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[limber furnace]

I only missed Estella and that Cowboy

[cyan tide]

Your pity for Estela was transferred to the Helhest banner, whatever pity you have rn on the Tariq/Gwynn banner will be your pity for Estela

[limber furnace]

Okey

Now I understand

Carrying from one to another, progressive,,not static for each

Which is bad in a way

[bold fog]

Speaking of
Who supports tariq vs estella?

[summer ledge]

It looks like Symmetry got a bit of an indirect spread nerf. The seekers can't lock on to a shielded spread shinka anymore.

[limber furnace]

Tariq is Canadian 100000% percent i believe

[cyan tide]

? Estela doesn't have any support abilities

[limber furnace]

Also his beard is so weird

[livid monolith]

That and Ikora's character quest is all I have

[limber furnace]

You can spam the abilities with Estela no need to fire the gun at all

[cyan tide]

Can you take a screenshot of the quest list?

[limber furnace]

That's why I like her

Also where did those new missions go?

From heaven ops

Don't tell me all of that effort put into making all of those were only for a limited time

[cyan tide]

You mean the strikes? They're in the random map pool, they were only selectable for the first 2 weeks

[limber furnace]

I don't remember the names , but when the season started with those new maps

[livid monolith]

Can't figure out why I cant share pictures in chat. DMd them to you

[limber furnace]

Is always sad when it is some limited stuff

Let it be there so I can play , not do the same 3 maps over and over again

[cyan tide]

They're still in the game, you just can't launch them directly

[limber furnace]

Can't found them anywhere

[cyan tide]

They're in the random map pool, launch a strike and you will randomly get them

[limber furnace]

I don't have 110 power level

Can't access

If I do I will die from one shot from a dang rejected Clanker

Forgot that skinny alien specie name

[cyan tide]

You only need 21k power for normal and 82k for heroic

[limber furnace]

So why is saying 110

Also at 21k you do no damage to a bot, although an elite or boss :)))

In the heroic mode

[cyan tide]

Because you need 82k for heroic

[limber furnace]

At least 82

Which means you need at least 90k plus go be able to play normally

[cyan tide]

You need 82k

For heroic

[limber furnace]

Minimum

[cyan tide]

For normal you only need 21k

[limber furnace]

In heroic you need at least 90k plus to not waste 20 or so minutes in that particular mission

Same goes to onslaught or what was it called

Gauntlet missions

In order to make that 90k power level I have to spend weeks in realm of the IX to max one single yellow artifact

And I have to do 4

For each character cuz now I can't share them enymore

Idk, the old system was better

Also old power lvl scaling

Also why the hell did the characters progress restarted? I had 5 golden medals , now I have none

[dry hare]

peeps , does anyone know the 2nd mod thumbs up for gwynn?

or for shotgun 🫠

[limber furnace]

One sec

You need to decode or get a gun with that yellow thumbs up

A perk won't do it

[thorny frost]

O.o weeks? It takes ~350 refractors now to get + 45 on all of the right stats. Vs 1k+ refractors in the old system. You can finish refractoring 3-4 artifacts in the same amount of time as it took to finish one before (not including the wait for pinnacle).

O not to mention at even season level 1 rewards you will get 3 more refractors per 3 stages…

[limber furnace]

How it that even better when now you have to spam like X4 more times

Also the fact that now in heroic a 70k power lvl character two shooted by a drone

Is bad, man

[thorny frost]

You were really using that many duplicate artifacts on actual characters? Most units needed their own set to be good, substats didn’t always translate over except for maybe a couple units.

I threw them on legendaries sure, but that was for just doing stupid content and not carrying.

I don’t remember it being that bad at early phases of the season, and I was carried with my level 80 artifacts for like 3 phases so not sure what is happening. Light levels are being adjusted down next maintence so if it is rough now can just wait and see?

[limber furnace]

Man I did not spent my entire life in the game in the realm of the IX to spam thousands of artifacts

I did now an heaven heroic mission, I was two shots by a drone . Am at 71k power with Efrideet

With the old system , at 71k I was dominating

Also even after that update, why isn't the power level not adjusted to the new systems

Is a mess

[thorny frost]

What season phase did you push too? The system was balanced based around what part of expanse you could clear before, but it allowed for people to advance by not reaching it too… if you pushed phases to fast this could have happened.

[limber furnace]

Phase push? What is that

[thorny frost]

This phase, as you raise it the difficulty increases as it assumes you have played enough to handle it. Although they ar lowering how much it increases each phase come Thursday

[limber furnace]

That makes zero sense

Cuz I didn't complete eny of that

Why I'm now at phase 5

Can I downgrade?

The devs must have been high cuz why is a drone having the HP and damage output of a boss

[thorny frost]

It had a “time completion” aspect too, you just need to get to specific season levels to upgrade it then, which it isn’t hard to gain some levels just doing front lines and bounties.

[limber furnace]

Is so complicated

So nerdy

I don't have a degree in nerdiness to understand all of that

[thorny frost]

You are fighting phase 5 at phase 1 power. My “phase 1” character is at 75k. If you can see if you can unlock some of the Emanare as that would be easy light power. Use some season tokens and grab a level 90 exotic weapon (or if you have the mat ascend the one you are using) to get a bit more power.

[limber furnace]

Why allowing to progress if I don't have the power to do so

[thorny frost]

Again tho, they heard people commenting on this and are lowering the light requirements too.

[limber furnace]

The old system had logic , this one doesn't

So how the F I do those phases?

I already press to progress to that stupid phase 5, can I go back do the 4 , 3 , 2?

Almost all my weapons are at lvl 90 with the Star tier at 4 stars

Isn't the weapons

[thorny frost]

You must of hit the upgrade phase button once you hit the required level. You should have some seasonal tokens now to use in the shop you can get some basic stuff to help you upgrade/get equips for at least one unit to help progression.

[limber furnace]

Why is it messed up OMG

Do I need to buy what from there?

This occultation stuff?

Damn those names are so nerdy

[thorny frost]

I am at work now, but I can try to help guide you through getting one unit geared up a bit later if you want to tag me later

[limber furnace]

Okei

Cuz is so messy idk what devs had in mind when making all of these

[twilit thistle]

If you care about the rolls on your artifacts, yes. If you dont care, you dont need to buy it from there.

[limber furnace]

But what are those phases?

[twilit thistle]

Phases?

[limber furnace]

And how do I level them up

Yeah, those stupid seasonal phases

[limber furnace]

The only one I completed is phase 1, the other I just pass on trough them

Tac said that this is one a stupid drone can kill me at 78 k power level

Cuz I m playing on another difficulty of something

[twilit thistle]

yea u gotta level up ur stuff. whats stopping you from progressing to the next phase

[limber furnace]

I really don't understand a bit about those phases and what they do

[visual rain]

they unlock new activities and increase your rewards level

[tender mist]

is tariq's scimitar throws in his super doing no damage for anyone else? has happened to me every super ive used on him since i pulled him like 2 hours ago

they hit the enemies but no damage numbers

[limber furnace]

This season is shh

Can't understand one bit

[river vigil]

they need to be in the cage to damage them

[visual rain]

about what

[limber furnace]

Can't wistand 2 shots from a drone in heroic missions at 78k power lvl ..

[tender mist]

this is not true based on the description

[twilit thistle]

Ur loot gets better, and u can upgrade more as you progress.

Do you want a 1 star, or a 5 star

[limber furnace]

I have 90 lvl weapons with all stars

So why they do zero damage

[visual rain]

youre very under leveled probably

whats the power for the activity

[limber furnace]

What?

I have max level

[visual rain]

power level

[twilit thistle]

artifacts 5 star and maxed? Its about 100 stages per artifact, in chaos now. Its spiked shell btw

[visual rain]

what is your power level and what is the activity's power level

[limber furnace]

I said is 78

[visual rain]

and whats the activity

[limber furnace]

Heaven ops heroic mode

[visual rain]

the POWER of the activity...

[limber furnace]

Doesn't say

[visual rain]

yes it does

[limber furnace]

It's saying just between 46-100 level

I'm team level 90

[summer ledge]

Base version then.

[limber furnace]

With 78 k power level

[tender mist]

heroic strieks rn are 82k power

[visual rain]

ok well 78k is like the bare minimum for this season

you need to be higher

[limber furnace]

The recommendation power is at 74k

[tender mist]

so youre under the recommend so youll do much less damage and take much more

[visual rain]

i find that very hard to believe if youre doing no damage as you claim

[limber furnace]

Yes I do

[visual rain]

its either a power issue or a skill issue

[limber furnace]

Literally no damage

[river vigil]

they might now have decent mods

[limber furnace]

What skill issue you mean bro, I do 20k damage per shot with efrideet and the stupid drone has like 2 million hp

[visual rain]

what is a drone

[limber furnace]

Those bots

[visual rain]

shanks?

[limber furnace]

Those flung drones

[tender mist]

a servitor?

is it a big purple ball?

[limber furnace]

Yes, in the real world is called a drone not a stupid nerdy name Shanks

[tender mist]

lmao

[limber furnace]

No

[tender mist]

who is this guy

[limber furnace]

I had the right element

[visual rain]

cool this isnt the real world

you are playing a fictional video game

[limber furnace]

....

[tender mist]

this guy rly just said shanks have a nerdy name im not calling them that lol

[limber furnace]

So teel me why is the SHANKS WITH arc vulnerability don't take damage while I do 20k arc damage with efrideet?

[visual rain]

well efrideet deals precision damage and shanks dont have a crit spot

[tender mist]

anyone else have no clue what is going on

[river vigil]

none of them have an arc vulnerability, they might have an arc shield

[visual rain]

idk man it sounds like a skill issue

[tender mist]

i have to imagine hes talking about one of the boss heavy shanks

[visual rain]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[limber furnace]

No

[tender mist]

does it have a red or yellow health bar

[limber furnace]

Don't take me as a fool , I'm trying to understand what happened to the gsme

[river vigil]

post a screen shout of your build then go to the firing range, spawn whichever enemy you're doing 20k damage and send a screenshot of that to the chat

[tender mist]

im not calling you a fool i just dont understand where or what youre doing. if youre over the recommended power and using the correct element theres no reason youd be doing low damage on a shank of all things

so youre clearly not giving us good information

[thorny frost]

If you got the weapons then you really just need to do some quick artifact farming. The new system allows you to sacrifice artifacts to change substats on a different artifact, so if you are able to even run normal mode chaos quickly you just need to get some halfway decent 5* lvl 90 artifacts (4* can do too but at phase 5 I think 5* should be semi common). Power those up a bit and then can modify them as you go.

Side note, there are some shanks called tracer shanks that are snipers… snipers in general in this game but hard

[limber furnace]

Yes I do low damage, I do 20k per shot but the shanks doesn't take eny

[river vigil]

take screenshots of your build and send them to chat

[tender mist]

can you take some screenshots or clips or something

[limber furnace]

I have all of the artifacts at 5 star level, I just don't have them refactor to max

[tender mist]

because rly not trying to be rude here, but youre not making any sense

its a shank you rly shouldnt have any trouble with it

[river vigil]

show us what they are

[limber furnace]

Yes I do

I don't have perm to show video, img

[river vigil]

you have perms for attaching files

[limber furnace]

One sec

[tender mist]

can you show a picture of the strike screen

the spot where you que for the heaven op

haven

[visual rain]

missing final weapon mastery
missing stars and catalysts for exotic
missing emanare boosts
probably really bad artifacts

so there u go fix those

[tender mist]

oh yeah you need to unlock the seasonal artifact thing man the emenare

it adds a bunch of power

[limber furnace]

What is that?

[visual rain]

power and tons of weapon damage too

[tender mist]

go to the seasonal tab and the emenare tab

[tender mist]

unlock the core node in the middle

[visual rain]

yeah those artifacts suck

[visual rain]

not only are they level 80 but those last 2 arent even good for efrideet at all

[limber furnace]

How so

[tender mist]

max artifact lvl is 90 now

[limber furnace]

So I spend an eternity getting those in the real of the nine for nothing

[tender mist]

use rampaging pact the one you have on your kabr

[elder marten]

U need lv 90

[visual rain]

youre using an artifact based on standing still, but efrideet moves a lot
youre also using an artifact for signature damage, but efrideet deals a ton of weapon damage

you also want better sub stats

[limber furnace]

Say which one to pick from kabr

[tender mist]

https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1491131227489435719

[limber furnace]

1, 2, 3 ,4

[tender mist]

the purple one in the third slot called rampaging pact

summons give damage

[visual rain]

none of these are good lol

[limber furnace]

But efrideet only summons that spear

[tender mist]

everytime you atk an enemy with the sppear in them it counts of a summon

[visual rain]

yeah every 0.3 seconds

[tender mist]

when it does the electricity burst

[limber furnace]

Ok

[tender mist]

go in this channel

it has all the info you need

[limber furnace]

So , basic stuff , I need to farm artifacts again?

[tender mist]

yes very badly

[limber furnace]

For every single character

[tender mist]

today is spike shell so do a bunch of chaos today

[limber furnace]

.....

This is too much man

[tender mist]

and if you wanna play efrideet use the channel i linked you it has the 4 best artifacts and puyt those on your wishlist

[river vigil]

If you're not using every character just focus on getting gear for efrideet

You can get other gear as time passes

[tender mist]

well this is a destiny game. destiny has always been about grinding and now its a gacha game so even more so. focus your favorite character one at a time

[elder marten]

Is there a season 4 Ning fei guide?

[limber furnace]

How about my Gwynn build, brb

[tender mist]

unless you rly like gwynn id highly recommend focusing on efrideet instead. gwynn is pretty bad

[visual rain]

efrideet is also the far better char at T0 if thats all you have

[thorny frost]

Artifact grinding got a lot easier this season. It is honestly not as bad once you get use to it a little bit. There is a lot of info to start so ask us if you have questions. You are able to sacrifice artifacts to get one of their stats on it at rng to the new one. So all those old lvl 80 artifacts can be used to help out your new one in that sense.

[limber furnace]

I did pull her twice, I do have t1 on her, I don't do t6 cuz that is like 500 dollars lol

[visual rain]

not necessarily 500 but yeah

[tender mist]

efrideet is very good and having t1 is nice. if you like her id recommend focusing on her

[visual rain]

if youre good with saving leaves and just get blessing T6 isnt too bad

[limber furnace]

Also this Gwynn:

Thoughts?

[thorny frost]

30 dollars a season if you can get all the Lumia leaves from in game means (on average) will get 1 T6 now.

[limber furnace]

Not the same prices all over the place

With 10k lumina you can get only 60 pulls

[thorny frost]

The game increased the amount of draw sources /Lumia leaves too.

[limber furnace]

And I cannot farm 60k lumina per month lol

You have to pay

[thorny frost]

I said season, which is 3 months.

[limber furnace]

And those prices , those prices are out from hell itself

[lavish carbon]

50k got me to t6

[tender mist]

honestly none of your builds will be good while they have tier 2 guns, lvl 80 artifacts and you dont have the emenare

get the emenare and farm max lvl artifacts

[limber furnace]

Where do I get that emenare?

[tender mist]

it should jsut be in the seasonal hub menu

[limber furnace]

Show cuz I have no ideea

[tender mist]

the menu marked season

[thorny frost]

While working on units I suggest just unlocking the nodes for Emanare, don’t level them up. 50% of the light power is obtained by unlocking, about 80(?)% of the stats are obtained by unlocking.

[limber furnace]

3 months , you get 10000 lumina from the tree thing

[tender mist]

pull our your ghost by pressing tab and press the box that says seaso

and at the bottom should be a button that says emenare

i think i cant remember if you have to pick it up somewhere i think its just there

[limber furnace]

Not here

Also I play on mobile

[tender mist]

season homepage

then at the bottom left of the screen shouild be a button that says emenare

wait youre season lvl 106 and dont have emenare?

[limber furnace]

Yes

Idk what is that, I just threw those phases without knowing a bit

[thorny frost]

Bottom left

[thorny frost]

If you want to see the nerd math it is here #💭│main-chat message

[limber furnace]

This stuff, what does it do?

[lavish carbon]

idk read top left

[twilit thistle]

Dear netease: the shifting gates bots are too easy to win in a match against. #1 ranked player, but #1 worst sg player.

[tender mist]

click on the bright thing in the middle and level it up

then click on the small dots and buy the nodes

[visual rain]

based on the massive list of stats on the right side and the fact that power is listed there... what do you think it does

[thorny frost]

He might have to do some public events

[twilit thistle]

Me:

[limber furnace]

A lol

[river vigil]

did tariq meet the goat of shifting gates?

[tender mist]

99% of the time shifting gates bots are a joke, but occasionally ikora bots will have auto lock on rockets from across map, and also there are 37 of them behind that kabr barrier and they all ignore eachother and swarm you cause of you have the nucleus lol

[limber furnace]

Do I need those stones elsewhere?

Or I can just dismantle

[limber furnace]

That's why I don't play pvp

[twilit thistle]

wdym? Also if u look at that persons score, u can see its an odd number. Thats bc on the season open I gave them something to remember, and made sure they placed 6th.

[river vigil]

ikora bots having infinite heavy is an interesting choice

[limber furnace]

My nightmare

[tender mist]

most of the time i just run thru those lobbies but there have been a few rly pitiful ones where i just got destroyed by their rockets lol. but even then still come in first place

[limber furnace]

I hate pvp

[river vigil]

I hate that none of the bots have 100 data on them :T

[twilit thistle]

nvm i c someone has lost again, making it an even number.

[twilit thistle]

They shoudlnt be based on a user who is a tenured professor's score. Thats for the new players. As you climb, they should become increasingly harder to beat.

[thorny frost]

At least the rewards are better now (the purple item you need for Emanare, could get from Condor too but you probably need to power up a bit first).

[river vigil]

I have a triumph I need to finish XD

[thorny frost]

Also I saw you had mods that weren’t + 10. Front line rewards with keys now give Möbius clusters. You only need 20 per mod (all shared named mods will get leveled at the same time), so that might help. It is also the best spot to try and get the new mods, it drops a material that can craft into a choice mod item.

[steep jasper]

@pine swan 👀

[twilit thistle]

If you are below 4,000 it should stay the same. Dude im complaining about is at 20,000 bc he afk farmed it

[pine swan]

👀

[river vigil]

Do the other bot teams not win if you afk?

[steep jasper]

This guy

[twilit thistle]

Not usually, no. I think it scales based off your score iirc.

[dusty spire]

Man Tariq arc

Just blowing me through rapid

Side arms or lmg ? lol

[twilit thistle]

Make it like the expanse so like every 1000 or something ur a little more under light 💀

[steep jasper]

You mean male Gwynn with less aesthetic

[limber furnace]

Also with a squirrel Beard

[steep jasper]

Fr

[keen oasis]

So they are shadow dropping prestige mode or leviathan tomorrow?

[river vigil]

prestige elivagar

[oak kettle]

i mean shadow dropping isn't quite how i'd put it given this has been here since s4 launch

[candid phoenix]

If they’re truly adding leviathan there’s probably gonna be an event announcement, but that’s cope

It’s probably gonna be adept versions of our current onslaught stages at phase breakthrough

[thorny frost]

As a reminder leviathian is one of the strikes too, not the full name but it is a strike still.

[keen oasis]

So basically just content mode lol

[river vigil]

is a way to farm adept mods

[keen oasis]

Ahh makes sense then

[proud violet]

Wonder what the power requirements will be for the prestige challenge

[river vigil]

105530 is the power req

[candid phoenix]

Power might spike again with phase breakthrough until they fix it next maintenance

[obtuse chasm]

Shadow dropping?

[limber furnace]

So, what artifacts should I pick for efrideet?

I checked the ones in that #1491131227489435719 but doesn't seams so Good

[obtuse chasm]

Nourishing pact, conversion, rampaging pact, spiral

[limber furnace]

1234?

[obtuse chasm]

Yes

[limber furnace]

In that exact order of yours?

Okei

[dusty spire]

Right now is the time to hit up feedback

I’ve been looking over what the community has to say over the last month and it’s been quite clear we have real healthy discussions, whilst we don’t agree on everything I believe that we have some really good points to consider sending over.

[cursive depot]

dang 800 games this season

[limber pine]

Don't even look at mine lmao

[twilit thistle]

😭 🐐

[sharp talon]

almost forgot to do my 1 sg match for the week just 1 hr before reset 💀

[sharp talon]

he doesn't go immune there?

[twilit thistle]

No ads touch you, he servitor made him immune once but then broke line of sight

I stood still, with 100% recharge speed, and just spammed abilites till he went down.

[limber pine]

Ong?

[oak kettle]

does the boss not snipe you there either?

[twilit thistle]

100% recharge. I had about 2 seconds where I wasnt immune

[river vigil]

the boss can't one shot efrideet

so you just shoot spear and dodge

[oak kettle]

ah makes sense, this cheese shall make a fine addition to my collection

[twilit thistle]

1 of the 3 that i have found in there. Idk if any other char cant beat it ngl

[river vigil]

tbf with 100% ability charge you can stand with the mobs and dps the boss

[vast arch]

love getting people who just sit afk in games

[limber furnace]

Got them, now I need to farm for refactoring

Also which is better

[obtuse chasm]

What a coincidence I love afking in games

[limber furnace]

?

Which one is better between those two?

Better for now

[obtuse chasm]

Second is decent you want elemental, shield, health, defense tho

[limber furnace]

I can't grind for indefinitely

So right side is better?

[twilit thistle]

@ashen swift How.

[vast arch]

morgrans takes less than 3 minutes if you actually play but we sat in there for 5 minutes thanks to the "thrower"

[twilit thistle]

.

[ashen swift]

ikora :)

i almost cleared it on efri though i just got lazy.

[twilit thistle]

rlly? ts has ability recharge and rate of fire tho u totally coulda done it (and told me how)

[ashen swift]

yeah i got nimble and the dmg increase for hitting enemies rapidy and couldn't clear it on efri.

i probably could've if i stuck to grinding it, my best run was the last wave with only one of the brigands left wiht like ~35% hp.

but i just cleared it on ikora for the lolz.

[neon pebble]

Sony has owned Bungie since 2022, reason for bungie downfall is Sony themselves who are also failing

[twilit thistle]

same. I am pretty much unkillable in there, just running chiaroscuro+healing plasma. I stood still and just kept shooting, coudlnt deal enough dmg tho it seemed.

[sharp talon]

i was trying out d2, got past cosmodrome and could only play dlc after that. so confusing lol. worst exp ever for new players it seems

[twilit thistle]

wdym?

I didnt even have the dlcs and was playing with @naive ingot and @tight talon

[sharp talon]

like after doing cosmodrome the traveler just went up it played cutscenes and stuff. the tower looks very different

there doesnt seem to be a regular campaign that i can play after that, only dlc

[twilit thistle]

yea, u can still level up and play the other activites tho.

essentially the stuff u do after u beat the campaign.

[sharp talon]

yea i wanted to experience the story first though. the story is so disjointed it doesnt make sense

skipping so much

too bad i really liked cosmodrome

[twilit thistle]

its been removed iirc. Even if u buy them, youd start off after the first few dlcs. Also youd miss d1 which, imo is where the best parts of it are.

[ashen swift]

i keep getting messages in game about the rapid fire leaderboard lmfao.

[twilit thistle]

bc ur the goat

[ashen swift]

ikora is the goat**

im mid as hell.

[sharp talon]

anyone else tried ikora on rapid fire on na?

[karmic chasm]

Answer my dm pookie

[ashen swift]

no lmfao.

[sharp talon]

we have two ikoras on 95 here XD

[ashen swift]

they gotta lock in i can't be the only ikora who beat 96.

[sharp talon]

i will try 96 again after phase change 😂

[ashen swift]

booooooooooo.

it's only cool beforehand.

im still malding about impact being arc.

[sharp talon]

i cant believe that tbh. i thought they would only repeat void and solar

there is no good arc impact

[ashen swift]

time to get my xuan wei maxed out i guess.

might be tariqs time to shine once hte emanare progresses.

like theres just no way ikora is doing that stage off of void WITH an impact shinka 💀

[twilit thistle]

🤔 i wonder if the solar comets are just as bugged on 93 as they are in others.

[vast arch]

5 minute Q for Gladsheim 😭

[balmy raft]

[vast arch]

2 phase in 2026 is criminal

[river vigil]

I did my job

Something tells me matchmade prestige might not meet the damage check

[vast arch]

I just want my lattice man why this gotta be so hard

maybe I'll try to get my lattice from Issakis

[river vigil]

do people even queue tabernacle anymore?

[vast arch]

idk but I think they can spawn bots

[bitter estuary]

just issakis yeah

[oak kettle]

does tabernacle even give lattice?

[vast arch]

yeah

[oak kettle]

honestly my go to would be evi first enc

[twilit thistle]

@visual rain issakis mentioned

[oak kettle]

only needs 2 competent people

[vast arch]

nobody in issakis queue

[oak kettle]

did they ever patch ye olde break in solo tech?

and if they did patch it again did they patch it well enough to account for 5 ikora blinks

[twilit thistle]

I think there’s bots now

[vast arch]

you need at least 3 players

[oak kettle]

cus this is an option if you really want em

[vast arch]

@twilit thistle stop queueing for sparrow racing

[nimble sinew]

Whats the best legendary sniper for efrideet?

[vast arch]

Mythic? IST3 with double thumbs

[nimble sinew]

Yea thats the rarity lol. Im D2 brained

[twilit thistle]

😭 I was in the shower

[bitter estuary]

ballsklava

[twilit thistle]

@visual rain u had one job 😭

[vast arch]

trying to get this lattice is damn near impossible if I don't have any friends online

[delicate mango]

I wonder if will get clan wars

[vast arch]

Kinda sucks they put this super important upgrade material behind a 6 person mode that requires people to actually be decent at the game

[bitter estuary]

AND have a perfect build

phase 7 hvergilmir required 4 efrideets 1 hh 1 umeko to 1 phase and they all need to be t6

[vast arch]

That's wild

I am stuck because I can't upgrade any of my exotics

[bitter estuary]

i really hope they significantly decrease the power req

[oak kettle]

did they fully patch solo break in then?

[vast arch]

We have a gwynn and Ning in gladsheim

[bitter estuary]

you can clear gladsheim with anyone lmao

wait its gladsheim

ginunaga is fine for anyone

but gladsheim is a huge dps check

[oak kettle]

Yeah any of the encounters with bosses are probably not the way to go

[thorny frost]

Are you currently queing? I can try to que in what ever one you are doing

[twilit thistle]

@vast arch do I need to kill the break in bosses

[oak kettle]

You want something that needs minimal teamwork, so ginunaga (1 person in realm, 1 person outside), break in (if the solo is still possible, this is the obvious choice) or the menace above (1 person outside of rooms rolling the dice on random terminal entries)

[twilit thistle]

That’d be the easiest for sure

So easy an Umeko could farm for mvp in there

[vast arch]

ts so frustrating man like idec about the mats anymore

[oak kettle]

@vast arch again, if you genuinely can’t find anymore to do it with, NetEase may not have patched the solo break in route since the first time they patched it. No promises, but I’ve chucked a video of it in my bio and it’d be worth a shot

[vast arch]

4 failed attempts at gladsheim all with 10 minute queues

[vast arch]

I appreciate it, I don't really feel like doing all that tbh

[twilit thistle]

Yeah no way I’m touching that one I couldn’t even get Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] thru it

Doesn’t the other one auto fill?

[thorny frost]

O dang that definitely seems to have changed, remember it was one of the easiest before

[vast arch]

they screwed up the HP scaling so bad with the power inceases. Used to be able to 1 phase with 2 competent players

[oak kettle]

Fair enough, I don’t think it’s that hard personally (I did it on Gwynn way back when, should be trivial on hairkora if it still exists) but that’s fair

[twilit thistle]

I think they addressed that, and plan on fixing the hp

[oak kettle]

Yeah this Thursday I think

[lavish carbon]

yeah they are looking into it

[oak kettle]

Theres a note somewhere on the website about an urgent response to player feedback regarding power scaling in onslaught

[vast arch]

I shouldn't have to go solo a raid encounter because I want the resources. Also shouldn't need 6 people running meta characters and builds to get through an encounter

[lavish carbon]

not onslaught only - everything

[oak kettle]

Even better

[bitter estuary]

here

its not ingame fyi

[twilit thistle]

Swore it had bots

[vast arch]

I really hope they actually fix it. I feel like the problem comes from them scaling the HP and DMG/DR of enemies when increasing the power. I would be happy if they just put everything back down to like 60-70k power and put us into power suppression

[oak kettle]

The old raid does but they only fill if you have 3 people or smtn

Which doesnt really help when literally nobody plays them

[lavish carbon]

not elivagar sadly

[bitter estuary]

elivagar has no bots

onslaught s1 requires 3 real players to start with bots

[vast arch]

Nah only OG onslaught has bot and you need 3 human players to get bots

[twilit thistle]

I’m down for break in but idk about the others

[vast arch]

ngl I rage quit and shut off my PC after the 4th wipe lmao

[oak kettle]

So if you can’t get a good team for the new raid or 3 people for the old raid you’re forced into solo break in

Did they adjust power on the old raid? If they didn’t (or if the adjustment is reasonable) solo tabernacle is also on the table

Thats rng checks instead of skill checks tho

[vast arch]

Yeah they increased the power of everything

[twilit thistle]

😭

[oak kettle]

I say this as if I didn’t run solo break in twice a week every week for like 2 months to get all the crossbows I needed

I may be biased

[twilit thistle]

y solo? i litterally probably did 200 or more of those

[flat flame]

hate that each phase I go up the damn light power goes up by 10x

[twilit thistle]

Q always fills

[oak kettle]

Because randoms in S1 were terrible and it was either do it solo or do solo strats in normal lobbies if I wanted to do that enc

And doing it solo meant no queue times

[twilit thistle]

I would teach them, or just carry. Never learned the solo stuff, i did figure out how to do something tho iirc. Think i would cross without anyone on plates.

[vast arch]

Yeah I would just do all the mechanics in a public lobby lol

[oak kettle]

I tried that for a bit and just gave up eventually

Some people just do not want to learn

[twilit thistle]

I was farming this

[oak kettle]

EMEA server doesnt help tbf

[vast arch]

was so much easier back then cuz everything just fell over when you looked in it's general direction

[oak kettle]

Half the people in here dont speak English

And don’t know the translate button exists

(If it even did back then)

It was just easier to learn how to shoulder as much of the burden as I could

In break in that meant learning to do it myself, side benefit included being able to skip matchmaking and just run it solo

Menace Above i stopped going into rooms and started hitting the terminals outside for rng checks cus statistically That just works

And tabernacle I pray for 1 random to be good enough to do rooms

[twilit thistle]

Borealis was unbeatble till maru arrived. Nobody could beat the dmg i would put out with it

[oak kettle]

Holy moly full bot team is real

[twilit thistle]

i got this dont worry

[thorny frost]

O that is actually good, the bots can semi handle mechanics (maybe? Never tried break in)

[oak kettle]

If there’s one thing bots are good at it’s not dying

[lavish carbon]

yeah they take keys go over and shoot rockets

[oak kettle]

They tend to just ignore things that should kill them

So you should be fine if you just go second so you’re always around to kill servitors for them

[vast arch]

Wait how did you get a full bot team?

[thorny frost]

I will have to remember that for next week, I did one tabernacle, and carried one groups damage wise through Gladsheim (I got lucky that they had semi good dps still and did mechanics).

[twilit thistle]

I think one of them refused.

[oak kettle]

Just wait for Thursday patch before touching onslaught this week

It should fix the power issues and the boss encounters will become easy again

Well, outside of prestige

[thorny frost]

Fair enough the light requirement for phase 9 will be stupid XD

[timber citrus]

Bro what the f, hahaha.. You see the rewards for Prestige raid from the asia server?

[rain remnant]

Guys please help, I'm trying to ascend my level 90 gun but it wont allow me, it says reach season phase 1 to unlock

[timber citrus]

2% adept mod drop rate and you can't claim your boosted Onslaught rewards 😂

[bitter estuary]

you need to get to team level 90

[bitter estuary]

1 mobius clusters im crine

[thorny frost]

Should of had a lattice with it at least

[pure narwhal]

On the season quest "claim boosted rewards in adventures" what should I do to advance it ?

[rain remnant]

I'm in team level 90 already

[twilit thistle]

@vast arch i can totally carry u in here, if figured out how to get the requirement down to 2.

[timber citrus]

Boosted rewards are the things that have a limited number of rewards per week. Legendary campaign, Morgan, legacy, for example

[oak kettle]

20/20 Strikes/Blitz, 3/3 Onslaught, 1/1 Morgrans, 1/1 Shifting Gates and 1/1 Legacy

Per week

[pure narwhal]

Thanks a lot !

[oak kettle]

Also the exotic cores from legendary campaign

[twilit thistle]

Strat is just to die, and get respawned on the other side.

The bots cant even beat it btw, they just die repeatedly.

[flat flame]

any tips on the expanse endless and being under light level?

[twilit thistle]

You will always be under light level. See where it says "ability comet", that can vary, but if u tap/click it it tells you what all gifts of chaos you can get. Plan those out accordingly.

[oak kettle]

Eh, always is a bit of a stretch, you can comfortably be above it until like 51-60 with current phase caps

[twilit thistle]

Anyone who beats those will want to push further.

The rewards scale.

[oak kettle]

But at that point onwards it is careful planning, playing your life and using efrideet because she just won’t die

[river vigil]

i have to farm better emanare gems to try and max my tariq's damage

[twilit thistle]

😭

[flat flame]

welp time to suffer

[twilit thistle]

Hardest one is the 3rd stage. After that, you can upgrade whatever it is you need.

You can leave, and swap weapons/artifacts btw, and then load the save 🙂

[river vigil]

The timer is the only enemy tariq has in the expanse

[thorny frost]

Gah I don’t know if I can make it up to that stage with my Estela XD arc rounds are painful

[thorny frost]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hero6-baymax-slow-not-fast-i-am-not-fast-gif-4086977

[timber citrus]

OK very funny joke but when are they gonna put Tariq's real Super in the game

[thorny frost]

Just feed it to the gun

[twilit thistle]

If estela isnt broken when she reruns I will crash out. Its time they actually fixed something.

[worn musk]

Hoping maru cracked wen she returns

[river vigil]

Satiyaaliksni is actually goated on him

[timber citrus]

I'd run it if his super had a short timer but that's so much time spent without Manifest equipped

[river vigil]

I like mesicku more than manifesto

[timber citrus]

The police are already en route

[twilit thistle]

I think hes meant to run whatever shield it is in cordon.

dudes built to be the ultimate support, for a support (helhest)

[thorny frost]

I am just hoping that her summons survivability is looked at. If I could actually keep level 3 summons against an Ogre I feel it would be a lot better >.> but their survivability isn’t worth an artifact slot for, and even with 100% health increase one pound feels like it kills them.

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

That helhest isnt in my range

But honestly, most of the random helhest I get are 50 yards back for the majority of the run

[twilit thistle]

200% summon dmg increase needed

[dire depot]

I should’ve played this game along time ago. Such a good game

[twilit thistle]

You would make xuan wei look good if he was turned into a 5 star as is without any changes.

[thorny frost]

~ 4 mill dps might be over kill XD

[river vigil]

Ever since condensate released I've seen an influx of t0 helhest that arent doing damage

[twilit thistle]

might? Ok fine. 400%

[thorny frost]

lol

[thorny frost]

Symptom of being told “best unit in the game”… game is still skill based so have to learn the unit XD.

[twilit thistle]

wait till next season when theres like a million of them that get the free 40 condensate, followed by the rerun shortly after.

[river vigil]

[oak kettle]

Honestly a perfect description for him, he handles elemental shields, is great for spread shinkas and decent for rapid fire, while sharing a very tanky shield that goes anywhere. It perfectly fills the gaps in helhest’s abilities

All it requires is a helhest that knows that her proper positioning is wherever her teammates are, not the next continent over

[bold fog]

so rigged

[crisp shuttle]

Which one is better and what does uncommon mean? Only been playing a week 🥲

[bold fog]

uncommon is almost all boosted 3+4 perks

adept is max boosted 3+4 perks

[pine verge]

Manifesto needs firerate or the scorch ticks to give stacks lol

[crisp shuttle]

Ah so it naturally has the upgrades cause I don’t upgrade the perks on either

[pine verge]

Real

[oak kettle]

Uncommon means it has exactly 1 mythic perk that has both potential perk upgrades.

[twilit thistle]

That’s why I invested a little into him, he’s kinda like a Swiss Army knife

[crisp shuttle]

Adept would be one with 2 mythic perks both with 2 potential upgrades?

[oak kettle]

As for which is better, honestly neither? The double upgrade perk is the one you want in that slot imo, so keep the uncommon one for now. When you get a godroll with both that perk and the better option in the first slot you can use the uncommon one as perk upgrade material to move the double upgrade onto it

[pine verge]

Tariq's super has no business being a roaming super, should just be a one and done

The boomerangs dont even work outside of the circle lol

[crisp shuttle]

Interesting, yeah so a godroll would be one with both recommended perks as well as both potential upgrade slots?

[bitter estuary]

just go for double thumbs up or beast trap+time marches on

[oak kettle]

Godroll I think is bear trap with the perk thats shiny on your uncommon one

[bitter estuary]

you’ll get more perk upgrades that you can forge into the weapon

[rose wasp]

Is the get 7 players to 84k bugged im late doing challenges

[oak kettle]

Hence keep the uncommon one cus getting a double upgrade perk is a nightmare without a natural drop to use as material

And you happen to have one

[kindred lagoon]

Does anyone else experience locked onto Melee while in Singularity Chaos? Like you cant equip a weapon no matter what you do, forced to punch your way through? 😭😭

[oak kettle]

The Spike Shell upgrade

Increase Melee Damage, enemies take damage from hitting you, weapons are banned

[crisp shuttle]

Yep

[kindred lagoon]

NO WAY thats all that it was? This has happened like 5 times and I thought it was a bug, that makes way more sense!

[oak kettle]

Funnily enough as bad as no weapons sounds it’s probably the best modifier for consistent efficient runs, esp with the emanare melee perk

[crisp shuttle]

I think I actually have 4 or so

I have like 120 of the same gun rn

[kindred lagoon]

I was going to say that its an adventurous way to go about clearing the level thats for sure 😅

[crisp shuttle]

Been grinding strike for them for so long now

Hoping for god roll

[kindred lagoon]

Thank you for clearing that up 🙏

[oak kettle]

Upgrade Boxer and either Ability regen speed or low health enemy damage, pick a character with good movement, ability comet and melee comet, and just run to the exit spamming melee at anything in sight

[bold fog]

who uses vulnerability

[river vigil]

[oak kettle]

Spike Shell filters out any encounters which require or recommend long range, including the bosses, which happens to be all the slow encounters

[bold fog]

only?

[kindred lagoon]

Haha I'll give it a shot

[oak kettle]

It also filters out every single weapon based blessing so you get very consistent blessing options

[bold fog]

spike best

[river vigil]

I think some gwynn players used to run it on their artifacts

[oak kettle]

You can get the exact same run every single time, no rng at all

[bold fog]

the defense boss is slow tho

[oak kettle]

I mean that describes half of them

Colossus, Centurion, Wizard and Knight are all relatively slow, but still faster than the ones spike shell removes

Heavy shank just falls over and captain is aight

[bold fog]

fallen boss is ez
but there's like 2 hell slow defense bosses and a slow 2x plate boss

[oak kettle]

Hydra, Servitor and Minotaur simply dont exist on spike shell runs fortunately

[twilit thistle]

I’m so mad rn

[sharp talon]

that seems good

[oak kettle]

Was abt to say looks alright and then I saw the power

[twilit thistle]

Worst quality. It’s a god roll except it’s the actual worst quality 😭

[oak kettle]

I mean for power locked activities it’s fine

But for everything else…

Gotta love the mods that buff both weapons, they’re great

[twilit thistle]

😭

[oak kettle]

All of the clusters

Nom nom

Hope you weren’t planning on levelling that third of emanare this week

[sharp talon]

ive never seen an adept mod with something other than the lowest roll

is it possible to drop yet?

[oak kettle]

Phase 8 is at midday for emea afaik so farming them is available then

But we’ve been able to get them since adept strikes and blitz

With good rng

[sharp talon]

yea from those shards. based on what people have posted here, i dont think ive seen anyone get other than the lowest roll as of yet

[oak kettle]

I have a low-mid roll

[lean ferry]

And be sad after you get your mod
With bad rng

[oak kettle]

It’s not bare minimum but it ain’t far off

Worst than non-adept max

[worn musk]

Yea my adept mod is trash

[lean ferry]

Hoping i get a maxed universal one so i can not stress too hard

[oak kettle]

Love estella’s pulse rifle having 2 mods that improve my exotic lmg’s fire rate and one that improves its damage

[thorny frost]

Heir go brrrrr. But I have also used it for powering up furies during an arc expanse (except the adept as it didn’t drop the one I have gotten so far).

[twilit thistle]

I already dismantled one this week 💀 about to do it again

[oak kettle]

Oh yeah the reverse is even better if you have furies maxxed out

Then you aren’t even concerned in the slightest by the heavy ammo penalty from the damage buff mod

[worn musk]

Rs same goat

[crisp shuttle]

I have a weapon mod that hosts fire rate for both weapons by about 16% with some other thins too (I think 30% bigger mag and +30 handling?) power is 1600 or something close to that, good or no?

*1420

Other one is 1560

[oak kettle]

If it got the checkmark it’s good powerwise, as for the mod effect that one is typically the best for Estella as it improves corruption build rate

[thorny frost]

Thunder lord was disappointing when I tried it so been using heir + arc mythic machine gun for endless. It is a nice combo, heir still wins but furies is at least useable with those mods now.

[crisp shuttle]

What’s the checkmark look like?

[oak kettle]

Same as on anything else

It’ll be there if it’s the highest power roll possible

Your scope mod has it

[crisp shuttle]

Ah, mkay nice

Yeah scope mod lowkey op I just need to max it out

[twilit thistle]

Do they even give u higher power? Thats crazy. The lowest quality one should be the highest power of a non adept.

[oak kettle]

I have simply rejected Estella for endless due to getting jumped by 700 fallen on one floor

[crisp shuttle]

It’s just a base +30% damage with an additional +15% midrange damage

[oak kettle]

I have gone the way of the efrideet instead

[thorny frost]

I am being stubborn, I want to see how far I can get her (without spending forever and a day retrying) in spread/rapidfire.

[twilit thistle]

If not it literally makes no sense to go for it, unless it’s meaningfully better. That’s simple logic of a developer that balanced the game to be higher difficulty=under power.

[thorny frost]

Currently 73 rapid fire and 63 spread, but haven’t tried spread for a bit.

[crisp shuttle]

Use simpler words bro my dyslexic self is tryna figure out what you mean 😭

[twilit thistle]

Our developers are trash.

ChatGPT would be better than ts

[thorny frost]

That wasn’t an adept mod he showed, but I do believe the worst adept is lower light then best regular mod

[oak kettle]

Old exotic mods are static, new mods range from old mod to 1520, adepts range from a bit higher than old mods, lower than max new mods to higher than max new mods

Or something like that

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah, I’ve picked that up over the last week of gameplay

[oak kettle]

Adept mods aren’t guaranteed to be higher power but their average roll is around the peak of what we were using before

[thorny frost]

Looks like adapt go from 1,360-1,720 when new mods go from 1,320-1,520

[crisp shuttle]

Just picked up the game 7 days ago and even though I have 72k power I can’t do some stuff cause it needs over 100k… why isn’t it a tad easier for new players?

[thorny frost]

O I was looking at an adept that could roll lower.

[twilit thistle]

Ok yea u can see clearly they set this up to be not so rng. There is no way these odds are equal.

[oak kettle]

Ah, you see, that is called NetEase doing an oopsie and making everything increase in power each week

Don’t worry they said they’d fix it on Thursday

[twilit thistle]

This is further backed by numerous reports of players claiming chaos is not so rng either, as well as weapon upgrades.

[crisp shuttle]

I hope they do cause bro I legitimately cannot play some things

[crisp shuttle]

Chaos is where I got my stuff and it is all kind of eh power wise

[thorny frost]

Endless expanse and cordon are designed that you are suppose to get stronger to attempt the harder stages. The other parts (like raids) they over balanced up based on phases. When the phase system first released it kind of power gated you so you couldn’t raise to fast without “showing” you could handle it.

[crisp shuttle]

While I understand that I’m talking about like blitz and stuff

[signal spade]

blitz heroic is 83 lol

[twilit thistle]

I have observed numerous times, that if you try and upgrade an artifact, it has bias to fill in the one that none of your other artifacts will work with. Example, you have 10 with super. The one you do want to upgrade does not have it, the one you try has this, and 1 other that you want. The one it transfers is super.

[crisp shuttle]

The basic ones have 96k power requirement (yes it’s adept level of them and I can do the lower level ones but I just started the game and adept is the only mode that will give me the things I’m grinding for)

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah

[signal spade]

isnt adept phase 5+

[crisp shuttle]

I cannot tell you how many resources I dumped into artifacts, and 19k is all I have to show for it

[twilit thistle]

It does so as if it’s a magnet. That’s what I mean. It does not feel random.

[crisp shuttle]

3 for me

That’s why I have a problem with it

[signal spade]

you get access to adept at phase 3? lmao

[crisp shuttle]

Yep

[signal spade]

i guess the alternative is them saying you cant go in here

[crisp shuttle]

Again I’ve only been playing a week

[thorny frost]

Yea I feel like we got it at phase 5, when everyone had like 5* artifacts

[signal spade]

then it wouldve made more sense to just lock you out of it at that point

[crisp shuttle]

Kinda doing that with the power requirement I just get 1 tapped by most things, lol

[crisp shuttle]

Yes, or for like the first 2-3 weeks slowly increase the power scaling of things as I play them so it’s not hitting me out right with 10k plus power walls between activities (unlock a new mode want to play it then find out I’m 12k under power and have to spend hours grinding to be able to play it and have fun, happed like 3 times)

And I love the game, don’t get me wrong

[twilit thistle]

They need to start buffing rewards, considering there’s no way those developers planned out anything other than a reset next season. Note this also invalidates their new light experience rework, unless the intent was to torture them.

[crisp shuttle]

It’s just annoying that I’m 7 days in and it has close to 100k power requirements for things

[signal spade]

yea im just not sure what youd get out of adept strikes anyway unless you think you need to be farming the 2% adept mod pieces in week 1

[thorny frost]

That is actually what the phases did early on, we had to wait each week before advancing phases. You just jumped through it fast.

Due to the lack of 1 week lock out

[crisp shuttle]

That’s also true

Yeah I got to watch the power requirements actually go up with my levels and power… lol

[crisp shuttle]

That’s exactly what I want I’m tryna get my adepts in everything to try and get 100k power finally but the requirement is 96k…

[signal spade]

yea but thats like a colossal waste of time to focus on realistically

[thorny frost]

You don’t need adept for 100k, the most it will give is 200 more power

[signal spade]

you could hit the 1/50 3x in a week which would be insanely lucky and still get worse power than a frontlines on a gun you dont use

[crisp shuttle]

Sill better

[signal spade]

you also only get 20 chances at it a week

[thorny frost]

Front lines is probably a better starting point (and Morgan’s prey) even if you get the adept mod you need 105 clusters to max it out, which would max out 5 mods.

[twilit thistle]

Im willing to say it’s a roadmap that wasn’t adhered to, which I think iirc is crossing into illegal territory, but I don’t remember the specifics.

[crisp shuttle]

I’ve been spamming front lines and strike trying to farm out a fully adept/godroll gun

[thorny frost]

To my knowledge a roadmap is not a binding legal document. At best false advertising maybe?

[signal spade]

yea just get your phase level up so all your guns drop t5 with better perk affinity

[crisp shuttle]

I’ve spent so many already… I had like 115 but they’re all gone now…

[crisp shuttle]

How do I do that

[signal spade]

im sure chinas really scared of american advertising laws

[thorny frost]

The good news is that Mods will level up all mods of the same name when you do it.

[signal spade]

your phase?

[crisp shuttle]

I didn’t know that

[thorny frost]

Also for artifacts you can pass up refactors to higher star tier (it will pas the base number too).

[crisp shuttle]

Need to get lvl 66 to get to next phase

Season level already level 90 for my team

[signal spade]

lmao thats crazy they let you even look at adept at level 50

[thorny frost]

We have had it what… 2 weeks now? Or are we actually on week 3?

That was most definitely not unlocked for us at phase 3 tho.

[crisp shuttle]

I’ve refactored all of mine a bunch

[crisp shuttle]

Adept 2 as well, but only on legendary campaign with is a more reasonable 82k power

[thorny frost]

Yea I was just letting you know that they aren’t technically wasted. As you can pass up the refactors of lvl 90 artifacts to other level 90 artifacts of the same name.

[crisp shuttle]

Ok! That’s good then cause I want those same ones just with better perks (more over shield…) and better power

[thorny frost]

Raising stars for artifacts is harder then it would first appears. We don’t get a lot of the upgrade mat outside an event.

[twilit thistle]

You’d be surprised, china isn’t a fan of it either. Also, google/apple are in the USA 🤓 (and a guilty verdict violated both of their own TOS that app developers have to adhere to)

[crisp shuttle]

I have a bunch saved up from being a new light but I’m starting to run dry

[crisp shuttle]

Nerd (I’m teasing you)

[thorny frost]

O also you can “transfer” substats from one artifact to another of the same name by sacrificing it. Semi rng but makes building the perfect artifact a lot easier (from the view point of the old system).

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah, I need to grind the resources to do so though

My accomplishments from 1 week of gameplay as a new light

[thorny frost]

For 1 week I would say that is a good start. If you plan to use jolder her current best weapon combo is night after night, farmable in sparrow racing by setting it as your blitz focus, and Partridge Sky… is that still a new light event to get one?

[crisp shuttle]

Total hours: 42

[crisp shuttle]

I have 9 copies of night after night I belive

[thorny frost]

She isn’t topping charts but as she covers rapid/impact and partridge can also do spread she is very versatile.

[crisp shuttle]

And partridge light if that’s the best sword?

Better?

lol

[thorny frost]

It is her current preferred for builds, it can do some damage. But again, she isn’t topping charts lol.

Let me grab mine quick

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah, but better than wolf I’ve heard, and he’s my best performer rn

Right now I have an auto rifle that does 10k with every shot (with all damage multipliers) I need to test another to see if it does better

[thorny frost]

(Slot 1 ring of abundance I am switching out, just a placeholder as I reroll my other artifact).

[crisp shuttle]

Nice I actually have most of those artifacts

[thorny frost]

Radiation set is a little risky as it will slowly eat you away, so it might need good substats and stats built in before working well. It does allow for a lot easier skill spamming with her.

[obtuse chasm]

@indigo solar 👀

[crisp shuttle]

Don’t have resources to upgrade sword right now, (it’s 60 and current equipped one is better in all metrics, for the moment. I think I’ll wait for the one from the event if it’s level 90?)

[thorny frost]

Not sure what it is now XD. But as you already do have wolf I wouldn’t spread your resources to thin, I was just giving some hints to look into if you find yourself with the stuff for it later. First thing is get one unit up to do more content, and a guild that can possibly help out if you haven’t found one yet.

[crisp shuttle]

I’m with TDB

[tidal python]

I’m having trouble with chapter 2-3 where I need to complete realm of the IX singularity chaos. My stats are super low. Is this where I hit the grindwall?

[crisp shuttle]

A little, but you will feel it at 5-2 more, I’d recommend taking a break from the story and playing whatever other modes you can (if none then I wish you luck…) and just having fun with other parts of the game while you obtain better gear in the meantime

[tidal python]

Ahhh I understand. Well I did manage to clear it somehow. The enemy levels were in the sweet spot despite the high initial requirements.

[tidal python]

What’s on 5-2?

[crisp shuttle]

Yes, also make sure you choose the right bonuses especially in later stages, I soft locked myself by choosing bad things and I spent an hour and a half thinking it was impossible when it was really my fault, lol

[crisp shuttle]

Just another grind wall as I’ll call it, have to stop the main story to get more power to progress better/easier

[tidal python]

Thanks for the advice!

[tidal python]

I hope there aren’t too many of those in the game. So far I’m really enjoying it

[crisp shuttle]

No problem

[crisp shuttle]

It’s really fun bro, if the grind feels too much then just take a break, you don’t ever really have to grind if you don’t want to

[unique void]

this game want me to play for 24/7 like wtf is this grinding man

[oblique geyser]

Better to have something to grind than.nothing tbh..

We were there on the previous season and everybody was complaining (as usual ofc)

[wanton stump]

Rather have more powerful weapons also should probably look up how weapons work cause still a bit confused on some parts you don't just level up the weapon and gear status? You can add whatever perk to it?

[golden spade]

But this is ridiculous grinding
Completely unhinged from Netease, they will kill the game. But that's my opinion.

Im thinking of not going another phase next week. I mean whats the point? Maybe if I save resources from now it won't be grindy for me

Do we keep artifacts and weapon lvls?

[wanton stump]

Also realized not every character can use the same gun and also want that tan 2

[brittle zodiac]

lol prestige raid is free

youll jsut be surprise by ads damage but aside from that its soooooo freeee

[bitter estuary]

issakis is easy atleast

i can camp high up

and not die

[brittle zodiac]

soooo ffreeeee

[bitter estuary]

tan-2 is really just a starter char if you do get him otherwise you'd immediately switch to umeko/efri/helhest once you unlock them

[wanton stump]

Wait what? Lame is that seriously true? But he's a 5 star character

[sharp talon]

my first prestige raid immediately got an adept mod wow

[wanton stump]

He looks cool and seems like he's powerful

[sharp talon]

highest roll too

seems bad tho

[oblique geyser]

100% direct hit dmg look like the adept mod lol

Its not same mechanic as raid durong speedrun event?

[spring star]

no its just like normal just 105k power. super easy

[oblique geyser]

Well good

[spring star]

no bomb timers or switching etc

[oblique geyser]

Will make farm easier

[spring star]

yep no different mechanics than normal. when it's issakis thats gonna be such free eats

[oblique geyser]

Time to use x2 and x3 then🔥

[sharp talon]

so much xp from it

[rotund flame]

Turns out i need the XP. I still somehow need to unlock 9 final nodes in the emare system. Thought i was high level but apparently not lol

[sharp talon]

same still need to unlock a few more nodes

another adept wow

[west violet]

Is it only tabernacle or other encounter too?

[sharp talon]

only issakis

[rotund flame]

Would it be possible to farm break in? Or are the rewards only for the 3rd part?

[sharp talon]

its like the adept strike, only one encounter that rotates

[west violet]

Then quick and free loot 🤤

[sharp talon]

failed one phase 2 times in a row 😵‍💫

[west violet]

Unlucky with randoms?

[rotund flame]

That's good at least,more likely to get real players since people aren't splitting up to do the other parts

[sharp talon]

yea and the boss has quite a lot of hp

[rotund flame]

Most likely. Hardly see randoms over 100k power. I can already see my whole lobby getting 1 shot lol

[west violet]

Umeko stonks rises 😆

[west violet]

Yeah always a 50:50 with blueberries 🤡

[visual rain]

is the prestige raid just slightly stronger enemies

[sharp talon]

basically

[visual rain]

thats so lame

[sharp talon]

leviathan will save us 😂

[visual rain]

at this point it'd be a miracle if leviathan is actually a raid

watch it just be a blitz

[brittle zodiac]

dam the game knows who to give it too.show them over power ikora

[sharp talon]

will test it later but i think that mod sucks

[surreal berry]

QUESTION!!!
About PHASES!...
Those WHOM ARE IN PHASE 8
Comparing to Those WHOM are in phase 7

Is the Increase in POWER CHALLENGES... Differnt?...

[bitter estuary]

no i think

[surreal berry]

Because... I can't DO Less Legendary Missons to Claim MORE materials...
I have to Do more LMissions to claim more weekly bonus

I don't have 3 100,000 power characters
only lucky enough to have 2

[surreal berry]

With 1 group of weapons.
Group= (2 chosen weapons).

[bold fog]

oh goody, i cant wait for the "must" 85k x 10 or whatever characters challenge

[dusty spire]

I believe it will be just the board that resets, they will from my understanding put most mats for the board in the season shop so you’ll have the start up every season. Equipment already upgraded won’t lose results imo

So it’s just like before with season compass just this time you using mats to upgrade every reset

[bitter estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441230422074720498/1502133013067071578/RDT_20260424_1652125439861200370024234.gif

15 characters must be above 90k+

[bold fog]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

DR "you asked to me able to grind forever no pinnacle energy "

[bitter estuary]

balls

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-this-gif-21637121

[bitter estuary]

new 4 star??? omg

[river vigil]

lowkey I want this but I wish it had +15% damage on it

[bold fog]

I didn't check
Does accept stay 2%?

Adept

[bitter estuary]

wasting 105 morbius for a 2.5 % chance of finishing off targets

🔥

[river vigil]

it would go crazy on mesicku

Mine already has a 607.5% forerate, and then I'd have a no animation finsiher

[bold fog]

You'd forfeit dps for a chance at finisher?

[river vigil]

all of the mods are divided by 10 in the preview

I won't know until I can test the mod

It's similar to how this looks interesting to me but I dont know if it actually has a use since we dont have a horde mode

[humble jacinth]

Are all these Leviathan / Gauntlet on prestige / adept / hard difficulty objectives all just poorly translated version of the same thing?

I unlocked the new prestige mode. But there's no adept or hard difficulty for gauntlets.

[empty kettle]

Seems like it

[oblique geyser]

We might get something in 2 weeks that is not documented.. quest for 3rd char and raid start to be a lot of its thats just a bad translate

[river vigil]

[humble jacinth]

People 110000 power and still don't know how to run that gauntlet

[lilac spindle]

at what point do i unlock endgame? after story is finished? also what are considered the raids in this game

[noble vine]

hello

anyone got a estella build?

[empty kettle]

Gauntlet onslaught

[placid isle]

[static quarry]

How do I unlock light linked companions?

[lilac spindle]

oke

[empty kettle]

That doesn't exist anymore

[static quarry]

Thank you

[dusty spire]

Gonna be hanging around 92 for a bit 🤏

[marsh mist]

Are we running his exotic sidearms or wolf’s?

[jagged osprey]

Okay. I tried out the gauntlet onslaught prestige and couldn’t clear it with randoms lol. It actually has a DPS check

[oblique geyser]

Sad tarik cant move the elite bandit 🫠

[oblique geyser]

Wolf exotic GL atm

We will see with last catalyst but sidearms rof isnt as good as mythic Guns

[frozen nimbus]

Went all the way with Tariq or just doin 91/92 for flex? 😄

[slow olive]

No tariq trial?

https://giphy.com/gifs/smirking-green-eyes-im-blue-JGfhtI8pq1rfmPJmhU

[dusty spire]

Kinda just stopped here because currently I’ll need more dps or maybeee I’ll hit it in time. Just kinda stopped once I felt the increase

But got rapid he’s definitely great

[frozen nimbus]

With the Mythic arc sidearm?

[dusty spire]

Yeah

Highest so far is 95 so he doing well within the current grouping

What I’ve noticed I still have a lot more to actually increase in damage just ain’t got mods ect
His damage is actually great in expanse when you understand how to consistently pull of his burst

Very tempted to do these now that I got a feel of what he can do in arc, these would run for spread with his GL similar performance to the arc myth playstyle

Very viable imo

[drowsy cypress]

Imagine if s5 game will be fully rewamped into style like HORIZON HUNTER GATHERING with Pregnant radegast and lоli Mara sow

[slow olive]

Nah but genuinely why is there no trial option for Tariq cuz I swear every character has a trial run

[drowsy cypress]

maybe trials are not popular

[dusty spire]

They done bad with execution for S4 I think all these will get corrected once they catch up on themselves

Major system change

[slow olive]

Still a necessary one tho

[dusty spire]

May have taken up valuable time else where on quality

[drowsy cypress]

nope, not needed

[dusty spire]

Especially if the team is small and leans on AI

[marsh mist]

Theres no comms so who knows whats going on

[slow olive]

How?

[dusty spire]

I just think the major system change just had them take a step back

[drowsy cypress]

as far i know netese fires all promo team coz its bad

[slow olive]

Because its a requirement to know what I'm pulling for

[dusty spire]

That is the sad part

[slow olive]

Because if I'm putting my money/pulls into a character and end up not even liking them its a waste

[dusty spire]

Because Tariq is really good

And I think a trial feel would cement it

[lean burrow]

trials are needed in every gacha game, how do i know i like the character without trying him?

[dusty spire]

I know players are on the edge of pulling because I get ingame messages all the time

[dusty spire]

Facts

So I know players want it

[slow olive]

Exactly!

[dusty spire]

I atleast got to try efri through the free story quest

That’s why I didn’t want her because I got to play with her

Had the Titan look everything and I was edged into pulling, glad I held though for Tariq. Was a big gamble without trial

[lean burrow]

i mean if i had to play through another lame quest like efrideet's i'd rather get no quest at all

[dusty spire]

I’d agree for me it was trail mode lol

[lean burrow]

no voice over, boring as f, and the second part was like talking to the sims npcs

[slow olive]

Devs got lazy

They peaked with Gwynns first two missions and from what I heard Estella overall

Then they hard crashed ever since

[sharp talon]

what is with all the quests that are added with the last phase we cant do

[slow olive]

Still angry with Jaren's quest

[sharp talon]

leviathan all these raid difficulty things

[lean burrow]

maybe they'll add it with the next update?

[sharp talon]

maybe, it doesnt make sense why we got them last week though

[dusty spire]

Most likely

[lean burrow]

well looking how things went they surely rushed quite a lot of stuff lol

[dusty spire]

I feel they are just behind on tasks qol will pull in

I expected this because of the pinnacle system change

[sharp talon]

at least they are doing events much more constantly i feel like now

[dusty spire]

That’s a core progression system changes

[lean burrow]

not a fan of these last events tbh

[dusty spire]

So now they have to replan how they feed us with the core change

[lean burrow]

closing myself into chaos and farming strikes like crazy

[dusty spire]

Which I think s5 is all about

Right now they need our data

[marsh mist]

Tbf tariq needs significant investment to have decent dmg no?

[sharp talon]

the rewards are good though for this event with the condensate selectors. the chaos thing was kinda like a bonus thing at least to me

[slow olive]

How much?\

[dusty spire]

Tbf no if you played from a while back you’d have a lot of his kit

[lean burrow]

since this is a major update i assume next season will be worse, the only hope is they give us a d1/d2 raid

[sharp talon]

they also mentioned a seasonal campaign in the roadmap, we got the season qeust for it in phase 1 'the depths' but we never got it

[slow olive]

Is it just me or does Tariq's relic look out of place?

[lean burrow]

sure but to get all daily keys you have to grind every day, past pandora's wheel event were much more casual

[dusty spire]

Actually yes if your talking dmg you have to T6

[slow olive]

Too warframe-y

[dusty spire]

Sounds like we need pinnacle back but I doubt it so only other option now is skip tickets or aka iron commander chaos

The skip to the grind in terms of service is the 3x pulls

[lean burrow]

nahh man they just need to lower the time invested/rewards ratio imo

[dusty spire]

That how they are trying to make money off the progress over time

Tbf most of us should have decked out hero pools by the end of the next season

In terms of end gamers

[lean burrow]

they kinda just killed the casual aspect imo

[bitter estuary]

max emanare power is 21900 damn

they are REALLY trying to make people get to 114k at phase 9/10 lol

[dusty spire]

The last push

[bitter estuary]

oh btw the last parts of the emanare allows you to add more power

up to node lvl 10

dmg gap is gonna be insane

[lean burrow]

new people downloading the game have to grind like crazy and if they don't have people to play with (which most don't) they just quit, look at randoms matching in elivagar, they have crap characters with crap equipment and they get blasted as soon as they do something wrong lol, nice new light experience

[bitter estuary]

blueberries are struggling hard lmao

[dusty spire]

Yeah mm is a struggle right now

With the split between existing and new

[lean burrow]

yeah but a game doesn't finance itself with elite players only, look at marathon

not casual friendly= destined to die out

[dusty spire]

I just think fomo is a dieing model

And will be done with eventually

You could easily turn gatcha into a standard monthly subscription model

And revert back into a more progression based mmos like we use to have

Subscription is acess into the full world

[lean burrow]

i'd be happy to pay for that, but i expect good content in return, not half baked crap

[dusty spire]

F2P is only accessible to the free land

[dusty spire]

Facts

[lean burrow]

same for d2, i'd also pay 100/120 a year to get something on forsaken level

[dusty spire]

Facts, we already pay subscription to monthly movie programmes ect

They could easily sell us £15-30 monthly depending on the quality of the live service

Without gatcha gambling or fomo

[lean burrow]

the main issue is always the same, if you're product is bad, you won't sell

you can charge 10 as you can charge 100

[dusty spire]

Fomo should be based on limited based dungeons drops not 30 day hero window

[dusty spire]

Lazy gaming encouraged stupid models for

As much as we complain corporate won’t do this unless players was buying it

[lean burrow]

look at genshin impact, the amount of content they pump out is insane, and you don't even need to go for c6 characters to complete the game, sure it's a more casual and solo driven game, but it sell and a lot

[dusty spire]

Once we start flexing with our wallets they will quickly change direction, that I know

[golden spade]

It's crazy. They will get destroyed in any content while they still figure it out

[dusty spire]

But to be fair they got a mad amount of global lockdown momentum

They locked in a good amount of business and I guess that allowed them to keep that quality fed

All these new gatcha are trying to generate new players and then retain ect ect