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Use your spear on elements
Id do bruh
I sent you a picture of what it looks like 
I’ll dm you some vids, send your artifacts to my dm,
Why are the queue times so long? Does anybody even play anymore?
Here and there
Bro said depth when it’s the same stages since the start of the game
I’m all for difficulty but how they’re handling core modes like legendary campaign having the same rewards for a harder difficultly each week is crap
The harder difficulty is pointless when you get the same rewards
Make the rewards coincide with the difficulty.
Also 1 data lattice requiring multiple adept 3 runs to craft with that exponentially increasing without a reset is insane.
I’d say the amount necessary to upgrade exotics along with the above is to push purchases on black market but there you can only buy a max 30 per week. They’re not even doing whaling mechanics effectively
That’s how it is in D1 🙁
Ya gotta level up that light
Depends what you’re trying to do
Queue times are bad today
It needs fine tuned. All of it does. And it needs more depth to further justify it. More content, loot, maps. More game
I’m on cordon 20 rn and I’d beg to differ, bare minimum req is power the rest is 90% skill and knowing what to do and where to be
Guys did iron pledge daily missions but it didnt give me reward.. its bug ?
PLS HELP
That event is trash anyways
Also didnt get reward from efforts rewarded
Same here
balls
The Taken King one??
i like the daily glimmer u get from the event
Oh no, my 15 exotic parameters and 15 atifactual essence 😔
Sitting on 5 mil rn but that’s valid
and we forgetting the 200k glimmer? lame
how much glimmer do you have
i only have 21 million
Is it possible for someone that started yesterday to get the new iron lord within the 8 days of the season while f2p?
3.5mil I’m chillin rn just got done upgrading a few characters and exotics as well as rerolling arts so I went from 5 mil to what I’m at now
yea get it in 1 pull
Realistically
Imagine not having glimmer
Bro had to flex the 9k silver to lol
That’s actually 0 after I a4 efri
Real same for me, but with Gwynn 😏
One of my pack mates has her a5 what’s wrong with you 2
Lmao he’s a true believer
😂😂😂😂
they both wildin
Gwynn is meta
Imma do an impact push with efri then switch to Gwynn so it looks like I pushed 80+ with her 😏
And run the worst possible build on Gwynn so everyone thinks it’s the new meta
you could do that without the a5 tho
LMFAO
I'm quitting the game just because of the 901 error. I found exactly the game I was looking for, but I can't solve the problem, and nobody is helping me.
A5 was for the memes
THE MISINFORMATION IS WILD
huh
you gotta follow him up with the A5 Tan
Lmfaoooo yeah okay ima a5 ningching for his offensive signature
true true
Imma A5 Kabr next 😏
Might as well a5 kabr to unlock his true potential as a paper weight
“The walking skill issue” is what I call him
Why is no one helping me?
I want to play on an emulator but I'm getting a 901 error. Does anyone know how to fix this?
with what
AMD issues
one more and surely I get the mod I want
If I dont come out in a few days you have my consent to hospitalize me @thatdonfc
👀
@THATDONFC
Whats going on with discord?
Maybe cloudstrike hit the servers again
disc keeps going down 😢
Wow
It's broken
Lot of places had internet drop
oh hey everyones names have color again
Aye servers back
Yuhh
@sharp talon is it normal on 73 impact to shoot 10-11 shotgun ammo to remove impact shinka shield ?
What do we think of my screenshot 🤔
i dont think so
i dont remember though
I even have shinka mod and using counter lol
Using thermo shotgun
we need a vote kick option so I can kick people afking in adept strikes :T
try light echoes with identical weapon dmg
i think it works better idk why
We need kabr, no
We have kabr
Vog would end it
kabr has to die for the raid to succeed
Yes
Maybe Beard Kabr sacrifices Baby Kabr
We would still be able to use him
That would be cool tbh
Taken King should be in d rising too
i hope they dont add mroe 4 stars, more fortuna crystals 🔥
Fr fr. Every 10 pull guaranteed 1 free draw back
Let's hope netease won't make us re grind lvl 100 arts in s5
Turns a 60 pity into 50ish
Lets be real, they will raise cap to 110 or 120, then S6 it will be 6star
hope they bring back calamity ops soon
bring back pinnacle and calamity ops
Im not sure abt 6 star we had 5 star ish wpns s3
It was refinement lvl or wtv
I kinda wish they didnt make all my gold character not gold
I like the grind without pinnacle but calamity needs to come back
Calamity is good 1000 lumia at master was really nice but pinnacle would be the worst thing ever
Right
pretty sure the leaves are about the same
unless someone has the actual numbers
You get 10 each run if youre good
10 what
I think getting to stage 12 on both diffusion and containment is 1000
10 mythic shards
containment is only up to stage 10
I meant on diffusion
you said both
but are you talking about stars + first clear rewards
star rewards give leaves too
@vast arch 😭
I thought it was only exotic infusion cores?
Dang 400?? Is that chaos
there are leaves there
yea. Im doing 100 in 30 mins atp. I wont leave till i get the god rolls I need, last time I did this i hit stage 1000+
You play chaos all day dang
1500 from first clear + 800 from stars
Huh ig I didnt notice
Dang ok
I didnt know it was that much
👀 and now i am lvl 295.
The trick is to wait till u hit the cap, then claim them.
make it void for the bee lady
have that one too
give it to kabr 2 to hold for future content
Atp i just wanted 45 45 45 45 💀
if i start looking for 45 45 45 45 ill go even more insane than i think i have been
im like running out fo adept weapons to get ive gone too deep
Whats bad abt it
i wonder if the quality goes up if you leave them slotted
i change my wishlist on cooldown pretty much
Point transfer
It concerns me that god rolls are less rare than anything close to all 45's.
its prob intentional since you need infinite artifacts now for your roster
they prob also dont want you to even think about the quad 45 but maybe like week 10 will drop em all day
onslaught or strikes
seems like the game is dead are they gonna fix the queue times
all the smart ppl sent all of their tries into the last boss early so they didnt need to pug with bad players to get their coils
now nobody queues anything but first encounter cause the other 2 are failable
circle of raid
i just insta popped a first encounter
its easy on normal though
I'll run some strikes with you I'm farming them rn
its easy if 4 ppl know what to do
I do know that it will count it if it goes to ur inventory, i used to cheese stuff by letting it go to mail, or not claiming.
Even if u get something from fishing, it can reduce the quality of what u get later on.
what you mean
im a returning player i quit a while back i need to fix my hud and stuff on my ipad for 4 fingers
Sure. Lmk if u down. Same name in game
sure
iirc you are guaranteed loot. Daily. Something that guarantees u don't fall behind. Theres nothing preventing you from getting loot after that tho, its just rng. Algo itself is very complex and i only halfway understand it, and its very hard to explain.
What i always say, is if you are on defense on your very first shaowshaper match of the day, its a good day for chaos. If you are not, go do something else.
theres returning player rng for sure
the non boosted loot for elivagar is so bad lmao
its like insane actually\
Does power suppression scale based on how much lower you are from the level for the content in Expanse? Like if the power level is 110k does it matter if you are 101k or 109k?
doubt it cause we were clearing expanse like 12k under week 1
how 💀
Agreed!!!
Exotic lightbearers to be our new 6stars to gacha for. No more 4 stars only new 5s and 6
Stuff i know of is just deeper mechanics. I have been grinding 500+ stages of chaos since s1. During that, I looked for any patterns that I could find. By s3, I could predict it days in advance, and even manipulate it. Its not as easy now bc the loot is so abundant, but the same patterns are there.
noooo not pinnacle calamity yes
Don’t know about PE but Calamity would be nice to have again
Yesss so much easier
ill let destiny jesus take the wheel
Someone locked in
Pinnacle coulda stayed, just needed to up non pinnacle rewards. Lets be real, our limits are still weekly not daily 😜
Biggest limit is finding live players not bots
Now we have weekly Season Phases?!
We still pinnacled with worse rng
the only thing pinnacle energy did was make you choose if you wanted to level artifacts or guns now you can just do both
"Just needed to up non pinnacle rewards"
to what? what they are right now?
and then rename weekly rewards pinnacle rewards and make them 3 a day instead of 20 a week
Is right now really that great?
We had pinnacle and weekly alrdy my guy.
Dont make stuff up then come at me
Now all it takes if you're out of weeklies is like 100 or so legendary adept runs to make one exotic a viable 5 star and more if you want the catalyst boosts. It's excessive.
Need nightfalls, and stuff to get exclusive gear.
how so, I can farm chaos and LC without a limit now
It was that way before 🤫 we got 1-2 cores per non pinnacle run
Could farm chaos before, they just needed to up non pinnacle rewards
You didnt need to worry about making an exotic a "5 star" before and you were still better off before farming the other upgrade mats when there was pinnacle energy redeeming basic rewards
Photon farming tech needed T_T
Yes, why drop pinnacle when they could have just increased rewards
so why did it need to stay if this version is better?
The rewards now without PE on chaos are better lmao
im just confused as to what part of the old system was better lmfao
the part where you played less or the part where you had to use black market tokens to level your gear if you needed something
I think both versions have good parts. The biggest one is going to be LC. Nobody likes them, or the balancing behind them.
Thats one of the most common complaints
no one was acually farming with no pinnacle because it was like a 0.9 drop rate in chaos
If they upped rewards whats the diff?
you tell me lol
Big diff if pinnacle stayed it was alrdy listed
The biggest part now is that you can lvl up 5 char if wanted instead of 1 for 2 seasons
i never got anything good from basic reward chaos
Yall die on dumbest hill
you can gear like your entire roster instead of only 1 char a week
Ashually if you used 20 pinnacle per, and the chests alongside it, you could very rapidly open them and get the same rewards at one point in s1 (patched by s2)
why is pinnacle better tho, you can just say up the rates on either side
Or was it 10?
Wanting PE back is diabolical ngl lmao
i got 5 characters at 91k+ currently it's nice
I don't think there are enough hours in a week to do your entire roster with the grind in place 🙂
Pinnacle didnt have a huge grind system attached to it. Now we are expected to grind hours to get materials for say instance Emanare. No balance between grass/game on a phone is insane. This isnt pc or console
like if you want to limit what you do per day do that yourself without a system enforcing it
Good luck doing that with PE 🤣
tbh i havnt really grinded at all for emanare materials
you could not level your entire roster in one season in the old system either lol
Same lol don’t know how ppl run out of em
so the want for pinnacle is so you can play less
At most I run a couple morgrans or legacy, not too much grind.
I hit all my G Roll weapons zero grind lol all my arti were basically free
lucky
With PE can’t do both gunz and artis lol
my jaren arti took months
weapons were a non issue, those werent even a grind and arts were 10 times worse to get a good roll on
Didnt need adept perks on weapons or 5 stars?
I was able to run end game content clearing through level 40 expanse and being Master 1 or better throughout the seasons as characters swap in and out. Old system was easier to keep up with as long as you didnt care about power leaderboards.
Coulda been done with less grind
Adept perks are way better then what you had before
expanse is an entirely different change than the pinnacle discussion
Didnt have to lose Pinnacle to get them 😭
then why bring them up?
They just needed to adjust rewards
we need pinnacle so we can use our 6 attempts a day at adept guns and then log out
I don’t think we lost anything with PE gone lmao
It's all related, the sliding power increases in content, the way power scales in expanse and the need to treat the game like a part time job to get characters to where you want them to be for the content.
I hate that so much
calamity to cordon and expanse rework are not related to pinnacle change
those are entirely separate lol, ones a revamp to rewards and the other is reworking a gamemode
They should’ve kept calamity and have reworked on it instead of taking it out…
It's their answer to removing pinnacle, it is loosely related. If you want to die on the hill of being "technically" correct strictly speaking that's fine.
theyre not that grindy people are just not checking their inventories or immediately nuking their %s
Tower defence should’ve stayed too
Now show your exotics.
Facts, I grinded all weekend to hit 103k on one character. The rest sit 70k and need days of farm for weapons
?
those are not related like what
How is that relevant Lmaooo??
tbh i finished jaren atp with arti and adept, there isnt really any grinding anymore
your dieing on a hill that makes no sense but ok
i regret upgrading that borealis it was an impulse
That why we needed calamity for daily logging and competition and tower defence mode reworked instead of removing the whole thing 
for science
bro never seen what's a forge fail 😭
He was saying he could swap characters easier for end game, now each takes hours+ of grinding before playable
balls
i do cordon daily (most of the time) with my team it is fun but sadly not that competitive on emea/apac
the rest dont have good artifacts yet
Yeah like I have a fully built Ikora, but using a void exotic primary and an arc heavy. Now expanse is solar and my best feasible option is to run legendaries until I'm burnt out to do another 10 levels of the same but slightly harder content because I should switch exotics.
yea which was the case by s2-s3 but this is a fresh change, not everything will be leveled by this season, but next you will be able too. that was the point
me when more than half the lb is you
🤣
People don’t do it as rewards are locked behind stage 10 after that is pointless! People used to do calamity for the rewards and comp was good too
new changes that will slowly wind down over time as all grinds do
Sadly, we still were getting season changes and power cap increase. They just needed to adjust reward flow and add pinnacle/lessen pinnacle cost on activities
if they add lumia to no 1 2 3 like 200, 150, 50 ppl would probably push more 🤣
theyll prob do an event at some point to try and get ppl to want to go above 10
That has nothing to do with pinnacle
Definitely lol that why people used to grind ops like crazy just to get that max le from resets but cordon is ohh do stage 10 and done
tbh even the leaderboard title is not even a reward
i didnt even get to use mine at all
-_- thanks for agreeing with me but maybe look at the start of the convo before getting involved
its still frickin bugged 🤣
Speedrunner content pls pls pls we need a leaderboard not an endurance test
I was the start of the convo 🤣 💀
isnt the reward from cordon right now the same as if you were master 2 in calamity ops with like 1/10th the annoyance of promotions
that part was about coffee complaining about level characters
ye i like it, but we need moar rewards and competition
which you joined in on
Nope
whats the math
1500 first clear + 800 all stars
dont know what master 2 rewards were
Top of the ops you get 1600 where In cordon in total you get 400/500 more lumia
tbh they might not be adding rewards there cuz they dont want to moderate cordon 🤣
we got 2300 leaves per calam reset?
Its all been about pinnacle
Yh some like that
yea so isnt cordon just more loot but you cant just play 1 character
he was talking about having characters built for expanse and calamity, that is not related to the pinnacle vs grind debate
i guess depends on how often they refresh these cycles
cordon ops (4 phases, 21d each cycle)
star reward: 800 x 4 = 3200 lumia
diffusion: 750 x 4 = 3000 lumia
containment: 750 x 4 = 3000 lumia
We get more in cordon but calamity was more fun ngl… if they just reworked on it and removed the attempt’s would’ve worked
copied from my clan server
i think they also hate ppl exploiting, going oob, then they have to moderate and hotfix etc in calamity
I just wanr either crota back or vog in d rising
thats pretty much a free character
They don't care about it, it's the players that complain
Why not both
if you care
expanse endless (season long)
4(120 x 7) = 3360 lumia
92/18 is like 50 pulls
they have to spend resources to do that tho?
Or both absolutely yes
moderate and hotfix
Yeah because if they don't then players will complain
But they were fine with them for a long time
Oob wasn’t much.. but by exploiting if you mean unstuck that player base complains lol
the fact theres no punishment for dying in calam ops made it a meme anyway
'guys jump off the map and respawn ahead of me'
not really a punishment for cordon
Vex mythoclast should be in d rising 100000%
well the higher you go the more impactful being dead is
we unstuck in cordon 💀
Whatever it was calamity was way better… used to get people together and compete as a team and play each day to get that good score and was awesome… now those people that I played with do solos only as I
which was not rly the case in calam where 1 person could solo push a boss in 3 seconds
No lmao
Calam had major flaws
That why I said they could’ve worked on it instead of removing the whole thing
They did
Cordon is the rework
Cordon was around when ops was lmao
for an event to test the waters ig
Now the best thing in the game as in comp is expanse lol
ppl said a single strike is too boring, they are doing two strike per cycle now
Imagine they did that in opsssss
wish both could go past 10 tho
Limited attempts made players hoard tries instead of helping newer players, the competitive aspect for rewards punished f2p, the emphasis on speed heavily restricted the amount of viable characters and incentivized "dirty" play, and a single strike each cycle bored players. All of these issues were addressed by the change to cordon
What did people run for the higher level solar spread expanse runs?
Ikora with solar gl
Xuan with Jotunn
for spread i just used void cury mury / truth. haven't changed it for the whole spread expanse
I like the solar gl better lol
i dont have anything good
What would pinnacle change honestly? Drop rates weren’t changed for anything…
Just got the god roll today actually
I got all options adept so I just match shields
They were actually improved for most stuff
That the way lol
he is comparing no pinnacle rates to normal rates now
Or the reward was deprecated
Same
Exactly that’s why I don’t understand the whole bring pinnacle back argument
Did it take a ton of shots to pop shields?
Do adepts have more damage? Or just more power? (Uncommon doesn’t appear to do more damage than normals)
Absolutely nothing lol wanting PE is outa the question
Just feels like bait
more dmg if perk upgrades do more + power
i dont use them to break shield, i just use them to group and do the laser thing
Wanting PE is like saying gwyn is absolutely better then jaren
Gwynn is meta
wanting pinnacle is just not wanting to be able to grind
Drops were improved but more hurdles via the 5 star system were added as well as the emanare (sp?) board. Rewards were improved but "mat inflation" more than negates that.
So higher green numbers on perks? That’s it? Which gives the increased power?
huh
How are those hurdles tho?
Like the only things you're worse off on now are lumenite, exotic catalyst 1 mats, and glimmer. Lumenite isn't nearly as necessary anymore though, and glimmer incentivizes players to participate in the MMO aspects. The catalyst changes do suck for new players tho
if its not adept you dont have the upgrades at the bottom and you naturally do less damage
I’ve had zero issues getting multiple characters 107k+
It's more things to sink mats into. The grind is more intensive overall.
get people to play more , people always wanting to be so quick to grab player numbers this change will make those more
I have several weapons that have 6 point perks, but don’t say adept. Oh!! So, when you get double 6, it adds the adept tag to the weapon?
More grind is what people wanted 🤣
it needs tuning. Outside of featured rewards or burning borderline premiium currency (black market coins) it shouldnt take 100 or more adept legendary runs to max out one exotic to 5 star.
How tho? I invested maybe 3 hours and maxed it all haven’t had to do expanse since phase 3 haven’t had to focus farm mats or anything along those lines
what are you burning bmc on?
Because I thought (adept) had to be dropped with the tag 🧐
5-star system just means players are best off grinding new drops instead of upgrading their existing loot forever, which is a positive
What do you mean when you say max it out?
things could have better drop rates, yes - but the same thing has been said since PE was still a thing - so its not something specific to either system
weapon tokens mostly for battle pass options. All I buy is the $5 blessing and the $5 BP.
All exotic gems with high base rolls and all slots maxed
If we’re talking emanare
Only struggle has been getting groll mods
how does pinnacles energy leaving effect this
And even that is easy
like what
I rate this users response 5 stars
realized that i have 419 + 1 exotic cores and 15 photons now 🤣 i only do weekly lg campaign for the most part
Exactly lol
the rich getting richer
390 cores required, assuming you get 48 from the first 4 runs each week then with just 10 runs a week you get enough to max an exotic every 5 weeks
This isn't even assuming you use capacitors
Honestly we're going in circles here. If you can't draw the line between the removal of pinnacle energy and systems changes made to be excuses to grind, I don't know what else to say.
HOW DID PE EFFECT YOUR BLACK MARKET COINS?
If you just do the four weekly runs but use a capacitor for all of them, it only takes you 6 weeks
But how is it excess? There is nothing being effected if the drop rates stay the same if not better and emanare takes little to no investment
Good good lol
like your bringing up an example that was not impacted lol
Like what is the main system that requires an excess form of mats that you’re struggling with?
If anything PE was worse for BM coins since you basically had to spend them on photons
Honestly you keep switching to a different specific thing when I was referring to the big picture. Frankly its exhausting and I've lost interest in engaging.
-_- I mean you have not focused on a single point where PE vs unlimited grind was the focus
What's best place to grind adept weapons?
The whole reality is PE was gone. And was the right thing
Depends on the weapon
there isnt, its a gamble so whereever
I mean, you not going to drop an adept most likely, need to forge
This dropped for me the other day while I was doing adept blitz’s it’s all rng
But capacitors don't double the weekly reward?
Yeah I been tryna forge got 1 that way and a ton of uncommons
Correct
12+4 per run, 4 runs per week means 64 cores per week
Sorry there are the cores and the contextual datasets. I think at best you get 15 a run and you need 30 to craft a lattice. You then need 60 to 5 star an exotic among other things. It just feels bad doing some combination of waiting up to 5 weeks and/or grinding up to 120 legendaries for 1 exotic.
390 cores required to max a gun means 6.09375 weeks
Haaax
You’re not factoring in the gauntlet onslaughts which give you 15 as well as seasonal shop
Is it 4 now guaranteed? Thought it was 3-4 randomly
yea random
I’ve maxed 6-7 different exotics and done maybe 10 lc’s since this update
You're right I'm not. That's in part why I said some combination of up to because I didn't want to get into every possible options like these and black market coins.
Oh you're right, mb like 6.3 weeks then
What I'm saying is still true if you want to do more than 1 exotic because all of that is spent on the first one basically.
If lc were actually fun, we wouldnt be having this conversation.
5 infusion core per sg match as well
imo i find chaos more fun
yea SG the move
Sorry lc? Nevermind, legendary campaign
I be buying the whole shop
legendary campaign
But that’s the thing, why would you not want to do all that? You can’t be f2p and not do all your weeklies and buy out all your seasonal items, that goes for any game
Only thing whales have is black market and it gives us 15-20 more lattices
I would much rather there be too much to grind then nothing to grind at all at the end of the day. Things get boring when there is nothing to do. Having too much is a good problem
I agree
besides you can take the game at your own pace
no one is forcing you to keep up with other peoples progression
If you’re not going for leaderboards why does any of this matter?
30 lattices per week btw from gauntlet and season shop, datasets aren't intended to be the primary method of obtaining them which is why the cost permanently increases
This has been what I’ve said since the beginning but everyone is so hard focused on grinding lc as their main source
If you are not taking advantage of all the sources, things will be harder in general
I don’t even touch Lc other then weeklies, if I need infusion cores I grind shifting, if I need lattices I go to seasonal shop or onslaught and the rare time I need 2-3 lattices then I’ll go to LC
and havnig PE in the game would not make any of these things better btw
But LC should not be your main method of farming lattices
😭 shifting is a terrible source of cores
Instead of leaving legacy, and legendary campaigns in as the sole source of some mats, I certainly hope they divert this grind elsewhere while maintaining the current state of them. Just don't let them remain the meta, and shift that to another activity would fix it.
Bruh
Fair. I guess at the end of the day it's just a lot (to the point where I consider it excessive) of just Chaos and Legendary Campaign runs to just do Cordon and slight variations of well-worn expanse content.
NO
There’s always a bot like you ngl
How so? It’s like saying sparrow racing is a bad form of farming weaps, you get said weaps, infusion cores, and shifting shop currency to buy whatever else you need on top of 100 of those purple choice things
Yes?
The fewer game modes you need to play, the fewer game modes people will play
More diversity is good
yeah it's a hacked account
I mean the current game wouldnt support that, so this would be adding more.
Something else to do
That dude be spamming all of the channels bruh… guess we have no mods here anymore
anything else to do really
Sparrow racing is a bad source of weps if you have the time to play. Shifting is fine for getting cores passively while farming other stuff but it's absolutely terrible if cores are your bottleneck
It's at least a core per minute from campaign
I would agree but not with the current player counts
Shifting is 5mins a match
So basically the same rates
With little to no effort needed
5 minute matches + 3 minute lobbies for 4 cores
If you’re struggling with both anomalies that’s another topic entirely
you can guarentee 5 cores pretty easy
Shifting is basically still low effort if not afk imo
I'm giving all of my stats for the typical player, good players can get ~1.75 cores per minute from campaign
unless you actually find another playing team lol
2 minute surrounded runs
90% of the player base isn’t good
And its hydra
Right, and 90% can't get both anomalies
or shriker
Its always hydra.
it happens on na servers?
Or both
Occasionally
ran into one the other day
crazu
Rare indeed
most action ive seen in shifting since launch
last i remember real players was a while back with japanese players, pretty fun
It takes little to no effort, I know casual players who do it all the time
If you want to compare the 5 cores from shifting, you should compare it to the 1.5-1.75 cores per minute from campaign. If you want to compare the 1 core per minute from campaign, you should compare it to 4 cores per shifting
What if the rewards for shifting gates were reworked. (dont actually do that) As an example. And it became the meta over LC. Woudlnt that be better for the game overall?
But even with 5 cores, that's still <1 core per minute
Even if we’re comparing the two shifting would be better for majority of players seeing as it offers resources more commonly used instead of some datasets and cores
My mentality behind it is shifting gates isnt going to be the exact same thing every time, and wouldnt burn players out as fast.
Shifting is the better farm for cores tho? I don’t get your point
Shifting is fine how it is now, where it's a little bit of everything but not the most efficient for anything. Making it better loot than the primary sources would be worse for the game
It has lower cores per minute than campaign
It gives other loot on top but for cores specifically it's worse
More rewarding + cores + more fun
If you’re focus farming strictly one thing you’re not farming correctly
Legend
As a game mode i meant. I think chaos is good for artifacts, but we need one like chaos that people like for weapons. Shifting is cooked but is a good example.
My brother in Christ my original point was literally that it's good but if cores are your bottleneck it's not what you should grind
Yes and my point is that it is better to grind cores from shifting while also getting other resources on the side, you should never focus farm 1 thing if something offers almost the same amount on top of other rewards
Falsi teolsi
So we're literally not disagreeing, except that shifting doesn't offer "almost the same amount"
Side note, when are we getting purchasable inventory space back, I'm sick of only having 4 free weapons
But it does? What were those rates again? 1 less doesn’t make one thing better if the other rewards aren’t as great
you only have 4 slots free outta 500?
💀 is ok i hoard the other half for you
Adept 3 surrounded 3-4 cores (let's say 3.5) at 2.5 min per run
how are you guys holding so many
Shifting gives at best like 0.6 per minute
sg 15 min round trip i think including q
Surrounded is objectively the fastest farm for purely cores
Okay so one specific LC that is rotated compared to a game mode that never changes
Yes
Labyrinth can also still be like 3:30
15 mins? You’re trippin
you can do that one in about 3-2:40 on efr on precision
With umeko
Yeah it's rapid rn tho 😭
I was getting that on precision
I’d recommend shifting over Lc for the average player anyday
dont think I have a time on rapid
Man I just wish they would have surrounded and revelations be in opposite weeks
We see half the community whining about how hard everything is half the time
Thats kinda slow ngl i wonder if umeko+izi would do better 🤔
If you need to max an exotic as fast as possible you're still better off doing LC assuming there's a fast one in rotation
If you just want to accumulate cores for the future shifting probably better
not on my umeko
lol
I’ve maxed 6-7 exotics this season all from shifting
6 7
And used those resources on maxing adept weaps as well
Depends if 1 shots is just 2 shots on boss ig now. Used to be a 1 shot.
Oh yeah btw fun fact @visual rain if you oob out of labyrinth right at the start, the only enemy that spawns is the cyclops at the very end of the normal section
It’s not optimal farming 1 specific resource on any occasion
unless you want it now
but why would I do that when the oob just makes it slower
It’s for bots
Idk bruh I still think shifting is the better method
Ohh if you oob from here you can go mars quicker
better method overall, but if its faster on the other one for a specific upgrade I would do that personally
It’s not about the specific drops it’s about the effort needed imo
just depends
Personally I still would much rather do LC and try to work on faster times for fun, rather than SG
cus the game is meant to be fun and SG is the opposite of enjoyable
going for times is kinda fun
i wish there is a way to make sg match faster
But that’s where you find your fun in the game that’s different imo, I prefer pushing
You wouldn't, the oob doesn't even work just a fun fact
If it doesn’t have a leaderboard I don’t do it
I don't think farming bots is very fun or worth my time
There’s always a wish… get in line 🤣
You know what does have a leaderboard?
If i ever get outa chaos I will show why shifting gates on ef is 100% fun and addicting.
it is called the season of wishes
I don’t do it for the flex of the kills, I do it because I can throw on a show and afk till anomalies pop then go back to afk
funny ikora go boom
?
Most prestigious leaderboard in the game
yea youll never catch me on that one
Yeah I ain’t doing all that
Im trying to get the MOST prestigious leaderboard (fishing)
I advocated for this to get a better leaderboard 😔
I’m like 90% sure half those players don’t exist anymore
Correct
fishing > all other leaderboards
Neither does the OG GGG goat, @flint zealot :(
Fishing has some fire titles tbh
I hate seeing random lvl30-40 fishers in top 10
I love gambling
all skill related
Lowkey might hop on just to go fishing
Making an alt as we speak his main goal will be fishing leaderboards
bruh Im outta rods
I haven't fished in months and still get the "you've earned a title for being on the Speed King regional leaderboard" every week
is there a way to infinitely grind rods?
Same lmao
I be fishing every week with nothing better than a top 500
I think I was #100 regional
im cursed
🤨 📸
😭 of course my current stats have non 20+/0 kd's. I must have been throwing.
*fishing rods
0 and 1 data translated 🤨
Almost my IB KDs lmao
No
Me too
Ive stopped selling my exotic fish since coming back in late S3
I still remember randomly spearing you off a cliff when you were using a Rossi build
just too see my odds on shinies
Caught you lacking in the back behind the tower 😏
It was possible for the first couple of months when you could exploit the system to only catch exotics, you could get enough XP from one rod to get the next one five ranks later
WHAT
I hope you know I could have survived down there but didn't want to get banned
I honestly wouldn’t have noticed I didn’t know kills counted when you threw people off the map with her spears until you lol
I only ran PvP before efri in full ikora stacks
That was their best event
I have been a very active player i swear i play it nonstop
You watch anime?
Sorry I was busy looking for this
They changed it tho, you used to have like 10 seconds' grace for them to die after being hit where it would still count for you, now it's only like 3
So you need to tap them again as they fall to get the kill credit
Damn 😔
peak
Bettt, been seeing some edits and the animation looks A1
frieren lvl of cinema if u want to know my opinion
I need season 3 rn
Map is full of dirty play anyways, there are angles that cover both B and C simultaneously that are way above where players look, other angles that can watch both A and B with perfect cover, places you can camp as a team to time the enemy out, and little ledges that you can fake your death on
Yeah I’m mainly a pve player I only occasionally get dragged into it by PvP friends but never have an issue hanging for the most part
D1 I was a PvP player tho
And a bit of D2 wasn’t a big d2 fan tho
D2 made me think I was terrible at PvP
I only really played trials lol
Then I started playing codm and Rising and realised it was just my potato of a computer
I was goated in s1 and s2 codm but then quit because I got bored of it
Farmed the max rank at the time and got all s1 cosmetics
Now my account is rotting away
I quit when rising had its full launch but I had fun, I exploited the ever-living hell out of NA-45
I was beating T2 competitive players with it
I should clarify this is post-nerf
Not prime NA-45
There is no way that potato met the minimum spec requirment.
Hahahahahahaha not even close
Minimum requirements are 4gb vram right? Or is it 8
Oh it's 2, 4 is recommended
But yeah I had 490mb
(Just bc it says that doesnt mean its supported, those gpus dont even get new drivers iirc)
Which ones 🤔
I do, but not chronically. I’ve got a decent list
I was hoping you had watched the new one “witch hat atelier”
Sadly no lol
thats like old, old
unless you're using ram as vram, you can allocate more ram as vram
laptop, integrated graphics
💀 u lucky it supported it. Isnt that old.
can you just open your bios and allocate more vram as ram, unless you only have 8gb of ram then dont
ah, found it
literally
i've had windows laptops before with no dgpus and had no issues by just allocating more ram as vram
Brotha it’s The Witch King of Angmar, it’s always been this 😭
Yeah but doesn't actually change anything, windows will automatically allocate more ram to gpu as needed
?
you have to do that manually though
hold on i think this is a w11 thing
automatic reserved ram
yeah dynamic reservation up to the max limit, which gets set through registry keys iirc and I changed it to 8gb years ago
Windows will also take up a ton of ur ram. This me rn. Think its a paging file or something iirc. Windows janky.
Yeah if you aren't using your ram, windows will steal it to run background processes like indexing files
if you need more ram tho it'll pause its processes
Lol it never does it when u need that much, typically that would just result in the pc crashing
@bitter estuary wanna see my beta gameplay lmao
also igpu gaming just sucks
32gb of ram is NOT gonna cut it on modern laptops
@vast arch 😭 im scared
16 gb of ram in my pc 🥀
This is why I mainly play indie/solo games
but you do have a gpu right?
yes
yeah exactly that's enough lol
No problems at all running dead cells, noita, spiderheck, etc
if you run on an igpu it will NOT cut it
Someone slide some card shaper decks
okay scratch that spiderheck does start dropping frames sometimes
this is the SAME case on macs
Who is that 😭
d:r using 10gb of total ram 🥀
laptops suck tbh its never gonna run as fast as a real pc, and that has caused so many of my friends confusion and buyers remorse that i wont even look at them as a pc atp. I will never own a laptop.
don't get me started on triple A titles like control
Pretty sure this is still meta
laptops/mini pc's are essentially macbooks/mac mini's with the same exact issue and im tired of people saying "apple superior" no you just a shill
Tell me you’ve see lord of the rings 
Anyway this has always been my name js in a different font
If you want to beat Maru in her campaign mission tho, you should run this deck
Bet
Nah I only watch peak lord of the rings is horrible
He’s also my mtg commander
Or will be when I finish this deck that’s gonna cost me as much as a ps5 just to be mid
You mentioned "just to be mid" gonna spend a ps5 on T6 A5 efri?
No 🥀
Rather build my mid magic deck and have it look cool
Get some good card protectors, sleeves go hard
Prob betting MTG has official LOTR ones since they dropped a LOTR set
Yea that’s what it is, all official. That’s why it’s so expensive
I own the Eowym set but I wanna make my own with the Nazgûl
they still havent fixed this jaren slow motion bug
But I am 😆 🤣
I never got that, is it exclusive to emulator?
im not sure
its when u super the game becomes slow motion for a few seconds
Yeah, I've seen that happen in videos but never personally got it
Is there any news of a pc port?
you balls
that's MY LINE

festy
You can beat her? Doesn't she cheat? Didn't know it was winnable. Thought it was a scripted event
She cheats but you can still get enough points to beat her with this deck. I only tried it like 30 times but it is theoretically possible, you just need really good rng on card draws
Though if you flood her playing space so she can't play Maru, she just doesn't play and won't end her turn so who knows
I'm not expecting the dialogue to change if you do beat her tho
That would be pretty funny, she would probably get mad for losing even after cheating lol
do u know if it woulda been possible to get the triumphs for shadowshaper in there?
I doubt it
You can still play it tho
RIP
Which one is it so i avoid it
rapid fire 86
😭
for some reason shinka also dropped heavy for the first time here i got lucky 😭
Lock in buddy.
Rapid fire expanse has the worst stages istg
Nah that award goes to impact.
I usually stand on the pillars and shoot things.
spread:
which ones?
Speed i need this my mom is kinda homeless lmaoooo
When u drop down, both of the lower levels have pillars u can stand ontop of and shoot. I actually had footage of this from my t0 misbuilt jaren stg 40 clears i dug up. Its a challenge to stay on them but its how I would maximize consistency.
nice to know ive had tunnel vision the whole time 🤣
balls
🫠 @vast arch idk if i can keep going.
11 draws left until Gwynn but I'm lowkey considering skipping her again lmao
I haven't really played cordon so my Lumia has taken a hit
Ig atp might as well just wait to see what the new char is tho
He's on holiday for a bit. He'll be back in a day or two.
That's insane. 🫠
balls
Didnt jaren already creep her
balls?
balls.
Yeah that too.
Jay in gen chat?
Is this game actually back
pretty sure it's collect this season's new weapons
so the battle pass hc, the 3 elivigar weps and the next battle pass wep
i'm at 3/5 with the hc, cloudstrike and wardcliff
its bugged you can get it if youre missing an exotic its only counting new ones for some reason
so new ppl have it done
oh fair enough
i guess theres a chance we get 2 exotics
they uncapped the leaderboard timer?
on na hh its already 100+ or something i heard (im emea/apac)
😵💫
yeah no im going to t6 hh it seems 
I figured, he would want to know the tech i used on adept to clear 200 in an hr ❤️🔥 i gave up for the day lmao
ye
t6 hh will be everywhere when she reruns
its gonna be crazy
millions must whale ahh
I just want a mid range scope for efri game 😔
If I get one more long range scope I’m switching to being a Kabr main
They're on 103 at the moment
T0 incursion will be first, as every kabr using jade rabbit will get a free char.
lol it’s showing 3/4 & also 4/5 for me….
I'll waste some exotic parameters on a gauntlet engram to check
80 parameters down the drain 
Mine was showing 4/5 and 3/6 earlier
Whats highest node lvl for engram right now?
u mean 107
6
my first Adept weapon.
7 😏
nah 7 still didnt came yet
k
ahhh
wHy was Six afraid of seven?...
That’s is not an engram brother 😔
do I?
nah im joking
this will be the only six and seven I KNOW!!!
so what people do after finishing the weeklt things
Cordon or stare at my screen and wonder why I still play this game, mostly the latter
Go back to the chaos mines
so when a primary school children talk about Six AaannnD Seven... Just throw in... "oh! SOOoo.. you found out about why Six is afraid OF SEVEN?"
They say "dont poop yourself gramps"
Even an Unc knows that
It didnt even unlock anything 💀
idk why i jumb back i have been logged off since the first raid and i just log in for contest raid and get off
Im 104k, time to grind arti and full max weapons
idk why this time i played a lot
at least u have somthing to do
look for the bright side
I work like 60 hours a week and commute 2 hours a day going to/from work. 70 hours is already busy
I think you need a better job
if i had a work believe i wouldnt care about this game
You dont like overtime? Its 1.5x normal pay. Lock into double time for 2x pay 😜
I’d rather just get paid more in general, I make enough without OT to afford my crazy spending habits and still pay my bills
Then again I’m in California so everything is higher here
Lol doesnt everyone? I have a future I am prepping for on top of my habits, retiring early sounds good
i hope u dont spend it at t6 character
Doesnt matter what my hourly is, I am working OT
Def not for Ascendance either
im pt and i didnt get a job its realy hard to get here
oh naaah
Im sorry to hear bro, alot of people just had AI wipe their jobs in America. Where you live?
saudi arabia
Idk any advice to give then, I know zero about your country. Im sorry bro
np . keep going may u get better and better and have a nice life
Anyone here play free2play? Is it hard to compete?
no is not but its get like 3x or more easer if u pay
Speaking of Wich... There are people trying to Fake being Digital artist Using A.I.
Saying They created the art... 🤼♂️ grrr... I MOST DISLIKE them humans...
i meet a lot of t6 with same char but i got more dmg than them i think most of them dont know what to do
I hope you find something bro, dont give up. All good comes to those who are patient 🔥
thx
Companies are just straight firing digital artist and alot of the graphics industry as a whole
btw try efrideet I really enjoy playing her and she is really strong
Until fully ai automated robots can climb ladders and work on houses at a decent price. I will have a job
I hate HC and Sniper 😭 cool kit bad weapons lol
I'm Sure... Eventually We gonna start seing A.I images printed/placed on billboards.
You already havnt seen them? 👀
They are out there
tbh its more fun then helhest and using crimson making her enjoyable and her ability make it more fun
AI is here and real, its taking jobs like crazy every day
I wouldn't know where one would be in america...
Thus me in Aus
I didnt build my HH either 🫣
I heard about a company, I think it was Amazon, that trained AI to replicate employee jobs
they make them train the ai to copy them
I feel bad about school's reps.
if they used A.I for their school Ads.
Our drive thrus use AI to take orders
Soon school will revolve around teaching people jobs with AI so it will be necessarry to have best AI ads to showcase skill. We are going to see a shift from "AI image bad" to "we dont care" in like 50 years when we all dead
How Rare is it for Drone Delivery Packages in America?...
Ai doesnt sleep, works 24/7
Depends on city, but not at all
Its normal
true but he cant do physical stuff
Not yet
damn
I will be dead before its affordable on a private scale, and alot of weight limits in my field
Nah, cant replace a human in everything. You may get a FT job handling AI
Honestly... If they can train A.I to show HoloGram images...
Dunno if peeps will agree or disagree?...
nah i think he cant do ot and pt job cause its diff from one to another and it need physical sensation
today i found out some amazing things:
-
Floating Rift apparently works when Jolder slam recalls her shield; she gets overshield in midair just before landing
-
Night After Night's Time Marches On perk actually stuns rapid shinka faster, it counts the extra shots vs. their bubble
so now i'm farming godroll of both
Adept 1 this week is 91150......
universals having spread-only attributes was... certainly a choice! they could've at least had the minimum blast be just minimum damage instead & apply to whatever including spreads, but noooooo
i would've had an actual godroll Warner Ammo after the 30+ times i synthesized the choice mod if it was like rapid's minimum instead
i know this because i got one that had the goldthumb, base/elite, and... ... minimum spread
so because it had that, i dismantled instead
if depleted uranium ammo's 15% element boost when on Night After Night actually applies to Partridge Sky too then there's another reason i'll be ditch my adept Del5Kulfi for it
either that or i'll try the adept ammo mod after i get one of those
im borrowing characters for the legendary campaign but when i load in its just my normal character, whats up with that?
I don't like the current state of the game, I hope everyone is loving btw
nonsense leveling up the power of adept 1,2,3 EVEN normal mode.
Okay I finally need to start leveling up an exotic rocket launcher for Ikora, Truth or Two Tailed Fox?
search for wardcliff
I have 1, is that actually the best option? Forgot to include that
Okay, that'll take a while to get enough to craft the engrams, any time I try to matchmake that onslaught encounter, doesnt really go well.
Thanks
👀
We level up to do things more easily, but legendary campaign is getting more hard at the same time.... I didn't get the point, for real.
''challenge forever''? The game being hard forever?
Skill issue, quit your whining
😭 when did this appear. NO- no more chaos please
?
This is everything but skill issue, you are the type of guy that would like to see Ugly Sonic in the movies
You’re the type of guy to complain because he can’t find cordon 3 lobbies
💀
imagine an endgame that become hard while should be easy because of your power level, but then the endgame require more power level each week
like.... What?
i don't care about cordon, easily worst endgame of the game
I'm complaining about the legendary campaign
Wait what?! We have to actually progress and play the game?! Unacceptable
🥺
Because you can’t do it
but i need big strong players to carry me to stage 100 of cordon
I’d hate it to if I were bad at the game
Yes, you didn't understand what I'm saying
Funny how you didn’t see the sarcasm in that
Stop progressing your phase
I'm serious dude, go do something about your life instand being ironic in this chat
Yes I did it
why the game asked for more power? Can I back up?
Buzzword buzzword buzzword
It’s almost as if the phases are meant to increase difficulty as you get stronger 🤔
Knowing the power will increase with each phase its better to just power up yourself during current phase until you feel like doing the next phase
How to do it?
Ok kinda real tho I went to matchmake for fun and no one was there
I Que cordon 1 to farm exotic gems
It’s the method trust
what
Don’t listen to me
that doesn't even drop mythics I think
Wait really?
idk
Yeah you’re right
Simple, don't do the phase breakthrough if you can't handle the current phase
how to upgrade the power? all my weapons are in the maximum
only emanare?
emanare, artifacts
What power level is your characters?
You are nowhere near max
I'm talking about weapons
weapons are in the max
so more ways to get ARTift and more leafs
level 90 + 5 stars