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[bitter estuary]

the skill gap is insane

[neon pebble]

Nobody even queues for raids 💀 i want solo content

[twilit thistle]

Bulwark had solo 🙁

[neon pebble]

Not a tower defense game

[twilit thistle]

🙁

[neon pebble]

Is a shooter rpg

[bitter estuary]

im also tired of morgrans because some noobs DIE

yes die due to underpowered

[elder wing]

It’s destiny bruh not subway surfers

[bitter estuary]

?

[stark forge]

idk power increase go brr playerbase is a mess rn

[neon pebble]

Subway surfers does have more players than DR for sure

[elder wing]

Multiplayer content is what makes everything more fun.. you play with ya buddies etc.

[elder wing]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-say-sherlock-no-kidding-benedict-cumberbatch-gif-5343846

[neon pebble]

The multiplayer required for grind when queues are empty is a sin

[elder wing]

Just launch the thing… solo and there you go

[neon pebble]

Solo content for grind then multiplayer for fun

[bitter estuary]

morgrans gets you a full fireteam consistently but whenever i play the rest its just no

[neon pebble]

Not multiplayer for grind and solo chaos mines/expanse for fun

[bitter estuary]

especially blitz/onslaught

no one is playing

[stark forge]

onslaught is dead but heroic strike/blitz are full of new lights

[elder wing]

Cuz we have like 50 players each server

[rotund flame]

That's what im saying lol

[neon pebble]

Then why new multiplayer content if only 50 players?

[elder wing]

The reason players don’t play much is cuz you can literally solo everything that why… people find it boring… imagine something that requires a proper team to grind for and compete

You have expanse… that solo and is quite fun

[neon pebble]

Which is it? Lack of players or lack of multiplayer content? You keep flip floppin

[bitter estuary]

morgrans take 2~3 min, and you get into a full fireteam immediately because every run is consistent, i guess people are prefering to grind that now

literally i get into a match and it's almost always different people

[neon pebble]

(Needed for Emanare grind 🤣 )

[stark forge]

i want more raids sunset morgaga and legacy

[rotund flame]

True, probably because Morgan has the materials you need for the enamare system. Been running it few times this week since i ran out of stuff this phase 😭

[stark forge]

sunset shifting gates and throw the map into iron bar

[river vigil]

I just dont understand :T

[neon pebble]

Pvp is dead

[elder wing]

Don’t understand what lmao?

[stark forge]

do they even bother to pick the right buff atp 💀

[twilit thistle]

Y shifting gates nested tho fr.

[river vigil]

I doubt it at this point

[neon pebble]

Condense all the modes, make upgrade resources on solo content and endgame rng farm items on multiplayer. Remove half of the content so people arnt spread out

[elder wing]

Don’t make any suggestions from now on 🤣

[stark forge]

game would be nice if contents only revolve around raids and activities in open world areas

[drowsy cypress]

Sh'itting gates need to be removed or completely reworked

[rotund flame]

One thing i see is people complaining about the rewards feeling the same as you climb. The quality is pretty much the same lol

[bitter estuary]

well

[drowsy cypress]

like WWM?

[sullen depot]

Scale the rewards with difficulty. Simple fix

[bitter estuary]

i knew truth would be better

[neon pebble]

When you can quit gaslighting and question dodging maybe we can talk, until you can actually contribute to the conversation ima just ignore 👍

[charred wharf]

what yall crying about fam

[rotund flame]

So true. Looking at you legendary campaign

[charred wharf]

in this maintenance mode of a game

[elder wing]

Yea lol just lets remove half of the content. Brilliant 🤣

[bitter estuary]

you get new weapons plus a more consistent experience AND get important mats for progression

no wonder people would rather grind that lmao

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[neon pebble]

The phases increasing enemy power makes zero sense tbh, the power should only go up as difficulty does not dynamically with our level

[stark forge]

yeah kinda like that expand the open world map and add activities for resources

[charred wharf]

wym? you don't think a shank in open portal face tanking 8 shots from your heavy is fun?

[twilit thistle]

🤔

[drowsy cypress]

at least add moon. And new zones

[twilit thistle]

There is one issue with these ideas. ||$||

[rotund flame]

Used to be able to clear legendary campaign at last difficulty in 3 minutes with a non t6 character. Now it takes like 8 minutes 💀

[charred wharf]

devs stopped developing for this game

[elder wing]

Long ago

[stark forge]

all the playlist in adventure right now are just strike with a different nametag

[neon pebble]

It requires us to grind Emanare and build all of our lightbearers. They want us to build 12 each season. 1 of each element and shinka type

[stark forge]

sunset them all

[neon pebble]

Get rid of The Pit, was everything in S2 and S3

[drowsy cypress]

dunno why, if game have decent DAU today

[charred wharf]

yes but there was plausible cope for people but a banner character launching without an animation/trial is clear as day

[sullen depot]

?? U do not need to build a character of each element what. U just need a matching weapon type

[charred wharf]

still much potential but they gave up for whatever regarded reason

[stark forge]

follow meta u only build like 4-5 lol

[elder wing]

That shows how much they care 🤣

[timber citrus]

You can tell exactly when they ran out of money, right before hiring voice actors for efrideet Quest

[neon pebble]

What we need and what devs want are two diff things. They wanted us to build 12. We build 2 instead

[rotund flame]

Is there a mission labeled "must do" that requires you to build 7 characters and put them in the emnare system?

[neon pebble]

Actually it was start of Jaren

[charred wharf]

still pissed efrideet's questline had no voice acting but we had to go through that regarded questline with the weird kid with jaren

[neon pebble]

Jaren shoulda been a 4star according to files. No new 4star in S2. S3 was 2 diff free mythic reworks kabr and ikora. S4 is no cosmetics for new lightbearers or anything

[drowsy cypress]

all personal quests exept estella is just meeeeh

[twilit thistle]

They want money cuz the budget keeps shrinking. I dont even think the devs know how to modify the game at this point, they couldnt even fix morgrans to work on the new system. It so sloppy, that these changes may require remaking major parts of the game.

[stark forge]

kinda wild we went from estela quest to no quest with tariq in under a year

[rotund flame]

Poor Tariq, dude is homeless. No drip and no character quest 💀

[drowsy cypress]

better no char quest than post estellas one. Waste

[neon pebble]

Its what every game does when making a massive game. They dont root files properly and break code real easy. Some get to the point where the engine straight up wont let them add a new feature without rewriting base files which messes up rest of game

[sullen depot]

We hitting that 200k revenue or even less this month at this point lol

[timber citrus]

Do you guys read his lore pages? Absolute garbage chatGPT nonsense

[charred wharf]

lol

[drowsy cypress]

Whole Tariq is gpt

[neon pebble]

Netease doesnt own the IP for forever. Bungie traded hands into Sony this year. Sony prob wont renew the contract and netease is using up its 1 year before EoS

[timber citrus]

Lolllllllll

[sullen depot]

“New loot”

[elder wing]

It’s all about the loot

[charred wharf]

u mean bungie bamboozled sony into buying from for billions

[sullen depot]

Just gotta call it wraps on destiny as a whole IP at this point

[bold fog]

omg post it

[charred wharf]

cayde 6 probably will be the herald of eos, as that'll be their cash grab banner before shutting down

[twilit thistle]

I think alot of it was made by a single person, or maybe a small team. That team is now gone, is how it feels. Idk if they even know what they are doing now.

[elder wing]

We will never see that legend…

[drowsy cypress]

Maybe gtp generate him

[tropic swift]

I've bought every patron bundle, every season since launch. I didn't buy it this time. Hate the changes after pinnacle was removed. Efrideet no voice acting, no skins, Tariq hasn't even got story missions. I'm officially done with supporting this game.

[charred wharf]

that's funny you saying you're done supporting this game cause you got that in common with netease!

[elder wing]

They don’t deserve any of the support lmao

At this point is just laugh in the face

[drowsy cypress]

How about so brilliant gtp story of tariq? Dud u enjoy it?

[tropic swift]

I haven't played since i pulled him but i hear his lore pages are so bad.

[timber citrus]

still cant get over this lol
"Wolves do not beg for scraps, and they certainly do not "pull" for what should be theirs by right of wish. Every Lightbearer who enters the game in Season 4 shall receive the new Character at no cost of silver nor charms. A wish freely asked is a wish freely given."

[charred wharf]

someone just posted screenshots of 2 pages just a few messages up

[elder wing]

I just hope they don’t drag it as D2 and end it in time

[drowsy cypress]

thay are random text from gtp

[charred wharf]

it's absolute slop

[timber citrus]

somebody had to work late to write his lore and decided to just copypaste an allrecipes page instead

[bold fog]

it's all filler

[drowsy cypress]

other one is AI SLOP chat bubbles in lire pages🤣

[stark forge]

ppl actually go here to read lore ?

[tropic swift]

What is this 💩?! 😂

[timber citrus]

He's a treasure hunter? What reason do we have to believe this

[charred wharf]

gwynn's is top tier

[drowsy cypress]

tariq lore

tArIq

[twilit thistle]

I almost want to unlock more on the fabry, cuz i dont think those are the symptoms of fabry.

[tropic swift]

Outdoing Bungie i see.. 🤣

[elder wing]

They following their footsteps

[sullen depot]

Wait no shot that’s his actual lore 💀💀💀💀

[elder wing]

He didn’t even get animation lmao what you expect 🤣

[tropic swift]

Quite alot of decent lore pages. Can't believe Tariqs... 💀

[elder wing]

Im surprised he has animated T6 I mean it doesn’t move but yh

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar how we gonna get all those lore pages for the wiki 👀 i did not realize that was locked behind proficiency.

[sullen depot]

Yall still working on the wiki 💀💀😭😭. Not even sure there a point to that anymore

[drowsy cypress]

ye... lets see more

[bitter estuary]

i guess im done

[elder wing]

Imagine 🤣

[drowsy cypress]

wanna see TO RE TO RE TO RE lore. Maybe its EOS date hidden here?🧐

[charred wharf]

i dont see 3 adept mods, get to grinding

[bitter estuary]

tore tore tore -> netease will tore the game into shambles

[tropic swift]

Sad as i was enjoying the hell out of the game. EoS is definitely coming sooner rather than later. We haven't even fought Risings Crota yet 🥲
This area will likely go unused at this point.

[bitter estuary]

you can only equip one adept mod at a time no?

also you need 105 mobius to max one out

[elder wing]

They probably have a contract some sort of for at least 1 year… but August is just around the corner

[charred wharf]

oh i dont know because adept mod farm is atrocious with a 2% drop out of 20 chances. I saw a guy had one on reddit and he linked a screenshot to upgrade it, wasnt it 200 mobius?

[twilit thistle]

I had one of those that naturally had 2 rounds loaded.

[bitter estuary]

?

[sullen depot]

That’s the “dodge this” adept. But u need allies with u for it to work

[charred wharf]

sad this game barely suriving a year

[elder wing]

Well. Thanks to the amazing netease 🤣

[drowsy cypress]

hmmm looks like its ready to release for s5

[bitter estuary]

its 105

still attrocious though

[twilit thistle]

Data preservation. Mostly just me these days :/

[bitter estuary]

grandmaster im crine

[twilit thistle]

Thats alot of glimmer

[tropic swift]

What about this? 😆

[bitter estuary]

mf deals less than wolf unless t6'ed

🥀

[drowsy cypress]

D2 can go EOS in late 2026 lol. RIP franchise

[elder wing]

That after eos

[bitter estuary]

this will release around ananta being released (both tba)

[drowsy cypress]

nice oryx raid, feels like ready

[elder wing]

Such an amazing franchise… but then the luck of it getting in hands of like 2 amazing companies

[sullen depot]

I been telling ppple that. If u don’t t6 Tariq u do like no damage lol

[tropic swift]

I'm ready to let Destiny go.. It had a good run.

[timber citrus]

tariq is designed to drain leafs before they bring estella and helhest back imho

[bitter estuary]

i've only been outdps'ed by a t6a5 tariq when i play wolf

[elder wing]

Pain to watch him deal with impact

[bitter estuary]

its crazy

[charred wharf]

is he? he is major poop tho?

[timber citrus]

yeah the only reason they threw a mythic together for act 2. Get people to buy him, maybe have some sunk cost fallacy and get his talents so he isnt impotent

Then real characters return and people gotta throw some $$$ down

[charred wharf]

wouldn't the better strategy be drop waifus that are overpowered

[elder wing]

Not even going to T0 that lost cause

[bitter estuary]

notice how s5 has helhest rerun

[charred wharf]

efrideet was a pretty good banner

[drowsy cypress]

next one rerun seens like hh, than eos

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/wandavisionstan-tiahra-nelson-gif-laughing-gif-5381475891204551396

[bitter estuary]

no estela then hh

[marsh mist]

5* wolf then eos

[drowsy cypress]

estella need tune. But no more devs in dev team, only GPT Kun

[elder wing]

Gonna drop 100$ to HH then they can eos and Im happy

[stark forge]

tariq is the 5* wolf

[charred wharf]

damn 5* wolf with ghallahorn would be so peak too

[elder wing]

More like xuanaa wunnana

[elder wing]

They they eos

[stark forge]

bro feels more like finnala 5* sometimes

[elder wing]

He feels like that sauce that has everything in it

[drowsy cypress]

only after pregnant radegast 6* release

[timber citrus]

mayo

[charred wharf]

is saladin the father?

[elder wing]

Definitely

[charred wharf]

nice

[stark forge]

maybe they will drop mara sov with helhest rerun

[elder wing]

Imagine cayde 👀

[charred wharf]

cayde is what they drop for their cash grab before eos

[elder wing]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[timber citrus]

Cayde with a tiktok genAI voice and no story quests

[drowsy cypress]

mara sov but with no nextures at all, just T POSE model

[bitter estuary]

5* finnala

[elder wing]

Still selling my house

[bitter estuary]

his entire niche is barrier surrounding him and dot damage

[stark forge]

t pose cayde no skill animation

[timber citrus]

Cayde only has one voice line
"Hey you've reached Nathan. I can't come to the phone right now, leave your message after the beep"

[charred wharf]

looool

[elder wing]

That 🔥

[sullen depot]

Don’t forget Tariq still has no melee animation if ur in first person

💀💀

[stark forge]

they prob gonna sunset dynamic avatar for next char too

[elder wing]

There’s no next char but eos 🤣

[drowsy cypress]

Cayde story include rectal disease therapy, cooking tiramisu and mystery story if TO RE TO RE PART 2

[marsh mist]

Honestly they just suck at sucking the money out of us

[charred wharf]

man they probably will just sunset lore cards

[marsh mist]

Not enough fomo

[elder wing]

Even if you didn’t care couldn’t do worst lmao netease tryna surpass bungie

[stark forge]

imagine they drop the void beekeeper and name him eos

[marsh mist]

Bikini efrideet is true eos

[bitter estuary]

cayde no jump animation so it just floats

[elder wing]

Void keeper is tariq undercover

[stark forge]

best u will get is bikini morgran

[drowsy cypress]

but with char dis of fatso from horizon hunter gathering😏

[bitter estuary]

i remember rememento white shadow (another gacha game) put every female cast in a bikini before it got eos'ed

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[drowsy cypress]

Guys who solve mystery of this story???? I wanna know it!

[bitter estuary]

how long are you gonna be in the mines to unlock this

[stark forge]

not gonna play thousand of chaos to read some AI gibberish

[elder wing]

This translates to: DIE D RISING

[twilit thistle]

.

[stark forge]

remove pinnacle killed this game i want it back

[bitter estuary]

they're spoiling the next character alr im crine

[drowsy cypress]

yes, its true.

[twilit thistle]

..

[drowsy cypress]

DIED RISING

[bitter estuary]

netease will prolly release marathon: blitz

[twilit thistle]

I still enjoy the game, despite what everyone says, it’s still fun.

[drowsy cypress]

marathon: rerising

[twilit thistle]

Balls. One of these days

[bitter estuary]

balls

[storm mural]

lucy ate my ice cream

[bitter estuary]

but balls

[storm mural]

ate my cheese balls too

i wanted those. I was gonna watch a movie

[twilit thistle]

🤷🏼‍♀️ I wanted to watch it with you

[neon pebble]

Fr it made people burn out now no pinnacle

[visual rain]

nah

removing pinnacle was good but emanare takes too many mats

[twilit thistle]

Please remember that I do not want to have anything to do with you, and stalking me on other platforms isn’t going to change that.

[neon pebble]

What do we even do once maxed emanare?

[visual rain]

idk, take a break?

I haven't played in a week

[neon pebble]

Thats wild

Get off the discord then 🤣

[visual rain]

wait for the new stuff like prestige raid

[visual rain]

I'm bored

[stark forge]

idk if i wanna wait for elivagar again

[storm mural]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-bored-wait-gif-27109924

[bitter estuary]

uninstall balls

[neon pebble]

Felt. I tries division resurgence but controls are so clunky cover is a dumb system

[carmine swallow]

what is the fastest way to max out season rank? I just downloaded the game 5 days ago, my light level for 3 people are 65k

[neon pebble]

No vasectome bro, kills testosterone

[neon pebble]

Uhhh you clearly dont know how Stockholm syndrom works

[bitter estuary]

whar

[neon pebble]

Yeah, yep

[fresh moat]

https://tenor.com/view/play-the-game-trace-adkins-ultimate-cowboy-showdown-join-the-competition-into-the-game-gif-21363400

[twilit thistle]

You tell em, likely

[bitter estuary]

afk sparrow racing

[crimson crown]

so they fixed this at some point in the last couple weeks. it now tracks accurately. i did offense character weeks ago (it checked off defense), and i didn't do defense till just today, and it didn't check off offense.
I recleared offense and now it properly checked off offense, so that bug was fixed at some point 👍

[twilit thistle]

🤷🏼‍♀️ I know u. And YouTube, and bepisman. No idea who that was.

[fresh moat]

[neon pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/dale-gribble-you-don't-know-me-i-am-unknowable-king-of-the-hill-gif-7423132266378128799

Nobody even knows my real voice, I try to use a diff accent every time

[twilit thistle]

You can actually speak? 😔

[neon pebble]

No im not a real 🐕 I dont do tricks

[storm mural]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-attack-otter-bite-otter-angry-angry-bite-gif-26487694

[obtuse chasm]

Same

[bitter estuary]

the "unkillable but literally don't do dmg" squad

[fresh moat]

Why’d you leave out how long it took

[storm mural]

why you care?

the straight of hormuz is closed

and thats what you care about

[stark forge]

who is hormuz

[storm mural]

my gas cost $5

[fresh moat]

You’ll be aight

[storm mural]

i weight 300 lbs

[neon pebble]

Yeah gotta have a car to worry about gas

[storm mural]

and you care about a completion times

[neon pebble]

Some bros dont care about $5 a gallon because they moochin rides

[fresh moat]

Stop buying gas. Weight goes down

[storm mural]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-mighty-omega-gif-22253898

[regal gulch]

Wait for rust mobile

[storm mural]

imma wait for my dad to come back

[regal gulch]

Lol what

[storm mural]

then we can finally play catch

and i wont be bored anymore

[bold fog]

eeyymm iiinvincibll

[neon pebble]

This game?

[regal gulch]

Lol no

[bitter estuary]

rust will come officially on mobile lol

[neon pebble]

I will have a PC by then probably lol

[twilit thistle]

I can’t tho 😔 I’m defective

[neon pebble]

Huh?

[mint mulch]

hey guys i have the emanare abilitys unlocked but when i go to equip them it says i need to unlock them. anyone know how to fix this?

[signal spade]

did you unlock the node under it

[mint mulch]

yes

[mint mulch]

yes

[signal spade]

weird

[mint mulch]

i cant send a pic for some reason

[bitter estuary]

upgrade the middle node

then you can unlock it

[mint mulch]

i have

[bitter estuary]

hmm

[mint mulch]

its level 7

[signal spade]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twilit thistle]

@storm mural still waiting.

[potent inlet]

Is 90k the hard cap or is it 100k? Cuz damn its steep for the first chara

[obtuse chasm]

Has anyone actually played division resurgence? I know the graphics are buns but is the gameplay alright?

[obtuse chasm]

112k rn I’m pretty sure

[candid phoenix]

about ~92-3k is the hard cap without emanare

[potent inlet]

Cordon is such a drag solo tho

Those damn shards are a nuisance

[candid phoenix]

you can get them in public events...

[potent inlet]

Ya, never had them drop so far over 50 events

[candid phoenix]

are you talking about the gems?

[potent inlet]

No, the surge dust, purple shards

Maybe im doing something wrong i feel like

[candid phoenix]

maybe it needs to be heroic? i've definitely gotten them

[potent inlet]

Dunno but they're a myth to me outside of cordon

[signal spade]

[stark forge]

do u like shooting sponge for fun

[twilit thistle]

Show ur highest cordon stage.

@indigo solar carried ngl

[obtuse chasm]

Depends but sometimes yeah, as long as it’s not timed

[thorny frost]

They are guanrateed in public events, note that this is different then front line boss events

[visual rain]

What

why are we lying

or did cordon just get easy

[stark forge]

yeah nothing is timed game is alright for me

[bitter estuary]

balls

[twilit thistle]

🤔 balls

[bitter estuary]

joined when they did boss, lmao why is the newlight gwynn doing more than tariq

[summer ledge]

Maybe also a join in progress. I usually do entire runs by myself and have the remaining players join in the last minute or two.

The population is low for the times I get on, though. Not many people are on between midnight and five in the morning.

[storm mural]

for what

im sicky so i forgo 💀

[bitter estuary]

well i mean im getting matches frequently because its like around midday in apac

emea/apac isn’t as dead as people think, it’s just that the timezones can spread out so far that it does feel dead

[rotund flame]

@twilit thistle guess who i saw in chaos 👀

[bitter estuary]

its the one and only LUCYballs 💜

[fossil lark]

Kb31HhFq

[bitter estuary]

#🎁│in-game-binding

[undone flicker]

Hy im sercing for an active pack

[shy wind]

i left over a month ago. and im just trying to check if it got any better.. WHAT THE F HAPPENED TO THIS GAME?!! WE GOT 100K POWER LEVELS NOW? the hell!?

[oblique geyser]

Mostly from new seasonal artefact (emanare)

[drowsy cypress]

this is better

Ora ora ora but DR

[bitter estuary]

Ballsballsballsballsballsballs deidris

[past hamlet]

Best artifact build for Tariq?

[brittle zodiac]

theyll be fixing power on thursday

[oblique geyser]

Different build but you can try this

For t6

[brittle zodiac]

the 3rd has so many options

for t6 valiant is also an option

2nd there are other artifacts

[drowsy cypress]

better thay fix Tariq cringe lore.

at least u know whats fabri disease

[brittle zodiac]

lol that is funny

someone be slacking at work copy paste

[marsh mist]

Wtf is going with tariqs lore

[drowsy cypress]

Chat GPT lore, coz devs dont care

and DIE DRISING spoiler

maybe in this lore page we get smthing like E: OS E:OS or shutdown date🤣

[bitter estuary]

aint nobody gonna get 15k points to get his last lore tab

[drowsy cypress]

seens like no1

If fabry disease already epic, we can see more in other 3 lore section

[dusty spire]

Yes! Mines gonna get rinsed today

Spike sheellll

[oblique geyser]

This guy shred through 90 in less than 15 minutes
Big brain on pulls, feel good to watch

[river vigil]

mesicku my beloved

[bitter estuary]

whats the build

i might use him at t0 idk

[river vigil]

yester's is T6 so his damage output will be higher

[oblique geyser]

He still might be using this

[bitter estuary]

i would wanna pull him but i fear i dont have enough leaves for t6

i only have enough pulls to guarantee a t3/t4

[lavish carbon]

how many do you have?

[bitter estuary]

like 160 ish

not a lot 🥀

[lavish carbon]

ya that won't be enough

might get re-run as well just save buddy

[bitter estuary]

true

[lean burrow]

nahh man i wouldn't risk it

i also like the character but i won't t6 him cause his weapons are bad, also no other exotic options for gls

[bitter estuary]

my issue with the ssb is that it's tuned WAY too much towards wolf

you cannot tell me wolf's super cd being 55s and ssb taking 50% super energy as super grenades isn't something they blatantly tied the weapon to

[golden spade]

Also is Tariq either T0 or T6? What's the community's take on his other talents?

Or god forbid assension?

If the game drops another exotic gl he might be something else? Also side arms tickle enemies

[bitter estuary]

its kinda like gwynn, t6a5 or dont even bother

[oblique geyser]

Exotic GL is solid

And sidearm work well on rapid fire and impact so for expanse he looks pretty good

[bitter estuary]

the more i look at it

it lowk looks like an xm8

[honest sun]

Häkke guns in D2 pretty much SCAR-H/SMAW like

[keen relic]

Is the new character good? Im 14 pity away from guarentee or should i go for gwynn since i missed her for estela during launch

[honest sun]

Gwynn is shotgun goth mommy

[keen relic]

I already got a goth mommy irl 😭 i just need to know if shes definitely still needed

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-gif-8293915206003753096

[keen relic]

Goth mommy here -mika

[honest sun]

Do you have a Guardian capable of using shotguns?

[keen relic]

Yeah everyone besides gwynn up to jaren

Skipped kabr, missed out on efrideet

[daring dome]

I joined

[honest sun]

I don't have Kabr/Efrideet either lol

But I got Ikora at least :S

[keen relic]

Someone told me efrideet was lowkey needed

Thats why i feel i took a hit

[honest sun]

Depends

[keen relic]

Still got helhest though

[honest sun]

I can do with my current chars

But, still in 60-63K power hell

[keen relic]

Im tryna touch the 120k+ people have been making it too 😭 ima have to farm tf outta chaos

Im in 77k+ range with almost all of my gold characters

[honest sun]

Not bad

I cannot do expanse 10-20 lol

[keen relic]

😭 yeah i was a try hard when the game first dropped but that was during pinnacle system 🥲 so 500+ runs of chaos to get 1 exotic build

If ur lucky

[keen relic]

Lol im at 15 🤣 i was at 75k power on my chars before the big update so the 2k boost feels insulting

[honest sun]

🤣

[keen relic]

I was trying not to take a break cause i knew they were gonna fix the limited energy to play and create a more console version of destiny to mobile, but they took awhile

Use to be uo at 4am like a junky waiting for 120 pinnacle

40+40+40

[bitter estuary]

ah ic ic

[keen relic]

Only 3 runs of double rewards

[honest sun]

Some of Häkke's D2 stuff

[keen relic]

Now everyones telling me to grind grind grind 😭 chaos burnt me out i need a adderall atp

[keen relic]

Potato settings on a 3080 is wild 😭

But i feel u

I run medium on my 2080

[honest sun]

I just need season rank 66 to get 5 star drops lmao

[keen relic]

Youll be golden

[honest sun]

My Gwynn :S

[wide dagger]

Ur Gwynn

[honest sun]

Helps for visibility haha

[keen relic]

Dang what thats actually sweaty

[honest sun]

The Division 2

Anyway, just a showcase of potato quality on a 3080 lmao

But back to topic, lvl 90 exotics only drop 1-star or?

[dawn pagoda]

Did anyone here already complete season quest called "complete 7 character with minimum power 84k in emanare?mines already 84k with 7 character,but the progres still 6/7,am i wrong?

[stark forge]

only 1

mine auto complete since im done building char before phase reset

[keen relic]

Un equip and re equip all characters

[dawn pagoda]

Okay il try

[keen relic]

Artifacts and such

[dawn pagoda]

All artifact?lol,i thought unequip in emanare characters

[keen relic]

Try to switch in n out of ur artifacts and get ur power back to what it was n see if anything changes

[river vigil]

its time

[honest sun]

noice

[keen relic]

Goot luke

[dawn pagoda]

Its done,i just swap with Legendary character and swap it back mythic character in emanare

[cosmic trellis]

Third adept unlocked in two days, this feels like it must be a monkeys paw situation I just know it

[lean burrow]

his t4 and t6 are good, efrideet for example is so much better at t1

the real issues is sidearms needing a buff and gls being crap

[neon pebble]

You can put crap on crap then you get a crap sandwich

He will be easy creeped, most of his dmg is flat. Efri same way. They are moving into forcing seasonal meta with hp inflation and flat dmg stats on kits for no dmg scaling into the hp inflate.

Tldr: can only make characters good for a season

[dusty spire]

I’ve been using the arc set up and it’s a much faster proc into his clean up mode which I’m not sure but feel more consistent than the bp

[golden spade]

Thanks for the reply bro

[robust sequoia]

Wish I knew that before her banner left… 😭

[stark forge]

efri t0 is ok t1 is just a little healing

[lean burrow]

healing + extra javelin energy

[pine verge]

I am pretty impressed with Tariq so far. I was expecting him to be pretty bad lol

[pine verge]

Flat/ability damage is good in this game though. Both efri and tariq also have weapon damage in their kit lol

[lean burrow]

yeah now he only needs good weapons

at least efrideet can choose between 5 exotic hand cannons and 3 exotic snipers lol

[bitter estuary]

no because why does efri have access to 8 different HC's and 7 different snipers

we do need a new arc/void sniper though idk

[dusty spire]

All he needs is a few more weapons which will come over time

I think that can be said for a lot of heroes outside of pierce tbf

[stark forge]

someone at netease love piercing too much

[cyan tide]

And they hate rapid fire

[stark forge]

efrideet is the rapid fire unit they give us

[lean burrow]

for real lol

she's probably the best unit since helhest

[lilac spindle]

As new player who should I pull for on the limited banners?

I really like Gwynn but Im guessing she's been powercrept af

[bold fog]

I'm waiting estella

I like gwynn movement feel but her dps bad

[lean burrow]

you're guessing right

[lilac spindle]

Do we know who are the characters on upcoming banners

The guy on current banner looks boring afff

[lean burrow]

maybe an estela rerun coming soon but nothing confirmed

[lilac spindle]

She's the summon girly?

[lean burrow]

yes

[lilac spindle]

I saw someone playing her , is she fun?/good?

[lean burrow]

yeah she's decent, she shines in contest raid scenarios

[thorny frost]

Not sure why you are so against flat damage XD some of the best units currently utilize flat damage and their flat base numbers aren’t insane. Efrideet/Ikora-H /Estela (she still has good damage, just has other issues) all are flat damage weapon mastery.

They would need to power creep weapons stupidly high before you see anything happen due to flat, and it allows for more niche weapons to also be viable (crimson on Efri, if it was % base it would probably deal less damage).

[willow siren]

yes best dps for boss encounters

[bold fog]

Yeah not locking weapons is nice

But estella just looks high utility as both weapons and abilities help each other dps

[lilac spindle]

Oh that's awesome , I do like a boss focused character.

Do we know when it's confirmed?

[bold fog]

No confirm

But she's on amanre and gwynn ends in like 18 days

[lilac spindle]

Sorry , I meant when do we know next character banners

[misty fiber]

Is there ANY anti-cheat in this game? After months I was playing right now 2 matches of Iron Bar and we got both melted with <10 to 70 in about 60 seconds..wtf?

[lean burrow]

maybe when gwynn banners ends

[thorny frost]

Yea her weapons in the end become fuel for her abilities. If she utilized % base weapon mastery you would be looking more for highest dps (or highest hit damage based on how it would be done), where now we mainly look for highest RPM, weapon damage only accounts for like 25% of her over all damage (give or take due to build).

[lilac spindle]

Ok cool

[misty fiber]

no wonder nobody is playing this mode

[lilac spindle]

So I shouldn't pull for anyone at the moment?

[bold fog]

They have given up announcements
Tariq was just like 4 days before, and we only saw his build in patch notes

[lean burrow]

ahahahahahahah anticheat? the new character is missing his trial

i think anticheat is their last problem

[misty fiber]

true^^

[lilac spindle]

Wtf really hahaha

[bold fog]

No trailer
No trial
No quest
Ai lore

[lilac spindle]

Wtfff what are they doing

[lean burrow]

i love this game, but tbh i think it's cooked and done

[lilac spindle]

Mann just when I started playing

🫩💔

[stark forge]

finish up on their contract

[lilac spindle]

Damn that really sucks , I really was enjoying it so far

[neon pebble]

They set it up to creep each season 👀 im against flat because characters dont grow with the game, they get left behind. When enemy HP inflates and we get new weapons they dont magically get better. The "meta" characters that held on for so long were all % based wpn mastery not flat(Ning, HH). They didnt see creep until a new Flat (Efri) was added above the current % threshold...
Tldr: They over inflated HP on enemies so % mastery fell behind this season with our current weapons, then they buffed Flat on new lightbearers to give them the illusion of being good but they actually just plateau for the season and are easy replaced next. I.e. it makes game balancing easier going forward but also makes character building linear and creeped

[thorny frost]

Keep on enjoying it, the honest truth is all live service games have the risk of EOSing at almost anytime. Just don’t spend more than you would on fleeting entertainment. I view it like going to movies/coffee.

[neon pebble]

It historically has not been until this S4 starting with Efri 👀

[stark forge]

still kinda effective to keep us pulling for new char

[neon pebble]

Nobody cheats, worse we get is lag spikers but even then it could just be bad server optimization

[bold fog]

What do you mean flat

[neon pebble]

It does a set amount of damage not based on a % of dmg you deal

You cant manipulate it or work it with diff perks like Syncopation and stuff to boost its dmg

[bold fog]

Don't those scale with new higher star artifacts

[neon pebble]

Soon as stats inflate then Flat is usually dusted and % maintains

[neon pebble]

Not really, you still maxed at substat10 and max sig abilities so the dmg has nowhere to grow

[thorny frost]

Ning never was meta due to his damage, actually inflate in HP has made him weaker. Unless weapons see stupidly high increases the % damage is also flat depending on the weapons. EOTL has the same damage it will till the end of time, new weapons could end up enhancing skill damage also with the sacrifice to their own damage. Or can sacrifice damage for other utilities (RoF/super generation) which will lower the use of weapon mastery with % and amount of uses/cool downs anyways. I don’t thin any weapon mastery has no cool down/unlimited activations, this makes RoF weapons a vulnerability in % based masteries.

Looking at Jolder I think she would be stronger with flat damage right now XD Night after Night being so much better then her other options does not synergize well with her mastery.

[polar summit]

Since her banner she has only been useful on day 1 contest raids which you only need her at T0. She is a waste of resources knowing that probably the next rerun after her is helhest.

[storm mural]

Krusty krab is unfair

Mr krabs is in there

[oblique geyser]

The next banner (outside of rerun) will most likely be a char that use same weapon as estella (burst weapon or LMG) so she could benefit from it 👍

[polar summit]

Did Gwyn benefit from Tariq’s BP?

[thorny frost]

Give our summons damage reduction XD them dieing on higher end content seems to be my biggest frustration atm. An ogre sneezing on them and them dieing is silly, and that is with almost 100% summon health from Emanare. Or they need an hp increase.

[oblique geyser]

Nope but she can use it at least 👍
We might get a bad juju or something like that in next BP

[thorny frost]

Waiting for bad juju since the beginning lol.

[polar summit]

So she same will prob apply to Estela lol

[thorny frost]

HH got a buff with Arablast, Jaren got a buff it seems from TED….

[oblique geyser]

Maybe or maybe not 👍
The Smartest thing to do would be to implement a weapon useful on both char (rerrun and new)

[jolly grove]

The new sidearm definitely is worth it for gwynn it does more damage then concerno and it feels like it has more range too

[dusty spire]

So I just become aware YouTube’s pip is now free!?

Making mines much more easier on the phone now

[dusty spire]

Yeah I’d agree to the extent that most heroes outside of piercing who have leaned on the original stock of s0-s2 is out of data numerically

[neon pebble]

Mahama nerfs hit hard. Now you are talking money though, they will sell us weapons to boost kits forcing us to buy BP. New exo xbow lands and Ning could come back, flat dmg cant say that they will return

[dusty spire]

Feel like the increase in primary weapon damage was part of them trying to resolve

Now they have this seasons data maybe they will start working into balances

I think they want the data to see to the extent we can pull numbers and then start working into that

[neon pebble]

Hh needed gone, push on primary helps balance her

[dusty spire]

Clearly they aren’t good as testing like we are

[neon pebble]

They don't test

[dusty spire]

I mean you can tell this by simply brining any current release into rapid lol

And then bring a old release

[dusty spire]

Clearly lol

I was quite surprised how much actually slides pass

[neon pebble]

Did you see Manifestos base dmg creep on every other Sidearm including concerto?

[dusty spire]

Still think the game got lots of potential

It works for Tariqs set up

[neon pebble]

Imagine Ning/Jolder get a new exo smg that is double dmg of Kulfi

[dusty spire]

It’s his signature

If someone else can utilise it that’s a bonus

[sharp talon]

jaren needs a buff

[thorny frost]

The next cross bow that comes out might make him better or if it is faster might be dog water as he has limited uses of his weapon mastery per cast of skill. I am going to point out that most % skills have hard cool downs again, or limited activation this makes new RoF weapons a risk. While skill based ones don’t seem to have this limitation as much, and tend to favor RoF (exception being Efrideet but she isn’t punished for using RoF weapons).

[dusty spire]

But I don’t think they make weapons with the intention of them being universal

[neon pebble]

Gwynns wpn mastery is based on wpn base dmg. She lovin manifesto 👀

[dusty spire]

Just open for use

[dusty spire]

So she became a beneficiary

[brittle zodiac]

you are the buff

[dusty spire]

Which I think is cool

Tariq benifits of using concerto

For the ability build like Gwynn

Since higher rpm procs him better

So for many void he can use it imo

[thorny frost]

Yea due to his innate passive ability I don’t think % would have worked on him as well. He wants to hit more enemies fast, similar to Ikora-H and Estela.

[dusty spire]

And I like that he has a slightly different feel between the weapon choices

Also I think if rapid is not carefully controlled it could be stupid to re aline

[neon pebble]

With T2 it woulda worked. Let him have the +200% boost on there it woulda done wonders

[dusty spire]

Still mining for his ability build

[neon pebble]

They did damage bonus substat this season and toned down all the ability users some

[dusty spire]

I’m going for

Damage boost sig super solar boost

Store the burst then when it’s needed unleash?

[sharp talon]

they reduced sig boost from 77% to 38% or smthing

imagine ikora with 77% sig boost this szn 🔥

[dusty spire]

This does 77% and 50 something

[neon pebble]

Ability Dmg was peak because it was taken into account for Flat dmg increases

[thorny frost]

What I was saying is that his first passive requires him to get 300 hits in to refresh his skills/enhance them. Say we get a “crimson” type side arm, it would really enhance his first ability, if he had a % damage ability based on Manifesto, then this new “crimson” would lower his weapon mastery.

[neon pebble]

Now we lost a flat booster

[dusty spire]

Yup

It would be bursty in super

[neon pebble]

Rossi felt this nerf hard, no ability dmg substat to boost his Flat wpn mastery

[dusty spire]

To think of it I think Rossi is a same style defender

Be an attack defence

[thorny frost]

O they put it on some where else, it is put on the other aspect of artifacts.

The part I can’t figure out tho is how much “skill strength” in Emanare enhances things as it is a flat number and not a % either XD.

[thorny frost]

O fyi, his mastery was hit by the “being enhanced by weapon damage when it shouldn’t” thing

[neon pebble]

It just needs to have high rate of fire. He has 2 round burst mythic sidearm available now and they suck. If his weapon dmg is weak then yes his % mastery would fail for the time being. Soon as he got a good dmg weapon he could resurface 1 year later as meta. When working with Flats it is too easy for numbers to creep beyond them.

[pine verge]

Nah I think your experience in other games is talking

[neon pebble]

He's a 4star, S4 finished killing em for the most part. That is good to know though. Did they fix his Super then?

[pine verge]

I doubt they will hard powercreep raw ability damage to such an extent

[neon pebble]

Gwynn?

Maru?

[pine verge]

Gwynn's weapon mastery is weapon based, and thats why its bad

Maru does good damage, but half of it misses

[neon pebble]

Ability dmg does get hard creeped, why wouldnt a flat mastery?

Hairkora ability dmg is insane

[sage nymph]

super boost or void boost on gwynn ?

[pine verge]

Ikora's ability damage is not that great without the t6 bug

[stark forge]

super boost

[neon pebble]

Depends on content, super is niche

[thorny frost]

His % damage would have been made for the weapons that are currently out, if the current weapons are more focused on damage instead of RoF then I could see RoF options coming in the future which buffs his weapon mastery as it is flat. Flat damage can be enhanced (as long as the weapon mastery allows it) just as easily as damage by focusing on RoF. Imagine a gun shooting 2k rpms for Estela XD

[neon pebble]

Bugs that last a whole season are considered seasonal buffs

It helps sales

[pine verge]

It's still a bug and clearly not intended, so I dont consider that

[sage nymph]

she seems to get it pretty often tho, 70s is not that long... but I can’t decide....

[pine verge]

Nothing comes close to the damage of her t6 bug lol

[neon pebble]

The thing that always sucks is when the masteries have cooldowns. Rossi also suffers from this. Wind howl is once every 1 second

[sharp talon]

yea she is broken

[oblique geyser]

Just need to check expanse LB to see that🤣

[pine verge]

Wind's howl being 1 second is fine, it means firerate isnt all that matters

[neon pebble]

When its the forefront of meta and everyone doin it, it is relevant 😭

He just alluded to RoF though

[pine verge]

Not relevant to a powercreep discussion when it's damage is clearly unintended

The t6 tooltip even says it hits twice

Not a bajillion times lol

[neon pebble]

So you agree her T6 being bugged means ability dmg gets hard creeped? @pine verge

She was a benefit to your side, i dont pick sides in a discussion. I try to see from all angles

[oblique geyser]

I really wish we will have a balance patch note soon.. its crazy we dont get weapon or char balance every month at least.😭

[pine verge]

no not at all lol

What im getting at is I dont think having a kit focused around weapons makes a character less susceptible to being replaced

[thorny frost]

So this allows me to rephrase how I have been trying to say. It is less about % damage and flat but how their weapon masteries are designed. His was given like the worst of both worlds limitations. While a unit like Estela benefits from flat due to how hers is designed and her other abilities. And HH does well with % due to how she is designed. Jaren does well with % but a small change could have made flat be good on him too (removal of the cool down for building stag stacks).

[sharp talon]

a1 ikora is soo good tf

i just did 96 impact pretty easily

time to do 93 rapid fire 💀

[elder wing]

Yeah lol she does better impact then jaren in some stages 🤣

[sharp talon]

jjaren doesnt have enough dmg unfortunately 🙁

its solar and im using her instead

[elder wing]

Her A1 is literally made for her

[elder wing]

Well tbh ikoraaa is such fun char and she does the job well too… so win win

[neon pebble]

Modifiers are prob my best example. Chaos mines for instance. You can get a buff that boost wpn dmg +200%, does the Flat mastery fall off compared to the % mastery?

[elder wing]

So if you have efri and ikora you can pretty much go high lvls of expanse in each shinka type

[pine verge]

What buff are you talking about?

[neon pebble]

Now flip it to +200% ability dmg, the % mastery still benefits because its an ability

[ashen swift]

Insane diff tbh.

[celest violet]

New Game:
What's your ratio?

[elder wing]

I should’ve A1 ikora instead of jaren 😭

[neon pebble]

Whatever one of the daily ones are. But even Cordon and stuff has Wpn Dmg modifiers just not as steep. Future content can have wpn dmg modifiers also 👀

[ashen swift]

At least he’s good for this cordon.

[neon pebble]

Content also drives creep, content specific buffs/debuffs choose meta

[elder wing]

They both are lol

[pine verge]

The weapon modifier in chaos is pretty meh given you cant use abilities at all lol. I think thats a pretty bad example. Many buffs in cordon are general damage % too

[neon pebble]

You just want it to be a bad example. It clearly shows the gap that modifiers can cause between Flat and %. Meanwhile % benefits from both technically. Boosted weapon dmg makes % do more into boosted ability dmg. So general % buffs are a double buff 👀

[true basin]

Happy moms day to all the moms

[neon pebble]

Flats dont hold up when inflation hits unless also inflated

% always has a chance at comeback

[pine verge]

Ability damage isnt really flat, it's just a different category of damage. Weapon damage is also "flat", it just is buffed by other modifiers

[neon pebble]

I dont want to shelf my dude for forever. Shelving them for a few months though is acceptable

[neon pebble]

You know we are discussing flat vs % wpn masteries dont sidetrack into ability talk. If you get a 30% all dmg boost then the flat is boosted by 30% only.
% is boosted weapon dmg by 30% into boosted mastery 30%, double dip.

[pine verge]

Weapon masteries that are ability damage are treated the same as abilities. Im also pretty sure they dont double dip as it is right now.

[thorny frost]

Flat damage will be enhanced by ability % but weapon % masteries will not. They got rid of the double stacking (mainly happened with elemental substats tho) so ability/skill % will not affect weapon % damage (haven’t tested exact details in Chaos specifically but the substats had been tested).

[neon pebble]

They used to 👀 they took only the element double dip off afaik

[pine verge]

If they double dipped gwynn wouldnt hit like a wet noodle

[neon pebble]

The arti elemental substats were double dipping overtime because it would trigger like 3 times? Was crazy

[pine verge]

Imagine HH double dipping

Weapon hit + mastery + t6 drone hit

[neon pebble]

It triggered for wpn, then base ability, then again for the final resolve. Some % wpn masteries are dmg bonus and some are "an extra instance of dmg"

It was going ham

[neon pebble]

Gwynns are Base Wpn Dmg, thats terrible when your base wpn dmg on a primary is under 100. Manifesto is double base dmg of the other sidearms, it is working good for her

Imagine if Gwynn had Bow

Or HC

Im js food for thought, I dont think flats are all that great for longevity. They are amaze for the moment though imo

[neon pebble]

HH is a dmg buff not an extra instance of dmg

Kabeard could qualify for a "double dip"

[thorny frost]

They are different, if the kit is designed for them they do well, the same for % damage. It is more on the kit then it being flat or % based, reminder every RoF buff increases Eatela weapon mastery (part of why the mod system helped her out too). Design of kit is the most important aspect. Now if a weapon did end up coming out that says over took Estela dps that it alone was 50% of her damage and had stupidly low RoF and was still BiS for her then there would be more argument. But it is as easily doable that they make a weapon deal 25% damage and give a buff that increase the users damage by 300% (not happening as it would boost skill damage to much, but this is in essence what is being stated for weapon creep).

[neon pebble]

What happened to Attal?

[thorny frost]

He didn’t, his was tested at the beginning and his was just %.

[neon pebble]

Attal was goat

Now her Flats dont keep up

[thorny frost]

She also was hit by the weapon enhancing things that it shouldn’t. I believe she was also abusing Arablast bug. Right after its release she was getting a huge damage increase on her weapon mastery that was equivalent of the damage increase Arablest got on shields… probably what qued in the devs to the issue.

[neon pebble]

You won't sell me on flats being good for longevity

[neon pebble]

Iron Bar she was destroying, Fair Play made her shine like estella

[pine verge]

HH is another instance lol

[neon pebble]

They can say whatever they want, most times devs wont do a big nerf they will call it a "bug fix" even though its been bugged for 2 years since launch just so they can nerf without hearing people cry

[neon pebble]

Extra sounds like +

[thorny frost]

I they balanced her ability specifically for iron bar, kind of like Estela is nerfed in PvP from her base kit XD

[neon pebble]

Estela is nerfed?

[pine verge]

They arent really flat given how much stuff multiplies their damage

Emanare, damage bonus from HH, signature boost, damage bonus, etc etc

[thorny frost]

Yea they modified her near the beginning of the game (season 2 beginning?). The one I remember most is that her summons go were lowered so they are heck of a lot easier to kill.

[neon pebble]

They buffed her a ton, she is still only lightbearer who can cast without interrupting fire

[thorny frost]

Honestly there are a lot more that are probably nerfed. One part of fair play for pvp is that “abilities are adjusted”

[neon pebble]

I feel like Attal wpn mastery nerf was all content not pvp specific

[thorny frost]

She was just one of them that got hit with patch notes about it

[bold fog]

Ted?

[neon pebble]

These patch notes are so bad, hard to find

[thorny frost]

All I can say currently is that weapon damage thing hit it. I didn’t have a deep dive into her abilities since so I don’t have numbers to really see if her flat was adjusted. Still thinking it is at least largely a PvP thing, but something else could have happened too.

[neon pebble]

No substats in PvP, no artifacts no talents

Rossi wpn mastery still destroys in Iron Bar

Hits stupid hard in fair play

[bitter estuary]

til eternal death

it doesnt add, instead it overlaps any dmg buff

which is stupid

[thorny frost]

Yea it was probably a pvp specific nerf on her then as they have similar flat numbers

Actually hers is stronger when using fusion rifles.

[thorny frost]

Yea I know, I was stating that the weapon damage thing was the only aspect I could say for sure that altered her kit.

[neon pebble]

Uhh...

She got hit hard, if she was 800 and rossi got buffed

Ill take a rossi buff 😭 🤣

[thorny frost]

So I learned one thing about using archives now, apparently it takes the level of your unit XD I thought it showed lvl 18 stats. FYI, you don’t have arc missles leveled

It will enhance her weapon mastery

[neon pebble]

Ohh, tooltip doesnt say it will 😭

[thorny frost]

Click the damage number (210)

All flat damage are scaled on one of the abilities. It is so they don’t get out of hand at the beginning of the game (when weapons are weaker too) and can be balanced easier in fair play…. Also this means if they ever power creep old weapons they might just add more levels to our skills increasing flat damage now that I think about it too.

“Level 100 has arrived, units can now raise their skills to lvl 20”

[neon pebble]

Would be legit

I just dont see longevity and been waiting on the real gacha creep to start. Most gacha turn it up hard 1st anniversary

Tbf nobody will survive that

[thorny frost]

There is truth in that… watching an old game I left due to lack of new content… new units kill the “boss challenge” mob in like 15 seconds… originally fights were designed for 3 minutes.

[lilac spindle]

i got a question , should i max out my wolf talents wise?

[empty kettle]

Yes

[lilac spindle]

oke

is it a bad idea to also level up h-ikora up alongisde the wolf'

[neon pebble]

This is where we were doing expanse 30-40 runs in under a minute 🤣

[empty kettle]

No

[vast arch]

HH weapon mastery is an additional instance of damage

[lilac spindle]

other than that , how should i be playing hair ikora?

[sharp talon]

are u t6?

[thorny frost]

So like half way through season 1 XD…. I just realized, for the general populace they are doing the opposite issue compared to launch, they admitted they were raising difficulty to slow… now they are raising it to fast for the general populace.

[neon pebble]

Extra sounds like +

[empty kettle]

Just need to find the right balance

[lilac spindle]

me?

[empty kettle]

Soon mythic Wolf could be here

[vast arch]

When you have salvo there is an additional damage number, not increasing individual number

[sharp talon]

ye

[neon pebble]

Thats wild, ok good to know. Tooltips are always misleading

[lilac spindle]

idk what t6 means , sorry

[sharp talon]

max talent tree

[vast arch]

that little number is 40% of the original shot

[lilac spindle]

is that like constelations?

if so no

[sharp talon]

what does this page show ?

[neon pebble]

That you a whale

[sharp talon]

i didnt spend anything on ikora t6 besides blessing 💀

[lilac spindle]

oh i see , i got none of these , i only got 1 copy of her

[neon pebble]

Bro we know that wig wasnt cheap 🤣

[lilac spindle]

😭

[sharp talon]

fr tho i spent more on pandora than to t6 ikora

[lilac spindle]

if im t0 what does it change? @sharp talon

[neon pebble]

Use your 180 pull choice on her. Try to max her. As a new player id full send all in on Hairkora

[sharp talon]

yea idk. at t6 she has a specific type of gameplay

[lilac spindle]

ah i see i didnt know

[lilac spindle]

ok gotcha , sadly i got the robot t1 accidently but i didnt use the 180 choice on him

[thorny frost]

Specially for farming. I am waiting to see how many people get to floor 70 in the expanses as that feels like the floor they want most players to get to. With farming being made easier that might be doable for most then.

[neon pebble]

I too have had bad luck, but its ok. You have on copy of her to start building and can get more of her from standard draws with luck

[lilac spindle]

yeah true this game showers you with standard pulls only sadly

[sharp talon]

its harder to t6 her compared to her long event banner

[waxen abyss]

Does Emanare will get reset or removed ?

[neon pebble]

Only at the beginning. Later on we get alot of lumia and limited draws

[sharp talon]

it was very easy then 😢

[lilac spindle]

oh really? good

i feel like im being starved of limited pulls man :7

[neon pebble]

End game content hands out roughly a 10draw per week

[lilac spindle]

im drooling.

but back to the question i asked before , at t0 how should i be playing hairkora

[neon pebble]

Like a boss

[lilac spindle]

thanks

[neon pebble]

Im lookin for guides

[lilac spindle]

ah ok , for bosses i try to make use of her insta reload for rockets... idk if thats how i should use it

[neon pebble]

I have to go in game and look

[lilac spindle]

okay , i have another question , how or when do i start unlocking exotics

[neon pebble]

When you get to blitzes, wont take long

[lilac spindle]

ok thats awesome , i just got to lvl81 too so i shsouldnt be too far off endgame i hope

[neon pebble]

This is best T1 Ikora I could find in game, idk how accurate any of this is

Here is #1 NA hairkora spread expanse

[sharp talon]

what stage is he at

what is that build 😭 vulnerability bonus

[empty kettle]

Reset

[timber citrus]

They'll have lower emanare resource costs next season. This season is just to drain our reserves

[bitter estuary]

i believe in wolf meta

[neat valley]

And then the new grind for lvl 100 artifacts

[bitter estuary]

billions must wolf

[empty kettle]

Our guardian will soon reach their full potential

[timber citrus]

For LV100 artifacts I'm just not gonna worry about Chaos until like week 4 when we can get 5 star drops. Super easy to just attribute transfer over. And the power levels for the first few weeks should be doable with our 90s if it's like this season

The real pain is gonna be exotic weapon lattice without all those catalyst synthesizer freebies we got this time 😭

[leaden epoch]

What are the most tanky 1 and 2 artifact options for Efrideet? Could just be a skill issue, but I'm stuck on lvl 70 piercing due to running out of time on the last segment of the boss. I think if I were a bit more damage resistant I could push harder to wrap up knights quicker.

[twilit thistle]

💀 someone has reinvented the wheel that even i know has been around a long time.

[visual rain]

bruh

everyone knows ts 😭

we been doing this since august

[stark forge]

nimble veil is enough

[bitter estuary]

we been doing this since the game releases idk

[twilit thistle]

Same modifiers I benchmarked this on actually. 🤔 should work. I think i tested the electric one and had awful results iirc. Umeko seems to cause detonations everywhere just using shurikans, and also the synergy of lighting everything you touch on fire can’t be beaten. Tip: shurikans can ricochet

[river vigil]

Dont worry, there was the obligated spike shell vs born equal argument happening in the thread

[visual rain]

reddit 👍

[river vigil]

sadly Tariq's barrier prevents the reflection damage

[twilit thistle]

Don’t claim the chests and don’t use him. Thats what I had to do for other characters. Do not use him in there 😭

[neon pebble]

62

[visual rain]

how is bro so bad he can't even farm chaos properly

sounds like I made the right call skipping this guy

[river vigil]

I have to main him for the season, sadly I will have to do steel plate today

[twilit thistle]

Either use Ning comet, or the alternative build mentioned 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have options now at least, even if 100% of everyone just uses Ning comet

[visual rain]

Ning or efri comets better?

Ning has speed but his abilities are slower so idk

[river vigil]

efri can spawn them faster/more often

[leaden epoch]

That's only 3s though right?

[visual rain]

Honestly tho at 100% nimble I find her abilities are TOO fast to recharge

So maybe the ning speed boost is better

[twilit thistle]

Not only are his abilities bad, they require mele comet, and his super prevents you from punching, also locking you out of a 40% dmg boost. Umeko on the other hand has none of these issues, and debuffs.

🤷🏼‍♀️

[stark forge]

3s is enough when u have dash spam anyway

[misty fiber]

@sharp talon ❤️

[thorny frost]

Eh, not really? Besides a couple materials that have been stated (mainly for weapons) we get more materials now then previous seasons. We get 60 incandesence clusters an act now, so over 3 units skills leveled, we get 30-35 Möbius clusters a week. We got hit hard season 4 as a lot of things happened basically at once, a few adjustments to some mats and the system will basically be fine for encouraging playing the game without being to expensive.

[timber citrus]

'a few adjustments to some mats and the system will basically be fine' is exactly what i've said. agreed

[rotund flame]

God i hope so, I'm not really getting my hopes up though with the way things have been going

[visual rain]

Part of the materials problem tho is that the content that drops those materials is so boring

Nobody willingly plays legacy or morgran

[cyan tide]

You don't need to do a lot of them tbf
Morgran's and legacy rewards are pretty generous for the most part

[visual rain]

nah

I had to do like an hour of morgran for one 5* weapon

[dusty spire]

Freekora!
crystal and select next month start of next month and T6

[cyan tide]

And if you're farming adept weapons then you'll end up with a lot of materials because morgran's and legacy are the best way to farm mythics

[visual rain]

yeah but hear me out right

[misty fiber]

@sharp talon my time is unfortunately done for today, sry 🙁

[visual rain]

it's boring and mindless af

[cyan tide]

Eh, sometimes it's easier to grind stuff if you can turn off your brain. Strikes and blitz requiring more conscious thought unironically makes them more draining lol

[thorny frost]

I was more replying to the lowering cost part. Adjustments I meant more like adding more sources for them. Some of the weapon ones aren’t really in common activities (the bottles should be in strikes/blitz like before).

[visual rain]

The whole game is like this tho

there is nothing in the game which requires neuron activation that isn't either high cordon stages or expanse

and you aren't doing either of those to grind materials

Adept morgran/legacy would go hard if it dropped double the stuff

[thorny frost]

I want to see a legacy “event” where the defense of the core is more predominant. Send more raiders, send boss mobs and give us milestone rewards based on how long we can defend it before it reaches zero. Improving upon morgues hunt and adding some more event that are harder/more engaging versions of our game modes would help. Alternate them and this allows for better matchmaking too.

[dusty spire]

Ok I’m done for now don’t like this mines thing but at least it’s over

[bold fog]

Gz

Isn't the solar gl trash tho

[dusty spire]

No

Shield pop

[bold fog]

I thought the final column was all conditional perks and timers

[astral bear]

Arc boost or solar on artifacts?

[bitter estuary]

you can just use splash fest on 2ndd

[dusty spire]

Shield pop lands heavy true damage in enemy once shield goes

So your just finishing off

[bitter estuary]

i find this really decent

that being said if you wanna go push expanse it seems that the meta is mesicku+ssb

[dusty spire]

That’s what you want

[cyan tide]

One of the perk upgrades only giving 9% blast damage is tragic

[bitter estuary]

the only thing sd lacks is perk upgrades

[bitter estuary]

the 2nd one is new and would probably be more consistent

as it'd trigger as long as you do a direct hit

[twilit thistle]

If only Morgrans hunt was a thing and each chest you get has a higher % chance to drop the mats 😔 ts was dropping artifacts with worse stats than lvl 80 ones.

[bitter estuary]

ensured yields requires ATLEAST a final blow

[dusty spire]

Here’s a better read

This is shield pop

Just read it makes sense

[bitter estuary]

oh yeah splash fest improves on the blast radius

[cyan tide]

Iirc direct hit damage on heavy GLs is very low, no? So both perk upgrades are mid. I do agree that it's better than running ensured yields tho

[dusty spire]

Plus the new elemental mod

[bitter estuary]

yeah but it increases each direct hit, tariq revolves around CC so you'd prefer using something with better blast radius

same reason why people are running ssb for expanse, it's the blast radius

tsurinobuse worked for maru because of her passive, so it's not the best pick for tariq

[bitter estuary]

game so dead i see no one in my clan who's on for pack bosses

[drowsy cypress]

just swap clan😏

still waiting for this lore

[bitter estuary]

balls

[bitter estuary]

are you grinding proficiency

[drowsy cypress]

a bit. Just unlocked WIRSTBAND

2 more to go

[sharp talon]

i used tariq for daily commissions and he seemed fun

[tropic swift]

Really? 😂

[oblique geyser]

Will recheck later what he uses 👍

[astral bear]

Thanks 🙂

[twilit thistle]

||balls||

[twilit thistle]

Server merge 😠

[crisp shuttle]

Balls

[crisp shuttle]

Server merge could help get MM times down

[visual rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441230422074720498/1502133013067071578/RDT_20260424_1652125439861200370024234.gif

[molten pulsar]

Thought... What if Tariq is supposed to be Mythic Wolf?

[thorny frost]

Matchmaking needs some tlc, there are just to many things to que for and we are limited in how often we can que (can’t que during solo content). Been saying for a bit, let us que for multiple things, while we are doing solo content. Ect. I would so que for more content if I was able to run legendary/chaos while waiting. I would que for all three raids at the same time as I have the weapons now.

[oak kettle]

honestly both of these would be good

also the ability to turn off bots in cordon cus having to reQ every 2 minutes is pain

but as is multiQ and solo content not locking Qs would be amazing cus of what you mentioned

and also having to bounce between like 4 or 5 different activity queues to see which one is closest to full is so tiring

[empty kettle]

Nah, they already got sentinel Wolf in purgatory somewhere just waiting for his mythic to drop

[stark forge]

multi queue 4 game mode then get 4 matches at the same time what will u choose

[thorny frost]

Yea I do that with the raid it is frustrating, saw like 7 people qued between the three at one point. If we could get them all together we could easily get faster ques lol. But yea having a button to select “no bots” would be nice.

If they did the system I am thinking, the player qued would probably have to be hidden in the back ground, and would be a perfect time to implement the no bots selection.

[stark forge]

they can put all raid encounter in random playlist like strike/blitz

just press queue 1 place only for the raid

[thorny frost]

It would definitely help the raid part, allow us to focus specific raid weapons amongst all of them. Allow premades to be able to enter any tho. In the end tho we would still have to many things to que for, we need to be able to condense the spread of the player base.

[crisp shuttle]

There is a matchmaking option for all things, but it’s very hard to find in the UI, it should be up on the top of everything. First thing you see.

[stark forge]

best way is sunset everything except raid and strikes

[crisp shuttle]

And they should let you queue while in solo content, I agree with that

[stark forge]

compact resources needed for gears and throw into the raid loot pool

[thorny frost]

Isn’t that just fireteam finder? If not I will need to look around a bit for it.

[crisp shuttle]

No, it’s legitimately the queue for all activities (tbh I’ve only been invited there, haven’t been able to track it down myself), but it’s hard to find, and it doesn’t seem towards room well (waited for a queue for 5 min in there, nothing, went to strike and queued up, got a match instantly)

Also a good thing I’ve found to do is start a conversation with other players first to get them interacting with you, then invite them to do things together (last night I got a 5 stack for 2 hours this way and we had a nice time grinding together)

[twilit thistle]

Choice is an illusion, because youd deny them all and go right into chaos.

[crisp shuttle]

Chaos grind is real

Strike grind right now for specific weapons is what’s I’m doing… waiting for a god drop… I’ve gotten 80 of the same gun now, enough to max out a good drops perks easily, (I have 4+ with each top rated perk) I just need 1 to drop with both…

[stark forge]

yeah reject all queue and leave others waiting in anger

[oak kettle]

of course

[dusty spire]

I got him in 180 with using activation but I think I got lucky, I’d hold until you get at least that 260pull threshold with an activation ready so you’re not stressing to complete what’s available to you.

Also what’s released for next week?
Harder challenges?

[river vigil]

prestige guanted onslaught

[oblique geyser]

So 1 mobius per complétion on adept raid tomorrow

[thorny frost]

O yea I have joined up with a few people this way, ran adepts this week with like one other person as he was impressed I could keep up with Jolder. It is more due to a que system existing it should be refinered. Specially for mobile games, that is where I think a lot of people will go to when just wanting to go quick. It feels like the game is dieing if you can’t find anything, even if multiple other people are queing but all in different things.

[rotund flame]

Wow how disappointing. Even the adept mods are at 2% 💀

[oblique geyser]

Photon PTSD🤣

[crisp shuttle]

I agree, the game dis feel like it’s dying if you don’t understand how the queue system works all the way

[regal gulch]

Just reset wheel when you got all the things you wanted

[oak kettle]

yes, that's the problem

[oblique geyser]

Adept raid burn phase with tariq

[oak kettle]

the 1 thing i want is the last thing on the wheel

[sharp talon]

anything about leviathan?

[rotund flame]

I hate the bots in cordon because they just take up space and do nothing but troll

[oblique geyser]

No info for now but if there was anything, i guess we would have some.video already🫠

[sharp talon]

also, u can infinitely grind adept and exotic mods from it now?

[oblique geyser]

Yes

6-7 mins run for 2% chance and 1 mat is crazy though...

[river vigil]

yes those are basic claim rewards

[oblique geyser]

One grenade hit 14 millionn btw🔥

[river vigil]

I'll try to do at least 50 prestige clears next week I have x2 and x3 claims to use up

[twilit thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

2/105

[twilit thistle]

Need 5,000

[fresh moat]

At least it ain’t capped now 🥲 (cope)

[river vigil]

I would, but it isnt chaos

Tbh its probably better to burn the x2 and x3 in lc but I want the double and triple attempt at the 2%

[oblique geyser]

I already see people crying because its too hard and they cant solo pug 🫠

When i see the 3rd raid already where taking an orb is a problem☠️

[river vigil]

My mesicku needs a mag after all

[naive ingot]

Or they can join us for cookies 😁🍪

[potent inlet]

Quick question to see if I'm not that stupid: in Emanare, the green areas show which nodes are affecting the character or all the branching from it counts?

[twilit thistle]

I wanted to suggest this, but I respect him too much. ||Balls||

[naive ingot]

But server Merge is gonna happen soon 😔

[thorny frost]

All nodes affect the unit you have active. The green aura around a unit is an area in which they are enhancing the nodes further. A featured unit who is 85k aura will enhance those nodes by +30% (the number you see in parenthesis), this is addative with other auras that overlap that slot, and all of the 1.8% attribute bonuses that all your units have (the attribute bonus affects every node on the board).

[potent inlet]

Tac u da goat, thanks

[thorny frost]

Glad to help, it has confused a lot of players so far.

[twilit thistle]

Think thats a new pb for me

[limber furnace]

So difficult to make some skins for the new characters, not even some recolor ?

[twilit thistle]

Recolor is one thing, but i do hear it is quite costly, and isnt easy.

[livid monolith]

Need advice. Stuck on a quest.

[limber furnace]

Costly? They already have done the design

A repaint is nothing

[twilit thistle]

Not for the reclor, for a new one.

[limber furnace]

I can do it myself in minutes

[twilit thistle]

They wont let us 🙁

[limber furnace]

Let us mod your game

[twilit thistle]

Theres a server that was served a DMCA for getting into the files.

Its focus was just that, on 3d art.

[limber furnace]

Hmm

[twilit thistle]

"Destiny Model Rips"

[cursive depot]

Rather new design than recolor

[limber furnace]

Also shave those male characters

It's ewww

[twilit thistle]

Since then, nobody has been able to get in the files. Only 1 person that i know of actually still has to tools to get in and they wont share it.

[limber furnace]

That guy Looks like a squirrel died on his face

Tariq

[twilit thistle]

Trust. For the wiki/archive that i am making of everything, its all manually being screenshotted.

[cursive depot]

You making a wiki?

[limber furnace]

Fandom wiki

Can't wait for them to raise the power level to 200 next time

[twilit thistle]

Right now its collecting the data. Youd be suprised just how much random stuff you find in there.

[limber furnace]

To small to read

Bad font colors

[livid monolith]

Anyone willing to give me advice on a quest?

[twilit thistle]

Imagine having to manually screenshot every single perk.

[cyan tide]

What quest?

[limber furnace]

Ooh, you reminded me that I need to farm again those artifacts perks

🪿

Also the gun perks, so hard to do

Invest one day of work into a perk that raises the magazine from 28 to 36 or some

That's why I will have my character at like 65 70 k powers and that's it

[livid monolith]

Every inch counts. Talk to Mu Ying about claiming commissions. The only option I have is reputation level.

[hardy pilot]

@limber furnace @twilit thistle You 2 are making a wiki?

[limber furnace]

I have a question, for those who haven't finish Gwynn the first limited time, did your progress in aquering her was reset or you started from where you left?

[limber furnace]

I don't.

[cyan tide]

When you press the button to follow the quest where does it point you to? Maybe you have to swap to Wolf to start the quest

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar is working on it. Im building the database side of that while we wait. ts can eos, and you can still play shadowshaper

[cyan tide]

You mean the pity? It's shared between limited banners

[limber furnace]

Cuz I have like 23 pulls left on Estella and I wanna know if the next time she will come back I have to start over from 60 again

[livid monolith]

It takes me to Mu Ying. Im playing as Wolf.

[hardy pilot]

Because I also already started doing a wiki.

[limber furnace]

No, if they keep the number of pulls you did before acquiring t0

[cyan tide]

Hmm, check the map to see if you have blue quest markers

[livid monolith]

Did those as well

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar is who u want to speak to. There's already a wiki, and other sites shut us down bc of it. (its super outdated)

[cyan tide]

It's shared between banners, if you do 20 pulls on Gwynn's banner your pity will be at 40 for Tariq. The pity doesn't reset when banners change

[twilit thistle]

All I have been doing is collecting images of everything.

[cyan tide]

Idk then, do you have any other quests you can do? Maybe you have to do something else before doing that one

[hardy pilot]

Ok I contacted them.
I also sent you the link to my wiki via DM

[limber furnace]

I already had Gwynn from the first limited time banner, I was curious cuz I had only 23 left on Estella before she got out

Did that progress restarted?