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[dusty spire]

Always a lingering orb sometime

[fiery marsh]

I think its cause the dmg is more spread out and each shrapnel does less dmg

[dusty spire]

On direct hit we create a echo so anything within that echo get hit

Patridge is direct damage more spread pallets

Imo one of the best weapons in game lol

Beautiful thing

[fiery marsh]

For partridge, each individual shrapnel hits 103k

And i think the little orb thingies have more health than 100k

So like 2 perfect heavy hits to break the spread shinka

[dusty spire]

Single and silly

I think I can definitely squeeze more this is default I need to change gems ect for power weapon ect

Hmm actually I should test pure blast? And see the difference

This is blast art 1 and art 2 30% dmg up

[oblique geyser]

Hmm looks good enough to reach ikora's level on spread or rapid fire expanse i guess 👍

With the huge difference to dont play with a glass cannon like ikora🫠

[dusty spire]

Thanks for this I’ll definitely try once I get some time

[lament nexus]

how good is tariq, he seems fun to play for me but he is defender not attacker so how is his damage comparing to Jarren?

[thorny frost]

The difference between this and your radiation might be due to substats. For Estela, and specially when running Heir, you typically want to have solar damage. The 2 interchangeable stats for her tends to be weapon damage or super damage based on what you are trying to do. Basically with super over solar you are giving up a 15% ish damage increase on 100% of her damage for a 25% ish increase on 10% of the damage and 13% (?) for 5 seconds after super is casted (which is before you ramp up in these tests fully). I also think the 25% increase is addative with bonus damage but I haven’t tested that since the change, it use to be with ability damage.

[polar summit]

You can’t compare them tbh since they play two completely different roles

Jaren is pure raw dmg while Tariq usefulness is to tank dmg, give shield to your teammates so they can do more dmg safely while trying to do dmg

Problem is everyone’s worried on who can do more dmg on less sec in practice range, not the real utility of a character or the ideal team setup for an encounter

[dusty spire]

This !!!

[stark forge]

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[elder wing]

Tariq meta

[bitter estuary]

finnala 2.0 tariq meta

[brittle zodiac]

yup it cancel if theres open space on the ground but being its character within 15m to be effective it just a play style adjusment

tariq role is team survivability at high content

[rotund flame]

Honestly probably better to compare him to Gwen. At least she has a better heavy and feels like she actually does damage lol

But yeah side arms are so bad, they really need a buff to shinka shields 😭

[brittle zodiac]

just my opinion tariqs potential is heavily dependent on the catalyst 3 of this battle pass gun

its the only gun that can instance damage while reloading

[timber stag]

i’ll stick to my jank-ass tan-2 with cloudstrike

[brittle zodiac]

yeah there is so many characters to enjoy

[timber stag]

too many characters use snipers so cloudstrike was an obvious investment this season

[brittle zodiac]

i still believe jolder is meta now but theres only a few who cann really use it

[grand panther]

Tariq the aura goat

[severe mason]

I went down a rabbit hole trying to find Tariq’s voice actor(haven’t found it yet) but found out that Jolder and Ash Ketchum are the same person

[polar summit]

Did u unlock cat 3?

[brittle zodiac]

nxt week but i have seen t6 with it and they told me huge differece on damage over time

[polar summit]

Ahh alright, when I read it I thought it wouldn’t make a big diff

[brittle zodiac]

its like ning with maha cat 3 was super essential

[polar summit]

Ye for now at cat 2 I feel it’s very replaceable for Concerto or the arc mythic

[brittle zodiac]

cat 50% added damage then cat 3 another 50% on detonations it should do something

i honestly pulled for tarik because of the weapon

since the weapon over time damage procs while being used while concerto is dependent on kill to get activated

might also work for gwyn but i dont have gwyn so maybe

[polar summit]

Ye but dmg wise concerto worked better at least on expanse

[brittle zodiac]

yeah i woudlnt really know since i dont have her

i just like the idea that it ads damage while reloading which is such a fun thing to see on a weapon that reloading activated another set of damage

[polar summit]

Ye I’m with you, I hope it gets 100% better, but as of now I think it’s a disappointment like TED for efrideet

[lilac spindle]

Hi guys , how's Tariq? Is he good or did he not meet your expectations

[bitter estuary]

Its either t0 or t6

Ppl seem to be really mixed

[polar summit]

It’s day 2, people are still figuring out how to use him, he is the better defensive character of the game by far, can’t compare him to offensive characters dps wise

[brittle osprey]

Wait, did tariq ghost mention deep stone crypt? Like the one on europa?

[brittle zodiac]

honestly if your for damage on weapons,grenade lauchers needs to be buffed,if your comparing to jaren handcannon for life but as its own sustain support and damage over time pretty good for me

[brittle zodiac]

exactly

[brittle zodiac]

yeah cuz the talents in between plus hes kill makes him a nuke

[dusty spire]

He’s a sustained damage brawler

[indigo solar]

1. Story, 2) RSR, 3) RSR, 4) Haven, 5) RSR, 6) Haven, 7) Morgran's Prey, 8) RSR, 9) Wolf Den, 10) Wolf Den

[indigo thistle]

Yeah, I'm not sure he's ever going to win any DPS races, but he shrugs off damage like they're shooting blanks.

[dusty spire]

With defensive utility

He’s good

[fresh moat]

Ted was good for 2 days then the crimson meta appeared 🥲

[dusty spire]

And his kit has a lot of play atm for all elements still early but he’s amazing from what I’m experiencing

[sullen depot]

I remember when I first mentioned the crimson meta pple said I was trolling cuz the gun was doggy

And here we are

[indigo thistle]

Yeah, I had Smartbomb already levelled up, so I went Mesicku + Smartbomb, and I gotta say, I really like it. The ROF on Mesicku just feels great, especially with Blaze Shot.

[dusty spire]

Feels like double smg lol

[narrow trail]

I love crimson too but especially on Efrideet

[indigo thistle]

Eats Rapid Fire Shinkas for lunch.

[dusty spire]

Yup

[fresh moat]

I might’ve said that as well. That gun was hotdog water in d2

[dusty spire]

His arc build is fun

It’s a different playstyle to solar that’s what I like

[polar summit]

Now imagine if he was arc lol

[dusty spire]

I’d appreciate an arc type

But I’m absolutely happy with this one

The more you play with him the better it gets lol

[narrow trail]

Honestly that’s true, I didn’t like him at first but the more I seen him and play him the more I like him. He’s pretty unique and a nice change of pace for playstyle.

[timber citrus]

Like other 4 stars, he's fun to switch it up and use him for daily commissions or pack hunt every now and again

[dusty spire]

Never mind noise that ain’t stretched him

Anyways so far this is what I’ve got for arc and solar

I’ll change solar once I’ve got a set but for now my universal radiant training set works in him

Arc is quite flexible you can swap a few arts around depending one what playstyle you want which is where if your playing him you notice in the fun part

[indigo thistle]

I went Inverted Fury in III - because as long as your barriers are up, you never lose shields. So... you never lose shields 😉

[polar summit]

Have you tested blinding plasma vs explosive shell for 4th slot on arc build?

[heady obsidian]

11k black market coins for one legendary decal that used to be in seasonal engrams is crazy work LMAOOO

[polar summit]

Also this radiation kit seems pretty bad, I’ve never tested it tho

[surreal berry]

Solar Exotic
ummm?... Is it Catalyst02?...

[indigo thistle]

Your barriers are almost constantly up, and I find I mostly use the sidearms (to trigger Blaze Shot, etc.) so I don't think it would work as well.

[heady obsidian]

elemental condensate is 180 silver each

that means that buying a character outright is $60

That is absurd

[red geyser]

Isn't that purple artifact for summons ?

[polar summit]

I’m using prep plasma on 3

[sullen depot]

his barrier is a summon

[south agate]

Let alone the 200+ needed for Ascension 5

[red geyser]

The super ?

[heady obsidian]

so $300 LMAO

that's if you own the character too

[indigo thistle]

Dual Thermodynamics (the boomerang signature) creates a barrier around him

[south agate]

Also why in gods name is Substitute Universal Condensate by default ON? I almost used 25 of them on Hairkora

[red geyser]

Oh

[sullen depot]

if an ability shows barrierthen it is a summon

[heady obsidian]

$300 for a 20% damage boost

[south agate]

What a name!

[red geyser]

Understood

[surreal berry]

DID this person FARM Legendary Campaign for the Contextual Dataset?

[sullen depot]

full ascension is not necessary. its just a way for whales to spend their money which is why the high cost

[heady obsidian]

I didn't say it was necessary I'm saying it's ridiculous

[fresh moat]

300? It cost 250 just to go from 4 to 5

[polar summit]

Did your barrier ever break badly enough that you needed to use the Ward Pact artifact?”

[fresh moat]

Full ascension is like 750

[heady obsidian]

1 condensate does NOT need to be $1.50

[fresh moat]

New to gachas? Consider this generous

[heady obsidian]

sorry I did the math wrong and assumed each one was 40 condensate I forgot it scaled up for... some reason

[sullen depot]

i mean thats is why it is for whales lol

[jolly grove]

Way cheaper through all the bundles in the store

[sullen depot]

compared to other gachas, DR aint doing much to get money from whales

[cursive depot]

yea im looking at ascension in a super F2P mindset

[fresh moat]

Exactly. Be grateful there’s no weapon and artifact banner

[cursive depot]

it will happen eventually

[bold fog]

Do y'all think there's estella in 20 days?

[sullen depot]

lol imagine there was a weapon banner. most of pple herewill cry

[heady obsidian]

"be grateful" what has society come to 💔

[cursive depot]

yea

[indigo thistle]

She's in the Emanare, so it would make sense.

[brittle osprey]

Tariq dont have quest???

[jolly grove]

Maybe not exactly 20 days but she's around the corner

[fresh moat]

It’s an honest statement. Gachas are extremely predatory. This one is very tame

[bold fog]

No trailer
No quest
No trial

[cursive depot]

nah we need to keep the double banner thing going

[heady obsidian]

I think that means other things should be better not be happy it's not worse

[fresh moat]

If this was like genshin lmfao people wouldn’t even play 😂

[cursive depot]

1 rerun 1 new

[sullen depot]

for real. other gachas, the first time you get a character is a 50/50 in draws. this game guarantees it right on the go

[jolly grove]

Id rather get t6 umeko for void season then estella

[fresh moat]

No 50-50 is wild. Like mythic guaranteed

I done lost 3 50-50s before that is painnnnnnn lol

[brittle osprey]

Jesus...they cut the budget ig

[bold fog]

Y? We have so many void no auto

[jolly grove]

Cause I like umeko 🤷‍♂️

[cursive depot]

they are not going to have 2 new characters going

[sullen depot]

imagine genshins weapon banner in this game LOL

[fresh moat]

If you had to hit a banner to get your weapons and ended up with jotuun

[bitter estuary]

Balls

[bold fog]

Too f2p for that
What was it like?

[cursive depot]

you have to factor in the giant rework they just did to the game

[fresh moat]

Lmfao

Just imagine you saved all your pulls to max a character. You save for 6 months.

When you roll you only get c1 of said character and 6 standard ssrs and not one of his weapon

[lament nexus]

people praised this game at launch for better than destiny 2, now it has the same fate?

[bold fog]

Eww

[polar summit]

@sullen depot

[fresh moat]

I would say the game is fun it’s just obvious they don’t care. Same with d2 sadly

[sullen depot]

ward pact aint worth imo. its just 11% DR since u can only have one barrier/summon up at a time

[bold fog]

It's sad they have zero advertising

[signal phoenix]

Insert mid Efri Build Here 😂

[bold fog]

Like they don't know how to make money

[sullen depot]

just got CHiarusco for flat 25% DR or resolute conjunction 35% Dr up close

[polar summit]

Sry I meant bulwark pact

[signal phoenix]

Top tier mid build spotted

[fresh moat]

Bring cayde 6. F the timeline. Print money. Bring Mara. Bring Osiris

Put trials on the weekends. Ramp the toxicity up 😂😂😂😂

[brittle osprey]

I pray that we get destiny 3, full revamp and carry on the story with better team..

[grand panther]

Bring wrath back

[fresh moat]

In this lifetime? You optimistic as all hell

[sullen depot]

bulwark pact is needed if u wanna push high expanse + cordon with him. also since ur barriers can be applied on teammates as well it makes ur teammates beefier

[brittle osprey]

Bring red war to d rising

[sullen depot]

for low content u can prolly have a diff slot 2

[fresh moat]

A man of culture

[fresh moat]

It got deleted

[signal phoenix]

Whats Nine ?9️⃣

[brittle osprey]

Better be optimistic instead of losing hope

[fresh moat]

I rather them go all in on rising and just launch on console

[surreal berry]

144Silver (on discount)...
60Silver = AUD$1.99cents
x2 3.98

[sullen depot]

with those Sony revenue numbers, i dont think D2 ever coming back lol

[fresh moat]

They lost money lmfao

[sullen depot]

like 700mil

[signal phoenix]

Sony Microwave losing 😂

[polar summit]

That’s why I asked u if the barrier ever broke with you, cos I feel like it’s invincible and only breaks when the times up

[signal phoenix]

Sorry sorry I meant Microsoft Micro transaction😂

[sullen depot]

i havent used him to push super high stuff so idk. for his barrier you gotta think of urself + ur teammates as well basically. so more health is always better.

[fresh moat]

lol oh I know. It’s so tragic because destiny had so much potential

[brittle osprey]

Or....bring rising mechanics or similar to destiny 3, like more supers, unique abilities etc (dont bring gacha), and work from there. Tbh destiny rising aint better then destiny 2, if bungie implement ability mechanics similar to destiny rising, and polished it more so its more original, maybe it would work then.

[sullen depot]

all of Destiny is EOS bois

[brittle osprey]

Bungie mistake was making marathon too

[fresh moat]

Losing close to what you paid for the company is wild as hell lmfao just release ikora in a bikini

[sullen depot]

imo i feel like they should have called it at Final Shape. there was no need to continue D2 after that. it was the perfect ending

[fresh moat]

Agreed. Remove gacha from rising. Put it on console and boom

[sullen depot]

but greedy companies get greedy

[cyan tide]

I don't think so, they needed a different source of revenue because D2 was starting to lose player interest and they didn't want to make D3 for some reason

[fresh moat]

Waited 11million years for the witness and the end all for them to be like wait there’s more

[surreal berry]

Companies Require to Meet a Quota.

[fresh moat]

Rhulk being stronger than the witness also killed it for me

[weak ginkgo]

NetEase might take that spot

[polar summit]

Ye I can agree with u on teammates buff, but just for yourself I think it’s better more DR for income dmg on ur barrier, than just +50% health, hence why we used DR substats over health on artifacts

[brittle osprey]

Destiny 3 with brand new mechanics, and if bungie locked in, it would be far better choice tbh

[peak nova]

What's wrong with the game? Is the game dead? Why can't I find anyone to play Crucible every time? Why are there no people playing?

What's wrong with the game? Is the game dead? Why can't I find anyone to play Crucible every time? Why are there no people playing?

[empty kettle]

Stronger than the witness?

[sullen depot]

more health on ur beefy barrier is essentially more DR though cuz u are taking more damage. its one and the same.

[brittle osprey]

If they acknowledged their "mess up", they could have cooked

[fresh moat]

Yes lol by miles. He should’ve wiped the floor with us. He lost because of arrogance

[empty kettle]

The witness could do the same thing, but easier

[peak nova]

What's wrong with the game? Is the game dead? Why can't I find anyone to play Crucible every time? Why are there no people playing?

[brittle osprey]

Tbh witness could have wiped us out too. Remember what he did to that guardian in lightfall when he fly towards witness, he moved finger and he was cut along with ghost

[surreal berry]

🗣️ 📖

[cyan tide]

A brand new installment would definitely renew player interest, I don't feel like going back to D2 because there's so much stuff I missed out on and a the new player onboarding is still garbage by what I've seen

[fresh moat]

Crucible rewards suck. No one cares for emblem anymore

[brittle osprey]

I still do play destiny 2 from time to time tbh. I invested alot in that game, and play raids with friends sometimes

[fresh moat]

Unvault everything. Watch the money print itself

[surreal berry]

what emblem Reward?...

[cyan tide]

Watch the game explode before that happens

[fresh moat]

7 wins and 50 wins

[fresh moat]

😂 game would be 2tb

[cyan tide]

I don't think Bungie is holding old content hostage because they want to, there's definitely problems with bringing back vaulted content

[empty kettle]

That will instantly turn any poor ps4 into a bomb

[sullen depot]

JET noise intensifies

[surreal berry]

only thing would be to finish the "LightSaber" exotic missions

[cyan tide]

The D2 code is held together by hopes and dreams

[upbeat forge]

Destiny Rising is declining

[sullen depot]

"all of destiny"

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-say-nicolas-cage-wow-really-no-kidding-gif-5343842

[upbeat forge]

Destiny Rising Season 4 was a miss

[fresh moat]

That started when Gwynn’s banner first came out

[surreal berry]

LET"S have DESTINY GTA?... Yes?

[dark gulch]

the second time or??

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-mods-crush-his-skull-gif-454857235539207420

[dark gulch]

5 draws to get tariq like lolll

[peak nova]

And for that reason alone, I spend an hour looking for matches and people to play with? Obviously, the game isn't dead; it's more alive than ever, but it needs a huge improvement: more Crucible maps, more improvements, and more matches available at all times. It needs better performance and better graphics, which, by the way, are already incredible. I want more game modes, more story missions. I want, and like all of you, we want more content, and I can't wait 3-4 months for new content. It has to be more consistent. Come on, you can do it! Destiny Rising is by far the best mobile game, and Destiny is the best game in history, along with many other games. Destiny deserves all the love and passion on the planet 🌎👁️🌍🌌 and so it shall be.

[fresh moat]

PTSD second time 🥲 she bricked my first account. I hate her

[peak nova]

And for that reason alone, I spend an hour looking for matches and people to play with? Obviously, the game isn't dead; it's more alive than ever, but it needs a huge improvement: more Crucible maps, more improvements, and more matches available at all times. It needs better performance and better graphics, which, by the way, are already incredible. I want more game modes, more story missions. I want, and like all of you, we want more content, and I can't wait 3-4 months for new content. It has to be more consistent. Come on, you can do it! Destiny Rising is by far the best mobile game, and Destiny is the best game in history, along with many other games. Destiny deserves all the love and passion on the planet 🌎👁️🌍🌌 and so it shall be.

[dark gulch]

they need to drop the bikini outfit, people will spend some moolah

including me

[fresh moat]

Drop more cosmetics period. Drip is the true endgame in gachas

[upbeat forge]

This game had a good run

[dark gulch]

im saying!

[surreal berry]

FYI...
WE CAN ADD DISCORD ID on Destiny Rising NOW

[surreal berry]

179314260269072384

[dark gulch]

Yes its connected via Binding

[fresh moat]

Like nvm my character being max lv, you seee this swirly galaxy skin 😵‍💫

[upbeat forge]

Not trying to talk bad about Destiny Rising but yeah

[empty kettle]

We are already spread out across different game modes, adding more will spread us to wide

[fresh moat]

https://tenor.com/view/leobylaw-gif-9972060478530653460

[dark gulch]

sir this is a wendys 😭

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-that-freaky-sonic-vexify-stan-twitter-legs-open-gif-893552891762208060

[fresh moat]

Ooooo nte server. I need to learn how to play. Time to join

[dark gulch]

UM YESS????!!!!!

It slays

[fresh moat]

My account so good but idk wtf I’m doing 😵‍💫😂

[neon pebble]

Hows Jariq in Iron Bar?

[dark gulch]

Corndog!!

[peak nova]

Destiny and Skyrim are my favorite games in this life and all others. What each game conveys is incredible. Games also have values and help you become a better person, especially those games with real stories and elements of the universe, of existence itself. That's why Destiny is unique and will always be unique—what the Destiny franchise is, what it means to millions of people like me. And Skyrim, which is another game too! Video games are the best.

[neon pebble]

Im still hours from playing

[fresh moat]

Amazing

[empty kettle]

Penny (Tariq's ghost) just mentioned the deep stone crypt

[hard forge]

Guys how is Tariq?

[neon pebble]

Now i gotta T6 him because his ghost is Penny

[peak nova]

🦎🦎🦎🦎

[surreal berry]

NO!... DO NOT go playing NTE...
Wait for Ananta

[fresh moat]

No way?

[sullen depot]

T6 for dps or T0 for raid race fair play. the tankiest in the game imo

[hard forge]

Who is better, Gwen or Tariq?

[dark gulch]

Gwynn

[fresh moat]

That’s the other gta clone with spiderman movement?

[empty kettle]

Tariq

[sullen depot]

tariq

[fresh moat]

In a battle of dumpsters? Gwynn

[hard forge]

I’m asking because I have 15 pulls left and am trying to decide which to get

[neon pebble]

Careful letting people in your nte server, i hear 🐀 are roamin the streets

[upbeat forge]

Something I notice is that daily the users in this server is continuously decreasing

[fresh moat]

You count?

[empty kettle]

Doesn't mean much tbh

[fresh moat]

Awww

[hard forge]

Also, I’m just going fr t0 right now I’m not going further than that. So who’s better as a t0 just so I can do expanse and raids

[upbeat forge]

Well that’s the chances of the game shutting down

[lean burrow]

don't waste pulls on him, you'll eventually get him with crystals

t0 looks like garbage in expanse if they don't buff his weapons, thing that people has being asking since launch

[hard forge]

Yea when is that event coming out tho

[lean burrow]

mhh no event on the horizon, just wait for the end of the season reward

[sullen depot]

crystals as in condensate

[neon pebble]

Uhh do butterflies fart? About same chance as that

[dark gulch]

yikes

[upbeat forge]

What? Lol

[dark gulch]

i cant count /:

[neon pebble]

Yeah take it with a grain of salt

[dark gulch]

now im curious…do they?

[upbeat forge]

I only notice because there are videos stating it

[neon pebble]

Good games can EoS for no reason and bad games can continue on for years

[fresh moat]

Same in dyslexic

[dark gulch]

this is something that would wake me up randomly at 3am to search up lol

[dark gulch]

pocket legends and AQ3D 😂

[empty kettle]

This is true for certain games but still true

[neon pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/propaganda-senses-spider-man-gif-22504799

[upbeat forge]

Youtubers and streamers claim the game will shut down and the devs gave up on it

[neon pebble]

Look its simple bro. Do you have fun playing?

[upbeat forge]

Yes

[fresh moat]

Damn how do they know

[empty kettle]

They say that about any game

[sullen depot]

If u have fun playing then keep playing. If not then call it wraps. That simple

[neon pebble]

YT and Streamers are View Grabbing with fear tactics. They dont have any inside info and know nothing about EoS

[fresh moat]

Then keep playing & ignore

[upbeat forge]

Their reasoning is called “Trust me bro” lol

[dark gulch]

salted caramel coffee creamer is so bad

[fresh moat]

Idk if you noticed. But ragebaiting is a great way to draw in views and waste peoples time

[fresh moat]

Coffee is bad*

[west violet]

Ngl I see potential in his abilitys but your right the weapons are wet noodles

[twilit thistle]

Good point, likely

[vast arch]

This is the metric everyone should be using to determine if they will continue playing a game

[dark gulch]

coffeee v good

🫪

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[dusty spire]

The hard man play that goes on here is generally insane….

In a digital environment

Dead cut it out

Calm

[dark gulch]

I just want everyone to have a wonderful Friday

May the weekend give good vibes and GREAT weather (please)

[neon pebble]

Idk man
Discord (noun) refers to a lack of agreement, harmony, or trust between people, often resulting in conflict, strife, or dissension

Its literally in the app name

[sullen depot]

Can’t remember the last time I saw the sun. Been raining and gloomy my area

[twilit thistle]

Free likely

[dark gulch]

It’s sunny here but like….not as warm as it usually is around this time of year

[neon pebble]

He was framed at this point

[twilit thistle]

💀

[ashen swift]

Free tsunamy.

[neon pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[crimson crown]

is tarig bugged in Containment somehow??? i am just getting like 1 tapped randomly. only in this cordon

[cursive depot]

first ive heard of that

[indigo thistle]

Is it blast damage? The barrier only stops projectiles...

[crimson crown]

i'm reading people talk about effy spear being bugged or some arc blast modifier, but as a t6 kitted out tariq i get close to 1 tapped randomly

over and over, only this cordon

[cursive depot]

oh yea heard about some modifier when matchmaking

dont think its exclusive to tariq tho

idk how its works tho, I havent matchmade that side

[candid phoenix]

If you’re matchmaking there’s a modifier that causes an arc burst whenever enemies take 5 instances of arc damage

Efrideets using crimson will usually wipe their teammates lol

[surreal berry]

EfriDeet
Not Spear... Her Dodge is Causing her to SPAZZIM out

[raw berry]

hello

[crimson crown]

..... lol

[empty kettle]

Efrideet players can troll their teammates with that modifier

[crimson crown]

where do you even see this modifier? trying to find it

[hard forge]

Yea I noticed that

[oak kettle]

i've had problems with her spear since launch, sometimes it just locks onto a target and then when she throws it it goes 90 degrees off to the side into a random wall

[candid phoenix]

it's this modifier

[digital briar]

just don't

[sage nymph]

there is also that bug when she dodges and shoot right after she starts to get a seizure 😭

[crimson crown]

ok yeah so weird, i don't have any of these modifiers on, matchmaking just changes both of them i guess, that's CRAZY

[candid phoenix]

yeah matchmaking has its own set of mods

the only way to use yours is to premake

[oak kettle]

seen that one from time to time too

[molten pulsar]

jUsT dOn’T

[oak kettle]

but it's not as prevalent as running expanse 70 and efri just yeets both spears into narnia instead of onto the enemies she's locked onto and i die cus i don't get either nourishing heal as a result

[sage nymph]

only way is to not get near ads when u have efri or simply arc character in ur team

[signal spade]

matchmaking presets the modifiers its always been like that

you only get to select if you like cancel queue and manually launch with the ppl you matched with

at least the red ones

[crimson crown]

i had no idea lol, i thought it takes an S tier preset and A tier preset of ppl in your team and lets you pick one, didn't know they were set and unchangeable, good to know

[oak kettle]

if you get 3 people together without matchmaking then you can set it

or if you get 3 from matchmaking, you can reject it if it makes you host

and then launch the fireteam into your own modifier set

[signal spade]

yea i got hard trolled yday

i queued 10 as estela, noob leader rejected and insta queued us for 9

[crimson crown]

this has been driving me nuts, i should have asked earlier lol

[signal spade]

and i had to redo it for the 10

literally the dumbest thing ive seen happen in a while

[frigid iris]

Same thing happened to me yesterday @signal spade

And they switched the map as well from diffusion to containment

[empty kettle]

Going to download d2 on my ps4, wish me luck

[frigid iris]

Why

[empty kettle]

I need my destiny fix

[crimson crown]

why

[frigid iris]

Well if you haven’t been on in a while then the game might have something to do so good luck

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/itch-crackhead-drugs-drugaddict-addict-gif-11128316954240258813

[empty kettle]

Played d2 from the red war all the way to renegades (I did not purchase edge of fate nor renegades)

[frigid iris]

lol then zero to do so have fun

[empty kettle]

I just have to wait as my ps4 slowly but surely downloads d2 and its content pack over the course of a week

[surreal berry]

Watch a GUIDE on the PRAXIS exotic weapon... If u got the exspansion or not completed it?...

[empty kettle]

I don't have renegades

[surreal berry]

Well... Then it's going to be spoilers if u do.
(if u do wanting renegades.

[empty kettle]

I already seen the cutscenes

I can't be bothered to purchase any dlc unless they have a new subclass

[frigid iris]

Probably done buying dlc then. Don’t see that coming anytime soon. F2P content imo isn’t good.

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/fika-jetpack-cat-jetpackcat-ana-overwatch-gif-6005875610633106212

#off-topic
HONESLY... I MIGHT JUST SKIP Destiny Rising... MOVE onto Digimon UP Mobile Game...

[signal spade]

im gonna go pro in candy crush

[fresh moat]

Cookie run toa *

[cursive depot]

isnt the pro bracket for that game like 80+ age limit requirement

[signal spade]

probably because if you started playing candy crush like 20 years ago and never stopped

youre probably on level like 2 million

[worn musk]

GTA 6 before eos?

[fresh moat]

Lmao moms

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-shitpost-funny-memes-funny-memes-gif-13736751947890215191

[thorny frost]

Aaaa the face book game era with FarmVille also XD

[signal phoenix]

Roblox btw

[oblique geyser]

well, its an upgrade but still miss 15 arba ammo to finish those minotaur lel

Take around 50 arrow to destroy one shield🤣

[neat valley]

The best era

[golden spade]

Bro! Are u the goat hh leading the precision expanse! Gg bro

[oblique geyser]

no idea about NA rn but i just want to get it done and from my perspective i need around 17 ammo for shinka and 15 per minotaur lol

[naive ingot]

Downloading on PS4 is painful now...

[sharp talon]

what upgrade? adept mod?

[oblique geyser]

y 8% more dps xd

and min max first two room for max ammo

24 arba ammo at start of the room

[fiery marsh]

Is HH still the play in precision or effrideet with the exotic hand cannon

?

For expanse

[sharp talon]

hh destroying efrideet in expanse

[cursive depot]

for expanse, arbalest is just too strong

[crisp shuttle]

Bug or easter egg?

[fiery marsh]

Oh snap

[oblique geyser]

at 110 with void Efrideet is useless rn

i even upgraded a full borealis ahah

[fiery marsh]

So no helhests are running queen breaker no more eh? XD

[crisp shuttle]

After doing this you can explore the entire ship with zero out of bounds areas

[oblique geyser]

the dps requirement is too high to waste ammo on RC, we need shield elemental explosion and arba rock at this

the ligth level is around 123k so you need to do x2 x3 dmg compare to 114/116 in lower expanse level

[fiery marsh]

Yee I guess and the 25% dmg buff after shield popping? Does the arby tech still work to blow up everything like in calamity ops?

[oblique geyser]

with piercing shinka around ?

[twilit thistle]

Think it’s patched

[fiery marsh]

Yee

I remember some helhest mains clearing nexus first room in like 5 seconds upon going in

And hallway in fulminator

[oblique geyser]

not as good as it was sadly.. and in this map you cant benefit from this cause you need to kill shinka then the two minotaur spawn far from each other

in the pit before, you could annihilate elite shank with the 2 shinka in 2nd room

[fiery marsh]

I miss calamity ops man.. xD I was a run bot

[oblique geyser]

was nice but unstuck killed the hype for many

[fiery marsh]

Ppl are getting bored of cordons too cause everything there are meat shields in later stages

[sharp talon]

whats na highest stage rn?

[fiery marsh]

Can't check atm. Im at work xD

[cursive depot]

30

right now

[fiery marsh]

Fall from grace hasn't been sleeping

[sharp talon]

what comp?

[fiery marsh]

That guy just breaths cordons for some reason >.>

[cursive depot]

hh, ikora, jaren

[vast arch]

Gotta love the enemy bullet tracking in this game 😭

[sharp talon]

merge the leaderboards atp

[fiery marsh]

Ill make it up there with jolder. Im sure I can make it work

Maybe to at least 20

[vast arch]

not to mention getting one shot when over power with matching defensive artifacts 💀

[sharp talon]

he clipped u

[vast arch]

wdym the bullet goes under my feet

[sharp talon]

i mean he made a clip 🤣

[vast arch]

lmao

[fiery marsh]

Im also waiting for rapidfire to come out when estela draws are back

[sharp talon]

i think the tracer round is client sided so it wont be 100% accurate

[fiery marsh]

Gonna flex my radiation estela xD

Cause doesnt matter if im losing health if u will get one shot anyways

So troll

[indigo solar]

This is a common issue I've seen, I've already reported it but it doesn't look like it'll get fixed any time soon. It's just way too costly to fix skill issues for not a lot of return

[fiery marsh]

The damage output with radiation on estela is cakes man

[golden spade]

Bro! I learned that tech on my T6 hh.

Pulling it off was so satisfying

[vast arch]

Could also be latency but my fiber internet is pretty solid

[fiery marsh]

Do you think this radiation estela gonna be on the top of being a cursed build?

[oblique geyser]

So good when you are fighting a single enemy that dont move.. which is very niche tbh 😅

[fiery marsh]

Thats just for boss phase xD

[oblique geyser]

well shinka dead, one minotaur can die but enrage kill me on 2nd minotaur 66% hp lel

[fiery marsh]

But when I ran this build with furies III, I was clearing rooms much faster

[oblique geyser]

yep too situational, she kiinda snck in expanse also

Mid range = ?

[vast arch]

40 million is crazy

[fiery marsh]

I got through stage 60 at least with radiation estela

When I went summons, I didn't do enough dmg

But your right stiglitz.. she sucks in expanse xD

[fiery marsh]

43 mil in 20 seconds. With safeguarding blazaar and responsive pact, i hit around 41 mil

[fiery marsh]

The extra weapon dmg bonus made a huge difference in expanse 60 cause of arc elites

But 61 and onward, ill probably get 1 shot from a red bar psion or smthn

[digital briar]

:(

[oblique geyser]

79 rapid fire was what made me quit estella on expanse tbh

and considering how easy it was on other char

[digital briar]

is there a build guide for jaren

[fiery marsh]

effrideet woulda made all the arc ones easier but I wanted to use estela xD

[sharp talon]

jaren is good at the solar rapid fire stages 🤣

[fiery marsh]

I used jolder for the rapidfire solar

Its fun too xD

Finally got my adept night after night... 74 mag size is no joke and it melts rapidfire shinka shields

[sharp talon]

i guess jolder does way more damage than ning right?

[fiery marsh]

My partridge sky is hitting 2.2 mil in a burst and scales up to 4.8 mil based off missing health

[sharp talon]

how much does ning do?

do u have him built up 😂

[fiery marsh]

He can barely scratch 20 mil dmg in 20 seconds with maha

About 25 mil actually

[oblique geyser]

They could easily fix estella by making her summons multi hit instead of single target tbh.. imagine summon and ult that can split their laser on multi target.. crazy char it would be

[fiery marsh]

That would be broken cause c1 heals her off of summon dmg

She would get infinite overshield with ring of conversion which is gonna be impossible to break

[oblique geyser]

well you balance that

[fiery marsh]

Yee true.. she build her overshield really fast already

[oblique geyser]

but its a waste of a char with good abilities tbh

[fiery marsh]

8100 over shield tankstela

[astral bear]

How much dmg do you deal with the Usual set

[fiery marsh]

Just showed it here

The video above is my normal build

[astral bear]

What about Both pact artifacts

[fiery marsh]

Safeguarding is better than bellicose pact cause ur losing only 1% summon damage for 30% more overshield

Safeguarding blazar*

But late game cordons, doesnt matter if u got 8100 over shield, you'll still get 1 shot

[polar summit]

She sucks everywhere

Except 2nd encounter raid

Which can be done without her

[signal phoenix]

Over shield is trash btw

[twilit thistle]

💀

[cinder cliff]

FQGQysfS

[fiery marsh]

Better than having no overshield though xD

[signal phoenix]

5 sec uptime same as nothing 😂

[fiery marsh]

Pretty sure the video i posted had the overshield on the entire time

The timer resets everytime you gain more overshield

So that 8100 overshield isnt disappearing as long as I spam summons and as long as I heal off of summon damage

[empty kettle]

Yep, it took me a week of downloading each pack

[fiery marsh]

Count how long the over shield lasts here

[empty kettle]

Now I have to do that again

[twilit thistle]

🤔 what? Where did my other nucleus go

[indigo solar]

Well also bc at least from some testing someone did at the start of s4, blazar was also just straight-up dealing more summon damage

[fiery marsh]

What's funnier right now, radiation is doing more damage than her summons artifacts 😆

[indigo solar]

You should run warding instead of nourishing for slot 1, you already have plenty of healing

[twilit thistle]

Ok so apparently if you are like 1s from translating the nucleus and u pick up another, u lose the first

[cursive depot]

In practice when pushing in expanse with her, overshield was hard to maintain - resulting in less consistence.

[fiery marsh]

Its probably better running double resistance artifacts than anything healing on her x.x

[indigo solar]

Thought they changed it so you can't pick up multiple nuclei simultaneously anymore

[twilit thistle]

😭

[fiery marsh]

So you get 2 shot instead of 1 shot xD

[sage nymph]

Ye that's why i usually wait for the 1st one to be translated

[cursive depot]

its not the living part, its the fact that safeguard with no overshield is just less dmg

overshield being one shot = summons losing that 45% instantly

[sage nymph]

But in higher content u're getting melted anyway ? Why run this build if it's so situational

[cursive depot]

vs just doing more dmg for being up

[limber furnace]

So is the new character good or nah?🪿 I already got it but I haven't test his max potential

I don't plan to make it t6

[plucky geode]

def not a must have, however he can actually become invincible with chiascurro + bulwark pact. Dmg is low even at t6 but best character for survival by far to date

t2 is best early stopping point

want barrier on both too

[west violet]

@indigo solar do you have recommendations for Tariq Artis? Currently I run this setup with a T0 and it feels great. Did spread expanse 61-70 without any pain so curious about your thoughts

[plucky geode]

i like bulwark in 2, as long as you hit 3 enemeies with daggers, 100% upkeep of barrier and 100% invincible even in 70s of expanse

[signal spade]

i cleared 90 today with idk why you wouldnt run blinding tbh unless you really hate weapon damage but i guess idk the % of his abilities to his guns in pure single target

[west violet]

I keep this in mind and will try . Much appreciated your input mate 🤝

[plucky geode]

agree

[signal spade]

im farming the summon heal artifact for slot 1 rn just in case its useful anywhere

just perma regen on your barrier thats already unkillable

[west violet]

Tariq ability based, no? Doesn’t feel focusing on weapons. Or I’m totally wrong?

[signal spade]

sidearm kinda cranks tbh

but most of his damage is the tornado popping

[fiery marsh]

Is the god roll nourishing pact defense, elemental, shield and healing?

[signal spade]

for who

not nourishing the other one

[fiery marsh]

Ooh that one

You mind as well go healing radiation

[signal spade]

ele def barrier recov is what im doin

[fiery marsh]

Or whats the % on that at tier 5?

[signal spade]

your hps never gettin touched tbh

[fiery marsh]

Yeah true

[west violet]

His ability’s doing insane damage. Ngl it feels crazy good

[signal spade]

i like the melee resolute one rn cause i think the only thing that kinda messes him up is getting meleed or exploded on by cursed thrall

but i could facetank the shank in 90 expanse without the shield regen

idk how much beefier itll ever need to be tbh

[fiery marsh]

Does he have a home in cordons right now?

[signal spade]

other weird thing with him is i think recovery is kinda goated because the only thing that seems to not care about the barrier is the inside of the shinka bubble and that affix thats in the bottom diffusion rn

and you can just get procs to heal through them anyway when recov doesnt get interrupted

[fiery marsh]

So recovery boost is the play on him since his health/shield doesnt get touched?

[signal spade]

yea

[fiery marsh]

Kinda like kabr then

[signal spade]

yea hes pretty much immune if you hit your buttons right

[fiery marsh]

Basically a maru barrier but he can still shoot and use other abilities xD

[north berry]

Good info above! So the shield is considered a summons?

[fiery marsh]

His boomerangs and barrier are summons

[signal spade]

i wonder if he breaks maru actually i never checked

because maru wont gain energy if she doesnt take damage so i wonder if his barrier makes hers not work if you give it to her

[fiery marsh]

Dunno barely anyone touches maru ever since ikora came in the scene xD

[signal spade]

i think her barriers further away from her character which is why she gets barrel stuffed

[north berry]

Thank you!

[signal spade]

so prob wouldnt matter

[fiery marsh]

I wonder... if his boomerangs are summons... does it do increased summon damage?

I gotta test that out xD

Like running bellicose pact and responsive pact

[signal spade]

he dont care

[indigo solar]

Boomerangs aren't summons

The barrier is

[fiery marsh]

Oh mb

[indigo solar]

Also AoE damage like boomers

[signal spade]

aoes weird because its not consistent

like standing on fire will hurt you cause the source is under your feet

but a stomp from an ogre wont touch you if the center of the stomps outside your bubble

[fiery marsh]

Is this impact or spread?

[signal spade]

rapid fire

i just restarted cause my estela wasnt clearing 90 without full reset

[twilit thistle]

@river vigil

[fiery marsh]

Did you clear the arc ones with estela or just the solar ones?

[river vigil]

umeko's leg?

[signal spade]

i think i did to 70 with estela then 80 with efrideet then got to 89 with estela

if i had furies 90 was prob doable tbh

[golden spade]

Wow, stage 83. Impressive. Can u share ure build?

I have him at T0. And I don't want to build his BP exotic side arm

Think I can do well with Wolf's exotic gl and mythic arc side arm?

[river vigil]

why does it take me 10 years to get the gifts I want in chaos

[dusty spire]

Tariq is 🔥

Absolutely fun to play

[river vigil]

until 3 ikora bots shoot at you in shifting gates

[dusty spire]

lol

[river vigil]

where are those bots when I queue any other mode

[dusty spire]

lol

[rose wasp]

When destiny rising shutting down

[dusty spire]

Stop lol

[rose wasp]

Cause this banner is lazy

[sullen depot]

go knock on netease door to find out

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/wealth-gif-24406365

netease rn

[signal spade]

I kinda just ran over rapid fire 90 with him

[true basin]

It’s not. Bungie might though.

[empty kettle]

What is up with discord?

[dusty spire]

It’s gone funny

[drowsy cypress]

i guess after s5. And we never leave earth in this destiny game🤣

maybe s5 will introduce levi patrol zone, some ecounters from levi (maybe with bugs, if thay can release it ofc, maybe devs dont finish it), and some reruns (hh, jaren, estela). Than eos

seems like tariq is last one new hero

[oblique geyser]

Tried 90+?
I winder how he ll perform on 93 which is a room that require a lot of dps single and cleave

[true basin]

Feels like there’s a delay right?

[drowsy cypress]

If we dont see new roadmap - im 90% sure it is be something like this

[oblique geyser]

We approach first anniversary also.. still time to believe

[drowsy cypress]

sad but zero feedback from devs. Just zero. Even in wеchat, taрtaр, reddit, disc

[signal spade]

93 seemed cursed

[true basin]

We will see something soon

[cursive depot]

no need to be pessemistic

[ashen swift]

it is.

[signal spade]

i think 83 impact is doable with him but

its super tight

[cursive depot]

just enjoy the game while its here

[drowsy cypress]

we just wanna see something, just something like "hey, we there, we still working on project"

[signal spade]

its been years since the last update

[true basin]

https://x.com/remarks/status/2052840900758258138?s=46

Remarks (@remarks)

JUST IN: Discord is down worldwide.

X · May 8, 2026, 7:59 PM

[signal spade]

tariq spawned out of nowhere

[oblique geyser]

Its been months people are shtting on the game saying EOS coming.. just play the game if it comes it comes but rn its not planned

[cursive depot]

its either going to happen or not

[oblique geyser]

On ikora its already tight so i guess its the tariq wall

[cursive depot]

you making yourself hold out for communication and making you feel like the game will end helps no one

[oblique geyser]

Have you seen reddit ? Its crazy how people are complaining 24/7 🤣
Im glad its not exactly the same here

[signal spade]

which is the wall 83 impact?

[cursive depot]

bruh people want to whine about EOS like its already been announced, same people that quit destiny a few years in and called it dead

[signal spade]

i can easily 2 phase the shinka but its annoying because the gladiator sometimes just runs in circles to narnia

if i get a god run its clearable but i also am missing lik 1k power and a few mods id wanna farm

no 3rd cata or t5 on the sidearm

93 rf is just annoying because brigands are stupid

[fiery marsh]

73 is cursed for jolder mains in impact atm

[signal spade]

if you could clump the brigands on top of eachother itd be easy but they tp back up

[sharp talon]

93 rapid dps check is insane though

[fiery marsh]

Burkey turkey gave up and went jaren to get past 73 xD

[signal spade]

73 impact?

[sharp talon]

even with new emanare?

[fiery marsh]

Im still gonna keep going to beat that stage

[sharp talon]

can jolder stop the ogre healing?

[signal spade]

anyone can you just gotta stagger at the right time

its kinda rng on some characters though more than others

[hard forge]

There really should be a better way to get these occultation essence for starring ur artifacts

[cursive depot]

I mean, there has been alot of them in the seasonal shop and your better off just grinding them

[river vigil]

I swear manifesto would be goated on Tariq if it had a 650 or 750 fire rate

I like the guns but the mesicku with til the end+fire rate on the magazine mod feels better to shoot

[signal spade]

if gls did damage this would be easier

[rotund flame]

Man trying to beat the other expanse with your side characters is rough. I'm under leveled on all of them because i can only afford to max out 2 artifacts 😭

[river vigil]

for me killing the first ogre was fine, it was when the impact spawned that I got mogged

[rotund flame]

On Pierce I'm on 70. The rest are stuck at 49 lol

[stiff wadi]

cosmetic power weapon.

it actually just looks like the sidearms are just doing more lol

[signal spade]

well i have on the 40% mod for the sidearm but its hard to tell during the burst

but yea gl is cosmetic

[river vigil]

I feel like they actually might do more damage

[signal spade]

i think they do i just use the gl to autoreload the sidearm

[stiff wadi]

honestly yeah just energy conversion mod on your GL just like with efri

like ig it's technically good that your best dmg option is infinite but at the same time it's just so sad how bad GLs are

[signal spade]

yea i mean i feel like heavy gls got scammed this patch cause cury mury perks on a heavy gl would go kinda hard

best perk being splash feast is actually a crime

[river vigil]

barb+groundbreaking would go crazy on a hgl

[signal spade]

but i cleared 90 rapid fire on him like doing nothing special so his damage for expanse isnt too bad since his abilities are everywhere for expanse buffs

and 90 spread was free too

[summer ledge]

What seems to be the general consensus on better exotic for the new character?

[signal spade]

i think hes pretty much useless without the bp sidearm

concerto might as well be a blue drop with how bad it is

[river vigil]

I think the bp sidearm is probably his best choice but for the moment mesicku is the best option if you only care about passive uptime

[signal spade]

gwynn should be a defense character

or a support character if tariq is a defense character

gwynn does less damage than him and jolder by a fat margin

[river vigil]

Does she do less single target damage than him?

[signal spade]

definitely

his tornadoes nuke and dont need you to ramp them with your weapons that instantly run out of ammo

he also doesnt waste an ability on a slow blink that does no damage

the fact gwynns ult swings dont generate orbs is also just awful

[river vigil]

tbf both of those are symptoms of gwynn being the first limited character

everyone knew she would be powercrept, I'm pretty sure fyrous was screaming it from the rooftops

[signal spade]

Ya but she just got reran and all they did was overtune her ascend

Like her kit just feels bad at every turn

Estela is still super good in her lane Gwynn just has no lane

[river vigil]

Its less of it being overtuned and more of you losing 1 damage mod because they want you to run the reload when hit mod on her shotguns

[dusty spire]

Yes anything with knock back

Most tanks have disruptive capabilities

[signal spade]

Yea its just sad cause concerto is so weak and her kit kinda relies on it

The shotguns not rly allowed to be cosmetic on her

[dusty spire]

The disparity between freemium and premium is silly

And also concerto was sold like a premium item on launch

[river vigil]

gwynn's lane is still single target damage its just she's too old to keep up with the newer units. Also you say shotguns but with gwynn its just an orb printer

[dusty spire]

If I remember it was part of a journey bundle

[river vigil]

I was one of the people that whaled for concerto

[dusty spire]

But Gwynn is a solid void version of Tariq

They both have the same sort of mechanic

Gwynn more so should be brawling just as much imo

Tariq is an offensive brawler hero imo with def utility

[river vigil]

Tariq is an overwatch off tank

[dusty spire]

Thing is I’d say more brawler as he moves more but don’t have the aggro capabilities like the true tanks

They have the class set up and the idea but I just think it’s not executing the way they vision

[river vigil]

I would disagree with that, I would say that he does have the aggro capabilities of a main tank but his damage is locked behind having enemies clumped

[dusty spire]

Like jolder and finnala create aggro but how much of that actually works in reality for what it is for.

He don’t have aggro

It’s not in his kit unfortunately

If finnala or jolder use skill 1 it will pull the enemies into aggro mode

Red orbs above head

[signal spade]

Doesn't matter who has aggro when everyone's immune

[river vigil]

oh you mean taunting

[dusty spire]

Once orbs disappear first person to tag enemie will pull aggro or the main dps will pull

[river vigil]

he trades ability taunts for grouping

[dusty spire]

Yeah sorry for the miss capture

Well yeah he’s a contains right

And that’s what I like in terms of the idea mechanic for a defender

Just how much of it can truly be appreciated in concept if you get what I mean

But just as a final, I think Tariq as a newly appointed member is an absolute add to my hero pool

And I think anyone else that acquires him imo

[obtuse chasm]

He’s valuable to new players simply based on the lack of characters, but most people that have been playing don’t need Tariq seeing as he’s outclassed by someone else in almost every aspect he’s just a decent jack of all trades

He’s not the best in anything he does but he’s decent and does a lot

[signal spade]

He has a niche he'll be goated for the adept raids

You'll feel the difference immediately tbh

[obtuse chasm]

Why would the adept raids be his niche?

[signal spade]

Your whole team goes immune makes everything easier

[obtuse chasm]

That’s valid

[signal spade]

You can just eat the boss slams and dragon beam

[sullen depot]

Assuming adept raids are actually difficult tho. Currently adept strikes/blitz are a walk in the park

I see him more for a world first/fair play scenario

[river vigil]

I'll sacrifice my damage if it keeps the random helhest alive

[obtuse chasm]

I agree, I’m hoping prestige raids are actually difficult, maybe not contest level difficulty but at least a challenge compared to what we have now

[signal spade]

His uptime at t0 isn't great and his damage is abysmal you'd only run him on encounters where like damage isn't a thought

[obtuse chasm]

Sad fact is that unless the new content shifts, damage is always the main thought

But he may be decent for adept raids if they’re actually challenging, I don’t see him being valuable in fair play tho tbh

[sullen depot]

Imo if alll adept raids give that is different from normal onslaught is the 2% chance of adept mods then I sleep. They need to better scale general rewards in this game based on difficulty

[signal spade]

Kinda you could two phase the dragon in contest with like a dead player the whole time

[obtuse chasm]

I mean in reality you can use anyone for anything, but I don’t see him being the reason for teams placing high on leaderboards and if anything may be the cause of a few peoples downfalls

[signal spade]

He's useless for speed cause you can always just be better

[river vigil]

I dont see hime as a reason a team gets higher but I do see him being a factor on why more teams clear

[signal spade]

But he's good for oops my helhest keeps getting one shot

Or oops I stood in that slam

[river vigil]

Random queue cordon

[signal spade]

Ya

[sullen depot]

He is more for encounters that require u to hold a plate or just survive something. Like crota first and second encounter. New raids first encounter. Bridge crossing encounter for first raid. Stuff like that

[twilit thistle]

😭 i mean he could always pop shinkas and clear ads for a duo 11+ farm

I wouldnt mind

[sullen depot]

Holy damn 1hr

[signal spade]

If we had a heavy gl that did literally any damage he'd feel a lot better

[twilit thistle]

30+ mins of that was the boss. Turns out hes a pain on 2nd phase

[cursive depot]

yea didnt know he kept spawning those centurions til my run last night

[twilit thistle]

I just hid and waited for my abilites to recharge

[cursive depot]

same

lucky he is a good boss for ikora

[ashen swift]

netease is evil.

WHY IS IT ARC.

WHO is using the white tiger in stage 100 😭

[river vigil]

We know who

You can try mesicku and satiyaaliksni

[ashen swift]

I don’t possess impact characters.

[river vigil]

Hes just a swipe away

[ashen swift]

t0 jaren t0 gwynn no tariq :P

I just be brute forcing on ikora.

[ashen swift]

i have leaves saved up but i plan on snagging helhest.

can't be doin all that for tariq.

[river vigil]

I need to hurry up and fix my bulwark pact artifact so I can go back to expanse

[red geyser]

That would be me

Soon when I reach stage 100

[signal spade]

Yes dude

[ashen swift]

💪

[naive ingot]

@red geyser is

[neon pebble]

It is time for Iron Bar

Queue up buttercups 👀

All Maru

[dusty spire]

He’s simply great in little words

Great playstyle and something different

Again we got plenty room to build and do more atp early days too for his really great barrier lol 😁

Great drop netease

[elder wing]

Yes well done. Meta

[neon pebble]

This helmet is lit

[twilit thistle]

🤔 I think its procing electrophoresis

[river vigil]

If it can proc electrify it will, or if something you did electrified the target shield shockwave killing it will still proc it

[dusk kernel]

this game still alive?

[obtuse chasm]

Nah we just post leaks that never got released and chat here because we’re all lonely

[signal spade]

true

[rotund flame]

Looks like i have to lv up the new enamer system to get my un built characters strong enough to do expanse 50. 2 max exotic artifacts aren't enough.(Too poor to get 4 lol)

[dry hare]

😭

[candid phoenix]

Where da beekeeper

[river vigil]

I will never understand your luck with comboing gifts

[bold fog]

Are there tariq outfits?
We're still missing for efrideet

[vocal hawk]

Nope

[signal spade]

any 11 farmers

[twilit thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/sliding-blue-tarp-gif-18210746

[neon pebble]

Right here

Manifesto base stats are OP, its pretty good on Gwynn ngl

Its like double the base dmg of the other sidearms which boost her weapon mastery alot

[river vigil]

is tariq allowed?

[obtuse chasm]

Indubitably

[twilit thistle]

gimme a min, ig the countdown

[signal spade]

np hes swappin chars/artifacts anyway

[signal spade]

lmao

[river vigil]

the heroic strike goat

[dusty spire]

Man he keeps doing more lol

Mines ain’t nice though

Any one tried his ability damage set up?

The Gwynn one ?

[dusty spire]

Soon loool

[neon pebble]

Manifesto reaload kills feel so good in pvp

Slide cancel procs detonation faster btw

[dusty spire]

T4 Freekora still going!

2 to go!

[crude basalt]

I'm married sorry everyone

[neon pebble]

We dodged a bullet chat

[crude basalt]

I been married almost two years

[neon pebble]

We deffo dodged a bullet

[crude basalt]

And this is her husband talking I find out everything she been doing

[neon pebble]

Yall are cray weird

This is game discord not tinder

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[neon pebble]

We dont do that here

[visual rain]

what is happening

[neon pebble]

You dont have to be lonely at destinyrisingonly . Com

[robust sequoia]

I had her t1 after her draw event and she went to normal pool. I had 90 blue boats saved, and got her t4 off those—then had 720 crystals to buy the last two. 🤐

Good luck! T6 is very nice. I just face tanked spread 70 and numbers just fly…

[rotund flame]

I also have her at t4. Was thinking of buying 2 copies from the store. Going to wait and see if i get lucky and get her from standard first

[river vigil]

ngl wolfpack still sucks

even when adept

[simple wigeon]

Are the new battle pass weapon good on Gwynn?

[river vigil]

its worse than concerto at generating void souls

[simple wigeon]

Dang is it really!?

[glad anvil]

Bro why is Zev and Shira so flirty 😮‍💨

[twilit thistle]

👀

[river vigil]

...

[bitter estuary]

is this with randoms

[river vigil]

yep

[bitter estuary]

i swear you can use wolf and you can just outdamage them idk

[river vigil]

thats a t6 efrideet I outdamaged :T

[twilit thistle]

be back later if u need @signal spade

[signal spade]

rgr ggs

[twilit thistle]

hungry but will be bout an hour

[limber pine]

Then why did u send me all those pics? 👀

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/boooooo-this-guy-stinks-serious-spongebob-squarepants-gif-11981386

bots higher than most of the players

[limber pine]

But how much did it cost 🤔

I haven't even pulled him yet

[candid phoenix]

i used my essence to get him

[river vigil]

it was only 280 pulls

[visual rain]

bots are always your power minus the character intrinsic power

so if ur on a 5* theyll be 4k below you and 4* theyre 3500 below you

[river vigil]

and thats still higher than most of the people I matchmake into

[visual rain]

i mean yeah ur playing legacy

[river vigil]

I mean in all modes but cordon

and even cordon theres a chance they're not 108k

[stark forge]

crazy 78k is needed to play legacy

we used to flex 76k power in s3

[limber pine]

How broken is Tariq in Iron Bar? Does he just never die because of his shield lol

[river vigil]

his barrier health is reduced in pvp activities

[neon pebble]

Not so broken, manifesto hits hard af though

Can kill someone with 10ish shots or a handful of shots and a reload

Like 6/7

I 5star it already. Got 1 more cataband at end of BP to unlock and like all the catalysis boosts but its alrdy so good

Chushingura with full faciliated agreement maxed still didnt do as much my half crap manifesto

And I had void substats on

[obtuse chasm]

I’ve never seen that efri in my life 😭 bro must just not be very good

[neon pebble]

Void launcher is crazy eork

Solar is beast

[obtuse chasm]

That being said why tf is he running efri on diffusion rn 😭

That’s why lol

[river vigil]

I mean I can make her work

and I'd probably have the highest damage in the random run

[obtuse chasm]

Randoms are garbo tho

But I’m enjoying Tariq to an extent, would I run him in end game content tho? Probably not

[dusty spire]

LOL

Loving this

[river vigil]

as a person who primarily random queues everything thats the majority of my experience

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-do-it-tom-ellis-lucifer-morningstar-lucifer-volunteer-gif-17399541

[obtuse chasm]

Never said he wouldn’t be fun, just not meta

[dusty spire]

Ok back to mines this is a burn out :/

[dusty spire]

I’m done with listening to your feedback

Not being rude but yeah I’ve seen enough

[obtuse chasm]

He’ll be good for his rotation, but outside of that I don’t see any reason I’d ever touch him, when Jaren and ikora exist

[obtuse chasm]

I was right tho?

[river vigil]

tbf in the current way the game is played, he wont be meta

[dusty spire]

In your world probably always

[obtuse chasm]

If you genuinely think Tariq is a meta pick you’re wrong

[obtuse chasm]

A defense character will not survive in the current meta it’s not based on opinion or playstyle, it’s just facts

[dusty spire]

Again I’m no way interested

Really not

[narrow trail]

Gen isn’t wrong, Tariq is fun, has cool abilities but he’s not S tier I think that’s all he’s trying to say

[dusty spire]

Most of what you say is quite inaccurate tbf

[obtuse chasm]

What have I said that’s inaccurate?

[dusty spire]

But I get it

[obtuse chasm]

Everything I’ve said is true

You just don’t want to hear it

[dusty spire]

But here what I’m not interested

RT lol sorry

[obtuse chasm]

As I said he’s fun, he’s new, but he’ll be outclassed in every aspect and isn’t going to be meta

[dusty spire]

Again

Have fun lol don’t take it personal

[obtuse chasm]

Tbf you can’t claim what I’m saying is inaccurate then say “don’t take it personal”

And never state what I said that was inaccurate

[dusty spire]

Ok

[obtuse chasm]

If I’m wrong I’ll admit to it, but I don’t see what I’ve said that has been inaccurate or disproven

[dusty spire]

Ok 👍🏾

[obtuse chasm]

These casuals bruh 🤦‍♂️

[dusty spire]

Please it’s gatcha

[obtuse chasm]

Metas exist everywhere

[dusty spire]

I don’t aim for that on this

[obtuse chasm]

That’s fine, doesn’t mean they don’t exist

[dusty spire]

😫
Not me please I had to deal with c ops gen 1 and having to deal with this

I know about a meta but I don’t think you get my point.

[timber citrus]

just enjoy your character and dont worry about such discussions of things like rankings, power, meta etc. Who cares what heights others are soaring to as long as you're having fun

[dusty spire]

It’s a gacha game I’m trying to collect things on MY account

[obtuse chasm]

That was never the point bruh 😭 ultimately you’re right play who you want, but that was never how the conversation started, I didn’t tell anyone not to play Tariq

[dusty spire]

Lord please don’t over do the want to be the best thing

[obtuse chasm]

I never told you not to play Tariq that’s your decision, I never tried to convince you otherwise, I simply stated he wouldn’t be meta

[timber citrus]

lol gen efrideet i wasnt directing that at you. I agree with you

[dusty spire]

I stretch my characters as far as they can go that I enjoy

I don’t watch what people want

I find efri boring

Why am I spending my resources or money chasing something I don’t want ?

Yall got some weird flex sometimes

[bitter estuary]

i think this game has a unique issue with team comps because atleast other gachas made it punishing to run full offensive in co-op endgame content but i think survivability here is thrown away from the window since everything is a bullet sponge, and its timed content too

i think for solo content eh i think since you only run 1 character, obviously the offensive/support offensive characters would do miles better in endgame then their defensive counterparts

[dusty spire]

Like people can’t enjoy things outside of what you want

[bitter estuary]

you can, just not in expanse/cordon ops

which is really 90% of the game

[dusty spire]

Yes and these are things that developed can change at any time

[obtuse chasm]

When have I stated that people can’t play Tariq tho? I simply stated he’s not meta, which is a fact

[bitter estuary]

until crota and bulwark gets unvaulted

[dusty spire]

Until we get more types of content

[obtuse chasm]

I think he’ll have his time to shine in FairPlay activities or like you said bulwark and crota

[obtuse chasm]

Unless they remove timers and it’s a battle of endurance he will never be meta

[bitter estuary]

you can still enjoy them and you CAN make him fit into the meta, but he wont meet the damage threshold required to clear endgame content

[obtuse chasm]

That’s the sad truth of the matter

I would love harder content that you don’t have to speedrun

But it’s just not what the current content is about

[dusty spire]

Lord I’ll just play and witness myself

[bitter estuary]

i think tariq shares the same issues with ikora the hidden, except ikora does do more damage while her kit being pure crowd control

[dusty spire]

To much hypotheticals

[bitter estuary]

i think he will be really good in this month's morgrans hunt (if it does happen) but otherwise... i don't know

[obtuse chasm]

Not really any hypotheticals, he won’t be good unless they remove timers that’s all that he would need to be good

And personally I’m all for it and would like a shift in the meta

That way we would actually see more def/supp/offense teams instead of straight up damage all the time with a HH

[dusty spire]

Again he just come out I’m not talking much until I get to that point

[narrow trail]

Would be a nice change for sure

[bitter estuary]

if the game revolved around ad clear to add time, i think tariq would do much better in endgame content

tariq, estela, ikora, etc. would've been the meta

while helhest is just purely support

[dusty spire]

Ok back to mines

[obtuse chasm]

This is where I think a endurance type event should be introduced letting these kinds of characters shine

[dusty spire]

Kinda just want to play yall to deep

[bitter estuary]

the issue is that they'd have to make the volume of ads beyond the current amount of ads there are per stage, so it'd make the game really unplayable due to the amount of ads on the screen

[bitter estuary]

true

something like warframe, with the amount of ads being thrown at you, except it actually incentivizes you to clear all ads so you complete said stage

[obtuse chasm]

Play who you want, no one’s stopping you, again the metas exist for a reason, it doesn’t mean you HAVE to play something but some people don’t find enjoyment in just playing characters because they look cool, some people enjoy pushing leaderboards, some people like seeing big damage numbers, etc. so by ignoring that the meta exists simply because you don’t like to play it imo it’s super hypocritical

[dusty spire]

Again no one’s ignoring a meta

[dry hare]

anyone know gwynn 4th art ?

[dusty spire]

Play the game I’m not the one

I’m trying to keep it cool

[bitter estuary]

im so sorry but even where winds meet has some sort of endgame that would make you preferbly switch to the meta weapon of that said season

[dusty spire]

Really

[last matrix]

hey has there been any news today about a port to pc?

[obtuse chasm]

Valiant veil or that other one I forgot the name

[obtuse chasm]

Nah

[bitter estuary]

literally every single damn mmo with a solo endgame that is purely a damage check is normal

[dusty spire]

I know what a meta is or y’all missing the point?

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-stan-twitter-woman-sitting-gif-24452683

[last matrix]

damn maybe tomorrow then

[obtuse chasm]

No I think your missing ours fam

[elder wing]

Well end of the day you pull for char then he is aight but then you tryna make yo self feel better… happens

[dusty spire]

No

[narrow trail]

The point is, I need another drink after reading this lol

[last matrix]

taking their time making a port to pc

[dusty spire]

It’s was about pulling

Your talking pulling for meta

[bitter estuary]

meta is A LITERAL ACRONYM REAL

holy crap are you new? "“most effective tactics available"????

[dusty spire]

I’ve explained several times

[bitter estuary]

please

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah and I wouldn’t tell a new player to pull Tariq because he looks cool

[dusty spire]

Some of us are selective gatcha collectors

[obtuse chasm]

I would tell them to pull based on the meta

[last matrix]

the arguing is making me uncomfortable

[dusty spire]

Some chase meta

Stop competing with meta talk with me

[bitter estuary]

ok here, there's META for characters and META for loadout , that's the main issue this damn game has

[elder wing]

That fair bro. But you gaslight a mid char…

[dusty spire]

You don’t see me posting that I play off meta?

No I enjoy a character you consider mid