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But I beat it which was fun
True but sad
but they defo buffed estella, even tho she still get outclass by the newer chars
Alot of characters need a buff
what did they buff?
abilities while shooting, her arti
That too
the one that starts off with a sniper on the first enemy spawn platform?
throwing the buff while shooting you mean?
and summons too
No, it’s the same room you’re thinking but the other side
Oh yeah with big guy you need to kill at end
I'm pretty sure he has a barrier that he can proc to protect himself
is china using new bp sidearms for tariq?
snipers wouldnt be an issue for that room, I was trying to figure out how to describe it and that's all that came to mind 
think thats allowed to do.. but they can't alter dmg % and numbers for them
they definitly can
anyone know what artis china is using for tariq?
like if u've player hsr
I’ve got her at ascension 1. Had Ikora in bm 3 weeks in a row lol. One of them even a double
how many did u buy from bm? i was wondering if i bought out the stock for jaren (if it's limited)
t is a widely held belief based on consumer protection laws. Direct nerfs on paid, gacha-based characters are avoided because they can be construed as fraud or a "bait-and-switch" tactic, which violates Chinese consumer rights regarding goods and services
so thats the same way for buffing the characters
I know it wonder if I should ascend her i can get her a2 maybe 3 because of the refund of pinnacle
5x + 2x 5x + 5x = 20. Add onto that a bunch of engram opening and lucky drops, I got to 40 quite fast.
I have 170 engrams
if u dont have a1 prob should get it
I wonder if ill get lucky
cough Hoyoverse Lawsuit cough
honkai star rail found a solution tho, u handle a buffed version of the character that u own but can keep playing the old version
oh maybe
For a "Defense" character Tariq plays more like a offense character
he will just be tanky like jaren ig
With worse dmg out put weapons
But ability spam go crazy on him lol
Insane regen rate for them if full t6
Light echoes looks good on him
Oh yeah that too all dmg increase and dmg reduction
Not that much though
Can yall @me when server up gonna grind new event lol it one of my favorites
new event?
Wonder if an old exotic is going to be better than the BP weapon for Tarik like happened on efri lol
if its like the last pandora you cant really grind it
Oh question how many chests did you guys get
50 cause i worked 7/8 of the days the event was here
16
True but i don't mean grind that way I just wanna do it
54, 27 each phase
Nice
i didnt touch chaos this week 😭
if i didnt have to work 7/8 of the days i wouldve done all 100
Is he as spammable as Jaren?
Nice you got 40
not touching chaos this week tho🤣
Me too im done with it for a while
ill be back in there today for tariq artis
not even gonna bother going for him tbh
CHAOS rising
4k left
i used a lot but i still have 9999
Facts
the leviathan quest redirects u to gauntlet onslaught... im on that raid copium
Dam your mail must of been stacked with art essence lol
You can only ever have 9999
At one time rest goes to mail
Which is dumb
yeah i legit leveled xuan wei artis to take it out of the mail
Lol
I was wondering how people are clearing out exotic artis—my mail has about 20 and growing…
Delete useless one
do you not sell them?
Need a tier list of crap artis that are automatic delete. (With pictures)
they said they have exotic artis
dismantle?
No don't tell me its possible to sell
There's some artifacts that realistically you're never going to use, juts dismantle them
honestly if I'm not planning to use it on a character I just dismantle it
How do u sell them?
We can only dismantle right?
dismantling does give items back
i'm just deleting al the arti's where i dont recognize the pic
That's what I thought....
I mark for discard then once I hit 500 I go to dismantle, click filter, select marked for discard and let it rip
I think he trolling for selling and means dismantle
is there a keybind to mark for discard? i click it every time 💀
I wish
controller has it but not keyboard and mouse
I have to just click everything
ye i saw a controller screenshot with it was curious
Even tho the game isnt on console 
If they brought this game to consoles and native pc it would get revived
It def would. But my belief is they’re prohibited by a contract with Bungie when they licensed the IP
As to not provide competition against them
No joke though. I got a friend who would whale if it went to console
Don't worry, netease will get the rights to D3
Lol no way really?
Haha idk
Would be hilarious
yeah they not be allowed to according to agreements with bungie and stuff
Well we don’t know the exact terms of the contract. But it would be dumb of Bungie to not add those terms when licensing their billion dollar IP.
how many hours till the server is on
It IS on
probably wont be allowed for atleast 3 years or something since launch game.
i think it al depends when D2 actually dies i guess 🤣
usually up in like 30 min
not for us yet
thanks rawr
Sidearms and Granada launcher??…
Yes
Whyyyy the garbage launcher 🥹
server should be up soon
GRANADA
He can group up enemies
Side arms are gonna be hype this rotation
Do we know any abilities
I saw he was defence
There's a video on it
Whaaaat
just enought time to finish 4pc chicken meal
He's more like a offense character
nvm I got in XD
Hee isss then in a bit more hopefull
let me in 😭
Let's gooooo they fixed
Servers LIVE!
i was one chickin in
Okey hes abilities did look good
still cant get in yet
I got in
oh im in
Is it open for eu yet
took 50 pulls for my first one, its not looking good gang
what happened to the seasonal campaign the depths?
Got him in 30 pulls
Gg got him in 30 draw and 5 universal condensate
Dam
Yall not activating him before opening
Nah just getting my usual 1 copy
What artifacts best for him ?
how did u get 5 universal condenate?
Idk
No illustrations?
finally the white tiger is t6
oh man no emotes HIS BROKE
Gg that means games closer to eos they stopped all that:(
i said i would skip this guy and i just immediately burnt all my pulls on him
Omg got him first 10 pull I’m telling youuuu
How?
i just wanted to pull 🤣
my gacha is done
How much did you spend lol
9 strikes / blitz per day to get daily max spins 😭
its was 280 pulls
He is kinda mid no ?
Not bad
Nice
This is my luckiest draw in my life I got 150 pulls and have him t4 I’ve only used 120🥹
now i need to figure out the tornado trap insta kill glitch
Is he worth the pull?
lol there is aready a glitch
instant kill and invincibility glitch
according to chinese video
Wtg
w move by them
What that currency?
same question
From event
holyyyyy we ballssssss
Lol
Are the quests to get thise coins easy
Ah ok
OMG I T6 him with 150😭
Gg
I can’t believe it LOL
Your first t6?
Crazy luck tf
Secound to ikora
Nice
That's the kind of rng I had with Jaren
Y e s
no new artifacty
Feels like everyone got a T6 ikora because they doubled the event length smh
I can’t believe it I was prepared for t 2 maybe 3 but full t6!?!?!?
Yeah
So manifesto is worth investing in?
Yes
Exotic cores pain to farm
Ngl thats good though
50 pulls for for t0 well better thant 60 lol
Unfortunate
i'm not spending a single charm on him lmao, waiting for hh
oh ok then
Yeah, removes the Helhest cryers
Anyone have an idea on artifacts ?
Siphoning Balaazar for Tariq sounds good…
lol they didnt even allow us to trial/training ground for Tariq.
rampaging pact if his ability count as summon
He doesn’t reload with dash right
Fixed power reqs
He has a barrier so it should work
I didn’t read any reload—just 100% reload speed buff
Back to phase 6 reqs? Thank god
Now I can actually phase upgrade. I held off due to IC
He is so fun to use
Does Tariq gain overshield
soo he doesn't have cosmetics but in exchange you can get condensate from rolling?
where is bro's trial stage?
nonexistent for now i guess
where is his story quest 😢
No cosmetics, no trial/training ground, no story quest
And no illustrations..
Poor guy 😢
don't want to be the 50th guy doomposting but like bruh.
Isnt inspiring plasma good on him
i'll just use universal to unlock him and see if I like him ig
PLESE tell me that with the new exotic sidearms he can actually deal with impacts
Why flat dmg
concerto was a meme
Look at his talent tree
Huge
Still flat dmg
1 dev remaining believing in success 😄
1 intern with a dream
This flat dmg crap is half why sidearms and gwynn sucks
She only sidearm user and doesnt have % based wpn mastery
Atleast he’s pretty diverse , spread impact(I hope) and rapid
Estela has flat damage and is still doing fine (honestly it makes her stronger in fair play), it just means it scales off skill damage enhancements instead of weapon damage.
You did not say rapid lol
He won't be able to do rapid at all
Sadly
They dont break it good, they dont break impact worth a crap either
so apparently using a LGL does not count for this
Wouldn't it specify light grenade launcher then? They're inherently 2 different weapon types ingame
Does Netease think we need to use a diff lightbearer every 10 floors of expanse and match element? Do they want us to full build 12 characters? 1 of each ele and wpn type
You can do pierce and impact with Jaren or Efrideet on any element as long as you switch a weapon to the respective element. TLW for Solar, TED for Arc, and a mythic void SG for void
Same goes for Estela in rapidfire and Ikora in spread.
However I do believe NetEase's intentions were 3 characters of each element for each weapon type lol
jaren and efrideet ngl are the best options in rapid fire
estella seems to struggle in rapid fire expanse
Server online?
Yes
Just finished work ready for game time
How you feeling with Tariq brooo
Pretty good and invincible
Ok time to get ready and pull
Speed for everyoneee
wow they fixed Mumu Player and break it again within a week just fantastic
why cant you trial this guy
Due to the new exotic you can get the emblem lol
They basically rushed this seasons characters due to that MASSIVE system overhaul
yeah but you can trial efrideet lol
Only got 2 ornaments in 79 engrams 
tariq seems even more rushed than efrideet. 😭
is he good tho?
unsure
Efrideet is only missing skins, Tariq didn't get anything
lol trying to figure out the best way to do this
efrideet's quest is unvoiced 😢
Activate first then pull
No cosmetics, no trial, no training ground, no story quest, no illustrations
I can definitely buy the illustrations once T6 right!!?
he doesnt have illustrations
Don’t play lol
not trolling
Am I takin the piss or did efri banner never give her condesate
no it had illustrations instead
Tariq gets crystals for ascension
Exactly
That’s better than the illustrations
They should have done that long ago and sold the illustrations lol
Who’s working there man
I got him T2. That’s as far as I’ll go
I got T0 in 80 pulls. I'll just save the pity for Estela
Got him T0 with just condensate then pulled 2 copies. I’ll be able to fully toy around with him
@cyan tide based. She’s coming back soon
TARIQ IS A SIDEARM GRENADE USER!!!
Duh
I got her T1 already, I'll probably try to get at least T3 if she comes back after Gwynn
Got him. Staying T0, save more for Estela rerun

im sitting in 17 pull prob gonna keep it for next characer just get t0 with them new thing
How's the new character treating you guys? 
no way i had two forge success in a row. adept cury mury and adept pilaf now
I take no dmg
I ONLY JUST LOGGED IN!!!
Apart from splash dmg for some reason
Sounds good broski. Hope he delivers 
What artifacts anyone using on new character
So... are the other perks for that Genade launcher usefull OR should we dismantle those ones?...
I'm going plasma in slot 3 and 4
I might do chairoscuro in slot 1
I'm wondering what to take for slot 2 though
not sure tbh. i just know this one is good
How about melee? His barrier specifically says projectiles that it blocks against so I was figuring melee wouldn’t be included either.
what is the best roll for present fleet?
im trying to use it for breaking arc shields
idk how sympathetic detonation works
No, clearly cost cutting or going broke. Didn’t wanna hire the artist for it or the animator for anything else. Honestly he’s the result of a prompt in AI that said give me a generic cool guardian from the destiny universe
Doesn't get damaged by melee
fraternity poly still pretty much goated tbh
but adept anhilation is gonna crack shields as well
.
Damn he’s unkillable in leg campaign
what about sympathetic detonation?
.
O dang, better then I was anticipating then. Rather buffed or just what they decided could get by it.
its alright but it doesn't help 1 tap shields until you break them the first time
Gwynn has % weapon mastery lol
but if its for just that specific use, its still pretty strong and you can fire off 2 shots anyways with ikora
its probably bis just for breaking arc shields, but Id still go with fraternity tbh
wdym ?
you get the sympathetic detonation on the first arc shield break, not when its up im pretty sure
like you have to crack the shield and then itll explode and you get the 60% dmg bonus for 3s
ic so it sucks ig
i mean i could be wrong but thats what i remember
and the loss of a quick reload is cringe
anhilation is more front loaded
should i keep using my fraternity and poly roll? i was just wondering if i should upgrade it to 5 stars
Tarik releases with no cosmetics, no popup when launching the game…..we are in the end times!
He is cracked on s6 with a6
yea, the 15% movement speed bonus with adept and quick reload + base 35% damage is a no brainer
SOOooo...
Have a TEAM OF...
TARIQ and EFRIDEET
BAM... U got all you need... No need Support character.
Honestly... I see No problem with WOLF...
Mass opening time for engrams lol
WHY?...
Damn, crap pulls. Did 90 pulls only 3 copies
Guarantee in 60 Draws
That is above average by a unit per 10 pulls depending on starting pity.
3 copies in 90 pulls is goood what!!
1 dev working on overrtime
His banner has no sparrow ghost emote either which is insane
The cosmetic I could understand if they planned to actually make them to sell now…. But yea no trial and no quest is sad.
Makes pulling feel even worse than it already did
The lag that Tariq can cause just from doing his abilities after using the others
3 Copies...
1st (TTree 0) and 2nd and 3rd are the TTree 1 and 2?..
yeah so u have talent 2 on him
I like the concept that he can get condensate, makes it seem easier for people to catch up with at least base units/acension. But in the end it is preference, I don’t use any sparrow now besides the one I got from Estela so those had no influence on me.
I just noticed that the barrier that Tariqs super that can spawn, is basically a wall keeping anyone out and inside
The condensate is nice but like whole drop feels half assed could've had condensate with the cards
No new shadowshaper card since jaren either
its truly looking like an EOS now. if they had a roadmap at least we will know what tey planning but there is nothing
Yea I am a little sad on that. It definitely feels they have cut back on production cost, unless they actually do release these cosmetics/sparrows other way soon
Or this character was like super last minute and not supposed to drop right now which is also embarrassing
Question, is it better to buy Tariq's ascendance than pull?
Wouldn't that give me a copy plus he will be assendent?
To me talents are worth more, so if you can find a way to get the condensate cheaply it would allow you to get more T6s in the long run
if u get him with 40 condensates that doesnt count as also ascending
just means u got him
Ah ok
The sidearms are lowkry tuff man
5760 silver for 40 condensates on sale = 32 pulls worth
anywhere with a tanky impact shinka I can test? the one in the firing range isn't good enough.
high lvl expanse is the only place really. if u arre trying to test sidearm impact i can tell u its doggy
all I needed to hear lol
Tell me the results
yeah until they buff sidearms. he is pretty much just a spread character
a little of impact actually since HGL that break impact a bit
I was going to ask if some of the damage on contact mods could make HGL an impact weapon. I don’t use most spread units atm so haven’t tested how those affect things yet.
Dang that's unfortunate, was hoping for a decent impact character for expanse or cordon
He's tanky enough to walk into a cordon shinka and stand there breaking it with sidearm
Also prob gonna get massive buffs from cordon modifiers so it'll be fine anyway
how long does it take tho?
Im taking no damage from a expanse ogre 2k light underleveled
to break said shinka
Why what?
interesting, do the new sidearms do like a DOT to impact shields?
double shotgun buff in cordon
Were waiting for Part 2 character?...
jaren numbers gonna go crazy?
Wow you actually fully built him lol
Yeah but I usually open final day
I will have well over 200
Wonder if it stacks with helhest speed buff as well?
speed buffs dont stack
And hopefully get some god tier stuff because they buff odds on final day lol
lol if I want something I get it
the highest one overrides
so what is is that's causing damage to the shield after it comes back, just curious.
Now back to Hoard and collect
Gg im gonna save how was your draws though how much did you spend?
To t6
180 pulls
Wow
First activation
Gg
You better be on that expanse leaderboards with him
Dmg overtime and splash dmg is basically Tariqs weakness
s4 p2 just meh. Feels like devs leave and just released last content
I haven’t even played with him yet lol
oh i giuess the new sidearm is doing some spaghetti code lol
I never Bothered with the CHAOS Farming...
I would had been Exhausted and Disling playing...
I wanted to keep playing with intrest of Fun... NOT Be Prisoned because pf an Farm Event.
ok I think the scorch from manifesto is counting as weapon damage. not sure how much it will matter tho
so lazy
I agree it’s just a standard promotion
basically. well thats one thing that we found that is broken
I'm assuming you just transferred the Jaren artifs to Tariq?
We need to let them know, I’ve given feed back
Thats what I am asking, do they want us to build 12 diff ones?
no im not sure we hit 1st anni😢
but the shinka has to already be broken to apply the scorch sooo kekw
Since when?
I feel like their intention is, but you don't have to.
Havnt seen her high end expanse
Sidearm meta? jkjk
Just don’t know if I should pull for the last tier or use
I know that lol 🤣
Since always bro, id actually prefer flat on her
Use this in case they don't rerun Estela lol
Efrideet is flat btw
Just save the 60 right
Tbf depending on the character, entirely different artifacts could be better
Oh.. I didn't realize we'll be getting a new battle pass... is it just me or was the last one shorter than usual? I only got to 49 (missed the last hand cannon), and I usually get to lvl 80-90...
Absolutely. If it's that vs 60 pulls, use that so you can pull 60 on estela rerun
Omg
Or you just 10 pull it
That isn’t due to damage, that is largely due to summons dieing easy I feel there XD that is why a lot of Estela say her summons need her damage reduction (also Hairkora is flat damage).
Estela on test dps is pulling 2mill dps during burst 15 second phases and hasn’t burnt through all her ammo by the end of it, this is similar it felt to other dps units, just the first few seconds is lower.
Ofcourse you did...
Man, it does feel like EoS is just around the corner with the game. I actively spend to help the game but it doesn’t seem like it will be around much longer
Facts
Wait I only read the suggestion now. Is there legit no illustration, no quest and no cosmetics tied to Tariq?
It is mixed signals. Doing this big of a revamp with the idea you will be EOSing is basically insane.
Its base dmg you right, not total weapon dmg
I’d rather the frags and buy the illustrations
Or earn them some how what ever
That practically confirms the fact Tariq is a quick patchwork from older characters
I hope net ease comes with a blog post of sorts showing off the future but it doesn’t seem that way
No it’s they are taking it a different direction
Whilst keeping the game open to play
nah, i guess next big post is about EOS... so better dont call it so fast, i love this game😢
Need to farm adept now
I love the game too trust me. I don’t want EoS either
Me too its not a bad game
If it dies it dies, if it lives it lives. Just enjoy your time while it's still here
regardless they need to release a post or at least say something. leaving pple in the dark aint helping anything with how last minute or low effort things are
In the end it could Eos soon or it could last. Don’t spend more then you are willing for passing entertainment
~ my philosophy for all live service games ~
yes, this game is fun 2 play even u have so little time, like breaks on work. WWM cant fit it on phone
I agree
as i see ananta is bext big fail
No trial for the new guy? No story? No audio? Game might be cooked yall
yes, nothing... no trial, no skins, no quest.
even new event is copy of old one
How is tariq ?
Thats how most events work
Artifacts?
This one is cool though we can buy condensate
Still surprised we don't have Tether in-game, one of the most iconic supers in Destiny.
He also looks like Latino Jaren
he loojs like solid snake collab blank
this seems pretty good rn
Which is that one again also this a good event too ngl
dudes pretty much immune
I can’t believe I’m the one dooming now, this is insane
omg its a jaren cycle now. cordon modifiers buff jaren hard
feels like game go EOS as soon as my country EOS foreighn network 😢
so damn sad 2026
Except against dmg over time effects and splash dmg
Anyone have a picture of him with his whole getup
I'm currently trying this
I wanna see his helmet
Gonna be jaren hell ikora
How much % does preponderant give maxed
Or new character ikora hell but i don't think it will work well idk
30
Rampaging pact is 33%
How's the new character? I can't log in right now. Babysitting
Is he fun?
Yes
Yes he’s a tank
Also what does he look like with a helmet?
Last question, any costumes for Efrideet in the silver shop?
That’s what I wanna know
Melee enemies vs Tariq with his aura
Awesome. 😂 meme got the message across
I hate that you can’t switch helmet on in the preview
Does unrelenting evo proc by the shield?
Nope
Ikr expanse ogre wasn’t even tickling me
No trial for him or character quest damn
Just don't try to fight anything that can do splash dmg or dmg over time
character doesnt die but damn hgls suck man
Fr getting more dps from sidearms then my heavy
Also atm he has a broken bug that makes you title card and insta kill enemies quote title card meaning Invincible
like it took 5 shots to break a spread shinka in an adept strike lame
Bro, did u T6 him? Congratulations 🥳
sidearm feels better than expected but whatever
Welcome my brother
So is Tariq a Pull or Pass?
We dont know yet but I can tell you one thing he is title card [ ]
if you like defensive characters you can pull
Frat and Ensured on the solar GL? Or another GL?
Tariq the goat
adept autoloading probably, but idk
And this too
fraternity might be better just for some damage boost ngl
He’s invincible with a lot of burning and dot
Got a picture of him with his helmet on? That is literally so important for me. I’m so picky with Destiny armor lol
And explosions and burning tornados
He helmet kinda bad illl try to get a pic
Tariq is him
Will autoload trigger Manifestos perks?
his barrier scales with barrier boost
Thanks!
Course lol I was bored and really needed something to play
And thanks
idk, I doubt it
Why do they keep doing no hood…
Real..
I don’t hate him, I guess I’ll pull
Bro’s about to be gassed by the germans
Definitely looks like a treasure hunter
Bro picked up that ww2 gas mask and decided to upgrade it
He’s so fun lol can’t wait to play with arc build lol
arc build might be the play
I thought you would be extremely disappointed by this release, but I’m glad you like it
Looks kinda sick with Festival of the Lost Helmet
this should just say 'literal garbage'
Arc build?
So just are reskinned wolf
mythic arc sidearm and the only relevant hgl (smart bomb)
Bro don’t you know how many builds our brother has that is not listed looool
?
Fam he has so much experimental opening lol
Hahahaha alr mb mb
A heap of dung
Sidearms exotic are lowkey tuff tho on him
He does aoe damage
they are and they work with his meter which is like jarens but detonation based
Bingo
The new ones?
Yeah they are tariqs last word basically
Works with his kit good
I have a feeling corn dog is going to have a field day with this character
they feel alot better than concerto ever did thats for sure I guess
Facts
Just tried it
But I couldn’t say what the history felt like
But it’s void so not sure
Wooooooo! Ure welcome 🎉
Wait, is he fun enough that you broke your streak of only Titans for him?
Manifesto feels pretty good but grenade launchers are in a terrible place. He’s gonna be fun to play but that’s about it
Then you know ..
Yup that or wait another 6 months :/ lol
He’s defensive so it’s a pass 😂
He doesn’t have a hood so he’s basically a titan
is new guy good or a miss?
Efri was most certainly a titan
100%
So what are the best artifacts for Tariq? I've been seeing people use plasma but how good is the uptime?
Does anyone know if unrelenting evo works for Tariq?
Do both of his abilities count as summons?
plasma def bis
Inspiring plasma is good
unrelenting evo seems super high uptime idk what else id put on though tbh
30% while barrier up and it’s always up
So barrier procs unrelenting evo?
he has a barrier so yesonly his Sig1 counts as summon. tornado from sig2 does not seem to count
He throws scimitars though, do those count I wonder?
the scimitars are the ones that create a barrierso that auto counts
all barriers are summons
His sig 1 that grants him a barrier
How do you have all the nodes unlocked? I'm missing a ton of trifling inspiration and I've been reaching the exp cap every week
flame is missing a node
Inspiring plasma and rampaging pact both hsve good dmg boosts and easy to proc
How long until we know what his best minimal tier number is
Should've said almost all, I'm missing like 6 nodes
3 or more days I guess
i didnt stay up on week 2 or something
Rampaging pact uptime is an issue tho, unless T6 gives another charge for his barrier
rampaging is 6 seconds so its just bad
True , any substitutes?
Gaining xp when the phase increase hits but before weekly reset. was like a 2-3 hour tmeframe before reset I think?
yeah i will say
slot 3 - preponderant plasma
slot 4 - blinding plasma
is the go to
Where my concerto buff
How good is the uptime with plasma 3? Idk how often he applies debuffs
all his abilities apply debuffs so yes
efrideet also applied debuffs constantly and that artifact just didnt work
What about inspiring plasma
i think that got fixed no?
Do allies need to be within 15m to get the 40% speed increase from Gale Barrier?
But can you reach rhe duration cap?
i believe so. u apply debuffs constantly basically
def needs a full testing to check tho i guess
Nice, so plasma 3 and 4 for offensive artifacts. What about for 1-2?
bulwark pact is good slot 2 to make ur barrier even stronger. basically unkillable
What did bulwark do again
Oh yeah that’s good
slot 1 i will say chiaroscuro
Why is it good? Because his shield will get 50%?
Yo his T6 gives him a second tornado charge? That is so lame
50% extra health to ur sheilds yes
Ai generated character
And he has always a shield up yes?
50% extra damage to the tornados if it hits 5 times
yeah his t6 allows him to use mobility artifacts a bit more
but its only the next cast of it
yeah imma say resolute conjunction slot 1 (35% DR) if u plan to play up close. or just Chiaroscuro in general (25% DR)
He just need 5 instances of any dmg doesnt he?
Where is the character trial for Tariq
I tried it once u hit his energy bar full and u get to throw all abilities the extra tornado does add quite good dmg
Here comes the funny part
maybe I'd have to check
I'm having a really hard time figuring out which way we are headed lmao
this is his BiS imo. until some other testing is done
How's Tariq? Draw or skip?
it would be nice if the stacks appeared in the buff bar 
It's all a coin flip at this point
Anyone know if nourishing is procking off of tariq's scimitars or as soon as the barrier is generated
If you want senator Armstrong as your solar defense character, go for it
He has so much aura that he’s immune to ranged attacks
Wait what 😂
Just get T0 and decide later if you want more talents
Even melee attacks
yes it does since its a summon. but DR on him is better imo
He gains infinity basically
Fr?
Yeah
bros got like nanomachines in his barrier
Even at t0
Nah t6 ask questions later
So what’s the best bet of artifacts so far?
Yes
Yes sir
I'll give DR a go
^
By the sounds of it, Tariq is just a solar merge of Gwynn and Maru?
@jagged osprey
The only thing that can bypass his aura is Dot and splash dmg
Basically made for him
Sweet. I’ll get some of those later
Tariq has aura
I do predict we won’t get EoS in a month, but maybe after season 5
The games kinda in maintence mode at this point lol
Whats EoS stand for again
Lol
Tariq does look a bit like solid snake
hey guys
Trevor has some cool ability’s
XD we did predict he would have a aura
Extension of service. kappa.
So I'm not online rn can anyone give me a brief description of abilities, or am I pushing it 🤣
They only adjusted half of the iron commander requirements lmao. We still need 3 over 90k to get the bonus rewards on average
Sig 1 ranged attack, get aura(barrier)
I like this when is EoS coming chat
i got mythic kabr should i be happy
That’s Tariq’s version of EoS
Lol didnt realize
Tbf with 3 maxed characters one of which in emanare you can reach that cap
But I do agree it’s to high
Yeah but only if I dispatch one team at a time
I have 3 that make it
Yeah exactly, I think it needs a rework as well
Total power req should be 252,000
T6 him and can’t play till tonight so idk how he’s even gonna be haha
Tariq top 3
actually I have 6 characters that can all make the 270k requirement
Reaching
Aura Tariq>borefreet
There gonna add a new mech or some bs that makes Trevor meta
With Emanare being able to shoot up one units power quite a bit this actually doesn’t seem wrong.
He doesn’t die ?
Yeah but what’s dumb is that the req is supposed to be 3x the individual req, which is 84k since the nerf. They forgot to change the 270k tho
He basically is immune to most attacks apart from splash dmg and dot
How? He lacks dps good luck getting kills when a helhest or efridett is in play
They’re casuals, they just play for fun, which is also valid
It’s day one buddy
We ain’t getting one shot from snipers
Who’s getting one shot by snipers outside of contest or high cordon?
High expanse
Expanse
High expense
Your a casual you wouldn’t know
🤯
Nah umeko and hel hard smash
I literally left out one end game mode but that doesn’t change the question…
Oh that reminds me, I can just swap to a different character before dispatching
Agreed on Umeko, Hel not so much without the crow skin
Its very valid, definitely not always about meta. He’s def gonna be fun to play
That’s the answer to the question, the three places you actually get killed by anything ever
I think it is based on when you accept one sec I will get a video (unless it changed this update)
That wasn’t what I asked
Yes facts they made her extra thicc with that skin
Game so dead the mods don’t even care about innuendos anymore 
You listed 4 moast important playlists
Lol
I’d gladly be Efrideet’s Iron Wolf
And to this I responded “who” outside of said activities
Woof woof
Real
Yeah I think it is based off when you dispatch
What’s your point? We are looking at high end activities when we get new character ain’t nobody checking how good a new character is in legacy ?
Nah but legit from a story perspective, Wolf’s personality connects to well with Efrideet, I ship a Wolfideet
You had to say something, huh?

Hey you know I’m kidding and I know you’re here ❤️
Just efris ghost annoys the life outta me ngl
The real question is what was your point by saying “we don’t get one shot by snipers”
When survivability never was the determining factor in end game activities
yeah Tariq is strong defensively and unkillable. but if ur not t6. i dont see anywhere u getting much damage in his kit imo
The aura farming menace Tariq
That we won’t get one shot by sniper what 😭I mean irs pretty clear
Surviving = more uptime-> more dmg
Congrats, now I’d like to introduce you to my buddy damage wall
I like Tariq’s British ghost
I think you’re right on that
As if end game activities aren’t timed
not when ur on a timer
I mean he is a defence character right so maybe that's the idea, you play him for defence not to deal massive amounts of damage?
^
this game isnt built for low dmg tho
the same issue that plagues all defense characters. there is no game mode for them to truly shine
So like he takes for your efri and Jaren while they deal all the damage
Delete timers now
in high end
Defense isn’t the meta currently
Guess im stuck on trying to get jaren with the shards then for impact and damage then. Good thing his good at t0
he does give his barriers to allies right. so i guess that does help actually
I mean it would definitely offer a lot more versatility and shake up the meta I wouldn’t necessarily be against it
The game is lit just kill stuff faster before it can kill you
Doesn't matter if you can survive in Expanse if you can't kill everything before the wipe timer ends
And speed
Yea I get you, but maybe there is a place for him orrrrr they shift the meta
Defense is much more fun than speedrunning for me atleast
God public transport makes me seethe with anger
jaren is offensive but he is very tanky
At least the UI is showing it changes after switching who gets Emanare (top team).
He still does damage he’s just not a dps focused character he’s more of a utility to a team ”tanking” so that borefreet can spam abilities and do damage
Been trying to get home for the past 3 hours
yeah so essentially in higher lvl cordon, he is just there for barriers and thats it imo
Tbh the meta isn’t meant to be fun majority of the time
cuz the debuffs he applies does it work for allies as well?
Yea that's helpful for sure
Pretty good barrier support if you focus on it
Barriers for allies is crazy
Your responses just keep proving to me that you play with low skill players and that you are in fact a casual
Yes but that's good, he has a purpose
Efri is not a glass cannon sitting in a corner needing a defense character to come to her rescue
My respsons to saying a defence character is a utility makes me a casual?
Defense is not needed in the current meta. Period.
Your yapping at this point , your greatest point is trying to say that I’m a casual
If he ends up doing good dps then great I’d like a change in the meta
Shes a independent woman who don't need no man (snaps fingers)
I agree this isn’t destiny 2 where you need a well of radiance, titan bubble or shield in a raid boss
You need dps and dodge telegraphed moves
I Didint say efrideet was bad I said she was boring and it’s subjective don’t be sensetive bcs your favoritord chatavter got crititzed
No my point is he needs to do more dps which I hope he does, but as of rn he’s buns
Damn that sucks. My test wasn't accurate because my first team is over the power req by 180 without emanare
“Borefeet can spam abilities” you implied it with the name calling and as if she needs a secondary character to be valid
Yea that was my first team too, I had to recheck it.
The problem is they give too many characters different verbs, if he was the only one with confinement we would have something but helhest confines and just does more damage
Did they fix it so everyone gets the emanare bonus?
Wait does that mean if I go play another activity as a different character I won't get my IC bonus???
Id argue he has better crowd control and add clear potential then efrideet too
Ever played with an ikora?
No I’m highlighting how boring she is to play it’s subjective
No, they would need to increase requirements by a lot if they did. They lowered the individual requirements is all
Efrideet is probably the best add controller. She throws a jav if they die you get the javs back
Or you can send 1 tornado or 7 spears
ikora is the best at that by far
You’re one of 4 people that I’ve heard say this and 2 out of said 4 were coping
If I remember to, I will take a bullet for the team and accept this in 30 minutes to find out for sure (I dispatched with him having the Emanare). It could be a UI issue and I just never decided to risk it before.
I’d normally consider my unbuilt non t6 characters boring as well
Love watching the laser tag a group of enemies then they just explode lol
I dispatched two teams with emanare. I'm gonna wait and see if it changes on the claim screen too.
Ikora is the goat for sure
Hairkora peak
Best t6
My estella and ikora aren't t6 and are very fun to play. Helhest on the other hand lol
Ikora-H is my only T6 mythic and I am so glad I did it
I only love Estella for her skins, she has the best skins in the game imo
I'm concerned by the people queueing cordon atm
Just to clarify tho I love her kit as well just don’t have her t6
this should not be possible
So I don’t play her much
She's the only one with real skins 😭
Aura
Yeah lower cordon ranks are sad
I think she's the only one who got a event for a skin you had to buy or something. Don't remember anyone else getting something like that
Its been so long since I was in one that I forgot how they were
she got the last exotic skin in this game
I refuse to do anything other then premade teams for cordon lol, I’ve seen others struggle, I’d rather play with bots atp lol
whats good gwyn or tariq?
tariq (idk)
Gwynn is meta
Tariq
Im just f’d
rip ning fei
Datum🥲
HES GOING TO 80 BROO
Remember when Ning used to be at the top of the expanse leaderboards?
even t0 gwyn is good enough?
I’m lying
Tariq is the better pick for now
I just gotta get 34 seasonal blue things in the eme are
Bots are kinda crazy sometimes 🗿
i cant tell sorry
And 4 exotic gems
All good brother, I’ve yet to test the new sidearms with Gwynn but she may be super good now if the aoe counts towards her orbs spawning
Wtf, I had a stupidly good Kabr bot too once
But your safest bet rn would be Tariq
Shouldn't the Patron bundle have refreshed by now?
It did for me
idk bot in adept is cracked they delete shinka in seconds
ty anyway ^_^
bro I am tripping it did for me too
Yeah I was shocked. Dude was going crazy. He even helped me break rapid shinkas when i ran out of ammo lol
The bot had purple gear and was doing all that. Like how?
The bots are becoming more powerful even with a lesser gear
I just want bots to break Shinkas XD.
I want t6 meta bots 😔
I have to wonder how they gear bots
If bots could do that in cordon then it wouldn't be as bad. I feel like they throw in that game mode lol
i saw them breaking precision shinkas before
Ikora with spread wasn’t “horrible” I felt. But holy any of them on piercing or impact was horrid.
i think cordon hp is overtuned too much bots cant break them
easy fix make them one shot the shinka
And yet they can’t stun a spread in one hit with a rocket 
So i guess even the level of the usefulness for your bot is random as well lol
What’s the diffusion map rn? Busy and don’t feel like logging in lol
apadana
Im not sure till tariq release. No im sure we have a chance 2 not get s5 at all, coz stored content feels like ending. Look at tariq - no quest, no skin, even no stickers and trial. And we dont get any new activity (just TDM rerun would be nice). And devs remain sinent from marth, in duscird and in wechat page... So bad sign...
Bless you
welp I can throw in dire again
diffusion is foundry, containment is apadan
Wait it’s the flying rocks again 😭
Just get good at dodging
Oh bet, that’s not to bad
I don’t ever touch containment anyways
The Witness dmg phase in D2 prepared me for dodging
nah i ram into them no time to dodge
Stars are for peasants
Yeah the hitboxes are insane
Yeah i just wait for them to pass now. The number of times i thought i was safe and died is way too high lol
i need cabal mod now
wish granted all your mods now have cabal counter stat
I can never tell if your HH is just not doing good damage, or you’re just built different 😂
JAYDEN
no piercing shinka to abuse arby 💀
And stability perk ofcourse. Gotta keep your gun steady against those small bodies
Wait what are shinkas this rotation? Please don’t tell me rapid impact 😔
spread imp
Oh that’s not that bad
piercing spread in contain
Gotta sell the new character somehow lol
this hh cracked, cleared 112 piercing
Double ikora teams about to pop off
Yeah stil is cracked I’ve seen him before
cant sell when u give him mid loadout and no quest/skin
You forgot defense role
Yeah the no cosmetics in the banner is odd
nah this game only need support role
Facts, triple HH or bust
tariq plays like a support tbh
Valid, with his grouping I’d say more of a offense control type character
Both rare ingame activities collectables and premium
if i had leaves i would main tariq
We don’t need illustration to pull for
Am i crazy or did the ones from yesterday get deleted?
Hell has frozen over
lucky for me helhest lives to rule once again
I’m not sure
I need to go mines can’t believe I got so lucky
I just want a Jaren HH rerun already 😔
@vast arch if I send you the link to sayalarry's day one Tariq thoughts document could you put it in a community guides thread?
are they serious the general cordon title works this cycle but they didnt bother to fix it last cycle 😡
Ok need to grind
someone sniped our spot the last two days when we couldnt play ymuch
Cringe
Can’t stand when people wait till last minute just to get ahead lol, challenge it while people are actively pushing give people more of an incentive to grind it
Waiting till last minute is corny
nah man it was just unfortunate
fixes are given out at bare minimum i dont think any non game breaking stuff will get priority
just couldnt play enough
