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[sweet forge]

nah will have vex lasers

[twilit thistle]

Nobody asked for pve gambit

[stark forge]

game is not fun anymore outside bots pvp and raids atp

[bitter estuary]

BALLS and vex lasers how about that

[abstract cedar]

just waking up and seeing this. first person who said hi back to me in over 3months of me posting that gif periodically 🥲

someone donate me gwynn shards please and thank you 🥲🥲 jk jk jk kk

[vast arch]

30 chests

[vast arch]

I would have replied if it wasn't 1am when you sent it lol

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-adventure-time-lemongrab-freakout-armflail-gif-5515437

[river vigil]

I could be farming chaos on tariq but these mods refuse to drop

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-yeah-yes-correct-sad-gif-8461573805885939916

[indigo solar]

Doubt

[river vigil]

the crazy thing is the queues got worse the later it got, at reset I was getting clears without wipes

[indigo solar]

Don't forget the plate mechanic

[empty kettle]

My beloved nightmare containment will never see daylight again 🥀

[stark forge]

i gladly take more estela over 2% dps umeko

[bitter estuary]

Must hold balls in the correct plate while having a light buff and also be effected by a ticking time bomb 💜

[indigo solar]

While someone on the other side uses a scorch cannon to blow up the correct symbol, that appears once you're on the plate

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/vex-milk-destiny-destiny2-destiny-raid-raider-nation-gif-23523540

[bitter estuary]

No you need to be enlightened to use the scorch cannon, and you need to get another scorch canon because it only has 1 clip

[empty kettle]

Average destiny experience when you play with that part of the playerbase that shouldn't be in a raid

[naive ingot]

I need like 100 more to A5... Can dream

[stark forge]

they should add barrage modifier to raids

[naive ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny2-spinning-gif-24943727

[bitter estuary]

Balls

[sweet forge]

16 mins?

[oblique geyser]

going one phase with random is something on gladsheim prestige raid🫠

[river vigil]

its even harder if you queue into me

[indigo solar]

Real ones know the next raid boss will involve dissimilating catalysts and destroying confluxes

[bitter estuary]

Balls

[twilit thistle]

The psion that stands up here 😭

[empty kettle]

Upside down L shape

https://tenor.com/view/waluigi-meme-mario-strikers-vince-gif-25801515

[twilit thistle]

Got some bad news for the solar comet enthusiasts. 😭

[vast arch]

Mine was arc comets, shockwave, melee comets

[twilit thistle]

🤔 appears my checking to see if this was a defense day in shadowshaper strat was patched

[twilit thistle]

I dont think comets go off of your modifiers is the issue. You can boost the dmg of some of the gifts.

Think it goes off the scaling itself

At least the burn from the solar comets does

[river vigil]

yep thats me, and he'll probably be there for 2 more hours XD
doing nothing while I contemplate queueing prestige

[bitter estuary]

Balls

[narrow trail]

I feel that, there's probably some banger adept mods but that grind is rough for 2% only drop rate. Surprised they don't at least have a weekly where's it's a higher percentage for a few runs. But i suppose it gives people something to grind for if they have everything else they need

[river vigil]

I'm fine with the 2% drop rate its the failed runs that slowly add up depending on when the wipe is

[bold fog]

money money money

[signal spade]

Not pictured is the time it summons two cursed thrall

[indigo solar]

If only it had happened vs a real player instead of a bot

[narrow trail]

Yeah good point, would get frusterating after awhile wiping to stupid stuff over and over

[twilit thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-23428142

[river vigil]

oh it doubles :T

[bold fog]

lol you know it

rampaging wtf?

[twilit thistle]

.

[indigo solar]

Resets monthly

[river vigil]

I thought it would increase by 5 isntead of instantly doubling

[twilit thistle]

How many did it take

Also.

[oak kettle]

post buff is it worth investing tlord for estella or not?

note that i don't have enough furies copies for a max out of it and likely won't for a while as other bp weps have prio

so it's more of a question of stick with Gallows or move to Tlord or Heir

[cursive depot]

imo heir

[winged quail]

I agree with Slothh

[rotund flame]

Heir never lets me down. Feel like the other lmgs fire too slow

[twilit thistle]

Tatara gaze not being able to be adept is truly a crime against all efrideet mains

[cursive depot]

it doesnt have any double perk upgrades?

[twilit thistle]

no, perk 2 is all single perk.

Just wait till u get to 99 rapid.

[oak kettle]

that's why i was thinking post buff tlord might be good now

[indigo solar]

Furies

[oak kettle]

cus it no longer just dies when you cast an ability

[indigo solar]

Idk I haven't done any

I have yet to dismantle my mods

[cursive depot]

I mean its just 100 power

[indigo solar]

I probably should

[oak kettle]

i did mention i'm unlikely to get that any time soon

[cursive depot]

shouldnt make that big a difference

not being adept

[indigo solar]

Furies

[twilit thistle]

do i have to beg u to figure out how to beat 99 rapid.

[rotund flame]

I'm going to wait till some expert's test the weapon out. I'm too low on materials to make the switch

[indigo solar]

I'm on like 40 rapid

I just finished maxing emanare for phase 7 like 30 minutes ago

[twilit thistle]

It may require math.

[indigo solar]

I have one set of lv90 artifacts

No adept guns

[twilit thistle]

And undiscovered tech.

[oak kettle]

it takes 3 seconds for the rpm buff to die out so it's essentially at full speed for the entire reserves (it self reloads enough to never need a manual reload)

even if you have to cast dragon mid mag it still keeps going full throttle

[twilit thistle]

In order to beat it, i would have to figure out an efficent way of reducing the rng. I can get it close, but the ai of them is just too unpredictable.

[cursive depot]

gotta lock in

[rotund flame]

I think they see you lol bro on the bottom is ready to light you up

[twilit thistle]

I had two litterally just sitting there staring at me. But two always randomly move in unpredictable patters and that spot is just too fragile. I have to get them to share the dmg.

[vast sky]

Chat is it morally wrong to name a cat with wobbly syndrome after a washer machine

[dry hare]

peeps , what is night after night god roll ?

[signal spade]

polymer and tmo is good so is polymer and whatever the new ones called

just whatever youre trying to do realistically

tmo better for shinkas new perk better for raw damage i think

[oblique geyser]

which char you try 99 on ?

[twilit thistle]

Think im gonna need a tiny upgrade or something to beat it.

[oblique geyser]

Im not sure efri can finish it rn tbh

What was your best ?
When i tried on efri, i managed to stun shinka once but didnt have dps to finish it off and there was still captain alive

Managed to finish it on ikora though with 10 wardcliff shoot🤣

[narrow trail]

How is wardcliff?

[oblique geyser]

Terrible 🫠

[narrow trail]

Even more impressive that you beat 100 with it then

[oblique geyser]

I havent béat 100 yet

[signal spade]

ill wait til monday and do 100 on estela with the thunderlord copium

my summons will surely not get 1 hit meleed

[oblique geyser]

Reached it 4 hours ago, got a 1% wipe but my boss bugged when i relogged and he looks harder now lol

Its the big eye that laser you and cast a debuff on you

[oblique geyser]

Dang if you béat 99 on estela next week, gg 🔥

[narrow trail]

Sorry about that, misread, but you're very close. A lot of you are pretty insane getting to 95+

[signal spade]

ill try it with more power next week i still need my last thunderlord to drop

[indigo solar]

Estela cheese doesn't work for him anymore right

[signal spade]

keep getting the stinky old prefect for some reason

[oblique geyser]

Its getting frustrating tbh.. every expanse rn are rng based to be honest, need the boss or mobs to have good position etc

[indigo solar]

Because you're not supposed to be able to beat it right now

[oblique geyser]

Which cheese ?

[narrow trail]

I believe it, after hitting 92 ish i'm like nope, I dont' have the patience for this lol

[signal spade]

the fact you can get runs on the fallen boss where the servitor just does nothing is hilarious

[indigo solar]

Super could target him even after he teleports as long as you hit him with misfortune

[bold fog]

what are yall ning artifacts

[signal spade]

rampaging nimble i think

valiant not nimble

[oblique geyser]

Y this.. imagine at the end with 2 servitors that sometime full shield or sometime go yolo at 20km from boss lol

[signal spade]

yea the other one that annoyed me was when i cleared like 83 impact the shinka sometimes just walks to the middle of the map for no reason

[oblique geyser]

Ah y its not this one, its the map with big orbs you have to destroy

[cursive depot]

this is an elite stage

[signal spade]

other times he stands up top doing literally nothing

[cursive depot]

not boss

[indigo solar]

Ohhh wait

[cursive depot]

should be the one with 2 orb / 1 orb / 3 orb

[indigo solar]

The one with the ramp at the start

[oblique geyser]

Exactly

[indigo solar]

Yeah

[signal spade]

yea

[indigo solar]

iirc there are some cheese spots, ask @twilit thistle

[signal spade]

estela should be good on it if i can get there anyway cause you can just hide in the back and let your dudes do all the work

[narrow trail]

Exactly, don't have to worry about the servitors spawning unless you go too far up

[cursive depot]

might have to level thunderlord to give it a try myself

[oblique geyser]

Someone may know but the boss wasnt debuffing me and after 14/15 try i had the debuff on every laser hit i received, you know why it changed ? It was easier before ahah

[signal spade]

maybe ill build some cooked artifacts

like bulwark + the summon lifesteal one

[indigo solar]

Also if the servitors never see you they never make enemies immune

[signal spade]

and just pray i live

[narrow trail]

Crazy I didn't know that

[oblique geyser]

Debuff + ikora is terrible 😮‍💨

Pretty sure 113 will die next week also 👍

It could die this week with some.buff but i dont wanna reset my run

[signal spade]

theres gonna be a week where the floodgates open and we get like 5k power from emanare or something

ppl will be walkin around close to 120

[oblique geyser]

How much we can get next week?

[signal spade]

its like 1k total per upgrade tier rn i think 20ish nodes x 50 points per up

[indigo solar]

Unknown, since the outer ring has 10 levels and we don't know how it's split between 9 and 10

[signal spade]

but if they ever let us get to 10/10 its like another 7k power or something

[oblique geyser]

I need like 5/6 more arbalest shot so the few upgrade might be enough next week

[narrow trail]

Could be wrong but I think we get 1500

[signal spade]

per week?

im not logged in im making stuff up

its easy enough to do the math though

[narrow trail]

30 nodes it looks like we can upgrade

[signal spade]

yea thats a lot so 30x50 = 1500 x 8 whatever is left is 12k more power

we'll be like 125k lmao

its not 30 its 21 it looks like

[narrow trail]

Sorry about that, thought I checked awhile ago after reset but I must have miscounted

[signal spade]

7x8x50

x3 my brains not working

8400 power still left to get

[narrow trail]

Haha all good it's friday

[signal spade]

so i guess we'll be like 122-123k total and then theyll reset the emanare and everyone will wonder where their mats went but they were REALLY strong for 3 weeks

[narrow trail]

I just checked it looks like when we hit 9 the nodes closest to the outer ring where' there's 4 nodes. we can upgrade 3 out of 4 of them. So it will be 10 per side

[signal spade]

lmao wtf are those 3 nodes

those only go up once it looks like so its another 450 on top of the 8400

[narrow trail]

ahh okay, sorry brain is dead at the end of the day lol

[twilit thistle]

?

[twilit thistle]

Did u try the solar comets?

[oblique geyser]

When i was stuck on 93 a while back y but comet werent good from my perspective

I wonder what we ll have after phase 10

[twilit thistle]

I think its going to be a race to see who has the most resources ngl. I am hesitant to upgrade an adept mod bc of this

2/10 and there are 7 of these

I mean im not worried about that side but the weapon side i am locked in on

[bold fog]

raise your hand if you wanted this

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/you-serious-are-you-serious-j-jonah-jameson-jk-simmons-spiderman-gif-1796285034125157331

[indigo solar]

Clusters and fibres are plentiful now

One cluster every 15 minutes or so

[twilit thistle]

Nobody likes legacy.

Wonder if they will ever nerf ikora. Im getting kinda annoyed with the ikoras who think they are a top player ragequitting the second they dont get what they want.

Or i guess at least fix it, so that ikora works as intended.

[crisp shuttle]

I agree

[twilit thistle]

I mean its like ning but worse.

Cuz ikora isnt just using a good kit, its an exploit that only works for t6 ikoras.

[neon pebble]

Let em fall when ikora is replaced

[twilit thistle]

thats what i mean, the real ones like @ashen swift wont be impacted by that

[neon pebble]

Technically it doesn't state how many explosions are supposed to happen

Could be intentional

[twilit thistle]

I disagree.

[crisp shuttle]

All of them

[twilit thistle]

They never intended her to be that strong. If they did, we would see her banner running now, and tariq would have been in her place.

[neon pebble]

That's ok, it's a maybe not a hill

[ashen swift]

ikora player = ego.

like me. big ego.

[twilit thistle]

I dont see any of them outdoing u.

[neon pebble]

I don't play ikora how i get a big one?

[ashen swift]

trap

[crisp shuttle]

Wolf main = delusional and stubborn
Me = delusional and stubborn

[neon pebble]

That was a trap

[ashen swift]

tsunamy 🐐

[ashen swift]

💯

[neon pebble]

Everyone in goop

[bold fog]

not rly
just another low rate grind

[indigo solar]

Imagine clan hopping

[neon pebble]

I get kicked

[indigo solar]

I've been in the same clan longer than anyone on the NA server

[neon pebble]

Gotta play 🫣

[twilit thistle]

❤️‍🔥

[eternal rain]

[fluid bluff]

Someone say goop!

[twilit thistle]

😭

[twilit thistle]

atp i rlly dont even think about it, none of those ppl would help me anyways is what i learned.

[signal spade]

Social features in this game are awful

Packs are cool but the whole chat interface is insanely terrible idk how it sorts anything

[twilit thistle]

flame was the first iirc that invited me, i think? I mean there are ppl who spam invites but im not the type to beg.

And nobody rlly does anything but use u

[signal spade]

My experience with destiny is if you can get humans with a pulse you can clear pretty much anything

But I also view packs in this game as a massive miss tbh the new features are cool but idk what the point of the den is there's no reason to ever be there it's sad

Best thing it's for is when your teammate dies in cordon and you get a fat overshield

[neon pebble]

Packs are packs. We only in them because they have free rewards and a lfg channel

[bold fog]

speaking of
anyone have a huge clan with open space?

[river vigil]

I dont even get all the free rewards from mine, I'm just in it because I'm lazy at this point

[signal spade]

Ya you can make your own lfg channels which is useful but most ppl wind up solo grinding anyway

Just join ix and don't log out for more than 2 weeks straight amen

[river vigil]

not adjudicator mag

9 more and I'll have 1 of each adept mod at max power at least

[twilit thistle]

I mean in actual destiny it was way better. U didnt have to ask.

@indigo solar My helhest needs bubble wrap

[indigo solar]

What

D2 MM and LFG were awful

[twilit thistle]

clan i was in didnt use lfg.

[twilit thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/wrap-derp-dog-struggling-bubblewrap-gif-4573065

[hard forge]

Hey, does unrelenting shell work for Rossi?

[signal spade]

Should work on bows that'd be weird if it didn't

[twilit thistle]

Its to a point where i am making a blacklist of players I should deny q's for @river vigil

[vast arch]

Why are you blacklisting Stephen

[river vigil]

[rotund flame]

Same, dude helped me out last cordon. Joining random invites is always a 50/50 if they are going to be decent or not

[twilit thistle]

not present on the list , i was just in a match with him tho and someone else got blacklisted. Im not blacklisting based on skill, but i am for acting out, and doing stupid stuff that blows runs.

[river vigil]

Don't be mistaken i do run it down

[twilit thistle]

Someone who doesn't point out that they are going to also pick umeko, resulting in 2 umekos, and instead brags about it. Not a person i want to run that again with.

I mean if theres no big raid boss idc but for days like this when I am sitting in 10+ min q's, gonna have to keep a small list

[river vigil]

That's ai

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-12901943281765003956

[visual rain]

when's the wedding?

[twilit thistle]

You havent proposed

[thorny frost]

Ascendant clusters are actually pretty plentiful now if you do cordon. We now can get 60 an act without shops. Möbius clusters are also more plentiful than previous seasons, 30-35 a week so 1.5 non adept mods maxed a week. This is why I recommend skipping the last upgrade of Emanare nodes, it is a lot faster to upgrade things and then you can work on finishing Emanare.

[narrow trail]

For most cases that’s probably true but I’ve met some pretty cool people in my pack, we chat all the time about life and the game. It is rare though, most people just join for the rewards but you can find some people to call friends in here

[bold fog]

what cosmetic is this

[river vigil]

dp and princess carry decals

[bold fog]

?

[river vigil]

they put these 2 upgraded decals over the skin

it looks like they put 2 of the providence flawless decals and one of the princess carry on the midnight gunslinger skin

but I could be wrong

[indigo jewel]

Does anyone know if the Packs & Dragon triumph count if you beat Elivagar with 1 pack member or does it need to be all pack members only?

[river vigil]

can you post a screenshot of it again

if it doesnt specify needing a full fireteam 1 will be fine

[indigo solar]

No, spread weapons only

[neon pebble]

I feel ya, game population down so much almost all my friends quit from S1. Sadly packs also die along the way as leaders/players quit. You can find cool people to chat with but theyd prob still chat with you even if you werent in their pack 😜 hard part is finding a pack that is end game and leaderboard oriented, need like minded people that want to farm and drive

[bold fog]

oh it took 2
i love that 2nd one but i couldnt figure out how it's full body
and lmao princess decal is real?!

[river vigil]

yeah it was from an event

[junior knoll]

fr fidind squads to run the new raid is a pain bc of no bots

[indigo solar]

Just played my first Tariq PvP

Crazy how he counters almost everyone but gets hard countered by ikora and Maru

[river vigil]

aoe destroys him

ikora bots in shifting gates are his biggest op

[narrow trail]

Very true, people come and go, definitely too often

[bold fog]

when is condensate trade thing

oh wait it's live

[river vigil]

at least in Maryland tariq is better than ikora time to shout the propaganda from the rooftops

[twilit thistle]

if that t6 bug was fixed i bet theyd sell alot more tariq's

[glossy cape]

t6 tariq bug?

[rotund flame]

Manged to 1 phase the part 3 of the new raid.... Only took 5 t6 characters lol

Like Bru I shouldn't need the a team like this for a regular clear 🗿

[twilit thistle]

lmao a t6 ikora hasnt figured out the bug i see.

[rotund flame]

Also how do you prevent yourself self from being flung away when the boss sucks you in? I feel like everyone figured it out but me 😭

[twilit thistle]

I think there might be some issues with the ads that are causing some of the issues, i know theres one spot that if u give a group of ads line of sight, all of them will instantly kill u. Like u dont even have a chance to react

[rotund flame]

Oh for sure, had a moment where one of our guys couldn't pick up the ball. This season has so many bugs lol

[thorny frost]

Wait you get the ball pick up bug even during the first phase? I have only seen it if you miss getting the 1 phase

[rotund flame]

Yeah they were saying it in chat during the 2nd round when it switched sides

[thorny frost]

I wonder what causes it. I have been hit by it but it was only when I did the ball in the first phase; then tried to do it in the second again.

[rotund flame]

For me it's hard to tell since that raid for me either goes extremely well or extremely bad . Hard to judge if it's the players or the game

[vast arch]

Stop trying to get them to nerf my only T6 😭

[rotund flame]

Early on today in that same raid with different people when I got teleported inside and pinged that the symbol doesn't match the random put it in and got me killed lol

[thorny frost]

I had one person pinged that it did match then died when I slammed it XD.

[signal spade]

hm

[neon pebble]

You didnt know Tariq is bugged?

[thorny frost]

I also now save my super for part way through the dps phase. Last stand mode always seem to trigger at a threshold it feels (as long as you are semi fast enough) so dps at the end of the boss seems most important.

[neon pebble]

Dem jaren aint t6 like your tariq and they got eternal ret on not thermo

4star wpns at that

[neon pebble]

Not crazy at all, his barrier is very small so aoe splash around it like Kabr barriers and Rossi super wall. The shield itself has no visual cue and most times when shooting him while its up it wont register anything because you shot a barrier with no visible health bar

[lean ferry]

tariq is my goat

[neon pebble]

I like Tariqs BP weapons fr

Manifest Destiny

[twilit thistle]

Usually the nerf is after the banner ends unless it’s a weapon

[neon pebble]

Its gonna be opposite. Ikora will be "bug nerfed" while tariq is "bug buffed" neither were actually bugs just an excuse to nerf one and buff the other

"We found a bug that made Tariq do 50% less dmg than intended"

[twilit thistle]

All I’m saying,

If they actually do it, it shows us there are competent devs still.

It’s a win if they do anything.

[neon pebble]

They said something the other day in some post, it gave me back faith

They are trying

[signal spade]

they have to do something about ikora at some point

[neon pebble]

Thats what you guys said about Ning and HH, all they did was add a new better character

[signal spade]

nah

you cant make a better character than one that does infinite damage based on framerate

doin like the damage of 5 ppl combined in 5 seconds with no ammo requirement

[neon pebble]

Thats the new standard

It matches the new 120k recco power content

[signal spade]

true next character will come equipped with 3 summons that all shoot ikora beams

[neon pebble]

Estella buff?

[signal spade]

then after that we'll get the character that tcrashes the entire room at once

[crisp shuttle]

Me tryna fight the boss but then they get 1 shot

[signal spade]

also true

[crisp shuttle]

By ikora

[signal spade]

theyll ignore ikora and put an icd on enemies taking damage from void detonators instead

[crisp shuttle]

🥲

[signal spade]

pray

[neon pebble]

They already shadow tweak things now with no patch notes

[signal spade]

theyll prob wait til s5 the damage is already done

[neon pebble]

Gwynns void orbs and ability changed up randomly after maintenance last week iirc?

It wont shoot more than 6 orbs now

[signal spade]

it was doin that before idk why

shes also cooked and gets a bug where the game says you have cadenza x4

but when you swap weapons it goes to 0 and nothing reloads very cool

[neon pebble]

She also may have one that gives her more void orbs than she actually makes and lets her spam sig ability

[signal spade]

yea ive seen a 10 and a 12 next to my crosshair

but its also stupid that it caps out at 6 when theres like 10 next to you

even if she could throw 20 at once itd still do less damage than an ikora beam

[crisp shuttle]

I’ve had 12

[neon pebble]

Only 6 shoot now, not all 10 like it used to. Its better now because the leftover 4 go right into recharging that sig for a 2nd use right after

Ability spam and no cooldown reduction wasted. It was a buff/gain

[signal spade]

its net neutral if they wanna do something like that she needs charges or something

[crisp shuttle]

Fair

[signal spade]

cause id rather 1 tap a shinka than spam the button 2-3x to do the same total

[crisp shuttle]

2 charges instead would’ve been better probably

[signal spade]

but i get the idea

[neon pebble]

Getting to use my sig an extra time is not net neutral

[signal spade]

it is if youre doing the same total damage but slower

[neon pebble]

Its not same total? I literally got an extra ability use

1 sig + 10 orbs
2 sig + 10 orbs
Which has more?

[signal spade]

the spin is like 1/20th of the damage though your dps is just lower youre shooting your gun less

you could be making another 10 orbs but instead youre spinning

9 times out of 10 youre just killing a shinka slower

[neon pebble]

Gwynn weapons do damage? She makes 3 orbs per full SA clip. I can get 3 free orbs from hitting 2 targets with a spin

I went from no orbs all the time to orb spam central

[rotund flame]

Don't give me hope 😭

[signal spade]

yea it has benefits im just sayin its not always good and id rather be able to nuke a shinka 100-0 then do 100-50-0

[neon pebble]

Well boss I wont lie to you, if 4 orbs did 50% of boss HP then Gwynn would be meta

Those few orbs make no diff, she is hard capped at 14 orbs in an area iirc

[signal spade]

yea i mean she sucks either way and cant even clear the expanse made for her better than a tariq using solar guns

its sad

[neon pebble]

Uhhh only because shinka got nerfed for Tariq SA to do something. Insta dev buff to sell him since hairkora already owns spread

I also have not expanse in 3 weeks

[signal spade]

she cant burst a shinka better than tariq rn she tickles

maybe if shes a1ed ill get it eventually

but i was able to clear 80-90 expanse much easier with c6 tariq than c6 gwynn and gwynns weapons are just better upgraded and whatever else

it was literally void shackles too

[neon pebble]

Does Tariq SA break shinka in cordon11? Jaren shotty was havin a rough time with em

[signal spade]

not in any good amount of time

its like 3 full mags

[oak kettle]

so uh, turns out this bug has nothing to do with Horror's metabolism's weird mag boost

[twilit thistle]

Wat

I know better than this

[crisp shuttle]

Pffft that’s nothing

[twilit thistle]

But I don’t remember what I did

[neon pebble]

Then tariq buff is expanse only? Cuz in cordon gwynn rocks a shotty

[oak kettle]

Ouroborea mag just literally gives you the icebreaker effect if you slap it on a weapon and hold it out after firing

[twilit thistle]

Try one of the abilities on a shinka

[signal spade]

i was talkin about expanse for the purposes of whatveer im sayin

[twilit thistle]

Then try to break

[oak kettle]

reloads a bullet out of thin air if there's room in the mag for 1 every 3 seconds if you hold the weapon without switching it/reloading after firing, even if you have reserves to spare

[signal spade]

you can like get your stack buff on tariq and then your sidearm will do decent damage to a shinka

but gwynn has to ramp the concerto otherwise it tickles so its impossible and then wasting shotty ammo to break turns into you like sad when it eventually pops

[twilit thistle]

Is it a tornado? Swear one of them made it break so fast I almost t6ed him

[signal spade]

the shinkas are weird with his abilities the sidearm dot will linger on shinkas when their shields go back up and do good damage

[neon pebble]

Concerto... I know you are pro and good at game... Just please tell me you dont really play gwynn

[signal spade]

what you mean i just tried her for the void expanse during her banner figuring itd be like playable

[twilit thistle]

I just know I was soloing 11 on him

[signal spade]

it was like void impact expanse and she stunk

[neon pebble]

Dont use concerto, I have championed that since launch

[twilit thistle]

And I think the tornado helped with breaking impact shinkas

[signal spade]

i mean i know concerto is dog

but i also dont want to max out either of the shotties for the purposes of messing around in expanse

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar add this to ur dataset

New parameter

[oak kettle]

the mod just does that, no other interaction needed. How this hasn't come up before I can only assume is the fault of nobody ever using the mod that doesn't increase damage in any way other than me

[neon pebble]

Use jaren mythic shotty. Eternal Ret and Thermo all you need, Octant if feelin frisky

[signal spade]

yea but youre sayin not to put in concerto

[neon pebble]

Chushingura SA for void

Go double mythic

[signal spade]

ill mess around with it

[neon pebble]

Tbh, in void content id rock Manifesto

Her skills will pop shields

[twilit thistle]

Gwynn needs a buff

[neon pebble]

Thats prob my fav wpn in game now

[twilit thistle]

🤔

[signal spade]

ill revisit the expanse next week when i can finish my bp[

[neon pebble]

Manifesto ❤️

[signal spade]

yea manifesto cranks

[twilit thistle]

What if she was even more tankier. This wouldn’t create another helhest

🤷🏼‍♀️

[neon pebble]

Double base dmg of all other SA. Gwynn wpn mastery thrives on base dmg.

[neon pebble]

She is now, she cant overshoot more than 6 orbs at once. Spam spin sig and stay at full overshield

It gives heal more sustain and less burst

She is good, I was outdpsing my T6 Jaren with her in cordon 11

[twilit thistle]

Yea but what if they gave her damage resistance. Ngl i am biased for this tho bc efrideet is such a tank

[neon pebble]

She has 50% dr on her dash

[twilit thistle]

What if she went immune for a short time

Again very biased here

[neon pebble]

Sorta has some Iframes with her teleport ngl 🤣

Time it right and dodge some stupid stuff

Gwynn is my new Rossi, she all I been playing this season

Her float jumps let her do lava skip like Jaren in cordon also btw 👀

[indigo solar]

Not new one sec

[twilit thistle]

Did u get the one about efrideet too? Was that one new

[indigo solar]

#💭│main-chat message

[twilit thistle]

🫶🏻

[oak kettle]

Yeah it’s an update on that

The second part is completely detached from the first part

Ouroborea mag just gives you icebreaker

[indigo solar]

Everyone can do lava skip

[twilit thistle]

Is there tech for efrideet jumps that I need to master? I don’t member which one does it ngl

[oak kettle]

No weird perk interaction required, it just pulls ammo from thin air if you hold a weapon with the mod after shooting it and don’t reload

[indigo solar]

Nope just jump on the cylinders to the right

[twilit thistle]

No I mean iirc it’s a triple jump

Tech, not for a strike, like u can triple jump iirc

[indigo solar]

Can't triple jump that I know of, but you can use dash to gain extra vertical if you do it right after jumping

So jump > dash > jump > dash

[twilit thistle]

I don’t think it was the dash

[oak kettle]

Oh btw for the Ikora enjoyers out there Sub 3 Armageddon is possible

I haven’t got it yet, fumbled the ball on my last attempt but even with a death and not having heavy at some critical moments I got a 3:21

[storm mural]

Mommy made everyone pizza bagels

[oak kettle]

Would be much easier if I could at least get my present fleet to uncommon with the fraternity move speed increase enhancement

[twilit thistle]

Go to bed.

[storm mural]

Make me

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-patrick-fight-spongebob-fight-gif-17721615

Mom said i can stay up to 11 since im a big boy now

[twilit thistle]

There’s a party in rsr for na/latm

[elder marten]

is the eminare permanent?

[visual rain]

is this challenge raid

did this guy really bring ning to a boss

[celest robin]

Don't think so, seasonal i believe.

[elder marten]

damn i dont even feel like putting more into it then

i dont play the game enough

[celest robin]

Monkeys paw of removing pinnacle energy limitations.

[elder marten]

yep

[celest robin]

#1485935503223296000 message

It's seasonal

[bold fog]

2.[Emanare] resets completely at the start of each season.

thiiiis is why i'm not investing

[celest robin]

But then again, nothing official on if season 5 will be the same system or require the same materials to upgrade if it does stay. Heck, we don't even know if a season 5 coming

[celest robin]

62 incadescence clusters for a seasonal track where those could be used on new characters and backlogs. Insane requirements

[celest robin]

ai or photoshop. The playerbase isn't that big.

[neon pebble]

Jaren doesnt do that, he double dash, supers, double dash and skips

[waxen abyss]

I can confirm i have experienced that before, alot of players in the Front line event in Firebase Minos prime

It does happens in APAC

[bold fog]

i cant form cordon but erryone in front lines

netease hint hint

[waxen abyss]

gotta spend the keys to get the goods

To this day is crazy to me NetEase manage to make more players appear in open worlds while Bungie i just see 3 or 4

What makes it more funny is in the first trailer of Destiny gameplay, they had that thing in more than 4 players

[twilit thistle]

Its cuz the power scaling impacted it. Should be crazy on monday once everyone figures it out.

[neon pebble]

@indigo solar

[rotund flame]

Bro on the left is level 523? 🗿

[marsh mist]

Is it just easier now? I still dont get the crowds saw the same yesterday

[waxen abyss]

Can't wait to see that work in speedrunning raids

we got the Scythe skating

[twilit thistle]

Be nice to @river vigil , was the one who carried that encounter.

[waxen abyss]

The guardian

[lavish carbon]

ppl used to do that in break in (which got patched)

[twilit thistle]

Ngl when I saw this i gave up all hope on adept mods.

[waxen abyss]

i can't believe i get to have D1 in my life, thank you morgran.

[waxen abyss]

Damn..

[rotund flame]

I'm confused? Is that not a Frontline in open world? Also i have no idea who that is

[twilit thistle]

Joking

he was afk

hes been there like all day

[rotund flame]

To be fair so many people do that in Frontline. Must be the new meta to farm materials from it lol

[twilit thistle]

Its way faster now.

You can solo it and go pretty fast. Wonder how many ppl you could get in there at one time

[sharp talon]

infinite timer bug?

its not ending..

[lavish carbon]

😮

[neon pebble]

Must be T6 ikora

[sharp talon]

she can freeze time now gg

[indigo solar]

Tee hee

[indigo solar]

Frog emote

[rotund flame]

Wish there was more ways to get the 2x item. Playing legendary campaign at adpet 3 is so bad .

[thick shoal]

destiny rising market analysts, I need your professional opinion, is it worth buying like a BP or tree of blessing or whatever other subscription at this point

or is the game actually dead and dying by all metrics

[bold fog]

it's ok but doesn't share

[oblique geyser]

Its been few months people are telling its dead.. if you have money to spare then spend

[frail coyote]

lol nice playing with ya mate

[bold fog]

bp is what $5 it's not a big commit, do what you want

[tidal python]

Why does the front lines event cache disappear after 10 seconds?!?!?!

[bold fog]

just that one location thankfully

but ppl reported that like day 1 of the season

[tidal python]

Ahh okay so it is a bug. I got so mad when I was choosing the rewards

[vast sky]

Holy trash aim

[indigo solar]

Moving vehicle + gyro + unstable connection is a fun combo

Though I don't think you know what that means, since your only PvP experience is camping with Kabr

[vast sky]

Ik i just love insulting my officers

Like some poorly written sadistic yandere

Wont ever let you leave though

[indigo solar]

You can't do anything, I'm pack leader since you bums are always offline

[vast sky]

My highest pick rates are estella and ning tho

[vast sky]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-stan-twitter-woman-sitting-gif-24452683

[dusty spire]

Do it, if you can afford it, minimum spend is cool, ignore the noise have fun

Players will complain game is dead but be setting in the community chat all day

[sharp talon]

ikora's billion dmg laser is very satisfying

[river vigil]

if only tariq could do something like that

https://tenor.com/view/moist-critical-gif-18538102

[visual rain]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[bitter estuary]

balls

[visual rain]

steak

[dusty spire]

This dude feels so good by far void set up is the best arc is 2nd and solar 3rd

[last matrix]

any recent news concerning a port to pc?

[vast sky]

I am

I want destiny 1 remaster on pc so bad

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/ormalterego-gif-11703045220090612380

[river vigil]

Trust me you would know if there was news regarding a pc port and wouldn't have to repeatedly ask

[dusty spire]

Anyone know if the boost primary weapon damage stacks if both mods are attached to a double mythic slots?

[sharp talon]

i think my friend tested it once, it didn't stack. but worth double checking ig

the +40% primary mod right?

[dusty spire]

Thanks yeah I’ll give it a go, last I check I felt it didn’t but nothing discription says not stackable

[dusty spire]

Correct

[oblique geyser]

Double adept scope seem to stack though

[sharp talon]

wolf signature looks really cool

[bitter estuary]

Amogus

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-amogus-singing-gif-5049958546468496340

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-minos-minos-prime-thy-end-is-now-punch-gif-16630674477332190433

[sharp talon]

tariq morgran

[empty kettle]

What if they mix twilight arsenal with thundercrash? 🪓 +⚡

[last matrix]

its just quicker if i ask here

but ill take that as a no on there being news on a port to pc

[half sun]

so what 4 slot artifact set am i looking for in this case

@prisma pond what artifacts u use?

[bitter estuary]

if you have t0

(must use crimson, snipers are there for the dual mod upgrades so crimson deals more damage)

healing veil/healing nutation/rampaging pact/undaunted spiral

[half sun]

cool i will see if i can get them from that singular chaos

[naive ingot]

@bitter estuary

[obtuse folio]

Issakis's Tabernacle back in action!

[neon pebble]

Whos left is it anyway?

[neon pebble]

Looks like you are tickling them to death 🤣

[half sun]

i pulled efreed last weekend and havent pulled since and 3rd pull into new pity i get this

[bitter estuary]

need attal buff :/

[bitter estuary]

tickling ? then what about tariq

he barely touches them

[neon pebble]

They laugh themselves to death

[half sun]

not sure what the hype is about tariq but i goy tariq efreet and gwyn lol

[bitter estuary]

just get a copy of him and thats it, unless you’re planning to push expanse lvl 100++ then yes he’s worth t6-ing

[neon pebble]

Id T6 you

[bitter estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441230422074720498/1502133013067071578/RDT_20260424_1652125439861200370024234.gif

ill a5 you

[neon pebble]

Youd be my mrs not mr 💀

Srsly 3 hours sleep, you win netease I will farm

[naive ingot]

5* goth Attal.

[marsh mist]

Can it be june alrdy so i can spend more money on this game

[neon pebble]

Yes click your heels together 3 times and repeat "theres no place like Destiny Rising"

[half sun]

wuthering waves since they both gacg

[bitter estuary]

then sleep

[bitter estuary]

t6a5 immediately

[dusty spire]

Can we request that the expanse leaderboard gives 200 lumi to top x
weekly
Players are competing in LB for an emblem at the end of the season, I think a better incentive for under light climbing should be just that

[oblique geyser]

I wouldnt complain 🫠

[dusty spire]

So weekly top x prize and then End of season overview

It’s more competitive in expanse lb then cordon

[sharp talon]

add leaves to cordon leaderboard as well atp

[dusty spire]

Why they are not incentivising expanse

Idk

[oblique geyser]

The mode is pretty nice to be honest, love to have a solo compétitive mode but it also become very frustrating the higher you climb

[dusty spire]

Exactly

[sharp talon]

last expanse 40 cycle i got #1 in both sides and my title only lasted 24 hrs lol. imagine if they give u a title for only 24 hrs at the end of the season 💀

[dusty spire]

It’s silly for your input imo no.1 minimum 1200 lumi

[naive ingot]

Yep

[dusty spire]

Then 2-3 1100

4-10 1000

Top 100 🟢800 including top 3
Top 200-500 🟢600
All parties 500+ 🟢 400

So long you participate

That’s a decent amount out of our participation and investment into our hero cycle

[bitter estuary]

ppl in reddit will hate peeps more lmao and act like its the end of the world

[dusty spire]

Cordon expanse and sg should have incentivised lumi

[bitter estuary]

i guess 100 engrams for top 100 should be fine

or elemental condensates

[dusty spire]

If they can’t participate that’s a skill issue imo

[bitter estuary]

how is a mode that revolves around t6 characters a skill issue

[dusty spire]

Because you will have a chance at some point to do so

It’s not a casual thing

Save get T6 compete

Or spend get T6 compete

Game is extremely generous

[bitter estuary]

i dont remember much but iirc past gachas only gave ppl titles

[dusty spire]

The demand here is slightly different

[bitter estuary]

pgr had a leaderboard system and i dont remember them giving out pulls for getting the top of the leaderboard

[dusty spire]

So they either tailor or commit to the model until the wheels fall off

It’s DR

Demands are different

[bitter estuary]

at that point, bring back calops as well as make a seperate “overseer” leaderboard for expanse

[dusty spire]

I own a insurance business and even though my model is pretty much the same as competing services, partial coverage of my customer base is highly tailored

It’s the same concept

[bitter estuary]

otherwise i’d agree

[dusty spire]

Imo netease needs to go in to micro tailored until they can find the right balance

[bitter estuary]

that being said, gacha games have been like that

[dusty spire]

It’s true I just believe the gacha model is starting to crack

[bitter estuary]

where they only give out at most cosmetic related stuff for participating in the leaderboard

[dusty spire]

Even that would work

[sharp talon]

id even take engrams tbh

[dusty spire]

Sure they have a monthly limitation to how much progress they want to give out freeeveryseason

But if we are gonna be more active

Make it worth it

I don’t mind more digital exclusives to collect even if it’s leaderboard participation

Limited badges or season cosmetic

Limited decorations for outfit

[oblique geyser]

If only we could get a new feature with new things to farm.. like every char can equip one piece of exotic gear and this gear bring a new talent tree

[empty kettle]

With how long the expanse duration is, I guess that would be better than nothing

[dusty spire]

Like where is no.1 expanse decoration for cosmetics?

Or cordon stage x for your outfit

Simple things

[sharp talon]

there is a cordon emblem that u can level up which is a step towards that ig

[empty kettle]

They could release character specific Artifacts that can change how the character works

[sharp talon]

getting to 11 isnt that difficult except perhaps the first cycle

[dusty spire]

Yeah but I want to wear it 😏

[sharp talon]

first cycle was very fun on the new strike

[dusty spire]

I know you’d look stunning in your expanse top 1-3 decoration on jaren

That’s at least something

[neon pebble]

Its endless

[neon pebble]

People who are casual wont be motivated by 400 lumia every 3 months. Pushing to top 10 for an extra 600 lumia every 3 months wouldnt be worth. This game has no gacha issues, its very generous. This game has massive skill issue. How do you make hard content to keep your top100 players interested while at same time keeping it easy enough for the other 95% of playerbase? You cant, people will always cry whale or whatever excuse but its skill based game

It has been shown time and again being T6 doesnt make you an insta pro, xuan wei last night got mvp over efri and hairkora 🤣

Dedication, practice, repeat

Lots of sweat

[stark forge]

hope they sunset emanare next season

feels like i dont achieve any advantage in power boost as far as phase went up

[bitter estuary]

cordon ops (4 phases, 21d each cycle)

star reward: 800 x 4 = 3200 lumia
diffusion: 750 x 4 = 3000 lumia
containment: 750 x 4 = 3000 lumia
expanse endless (season long)

4(120 x 7) = 3360 lumia

this is the amount f2p can get per SEASON (sans events), a lot of casuals are already quitting because of the amount of sweating they have to do this season

[lilac spindle]

i have a question , how do you unlock a relic trait 3 , the one you're supposed to unlock with seasons?

yeah it feels cringe to not get any pulls the whole story

[bitter estuary]

you need to level up

[lilac spindle]

like really cringe

[bitter estuary]

you're very early game

[lilac spindle]

level up on what? im lvl 90

[bitter estuary]

? thats odd

just get incandense clusters?

this one right?

[lilac spindle]

it says "available after unlocking whatever ability node"

[bitter estuary]

ohhhhh yeah you need to unlock the weapon mastery to i think 3 so it can be unlocked

whats the power of your relic ability

[lilac spindle]

my weapon mastery is 4. just one off from max , other than that my q , v and R are maxx

[bitter estuary]

hmm odd

mind sending a screenshot?

[lilac spindle]

sure

[bitter estuary]

the locked one is emanare abilities

you have to unlock it via the emanare tab

[lilac spindle]

what is that

should i be leveling hairkora and the other void girl? i dont have any limited and i got t2 robot guy

[bitter estuary]

the "seasonal" progression system

under the season tab

[lilac spindle]

lwk this looks aids

but thanks

[bitter estuary]

you just press buttons bro

[lilac spindle]

ah ok i thought i had to do some weird stuff

[bitter estuary]

you slot in characters for added buffs, you upgrade the tree (dont forget to phase breakthrough to unlock more) and you slot in the emanare abilities on the characters in the character relic ability tab

[fiery marsh]

Random testing estela maxed out exotics

[neon pebble]

Is that skill sweating or grind sweating requiring 4 diff lightbearers? Cordon 1-10 is easy

[bitter estuary]

so heir > thunderlord > furies iii > gallows, noted

[waxen abyss]

Indeed

[bitter estuary]

grind sweating

for power requirements

[fiery marsh]

Still like furies lll due to infinite ammo reserves xD

[bitter estuary]

that being said furies 3 might be better due to the new dual loadout mods and adept mods

[fiery marsh]

Yee

[bitter estuary]

so assuming that

furies 3 > heir apparent ≥ thunderlord > gallows

yeah yeah f2p can just use wolf and do impact/spread fine and they can just get efrideet (assuming they came back at the start of the season) just fine on piercing/rapid even on t0

its the grind thats painful

[bitter estuary]

^^^

[fiery marsh]

Im also messing with radiation artifacts for a balance of weapon + ability damage

Makes expanse easier to run in spread with gallows

Instead of dumping 2 mags to pop a spread shink, it now takes 2/3s of a mag

In 70+ content

[neon pebble]

Grind sweat is felt by all players, even if you have skill you still need to grind. You cant make hard content, people freak out and it gets nerfed. Reward disparity between top1 and bottom 100k cant be made too big of a gap or people freak out. Cant win, there isnt a good way to push players into not being casual

[pine verge]

My thoughts are same

[neon pebble]

Soon as its hard, they quit

[pine verge]

I like it, but boy is it annoying when it gets me killed lol. Estella really needs general damage % artis

[fiery marsh]

I made a lot of estela mains cringe when I said furies lll might be the play nowadays

Rather be doing consistent damage the entire run rather than doing amazing damage only on some parts

And barely anything on the rest of the run

[neon pebble]

Whats her dmg like with the adept RoF mods? May be worth going double mythic

[fiery marsh]

Thats what im farming for. Already got my 105 mobius clusters saved for it

[neon pebble]

Ning projected over 3k rof iirc with new mods. Estella is just behind

[pine verge]

Yeah I was right there with you lol. People still saying weapon damage is useless on estella too, despite her doing great dps with furies/corruption

[pine verge]

Furies is too good to drop for a mythic pulse

[sullen tulip]

This is shadowredwolf7 husband hey yall

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-not-care-juan-gif-22047769

[bitter estuary]

cubes

[wide dagger]

Balls

[fiery marsh]

Im making more estela mains cringe more when I think radiation makes her more viable for cordons and expanse xD

Her summons artifacts are a crutch in a sense that theres no bonus weapon damage to make gallows good enough for spread shinkas

Instead of getting like 100% summon damage, splitting it 51% for weapon and summon damage with radiation makes her able to use gallows to pop spread shinkas more effectively too

[sullen tulip]

Could I ask yall and my wife was on it Whats imvu?

[bitter estuary]

this is destiny rising discord server

[empty kettle]

Probably a bot

[pine verge]

Youre 100% right though as it makes her hit like a freight train. I used it for lolz and my furies was doing 120k a hit on shinkas

The firerate slot 3 arti is also really fun

[neon pebble]

S1 BP 😭

[neon pebble]

Why they not using nings summon arti for total dmg boost? This is what happens when meta is decided by 10 sec dps burst videos. Of course she does more with summon dmg when she uses super its a summon 😭

[neon pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

Like tinder meets OF, sorry bud

[fiery marsh]

Im saying with lack of weapon damage in her summln artifacts, she struggles hard vs spread shinkas.

[neon pebble]

Yeah. I am in agreeance, idk why summon dmg was ever her recco arti. The 10 sec burst dps test videos are junk

[fiery marsh]

I tried expanse 70+ with summon arts then swapped to radiation artifacts, and it made the run a lot easier xD

[neon pebble]

Ive been dropping ability artis for wpn artis when using characters outside of their element. It makes a HUGE diff on shield pops

[fiery marsh]

Instead of using 2 mags on a spread, it took less than a mag

To pop em

[neon pebble]

Its a real thing, when out of your element or shinka type then wpn dmg makes a difference

[fiery marsh]

70+ spread is all void. But the shinkas dont have an element

[neon pebble]

The little drones have health, more wpn dmg > abilities that do no dmg to shinka

Also estella in void shouldnt be relying on Solar summons 😭

[fiery marsh]

Well, if you pop the shields with void weapons, then the summons do real damage

[neon pebble]

I have 3 sets for gwynn. 1 "meta" void set then my Arc and Solar are complete diff artis

[neon pebble]

If you pop the shield yes, im in agreeance with you that ability dmg isnt the way

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/lilo-and-stitch-disney-stitch-hi-hello-gif-3562358

[neon pebble]

Why take 13% more summon dmg over 33% all dmg?

[thorny frost]

Wasn’t I the main one who commented when you posted the radiance idea before? I didn’t cringe I just didn’t think it added enough survivability for high end content (I should have said high end expanse as now with Tariq survivability is probably easier in high end group content).

I don’t really like just adding more healing without it adding to max survivability with spike damage being able to be so high, specially when under light.

[thorny frost]

Rampaging doesn’t affect the summons them self

[neon pebble]

It wont buff them after summon but if buff is up when you summon they should get the base stat boost

[thorny frost]

We tested it a bit back, rampaging work like the inverse of Belicose. It only affects the wielder, while Belicose only affect the summons. I didn’t test to see if rampaging affect accidents/summon sacrifice as the loss of summon damage was enough that it became not worth it.

[bright ledge]

Is this game dead

[bitter estuary]

no

[bright ledge]

Damn

Just die already

[pliant marlin]

That’s like asking if Warframe is dead

[thorny frost]

Just stop playing/looking into it? XD sorry asking for something to die is an odd choice

[neon pebble]

I just tested lol then pop in here to see you already did 🤣 my stance still firm if its not Solar content dont use summon dmg, the new power tune up in expanse makes shields abysmal

[neon pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/no-life-gif-11576362

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-at-each-other-huang4evr-gif-23515088

[bitter estuary]

67

[thorny frost]

I have been trying to look for a good set that does both, it is hard to find tho as most universal damage increases aren’t the greatest on her. Void shields seem to be the hardest for her to pop. It took a little bit but I was able to get through 70-80 arc rapid expanse with her. Kinda stuck on 90 as I need to do more attempts as they toned the AOE up on that stage up stupidly high lol. I can do it just need to do more runs.

[neon pebble]

Balls

[bitter estuary]

true

[thorny frost]

I would try the radiation set idea if I get one I could farm, I am just weary of doing an under light expanse with it knowing how hard those melee/snipers hit.

[wide dagger]

Me want artifacts u using

[neon pebble]

My gwynn got stuck in Solar expanse, i went full wpn dmg solar arti build and was able to push farther than ability dmg build. She now rocks diff sets for diff content. She has 3 working on a 4th for flexibility

This is pre manifesto btw, havnt been back to expanze in a couple weeks

[pine verge]

I wish manifesto was 450, or scorch gave tariq stacks

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-anakin-star-wars-gif-10358450

[pine verge]

I like the scorch mechanics for swapping playstyle and all the funny aoe though. Detonations from reload are meh though fr. Mostly useful to increase the dot lol

[thorny frost]

I haven’t pushed farming chaos that hard yet. But I was starting to do that with her, was working on a pure summon set. I currently am using safeguard in slot 3 to enhance her other ability damage. But I want to build a non over shield set so that won’t work for that.

[pine verge]

I just go radiation or firerate on estella rn since I dislike summon artis

[thorny frost]

I don’t think you want those artifacts from that test XD

[wide dagger]

🥀

[neon pebble]

Solar set and void set

[pine verge]

If only blinding plasma was any summon and not just barrier lol

[thorny frost]

I had started working on the RoF artifact for her. I could see it coming in handy for shield popping and summon generation/explosions. Might eat through heavy ammo a bit more due to lower damage from other sources, unless it is utilized in a furies build.

[pine verge]

I am a furies one trick at this point hahaha. Its nice, I imagine even better with t2

Obliterates rapids as youd expect, and comfortably spam lvl3 summons with primary

[lilac spindle]

if i dont have gwynn should yet should i be farming for her weapons before hand or should i farm weapons for my current characters? i was told to pretty much use wolf , idk if after the story i should swap to hairkora or not

[candid phoenix]

Hairkora is very strong, probably stronger than your gwynn

[bitter estuary]

just use wigkora

gwynn is nice but jaren is the better option, you can obtain both via the elemental condensate system

[lilac spindle]

what is that system? i like gwynn way more than the other guy lwk is he much better than her ?😭 he looks so boring

[candid phoenix]

u only need wolf for the campaign

ppl don't really use them much after that

[lilac spindle]

ah okkk , then ill go back to wigkora

[bitter estuary]

a new system to unlock characters without waiting for it to rerun, you can access it in the character tab -> archives (as shown in the first screenshot) -> select character of choice

[lilac spindle]

ohhhhhhhh but dont you have to have them first to use that or

[bitter estuary]

you can obtain elemental condensates off engrams and events, and be gifted from pack members, also up to 15 per week from weeklies

[lilac spindle]

then which one should i get from all of them? i heard efrideet is bonkers

[bitter estuary]

no you dont need to have them, you can unlock the characters with them,

call it "character fragments" and you'll understand more

[thorny frost]

It isn’t as good as heir for rapid fire, and it does lack burst damage so if having trouble with bursting down Shinkas during vulnerability/one staging bosses it could end up being not as good.

That being said I don’t hate Furies, but recognizing time and place for builds is important XD

[bitter estuary]

try to get efrideet, i suggest getting into an active pack/clan so they can give you the elemental condensate you want even quicker

[pine verge]

Just use heavy ammo to break rapids when using furies

[lilac spindle]

oh the clan im at isint that active :7 is there one you recommend i join

[bitter estuary]

i honestly dont know which emea clan thats active these days

[lilac spindle]

also good because i like handcannon and snipers 🙏

[lilac spindle]

dang 💔

[bitter estuary]

mine's moderately active if you wanna join i'll send an inv gladly

[lilac spindle]

oh for sure id love that if they can help my conquest to finally get a limited 5 star it'd also be awesome 🙏

[sweet forge]

I really need the adept mod for that than it could be really good working

[pine verge]

Damage wise furies is more than heir afaik, but lower firerate means less accident damage.

So idk id have to test them side by side. However furies also has unlimited uptime so theres that too lol

[thorny frost]

Oh, I also thinks to get a more accurate burst phase test with Furies when having to summon we should start with Heavy imo. Build to 3 lvl 3 summons then switch to Furies. Furies lack of stacking hurts it in building at beginning of burst phases but it isn’t like we wouldn’t have some Heavy ammo.

[thorny frost]

I still need that mod too >.>

[sweet forge]

still using the base artifacts for her but I need it than gallows would be much better working with it

[pine verge]

Furies does so much damage it'll surprise you, no kidding. I dont even use my heavy for damage lol. It stacks well with firerate from the rapidfire mag on your heavy weapon. And adept scope if you have that

[thorny frost]

Furies is still lower dps and lower accident/summon explosion (at T2) hurts it a bit too. It is good for consistency and I have used it for Arc expanses, although once I finish Thunderlord that might take its place depending on how good it is on arc shields.

[pine verge]

Furies lower dps than heir?

By itself I dont think it is actually

I cant test it at equal investment though, but right now my furies is dealing twice the damage of my heir lol

Im pretty sure if I maxed it out from where it is it wouldnt double the damage. So I imagine its less raw damage but more firerate for interacting with her kit. Mostly accidents

[bitter estuary]

my issue with heir is the initial startup being slower than furies

when you put double mag expansion and the adept scope that gives both higher damage per hit, it's actually better on furies

[pine verge]

Yeah the new mods are super good. I use the 18% firerate and 40% primary dmg. No adept scope though

Clears 600 rpm so the corruption from shots is the same, its just a difference in accident triggers

[bitter estuary]

meta shifted to prefer towards primaries it seems but idk if i like it or not

[twilit thistle]

Furies doesn’t provide the overshield you need for summons

[pine verge]

I dont like overshield build on estella anyways

[sharp talon]

jaren needs a hc thats like arby

[twilit thistle]

If you don’t like dmg, that’s fine just don’t spread misinformation

[pine verge]

How am I spreading misinformation?

Overshield build on estella is really bad in content where you take any damage too, which is why I dont like it lol

Consistency is preferable

[crimson crown]

thunderlord good now

[twilit thistle]

Estela is really bad in any content rn, and is going to get a buff soon.

[stark forge]

yes give her chain dmg like ning fei

[twilit thistle]

It’s the worst time to build her cuz the bis for her is probably going to change

[pine verge]

What makes you sure she's getting a buff? Have they said anything about buffing her?

[thorny frost]

Furies is lower raw damage. In about a 16 second test it dealt about 1.5 mill less damage then heir did pure damage wise. Again I am not hating on Furies but it is not going to be the best all the time, specially in game modes that give a decent amount of heavy ammo. I have used Furies in expanse before, but if doing solar rapid expanse I will go for Heir.

[pine verge]

When I say raw damage I mean damage from the weapon itself. Test it without casting any abilities to isolate it from the difference in summons/accidents

[thorny frost]

That is a bad test for Estela. But you can already separate the damage from weapons vs skills. It is shown in my picture

[crimson crown]

"don't spread misinformation"
"estella is getting a buff soon"
-same person

[pine verge]

Real

[stark forge]

furies not much better than ultimatum slower fr and similar dps

[twilit thistle]

Gwynn got a buff for her rerun, it wasn’t good. I think it was actually written down somewhere iirc

[thorny frost]

I zoomed in on the weapon damage during the test. 5 mill dps from furies, 6.5 mill heir. This is just the weapon damage, no accidents/summon, and I also didn’t let Heir rev up before hand.

[pine verge]

Note that I specifically before was talking about the raw weapon damage itself, not an ideal burst damage rotation. Do you have both weapons maxed out? If so can you test it for me side by side lol. Just 15 seconds in shooting range firing gun by itself

[twilit thistle]

.

[pine verge]

That doesn't necessarily mean they will buff estella. Gwynn was announced in the patch notes before her rerun. We'll see soon

[pine verge]

This surprises me given how limp my heir is, but mine isnt maxed so its hard to tell

[twilit thistle]

.

(Sorry rene)

[crimson crown]

i stand corrected!

[twilit thistle]

Note this was essentially near speculation bc it was so vague and was before Gwynn’s rerun. It ended up being true.

[thorny frost]

Due to where reloading lands (my heir is reloading at 13.2 seconds) this is where the damage tests get to. So for active firing state the heir does about the same amount of damage in 13 seconds as Furies does in 15

[golden spade]

Yes, agree. But as much as I like Estella, she's weak in expanse compared to Efrideet

[twilit thistle]

I think the best dmg tests are when you compare her summons to her weapon dmg 😂 those lil guys shred

[thorny frost]

This is still not a great test for Estela as you shouldn’t neglect her summon explosions (if T2) and accidents during burst phase, which is really all these tests show.

[thorny frost]

I am on floor 90 rapid with Estela XD if that stupid boss didn’t exploded all my summons by snapping his fingers I would be past it lol.

[pine verge]

Im specifically considering weapon damage and not the entire kit rn

[sharp talon]

what is the 90 rapid boss?

the fulminator guy?

[twilit thistle]

I think it’s the captain iirc

[thorny frost]

Just pointing out weapons with out weapon mastery/skills just doesn’t show as much. Weapon mastery modifies how weapons perform a lot (look at crimson for Efrideet)

[golden spade]

Wow. Share your build. It must be a skill issue with me. Im still not past 70 but also just doing other things too

[thorny frost]

Yea it is the captain. Not a hard boss, and he was stupidly easy on floor 70

[pine verge]

good to know. Im surprised heir gets that much better with a few upgrades. I stopped upgrading mine for furies after the coming back to the game and seeing how much more damage furies did lol

What mods are you using on the machinegun when using furies? And pulse w/ heir

[thorny frost]

I tried RoF one with Heir but found magazine size more consistent.

Forgot the last slot

[pine verge]

Yea no problem. Im aware, just considering weapon damage alone to get a better idea of where things stand. I know accidents are powerful. Thats actually why I like using the firerate slot 3 lol. Or general damage % to buff it

[thorny frost]

Pretty typical current Estela build

[twilit thistle]

We need to do a massive group farm Monday for mods. I kinda wonder how many ppl we can get on the frontlines at once, and if we would break the server.

[thorny frost]

Doesn’t the front line have different instances and create a new one if enough people are there?

[twilit thistle]

Yes. My idea to break it would be have a 6 person fireteam go in, disband, and those 6 players invite more ppl

[neon pebble]

Why does gwynn do legendary campaign precision faster than impact? 💀

[pine verge]

Yeah I use mag size on heir too. Rof for furies

[sharp talon]

with chaperone?

[dim pebble]

How do I in-game bind to the DR app? There aren’t instructions anywhere. Clicking the link in-game just goes to the “in-game binding” room which doesn’t have instructions

[neon pebble]

My chap has no invest, i saved the resources for manifesto 😭 thermo+spino > non built chap

[thorny frost]

Ooos I wrote the wrong name XD I meant mag for furies. I tried RoF for Furies and it didn’t seem to work well, the more common reload was actually semi pain.

[dim pebble]

Nvm I just scrolled to the top

[sharp talon]

does thermo break the precision shinka in lg campaign in one shot?

[thorny frost]

That… might work XD I am curious how the game would handle that yea. Organizing that will be hard tho

[bitter estuary]

afaik only chaperone

[neon pebble]

2 shots just like my chap, biggest diff is after the break thermo shreds and chap does bad dps

[pine verge]

I dont mind it since the reload is 70

[sharp talon]

thermo is the goat

[neon pebble]

My chap also not built

I spam my super just to run faster 🤣

[thorny frost]

With the third slot fire rate it could change things too, the increased fire rate might eat up to much extra ammo for heavy ammo so it might not be as viable to use them if you find that being a good slot 3. Like Corndog stated earlier, different builds allow for doing different content. This is why I do t hate on any one weapon if I can see the use for it in different situations.

[pine verge]

Third slot firerate I only ever use with furies yeah. It works particularly well with it having infinite ammo. My estella is only t1 and it allows very easy uptime on summons. I was thinking of getting t2 during rerun

[neon pebble]

I can almost lava skip with gwynn, I need to try jump, dash, dash, jump, super

[sharp talon]

did u get past 73 impact with gwynn?

[pine verge]

Ive also tried radiation and it works really well, but is frustrating when it gets me killed lol. I might try courageous as an inbetween. Need a better slot 4 with general damage % tbh

[neon pebble]

We dont talk about bruno

I have been maxing manifesto and working on emanare. I have not revisited it since that week

[pine verge]

I just did 73 impact with tariq

Love just holding down fire on my phone for ez clear

Goofy barrier

[sharp talon]

i think tariq is better than gwynn though

[pine verge]

He is

Since bro doesnt die lmao

[neon pebble]

Listen bro, I am bad at the game I have massive skill issue. I am just persistent and keep trying 🤣 slowly I am improving though

He is for Solar content since he is Solar 👀

[sharp talon]

nah ur the goat for using gwynn

[neon pebble]

Solar was gwynns hardest struggle because no good exotic now she has manifesto

[bitter estuary]

chaperone still is VERY slow because of the artificial cap they put on it

slower than base niaatiks/swordbreaker

[neon pebble]

Had to borrow some tricks from the goat jaren 🤫

Anything he can do I can do slightly worse

[bitter estuary]

ALSO no i have it built so no arguing here

[neon pebble]

Hows roadborn rando proc and for ad clear the full reload is nice

[bitter estuary]

its great for orange/yellow bars otherwise you'd lose A LOT of dps in the boss phase

[thorny frost]

I only have a radiation set built for Jolder, but being under light on floor 90 I am unsure how well the survivability would be for me. JLDR I believe is running nurishing pact with theirs to supplement against the damage it deals, but when under light, even a little, I feel like that could become a liability.

[neon pebble]

I gotta max concerto and chappy just for completion sake

[bitter estuary]

also you must do precision shots on chappy otherwise it's wack

[neon pebble]

Alot of times they are 1 sig and a smidge of health left. Would feel cool ngl doing a spin into 1 shotty takedowns

[cyan tide]

I'd say Gwynn's buff were pretty good, they made her a lot comfier to play. Now the only problem is that she doesn't deal as much damage as other mythics
I don't think that every character should have auto reload on their kit but Gwynn would benefit from having that on her dash immensely

[neon pebble]

Gwynn can shoot like at 3/4 of the spin mark before animation is done

[cyan tide]

As for Estela I honestly don't know how they could buff her, she already has very good sustained damage and I guess her biggest issue is being slow and not having a lot of burst damage without her super

[bitter estuary]

true

[bitter estuary]

i think she relies to heavily on her ascension

[golden spade]

I have him at T0 and my brain keeps telling me to pull more copies for him and to assend him once at least

But also I don't want to build the BP exotic for him. Can i build him for arc and solar content or will I suffer if I go mythic side arm and exotic gl?

[bitter estuary]

because her being heavily ability based

[pine verge]

It is so lame how sidearms just dont break impact

[sharp talon]

u broke the cordon shinkas pretty decently

[pine verge]

Mesiku is good too, use him in content at t0 and see of you like him enough to invest. I dont think hes super good, hes just solid. Even at t6 hes just usable really

[pine verge]

They have glass bones and paper skin though

[thorny frost]

Survivability of summons, she has good damage but with higher content any enemies aoe basically wipes them out. Ogres smashing the ground and they vanish, the captain boss does his lightning attack and they are fried. If they gave them the same hp % increase and damage reduction as Estela (or just gave them massive aoe resistance) it would help Estela a lot I feel.

[neon pebble]

Add a "earns 1 stack every time she reloads, weapon hits use 1 stack to deal X additional dmg, can occur every Y seconds"

[pine verge]

79 impact it takes multiple magazines to break the impact for me lol

[cyan tide]

Reload effects sounds terrible on her lol, if you're using heir you barely reload at all

[neon pebble]

Its for burst not sustained and it rewards primary usage also and different exotic power weapons

[cyan tide]

That's fair, I feel like her survivability is also kinda bad so maybe they could buff the healing she gets from her summons

[neon pebble]

You could reload primary then reload power and have 2 stacks rdy for quick burst then 1 stack for sustained

[thorny frost]

Allow misfortune healing from firing to work towards ring of conversion could help. But that also just helps a specific build, if wanting to have it more skill based I would say up misfortune healing more so then summon. This could also allow for more slot 2 alterations if they don’t allow it to still build overshield.

[twilit thistle]

20 Estella’s 1 frontline 💀

[thorny frost]

All of the summons lol

[half sun]

pack members?

[bitter estuary]

clan members, if your clan has said condensate, they can give you that

for example you want jolder's elemental condensate, you can post in the "post benediction section" next to the pack shop tab in the pack section

[pine verge]

Just cleared 80 impact. So silly how much harder 79 was lol. I rolled recov on my defensive artis to deal with the impact shinka damage ignoring barrier

Tariq makes expanse very chill lol

Genuinely immortal character

[sharp talon]

what was tariq struggling with on 79? the shinka?

[pine verge]

Ya, only took a few attempts though tbf

Shinka took awhile to break, and it took 2 breaks to kill

[polar summit]

Tell me how lol I’m taking ages to break impact shinkas on cordon

[pine verge]

Just barely not enough damage to kill it in one break

[pine verge]

Manifesto breaks pretty fast. Thats what I was using in cordon w/ tariq

[polar summit]

For me it only breaks “fast” when I got full stack

Otherwise It’s a pain

[sharp talon]

idk, i was also helping him with ikora. what stage are you on? we did till 22

honestly the impact shinkas get pretty tanky and i have to dump a lot of shots even with jaren on 39

[polar summit]

34

[pine verge]

If youre using plasma in 3/4 it helps to throw your boomerangs right as you enter for the arti damage buffs

[sharp talon]

yea no wonder tariq is struggling there

[pine verge]

I can see that taking awhile

Sidearms just arent that great for impact

[sharp talon]

whats the highst stage on na rn?

[polar summit]

39 I think

[river vigil]

41

[polar summit]

Hel Ikora Jaren

2nd team is using hel Tariq Jaren

[sharp talon]

that you?

[polar summit]

No my team is hel Ikora Tariq

[oblique geyser]

Must be powerful setup🔥

[polar summit]

Tariq super is very useful on boss phase

[oblique geyser]

Ikora and her support🤣

[polar summit]

Cos it can trap the boss in barrier for both phases

[pine verge]

Real

I wish manifesto was a 450

[polar summit]

We do boss phases dmg in few seconds, what we struggle is to break impacts

[pine verge]

I like manifesto but the slow stack gen bruh. Hopefully they adjust it lol

[sharp talon]

ted is bugged and they still havent fixed it :\

[pine verge]

Bugged how?

[sharp talon]

it overrides other buffs or something

someone showed a test with attal dmg buff

[oblique geyser]

Tried getting rid of HH ? Jaren ikora and Tariq ?

[polar summit]

No, only I got Tariq and Jaren

[polar summit]

Tbh I was getting mvp constantly on Tariq until mid 20s. Doing like 33% dmg and most dmg taken lol, but can’t compete with Ikora at high 20s

[oblique geyser]

Well tariq offer packed add on a silver plate for ikora, the laser regen she can benefit from this is insane, i dont even imagine on last boss if you pack centurion etc on boss.. infinite laser 🔥

[crimson crown]

that super actually makes it so the boss can't move out of it? didn't know that lol. i thought stuff can still walk out

[oblique geyser]

HH, ikora and Tariq might be a good setup i guess y.. i dont see a +30 without HH or Ikora though

[bitter estuary]

@sharp talon balls

[pine verge]

Yeah its quite nice for that

[bitter estuary]

that person always send inv

[oblique geyser]

Another massive buff for ikora too, how many time i saw ikora ult fail while boss dash🤣

[river vigil]

pain

[crimson crown]

does that work on any other notable bosses?

[polar summit]

Yep, it actually saves a lot of time, since helhest can just shoot easily and Ikora can do her thing

[polar summit]

Probably yea, it worked even on that tank from leg campaign lol

[dusty spire]

This 👌🏾

I didn’t consider the length that’s why I said weekly

But I agree with alot of what was written

[sweet forge]

no 172

[lavish bolt]

F U game for giving an event were everything one shots you and you want to throw your phone at the wall

[stark forge]

u dont have to play the event

[lavish bolt]

I need a billion cores I have to play the event

[river vigil]

another one for the trash bin

[stark forge]

idk 28% is good

[river vigil]

no it isnt

14% damage if you're over 50% super

might as well use the base mod

[twilit thistle]

Useless for me anyways bc I need joint counter sight. But yea 80 power 😂 wow thanks rising