💭│main-chat

[rotund flame]

When applied to yourself or to a teammate?

[neon pebble]

Im embracing it, talking with AI is better than talking with any Gen Z 🤣

Customer service WAY better

They also show up to work 👀

[twilit thistle]

Trap exclusive knowledge. I did that by hand, in sections, using numerous ai and picking the best translated text. Chinese is tricky because one char can translate to multiple different words.

[meager bear]

Us?

[heady obsidian]

"talking with the robot designed to give me exactly what I want is better than talking with someone who might be different" is a great self report

[lavish carbon]

I'd really love to play the new strikes for cordon instead of the old ones

[meager bear]

no gen z cant even find jobs in this lame job market im gen z jobs You cat even get them bro 😭

[twilit thistle]

lol if you dont know anything about ai other than negative things you've read online, you shouldn't argue about ai. They got rid of sycophant 4o almost a year ago

[neon pebble]

Differences arnt an issue? People actually working is an issue. Should be no cell phones allowed at work

[meager bear]

I do not trust ai ngl mate

[heady obsidian]

and how is that related to anything that came prior

"gen Z uses their phones at work so I must eliminate livelihoods" incredible gambit

[neon pebble]

If a person isnt doing the job they are paid for why should they have it?

Legit, if you just did your job at a proper pace and wage....

[meager bear]

We can't even get jobs

[heady obsidian]

do you have an example of a person doing this

let alone an example that means the job should be eliminated entirely

[neon pebble]

Depends on location, where I am we cant get workers like anywhere

[meager bear]

And the pay is dog butt

[neon pebble]

Walmart put in self checkouts for a reason

[twilit thistle]

Thats a valid concern. As long as its up to date, and the stuff actually wrong with them I have no quarrel.

[signal spade]

wheres the good post of his abilities

[meager bear]

Im live in louisiana lame ahhh place

[heady obsidian]

the "proper pace" is instantaneous and the "proper wage" is nothing. they're replacing AI because the people at the very top get more money doing so

[neon pebble]

Dang bro, not even near florida georgia line where all the work is down there. I hear alabama is buns for work too

[neon pebble]

Ok mister expert, enjoy your night

[sullen depot]

AI is a current bubble that is waiting to burst. Just depends on which company decides to burst it first

It’s 100% not sustainable

[heady obsidian]

do you truly base your morals on what Walmart is doing

[sharp talon]

have tariq details come out?

[brittle zodiac]

@sharp talon yes

[neon pebble]

Bruh, I said enjoy your night. You dont have to force your opinions on me, just take pity on me and move on already

[stark forge]

come check bilibili stream they are doing cordon with tariq

[visual rain]

huh

[neon pebble]

Land of the free, do as you please breh

[heady obsidian]

sorry I'm not your AI and don't instantly shut down and crumple over like a piece of paper the second you ask me to

[twilit thistle]

Thats what I mean, ryoiki is up to date, and that is the real truth. Ai companies are cutting features and even using clever tactics. There has been no true big step since reasoning was introduced.

[neon pebble]

Ok, AI isnt paper smart guy

[stark forge]

AI won't job your take but someone who AI your will who take AI usage limits 2x MCP grok slop claude fast skill autoresearch open claw llamas seekdeep agentic million context gpu copilot h̸a̵r̶n̴e̸s̵s̸ b̷̡̲̃̑e̴̜͇͂n̶͉̓̍c̸̳̿h̶̺̗̓̌m̶͇̱̚a̶̙̬rk wi͂l̴͈̞̤͆l̷̥̲͑̐

[meager bear]

Land of the mid

[sharp talon]

what is the cordon map?

[heady obsidian]

you're in a public channel if you're upset that I'm talking in the public channel you really need to do some self reflecting

[sharp talon]

who u watching sayalarry?

[stark forge]

ur beloved foundry

[twilit thistle]

Thats a personal attack.

[rotund flame]

Never seen a Walmart with more than 2 open registers. They always have the dumb self checkout that freezes up when you scan fruit lol

[neon pebble]

You keep tagging me and replying to my messages... lol bruh cmon already

[heady obsidian]

"if I hallucinate something you didn't say and say Mr <hallucination> guy it'll make YOU the stupid one"

[heady obsidian]

messages you sent tagging me in a public channel

I am replying to you in the same manner

[neon pebble]

"Crumple over like a piece of paper"

[visual rain]

someone ping me in an hour so i can read this all

[heady obsidian]

I see why you prefer talking to a robot now

[neon pebble]

Like I said, enjoy your night

[meager bear]

What 😭

[rotund flame]

You know the new character is boring when people rather fight over ai 😭

[visual rain]

ong bro has all the cards stacked against him

sidearms and heavy GL AND defense yeah pack it up

[neon pebble]

His talents are beyond broke. +200% dmg increase for weapons

[visual rain]

200% damage increase for SIDEARMS

[stark forge]

im watching 3 tariq is what it takes to break a impact shinka 😭

[rotund flame]

Bro never stood a chance. Like pick a struggle little bro 😭

[vale umbra]

you say that like our best DPS wasn't a support character for ages

[neon pebble]

Copium man, im holdin on

[heady obsidian]

he's strawmanning like his life depends on it is the point, it was a way of saying "being quiet" but he didn't like that I said "crumple over like a piece of paper" because AI isn't made of paper and thus I'm the stupid one

[vale umbra]

"a bow wielding support character, ew"

[visual rain]

well back to the ai argument

im gonna go eat yall have fun with that

[lavish carbon]

I mean HH is no white mage at all 😂

[worn trellis]

love bows

[signal spade]

who has a coherent screenshot

reddit letting me down

[meager bear]

Ahhh okay

[twilit thistle]

Erm Trap has them but u gotta be in it to see my work 🙁

[rotund flame]

Bows might be clunky to play but they beat sidearms any day of the week

[sharp talon]

make calming token work on shotguns with jaren

day 3 of asking 🤣

[oak kettle]

Wait do we know what tariq’s abilities do now?

[stark forge]

idk just ask for rampaging pact on jaren atp

[lavish carbon]

did you try chaperone yet or nah

I'm too lazy to do it

[sharp talon]

no its unupgraded but ig ill try

[empty kettle]

Yes, in a way

[lavish carbon]

just need to see if it works or not you can upgrade after

[twilit thistle]

🤔 i didnt think of emea. I guess nosy can have them too

[oak kettle]

Also sidearm access means concerto which means 60% damage buff and 2 mags of autoloading for his hgls so potentially good dps on that alone

[stark forge]

nah concerto would cut your dps massively

[oak kettle]

Tho maybe that’s a s5 thing because the hgl options are very limited rn

[sharp talon]

how does he compare to ikora? 😂

[stark forge]

idk he feels like mythic wolf more

[visual rain]

i just think theres at least 2 other better options for both burst and sustained dps so i dont see him being valuable for anything other than movement speed

[stark forge]

tbh next cordon prob just run jaren and ikora is enough

[sullen depot]

Wait what were the abilities. I’m out of loop

[stark forge]

sidearm too bad for impact and hgl cant compare to ikora rocket

[twilit thistle]

Says defense, didnt read like a defense.

All i saw was dmg, dmg and even more dmg

[oak kettle]

Yeah but weapon types definitely aren’t everything

[empty kettle]

Offensive hunter disguised as a defense character

[stark forge]

he got movement speed buff and team barrier buff for squad play at least

[sharp talon]

he better be able to survive cuz solar spread expanse hits very hard

[empty kettle]

Actually sounds useful

[stark forge]

survive he can but dps i doubt

cant outrank jaren

[twilit thistle]

He dips a little into it. Kinda like hes split just like he was arc+solar, and his kit is impact+spread, and hes defense+offense. Its fitting.

[sharp talon]

yay jaren mains live another day

[stark forge]

takes 3 tariq to break 1 impact shinka 🤣

[sharp talon]

im actually an ikora main now

[oak kettle]

Sidearms are just not a shinka weapon

[twilit thistle]

Aint no way anyone has done the math for it yet. You should see some of the relic stuff

[oak kettle]

They don’t do anything against any shinka

[twilit thistle]

Gonna need a @indigo solar for it.

Guy has retribute planetisimal bult into his relic stuff.

[oak kettle]

But also don’t write his dps off yet, 60% concerto buff and built in reloads from that are genuinely massive towards him doing good dps, the only thing he lacks is a perfect hgl to pair

[sharp talon]

any news about new artifacts ?

[oak kettle]

And abilities also probably help

[stark forge]

no new artifact 🤣

no skin no illustration

[bitter estuary]

balls

[stark forge]

just a bone dry draw banner

[oak kettle]

My hopes for a hgl are the mag size and damage up, reload down perk column 1 with a generically good column 2 but we’ll have to wait for at least s5 for that

[sharp talon]

i hope he has a voiced quest just to troll efrideet

[stark forge]

no quest too

[twilit thistle]

they arent gonna drop new artifacts. Trust me, its actually a good thing.

[bitter estuary]

whar

[stark forge]

i may be wrong but i saw the lore page look exact same as kabr

[twilit thistle]

I had to do the wiki stuff on them. The last thing you want are more of those things.

[bitter estuary]

holy crap free characteR???

[oak kettle]

Agreed, artifact powercreep has been kinda crazy

[sharp talon]

drop a new shotgun artifact, make shotgun precision damage +100%

[oak kettle]

Best not make everyone farm 3 copies of 3 new sets cus it overtook an old one

[lavish carbon]

does anyone know how much proficiency an adept singularity chest from reward retrieval give?

[twilit thistle]

If you get an artifact at random, as there are 100, its a 1% chance its the one you want.

[oak kettle]

Speaking of artifacts those who’ve seen the kit what looks good at first glance

[twilit thistle]

107554 is what i am at now

[bitter estuary]

30 iirc

[empty kettle]

His kit has potential

[oak kettle]

Is there a “summon”, reload ability, movement ability on low cd, barrier, etc

Stuff that enables the good artifacts

[stark forge]

wish we get more qol for artifact, turn those substats to separate modules now we only need the base artifact copy to slot them in

[twilit thistle]

107574 is what i am at after

[empty kettle]

He does have a barrier

[vast arch]

He’s got barrier and movement abilities so rampaging and veil lmao

[river vigil]

New World had potential

[vast arch]

I already have his artifacts

[empty kettle]

What game is that

[lavish carbon]

so 20, thank you 🥰

[bitter estuary]

oh balls

[twilit thistle]

You get 2 per stage iirc

[bitter estuary]

WAIT it is 20

[oak kettle]

Peak I was actively farming those for Ning so I should have a decent amount of spares

[bitter estuary]

strikes give 40 iirc

[twilit thistle]

so 26 in total, including the chest.

[bitter estuary]

wow im dumb

balls game

[lavish carbon]

I want tariq on 3.7k for triumphs, need to retrieve 185 chests = 555 stages

we had spike yesterday luckily and I kept it over reset so I can pre-farm

[twilit thistle]

If you do good u get like 60 somewhere. I think? Not sure. Might be 80 actually i rlly dont remember. I think 6 player activites give more.

[bitter estuary]

i think its like 76 max

[rotund flame]

How do people do this ? Just keep your game on so the modifiers don't reset?

[bitter estuary]

if you get all 4 gold badges

mvp gives an additional 10 i think?

so at max you can get 86

[lavish carbon]

yeah just stay in it

[bitter estuary]

i might be wrong with my calculations though

[obtuse folio]

Aura Barrier? sounds cool

[sharp talon]

buff ikora

[stark forge]

i remember its like 100 or so in gauntlet

80 max in legacy

[cyan tide]

Don't those chests reset daily? Also there's going to be maintenance so you won't be able to keep the spike shell run

[lavish carbon]

we used to be able to save and load after reset but that doesn't work anymore so you have to stay in it the entire time

[neon pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-halo-infinite-spartan-energy-shields-halo-infinite-multiplayer-gif-23654032

[lavish carbon]

the reset already happened they expire on next one

I just need to farm enough in the time between reset and maintenance

[bold fog]

Link to tariq a abilities?

[cyan tide]

Daily reset hasn't happened yet

[lavish carbon]

for emea it did 2 hours ago

look you can see it on the top

[cyan tide]

Ah, I didn't know it was that much earlier

[lavish carbon]

I didn't even know we had different resets

[neon pebble]

Scattered

[lavish carbon]

I just hope the maintenance doesn't screw over the reward retrieval

[bold fog]

It will

So claim way before reset

[sharp talon]

i sent iron commander b4 s4 and i claimed it after s4 began. that worked at least

[lavish carbon]

it says reset in 21hours

I'll do it anyways and let you know if it works

[twilit thistle]

na vs emea might be different.

[bold fog]

Why would someone not claim

[lavish carbon]

.

[polar summit]

Can anyone dm me link of any china live gameplay?

[neon pebble]

T6 is a must. I cant find it but he is a talent character

Here T6

Dang, now I gotta T6 just to try him

[bold fog]

Woah

[crisp shuttle]

That is freaking crazy bro

That’s a potential 300% damage bonus WITHOUT artifacts

[bitter estuary]

oh

[signal spade]

whats the cd on his dr thing

[bitter estuary]

balls

[signal spade]

and duration

[twilit thistle]

😭 finally. One that isnt sub 40

😭

[sullen depot]

I haven’t been back in mines yet. Hopefully my luck rises soon too

[oblique geyser]

Is it possible/hard to detonate précision shinka on ikora ?

[sullen depot]

Posssible yes. Willl u spend eternity trying to do it, also yes

[oblique geyser]

😮‍💨

Impossible to get through 113 précision rn.. HH just doesnt do the job anymore

[sharp talon]

its easier to break rapid fire with wardcliff than precision with ikora

[oblique geyser]

I tried with Efri and Borealis / magoichi but 4-5 ammo to break one shield when there are like 6/7 ennemies per room

[crisp shuttle]

Yesterday I got 5 exotics artifacts, all 5 stars, and all 5 on my wish list (2 of the same one) luck was on point then

[sullen depot]

Yeah u have prolly just reached the plateau at this point I think

[neon pebble]

You switch up arti to pure weapon damage yet?

[rotund flame]

I thought it was for sidearms only? Or at least that's what a different translation said

[oblique geyser]

Tried everything, calming token, axion, bellicose etc..

[crisp shuttle]

Still insane damage given side arm is his main weapon

[neon pebble]

Dang bro, maybe just sleep on it and hit it with a fresh mind tomorrow

[oblique geyser]

The problem is ammo.. you have to dump at least 2 to 3 arba ammo per shield and you arrive in room 3 with maximum 13 ammo

[oblique geyser]

Ahah im stuck here since some days, i just made few tries with efri yday thats all

[neon pebble]

Jaren

[twilit thistle]

I was more proud of discovering something other than ning+comet+boxer. Umeko+flaming roomba+boxer is a big achievement for me.

[oblique geyser]

I thought about Jaren also y.. but i dont like Jaren 🤣

[sharp talon]

im ngl 91 impact on ikora is harder than 93 impact

i keep dying to these centurions. i had to restart my run because i didnt start with void annihilation on 95 😭

[oblique geyser]

The problem is you have to break one précision shinka, Jaren could maybe do it in a minute but behind 2 giant minotaur that shoot laser and that are close by so not much room to hide..

[sharp talon]

is it solar shield?

or void

[oblique geyser]

This tech is bs really.. the amount of dmg you can pull at start of room thx to that..🥀

[oblique geyser]

Void ofc

So not best for Jaren i guess

[sharp talon]

yea his void shotty sucks

[oblique geyser]

I have a good void shotgun but still.. will need a Sh#t tons of ammo

I have crackling perk, which sound nice for counter no?

[sharp talon]

yea

[oblique geyser]

2 more bullet shot per shot

More counter i gueds

[sharp talon]

still void shotty kinda sucks

even my spino thermo does much more damage than my fraternity thermo roll

so counter cant completely carry u

[regal gulch]

Insane dmfmg what have you been watching?

We were watching a Chinese guy play him

And hid flashy af but kinda under power for dmg

He looks super cool though with his abilities

[sharp talon]

that tech with ability comet is crazy

[plucky geode]

even at t6?

[stark forge]

well insane dmg compare to water gun concerto

[frozen nimbus]

Can you send me a link of the stream?

[twilit thistle]

Holds up on the durability test too. I cant wait to test this when its steel plate.

[neon pebble]

Lowkey may just wait for the next arc

Arcs wpn dmg. Voids ability dmg, solar is worst of both

[warm phoenix]

Please, when is the pirate rebanner

Gwynn got one, so everyone should be getting one right?

[fresh moat]

Theoretically yes

[warm phoenix]

I need her, SO BAD

[thorny frost]

Hate Arablast for damage comparison XD had a Kabr out damage me… but did like no damage to the boss or base units.

[warm phoenix]

Been saving in hopes that she’d return

[twilit thistle]

[twilit thistle]

Nerf lucy

[thorny frost]

No nerfs for you. Must suffer being able to solo 11+

[twilit thistle]

lmao

[twilit thistle]

I hope the next one is like that. i was half awake doing that.

[hexed hatch]

link?

[thorny frost]

I don’t have the patience to try and get to that point atm XD. Don’t think I would even want to try soloing with HH.

[thorny frost]

Even with a link I don’t know if I would trust what streamers are putting up unless they are known

[hexed hatch]

they will come up with screnshots of video but like last time with efri but id prefer before downtime

[warm phoenix]

But when is the pirate lady getting a rebannef

[hexed hatch]

months many

[thorny frost]

If they continue in order…about 15 weeks?

[warm phoenix]

Wake me up in 15 weeks

[glad anvil]

Yooooo wsp

Haven't played since 2025 I'm back now 💪

[crisp shuttle]

How much do I have to save for Tan-2

[sharp talon]

chiaroscuro is my favorite artifact now

[bitter estuary]

your balls

how is it good balls

[sharp talon]

100% uptime 25% dr for all range

[bitter estuary]

ill try

balls

[visual rain]

dont

[tawdry niche]

Is there a setting to autorun when playing on emulator?

[worldly hazel]

Bro they made it so you can’t eggplant emoji lol

[rotund flame]

Nah for real? It's so over then 💀

[dusty spire]

Pulling today 😬

[crisp shuttle]

Which should I go for then

[visual rain]

definitely ikora

tan is completely irrelevant, ning has niche use for speedrunning, jolder can actually be quite good, kabr is kabr, and ikora is undeniable the goat of spread/add clear

[bitter estuary]

ikora

i have tan-2 built

[crisp shuttle]

Already have Ning, should’ve said that

[bitter estuary]

his kit is so clunky it effectively makes him slower to clear ads compared to umeko

[crisp shuttle]

Damn, I don’t like playing impractical though 🥲

[visual rain]

umeko is just a better tan really

in like every way other than she obviously doesnt heal

cus tan is replaced by helhest for support

[crisp shuttle]

Should I wait for a reset on it do you think?

[bitter estuary]

attal is decent but until ted gets fixed i think she's also one decent piercing char

[bitter estuary]

just save up elemental condensates

[crisp shuttle]

Mkay, I already have a good amount saved up

I guess I should level up Ning then since I already have him?

[bitter estuary]

i dont know really

he doesn't deal much damage imo

[visual rain]

ning isnt too good anymore

hes only ever been good at speedruns

and calamity doesnt exist anymore and theres better chars now

[crisp shuttle]

So basically

Just stick with wolf and save up until better things drop

[bitter estuary]

ironically wolf does more dps than ning in my experience

[crisp shuttle]

Same, lol

Why I never bothered grinding for him yet

[bitter estuary]

bis gun btw

[crisp shuttle]

Got to 30k power with him and switched back to wolf early on

[bitter estuary]

artifacts

[bitter estuary]

lol

[crisp shuttle]

My bad 46k

[bitter estuary]

wrongful ingress is the worse AR

use sworn oath instead

[crisp shuttle]

Why?

[crisp shuttle]

I’m pretty sure I’m doubling up on damage types then

I want void for my main cause then I have arc void and solar damage for vs shielded enemies

[bitter estuary]

this is better

[bitter estuary]

yes and no

you only want to focus on the best gun in the early game

and then build up your arsenal for the endgame stuff

[sharp widget]

upgrade your artifact bro

[bitter estuary]

not worth it tbh

bro isnt level 90 yet

[bold fog]

wrong exotic bro

[bitter estuary]

atleast you got 1 jaren condensate

[crisp shuttle]

Not high enough level it won’t let me, maxed out for my level, lol

Only been playing the game for 3 days

[bitter estuary]

tbh you can bruteforce things while being underleveled anyways

[dusty spire]

When you T6 a hero does it give you all illustrations? Or do you still have to pull to complete them?

[crisp shuttle]

Exactly what I’ve been doing to grind exotics

[frozen nimbus]

Tariq vid is on youtube

[inner nest]

Thanks

[frozen nimbus]

Again no cosmetics 😭

[inner nest]

Guys are customers support functional ? Its been 2 weeks with no update on my bugged seals

[obtuse chasm]

Which seal

[inner nest]

I cannot gild the legendary campaign, realm of the ix and cannot get the seal of gauntlet onslaught

[sharp talon]

no but u can buy with lumia for very cheap

60 for card or something

[dusty spire]

Thanks for this

[inner nest]

Two of em have unlisted/missing challenge and two cannot progress at all

[inner nest]

.

[obtuse chasm]

Which specific challenges are you unable to do

Like what’s the req

[inner nest]

Will send it to u now

[crisp shuttle]

Bruh

I swear it will not go my way

There is no way it’s not weighted to give me sniper rifle

Lmfao

[inner nest]

Sent you on dm

Idk i cannot share pics here for sorm reason

[crisp shuttle]

Have to be a certain level on the server

Made that way to prevent spam

[inner nest]

I see

[obtuse chasm]

I’ll check after work fam busy rn

Wait so is tariq a hunter?

[inner nest]

Oh no worries take all the time u need bud 🤜🤛

[lean burrow]

anyone that has screenshots of the new bp sidearms?

[dusty spire]

All I got atm

[frozen nimbus]

Double jump yes

[wide dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-gif-1332198805481539447

What is his power weapon ?

[dusty spire]

Ngl love it

Group up is exactly what we need with this 😬

[elder wing]

[dusty spire]

😬

[balmy crown]

get back to the mines fam

[bold fog]

ye that's clowny

babe the character's been around 10 years now

[lilac spindle]

Hey guys how's the new character

[tender mist]

cry

[lilac spindle]

oh.

[sage nymph]

Why i feel like his gameplay is so weird 😭

[dusty spire]

Depends what you mean we have seen the style before tbf.

He’s a CC damage dealer

Pulls crowed together and provides a barrier

[bold fog]

impact + pull
gonna need a big range on that

[lilac spindle]

but do you think he'll provide good value in raids or nah?

[dusty spire]

He’s close ranged to mid

Most definitely

The barrier and then his style is just viable

[lilac spindle]

what do you guys value for raids

[sage nymph]

I mean, we've got hairkora, do we really need another one that's solar? And he doesn't look defense at all

[lilac spindle]

or are raids in this game cakewalks?

[dusty spire]

Many solar is a solars lunch

Just like any other element and their match

[bold fog]

it was hell on contest mode, but it's usually a mechanic and survival issue not dps

[lilac spindle]

could u tell me where that is? im lwk new to bluestacks

[tender mist]

the raids dont even feel like raids. I did all of onslaught and didnt even realize that was supposed to be the "raids" lol

[bold fog]

if this blocks shots like rossi, it's gonna be really really good
cause u sometimes are stuck out of cover

[tender mist]

i was thniking to myself "how do i unlock the raids" lol

[lilac spindle]

oh that's sort of disappointment

[dusty spire]

Did you the the hunt version?

[tender mist]

they are in like 3 piece chunks

no i just started like a month ago im not even sure what that means tbh. is that contest

[dusty spire]

Because that was the legit raid difficulty

The one your playing now is what we would use to get an idea of the mechanics

[bold fog]

yeah this is baby mode

[dusty spire]

Leaderboard rush when it is fresh can be a challenge like the originals

[bold fog]

no ring of death

[tender mist]

i didnt mean like. difficulty. just the way its presented in the menu i didnt realize it was supposed to be the raids

[dusty spire]

Oh lol

[tender mist]

altho yeah they are pretty easy as long as you have ppl with thumbs

[lilac spindle]

what if no thumb

[dusty spire]

Gonna feel weird playing Hunter

[lilac spindle]

what weapons does the new guy use

[tender mist]

then no "this glyph is correct" and wipe

[lilac spindle]

i havent been able to get on the game

[tender mist]

side arm and heavy gl

[lilac spindle]

oh god , please tell me its not a plate simulator

[dusty spire]

Side arms/ heavy grenade launcher relic dual blades

[tender mist]

no its balls and symbols

or well the new one is

the wish one w the ahamkara

[lilac spindle]

yay i love balls

[lilac spindle]

vault all over again?

[frozen nimbus]

New bp weapons perks are about burning and buffs after reloading

[grizzled sentinel]

Kinda but also much less convoluted

[tender mist]

vault of glass? i mean you do have teams seperated in different places i guess like mars and venus

but idk i dont think it feels much like vog

[lilac spindle]

i mean lw vault

[tender mist]

ohhhh

[lilac spindle]

is there vog in this game 😍

[grizzled sentinel]

No

[vocal hawk]

Not currently.

[grizzled sentinel]

As of now no, especially with Kabr and crew still alive and kicking, maybe when we get pahanim and praedyth

[vocal hawk]

However, we do have the man who eventually becomes the Aegis, so...Vault of Glass is kind of on the table.

[tender mist]

wow got me digging into my memory banks i hjavent done a LW in like. 5 years or something

[dusty spire]

Nostalgia hits heavy here

Tap in

[tender mist]

hey man i was duoing kings fall and vog like 2 months ago or so it was a good time

[lilac spindle]

yeah its kinda why i asked

i do like that it's actually kabr but it doesnt look like anything like d2 kabr

[bold fog]

kabr super is even the vog shield pop tho

[grizzled sentinel]

Lowman raids are fun, i like doing my stuff and knowing there will be ammo bricks on the floor

[lilac spindle]

lw lwk peak except vault , fuh vault

[vocal hawk]

We also had a version of Crota, so reprised raids are on the table.

[lilac spindle]

true , i did duo vog few months ago and was fun

except gatekeeper

[vocal hawk]

Key word had, it's out of rotation.

[lilac spindle]

oh fuh

wait so we only have A raid per rotation

[grizzled sentinel]

Yeah that's a colossal shame

[tender mist]

i came back in renegades after not playing since beyond light and my duo i met on d1 launch day didnt wanna lfg at this point in the games life cycle lol. so we learned some duos and trios

[grizzled sentinel]

✋👀🤚

[tender mist]

wish wed done DP before john chunk got removed but we were burnt out by the time we thought about it

[lilac spindle]

have u done ron trio? i did it on wish and it was legit so chill

[tender mist]

yep. did about 45 of them to get a shotgun for all 3 of us

[grizzled sentinel]

Lfg so dry i might have to solo ron to farm for the set bonus 😭

[bold fog]

im sorry u missed out on peak campaign worst year final shape, and peak strand

[grizzled sentinel]

(Not that i mind, i enjoy soloing stuff)

[lilac spindle]

do we know ab the set bonuses for all raids and dungeon

[grizzled sentinel]

Nope, all we know is each one is getting something unique

[lilac spindle]

vog is also a fun low man

[tender mist]

i wish id come back in witch queen tbh but it is what it is. i got a solid like. 1500 hours in reneagdes just this season so lol.

[grizzled sentinel]

Until you want to do solo flaw

[lilac spindle]

should've been out with edge of fate lwk

[grizzled sentinel]

Then it becomes rng simulator for GKs being possible at all and coinflip sim at atheon

[tender mist]

tbh i dont rly like it. altho duo and trio atheon is feet on desk

[lilac spindle]

ive done the first like 3 encounters solo flaw but thats not much of a achievment

[vocal hawk]

No, as far as I'm aware we still have Eclipse Monolith available.

[tender mist]

cant remember his name but i was watching some big low manner do a bunch of raids in a row solo flaw and he saved vog till last for the memes lol. horr4ible idea but funny

[grizzled sentinel]

I mean it's still solo raid encounters

[vocal hawk]

Just Crota's left. It was a time limited thing due to IX shenanigans

[bold fog]

got lightsaber so that's worth it but i just feel tired

[lilac spindle]

true but when wormgod caress is doing nuke type damage , solo'ing aatraks isint that good tbh

[grizzled sentinel]

You're confusing vog with dsc

Atraks is in dsc

[lilac spindle]

im using dsc as a comparison

[tender mist]

was a fun season imo but not fun enough to no life for 3 extra months lol. so im just doing my weeklies now

[grizzled sentinel]

Still an accomplishment imo, regardless of when it's done

Anything that takes you time to practice should be cherished as an achievement

[bold fog]

it's somehow dead and fomo
cause each season new public armor set effect

[vocal hawk]

I am really pondering whether I want to come back for the next update. My clan basically disbanded after gear tiers became a thing, so I don't have a raid group, and gear levels were...bad.

[sharp talon]

i saw someone post a ss of crota menu in s4, it was completely bugged

[tender mist]

bro me and my duo both came back in renegades so we didnt play last season, and when we saw all the weapons and armor from last season that we couldnt get the fomo hit HARD

thankfully baldy sold mint and unfall and stuff now

[grizzled sentinel]

I started my solo raid journey during heresy for reference, i cleared solo flaw ron in ash and iron and recleared this season for the recording, but the first clear is the one i care about the most

[tender mist]

pantless witness or no trophy

[lilac spindle]

what

pantless is crazy

[grizzled sentinel]

Witness no lucky pants

[tender mist]

no lucky pants

[lilac spindle]

whats the start for 2nd enc of ron soloo?

im guessing spamming well or shatter skate

[bold fog]

wait he gave mint?! nice!

[tender mist]

yeah like 3 weeks ago he had a rly rly good one.

[grizzled sentinel]

You don't need skating, if you look at my YT you can see me doing it on pure strandlock

It's all a matter of having a good route

[lilac spindle]

ah okay i didnt remenber the time being tht generous

[tender mist]

hes had that GL i forget the name, unfall rocket sidearm, mint, mida macro tool and this week he has lionfish the fusion rifle. hes had lat season stuff like. 4 weeks in a row now

[lilac spindle]

i was guessing pris lock with the buddies would be good there ig

[grizzled sentinel]

It is when weavewalk becomes green icarus dash

[grizzled sentinel]

I mean yeah it is, i just prefer having movement

I do not trust the launchers in that raid

[lilac spindle]

oh you had grapple and stuff

[grizzled sentinel]

Yeah grapple eager sword tsteps weavewalk

John movement

[bold fog]

damn

im so mad i still only have a t4

[tender mist]

hes making his way thru last seasons weapons now it seems so if you need anything still be sure to check weekly what he has.

[grizzled sentinel]

Skating is definitely the way if you can do it consistently, i can't get it consistent so i did it my way

[tender mist]

hes repeated items this season alrdy he might have it again possibly

[bold fog]

idk just want mint
it's too op over sidearm sets

[tender mist]

i just use the sidearms cause i wanna lol. i love them

[grizzled sentinel]

We should be getting a way to focus EoF portal loot with the june update, no confirms yet tho sadly

[tender mist]

i think they added like ciphers or something to the api when renegades dropped

that should be used for that5 i think

[grizzled sentinel]

That is correct

[dusty spire]

Apparently HH can cook with the new void LFR is this true?

[grizzled sentinel]

Starting next week we should start getting june news

Hopefully we get something

[tender mist]

i jut hope shattered cycle is still coming out lol. surely alchemist at least is canceled

[grizzled sentinel]

No news on cancelations or anything

All we know is that the june update won't be called shadow and order

They said so when they announced the delay

[tender mist]

i find it hard to believe everything on the old road map is still coming otherwise why delay the promised new one for so long

[lilac spindle]

mint the goat

[lilac spindle]

destiny lwk needs a reset cuz they have delayed sm stuff

[lean burrow]

probably cause they moved devs to marathon before launch

[lilac spindle]

reset as in a brand new road map , idk

[tender mist]

d3 is the only chance for this franchise to survive at this point and thats prob still not enough to do it

[lilac spindle]

i agree

[tender mist]

is what it is at this point

[lilac spindle]

yeah its just sad

we're just gonna farm the same mf weapons again and yeah whatever

[lean burrow]

the only hope is it's in early development and that they don't rush it.

[lilac spindle]

not to be negative nancy but lwk if we dont have a really high high the game's gonna probably tank even more

[lilac spindle]

they should also communicate with us , they kinda dont talk ab anything related if there is , isint or could have destiny 3

[tender mist]

rly just no chance d2 recovers player count. i love destiny a lot and would love that but i rly cant fathom any possiblity of that

its just too late

[lilac spindle]

true

they should've just stopped after final shape

[lean burrow]

yeah for sure i'd rather have an early teaser than nothing, something like Elder scrolls 6

[tender mist]

bungie has to survive as a studio for that to even happen tbh. marathon is not doing well either so hopefully sony doesnt just shut them down

i douybt sony rly wants to throw millions at bungie atm

[bold fog]

so much sony regret
"what did you do with the billion dollars we gave you"
"bought cars, fired staff, killed the game, moved the last staff to a new game, killed it too"

[lean burrow]

after spending 3.6 billion for them? i don't think so

bungie'd biggest problem is its management

[tender mist]

i mean if the studio is making pitiful money you cant just throw tons of money at them and hope it gets better when its this bleak tbh

at some point you have to move on

or make them a support studio or sopmething lol

[lilac spindle]

how long has that been announced

[lean burrow]

8 years i believe

[solar arch]

.

[heady obsidian]

I'm salty rn

[dusty spire]

What tier you get up to?

[neon pebble]

Updoot when

[dusty spire]

Many solar fulminator when

[sharp talon]

would be fire for jaren as well

[dusty spire]

Team up gonna be nuts

[sharp talon]

but we havent had foundry for so long

[dusty spire]

gonna go all in with Tariq

I don’t mind foundry

It’s my favourite

[sharp talon]

yea last time we had it maru was in rotation

[dusty spire]

It has a great length to it

And the mob room is insanely fun

[sharp talon]

i dont remember is it longer than the new strike that was in cordon lats cycle?

i think i havent played foundry since last season 💀

[dusty spire]

Umm not sure but I feel it has a good instance of fighting

I think it’s one of the only runs that have melee based mobs too?

[sharp talon]

is it?

[dusty spire]

Above base ect

The melee wielding

[sharp talon]

only remember cabal shooting at me 🤣

[dusty spire]

Double axe

[sharp talon]

ic yea

[dusty spire]

That’s a anti range mob on higher difficulty you don’t wanna get cornered by one as ranged I bet

Swear it grabs you too lol

[lethal dome]

Im 3 away from pulling efrideet will it stay on 3 pulls after the update? It's kicked me off the game so I can't pull now?

[heady obsidian]

well good game LMAOOO

[last gulch]

T.T

[vocal hawk]

Limited banners share pity, yes.

You will have 3 until Tariq.

[lethal dome]

Ohhhhhhh thats better then hopefully!

[dusty spire]

Wait wth ?

Nah it you bought previous bp you should be able to complete it

Just like MR what’s neteas playing with

[empty turtle]

Probably didn't play much

Just buy levels

[dusty spire]

:/ still

[heady obsidian]

took a break during phase 2 yeah

[heady obsidian]

that should not be the solution

and also the game is down lmao

[empty turtle]

Well it's your fault though

[dusty spire]

It’s premium

[heady obsidian]

i never said it wasn't

[empty turtle]

Then what should be the solution??

[heady obsidian]

i never said there was a problem to begin with???

[dusty spire]

Anyone who has bought a previous battle pass should be able to complete it

[heady obsidian]

all I said was good game

[empty turtle]

Huh??

[empty turtle]

..

[dusty spire]

They do it in marvel rivals

So long I’ve bought it I can go back and complete it, if I don’t well then I have no access

I stress and I believe you should be able to revisit paid content

[heady obsidian]

I was saying "pay more money" should never be the solution to "thing I bought is almost done but they kicked me off before i could squeak out the last bit"

[dusty spire]

Just my opinion

[heady obsidian]

that's literally all there was to it

[empty turtle]

It's a limited time event, it literally shows you

[dusty spire]

Also it closed before the actual timer ended

I believe players still had a hour on the clock

[heady obsidian]

it did yeah

[dusty spire]

If anyone can confirm

[empty turtle]

Bruh ....... You had 40 days to complete it

[dusty spire]

So yeah that’s a problem

Yeah and still had a extra hour on the clock

Could have made or done what ever was necessary in that time

Ngl I’d be vexed if it said I had a hour and then maintenance closed shop on me

[heady obsidian]

the challenges are not good enough for anyone who isn't on the game super often

[south agate]

Base artif stats needs a rework, getting 4 artifacts with 4x +45 and having them be specifically the artifacts you need for a single character is ridiculous

[heady obsidian]

if you were to just do the challenge of do 3 adventures for 50 XP via singularity: chaos

it would take 900 stages

[dusty spire]

Ok I go prep lunch and get ready for the mines

[south agate]

Fun fact, the Chaos Event that’s been running for the past week requires 2001 stages to get all 100 reward crates, if the cost does not increase every x crates synthesized.

[empty turtle]

23 stages per day

[heady obsidian]

..if you were farming from the first day

remember that there was also a weekly XP cap

and the entire season had you doing other chores

[empty turtle]

Pretty sure there are other challenges

[south agate]

This is without accounting for double/triple rewards, but the point still stands it requires 667 reward claims from Chaos to get the 2000 frags required.

[heady obsidian]

which also take doing other things that could take even longer

like the only slightly better one was 75 XP for 3 daily commissions but that had to be done DAILY

and you could only do that Once per day

[empty turtle]

😐 you just have to play the game

[heady obsidian]

It's perfectly doable for sure but that would mean forsaking every other aspect of the game unless you are extremely active

[surreal berry]

👍

[empty turtle]

Why buy the BP if you aren't going to be active??

[heady obsidian]

do you think i knew i was gonna be burnt out the second phase 2 hit

[hollow gazelle]

Did we get new artis or nah

[heady obsidian]

it's really not that crazy man

[empty kettle]

Nah

[dusty spire]

It’s not a matter of being active imo they have paid for the content

They should be able to complete it imo

Fomo for a bp is outdated

[dusty spire]

No way

[hollow gazelle]

Ok is the bp exotic at least good?

[dusty spire]

It works for solar

[hollow gazelle]

Wdym for solar

[empty kettle]

On Tariq yes

[heady obsidian]

i haven't even gotten into that part yeah, i don't get why we've gotten so accustomed to letting corporations put their crap covered mining boots in our mouth and forcing us to shine them with our tongues. like why are we refusing to have our cake and eat it too

[south agate]

Imo it’s ridiculous NetEase expects us to do 2000+ chaos stages in 2 weeks for the event rewards

[dusty spire]

Tariq is a solar Gwynn

In a similar way

[hollow gazelle]

So its not great on gwynn?

[south agate]

Isnt he fusion + gl?

[dusty spire]

So in reverse she should be able to combo the bp for solar break

[south agate]

Or is he sidearm?

[sweet forge]

It's even more than 2k

[empty kettle]

Sidearm

[dusty spire]

Side arm / gl

[surreal berry]

Burnt out 🥵 🔥 🪫

Them giving us a 7 day event of free rewards collecting from chaos… that place became purgatory for MATERIAL FARMER and ARTIfact farmers and cosmetic farmers (cosmetic engram).

[south agate]

Do the chests increase in price?

[dusty spire]

That’s my boi

[sweet forge]

yes

[dusty spire]

That’s my boi

[heady obsidian]

I assumed it was bc they didn't intend for you to, they just set it to 100 as a random number cap to make it "unlimited"

[dusty spire]

Got jaren aura too

[south agate]

Okay I only calculated 2001 for the 100 crates at 20 shard cost

That’s legit ridiculous if it also increases in price

[dusty spire]

@empty kettle we gotta flex up with our jaren mains

[heady obsidian]

wow that is actually just gwynn's 1 LMAOOO

[south agate]

The rewards aren’t even that good

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[dusty spire]

Solar Gwynn

[surreal berry]

U needed to open them b4 the timer/maintenance.

[dusty spire]

Impact is close CC

[south agate]

I didnt go for them past 10 of them

I opened them lol

[heady obsidian]

I got like 2 because you couldn't do them if you didn't have multiple characters at like what was it almost 90k

which, again, if you tuned out for literally even a week

[dusty spire]

As for ray ray situation this needs to be suggested

[sweet forge]

good for you the real grind starts after 20

[heady obsidian]

you basically got screwed over

[dusty spire]

Bitter taste to me as a community player

I don’t like it

[hollow gazelle]

U only need 1 char for chaos?

Just upgrade anyome with decent mobility and ur good

[south agate]

The only worthwhile reward was the Occ Essence and the engrams simply for the ascend currency. Once I realized that the grind vs reward was not worth, I stopped

[thorny obsidian]

Only need Effy for the whole game basically 😂

[surreal berry]

Yeh.. I couldn’t farm for my life… otherwise I would have exhausted my time on my phone 📱 🎮 or my XBOX Ally

[hollow gazelle]

I mean ideally youd want a faster char for chaos but efri works

[dusty spire]

Many solar void

[south agate]

Ngl I built up Jaren and do not regret it, he solos Pierce and Impact to 50 with ease

[dusty spire]

Will be interesting

[fossil horizon]

So still no fix for AMD? I just woke up and tried to read the notes.

[thorny obsidian]

Yeah jaren build is good aswell

[jagged osprey]

@dusty spire Mr Tariq’s tiered upgrades are definitely strong. I read through them all

[south agate]

Again, my main issue currently is Expanse being a requirement for phase upgrades post Phase 6

[sweet forge]

What do you mean

[sharp talon]

isnt it 65 req rn

[dusty spire]

Yup I’m happy, I’ve only seen the first 3 do you have the others?

[south agate]

Esp knowing a solar character is coming and a lot of the burns will now change (hopefully)

[surreal berry]

I didn’t have the resources for more TTREE… but I do need to build ARTI for Jarren and search some more shotguns for him.

[thorny obsidian]

Only required stage 65 for next week🤷🏻‍♂️

[hollow gazelle]

Idk i got to 50 with only 100k on gwynn

[sharp talon]

i just checked i did all 70 almost 3 weeks ago 💀

[south agate]

Oh so AFTER they make Expanse below power 90% of the time starting Phase 6, do they reduce that requirement

[fossil horizon]

Unless I role back amd drivers the current amd driver crashes the game constantly. Which wasn't an thing in the past.

[south agate]

That is ridiculous

[sharp talon]

i was significantly under power when i did all 70 3 weeks ago

[thorny obsidian]

Think it keeps going up by 5 a week maybe?

[south agate]

With what char?

[sharp talon]

Jaren and ikora

[hollow gazelle]

The reccomended power was like 113k and it was doable

[thorny obsidian]

You are build different brother 😂😂

[south agate]

The rewards aren’t worth past VI of endless expanse

[south agate]

HOW? I AM RUNNING META JAREN

AND I AM STRUGGLING AT 60??!

[sharp talon]

isnt it solar? that one is supposed to be easy

which expanse

[thorny obsidian]

Easy chunk of essence🤷🏻‍♂️ couple choice engrams🤷🏻‍♂️

[south agate]

I meant 50 last phase, cause that was arc (impact)

[south agate]

The choice engrams sure, the occultation essence is virtually useless since you get so little

[sharp talon]

what is the element for you now?

[surreal berry]

I’m sure they did it slowly… didn’t care how long it took… as long they were able to kill… underpowered or not

[south agate]

Well 60 is indeed solar. Just havent bothered yet cause I need to get some prisms for Emanare first

[sharp talon]

yea impact 60 is very easy

[thorny obsidian]

Nah. @sharp talon is just a GOAT

[south agate]

But last week I was struggling on the captain boss with max emanare using TED

[bold fog]

When does gwynn pool expire

[sharp talon]

u cant do that, u will time out in expanse

[surreal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/buttermilk-goat-parkour-fight-annoyed-gif-26868303

[south agate]

All I am missing on my base Jaren is all my artifacts at base stat 45. They’re at an average of like 41

But that grind is just ridiculously annoying

[hollow gazelle]

Whats ur power?

[sharp talon]

ikora is better than jaren now tbh. 93 rapid fire only possible on ikora rn, 96 impact as well

[south agate]

Currently? Keep in mind I havent maxed my emanare yet cause I’ve been unlucky with crystals (still got 3 mythics in it) at 106.5k

[jagged osprey]

@dusty spire

[south agate]

Just high enough for 60-63

[surreal berry]

How can blast dmg do rapid fire?…

[south agate]

Wardcliff my beloved

[sharp talon]

93 doesnt require the shinka to be killed

but yea with wardcliff u can even pop rapid fire

[south agate]

It’s like the exotic SG (octant I think?) being able to pop spreads in altfire

Ridiculous but funny

[surreal berry]

I got got catalyst 2 & 3…

[sage nymph]

93 is dps check heavy, he's probably saying ikora clear easly with heavy dmg

[empty kettle]

The more tiers you get on him, the stronger he becomes

[south agate]

I just have good memories from Wardcliff because of D2

[sage nymph]

but even i don't see a world she clears tho

[hollow gazelle]

Im either gonna invest wardcliff or new sidearms

[surreal berry]

Same

[south agate]

So finally a talent tree that functions like a talent tree should?

[sharp talon]

i did a few attempt today, last yellow bar is extremely low

on na, ikora is on 96 rapid fire

[sage nymph]

damn

[jagged osprey]

Yeah. I would have pulled deep for him if he was not spread or piercing tbh

[sharp talon]

ikora is just the 2nd best char in the game no contest

90 impact+ is solar but im using ikora instead

[empty kettle]

His entire talent tree basically adds dmg and some quality of life

[south agate]

Dûl Incaru loves them Dubious Volleys

Iykyk

[heady obsidian]

why are we reduxing existing character abilities and changing them slightly and then saying it's a new character. we're 4 seasons in this cannot be this desperate

[azure saffron]

Is there a better way to farm for weapon prisms than Morgran?

[south agate]

Tell that to Icarus Dash, my poor Twilight Garrison

[heady obsidian]

not only that but there's also like 30 supers in the original D2 game not even counting the versions in D1

i think we can figure something out here

why do we have two arc staff hunters

[azure saffron]

not to mention stasis and strand, or their own non light abilities

[south agate]

Tbh Arcstrider has Gathering Storm and Arc Staff, which is roaming and throwing, just like Ning and Efri

[heady obsidian]

i mean yeah but that's still the arc staff

[azure saffron]

true, we are covered on arc hunters now unless they do the new super from Final shape

[hollow gazelle]

Efris is more like a spear tbh

[heady obsidian]

arc hunter even has the other weird thing with knives

[empty kettle]

Blade dancers

[heady obsidian]

it's the same arc staff called arc staff in D2

[south agate]

It makes sense that Efri has gathering storm. Her lore talks about her throwing Saladman with such arc energy they created the thundercrash. She’s well trained in throwing Arc things

Ning Fei is just a glorified bladedancer tho

[hollow gazelle]

I mean not really it looks quite different and its a lot closer to gathering storm

[heady obsidian]

i understand it might make sense lore wise but gameplay wise it's a bit boring

[azure saffron]

give us a hive titan Dredgen Yor but the transformed his auto rifle instead of his hand cannon

[heady obsidian]

the gathering storm staff is the same arc staff

[south agate]

Gathering Storm is legit the same arc staff being thrown

[regal gulch]

So what yall think he gonna be op

[hollow gazelle]

I mean her spear looks different to it

But yes in d2 they are the same

[south agate]

Her spear sign is not the same as her ult

[heady obsidian]

They did a good take on well of radiance, I don't see why they don't do the same with other supers

[regal gulch]

I think he will be unique and not really uses in hardcore end game stuff maybe cordon for grouping

[south agate]

Efri doesn’t throw her Relic in her ult, she throws a staff made of arc energy, aka the Arc Staff

[regal gulch]

We will see once meta build comes im curious how much dmg he will do

[south agate]

Tan is an interesting design-perspective. Would be cool if they did something similar for the shadowshot super

[hollow gazelle]

Ngl havent rlly played her so fair enough

[heady obsidian]

I was about to say, void hunter's bow is extremely iconic, I don't know how we haven't gotten that yet

[sharp talon]

i tihnk ikora will be better

ikora is just peak

[hollow gazelle]

But arc staff and gathering storm are still diff supers imo

[heady obsidian]

we don't even have an arc warlock. the one we have is literally just song of flame from D2 but arc

where's the emperor palpatine lightning super

[surreal berry]

Have the A memory When Using it in Leviathan Operation.

[remote flame]

it’s just a different spear, it’s still a spear

[heady obsidian]

where's chaos reach

[hollow gazelle]

I mean we got rossi😭

[south agate]

They are, no one says they arent. We’re just saying the tool used is the same staff in both

[empty kettle]

The tickle monster?

[heady obsidian]

yeah man there you go that guy

[hollow gazelle]

And ye attal feels like a solar arc char

[remote flame]

it’s not, but it doesn’t really matter what blender model they used lmao

it’s the same super

[hollow gazelle]

If they make 5 star version i feel like she would become solar

[heady obsidian]

where's blade barrage where's twilight arsenal where's the ICONS

theres so many aspects and abilities for each subclass too that can all be used as signatures

[south agate]

In Destiny 2 they are.

[heady obsidian]

considering we're 30 arc hunters deep now im surprised we don't have ascension

all we have is a goddamn dodge

[remote flame]

you said efri’s spear ult was a staff, it’s not

[surreal berry]

👀 Looks at Kabr.
Maru
Attal
Tan-2

[south agate]

My assumption is Eris Morn will have it (if they ever add her), she was a primarily Nightstalker and Gunslinger hunter who got sent out on scouting missions

[south agate]

A spear is a pointy staff

[azure saffron]

where is big hammer titan, ideally pyrogale version

[heady obsidian]

i was the one who said that and the point I was trying to make is they've used both arc hunter supers already before a lot of the icons

[heady obsidian]

that's supposedly finnala but that doesn't feel the same

[golden spade]

Ikora rapid with the new exotic arc rocket launcher right? Can i use that also for impact for ikora?

[south agate]

Storm’s Edge would be cool to implement, since the signature ability could be an arc whip or sumth

[sharp talon]

wardcliff can break rapid fire yes, but i dont recommend it. im using her on rapid fire cuz u dont need to break shinka on 93

im using truth for impact

[south agate]

Finnala isn’t the embodiment of Burning Maul tho.

[heady obsidian]

we literally have dedicated summons as a game function, I don't know how we don't have any of the D2 summons in the game yet. none of them

[south agate]

I love how they implemented bubble tho. WE CAN FINALLY SHOOT THROUGH IT

[heady obsidian]

there's no solar healing grenade turret, there's no child of the old gods, there's no arc soul, there's not even that weird thing from the strangers rifle

[south agate]

Jolder is a good representation of a bubble titan, even tho her character fits the role of sentinel shield more, and Saint-14 shouldve been the DR character with Bubble

[empty kettle]

for void titan

[heady obsidian]

yeah we got kabr's relic twice before sentinel shield like

[hollow gazelle]

Idk we dont need EVERYTHING from d2 in d rising, if u want that so bad just go play d2

[south agate]

What if the stranger’s rifle timepocket isn’t in DR because the bullets from the other timeline are the DR timeline

[heady obsidian]

What is this D2 icon erasure

[hollow gazelle]

Its a diff game

If u want d2 u can play it

[remote flame]

i think we should put rising in d2

make it p2w gacha

[heady obsidian]

yeah but the point is that the stuff they are putting out is very surface level and very quickly getting repetitive

[sharp talon]

add third person in d2

[hollow gazelle]

I personally like new stuff as ive played d2 for a long time

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-ltg-mods-fossilize-this-user-mods-gif-14547219816455503839

[heady obsidian]

I mean all of S3's characters were just reduxes of legendaries

[remote flame]

lmao

[south agate]

I’m quite certain thundercrash will come in the form of Radegast in the future. Burning Maul is probably gonna be Saladman but with an Axe, and Felwinter seems like a Nova Warp guy, since his helmet has void interactions

[heady obsidian]

we are never getting a playable radegast

[surreal berry]

Some Supers and Melee give u 3rd Person

[south agate]

But istg if they dont implement felwinter with a shoulder charge signature I’m throwing hands, since that is a very prominent feature in his lore, a warlock with shoulder charge abilities

[sharp talon]

ye i wanna play only in third person tho

like rising. i hate fps mode tbh

[south agate]

Swords put you in third person too.

[near fossil]

😳

[heady obsidian]

icarus dash isn't even in dr

[wide dagger]

Maintenance over ?

[empty kettle]

It looks like they are setting us up to kill Radeghast in a possible future

[azure saffron]

I don't get how people aim in third person, its so disorienting

[south agate]

In Heresy there was a glitch with swords that put you in 3rd person until the end of the activity

[heady obsidian]

like they don't need to copy everything but they're missing so many iconic lightbearer mainstays while repeating new things they already did

[south agate]

IcDash will be Osiris, that’s the most logical choice, as he’s been seen using it in every cutscene where he still has the light.

[heady obsidian]

so much of the lightbearer's toolkit is completely unused and they need to explore it more

[river vigil]

name the ones they are missing for the current time period

[sharp talon]

i saw ppl talking about an instant kill bug on tariq on the chinese server. wonder if they fixed it by now 🤣

[heady obsidian]

current time period doesn't work when we have two arc staff hunters

neither of which existed until the red war

[south agate]

Especially considering Daybreak has support for Icdash in D2

[heady obsidian]

well of radiance doesn't exist until forsaken

[south agate]

And Osiris uses Daybreak a lot in lore

[heady obsidian]

gathering storm doesn't exist until almost lightfall

[river vigil]

it does work one has a javelin one uses a bo staff

[hollow gazelle]

Daybreak but good would go hard

[river vigil]

felwinter used well of radiance when he was a warlord

[empty kettle]

Technically the shard of the traveler kept some kind of knowledge of the old subclasses supers and abilities

[brittle zodiac]

no cuz thats gonna be the reason why people will get him hahaha

[south agate]

TECHNICALLY not, Curse of Osiris’ vex fight scene with Osiris features him slamming a Daybreak blade into the ground to form the well of radiance

[south agate]

And this too

[heady obsidian]

but then what are we basing it off of, when they appeared in the games or when they appeared in the lore

[hollow gazelle]

Felwinter did also use void

[heady obsidian]

because literally anything could appear at any time

[sharp talon]

spread 120 tomorrow

[river vigil]

here's where I find out no one read the lore or remembers byfs videos

[brittle zodiac]

peak

[remote flame]

if i start maining jolder do i have to eat crayons :(

[south agate]

The lore, since DR takes place before the City Age and all of D2’s ability unlock moments are technically our Guardian learning them. Not necessarily them existing for the first time.

[river vigil]

for efrideet her entire character story revolved around her throwing javelins and lightbearers as javelins. I think they gave it to Ning fei because they thought it would fit his character

[heady obsidian]

then yeah, that's my point, them not appearing in the games until whatever time the devs thought of them for content doesn't mean they can't appear now

that's also a lame excuse to be lazy

[empty kettle]

Basically knowledge of how to wield the light in different ways being lost to time until we can slowly learn them

[south agate]

The throwing lightbearers is a nod to Efri and Saladman inventing the TCrash lol

They even hint at it during the quest when they reminisce about old times

[remote flame]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

[heady obsidian]

somehow reminded me that ikora is the only one who's used her super in D2 gameplay since the red war, when she closed a portal in WQ with chaos reach

[south agate]

Exactly. Technically the Darkness Subclasses have also existed far before the events of them being discovered. They were just only granted by the Darkness to select individuals until we came along

[heady obsidian]

Cayde used his in a cutscene in forsaken and I think in TFS

[regal gulch]

Ok boys gonna ask yall should I save fully atm I have 58k luma and 60 boats now should I t6 ef pr new character or will ef be power creep hard and new character doesn't seem to op in my mind but we will see atm im mainly using ikora t6

[river vigil]

dont sleep on saint casting bubble

[heady obsidian]

I meant of the vanguard trio

[south agate]

She opened the Mercury Infinite Forest portal with a VOID Chaos Reach, shows you her actual immense power

[golden spade]

Yo, I just read the messages posted for the last hour and you took over the chat.

I know the game is missing a lot, but the game is barely a year old

Remember destiny 2 implemented a lot of what u mentioned in multiple dlcs

Anyways we get the gist of what ure trying to say but can we talk about the new character or other topics?

[regal gulch]

Help me decide lol

[sharp talon]

new char is a spread, u already have t6 ikora the goat. prob save

[heady obsidian]

D2 implemented it over multiple DLCs yeah, but NetEase is still releasing a new character every month

[remote flame]

he looks like an npc

[heady obsidian]

that you pay money to gamble for

[hollow gazelle]

U can get every char f2p

[regal gulch]

I have ef fully built she fun for pvp but I feel like she doesn't need to be t6 to be crazy she can clear as t0 one of the more f2p characters I believe

[heady obsidian]

ok that was not the point

[river vigil]

True, maybe cayde would've used a super but forsaken happened

[jagged osprey]

This character is a grab one copy and move on tbh until we seee further gameplay

[sage nymph]

efri's gonna get powercreep obviously and new char looks like spread from what've seen. prob just save atp

[hollow gazelle]

Well u dont have get every char by paying money and gambling

[heady obsidian]

the point is NetEase is cranking these out rapidly and they still let you gamble for access, theres no reason they shouldn't do something new

[regal gulch]

Yeah I've been thinking that thanks guys

[empty kettle]

We lost so many lightbearers during the great disaster that some interesting ways to use the light was basically gone

[heady obsidian]

Bungie's situation is a lot different than NetEase, them releasing them at a much slower pace is because D2's sandbox is extremely wide so literally the slightest mishap can break the game

[hollow gazelle]

I mean tariq does seem like a filler char

But he has some unique aspects

[regal gulch]

Thanks too rawr im gonna hard save till a god tier support comes or rerun buffed hell

[heady obsidian]

balancing it is like balancing the haystack on the needle you're supposed to find

[regal gulch]

Because if they buff estella then that means all reruns will get buffed

[river vigil]

Thats giving them a lot of grace, dont they still have supers from D1 that havent came over to D2

[south agate]

Remember that in the DR timeline cayde might not be Cayde-6 yet, but one of Cayde-1 through 5

[sage nymph]

but i see a world where next chaos she'll be great, cuz chaos atm was made for the meta that we had like jaren iko and hh.

[heady obsidian]

are they rerunning estela?

[sharp talon]

helhest rerun and she gets buffed gg

just eos atp

[empty kettle]

Song singer revival mechanic

[heady obsidian]

no actually, they've all been ported over in some form

[south agate]

They reran Gwynn, they could possibly do Estela next act

[regal gulch]

Yes all reruns will come hopefully once estella gets rerun if she does then its confirmed

[river vigil]

True

[river vigil]

We still need sunsinger+fireborn to truly kill pvp

[heady obsidian]

inshallah.. there's rarely a reason to pull the new light banner, there should be multiple banners overlapping even if that means they last a lot longer

[sage nymph]

i noticed she was in the emanare selector like gwynn when it should've been new char, it's probably a hint of her rerun ye

[heady obsidian]

monkeys paw curls

[regal gulch]

Im new to destiny in general this my first one what are the weapons yall are talking about they op?

[surreal berry]

BUT!!!
WE HAVE JARREN

[river vigil]

I'm just waiting for rezyl azzir but then people will complain about another piercing character

[regal gulch]

Also rawr I still have my og choice chest lol

[south agate]

Bladedancer got brought in as Arcstaff. Shadowshot, Novabomb, Goldengun and Bubble got basically ported. Selfres warlock (sunsinger) became Song of Flame. The old single use arc titan fist of havoc became TCrash. Am I missing any?

[regal gulch]

Anyone still have the og choice chest?

[hollow gazelle]

Gimme felwinter with sidearms and crossbow or smth and give him shoulder charge

[regal gulch]

Gg new character is out

[hollow gazelle]

Or

[south agate]

All D1 supers have been brought back in some way in D2 with Song of Flame having been added. The other teleporting aspect from Bladedancer even returned as a feature of Storm’s Edge

[hollow gazelle]

Give an actual titan shoulder charge

[sage nymph]

isn't he a shotgun user tho?

[south agate]

Give felwinter shoulder charge. He was known to be a warlock who was able to shouldercharge

[south agate]

Felwinter’s Lie: “Am I a joke to you?”

[sharp talon]

from journey bundle? insane

[hollow gazelle]

Yeah but idk we need rapid and crossbow suits him

We dont need another void warlock with a shotgun

[regal gulch]

Also did you guys hear new character has an Invincible
and insta kill glitch

[river vigil]

at this point I think the only thing they are missing is the fireborn aspect

[sharp talon]

yea ultimate puts enemies under the map or something

[empty kettle]

Has a what?

[regal gulch]

Lol

Its a bug

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[sharp talon]

120 spread incoming

[river vigil]

Until its patched its a feature

[sage nymph]

bcz from what i remember felwinter is a void warlock but titan in mind. I can see a world where he has titan gameplay with shotty in dr

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[regal gulch]

Title card[ ]

Time for to wait 3 hours 🙁

[sharp talon]

it will prob be 1 hr - 30 minutes based on previous maintenances

[hollow gazelle]

Yeah but we dont need multiple impact void warlocks

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-the-immortal-wakes-up-gif-21382160

[sage nymph]

but we got multiple piercing tho 😭

[regal gulch]

Hairkora is already enough lol

No clue how they will top her

[hollow gazelle]

Yeah and thats not a good thing 😭

[regal gulch]

Ikora is the hell of her type

[sharp talon]

she does too much damage

[regal gulch]

Like so much lol

They will try to nerf her i feel

But I think she was supposed to be stronger look at her t6

60% dmg reduction

They did that on purpose they knew what they were making

Hopefully they dont nerf her

[river vigil]

O.o there's a tariq on floor 72 of spread on CN

There's only one but I have hope

[regal gulch]

Lol yeah he ain't beating stage 73-79

We call that the wall

[river vigil]

I'll find a way

[sharp talon]

what was 73 spread?

[regal gulch]

For all ikora players to prove skill

[thorny obsidian]

they aint nerfing her.. cant do that with a paid character according to chinese stuff

[sharp talon]

i dont even remember

[regal gulch]

Really nice

Means they won't buff her either then

Im fine with that lol

[regal gulch]

I forgot too lol

[polar summit]

Colossus, huge room

[regal gulch]

I just remembered it being insanely difficult on mobile to beat it