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[thorny frost]

Sorry 2,600 health… my bad

[sharp talon]

fix ted asap

[neon pebble]

You been nerfing yourself

You put Ikora>Jaren 😭

[bitter estuary]

its the things i noticed because I MAIN ATTAL

it literally pisses me off

[twilit thistle]

Balls. U upvoted mine. Gotchu

[bitter estuary]

balls

[bitter estuary]

i just agree with nearly everyone who posts there ngl

[twilit thistle]

🤷🏼‍♀️ it meant something to me

[sharp talon]

this is so dumb

if duel mark stacked with eternal death it would be amazing

[bitter estuary]

exactly

[twilit thistle]

I dont think ill ever see a power increase. I think they have gone extinct.

[sharp talon]

i still have to run ted with jaren i think

because it doubles ur shotty damage which is more than the ~8% damage taken buff

[bitter estuary]

true

[naive ingot]

[trim snow]

When can we play again next?

[sullen depot]

currently getting 4 stages /min on adept chaos. not bad

[waxen abyss]

how long it takes to patch a bug ? The orb to grab in Njorun raid is still bugged

[twilit thistle]

Time to get 50? If its below 13 mins lmk more about it.

Bad new for my solar comet + electrophoresis plans @indigo solar . The dot from solar comet is killing them, and isnt procing electrophoresis 😔

[half sun]

i wonder if they will rerun her

[twilit thistle]

same ning stuff as usual?

[vast arch]

which is better?

[sullen depot]

maxing executioner is def the play

[sullen depot]

weapon hit damage 40% is necessary for spread. i think right still better

[vast arch]

yeah thought so

[sullen depot]

but best to test in pracrtice range

[sharp talon]

i have the springwheel with weapon hit damage bonus i still prefer reduced reload time idk if its actually better

[sullen depot]

why reduce reload time on ikora? when u have skill

[sharp talon]

cuz u use the lgl so much to break impact shinka 😢

[twilit thistle]

Me seeing nobody pick up overload, knowing that comet does not go off of the dmg increases u get from those: || 😭lethal assult?! ||

[stark forge]

dmg bonus roll on all mod really needed for spread

[sharp talon]

when i switched off that for impact, it was significantly better for me

my personal exp tho

[stark forge]

spread dmg bonus not really work for impact weapons tho

[sharp talon]

when i did impact expanse with ikora

[signal spade]

whats the sauce for breaking the impact shields

with ikora

[stark forge]

just spam rocket

[polar summit]

So has China leaked Tarik’s kit yet?

[stark forge]

ofc dash to buff dmg too

[sharp talon]

yea spam truth, you have to do the majority of the rest with lgl

it takes a minute to break

[sullen depot]

spam truth and hope you kill the shinka in one go after breaking.

[stark forge]

i save all the heavy just for shinka only

[sharp talon]

damn u guys are breaking it with truth?? its not even half shield hp for me

[twilit thistle]

[stark forge]

i break with 2 tail 🤣

[sharp talon]

i dump like 24 shots

[sullen depot]

essentially. i save my rocket ammo to break if using ikora on impact. i use lgl for small mobs and stuff

[sharp talon]

i dont use any heavy until breaking and even save a brick

its not even half way

[stark forge]

prob high expanse thing

[vast arch]

chat it's actually possible!

[sharp talon]

i cant do it with the +40% hit damage bonus with lgl

u lose ur overshield when ur spamming ur lgl cuz u dont shoot fast enough

[sullen depot]

lol how many forges did it take

[twilit thistle]

I actually had one overwrite it too.

Imagine thinking it worked just to see it overwrite it

[vast arch]

first try I just decided to do it randomly while getting rid of some weapons

[stark forge]

i never seen it overwrite only fail

[vast arch]

First one that's ever been succesful though and I've done at least 25 other times on different guns

[twilit thistle]

only ones that work first time are the ones that are not god rolls.

Anything else it didnt seem to care about

[sullen depot]

oh this is a speedy run

[stark forge]

it seems harder to forge adept weapons for meta char

got all ar and mg adept while struggling to forge an adept bow or lgl

[sharp talon]

what is the chaos modifier?

not sure what is on na

[storm mural]

spike shell

[river vigil]

spike shell

[bitter estuary]

today emea/apac has spike shell

[twilit thistle]

@vast arch is it true base power maxes at 92-93k cuz iron commander

[storm mural]

what if we kissed in issakis boss fight?

[vast arch]

yes

[bitter estuary]

balls

[signal spade]

wish me luck

[vast arch]

That's it, I'm buying a lotto ticket

[leaden epoch]

Has anyone tested this? I tried it at the 2nd tier rewards which is 40 of the weapon parts, but I got 55.

[bitter estuary]

???

[neon pebble]

Slang

[signal spade]

this seems mid

[twilit thistle]

💀

[river vigil]

I still need to do that XD

[twilit thistle]

Bots dont count for it

[storm mural]

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAA

[twilit thistle]

Bots cant drop data like that

Trust me they eat my data when i kill all 3.

[river vigil]

I think its more of the fact that bots dont carry the max data

[twilit thistle]

If one picks it up, its gone

[brisk mango]

Hey so are the massive increases in power level requirements in most of the activities permanent or temporary? Cause it's now impossible for me to do Gauntlet Onslaught

[vast arch]

Charlie would like a word

[crisp shuttle]

Is it possible to get wolf over 100k power?…

[twilit thistle]

I am ranked #23 general in sg. Bots drop the same ammount of data, the only diff is on that modifer they drop more, trust me i spawn kill them

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah I’m tryna get there bro, hopped in a game and legit had to use half my abilities just to take out some basic enemy’s, crazy work

(I was at 38k power then, almost 50k now)

[old harness]

This is doable with bots btw

Got it done this week with an alt account

[brisk mango]

Oh great bad enough that I am having to wrestle with constant technical glitches and unreliable teammates (like one of them deserted us mid battle and because of that the whole effort in the boss fight fell apart) and now these stupid power level increases make it go from difficult to literally impossible

[twilit thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[river vigil]

does jumping off the map with max data complete it?

[crisp shuttle]

Something i noticed but im not sure about 100% is that you can do it while being under the recommended power level, BUT you do reduced dmage and take extra damage (you’re at an even higher disadvantage than just your power level)

[old harness]

cant post a picture or I would show that i did it on may 2nd

just ran my alt into a team of bots with max motes then used ikora spam to kill them

[crisp shuttle]

To the more experienced players, what do I need to do to get my character over 100k power?

[keen oasis]

Max your weapons, max your artifacts

That’s really it

Do the season power bonus material sink

[crisp shuttle]

Is there an exotic auto rifle? I haven’t found one in game yet

[twilit thistle]

Except bots dont carry data like that. Its based on your score, and if you dont deposit their score will refelct yours.

[keen oasis]

There is one, but better off going with the grenade launcher if your wolf there is better mythic rifles than the exotic

[hoary agate]

This is what I'm at currently. I could still bump non-seasonal a bit higher with better mods and slightly higher artifact rolls.

[crisp shuttle]

Such as? I have 2 mythic rifles for wolf, and an exotic launcher already

[vast arch]

bro summoned Tangibility just by whispering Wolf's name

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah I got that launcher, but a different mythic

[keen oasis]

That set up right there is your best bet

[crisp shuttle]

Sir I want to max wolf if you want to dm me any info you have for how to best do that (artifacts, weapon mods, etc)

[crisp shuttle]

What’s the name of that rifle?

[hoary agate]

It's the same as every other character

5 star weapons and artifacts
Adept mythic weapon + maxed exotic weapon
High-roll S4 exotic mods
40+ base stat artifacts
Matching artifact substats

And then some investment in the paragon board.

[limber pine]

Wonder if a solar hammer titan will ever come

[crisp shuttle]

…

What’s the paragon board…

[sullen depot]

emanare. but focus on that last since ur still low power

[crisp shuttle]

I don’t even know what that is 🥲

[sullen depot]

cuz ur not there yet

[limber pine]

Can I see ur Gwynn build?

[sullen depot]

u just started and only 50k power. just keep playing the game essentially

[crisp shuttle]

I know, lol

[vast arch]

you'll see it in your ghost menu when you unlock it

[hoary agate]

It'll eventually look something like this, but yeah, it'll unlock when you start doing seasonal quests and stuff.

It gives power and some gameplay choices for resources.

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah my next goal is 65k so I can start grinding some of the monthly events (forgot what it’s called but there’s one that’s 62k power requirement)

[crisp shuttle]

Bet, thank you, what’s the unlock requirements? Level 90? (I’m 88 rn)

[vast arch]

Still working on her artifacts but this is where she's at rn. Haven't decided on the offensive arts yet

[crisp shuttle]

Nice thank you

[twilit thistle]

12:40 for 50. Ning, meta build?

[vast arch]

I don't know what the unlock requirements are, sorry

[limber pine]

Ah okay I gotcha

[crisp shuttle]

That’s ok, I’ll get it unlocked eventually, lol

[sullen depot]

i swear they changed something behind the scenes cuz i havent had any 167+ base artifact roll in 3-4 weeks now

[vast arch]

Boxer, Arc Comets, Melee Comets

[vast arch]

I had a few drop today

[sullen depot]

rip my luck is gone

[river vigil]

I've had multiple drop all week

[visual rain]

I NEED THIS

[river vigil]

none of them have been high enough to raise my power though

[visual rain]

with mint retrograde first slot and tractor cannon

synthoceps artifact

[limber pine]

I get a lot of good stats from choice artifact engrams not from chaos lol

[sullen depot]

all i have had are 150-165 rolls. sometimes even 140 rolls lol

[vast arch]

172, 172 and 175 today

[limber pine]

I got a 43/44/43/45 today I can't add

[twilit thistle]

Nothing for me either. Just garbage roll after garbage roll. If anything good drops its not on my wishlist, or its just below what i already had.

[river vigil]

this dropped in my last 100 floors but I'd lose power if I point transferred :T

[limber pine]

I've been getting a choice artifact every 10 stages from that chaos event it helps

2 45s is crazy work

Not since s3 have I seen one

[river vigil]

its been over 45k proficiency since my efrideet has seen a power increase from artifacts

surely I have another +10 coming soon

[twilit thistle]

Only ones I see that are good, are the ones i was forced to upgrade. No natrual 5 star good ones seem to be dropping.

[crisp shuttle]

Damn dude I want that…

[twilit thistle]

So i guess when they obsolete these and its 50+50 we are chasing, the best time to grind for chaos is the first few weeks.

[sullen depot]

doesnt want me to succeed lol

[twilit thistle]

reddit b complaining about it too. Its probably weighted or something. Whatever it is, didnt feel like rng. It certianly didnt feel good.

I think the more you get of an artifact, the better they should be getting.

[visual rain]

reddit complains about everything

[vast arch]

brb gonna go complain on reddit for a bit

[storm mural]

brb gonna complain on tumblr about reddit

[twilit thistle]

brb gonna join don

[sullen depot]

there are def some weights or something behind the scenes in coding cuz why is most of what im getting have super boost on it

[twilit thistle]

haha that happened to me too. And when u infuse one, guess what perk is going to go in there as if it has a magent.

[bitter estuary]

xuan wei is surprisingly quick in adept chaos

[visual rain]

did you just stumble upon it or are u farming for 45s

cus arent u just gonna have to get it again come level 100

[visual rain]

yeah ok so thats not a response actually

[twilit thistle]

Those were when I was just getting god rolls for estela. I had no idea how good they were back then, it was like phase 3 or something

[visual rain]

oh damn

[worn trellis]

anyone know if unscathed upgraded is better than close quarter upgraded?

[sullen depot]

spike chaos farming or in general?

[worn trellis]

unscathed upgraded says all damage multipliers increased by 35%. is that just additive or multiplied to it?

spike chaos farming

also it shows 40% for close quarter on the upgrade screen

[bitter estuary]

close quarters is better if you're running shockwave

[sullen depot]

well seeing as spike means ur up close then close quarters

[visual rain]

i always just take unscathed because all damage multipliers being increased sounds good

realistically it does not matter what u take everything falls over either way

[worn trellis]

it sounds good but i'd like to know if that's adding on top of original multipliers or is it a multiple

very true

[visual rain]

probably a question for taniks

aint nobody else tryna test that

[twilit thistle]

Was dispensing them like it was a pez despinser back then. Like every 100 youd get one. For anyone who isnt meta, that is.

[visual rain]

wtf

[twilit thistle]

Now the ones that are like this always have a flaw.

I got 45 45 45 40 the other day

[worn trellis]

ive never seen anything that good. closest i've seen was like 43,44,42,36

[twilit thistle]

Talisman of inspiration is what it dropped on.

[signal phoenix]

🤮

[twilit thistle]

wanna farm in about 20 mins or so

so ez now

[visual rain]

no im tanking my friends elo in valorant

[sullen depot]

still at a 4stages/min avg

[visual rain]

maybe tomorrow but i just started playing where winds meet and it is very good

[signal phoenix]

That sounds nasty why do such a thing 😅

[visual rain]

hey its not intentional

[signal phoenix]

😅

[visual rain]

i just suck at it

[bitter estuary]

balls

im gonna build him today

[storm mural]

DONT DO IT

[bitter estuary]

i've built all mythics wdym

i maxed out wolf after finding out ssb's projectiles are ball shaped 💜

[misty marsh]

no pun, he's a blast

[bitter estuary]

oh btw since today is spike shell for emea/apac, dont forget to change your emanare ability to charged melee

[twilit thistle]

Were there even any patch notes?

[sullen depot]

Patch notes come out tomorrow

[twilit thistle]

No maintenece notice?

[vast arch]

It is tomorrow in emea

[bitter estuary]

it comes out in 7 hours iirc

[sullen depot]

Yeah but typically we all get patch notes around the same time no?

[bitter estuary]

11 am gmt i think?

[vast arch]

Oh I don’t remember

[sullen depot]

Yeah the only special server is CN

Other servers typically get patch notes or maintenance and all around same time

[vast arch]

That’s at reset for N.A. I think

[sullen depot]

Yup yup. Typically it’s around that time but sometimes in can be delayed and not show up till later in the day though

[misty marsh]

when did u get promoted to senior mod
-# grats btw

[proud violet]

Yeah usually patch notes get posted around this time

[twilit thistle]

Towns only big enough for two senior mods.

[misty marsh]

or maybe I'm blind

btw what happened to that one rat

[jagged osprey]

I’m praying for a legendary campaign rebalance

[vast arch]

Thanks! I’ve been a senior mod for a while now 😄

[vast arch]

Me 2 times 1000

[twilit thistle]

I nominate don for community manager

[misty marsh]

I wanna do campaign w friends, even if it's like twice as long

[bitter estuary]

thiss

[misty marsh]

imagine all the possible shenanigans

[bitter estuary]

im struggling to get a good time with a t6 ikora

wdym sub 4 instead of sub 3

[tender mist]

is T4 efrideet as good as it sounds it sounds very good

[bitter estuary]

this is blasphemy

[misty marsh]

like shatterskating a friend into the wall....or off a bridge

[jagged osprey]

If it doesn’t get nerfed I might crash out idk. I’m dying to grind exotics

[stark forge]

imagine t0 ikora in leggy

[twilit thistle]

imagine wolf

[misty marsh]

oh btw u can stack sparrows. makes sm interesting problems

[jagged osprey]

If it doesn’t get nerfed but gets boosted rewards, then we talking

[bitter estuary]

surprisingly, usable

[twilit thistle]

as a newlight i meant

[misty marsh]

esp in the new boss room

[bitter estuary]

oh that's true

[twilit thistle]

getting one shot by aoe 0.1ms after starting it lmao thats what i imagine

[misty marsh]

increasing rewards w multiple completions in a single sitting, or a bonus for hitting like 10 runs in an hour would b nice

[twilit thistle]

wdym its like 3 mins if you make a mistake rn

[stark forge]

can u get 3 mins with t0 gwynn

[tender mist]

just noticed tariq is solar now tf

[stark forge]

he has always been solar wdym

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-496833742737182965

[twilit thistle]

thats like 20 per hour, bringing in 60-80 jars of yellow fluid per hour. On the black market that is 90,000-120,000 tokens. Converting that into silver, 900- 1,200 silver per hour. Correct me if i am wrong @indigo solar

If anything it goes to prove that the black markets pricing is horrible. Mines trying to sling ai generated decals that @bitter estuary is so fond of for 55,000 tokens.

[bitter estuary]

wrong person you balls

i am NOT a wolf main

and i dont support ai slop

[stark forge]

i mean wu ming in story quest rip off his customer all the time

[twilit thistle]

Fond of hating on was what i meant.

you balls. I know better

[signal spade]

[misty marsh]

yh they borked the dmg measurement thing. had a hh on 1st enc that spent most of the time dead but had 99.8% of dmg

oh u got t6 that's totes accurate then

[stark forge]

arby dmg inflation is uhh

[misty marsh]

can we get a hunter doing triple jump

imagine if we could select jump modes again. high jump is interesting but muscle memory sometimes makes me feel dumb

[modern seal]

How do people do impact with efri? It feels impossible to pop the shields on the shinkas

[twilit thistle]

Did you know shes immune when she dodges

[modern seal]

The problem is more like it takes forever to pop the shield

[fervent sage]

hello, i dont mean to intrude but, i seem to require help, the newbie experience is killing me, i spent 15 mins killing the boss on the snowy area of the first chapter, before getting ikora, and i dont seem to understand what i am doing wrong, would it be too much to ask someone to help me out seeing my equipments and such?

[indigo solar]

Tragic, pure arc comet boxer it is

[worn trellis]

if i leave the game running overnight while in a chaos run. do another run after reset and save and quit. do i still keep that save with spike shell?

[indigo solar]

I mean technically yes but you can't convert without limits

Oh wait you're talking about buying cores, not selling them

Yeah no reason to do that

[twilit thistle]

If they do this chaos event and dont nerf it, and also let solar comet which breaks spread shinkas go on. I swear. They have to be collecting data... right?

[fervent sage]

im sorry guys, ill try to see what i can do, sorry to bother

[empty kettle]

They are always watching us

[twilit thistle]

wat

[stark forge]

im sure they consider bringing back pinnacle energy soon

[twilit thistle]

Suprised they actually want you to do 20 adept strikes and stuff like that.

Can someone explain to them that they have unreasonable expectations and that this is actually worse than the d2 grind that i remember

[empty kettle]

Combat lab event seems like it's foreshadowing something

[twilit thistle]

I mean they had some stuff like this in d2 but it wasnt everything.

[fervent sage]

@twilit thistle

[twilit thistle]

I dont understand what you need 😭

I dont know of a snowy area

[fervent sage]

the first one, the snowy area they showed you how rep works

[empty kettle]

How can you forget JSM 🥀

[bitter estuary]

jiangshi metro ahh ic

[crisp iron]

[fervent sage]

and i dont have image perms to show my wolf

12940 light/power

[twilit thistle]

Umeko flaming roomba build has promise ngl

Her debuff works with it

[crisp shuttle]

Bro wtf this would be broken on wolf given his abilities and how much you can spam one of them, and the fact the other gives you a damage multiplier already

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/thierry-henry-smile-thierry-black-guy-funny-gif-20849730

[twilit thistle]

This build feels faster than all my other builds. I wish i had tried this earlier.

It kills on contact

[tribal atlas]

Guys is this tuff

[crisp shuttle]

Shut your pie hole, I like wolf mkay? (Teasing ya back)

I got “better” characters but I don’t like them, lol

[tribal atlas]

Wolf is good his primary just doesn't do great dmg

I like his abilities tho

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah not the best damage but given he also provides team support while being able to do the damage he does makes wolf a good character

Not hard locked to only brawling or support, kinda mixed build

[stark forge]

emotional support ?

[tribal atlas]

Yeah I used him a little last season

[twilit thistle]

Revison 1, without having boxer till the last upgrade, already shattered my other benchmarks for the day.

[crisp shuttle]

Naw damage multipliers go teammates and plus 40% movement speed, but only in a 25 meter radius around him

And only while in the super

[empty kettle]

Dmg multiplier?

[indigo solar]

Corrupt is an individual debuff, it doesn't boost teammates' damage

The only debuff that boosts teammates' damage is Umeko's shurikens

[twilit thistle]

its litterally just killing red bars on contact. Granted my sheild is 8000 but still

[vast arch]

You can stay in but you can’t save. Once you leave the run resets

[worn trellis]

damn ok

[oak kettle]

Been meaning to ask when they changed this

Cus wayyy back when you very much could save a chaos run from the previous day if you were actively in it at daily reset

But it’s not the case anymore

Last time I seriously farmed artifacts enough to notice it was late s1/early s2 I think, so I only noticed the change when trying to preserve a spike shell run a few weeks back

[vast arch]

I have no idea when it changed I just know that’s how it works now.

[twilit thistle]

😭 it does exist

it does exist

[worn trellis]

is the hawkeye token broken? i've been testing it at the practice range and i'm not seeing a 48% increase to damage

[twilit thistle]

More than 20m away. If you dont know what that is go into heroic chaos and find a capture point

[worn trellis]

well there are targets with distances on them

i'm standing 50m away from one and the damge between that and one from 10m isnt 48%

[indigo jewel]

It’s not 48% damage as soon as you cross the 20’ mark. It’s up to 48% damage depending on how far you are

So 100m is better than 20 m for the multiplier

[worn trellis]

im aware of that. what i'm saying is. that I fired at 50m which is 30m higher than 20m. but the damage did not go up 40m to 50m

is the buff also dependant on the weapon used?

[oak kettle]

Any chance you’re running into damage falloff?

[worn trellis]

im using a bow and queenbreaker

[oak kettle]

Probably not then

Honestly I just avoid the range based artifacts personally

[stark forge]

still its the bis for hh free damage buff with infinite uptime

[oak kettle]

Specifically on HH a lot of the good characters in this game thrive off of point blank dps so supporting them you also have to be too close for those artifacts to work if you want to share damage aura with them

[indigo solar]

This is because you have other artifacts

What slot 3 do you have

[oak kettle]

For solo hh sure but at that point just use efrideet

[stark forge]

i dont like efri

too slow

[visual rain]

???

[worn trellis]

abundance, conversion, inverted fury

[stark forge]

swap invert for united axion pls

[indigo solar]

So you should be seeing a ~20.3% increase

[worn trellis]

i am

[worn trellis]

need to farm for it

[indigo solar]

Most slot 3 and 4 effects are additive, so you're seeing a (1 + 0.3 + 0.48)/(1 + 0.3) difference

It's working as intended

[worn trellis]

thank you. i was assuming it had to be some math issue but didnt know to go at it additive or multiplicative.

[south agate]

I still don’t understand forcefully increasing power requirements on all activities without giving more sources of power to characters. Emanare sucks, is way too much of a material sink, and keeps you at barely below what you need to complete said Phase’s expanse requirement.

[bitter estuary]

i know

[south agate]

If the only way to counteract this, is adding level 100 and 110 gear, this game is doomed. Occultation Essence is already so scarce

[bitter estuary]

no one is gonna do 1000 chaos per week

[oak kettle]

I mean it’s gonna stop in like a week or so

[south agate]

Is this confirmed? There’s 10 phases no?

[oak kettle]

Once Theres no more emanare to upgrade

[stark forge]

but u dont need occult once u reach phase 5-6

[oak kettle]

Not that I agree with the power go up on everything but endless mind

[south agate]

If they add level 100 and 110 artifacts, I am NOT grinding out 300 essence for each artifact again because occultation essence sucks to get and is required to level up lvl 90 artifacts

[oak kettle]

Makes doing matchmade activities so annoying cus half the people are low power and that makes 1 phasing onslaught bosses pain

[south agate]

That’s just bad game design.

[oak kettle]

You don’t star up level 90 artifacts tho

Thats just not the correct way to upgrade them

You farm 5 star base

[south agate]

Once they add higher levels, I have to refactor those entirely again because upgrading a single level 90 artifact would take all the essence you can get in a season… that’s inherently bad game design

[oak kettle]

Refactor transfer on base stat transfer?

[south agate]

And who says I can transfer the 4x base +45 across higher levels?

[tight talon]

Long time no see @indigo solar

[bitter estuary]

i was playing 5 ppl with 1 wolf thats underleved, we did 1 phase it but this wolf wiped all of our revives

[bitter estuary]

you can lol

i did that

[south agate]

Read again. Who says I can do it across level 100 and level 110 artifacts with level 90 Noctis

[bitter estuary]

but idk if i did tell you about it

[bitter estuary]

oh you cant do it accross levels yeah true

[stark forge]

elivagar raid with randoms truly is an experience

[oak kettle]

Anyway my gripes with the phase system increasing power on activities can be summed up as gauntlet onslaught matchmaking sucks now and iron commander adept strikes/blitz is literally impossible to get bonus rewards on now

[bitter estuary]

i had to inv you last min because it was attrocious with 1 random thats underleveled

[oak kettle]

That’s about it

[south agate]

I am NOT getting 4x +45 artifacts for at leats THREE different characters every 4 phases

[bitter estuary]

4 characters*

yeah

[oak kettle]

Emanare resources haven’t really given me much issue, the only resource I’ve actually gotten stuck on is legendary weapon mats now

[south agate]

Surprisingly 3rd Encounter is easier to do than 1st with LFG

[bitter estuary]

no bro no actually no

[south agate]

Nah 3 is enough. Just use Jaren for Impact and Piercing

[stark forge]

most enjoyable activity here, watching randoms fail an encounter 10 times in a row

[oak kettle]

But even then it’s gonna be a bit before I care about that cus I’ve still got a bunch of levels to get to even get through the essence side

[south agate]

That was my experience at least. 2nd is def still easiest though

[oak kettle]

Eh I disagree now

Back at launch sure

[stark forge]

glad i got all gun copies now that i dont have to farm it anymore

[bitter estuary]

2nd is the hardest now

[south agate]

Prism drops need to be increased, or Emanare req lowered. Incandescence clusters imo also need to be lowered to cost 1 per level 3 node

[oak kettle]

But first just needs a few people being decent, if you don’t have a near full team doing good dps on 2nd then you have to do mechs at least twice

[bitter estuary]

i played w/ randoms and once they failed to 2 phase it

[south agate]

I suppose I just had a different matchmaking experience

[bitter estuary]

when did you last play it nightmare

[south agate]

Like last week

[stark forge]

nah if u let randoms get to 2nd phase its automatic fail

[bitter estuary]

exactly, phase 7 is attrocious compared to phase 6

like you HAVE to play it now

[oak kettle]

Very much true, can confirm they just do not know how to transition back from dps to mechanics and will wipe every single time

[bitter estuary]

phase 7 power req is INSANELY horrendous

[obtuse chasm]

Yall need to just learn how to win

[south agate]

I really expected NetEase to improve the game with S4… I was sorely disappointed… why do I even bother? Destiny games are cursed.

[bitter estuary]

ikr randoms are so bad at the game

[stark forge]

tbh its mainly due to everyone running out of heavy ammo

[bitter estuary]

i saw ananta leaks and sighed

why is netease putting all their effort elsewhere

[obtuse chasm]

I don’t play with randoms, never will I ever play with randoms lol

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/ofjiyu-memes-gif-25901502

[obtuse chasm]

I always have to make a premade team

[oak kettle]

Crimson, Furies and Truth should really make this a non issue but the randoms also just don’t know how to build

[bitter estuary]

i was always referring to randoms, i personally rarely do outside heroic strikes/blitz

[stark forge]

u premake teams for sparrow too ?

[bitter estuary]

sparrow balls

[obtuse chasm]

I don’t do sparrow racing

[south agate]

Bro doesn’t know the meta

[obtuse chasm]

I’m well aware of the method, that being said it’s only valid as an afk method

If you’re actively playing there are plenty of other things that are more rewarding

[oak kettle]

Eh I do my daily casual stuff in sparrow racing

[south agate]

I mean yeah, but Sparrow racing

[obtuse chasm]

It was valid when the game first dropped, it’s boring and dead now

[oak kettle]

It’s significantly slower than fishing if I was only going for daily casual but also 4-6 SG weapons

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah but I’ll just do sg atp

[bitter estuary]

ppl only do it for the afk farm anyways

[obtuse chasm]

And fishing when I’m waiting for queues

[south agate]

But… but… Sparrow Racing

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah if I’m on the game I’m actively playing I don’t afk Dr, only time I did was for bulwark

[oak kettle]

Also mainly doing sparrow racing to get the title out of the way

[south agate]

Same lmao

[oak kettle]

Sub 2:30 triumph is very annoying when the game says funny vex land

[stark forge]

sparrow weapon pool is garbo anyway

[obtuse chasm]

They’re not ready for this convo

[south agate]

Trueee, aint feasable in vex

[obtuse chasm]

Last time I said that had a whole bunch of people barking at me lol

[bitter estuary]

its not?

just use the free cny sparrow

[south agate]

The weapons serve as scrapping fodder

[bitter estuary]

but but 10k mythic parameters per day 🥺

[oak kettle]

Yeah the best time I’ve gotten in vex space using the event sparrow is like 2:40

[stark forge]

they will pull thermo out and said no

[stark forge]

i rather buy from wu ming

[obtuse chasm]

What are the statistics for this, I feel like all that time needed to achieve this could be spent, idk, playing the game lol

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/wet-owl-gif-5658056727679848013

[oak kettle]

Well yes but also you could set this up and then play another game at the same time

Or go touch grass

[bitter estuary]

im just tired

at playing

[south agate]

Parameters are useless atp

[bitter estuary]

i need like 8 weapons left to adept

its that good

[oak kettle]

You say that but it’s been 8 weeks and I’ve still not gotten efri sniper to adept

[bitter estuary]

i get 1~3 weapons adept per day

[stark forge]

leggy campaign farm get u more stuff at the same time, exotic core, lattice, weapons, mythic shards

[obtuse chasm]

Just saying but the same people doing sparrow racing as a legitimate method are the same complaining about being bored with the game

[indigo solar]

Yeah I've been less active lately but starting some time next week I'll be a lot more free

I feel like I've still been talking here at least daily tho

[bitter estuary]

?

[south agate]

I have. Skill issue

[bitter estuary]

if i do play i just play morgrans or legacy

there's 0 reason to play strikes/blitz outside weekly

[south agate]

I play morgrans. One good day of grinding Legacy and you wont need sheafs or clusters for the next 2 phases

[bitter estuary]

if mythic parameters are useless then all gamemodes are bad and only chaos is good

[oak kettle]

More like a time investment thing, I put like an hour in per day, maybe 3 or 5 on a spike shell day

[obtuse chasm]

Where is the logic behind this statement

[south agate]

Thats fair. I put in like 6h daily on S4 launch until Phase 4. I’ve got all but 2 bulwark weapons adept

[obtuse chasm]

Same people complaining about all the power increases are the same ones doing sparrow racing. Aka they’re doing suboptimal farms and paying for it

[bitter estuary]

because chaos is the only thing that is gonna give you a sense of progression

[south agate]

Because I was an idiot and never put effort into bulwark weapons in S3 💀

[bitter estuary]

ok chaos glazer go back to the mines

[stark forge]

wish they sunset legacy, morgran and leggy campaign keep only raid and strike to farm resources

[south agate]

And then they proceed at add an event requiring 2001 chaos stages for some occultation essence 💀

Way to go NetEase

[bitter estuary]

sorry but doing thousands of chaos just to get 1 or 2 4/4 is painful

[south agate]

Removing base Crota was so unprecedented

[obtuse chasm]

I touched Chaos first week and 4th phase haven’t done a single one since and built 3 characters all of which have carried me through leaderboards

Yall are just genuinely grinding things because people are saying to, instead of enjoying the game

[south agate]

Hot take: Artifact Gilding shouldn’t have been removed

We got scammed out of like 15k power, and didn’t get ANY material value from the mats spent pre S4

[bitter estuary]

did you even get the attributes you want ???

[stark forge]

idk chaos farm is fast like focus 2 weeks phase 4-5 i got 9 char setup for emanare done

[obtuse chasm]

No I push top 10 with 1/4 arts

[bitter estuary]

i feel like endgame isnt worth it to do even unless all emanare buffs are unlockable

[south agate]

It doesn’t really matter that much when you play at 2k below at all times because NetEase can’t balance max phase power vs next 10 expanse stages

[stark forge]

nothing is worth bc there are no incentives

[bitter estuary]

it took me hundreds of chaos just for a few 1/4s on the WRONG artifact i need, pls

[bitter estuary]

rng is punishing

[obtuse chasm]

Your rng must be horrible

[bitter estuary]

and your experience should not be reflected on others

[obtuse chasm]

I got 5* with all perfect attributes on my efri first day of phase 4

[south agate]

I mean I thought this went without mentioning. I said earlier that Bulwark shouldnt have been removed

[obtuse chasm]

The irony in this statement

[south agate]

Bulwark was an actual good activity

[bitter estuary]

if you have a good experience w/ chaos. great! if you don't just dont comment

[bitter estuary]

true

[obtuse chasm]

Again, ironic and hypocritical

“My time is bad so everyone else’s has been as well and if it hasn’t you can’t talk”

[stark forge]

idk i farm weapon/sig/dmg/super on every artifact now that i can swap it to anyone i wanna use

[south agate]

Who has good experience with Chaos?? Lot of grinding for perfection or not, the gamemode gets stale real quick when you realize the “new” stages are just rehashed existing ones 9/10 times

[bitter estuary]

if thats the case then why is the playercount dwindling

[south agate]

Shouldve sunsetted SG instead of Bulwark smh

[bitter estuary]

if im hypocritical then where's the receipts

[obtuse chasm]

Because the casuals are falling off

[stark forge]

just sunset chaos next season

[south agate]

Which is clearly bad for the game. Best example? DESTINY FRIGGIN 2

[obtuse chasm]

Majority of players complaining are struggling because of a skill issue

[obtuse chasm]

I don’t disagree with this

[stark forge]

how can a new light reach phase 7 this week

[south agate]

This has been known for quite some time. Bulwark was actual available for like 3h on S4 launch

[obtuse chasm]

Phases are meant to restrict players and set a goal i would argue that the phase restrictions only matter to players that have BEEN playing

[south agate]

They just hid it from view.

[bitter estuary]

i assume act 2

[stark forge]

i guess we should all stay at phase 1 for the whole season then

[obtuse chasm]

Explain

[bitter estuary]

new players can access phase 5 now, they are underpowered, what do they do? quit the game?

[stark forge]

no more pressure to upgrade things to do activities

[bitter estuary]

i have an alt to prove this btw

[south agate]

The phase restrictions and Emanare aren’t inherently bad systems, but their connection to Power Systems and the way they always put you right below (x)5 -> (x+1)0 expanse stage power is really annoying

[obtuse chasm]

No, do the activity’s the game provided to acquire the power for said activity’s

[obtuse chasm]

I enjoy the phases and emanare I haven’t struggled with power but I can agree with the power increase applying to say iron commander for example which is impossible to achieve being a problem

[south agate]

All the activities receive power increases. At some point (i.e. Phase 8) players won’t physically be able to catch up

[obtuse chasm]

I think they are good things, just executed poorly

[stark forge]

still emanare should like only apply to endgame activity rather than every game mode across the board

[obtuse chasm]

I kind of agree with this but to an extent

[bitter estuary]

executing poorly is the REASON WHY a lot of this systems need to be playtested even further

[south agate]

Reminds me of another core game system in Destiny cough PORTAL cough

[bitter estuary]

the fact that they had to decrease the power req FOR CHAOS not even halfway to the season a few patches ago, speaks volumes

[south agate]

Not a bad system, but executed really poorly.

[south agate]

The fact that still wasnt enough because Phases counteracted it, speaks volumes

Newer/Returning players wont be able to catch up when they’re forced into Phase 6 from the get go

[bitter estuary]

level 80 players cant go to phase 2 they jump directly to phase 5

[stark forge]

maybe its a good time to sunset power suppression

[south agate]

Emanare should apply to all characters simultaneously, not exclusively the equipped character

Gets even worse when you realize there’s 12 phases, but only 10 are required to max Emanare… which means if power increases in 11 and 12, we won’t be able to counteract it with Emanare

[stark forge]

ooh cant wait to queue with randoms in prestige raid

they all must have strong char to carry me

[bitter estuary]

so real they will main this but devide the power by 2 😍

[south agate]

I’m curious what makes Destiny such a special franchise that now TWO legendary names in the gaming industry have ruined a game in said franchise. The IP must be cursed or something

[bitter estuary]

offtopic, i love wolf with the new AR

it makes him feel usable in adept content

[west frigate]

hey guys haven’t checked in on this discord in two years how’s the d1 development 😭

[south agate]

We used to say Activision was the problem, then we realized Bungie was the problem… but now? It seems Destiny was the problem all along.

[bitter estuary]

you can try it for yourself, but dr has a major progression issue

[south agate]

Agreed. Now please make the dash hit through phalanx shields for God’s sake

[bitter estuary]

oh thats annoying

[west frigate]

wdym have they been working on rpcs3 d1 stuff??

[stark forge]

could it be activision was responsible for destiny fate all along

[bitter estuary]

wrong server ig

this is rising not d1

😭

how did i misread it

[south agate]

This is the gacha game m8

[west frigate]

fok

[south agate]

Hate to burst your bubble, vex void is never coming

[stark forge]

destiny players do not read fr

[south agate]

Iykyk

[bitter estuary]

left side or right side issakis 💜

(ppl still fail it somehow btw)

[south agate]

Starboard and Port

[stark forge]

should have kept weakpoint team wipe tbh

issakis no longer fun after they changed it

[south agate]

Also, it is a FACT destiny players don’t look up. Half the LFG doesn’t see Njorun tentacle weak spots

[bitter estuary]

im gonna prepare for leviathan balls

[stark forge]

colorblind too they just shoot the red tentacle

[bitter estuary]

i hope the raid is similar

will watch a vid... later

[south agate]

If it even is a raid

[bitter estuary]

true

[stark forge]

watch leviathan became elivagar or rehash apadana map

[south agate]

2 raids in a season is a lot of content by NetEase’s standards

[south agate]

Imagine it being the menagerie

[stark forge]

and a new raid means we should have news about another raid race by now already

[south agate]

What if they pull an Issakis on us and advertise Contest AFTER the base version releases?

[stark forge]

hmm true

[bitter estuary]

no its actually little

wwm gets raids every 1~3 months

[south agate]

Wwm is not Destiny

[bitter estuary]

fair

[south agate]

Destiny raids are a unique thing to said franchise

[bitter estuary]

their raids are WoW style anyways

[south agate]

WoW is still very much different

[bitter estuary]

exactly

[bitter estuary]

true

[south agate]

Raid races have hit all time player records for single game activities in the past cough Witch Queen and Lightfall

[rotund flame]

Yup . Hate doing the Auto thing where you send your 3 characters on a mission and you can't check the last mark because the power boost doesn't apply to everyone 😭

Iron commander is what it was called just remembered the name lol

[south agate]

I’ve purposely not pushed forward into Phase 7, so I can spend all my Commander Slips

[crisp shuttle]

Fake nightmare

Go back to from whence you came

I am the OG

[south agate]

I’ve had my username since 2017 on discord. Sit down

[crisp shuttle]

I’ve had my username since 2015 on halo

[south agate]

I’ve also been in this discord for like a year and a half longer than you

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/nezarec-destiny-2-wipe-root-of-nightmares-gif-2803003947143710498

[crisp shuttle]

Shush

[visual rain]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

[south agate]

Oh we talkin HALO days? I’ve had variations of my username since D1 Beta in 2014

[crisp shuttle]

I’m told I’m quite similar to a wall

[crisp shuttle]

Preordered reach?

[south agate]

Yessir

[crisp shuttle]

What’s your favorite halo game

[south agate]

Big gamble but it paid off imo

[south agate]

Halo 3

[crisp shuttle]

Yep reach is a chefs kiss

[crisp shuttle]

Yea we cool bro

[south agate]

HAHA lmaoo

[crisp shuttle]

Ayo, everyone this dude is a recognized nightmare, he can speak for all of us

[empty kettle]

What do you mean 12 phases?

[crisp shuttle]

He is based and never wrong

As we all are

[south agate]

If you look at the phases and go to one of the pages you can find all upgrades from all phases. Goes to XII afaik

[south agate]

Appreciated

[crisp shuttle]

Yep no problem

Anytime for a brother

[south agate]

Even better, I was a kid at ripe age of not old enough for Halo, but it wasn’t like my brother cared

[cyan tide]

There's only 10

[south agate]

Then I misremember, or I’m having insane mandela effect rn

Couldve sworn it went to 12 on launch

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah I was 5 when I played my first halo game, my dad was the one who put me on it, lol

[empty kettle]

I think you had one of the phases roman number swapped

[crisp shuttle]

LASO with my dad at age five was a crazy time in my life

[south agate]

Hey I studied Latin, I know my roman numerals! I prob just misremember it

[south agate]

Luckily my brother never put me through that. I did it to myself when I was a bit older tho

[crisp shuttle]

It was fun, I was never any good until years later but I still enjoyed it

I remember having to track down all the skulls in the og halo games

That was also fun, wish more games did that nowadays

[bitter estuary]

balls

[south agate]

Hey I was 4 when halo 2 launched, had some core memories stick with me for life. Ultimately begged my parents for Reach at the ripe age of 10

[south agate]

Collectibles have always been fun

[crisp shuttle]

Legendary memories bro

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah I just found this game 2 days ago, already at 50k power and level 88

[south agate]

The only reason I enjoyed playing minecraft servers was due to the seasonal head hunts
I was bad at pvp

[crisp shuttle]

Was looking for something interesting with a campaign mode, played call of duty mobile for years before hand and was tired of the same old PvP

[south agate]

Honestly insane progression for how poorly DR is balanced

[crisp shuttle]

Yeah, lol

And I’m working 70 hour weeks on the night shift rn

[south agate]

I could never tf

[crisp shuttle]

So not a ton of spare time, I think I’ve clocked 12 hours now? Maybe 11.5

[crisp shuttle]

lol, I’m a real grinder

Heals many leaderboard spots for all of North America before in different games

Highest I’ve been is 11th over all global in a game

[south agate]

I’m glad I enjoyed the pandemic in college times. Grinding D2 was fun during that time

[south agate]

Highest I’ve been on a leaderboard is #1 in exotic fishing in DR

[oblique geyser]

crazy we still dont have CN patch note lol

[crisp shuttle]

Lmfao

You got me beat

Lemme drive home real quick, just got off work

[south agate]

Turns out, Belgium don’t got a lot of fishers when the game download is blocked. Luckily Mumuplayer came to the rescue

[crisp shuttle]

Nice little 11 hour shift today

[dusty aspen]

Bolls

[crisp shuttle]

Lmfao

[bitter estuary]

balls mentioned

[bitter estuary]

i think its because this game is a gacha game lmaooo

you literally cant download it on the appstore without sideloading it (but you're in the eu so its piss easy to do it on android/ios so idk)

[south agate]

It is. Gacha is seen as lootboxes and thus blocked in Benelux

And yet Genshin continues to roam free

[bitter estuary]

how

[signal spade]

idk if 90s doable with the build it took to get to 90 we might be cooked

[bitter estuary]

seeing this

i rather wait until phase x to attempt higher expanse stages ngl

[signal spade]

im also no ascension using a rank 4 gallows

so i might be trolling myself

[bitter estuary]

nvm

😭

[stark forge]

gallow is strong

[bitter estuary]

when you wanna clear content but you need 25 more latices to upgrade that one exotic

[stark forge]

my t0 estela might have a chance

[signal spade]

well i have the lattice but

[bitter estuary]

oh

the cores?

[signal spade]

i could also just save em for next weeks bp weapon or send them into anything else

[bitter estuary]

true

[signal spade]

leaderboards are fun but also who cares realistically

[bitter estuary]

i need ted fix

[signal spade]

im just glad i broke the efrideet chain

[bitter estuary]

i literally regret building it, i could've funneled it on other exotics

i've done crimson but like

what IF i did it on polaris lance for example

[stark forge]

polaris is uh exotic total lockdown

[bitter estuary]

we do not talk about me maxing out chaperone ok

also we do not talk about riskrunner

[stark forge]

trinity ghoul

[bitter estuary]

i hate bows

but i like AR's

but wolf is wack

[stark forge]

sweet bus not convincing enough to build

[jaunty elk]

do we know what weapons tariq uses?

[lean burrow]

probably sidearms as primary

[jaunty elk]

baller

[lean burrow]

i'm waiting for patch notes hoping to see some improvement in getting adept mods

[regal gulch]

We gotten any new info on new character yet?

[bitter estuary]

because a full mag doesnt do enough damage as lets say vodnik

[plucky geode]

think reset in china is in an hour. Should have some info on bilibili after that

[lean burrow]

bilibili waiting room

[regal gulch]

Nice

[drowsy cypress]

still no info about S4 E2?

[north phoenix]

guess well have to wait for a trailer

oh wait...

[drowsy cypress]

no more trailers😏

[north phoenix]

bruh what happened to the marketing team

[lean burrow]

i understand trailers are expensive to make, but at least some sponsoring and being more active on social medias would be great

[bitter estuary]

less than 3 hours left till patch notes are out

[north phoenix]

It couldnt cost much to post a YT trailer reveal

[rotund flame]

Crazy how we have 1 day till release and we still have no info. Not be able to pre farm really hurts players 😭

[rotund flame]

Happened to get this in iron commander, never going to have enough materials to build one but still lol

[lean burrow]

yeah now you can't even send it anymore lol

talking to these devs is like talking to a wall

[rotund flame]

Yeah the emnare system is so bad. I see what they wanted but i guess they didn't test it lol

[lean burrow]

like everything they do in this game

didn't test great hunt for bugs, emanare is a resource black hole, activities that scale power with season phases and the loot stays unchanged.

[regal gulch]

@lavish carbon what build you were making for jaren for speed

[rotund raptor]

Anyone know what todays modifiers are for chaos

[lean burrow]

emea/apac has spike shell

[rotund raptor]

Ohh nice

Ty

[glacial pagoda]

How this game doing rn?

Im gonna reinstall it to just game but just wanna hear ppl opinions

[bitter estuary]

the same since season 3, playercount wise

except its better?? which is subjective

you can unlock all mythic base copies by gameplay (without gacha)

no pinnacle energy, better weapon/artifact system, but very grindy seasonal skill tree/emanare system

[bold fog]

No loss to me
Cope ppl, I have no internet muahahaha

[dusty spire]

:/

[regal gulch]

Any info or nah

[bitter estuary]

in an hour

i see no cn vids maybe they're all uploading

[dusty spire]

2015 😅

[opaque torrent]

Bingo list : leviathan raid, trials, shifting gates remastered

Reality check : probably a bunch of nothing

[regal gulch]

Omg I wish

[dusty spire]

I’m all up for shifting gates being reworked on

[empty kettle]

Few more hours until we get patch notes

[opaque torrent]

Gambit prime was such a good game mode. I have reckoner title. Bungo/ netease please

[drowsy cypress]

pregnant radegast bikini skin

[dusty spire]

About a hour we should get out notice

[oblique geyser]

you sent a screenshot yday of efrideet on imapct but someone cleared 80 on your serv with her ? struggling hard on enrage and impossible to one phase shinka..

[regal gulch]

Or no notice at all because they evil

[dusty spire]

We will get it lol

[kindred ember]

[dusty spire]

Ain’t really played this week much

They definitely implemented a causal loop

[bold fog]

I remember helhest had a trailer
Did any others?

[dusty spire]

Because even though my play time has drastically dropped I’m still gaining over time casually

It’s a casual model Hense the phases with a open grind method that don’t over penetrate progression over time

[empty kettle]

Kabr was the last one

[dusty spire]

But not on the same levels as the earlier limiters

Ain’t worth the time spent creating these if they don’t have an audience to sell it into

So they just used stock

I think they still have a few stock left of what what ever pre built

[neon pebble]

Theyd be better spent on advertising than new trailer fr

[dusty spire]

But probably managing these until what ever discussion are made about the games future

[bold fog]

I don't feel like I'm keeping up with progression at all
I gave a 95k
But I need 3 97k and I feel afraid to commit to any because I have to have copies for other elements

[neon pebble]

How do you 97k no emanare

[bold fog]

I don't
Idk if anyone does

[empty kettle]

It's not possible

[dusty spire]

Feel like notes are gonna come in real soon

[vocal hawk]

What time do they typically show up in-game?

[neon pebble]

Never

[empty kettle]

Well for my timezone usually 13:30 or something close to that

[neon pebble]

We so hype and he gonna be Xuan+Jolder baby

If our abilities and damage doesnt keep up in end game do barries and bubbles keep up? Are heals effective against massive dmg?

[late thistle]

We still don’t know if he impact or not

[bitter estuary]

i usually see it around 11~12 am gmt

[vocal hawk]

Should be relatively soon then

[dusty spire]

About 11am my time here in the uk

That’s in about 7 minutes.

Id estimate it’s dropping within the next hour

[bold fog]

Who thinks he's impact

[dusty spire]

Or bow

🤣

[vocal hawk]

I'm curious why everyone is defaulting to a male character. I've been out of the loop for what people know/assume.

[dusty spire]

Aura

[polar summit]

sidearm gl

[dusty spire]

This ain’t anime gatcha

[vocal hawk]

It's been so long since I've played that my clan disbanded and I got returning player rewards.

[polar summit]

Tariq ☝🏽

[vocal hawk]

Is China notes out?

Alright that sounds like a yes

[dusty spire]

I was thinking sidearm HgL

[polar summit]

Note are out

[empty kettle]

So impact and spread

Got it

[vocal hawk]

Yeah, Tariq, solar/defense, sidearm hgl, he's a treasure hunter of some sorts

[dusty spire]

Knew it

[empty kettle]

Finally a defense hunter

[oblique geyser]

Gl omfg🤣

Worst combo ever

[lean burrow]

lmao, i really hope they put new gls at this point

[oblique geyser]

Useless impact

[polar summit]

That looks 💩 lol

[dusty spire]

Yes

Love this

[vocal hawk]

Hopefully Manifesto's alright

[dusty spire]

Shield pop

I’m a HGL fan so

I’m all in lol

[empty kettle]

Same

[dusty spire]

Like big fan

[vocal hawk]

I like HGLs

[dusty spire]

I know you too lol

[vocal hawk]

Maru is my favorite character

[dusty spire]

Bro I like you

[vocal hawk]

Just wish we had some good exotic ones
Would looove prospector

[dusty spire]

That’s my queen

[bitter estuary]

i dont like maru

but i love wolf

[polar summit]

Are u guys eating 💩hgl sucks lmao

[oblique geyser]

Maybe kit will be op but sidearm as impact is basically useless rn.. you dont pop any shinka with sidearms

[bitter estuary]

my king

[dusty spire]

We will soon! And they will be just as good as arc!

[oblique geyser]

Another impact for rapid fire thiugh

[dusty spire]

Love the combo too

Impact spread 😍

[vocal hawk]

Sidearms do not fill me with confidence

[dusty spire]

Shield pop combos

[dusty spire]

You pop shield and then finish with side arm

[bitter estuary]

mesicku is nice in my experience, otherwise yeah

[dusty spire]

If you create shield explosion you zap a lot of Hp from enemies

So then you go into finisher mode

[empty kettle]

You might not like it but who cares anyway, it's preference

[bitter estuary]

the older sidearms are crap even after the new perk upgrades

[bitter estuary]

??

clearly doesn't know how good maru's passive is

[dusty spire]

It’s preference and as you can see those who like tariq and now having time talking about it

[bitter estuary]

also how good ssb is for essentially everything

[dusty spire]

Last days of efri so have fun

She’s strong arc nice nice moving on

[lean burrow]

so what's the new content? pandora's wheel? oh man can't wait

[dusty spire]

What ever that is lol

Spin and get glimmer

[vocal hawk]

We've had it before

[dusty spire]

🤣

[vocal hawk]

This is basically accurate

[sullen depot]

Oh oop no sidearm buffs it looks like

[polar summit]

Let’s just prey his abilities compensate for his awful kit

[dusty spire]

I’ve got all my kit ready for bro lol

[lean burrow]

also patch notes saying useless stuff like oh new pass , oh new character, oh new banner

[dusty spire]

Everything looool

Impact spread

[lean burrow]

so basically the new content is a new character, damn

[polar summit]

Unfortunately they didn’t add skins for efrideet and Tariq apparently

[dusty spire]

All I have to do is farm his core arts if he has any

[dusty spire]

You want to save into summer

Right now this is feeling very filler

The biggest drops won’t come till spend period

[sullen depot]

Looking like a skip for me otherwise

[slate halo]

superskip

[bitter estuary]

it feels like wolf but defensive

[dusty spire]

It is

[bitter estuary]

like lowk

[dusty spire]

He can get into crowds with survival

And break mob shields ect

[bitter estuary]

genuinely wanna see the dps difference with the same loadout (except wolf uses vodnik and tariq uses mesicku)

[dusty spire]

And nimble

So he’s not like stationary

[vocal hawk]

Always wait to see ability kits

[empty kettle]

Because it could be broken

[vocal hawk]

Weapon mastery in particular is a place where characters tend to get weird and surprising

[slate halo]

soooo no changes in exotic cores economy? damn

[dusty spire]

He’s weapon kit covers all elements

When abilities kit drops?

[polar summit]

Do not forget he’s a defense character, dps ain’t his focus

[dusty spire]

Defence is a trait

So he will have skills that assist with defensive

[bitter estuary]

?

[vocal hawk]

Some of our highest DPS characters are Support
The role tag is borderline meaningless

[dusty spire]

Facts

[vocal hawk]

Just gives you a vibe and direction

[dusty spire]

Why do I feel this fits you so well

A little to well lol

[bitter estuary]

they're tuning down power req for adept strikes/blitz, i assume iron commander will be usable

[vocal hawk]

Defense just tells me he's going to be relatively hard to kill

[bitter estuary]

he's gonna be good in impact i assume

considering wolf does well at it

[sullen depot]

That’s just HH. Apart from HH, every released limited mythic character was offence

[slate halo]

no changes in legendary campaing, which is a big problem rn

[vocal hawk]

HGLs are decent anti-impact despite the mismatch, right

[sullen depot]

This is our first defense limited mythic character

[bitter estuary]

i know, 150 runs to max out the stars of a single exotic is brutal (3 runs = 15 datasets = 1 lattice)

[vocal hawk]

Kabr

[slate halo]

he is standard

[sullen depot]

Kabr ain’t limited. He a standard banner

[polar summit]

I rly hope y’all right, but as of now he just looks like a filler to me

[vocal hawk]

Oh, true, he was half limited

Early access limited

[dusty spire]

I’ve settled for fillers

[vocal hawk]

It's been a month since I've played

[dusty spire]

I like the HGL

Ngl

[vocal hawk]

Has there been another HGL since S3's?

[dusty spire]

Nope

[sullen depot]

Yeah everyone else has been offense mythics. Even if u include Kabr 2.0. That’s just 1 defense char and HH being the support character

[dusty spire]

But we gone get them ☺️

[vocal hawk]

That's fine, that thing is a monster

And seriously, when/if Prospector shows up things are going to get ridiculous

[dusty spire]

Ok now we wait for CN drops

[regal gulch]

Yeah im t6 ef he look mid

Gg I'm sad I already have ikora and she better in every way

[bitter estuary]

im not gonna even pull him lol

[regal gulch]

Literally

[bitter estuary]

im just gonna collect elemental condensates

[regal gulch]

Im actually so sad he looks like he gonna be mid af like a bad maru only build to survive

[vocal hawk]

Reminder: "this looks mid" has been the discord reaction to literally every single character

[river vigil]

We dont know the abilities or weapon mastery yet

[regal gulch]

Unless his abilities are op af

[keen oasis]

How long till he’s out for the first server

[dusty spire]

It’s a bias economy

Just enjoy your collection

[empty kettle]

And has always backfired on those who skipped the character

[regal gulch]

Yeah I would love to know his abilities and such but they dont fing show us

[keen oasis]

1 hour ?

[dusty spire]

Part of performance is skill

And he will be placed into the current power cycle

[regal gulch]

They are literally selling no way you can deny it

[sullen depot]

So we have gone if u don’t count kabr/ikora since game launch impact -> rapid -> piercing -> spread -> impact -> piercing -> spread.

Rapid found dead in a ditch

[regal gulch]

They give us zero indications of what he has till final day and zero info about his abilities at all

[keen oasis]

Or they put so little time into him they didn’t spend money making videos and stuff

[regal gulch]

And je end up being side arms gl

[bitter estuary]

im sorry but why are there like 3 new rapid guns when theres barely any characters that are viable in the endgame for them

[regal gulch]

Like bruh feels like he will be a fun wolf at high expectations

[bitter estuary]

like atleast give them a buff

[sullen depot]

I doubt they are ever getting a char video again tbh. We never got one for efri or ikora. Kabr 2.0 was the last

[regal gulch]

But low will be a survival type to tank dmg

[keen oasis]

He could be so mid and average and everyone has high expectations even though the game has continued to bleed people after the save me update.

Two sides to the coin everything is exactly as it looks like it is, or go full hype. I’m gonna laugh when he’s not an actual “hunter” and is a titan, he’s just a “ treasure hunter”

[vocal hawk]

I don't think he's a Hunter, either

[dusty spire]

It’s quite simple you skip or pull lol

[sullen depot]

Same same

[vocal hawk]

I'm willing to be wrong

[dusty spire]

He has cape

[sullen depot]

If he ends up being a hunter we basically had 3 hunters in a row if u don’t include kabr/ikora

[vocal hawk]

Do we have picture now?

[dusty spire]

Not sure if that means anything

[keen oasis]

So?

[regal gulch]

I prayed for him to be op af like the ability to steal other abilities for him self or steal stats

[regal gulch]

Or a farm character or something

[dusty spire]

It’s his shoulder that’s the relic

[regal gulch]

But the worst combo ever

[vocal hawk]

Yup that's a hunter

[keen oasis]

Solar titan with some throwing hammers, fusion rifle im sure

[dusty spire]

His a knight

[neon pebble]

WHAT WEAPONS

[regal gulch]

It seems he is the bait this wipe and ef is meta

[vocal hawk]

Sidearm/HGL

[dusty spire]

Nible knight

[keen oasis]

That’s the stupiest combo

[regal gulch]

Literally

[keen oasis]

Hgl suck why not a rocket or auto

[neon pebble]

Junk and junk, can't concerto

[dusty spire]

I prefer HGL

[sullen depot]

Inb4 manifesto is also a rocket sidearm (speculates)

[keen oasis]

I’d have taken fusion. Rifle as we only have one

[dusty spire]

Not rocket

[empty kettle]

It sounds stupid at first until you see his abilities and weapon mastery

[vocal hawk]

I like how you think

[regal gulch]

I think he the bait this season

[keen oasis]

It doesn’t change they suck though. One exotic and no no legendary ones in two seasons

[neon pebble]

Because concerto it's broke

[regal gulch]

Ef is the meta

[dusty spire]

Listen not everyone is into raw power easy mode

[keen oasis]

Kabr 3.0

[dusty spire]

I’m loaded on boats and raw power easy mode didn’t get them

[regal gulch]

Yeah true but that what the game is literally

[dusty spire]

No it’s not

[regal gulch]

That how the play style is at this point

[neon pebble]

Iron Bar master he will be

[regal gulch]

How is it not?

[dusty spire]

Yes in terms of what eve the player base has capacity to explore

[keen oasis]

Kinda Is about power, every single thing in this game ultimately comes down to a dps check vs time

[regal gulch]

Im talking about the main important game modes

Like expanse and cordon

Other stuff like pvp he may be goted for survival

[neon pebble]

They don't know TED it's broken, it is overriding all of their dmg bonus buffs

[regal gulch]

But for main modes that you have to grind for max rewards

[lean burrow]

would have been cool if they gave us parasite exotic gl ( from D2)

[bitter estuary]

that being said, ill be doing an in-depth test between T0 TARIQ and T6 wolf

[neon pebble]

Efri will be creeps ez

[regal gulch]

Yeah sadly