well dont wolf
but yeah you gotta be dodgy

[vast sky]

Honestly if the game had more infrastructure for social bonding and things like clan wars and purchasable den custom hideouts with individual player housing in the den area with just more general customization and more reasons to play with people i'd have never left the game ngl

But for an mmo the game always felt very isolatory

maybe im coping

[bold fog]

to be fair
we have clans and clan activities and vc activities

people just don't use it

[vast sky]

Clan activities - ????

[bold fog]

and you can customize the clan hall

[brisk mango]

It's not like I want to play as Wolf, they are just the only character that I have a high enough power level at, I've noticed people most often chose Efirdeet, Umeko, Resolute Kabr, Estela and sometimes Gwynn (no idea why on the last one)

[vast sky]

Checklists for bonus clan mats when playing with clan mates i dont really count as a clan specifically activities

[bold fog]

what's your mythic chars

[vast sky]

A heavily nerfed version thats very limiting

Was way better in the alpha

Like 15x better

[indigo solar]

Because we exploited it

But anyways aker I need you to hop back on so you can donate shards to me

[vast sky]

And there was literally triple the anount of furnishings and double the intended customization area

[neon pebble]

Taniks needs gwynn shards fr

[indigo solar]

Bring back second floor and roof decorations

[neon pebble]

Nobody even goes to wolf den except for test area

[indigo solar]

Btw there's a bug where you can place two items in the same place, haven't figured out how to consistently replicate it yet tho

[vast sky]

And give us more placeable slots around the den in general, let us use the backroom for SOMETHING, AND BRING BACK ALL THE DEN ASSETS THEY REMOVED

[twilit thistle]

👀 no ability usage sg competition when

[neon pebble]

Medieval mode fr, Rossi talked about riding horses and killing lightbearers. Let us go back in time to the beginning of the warlords

[indigo solar]

The children yearn for the shrines

[vast sky]

I WANT MY GARDEN AND CHRISTMAS AREA BACK GANG

[twilit thistle]

Add pack vs pack warfare

Completely justified.

[vast sky]

THE GARDEN WAS THE BEST THING IN OUR DEN

[indigo solar]

Christmas can be done now iirc, since they added more

[vast sky]

Thats what im saying, add clan wars gang

[indigo solar]

They were at least considering it at one point

[neon pebble]

Turf wars

[vast sky]

I alr checked the amount of christmas assets are half the alpha

[neon pebble]

Pvp, pvevp, or pve?

[vast sky]

Allegedly

[indigo solar]

Iirc pvpve, lemme see if I can find an image

[neon pebble]

Shifty gates?

[vast sky]

Have it last 3 days where each day is one of those three

[neon pebble]

Id be down for pvp content

Espec if fair play was finally not involved

[indigo solar]

Oop, someone forgot the 11 line limit

[neon pebble]

Gimme full build pvp

[indigo solar]

Okay they were considering both

Also idk why the image isn't uploading

[vast sky]

Light level based pvp would go crazy

[indigo solar]

There we go

[vast sky]

Man

[neon pebble]

Be a reason to grind and it could give good rewards

[twilit thistle]

Rlly just anything to prevent packs from overgrowing. (Preventing an insomnia comeback we all want to see btw)

[vast sky]

This person knows ball

[indigo solar]

Insomnia Icarus'ed ourselves

[vast sky]

If they added these clan features tbf like 80% of the clan would come back

[indigo solar]

And slackers cough Akernan cough quit playing, then everyone else followed suit or left for other packs

[vast sky]

Back up, everyone quit THEN INQUIT

[indigo solar]

Nuh uh

[vast sky]

YUH HUH

[indigo solar]

Mossy didn't quit

[vast sky]

I didnt know mossy was our entire clan

[indigo solar]

Is he part of "everyone"

[vast sky]

Okay 99% of people quit then i quit

[crude basalt]

Hi

[twilit thistle]

There are not just one, but numerous packs that are expanding into multiple packs. If there was actual incentive, insomnia would 100% rise again.

[indigo solar]

Honestly tho I'm most disappointed with yall about the raids

I figured at least raids would let yall get yourselves together again

[vast sky]

Gang i was 11th on crota and like 7th on the newest one

[indigo solar]

But you all went off to your own groups instead

Yeah but with how many people from insomnia

[crude basalt]

I deleted codm

[vast sky]

One

[indigo solar]

Exactly

[twilit thistle]

Example: what if pack preformance had a major impact on loot quality.

[indigo solar]

Dropped the ball on speedruns too

And don't give me the "there's no competition" because there was none in the alpha or beta

[brisk mango]

Here's the ones I have and their power levels: Jolder-91169 ,Ning Fei-86856, Gwynn- 90104, Resolute Kabr- 89901, Jaren- 89867, Tariq- 89684, Estela- 87766, Efrideet- 91298, Tan-2 -90868, Maru- 90432, Helhest- 87898, Hidden Ikora-87372 (this their power levels whenever I select them otherwise they are shown with 16150 less power)

[indigo solar]

It was done for the sake of doing it

Yall just got bored

[crude basalt]

And destiny

[indigo solar]

Which sucks because new stuff actually has a lot of speedrun potential

But I'll never get to see it bc I don't have anyone willing to run it with me

And with infinite grind, speedrunning is actually worthwhile

[vast sky]

Or rewards for clan wars were distributed by individual contribution and the highest contributors would earn currency to invest in player owned housing with the clan wolf den, or given special cosmetics like player borders, custom vfx weapon shaders/splash art/borders etc etc

[vast sky]

Infinite grind ≠ grind that respects my time

[indigo solar]

It's really not that bad

It's just bad bc we got hit with everything at once for s4

[vast sky]

Like the grind in this game is running the same activity for 7 hours to get 2-3 of the same upgrade currency to get one weapon upgraded

[indigo solar]

Next season will only be mats, you'd only need to play for like 3-4h a week to max emanare

[bold fog]

kabr tariq estella efri helh ikora are all good
and at boss kabr efri helh are best characters
why commit to wolf?

[vast sky]

Legendary campaign pmo

[indigo solar]

See legendary campaign got speedrun

Now it's done in 2-2.5min

[vast sky]

I was actively making competitive leg campaign times and it still feels awful

[indigo solar]

But if you're not at a piss jar chokepoint, they made sg a worthwhile grind for cores

[vast sky]

To do legendary campaign

30 times for one exotic upgrade

[indigo solar]

So many problems would get fixed if they just advertised again and actually got a decently sized playerbase

Like to your point earlier about feeling sparse as an mmo, patrol areas are actually pretty high volume these days

But instances are just always solo with bots

[vast sky]

That or if they actually added any content that expanded the game in a meaningful way cause this seasons story content and raid were great but like getting seasons with like 1/5th the content of a regular destiny season just doesn't hit

And i didnt even like destiny 2 season model

[indigo solar]

S3 was a step in the right direction seasonal-story-wise

We got weekly lore drops with cutscenes

[brisk mango]

Again I am unable to get the others power levels higher due to being unable to find the resources to get them higher, its like no matter how hard I try accumulating enough Incandecense clusters, Overfitting data lattice or the means to get the artifacts to a high enough power level is impossible

[vast sky]

Yeah

[indigo solar]

And then they decided "no season story besides raid, no character story, semiannual campaign"

[vast sky]

Idk man unless the game gets a massive overhaul idk if im really coming back hardcore

[brisk mango]

I don't really want to commit to Wolf but I just can't find ways to get the others higher in power level

[vast sky]

Like ive put like 200hrs into torchlight infinite this past month

Its not a me being a filthy casual dif

[bold fog]

sounds like u split yourself 10 ways

[vast sky]

Build tall before wide

Rule of gachas esp for low spenders

[crisp shuttle]

I like to do various other things and wait for the boss fight to start, shoot the boss 1 time, and then claim my rewards, lol

[bold fog]

exactly
i mock about having 3 arc piercings in a row, but that means you don't need to sweat invest in all of them
get 3-4 max you can

[vast sky]

TO BE FAIR you cant be necessarily faulted since it feels like 95% of the roaster is piercing and or arc

Ik its not and im being hyperbolic but

[brisk mango]

It never seemed like that big of a problem before, I was able to get their power levels high enough due to stockpiling resources (its just the exotic upgrade resources that are a pain)

[twilit thistle]

Tbh it did, it just didnt get it in the right areas. They dumped the very tiny budget into 3 areas that already had too much, and had numerous changes already. Haven ops, realm of the ix, and gauntlet ops. Nothing truly new was added for us to do, and it rlly wasnt done in a way that made it replay able for most.

[obtuse chasm]

Drop rates haven’t changed btw 🫩

Yall need to stop spreading your resources between so many characters and focus mainly on 2-4

[twilit thistle]

i crashed out earlier about that

[lean ferry]

i got you. just hit a pb in this new mode called "sparrow racing"

[obtuse chasm]

I haven’t been on here recently I missed it 😔 taking a break from dr till next season

[twilit thistle]

.

[obtuse chasm]

That’s painful

[vast sky]

Exactly the case, there are still major systemic things that need to be changed and or have systems added, and yes replaybility is abysmal, honestly one thing i can think of is the game feels to isolatory for an mmo and an easy way they couldve gotten around that is have IX content be optionally multiplayer and dont just make it mindless, add more interesting mechanics and you could even have hoarde mode levels where the whole goal is "survival as long as you can lmayo" while doing mechanics on the side like some revamped prison of elders type mechanics but it lasts up until the fireteam wipes which probably wouldve been healthier for artifact farming,

[bold fog]

netease: did you like tan2? here's umeko helhest kabr efrideet
ikora: yeah i just do everything

[indigo solar]

I think this was my pb with purple sparrow, haven't done a serious run since getting the free mythic but I hope to one day be able to get an incomplete like you

[vast sky]

And yet i refused to touch 5 star ikora

Cause i hate her mf wig

[lean ferry]

5th place incomplete at that too

[bold fog]

rly? she's my main

[twilit thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-larry-luciano-snail-race-slow-gif-2065958177677714904

[lean ferry]

your dps seemed a little low ngl
might want to work on your damage rotations

[vast sky]

Also another thing i think is really bad for this game

[indigo solar]

No but this actually pmo so much, I barely played for three weeks and now I do maybe 8% damage in a six-man activity

[vast sky]

It doesnt really have monthly events that are rotating like destiny

Like used to get faction wars, iron banner, ACTUALLY fleshout seasonal events, etc etc etc

With things you can only get from farming those

[indigo solar]

We've got Morgran's hunt and legendary campaign+

IIRC there's one more rotating week-long event

[bold fog]

yaaaaaaaa mod from free run

[vast sky]

Which has nothing exclusive to it that would need to be desirable

[indigo solar]

Ooh nice, the infinite ammo mod

[vast sky]

Literally its just mats and artifacts

[twilit thistle]

lol thats completly normal rn. Dmg is meaningless these days with randoms cuz the helhests know where the elemental shields are to break.

[brisk mango]

Okay just managed to get Efrideet to a high enough power level (miraculously) so the problem is more so from the people I get partnered with as well as system lag

[lean ferry]

i wish we could turn off talents so i could try stuff like sub 3 t0 this week

[indigo solar]

No I could be playing with a random Kabr and get out-damaged

I play legacy with two bots and only do 60%

[lean ferry]

@torpid kiln

[twilit thistle]

yea i kept complaining to u bout that too. should be using what d2 uses to prevent that kinda stuff, so everyone can play normal activites equally.

[vast sky]

Yeah cause the bots have like a 500% multiplicative damage bonus just to keep up

[vast sky]

That and there just needs to be actual mf build crafting that changes how characters play, the game would be way more addictive if the game had a build system closer to wf or outriders due to its hero based nature but with builds that could fundamentally change how characters play

Imagine if you could build steve 3 different ways and he'd still be viable

[indigo solar]

Emanare abilities are a step in the right direction but imagine making it actually a skill tree instead of a stat tree

[lean ferry]

we have the emanare now so we're all good there

[indigo solar]

And bring back OG calyx system

And make melees meaningful

[lean ferry]

where's my swordbreaker 1 2 punch

[indigo solar]

Every character should have a chargeable melee baked in that does enough to one shot red bars on light at minimum

[vast sky]

Like a shield stacker steve that instead of 3 shields he just places an arc dome that pulses out an aoe that stuns on first hit of an enemy while giving you a slightly larger damage bonus, vs a steve build thats all about beaming where you could make the beams chain, and chaining causes you to gain stacks of a buff that increases beam charge rate etc etc

[lean ferry]

was pissed af when that didnt even work with the emanare lmao

[vast sky]

Or a steve build where your shield is replace entirely with displacement totems so instead of directly shielding you imagine they were more like summonable arc towers (like vex constructs) that you could cast on enemies and it would draw agro but if you shot the tower it would split the initial bullet up and ricochet it between nearby targets of the tower

[lean ferry]

on a serious note though, something like this would be much more interesting to grind for than resetting everyone's stuff over and over again

[vast sky]

get me in the game director seat trust

[twilit thistle]

There is some of that now especially with efrideet. But yea i think where they went wrong is artifacts. Good idea, but they didnt have the resources to balance them, and now we have a ton of artifacts that do exactly the same thing with different conditions. over half of them aren't used. They added too many variables. Outside of weapons, its just a bunch of clones.

[brisk mango]

Okay so on an unrelated note, does anyone know what the fastest way to raise proficiency is? for some reason the lore quests in Tariq's lore section require me to raise his level up to grandmaster

[indigo solar]

I'd be more than willing to be a balance/play tester but they don't even have CC early access builds anymore

[indigo solar]

Chaos

[brisk mango]

Thought so

[vast sky]

And thats the flaw with the artifact systems, artifacts should have been character specific from the get go to change how characters functioned like how warframe augments work and the ones that didnt augment your playstyle would be specific general stat artiacts like increasing a specific type of damage etc etc that could be cross character similar to a true modding system but with an emphasis on artifacts that augment your playstyle not just give you a bigger multiplier

You get some universal multiplier mods for guns/abilities/elemental damage types/etc that all have one or two slots in a build and then each character uses slots to change or alter gameplay, that also would allow them to band aid fix older characters and keep them meta relevant by giving them new augments or seasonally aiding character specific augments to break an underplayed character for one season

Cause like- who plays people like juan weiner anymore

It'd also let people play into character play styles more effective cause ik a handful of players that are die hard rossi mains but cant play him often cause hes not competitive cause his abilities are high value but his down time is doodoo

Holy yap fest akernan

[twilit thistle]

Nah what i mean is that it takes what d2 has, which is like armor, and the super thing. And it forks it off into something that i can only call an abomination. The logic here is extremely hard for even us to manage, let alone developers who dont play like we do. I think armor would have been better, and a predefined tree, that the devs hardcode or something. Not the primitive one in d2 tho more like the fishing ability tree, where u dont have enough for all of them. (but can just reset)

[obtuse chasm]

Just my opinion, but I feel like anytime someone brings up Warframe it starts to invalidate their entire argument, not necessarily saying your wrong

[vast sky]

Theres dozens of other games that do something similar and wf wasnt the first i only compare it cause its also technically a hero based looter shooter

Im not saying "make the game wf omegalul" i only suggested it cause

1 we already had basically this system in the alpha

2 itd be hard to integrate destiny building cause we have no armor slots or exotics that change how you play

The artifact system in the alpha was 40x better than what we have now and most alpha players agree on that

[obtuse chasm]

Again not disagreeing, but Warframe wasn’t always the game it is today

With the feedback we’ve been getting from the devs as long as they start back up advertising and continue to respond to our feedback I can see the game changing for the better

Things like that take time just like it did with Warframe

[vast sky]

Correct and thats why i haven't said in any capacity "hey add the 10 years of content like wf has" type of suggestion

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah but the content you’re referring to came after said years is my point

[vast sky]

Most of what i've suggested is Majoritively predicated and old systems this game alr had

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah to an extent, but again, seems like you’re getting pretty defensive and I was never disagreeing with you so imma head out

https://tenor.com/view/peace-disappear-bye-felicia-bye-spectro-gif-4780633

[vast sky]

Build crafting to get to the point it is now took them this long cause they change or add smt every month i feel asking for build crafting depth relative to that example isnt particularly egregious in scale

But maybe im out of touch

[vast sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16258174987336597266

Its an open dialogue gang

[obtuse chasm]

I needed an excuse to bounce I’m at work

[lean ferry]

you didnt like "new character, new artifacts, half of which no one even uses"

?

[vast sky]

No that i absolutely agree with and is absolutely an issue

And i wouldnt even say half i'd say like 80%

[lean ferry]

rampaging pact being bis on half of the roster lmao

[vast sky]

Also there being artifacts they design that have literally never been used- on any character they're so bad

From the START OF THE GAME

[restive ruin]

tbf its designed filler

[visual rain]

idk whats going on here but i think i agree

[restive ruin]

and intro exotics and stuff

[visual rain]

artifacts are lame af

[vast sky]

@visual rain if you wanna know the convo

Start here

[visual rain]

yeah buildcrafting is basically nonexistent in this game tbh

theres like 1 or 2 meta loadouts that you pretty much have to use

[restive ruin]

i think the recent points fills you in basically, it's pretty bad lol

[lean ferry]

tbf it doesnt help that a ton of the artifacts have misleading descriptions lmao

[visual rain]

this wouldnt even be awful if you could consistently keep yourself below 25%

[restive ruin]

i think i used that briefly while afking a couple of the weapon kill triumphs on crotas abyss start encounter lol

[visual rain]

that would go hard with umeko dash reload

[lean ferry]

w slot 4 investment

[brisk mango]

Hey so this may sound like a dumb question but are they removing Elivagar at the end of the season like they did with Crota's End?

Cause I feel Elivagar is involved in the main story of the game

[lean ferry]

has no timer on it when crota did so it's probably safe

[restive ruin]

i cant remember if there is a timer for it, if there isn't then nah itll stay

[brisk mango]

Thank god, I don't have to rush

I feared it would be like Destiny 2 with the Red War storyline all over again

[restive ruin]

seasonal triumph might have some stuff you gotta do in there though, and seasonal quests

[lean ferry]

was hoping to see crota in the prestige rotation

im assuming they werent allowed to perma keep it in the game atp

[restive ruin]

yea, itll probably be like a fun calender return thing in q4

which is dumb tbh

[vast sky]

God it used to be SO MUCH WORSE

[vast sky]

Not that they're not allowed but they need to keep the game under a certain file size so they're rotate playable content

[lean ferry]

sounds familiar

[vast sky]

Tbf thats like the only real "great" technical feat this game has

It is so small relative to how much game there actually is

[lean ferry]

idek how big the game is

[vast sky]

Its only 15g on phone

Like thats insane

Honestly i'd love to see a trade based mmo looter shooter like a cross between poe and destiny where character progression resets every season and you start fresh and can make whacky looter shooter builds like some i listed and it'd work in the gacha model

[lean ferry]

you better be careful saying "progression resets every season"
might rile up the masses

[vast sky]

I mean poe and other seasonal arpgs do that

[visual rain]

yeah resetting each season just makes the game feel pointless

[lean ferry]

see you've already started to

[rotund flame]

Dumping so much materials in emare only for it to reset. Hope we get at least some materials back because it's a lot of lost resources 😭

[bold fog]

wow
this was so worth

[rotund flame]

Yeah I just got 5 and never touched campaign again. It's bad unless your characters are perfectly optimized and t6. Hate how everything is so tanky. Not even cordon 10 was this bad

[bold fog]

v850 of proof netease doesn't play their game
tanky adept missions and "do sub 3min"

[celest robin]

Im curious if they plan to dismantle most these crafting materials at season reset for tokens and other boosts similar to the transition to s3-s4.

That would be crazy

[restive ruin]

I honeslty just skipped the incan cluster/mobius upgrades this season, Im sure a bunch of other people are too

[restive ruin]

highly doubt this tbh

incan tied to character upgrades and mobius for mod upgrades are too important to just reset

[celest robin]

Only thing for sure is the x2 and x3 boosts and they explicitly say in game for just those so I doubt it too but wouldn’t be surprised if it sneaks out too

[restive ruin]

yeah, might just mean emanre specifically gets reset

would genuinely be a complete troll if they reset all mats lol

[lavish carbon]

yeah important but couldn't target farm them before

[restive ruin]

character upgrade mats are too important to reset, it would hurt the average player far too much

[lavish carbon]

they will reset it but I hope costs will decrease

[restive ruin]

emanre for sure gets reset

and different characters give diff auras that much is pretty straightforward

[lavish carbon]

spend ressources won't get refunded if that is what you're asking for

[restive ruin]

It won't yeah

[lavish carbon]

btw you get the same amount of stuff for synthesizing if you play adept 1, don't have to force adept 3 sub 3

it's specifically for those with t6's

and missing out on 30 lumia won't harm you

[celest robin]

Hopefully they reduce the emanare costs in future seasons and/or increase the drop quantities of mats and add more ways to earn mats.

Hate being forced into 1-2 modes for various resources. Should have a small chance for everything across all end game modes at higher difficulties

[rotund flame]

Doesn't adept 3 give more of those ball things for the event? Only reason I'm even playing it. I don't care about the time since i know I'm not getting sub 3 lol

[celest robin]

Yes. Goes 4, 6, 10 from adept 1-3

[bitter estuary]

thats the issue

since it increases by 25 every 3 chests you open

doing adept 1/2 is just not worth it

[brittle zodiac]

they should jsut remove this synthesize exponent thing to be honest

[celest robin]

Most of everything in this game feeling way too grindy even on adept 3 unless I got focusing lens to use.

Even the x2 boosts feel too small. 10-20 artifact essence per chaos sucks

[bitter estuary]

the average player is just not gonna do most content just fine assuming they just came back

[last matrix]

any news today about a port to pc?

[bitter estuary]

ask in the netease survey

in twitter

[last matrix]

what survey

[celest robin]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-brennan-huff-step-brothers-no-not-at-all-gif-16704124883174027526

[last matrix]

do i have to use twitter

[bitter estuary]

oops, basically #social-media

there’s a link that gets you in there

[last matrix]

i cant seem to find it

[celest robin]

Mumu been improving recently. Feels almost as good as a pc port

[last matrix]

yeah but id rather wait for a port

[celest robin]

Do you not use mumu currently?

[bitter estuary]

click on the link it’s a bit hidden it seems

there’s a link that links to “easebar” which is netease’s official survey site

[last matrix]

not at the moment

too much effort going through the trouble of making it work

[restive ruin]

speaking of making it work, does mumuplayer/drising work with updated AMD drivers now?

I want to update them

and this game is nearly at the point where its not enough to justify sitting on old drivers lol

[rotund flame]

Honestly hate that this game does this with everything. If is didn't increase so much it would still be fine. Let's be honest no normal person without a t6 is going to spend all day farming campaign

[celest robin]

It’s pretty straightforward. As easy as downloading steam, epic or bnet.

Native mkb support and graphics auto turn to your system. Basically feels like another launcher like steam or bnet that you use your android/google account with.

[last matrix]

yeah but id have to go bios and turn on virtualization and i dont really wanna be fooling around there

[celest robin]

Virtualization isn’t required for mumu and DR, unless that’s been recently changed.

Just improves performance.

[bitter estuary]

huh

its as simple as pressing f2 or f12 i think? and then set virtualization on

otherwise you really dont need it

[celest robin]

Even if they made a pc port they’d probably have it require TPM 2.0 and secure boot which you’d need to go into the bios to enable potentially @last matrix so might as well get comfortable with the bios sooner rather than later.

[bitter estuary]

did they do the same thing on other titles? lemme check marvel rivals

oh rivals dont require it.... for now

[celest robin]

Idk, that dude just posts the same question and excuses to not try mumu every day. He’s either a bot, troll or someone that needs a little motivating to put in minimal effort

[bitter estuary]

bro has been asking for ages

[bitter estuary]

^^^

[drowsy cypress]

lol never. How thay can port game if dev team dont have resources for just basic things like primitive recolor skins, ai slop lore and new hero training

[sharp talon]

buff super adept mod

[bitter estuary]

chat

imagine doing raids except the resolution is 240p

😂

[heavy mortar]

Ahhaha madness

[sharp talon]

menace above is really hard for some people :\

[bitter estuary]

Ill play later

When tho

Ill ping my pack members too lol

[green depot]

As a New Light player (Day 14), the recent power requirement spikes for seasonal activities feel incredibly punishing. Raising the entry bar while keeping drop rates unrewarding makes the mid-game progression loop stall out completely. Progression from 1–90 is smooth[team level upgrade], but the immediate post-tutorial phase hits a severe wall where the grind required to match inflated power entry requirements does not respect the player's time. Rewards need a massive buff to match these steep difficulty jumps. Its like I need something, but in order to get it I must own that material ... Is this only New Light feeling .. or generic for everyone

[bitter estuary]

Yeah it was brutal for us too lmao dw

Endgame players i mean

[green depot]

I itterally unlocked and played Legendary Campain Adapt 2 .. raising season level to 4, now blocked me from all Adapt mission now

Feels like I can nver reach end game

[bitter estuary]

Adept is hard yeah

They said they will retune stuff at around the end of the season or next season

[green depot]

Adept 2 i cleared already yesterday .. Now can not launch

In between i just updated my season level to 5 from 4

[sharp talon]

anytime

[bitter estuary]

Yeah

I suggest not phasing up because you're early in the game

You don't get much by progressing to the next phase ngl

Unless you really know what to do

[green depot]

hmm .. and How do i get 5 star artifact ? clearing 100 floor in hero also does not seems to be dropping that

[empty kettle]

From phase 4 but the drop rate for 5 stars 🌟 is low on phase 4

[green depot]

Any easy way to get "Occultation essaence " ?

To push a 4star to 5 star

[empty kettle]

The seasonal shop and expanse

Not worth it unless you have a good artifact

[green depot]

expanse seems too hard as of this moment and seasonal shop I got all and upgraded 1 already

[green depot]

Got it

[neon pebble]

Its a slow process, soon as you can do Cordons come in here. We can carry you and get a boost on your emanare start

I am really hoping no more phases, I hate this gime gated crap

[sharp talon]

2 more phases until no more phases for a bit XD

[neon pebble]

Better be no phases in S5 😭

[dusty spire]

I have to Sunday grind because I’ve not played as much to collect certain mats for emnare :/

[neon pebble]

Im 2 weeks behind on emanare lol, felt fr

[dusty spire]

Grind Morgan to then upgrade emnare to then push expanse to then get nothing at the end of season

[neon pebble]

I do shifty gates and chaos on top of morgran

[dusty spire]

Is that better to run sg?

Really don’t want to put to much into today’s grind 😮‍💨

[neon pebble]

Just for mental health, gives me a little break from monotonous grind. If my chaos modifiers suck I go to morgrans, when bored I do SG and still get resources

[sharp talon]

im scared of the resources needed for phase 10

[neon pebble]

Dont say it

[dusty spire]

:/ also notice the line extension from the hero’s without the aura currently

[sharp talon]

i havent needed to grind for the emanare . but if we are unlocking all the upgrades its gonna be insane

[neon pebble]

Im sitting on enough stardust to hit lvl 9 emanare tomorrow

[dusty spire]

Imagine last week something opens up

[neon pebble]

Morgrans event in few days

[neon pebble]

An actual story mode?

[dusty spire]

Nah just another upgrade

[green depot]

Thanks .. Let me get little bit up in power .. eyeing like 85k

[sharp talon]

damn i checked i have 4k surge dust idk how

[dusty spire]

Might be nothing could be something

[bitter estuary]

morgrans prey omg balls

time to bring ikora balls

[golden spade]

And how long will phase 10 last until reset?

🫠 . I don't want to grind

[sharp talon]

i think 3 weeks

[empty kettle]

I've noticed those lines leading somewhere

[river vigil]

its finally here

[sharp talon]

they need to make sg matches shorter

[bitter estuary]

@sharp talon im queueing balls

juan

[drowsy cypress]

dont worry, devs extend s4 1-2 mounth more

[wide dagger]

Why r ppl not playing cordon wth

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-gif-27097219

[polar summit]

It’s a 3 week cycle, usually ppl do 1-10 on first week, for 11+ ppl do pre made fireteams

[drowsy cypress]

u need good pack to play 11+

[polar summit]

You just need 2 more to play with u lol

[wide dagger]

Couldn’t find ppl to do 7th stage for week

[naive ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-hiiii-oh-hi-hi-hello-lizard-gif-5877185002260097302

[pulsar anvil]

but ur short

[bitter estuary]

you balls

[pulsar anvil]

true!

[bitter estuary]

live laugh love balls

[neon pebble]

Love balls?

[neon pebble]

NA?

[wide dagger]

EMEA

[sharp talon]

ur short too then

same height

XD

[pulsar anvil]

MAN

f my chud life

[bitter estuary]

how tall are y’all

anyways

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-cat-gif-12220547554416499146

[empty kettle]

Almost as tall as a door frame

[drowsy cypress]

Funny if 80% will be true🤣

[red geyser]

Matchmaking is broken

[wide dagger]

467

67

Six seven

https://tenor.com/view/flight-gif-15944648704967844559

[sharp talon]

wtf

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/friend-spongebob-smile-want-gif-23862635

[bitter estuary]

6,7% nice

[restive ruin]

Honestly, it is probably in your best interest to get to phase 5, the power requirements suck, but you can farm 5 star artifacts very easily on spike shell even if underlight level.

Slotting up with 5 star exotics that match substats will open up the game for you alot at the very least.

impressed you are honestly keeping it pushing though, good luck

[neon pebble]

Mobile/PC separate lobbies. Also premades can mess with the algorithm if no other premades are queued

Sometimes we had to queue in duos to get it to work

[red geyser]

They are on mobile as you can see from the picture I sent. I joined a pre made with matchmaking in the raid before, does this apply to pvp only ?

[frail coyote]

Iron bar emea 8/12

[empty kettle]

The third expansion will surely fix some issues with DR

[neon pebble]

I just know premades make things goofy

[river vigil]

pvp modes are separated by input. touch screen will only match touch screen, and controllers/emulators can match each other. pve does not have that matchmaking restriction

[bitter estuary]

mobile or pc

[bitter estuary]

no its just mobile with mobile and pc with pc

not input

[river vigil]

at one point they said mobile with controller wouldnt be matched with touch screen

[pulsar anvil]

ur an input

[river vigil]

I dont know if they changed it or not

[bitter estuary]

🥺

[bitter estuary]

its been like that for ages

[frail coyote]

Mobile

[bitter estuary]

ok

[frail coyote]

9/12 got into 2 games

[frail coyote]

Nah still matches mobile with mobile no matter with controller

[river vigil]

thats tough

granted thats probably best unless they can bring players back

[frail coyote]

I miss launch days, shifting and iron bar was crazy

[thorny frost]

I don’t think they could separate that. I can switch to touch by tapping the screen when my controller is attached or hit the PS button to connect the controller.

[dusty spire]

Just open the flood gate at this point I don’t mind who I’m matched with

[sharp talon]

they could kick u if u switch input

i tried queuing with my phone once and going on pc just to see. and it kicked me 🤣

[dusty spire]

Accidental touch would screw so many lol

[indigo solar]

Yes

Lemme humble pc players

[dusty spire]

Facts

[empty kettle]

NETEASE!!! GIVE US MYTHIC SENTINEL WOLF AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!

[cyan tide]

Well yeah, because you logged in on a different device. I don't think there's any game that lets you start a session on 2 devices at the same time, they always close the first one

[sharp talon]

yea my pc is my second session and it resumes there but it kicked me out of the iron bar game

for switching devices compared to what u queued with and warned me

resuming an activity usually works from mobile to pc other than that

my phone ofc got kicked out of the game but i wasnt talking about that

[last matrix]

Lord our heavenly father please give us a port to pc

[tawny moon]

And Switch 2. PS5 be cool too. Xbox ya we ok with out that lol.

[last matrix]

honestly we could go without it being on the switch 2 as well

[bitter estuary]

balls

[dry hare]

i need cordon 10+ runs , anyone ?🥺

[empty kettle]

What expansion do you guys think Sentinel Wolf will appear in? Expansion 2, expansion 3 or expansion 4 (if we even reach this one)

[lavish carbon]

you can queue for pvp on mobile and switch to pc after you're in the lobby and vice versa

[twilit thistle]

Doesn’t work. It will kick you if you go from mobile to pc. It won’t if it’s the other way around, surprisingly

[lavish carbon]

ah well haven't actually tried it that's sad

but a pack member was struggling to find a lobby and I told him to do that, he didn't tell me he got kicked tho

maybe didn't try either 😂

[green depot]

This 21900 coming from what ? 88320 i assume with good artifact and Relic Ability i assume

[sharp talon]

emanare

[green depot]

ok .. So I have upgraded the one to |v| 5 core node .. But only showing 1400 for me

[sharp talon]

max is at lvl 8 rn

all the nodes unlocked and upgraded, exotic gems on all slots to get that high

[green depot]

ok .. Got it .. That needs lots of resources

And "key Insight", in emerence 1st 10 level farming will give me ?

[indigo solar]

This got patched a couple months ago

[twilit thistle]

ib exclusive?

[bitter estuary]

yeah

i tried it

it doesn't work

which sucks ngl

why can't they combine queues

[indigo solar]

Maybe sg too

[twilit thistle]

one time i was running with @sudden carbon and i accidentally opened my phone, which had rising on it. That transferred me in sg from pc -> mobile. Then, when I tried to undo it, insta kick from the match.

[sudden carbon]

Off topic but about a week ago when I did sg I somehow had a team of 4! Dunno how that happened but I have a screenshot lol

[twilit thistle]

Thats crazy, im not surprised tho bc its so poorly maintained. You can view players who hide their info for example, and even see that the top players are not playing the game.

[opal shuttle]

Look at the leaders in the game atm scores are like 6/3 5/3 ext the top 10 just run games verse bots, bad bad scores

[twilit thistle]

ngl ive been having bad scores cuz i keep getting close range support T_T . Been trying for like 70+ matches to hit 1,000+ data deposited solo, with bots as my teammates. Closest i got was in the high 800s iirc. I think they should have thier scores wiped down to 3000 for doing it.

Imo anything below 300 is clearly going to be afk farming tho, unless its a single instance of it. These arent players who just had one match, often its hundreds.

[opal shuttle]

Why can’t I post a pic in here?

[bitter estuary]

talk more

[twilit thistle]

gotta chat more, u level up fast

[opal shuttle]

Ahh I rarely use this server

I just sent it to you Lucy 🤣

[halcyon moss]

wait why can you buy crota's end raid age of triumph armor?

can you earn it from the raid?

[river vigil]

I do sub 300 games a lot when I'm on tariq

[opal shuttle]

No

[stiff rapids]

Alguien habla español??

[neon pebble]

Get it

[twilit thistle]

light echos

[indigo solar]

I mean I only dunk like 100-200 a game, it's all bots so I just prioritise the nuclei and dunk whenever I'm full and passing a depositor

[twilit thistle]

r u a top 25 player tho

They usually have close to or far above 200 matches in a season

[indigo solar]

Point is that it's not afk farming

There's just no need for more data

Why bother if it doesn't change rewards or rank

[twilit thistle]

remove the title

[indigo solar]

No need

Every title is basically worthless anyways besides challenge mode raid

[twilit thistle]

Its unfair for them to get something ontop of rewards like

Its a mockery of the gamemode itself

[indigo solar]

You just need to stop thinking of the title as meaning "this player is extremely good"

Because it has never meant that

[twilit thistle]

i see it and think "this means i like shifting gates", purely just to express myself.

@indigo solar .

certianly dont see me going for the other silly titles

[twilit thistle]

Ngl this title tells me someone is good tho

This is fun. I made a hh ragequit.

Tbh when i want to see who is a good player i also frequent the ggg leaderboards.

[next fern]

what rolls on the adept sniper? never seen someone upgrade that one

[frank plinth]

Hola

[twilit thistle]

Only has 2 options, i went with the thumbs

[next fern]

fair

[twilit thistle]

if triple tap had it, i would be running that tho

it breaks void sheilds thats about it

[lean ferry]

how fast does the sniper break the big mino in this

[twilit thistle]

Not very fast, probably the same time as crimson. It just takes health when it breaks it, and i can swap to crimson. More efficent at killing.

[lean ferry]

i want to get like 2:15 on the mission but i think i need the void sniper to kill that idiot faster

a perfect run would be like 2:17 as is

[twilit thistle]

ngl i just saw this and its value just went up by 100% for me

[lean ferry]

i dont think i'd use it on anything other than the big guy and boss tho

[wide dagger]

All this and still can’t finish expanse 59

[cursive depot]

gotta lock in

[wide dagger]

Tried soo many times

[twilit thistle]

I think my new strat is going to be waiting to claim my rewards. Its kinda nice that i can actually count how many times i played an activity.

[vast sky]

This glitch has existed since the alpha

[lean ferry]

so did the old prefect

[red geyser]

I see

[bitter estuary]

balls

thanks to whoever found it first balls

[cursive depot]

first ive seen it, not someone that really looks into unstuck tho

[desert scaffold]

Amazing

[dusty spire]

We are soooo overdue a titan lol

Like over due diffrently

[worn musk]

Goat balls

[bitter estuary]

qworpballs

[pulsar anvil]

balls?

balls.

[bitter estuary]

exactly

[empty kettle]

Hopefully a mythic arc thundercrash titan and not fist of havoc

[dusty spire]

Something is expected and I think soon

Just look at the limited pool

1 titan 😂

Out of 7 releases we have 1 Titan

[eternal sparrow]

can i play this game free to play all the way through?

[bitter estuary]

yeah

and you can unlock all characters just fine without pulling on the banners

[eternal sparrow]

so where is hte pay part in this game? dlc like d2?