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[azure saffron]

will try my luck with it, can get to the last phase I think I just need to kill the adds around him then kinda dance around him in overtime then

Themo is helping out a bunch more

that or I can lower my stress and just wait for monday

[neon pebble]

5.2mil dmg 5 secs

Use this mod on your kokoretski mythic sidearms to pop solar shields in expanse

[azure saffron]

is the shotgun exotic then? which one? or is that double mythic?

[neon pebble]

I use Octant

Have since launch, Concerto is so bad.

My fun is in trying to make off meta sorta meta

Ask Rossi

[bitter estuary]

concerto might be good since threat is better than er

that being said idk

[neon pebble]

Concerto is good for boss burst dmg, when clearing trash and ads it sucks swapping to shotty and losing your concerto stacks though, espec if shotty was already full loaded

40% dmg buff isnt anything special now that we have new weapon mods for mythics

[naive ingot]

I use Octant too

[bitter estuary]

yeah we prolly need the new sidearms

[empty kettle]

Imagine the Manifesto is only useful for the new character

[half sun]

definetly will be stuck in her tutorial learning this. . thanks

[dusty spire]

Yeah Gwynn got a upgrade ty for showing

[cyan tide]

Concerto is pretty good now actually, you get cadenza stacks from kills with signature abilities even when it's holstered. Just need to hit enemies with your shotty and then use abilities to finish them up

[dusty spire]

I think it’s more so players a failing to get her loop right

But if your doing that much in that amount of time your in line with dps

[cyan tide]

Here you can see I got 4 cadenza stacks without using Concerto at all

Could be a bug tho, I'm praying it's not because it makes Concerto a lot better

[dusty spire]

Not everything is single target dps so it looks good seeing players utilise other hero potential

[dusty spire]

She has a loop that works somewhat between skill damage and weapon it looks like but I don’t have her to play about

[cyan tide]

Yeah, she's really fun to play after the changes and now that I have T2. I think her biggest problem is that she only has one dash at T0 and that really limits her artifact options

[sweet urchin]

Hi any tips to clear expanse stage 72? I'm stuck on all 4 of them, running out of time every try

[neon pebble]

How do you get 2 cadenza stacks from 1 kill? Supposed to on a 1 to 1 basis I thought

[pine verge]

Elites give 2

And yeah concerto is very usable now. I like it lol

[cyan tide]

Watch them nerf it to make the new bp sidearm better

[pine verge]

They dont need to nerf it to do that hahaha

[cyan tide]

True, they just need to make it so it specifically doesn't work with the new character's kit

[dusty spire]

It’s for the new characters kit most likely no need to Nerph

[neon pebble]

I got diff results

Watch this one also, concerto gets final blow and no cadenza

[cyan tide]

I'm still getting cadenza stacks, try equipping Concerto before going to the practice range

[neon pebble]

Mayhaps you hit on a "cadenza" bug. I did have it all equipped before entering. Maybe if cadenza is active it treats concerto as being used still?

I will try your method using cadenza stacks on shotty, i have been dry firing no stacks

[cyan tide]

I made sure to test it without cadenza being active

[neon pebble]

Your video has cadenza stacks active on shotty when you start test

You swapped concerto twice and had cadenza on your shotty for 10 secs

Yes you had no cadenza for last hit, but now concerto doesnt need last hit just enough dmg for an assist. Maybe Cadenza stacks keep "concerto" active in a sense it treats cadenza damage as concerto dmg

[cyan tide]

No Candenza stacks

[neon pebble]

Crazy, mine doesnt do it like that

[neon pebble]

Even getting a final blow with actual Concerto did nothing

[neon pebble]

Can you try in open world? I just cant get same results as you in practice range

[cyan tide]

Sorry for the bad gameplay, I usually play with controller

[neon pebble]

I cant even recreate it with cadenza stacks active

[cyan tide]

Is your Concerto maxed out? Also what shotgun/perks are you using?

[neon pebble]

Nothing on concerto effects the cadenza stack gain, all the cata boost its dmg buff only

[cyan tide]

I know but clearly something isn't adding up, just trying to see what's the difference between our builds

[neon pebble]

Line formation and Karmic

[neon pebble]

Im with ya on this, is it a bug or my skill issue 🤣

[stark forge]

its a gwynn issue

[cyan tide]

Mine is just built different 😎

[neon pebble]

Is it in your shotty mods?

[exotic sinew]

This is interesting

[neon pebble]

We need a 3rd to try now

[exotic sinew]

.> I don’t have her

https://tenor.com/view/tell-me-lies-gif-7285961314818952073

[obtuse chasm]

Sidearms in general need a buff

[exotic sinew]

Mesicku is good

There’s just not enough sidearm units

Only 1… same for fusion rifle

I think, and this would be awesome, after this void rapid we will have solar spread using fusion rifle and grenade launcher

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah but I can’t stand chapy and octant is kinda cheeks to and only really has one purpose

[exotic sinew]

Then arc impact with AR and a sword or something

We need a sword user, fusion rifle user, and sidearm user

[cyan tide]

I also tried with a different shotgun and different emanare buffs

[exotic sinew]

Then they can finally come out with trace rifle

[exotic sinew]

No concerto?

It’s free to get

It’s what she uses

[obtuse chasm]

I’ll build my Gwynn eventually to busy with my efrideet and ikora rn 😔

[exotic sinew]

You whale

I ain’t bother with going past 1 ascension; ever since I found out that’s all it takes for the drip

[obtuse chasm]

Tbh Gwynn is my only A4 all my others are A2 I’ll probably A5 efrideet as well just because I like her play style

[exotic sinew]

I have T6 everything but Gwynn and Maru

A1 on my favorite units: Efri/HH/Ikora

Considering Jaren

Imagine A6ing Jolder(there is one out there)

[obtuse chasm]

I’ll ascend every unit eventually but t6 has been costing to much for me recently to go all in on multiple characters, efrideet cost me about 500, and Gwynn was about 400

So I’m just going to prioritize getting all units t6 first

[exotic sinew]

I mean to ascend to A6 it’s more expensive than pulling

And talents give way way more power

I’d ascend overtime, and only for the ones you enjoy playing most

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah but I’m big on the drip lol I have to at least A1 a character after I t6 them

Need that sig

[exotic sinew]

I agree, why I’m considering Jaren

I didn’t like Maru’s playstyle much so she stayed T4

Gwynn felt too slow so she stayed T4

Jaren/Ikora/Efri were my speed and HH is too OP to pass on

[obtuse chasm]

I’m pretty much done spending for the most part other then the new character, idk if I like the sounds of their kit tho so I doubt I’ll prioritize ascension on them

[exotic sinew]

New characters will always get money from us

Unless they truly make them boring

There’s only been one part of the new character’s kit shown I thought

[obtuse chasm]

If they actually released some fire cosmetics they’d have my entire wallet tbh

But everything is kinda meh other then the recent crota skins

[exotic sinew]

They slack on cosmetics. The Crota ones were good. I got Jaren his

But they could take a page from Call of Duty Mobile

Their guns have tracer bullets who blow the enemy up and such

Kill effects

Their guns be on fire or iced up

https://tenor.com/view/outriders-neuron-activation-bone-lightning-goty-space-gun-gif-21016406

Imagine this

Ankara bone gun

https://tenor.com/view/taspatspro-ak47-csgo-skin-aquamarine-gif-17003250

[neon pebble]

Wth, why do we get diff results?

[exotic sinew]

These would be crazy cool in this game. They’re almost Arc/Solar/Void themed

I’d spend $5 on each one if they had kill effects too😅

[neon pebble]

Our phones will be on fire 🔥

More effects in an effect filled game that already lags

Shifting Gates with Vex Pool modifier is a death sentence. It eats MS espec when extra ads spawn at end

[polar summit]

Damn bro efrideet cost me 285 boats and I found that a lot lol

[empty kettle]

Ah, outriders

[cyan tide]

You never told me if your Concerto is maxed out, that's the only thing I can think of. I even tried in an LC and a strike and I'm still getting stacks without using Concerto

[polar summit]

I ascended Jaren and it really worth it imo

[exotic sinew]

What’s his ascension?

[exotic sinew]

Not at all

[polar summit]

A1

[exotic sinew]

Phones from 3 years ago will be

and I meant what is the buff

[polar summit]

8% dmg when dodge

For 6 secs

[exotic sinew]

I never lag anywhere on iPhone 16 pro

[polar summit]

Cooldown is 12

[neon pebble]

My concerto is not full maxed but I dont see anywhere for the hidden perk that would change its effect like that.

[exotic sinew]

They just need the option to turn visual effects down

Optimization goes a long way

I don’t think C3 would make the difference

[cyan tide]

I'm thinking they probably changed the last catalyst but forgot to update the description, we need someone else with C3 Concerto to test it out

[polar summit]

I only lag when batteries is low or phone is heat

[exotic sinew]

Also guys how long will Riskrunner be broken in a bad way

[neon pebble]

Max your graphics and max fps while in a discord call for 8 hours straight 😜

[exotic sinew]

These skins would be great in here. Fits great

[exotic sinew]

That’s just asking for lag

[neon pebble]

Yes, lets not make it worse. I have top of the line Snapdragon chip and like to do raid races.

[exotic sinew]

You’d just… not equip the skin guys

[neon pebble]

Nah randoms do what randoms want

Jaren drip goes hard

[neon pebble]

More visual effects heat phone faster is what I am getting at 😭

[neon pebble]

@naive ingot pleeeeease help us

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/wit-this-treasure-i-summon-gif-7159420719826018973

[bitter estuary]

Balls

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/plague-locusts-go-my-plague-go-my-plague-of-locusts-gif-5855236146033626943

[neon pebble]

I guess I could also farm those 90 cores and upgrade mine 😭

[bitter estuary]

Because mobile graphics are worse than pc/emu idk

Same chip would lag on a macbook neo

[neon pebble]

I play on a fold, i got 2 screens going at once

[cyan tide]

More like devs don't bother optimizing the PC version

[polar summit]

I’m considering on buying a red dragon 11 pro, it has its own liquid cooling sounds nice

[exotic sinew]

I disagree though, they should still release weapon skins that are awesome like that.
1.) people with older phone models are less likely to buy the skins anyway 2.) a few people lagging shouldn’t stop them from pushing out something that would sell
3.) if you truly do lag that much when it’s on, just unequip it during times you don’t want it on.
This is a minor issue that the majority won’t be effected by

Pros outweigh the cons

Give us sick weapon skins and give them now! (And an Efrideet one pls)

[neon pebble]

No, Samsung S26 is hands down best gaming chip, screen resolution, and camera not too mention forefront of AI tech. Biggest screen size also iirc

Samsung S26 is years ahead of newest Iphone

[exotic sinew]

Truly doubt a weapon skin like that would cause more lag

[neon pebble]

"Buy our skins that make you lag, you totally wont quit a game from lag"

[exotic sinew]

I don’t see them making the game lag

[neon pebble]

Kill effects and special animations on weapon skins?

[polar summit]

Honest verdict (no bias)

• Best for pure gaming:
  👉 RedMagic 11 Pro (not even close)
• Best all-around phone that can game:
  👉 Samsung S26

[empty kettle]

They would just lower the quality of it depending on the phone

[neon pebble]

A base skin decal no, and I also want to be able to put cosmetic decalz on my weapon skins

[polar summit]

Final recommendation

• If you play seriously (ranked, long sessions, competitive):
  ➡️ Go RedMagic 11 Pro
• If you want one phone for everything + gaming sometimes:
  ➡️ Go Samsung S26

[stark forge]

u still lag in this ps2 graphic game ?

[polar summit]

Important detail most people ignore

Even though both use similar chips, cooling = real performance

• Samsung = peak power (short bursts)
• RedMagic = sustained power (what actually matters in gaming)

[bitter estuary]

? it runs like really well though

but i do think lod’s being really high quality at a distance is an isssue for optimization so idk

[neon pebble]

Long gaming sessions will wear and tear if graphics are maxed

[exotic sinew]

Yeah I think this game can handle animated weapon skins

It already has one

[bitter estuary]

any phone with an 8 gen 5 or 8 elite gen 5 wont lag, basically

[stark forge]

why not play at lowest graphics

[exotic sinew]

Optimization exists

[neon pebble]

Ps2 graphics 💀

Like to see what I am playing

Screen recording, youtube in pop up window

Discodd in background

[bitter estuary]

if this game runs bad, look at division resurgance

[stark forge]

high and low settings not much different besides more bloom and lighting which hurts my eyes

[polar summit]

Battery

~4300mAh Samsung s26

~7500–8000mAh (massive) redmagic 11 pro

[neon pebble]

We dont discuss worst 10 mins of my life

[polar summit]

It’s not even a debate, redmagic is way better than s26 for gaming

[neon pebble]

So you buying the s26?

[bitter estuary]

different battery tech, not much of a difference irl bc redmagic will use a much higher tdp mode during gaming by default anyways

[exotic sinew]

They can bring out better optimization with these cool skins and extra finisher effects, it’s something that’s within the realm of possibility. Also, you don’t have to equip it at all. It’s a cosmetic, and more of them is better for the majority of the players. I’ve been seeing people say they wanted new finishing effects in submissions for a while now

[neon pebble]

He wont have the tools to make memes on redmagic 😭 my old Fold phone runs everything fine the new S26 blows my phone away

[stark forge]

if u want to see actual garbage performance try warframe mobile

[exotic sinew]

Minority of players making the calls is what causes games to not evolve

[neon pebble]

Where is my new content that doesnt disappear?

[exotic sinew]

That’s a majority want too

💀

[neon pebble]

Been asking for some real end game content for forever

[cyan tide]

I'm not talking about DR, this game doesn't even have a PC port. I'm talking about PC games in general, very often you find that the PC version runs worse than console and they have to improve performance in a later patch

[bitter estuary]

oh true

[neon pebble]

S4 pinnacle rework was already too much of an overhaul, we needed content months ago and even moreso now

[exotic sinew]

They took calamity away for cordon, which tbh I enjoy cordon more and expanse is expanded for sure but we do need 1 more endgame that’s a bit different. Bulwarks made me sleep a few times so, not that unless they spice it way up

[empty kettle]

Seasonal content come and go

[neon pebble]

We need an actual end game mode

[exotic sinew]

Shifting gates needs the next overhaul - 2 maps instead of 3 with 12 players max. Cut half the ranks off and combine PC + Mobile players on the queue

[neon pebble]

Just remove the bots

Remove the bots all of us PvP will go back in a heartbeat

20 min queues sucked, but all bot lobbies suck more

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[sullen depot]

they addded bots because of long queues though. removing bots wont help and pple will jut go back to complain about queues

[neon pebble]

I still cry tears over bot lobby SG

[exotic sinew]

Adept Strikes, Onslaught, Cordon, Expanse, Adept 3 Legendary Campaign is what’s considered endgame. We just need one more that’s special

Morgran’s Hunt is an endgame event, fun but they could have something else in rotation for when Hunt is off rotation

[neon pebble]

Those people werent playing for PvP, they were playing to farm. Its the only week long pvp mode, iron bar weekend only

[exotic sinew]

If they cut the overall pool to 12, cut half the ranks, and cut a map off. This would possible

[stark forge]

sure like ppl would come back to sg just to get 30 lumia a week

[neon pebble]

All in game since forever ago, bore. Why remove calamity shoulda kept it and just added cordon

[stark forge]

adept is a joke compare to old challenge mode

[neon pebble]

No, 3 maps is needed. High rank lobbies against premades would just allow an easy steamroll. Even with 3 maps you can roll map to map and wipe everyone

[empty kettle]

Calamity was terrible for most characters

[exotic sinew]

Also let us have preset bots. Allow us to choose 2 of our own units with the loadout we have on them as bots that can come in with us.

So if we go into a strike and it’s just us, our preset bots join. If it’s 2 players, it’s a 50/50 on which one it picks and it’ll pick the first preset option. In a raid, if there’s 2 players, both their bots will fill the other 4 slots up. If it’s 3, their 1st preset bot takes 1 slot each. So on

[neon pebble]

Does cordon spit out a couple thousand lumia every 2 weeks?

[exotic sinew]

Unless they just increase the size by 10% of each map and put a health packs in there

But that’s too close to PvP

[empty kettle]

No but it atleast doesn't leave most of the characters outside

[neon pebble]

It is the only PvP that allows talents and artifacts

[stark forge]

why not just make bots scale more op to power and activity instead of preset

making preset just complicated it

[neon pebble]

So we are cool with them taking free resources away like lumia? 😭 that was like 20draws a month for free

Could have left calamity and just added cordon, it didnt need replaced

[exotic sinew]

Agreed. Just make it so using unstuck was automated(no manual option) make deaths add 10 seconds to the timer

[empty kettle]

They can always Improve the cordon ops rewards

[neon pebble]

Make unstuck add time also tbh

[exotic sinew]

Because I would LOVE to play with 2 of my own units that I built up

[neon pebble]

Why not have both?

[exotic sinew]

If you get naturally stuck it takes time to unstuck

No manual unstuck = we can’t click it and unstuck

[neon pebble]

Yeah but if you got naturally stuck or die, you are resetting the run in Overseer

[neon pebble]

I said make unstuck add 10 seconds also...

[stark forge]

they can make any bots char good, just add more dps to them i see attal bots break every type of shinka in adept

[exotic sinew]

But if we get stuck we have to wait 20 seconds for it to work

So that’s already time lost

[neon pebble]

If we get stuck we resetting

Unstuck was just used to skip running, it encourage runners like Ning and Jaren to go ahead and skip rooms

Increase enemy difficulty, make unstuck and deaths penalize score

3 shinka types 😍

[exotic sinew]

I’d just make it so we can’t press unstuck ourself so we can’t force it

But I digress

3 shinka types would be true endgame

[sharp talon]

just have all 4

[neon pebble]

Low elo players will be upset because they dont reset when stuck, they just want a score

[stark forge]

shinka with all 4 shield type 🔥

[sharp talon]

arby paradise

also all 4 shinka all 3 shield

[neon pebble]

Double shielded I can see fr, imagine a spread precision shinka. Each drone has a precision dot 🤣 😭

[stark forge]

yes 4 shinka shield + element shield

[river vigil]

that on the shank enemies is ruthless

[neon pebble]

Bet, this works for off ele and off shinka also

[neon pebble]

Oh bro, imagine we had multiple diff types of precision shinkas thats a genius idea. Why are rapid fire always servitor and impact the brigands, etc.

[river vigil]

rapid is also ogres, precision being the sniper enemies makes sense tho

also technically hive knights can be impact but they're only in expanse

[neon pebble]

Would be cool to see someone trying to LFR or Sniper a melee precision enemy

[river vigil]

also I refuse to say impact shinkas are a real shinka type

[neon pebble]

Ikagine trying to snipe a point blank that runs around 😭

[river vigil]

imagine if they made cursed thralls impact shinka's

[neon pebble]

Bruhh diabolical

[stark forge]

so they just keep exploding until u break the shield ?

[river vigil]

breaking the shield would also trigger the detonation

[sharp talon]

we should have flying precision shinka

they should be able to wall bang as well

[stark forge]

bring those ikora bots from sg and make them corrupted lightbearer shinka

[thorny frost]

2,300 Lumia leaves every 3 weeks is possible. So 1,533 every 2 weeks.

[cyan tide]

So it technically gives more than calops

[sullen depot]

when the game finally makes u play legacy

[thorny frost]

It gives less then Overlord, if figuring in the achieve rank rewards we got once a season. I believe it is probably similar/slightly better than masters 2. But I forget the exact amount of the rank rewards we got.

[naive ingot]

Not in game till later. Motor racing to watch 😂

[thorny frost]

In general the Lumia leaves/pulls per season looks to have gone up in season 4.

[neon pebble]

I still dont know why we couldnt have just kept cal ops and added condor also. Not like the 2week/3week cycles didnt give us enough time to do both

Kept a speedrun and added an endurance

Im on straight emanare grind right now, I have to queue cordon with bots 💀 then grind 3/4 diff contents. Whats best one to start on the artifact refactors?

[thorny frost]

I don’t know what would of been better in all reality. Adding something basically as “just another strike” end game I don’t think is the answer. Maybe if one was a blitz and one was a strike it could have been good. I wouldn’t mind CalOps coming back for the speed runners. Could be remade as an event like Morgan’s Hunt.

In general season just need more end game content, even if it was just in a cycle like Morgan’s Hunt. Give us a more complicated Legacy for a defend an object end game.

[neon pebble]

Hmm, what about a weekly "fair play" trial so everyone can participate and gives some good rewards

[empty kettle]

They should add a permanent wave based mode where we have to defend haven from invaders

[empty kettle]

Something similar to into the light

[neon pebble]

Bulwark Ops without the turrets fr

[bitter estuary]

cordon makes it “seem” we have to switch team comps but in reality its just us switching weapons to the correct element or use the same comp

[neon pebble]

Now you have to do it with 4 diff lightbearers for full rewards, cal ops only required 1 lightbearer maxed

[bitter estuary]

true

[neon pebble]

Sameish rewards, less cadence (3 wks not 2 wks), 4x the requirement to complete

[thorny frost]

I think “Completing” is easier tho in general too as we aren’t in competition as much. It in the end has issues just like CalOps, but it is similar to what people asked for in the beginning. Less about speed running/competing, and allowed for more options of team composition.

[vocal vessel]

So here's a question. I'm 7 pulls away from efrideet but have helhest fully kitted out. Is it worth pulling her or waiting until whatever character comes next

[thorny frost]

If you don’t plan on ranking up her tiers I would wait. You will get Efrideet through the gem system at some point anyways. She does have a lot of advantages over HH tho too.

[river vigil]

if you already invested 53 pulls why are you asking that question?

you clearly wanted the character enough to do 53 pulls

[vocal vessel]

These are from other banners. Took a long break

[river vigil]

so you did 53 pulls on a different banner and decided to stop?

[vocal vessel]

Quit playing the game or logged in did a few free pulls a week and then forgot about it

[river vigil]

honestly from how it sounds it might not really matter who you summon for. If you have to ask if you should pull for the character you might as well just wait for a different banner since it doesnt seem to catch your attention

granted if your efri will be T0 you might not like her either'

[true basin]

Morning

[river vigil]

helhest has a lot of power installed into her talents so you would need more than just the base character since it doesnt seem like you're pulling her just for collection purposes

[pine verge]

Not that unusual

[river vigil]

it probably isnt, but from my pov I just find it weird to want a limited character enough to do 53 pulls but to not want it enough to try and get currency for the last 7 draws

[true basin]

Any Kabr mains in here?

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-cat-cat-meme-cute-cat-nuh-uh-gif-12188407309855220135

[river vigil]

you'd probably have to try and reach out to either q8 or silar on youtube if you wanted to find a kabr main

[cursive depot]

@karmic chasm the only one I know here

[true basin]

True, I wanna talk about his preferred build/playstyle

Kinda hard to test in the shooting range since power counts there.

[river vigil]

also which kabr?

[cursive depot]

sit behind wall and shoot

[true basin]

Mythic Kabr

[river vigil]

put on total lockdown+arbalest and shoot through the wall

the wall will also knockback melee enemies on deployment

if you run preponderant plasma in slot 3 make sure to press the beam every couple of seconds

[true basin]

Oh yea, I’m familiar with his kit. I’m more interested in his play style going for ability damage or weapon damage

[river vigil]

weapon damage

[true basin]

Artifacts specifically

[river vigil]

for 3 and 4 I do ramapaging pact/preponderant plasma + inspiring plasma weapon damage, damage bonus, solar boost, and signature

signature could also be super

[cursive depot]

id prob go calming over rampaging personally

[river vigil]

even behind the barrier I strafe a lot

I dont like standing still in any game

[cursive depot]

fair

[karmic chasm]

I mean only bc I have him t6. Currently Efri is still my highest

[neon pebble]

You mean Steve

[true basin]

😆

[neon pebble]

Steves T6 is insane, double wpn mastery

Mine is T5 😭

[true basin]

So any suggestions on attributes and artifacts?

[karmic chasm]

Yea he was awesome but I barely got to use him before the update

[neon pebble]

Uhhh do you like Arby?

[karmic chasm]

Unfortunately not 😭
All the ones I was using have better versions now

I have to start from scratch with him

[bitter estuary]

i only have steve at t3 🥀

[true basin]

Never walk into Arby’s, only door dash/uber eats

[karmic chasm]

Don’t. It always looks like someone is probably dead in the bathroom

[true basin]

I got him t6

[neon pebble]

Arby makes Steve clutch. I think the general Recco is TBA/Synco on Lassi for his primary

[true basin]

Real question is can Kabr do helhest damage?

[neon pebble]

No

[karmic chasm]

Wait why not Total Lockdown

[true basin]

“Not even close”

[neon pebble]

He can get new lights/f2p through precision content but isnt HH caliber of play

[karmic chasm]

Not really but he holds his own

He’s tough

[neon pebble]

If you dont own HH id recco Steve

I dont own T6 HH so I will use Steve

[neon pebble]

In race raids, Steve has been so solid in Crota and Great Hunt

He just has barrier utility like none other, he dont run and find cover he makes cover

[true basin]

Ah that makes sense

[neon pebble]

I think goal is to get a synco shot lined up with wpn mastery for the big boost

[karmic chasm]

I need to look into a build for him again

[neon pebble]

Im on Gwynn > Rossi > Steve lol

[sharp talon]

kabr 2 is worse than rossi?

[neon pebble]

My build order. I need to try Rossi with new bows in precision content then cry and cope with Steve

[golden spade]

How do u pick up the ball in this area 👇

[empty kettle]

Have you tried moving forward?

[golden spade]

Lol, I figured something i did it. Thanks

[empty kettle]

Np

[cyan tide]

After killing all the enemies outside the cube the yellow bar is supposed to walk out, your summons killed it before it could do that

They really need to make that enemy immune while inside the cube, I've seen so many people have that issue lol

[molten pulsar]

So... Why are we able to just go into the Leviathan?

[empty kettle]

Because it isn't the real deal

[molten pulsar]

I know that, but I mean without a mission...

[empty kettle]

Because we can?

[twilit thistle]

🤔 actually sounds like it would be fun. Can’t wait to see @bitter estuary’s ball tech when this is cordon

[bitter estuary]

we dont have a legendary campaign yet based on the new campaign idk, also there’s lumiflies there

[bitter estuary]

the distance the ball goes can be easily adjusted by how short or long you drawn your bow

[golden spade]

Ahhh! That's what happened. I cleared it though. Thanks

[cyan tide]

I still don't have that or the sparrow

[stark forge]

normal day in hvelgemir 💀

[red geyser]

Fusion Rifle does not work against the boss

[empty kettle]

I bet like 10k glimmer on casual chat, that the next banner is void

[red geyser]

|| 5*||

[tribal atlas]

Why cant I send img

[empty kettle]

Reach rank 2

[tribal atlas]

How do ik my rank

[dull socket]

Is there anyone here that have done the seasonal Iron bar Matches?

[bitter estuary]

mythics work but you have to be REALLY close

i think this a bug otherwise

[shy trench]

Hey Folks. So I dropped off several months ago and 'Pinnicle' grind was a main factor.
How have people been feeling since this was essentially removed? And how is the Fragment-driven mythic character change?

[bitter estuary]

new adept!

[frozen nimbus]

Worth it instead of the 20 extra pulls? Ikora is T1 🤔

[twilit thistle]

If only it had pachinko 😔

[dusty spire]

Never use unless it’s to break pity for limited otherwise best option is tier crystals

[bitter estuary]

balls

[twilit thistle]

Ikora has two variants. T0 to T5, and T6.

[dusty spire]

You can never go wrong with a crystal

[dusty spire]

So long your limited is acquired within 20 pulls that’s also another way to look at the exchange

[signal spade]

The 20 pulls is actually like 22 to sometimes 23 and unless you're using it to get ikora from 5 to 6 it's probably a waste to pump any resources into perma banner

Maybe kabr 6 too

[twilit thistle]

Not worth it imo if it’s a t1. Wouldn’t be relevant by the time she’s t6. The only char that gets support past EOL is helhest.

[signal spade]

Ya I mean you can bank le pulls for a while but the crystals imo are a waste

[red geyser]

Both of them works, exotic and mythic, only when you stick the gun to the boss's body. I just wanted to let the developers know about it.

[twilit thistle]

I’m surprised nobody figured out the shadowshaper tech. Way faster than sparrow racing

[slow ridge]

Finally my gwenn is born!!! Let’s go!!

[bitter estuary]

fair

[frozen nimbus]

Thanks for your responses!

[neon pebble]

Sweet, got a cool triumph

[cyan tide]

No weapons tho

[river vigil]

if I can't increase the parameters I dont want to afk

[cyan tide]

If you like playing for longer and having things to grind for then the new system is a lot better. You can actually get a full artifact set in a day if you're willing to farm for it, and there's more incentives to grind for weapons unlike before. There's still some time gated stuff like adept mods and some resources but there's no big bottlenecks for the most part.

As for the fragments, it doesn't replace pulling for characters from the gacha in any way. You get very few condensates from farmable sources in a weekly basis and they're random so it will take a long time to get enough to unlock a single character. You can get 40 universal condensates for completing seasonal objectives but those will only become available near the end of the season and it seems like they're deleted once the season ends so you can't hoard them for future characters

[molten pulsar]

Ngl, expanse 40 with Wolf is garbo and just reaffirms that this game is garbo for being gacha.

[cyan tide]

I'm down to 6k 😔
I had like 30k at the start of the season

[signal spade]

40 rapid or spread

[elder wing]

HH.Efri. Jaren. Ikora

[cyan tide]

Insane skips, can you do it with Efrideet?

[twilit thistle]

It rlly didn’t save that much time 😂 it’s just easier.

[river vigil]

just do the right side skip

[twilit thistle]

As long as u take out the shinka u can do it with anyone

[cyan tide]

Ngl idk any of the skips lol, I just run it legit

[past swan]

how many days has it been since spike shell

[twilit thistle]

@sullen depot can u test the efficiency of in there? That’s why I am documenting it.

[sharp talon]

havent gotten a thermo with the precision upgrade in a week

i just afked sparrow for several hours and got nothing 😭

[cyan tide]

I keep getting thermo with double upgrade but for fraternity

[sharp talon]

ye fraternity and reincarnation for me or eager aspirant

[cyan tide]

Exactly, anything but the perks I need

[twilit thistle]

I get the same. It’s frat for guns I don’t want, and never for primaries. Or it’s the stuff I need, but as a 4 star. Or even two guns with the rolls I want, split across both guns.

[bitter estuary]

i have 207 exotic parameters idk why

[sharp talon]

😡 this weapon grind is crazy

[neon pebble]

Octant is broken

[bright trellis]

[sullen depot]

in where?

[past swan]

expanse 40 spread is so god dam annoying how do they genuinely design these areas for there to be nothing to hide behind against for cover

[river vigil]

Your character has to be built Ford tough

[sullen depot]

which boss was that again?

[past swan]

fallen

[sullen depot]

oh the 3 stage boss or the shank one?

[past swan]

shank

[sullen depot]

aah that one u go up the ramp and just shoot ur LGL/RL from there and use ur skills

they dont get u there

[past swan]

ik

wat

what ramp bro

[sullen depot]

the ramp to the right far into the stage

just go to that side and shoot from there

[past swan]

ads cant reach me?

[sullen depot]

the ads dont go there

they can shoot at u but u can hide behind the small ball thingy

[past swan]

what is the proper damage phase with ikora

[naive ingot]

What is it to stage 50? Void or arc. As atm solar impact brings me pain

[past swan]

also ion got truth since i dropped the game since it was stale

[sullen depot]

bascially u get the boss low enough were he moves to the back and from there just go to ramp side and its a breeze

also whats up with NA not getting spike shell at all so far this week after reset

https://tenor.com/view/fry-face-close-up-gif-21997603

[past swan]

Fr

idt its that bad running steel plate and boxer tho

esp with the power being lowered

[sullen depot]

oh yeah with the power nerf. steel plate and born equal are all good. just weird there hasnt been spike shell at all

i just dont wanna deal with minotaur, servitor and hydra boss cuz spike shell takes em out

[past swan]

Yea a bit more time consuming

[fickle veldt]

About the Gunsmith and other vendors, do I need to be a certain team level or do certain missions to unlock it? I’m currently team level 25 if it matters, I just started Rising last night

[neon pebble]

40-50 is void, i did it at 96k power. 50-60 is solar again 😭

[sullen depot]

here you go. just shoot from here

got lucky an got the boss first attempt in chaos

[past swan]

thanks was kinda confused on where it was ngl since i never really went there

[dusty spire]

Soon

Scorch party

[red geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/shaax-destiny-destiny2-titan-good-jop-gif-19587342

[dusty spire]

We soon come! Just wait

Hope your saving

[naive ingot]

They skip arc lol 😭😭

[naive ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-gif-21843382

[dusty spire]

Slapping the ask…..

Straight

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-2-void-titan-sentinel-titan-titan-destiny-2-titan-gif-2584498198664761916

[dusty spire]

Wait what ???? Void axe?

Stop playing with me

It’s now obvious

[empty kettle]

Twilight garrison

[dusty spire]

Netease is saving bangers

Obviously

[red geyser]

I didn't save as much as you but after I get Xuan Wei 5 stars and Shaxx, I'll start saving until a character I like comes

[dusty spire]

I’m with you waiting on the big titan drops

Imo it’s gonna be summer

Might not be Saladin but it’s gonna be some
Type
Of solar titan 🙂

Won’t be finnala lol even though I like her

She can be like next years January filler

[grizzled sentinel]

how long has it been since you've played destiny 2

[dusty spire]

Only played day 1 destiny

Loot cave blah blah

By third dlc I think I was gone lol

[red geyser]

I won't mind waiting a long time. it will give me enough time to save silver to max the new feature ascend for mythic characters.

[dusty spire]

Maximum potential xuan wie 5*

👌🏾💯

[red geyser]

Indeed

[dusty spire]

I think someone is building maximum potential Gwynn

I wanna see that

I think they A4 atm

[naive ingot]

I'm at A2... But my poor wallet 😭

[dusty spire]

So… we can complete all phases without pulling or activating the new hero’s?

Something tells me you need atleast 1

[west violet]

I would not surprised when Gwynn performs very decent

[dusty spire]

This is what I’m thinking, just waiting for confirmation

Can’t believe I’m skipping a titan looking hero though

[west violet]

Yep. Her A lvl’s looks juicy

[dusty spire]

Big boost compared to others

Huntan looking like

[west violet]

She is a ability spam so it should be go very hard

[dusty spire]

Next banner better get a decent reveal lol

Neteas has stoped back on those

[twilit thistle]

By using the oob you should be able to get to the boss faster as helhest, and with more ammo. This should prove useful if you can get a clear in less than 2:30 consistently

@sharp talon on a scale of 1-10 how bad is the next section going to hurt?

[sullen depot]

@twilit thistle spotted

this is with me messing up my jumps and using arby but yeah can consistently get 2:30 with RC instead

[hollow gazelle]

An entire expansion and charachter didnt so i doubt so i doubt we will get one

[bitter estuary]

balls

[hollow gazelle]

Cubes

[naive ingot]

Purple ones

[bitter estuary]

i wish i was this quick but i have no t6 hh

[molten pulsar]

Rapid

[bitter estuary]

so i do sub 3 min relevations instead balls

[bitter estuary]

true

[wheat barn]

I’m alr on 60 lmao Jaren made it so easy

[twilit thistle]

I’ll give it a test later when I have time to grind 50. There’s a rock u can get on and probably spray RC shots on, hitting the first wave of ads. Those coming out of the ship, and the snipers. I’d then probably use the super, and run to the dregs/vandal. idk about the shinka tho 🤔

[obtuse chasm]

She’s still kinda mid with her ascension, not worth investing in still viable but only after you’ve spent 600+ isn’t really ideal

I jokingly pushed her to A4 and will go for A5 but her ascension barely makes her playable

[sullen depot]

ayo gen calling her mid...who are you!! give me the real Gen

[shy trench]

Thank you this is good to know.
I have no problem with grinding, but the progression gating was hard to mentally push through.

I actually had pretty good luck with Character rolls so no real issue there
I may give things another shot.

[neon pebble]

Rossi OP af

[bitter estuary]

imagine rossi pre-mahamayuri nerf

[karmic chasm]

This looks good on her but I really don’t want to put glows on her till a recolor drops

[karmic chasm]

Rossi will old Maha and new bows would be a menace

[fiery marsh]

I think i broke the game .__.

[bitter estuary]

cly3 NAE+maha = bomb

[sullen depot]

wasnt the maha nerf only nerfing maha damage to breaking other shinkas?

[fiery marsh]

107 mil somehow bois

117*

[west violet]

Then it’s def not worth to go all the way. I thought her A lvl would have more impact. I used T6 at impact expanse 40-50 and 50-60 and it was a easy walk and thinking at A1 she will shred 60-70. But sounds mid. Thx for the heads up much appreciated

[karmic chasm]

It was nerfed in PvP as well

And I think it was too heavily nerfed against shinkas, but that’s just my opinion. And that was before I was so invested in Rossi

[sullen depot]

oh yeah. i dont do pvp much so i forgot about that pvp nerf cuz yeah i know ning was taking over SG and all

[twilit thistle]

You can transfer

[sullen depot]

gotta blame ning for the shinka nerf. cuz i think every expanse was all ning cuz of how easy maha could shinka break (rapid, piercing and impact). now we have Efrideet with crimson. i wonder if they gonna nerf that soon

[karmic chasm]

If they nerf crimson I’m genuinely quitting again

Devs hate fun

[sullen depot]

will see as its a possibility. they shadow nerfed Gallows in breaking spread shinkas somewhat. its not as easy as before

[bitter estuary]

balls

[obtuse chasm]

I doubt they’ll nerf it, without competition crimson falls short by itself

[eager flax]

artifacts?

[fiery marsh]

Dunno its a secret sauce build i huess

Guess*

[thorny frost]

That is a level thing. Basically once the shinkas orbs health gets raised to much it falls off.

[karmic chasm]

Well exactly it’s not that OP and it’s my favorite sooooo

[fiery marsh]

Takes a whole clip to pop a spread shinka in cordons now.

[thorny frost]

A weapon being able to handle 2 shinkas ok isn’t a bad thing. It is when it starts handling 3 shinkas that it becomes an issue imo.

[fiery marsh]

The partridge sky is beast mode cause its the highest damaging spread/impact weapon in the game

Only that sword can 1 hit pop shinkas now

[indigo solar]

There have been some weird damage bugs recently, like lgls sometimes triggering 3 explosions at once

The damage numbers don't line up with the damage screen tho

So most likely just a firing range bug

[fiery marsh]

Shhhh.. ppl dont need to know that xD

I wanna look OP

With inverted fury + bellicose planetismal, weapon, damage, solar boost. Can hit for 2 mil. So with partridge sky, its the only weapon that can 1 tap shinka shields

Otherwise gonna have to mag dump vs spread or impact with other weapons

[thorny frost]

I personally don’t see it being nerfed. It mainly becomes so strong I believe due to Efrideet reload/RoF buff, it has never shined much before now.

[twilit thistle]

Realistically, every char can handle all shinkas. Its not easy, i spent over 5 hours on spread yesterday. If anything the char that gets the furthest should get nerfed 😇 game would be a better place

[visual rain]

Now do 60 rapid as ikora to back up your claims

[thorny frost]

Or we should have game modes that make their advantage less so XD. I don’t have any real experience with Efrideet tho so I am not sure if that is as possible.

[sullen depot]

yeah i wanna see maru vs rapid shinkas and then u cansay that lol

[river vigil]

I mean I think she can handle it 1 damage at a time

[visual rain]

Nah bro wardcliff tech 🔥

[sullen depot]

nah wardcliff is not good higher in expanse i tried

the rapid shield takes ur entire reserve and still aint broken

[twilit thistle]

||❤️‍🔥 U||

[sullen depot]

do it in higher exanpse when the shields are more stronger i.e

[visual rain]

And time limit

[twilit thistle]

I would but i have been trying to get that to drop since s2. still havent gotten the right roll.

[visual rain]

Idk if ikora even gets past 60 rapid tbh

Someone please feel free to prove me wrong because it'd be funny

[twilit thistle]

Neither can spear lady. They arent using crimson for that, either.

[sullen depot]

i tried her 60-70 rapid originally with WCC and couldnt break the rapid shinka.

[visual rain]

?

Wdym efri can't

[twilit thistle]

Convo was originally about crimson. She gets past that with old perfect.

[river vigil]

I used crimson

you can use either or tho

[visual rain]

Who tf is using old perfect

[river vigil]

crimson is technically safer

[thorny frost]

I now need to try out Ikora on expanse shinkas with cluster … that means I might have to actually push again lol

[sullen depot]

well efri was ableto bring crimson back to life. there must be a futrue out there for old perfect .....right......lul

[visual rain]

Not when we got ted

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[thorny frost]

Finnala 5*, causes explosions when ever you hit someone scorched

[river vigil]

maybe

[dusty spire]

She will definitely come back a offensive variant

[river vigil]

then the 5 finalla mains will have a character people think isnt troll

[visual rain]

She'll just end up like kabr 2

[dusty spire]

Kabr 2 is solid

[visual rain]

But not really the best at anything either

[dusty spire]

Maybe not flashy but he’s solid

[river vigil]

we have 2 whole people making kabr expanse videos now

kabr is eating

[dusty spire]

He makes things “simple”

[sullen depot]

ultimately depends on the ability they give her. kabr is solid cuz of the 3 shields he can put up. u might not clear fast but u will clear in due time lol

[visual rain]

Probably makes 73 piercing not hell

I gotta get back in there today and finish it 💔

[twilit thistle]

If kabr 2 had anything but a lfr id be a kabr 2 enthusiast

[river vigil]

I feel like the lfr is a big part of why he's good

[sullen depot]

arby!

[river vigil]

the great equalizer

[dusty spire]

Now I just swing inverted on Ning and just clear expanse 50 lol all rounded set get passed around lol

[twilit thistle]

Introducing helhest

[dusty spire]

Fake difficulty will get opened up once we get to the later phases

Just wondering what that late phase game looks like

Might be a real walk in the park for most heroes lol

Stress for nothing

[river vigil]

everyone farming mobius clusters for adept mod levelling

[dusty spire]

I want SG to get back into actives now

I want pvp

Flex 24/7

I wanna see meta and community engagement around SG

[visual rain]

No thanks

[dusty spire]

Pve loop has been shown ok cool we can progress now let’s work on SG

[river vigil]

sadly I just dont enjoy shifting gates

[dusty spire]

It’s not for everyone

[twilit thistle]

They euthanized the community for sg. Used to be the most active, and stayed loyal the longest. Over 90% of them quit, and have not logged in since.

[river vigil]

I'll probably run it to finish the seal soon but after that and the 20 lumiflies I will act like it doesnt exist

it feels too slow for me

[dusty spire]

But it has the potential for players who are intent

[visual rain]

Weren't u one of them too

[dusty spire]

It’s a shame because it’s a really good moba game mode

[sullen depot]

rising will always be a pve game first for most pple before pvp. they need to drop the player count to 12 needed instead of 18 to first before making any other adjustments

[twilit thistle]

The best umeko, that didnt rely on others for carries/protection.

[visual rain]

Destiny as a whole will always be pve for me

[dusty spire]

Yup same concept just make a medium sized arena

4 (3 player teams)
Jungle route
Main zone
2 boss zones

[thorny frost]

I wonder what would happen if they dropped shifting gates to like 3 groups of 2.. but left some rougue bots in there also. Would a 6 person que be small enough to work?

[dusty spire]

They just need to make it smaller

That’s all but keep everything the same

It’s a good game mode and could easily be a fun run

[thorny frost]

Well that is basically what I am saying. Make it so you need 6 people to do it, 3 groups of 2. Then you also have random bots in each area to add a little randomness to it as well

[twilit thistle]

Should repurpose and rework shifting gates, so that it is more like chaos (if they are going to do it). Instead of artifacts, the focus being weapons. Weekdays its shifting, weekends its iron bar, which also needs reworked.

[dusty spire]

Shame I couldn’t see peak competitive play

[thorny frost]

I am just not sure if 3 groups of 3 (9) would be able to get the people atm.

[dusty spire]

It weren’t built to even offer that imo even though it does have the potential

[dusty spire]

Easily

You already got iron banner players, if the PvP is good enough they will utilise both modes

Even encourage them to spend as SG is Tier included

[thorny frost]

I am not sold that it would be, it isn’t pure pvp so there will be a group of pvpers who will stay far away from it

[dusty spire]

Yeah some

Don’t need all

You just want healthy participation

Not a transfer lol

[thorny frost]

We need to fix ques tho first. Allow us to do solo content while qued

[twilit thistle]

Oh its pure pvp in sg (if you want to win). Thats the biggest downfall of it, and why people disliked it so much. I have tried to only do pve, its half as much as i can get by just farming bots.

[dusty spire]

Facts, and with the integrated discord functions we get closer to that qol experience

[rotund flame]

Any tips for stage 50? The mobs are so annoying. Only thing stopping me from beating it. No wonder everyone hates infinity scaling in this game

[thorny frost]

Until I can farm chaos while qued for like shifting gates/Iron bar I think there will always be some roadblocks.

[dusty spire]

What weapon ?

[visual rain]

Get higher power

[neon pebble]

1. Merge mobile and PC lobbies
2. Global Merge with server stabilization

[rotund flame]

Lol impossible but sure 🗿

[dusty spire]

Yeah I don’t mind playing with pc

[twilit thistle]

When it was still pvp, I was known for assassinating whoever had the nucleus too. (izi can 1 shot anything)

[dusty spire]

Don’t know why that ain’t a thing

Well I kinda do

[thorny frost]

This too, I just know I would que for more group content if I could also do chaos/legendary at the same time

[sullen depot]

global server merge is a BADD idea if u are tallking from a pvp standpoint. lag will kill it easily

[dusty spire]

But still

[visual rain]

So you're already 105k+?

[neon pebble]

Im NA and play on my EMEA alt 75 ms

[bitter estuary]

new adept

[twilit thistle]

💀 4 star

[rotund flame]

The pierce one. Is there a safe spot to shoot the boss ? Feels like i get pushed by like 4 yellow bars and I can't focus the boss

[twilit thistle]

That feeling when you have what u want but realize ur not even done yet

[visual rain]

Which one is 50 pierce is it the captain

[bitter estuary]

idc if you have an adept and the new weapon has 1:1 perks you can transfer all the perks to the next gun

[thorny frost]

There are people on 4G/5G playing PvP (definitely not me XD) I think we already are dealing with some latency issues.

[rotund flame]

Yeah, apparently your always going to be under leveled anyway. Only going to get worse with increasing phases 😭

[visual rain]

Nah at 100k+ stage 50 is light work

[twilit thistle]

ye. its just the cost of upgrading it 😭

[neon pebble]

On phone btw

Keep telling you guys they stabilized servers in S4

I can hop into emea iron bar and be 75-100 ms

[twilit thistle]

Has been 80 or so for me since s2 but i never had issues. My poor emea alt was like #8 umeko or something, and i was 2 or so days from hitting max 😔 then they sunset that accounts artifacts.

[thorny frost]

If they did do that they put a lot into this season 4…. But no budget for promoting >.>

[twilit thistle]

I still think they need to buff f2p.

[neon pebble]

They didnt really advertise at launch

1st anni will be the big one

[thorny frost]

I still love the launch trailer

[sullen depot]

i still saw way more ads at launch than whatever s4 is which is nothing

[twilit thistle]

Well financially I can tell you why they are doing this.

[neon pebble]

Thats ok, game is trying to regrow. Too soon to draw people back, still need more

[thorny frost]

For conversation what is a good rate for F2P generation do you think? I know light spenders (on average) could in theory get 1 T6 a season now for like 10 dollars a month.

[sullen depot]

im enjoying it so far. my one thing is they need to still fix/improve adept strike/blitz rewards. cuz outside the weekly, there is no point running them or any improvement

i hope it isnt the same when prestige gauntlet comes phase 8

[visual rain]

Adept strikes too easy

Boring

[twilit thistle]

Our only hope is that they have a long term plan for the game. (which is what i suspect would be the best plan).

[sullen depot]

exactly. like actually make it harder and bump the rewards imo

[thorny frost]

So disappointed in the adept strike and blitz. They needed to have the 2% be the farmable amount and added a higher chance to weekly

[twilit thistle]

I just checked, my alt which is underleveled is getting less xp than my main. For one.

It has the boost, too.

[sullen depot]

like mythic weapons u get when doing adept should come with a guranteed perk at least

haveing a weapon drop without a perk in adept is atrocious

[visual rain]

Get T6 for $10 how

[thorny frost]

I feel like season 4 implies they are attempting to, a rework like this isn’t something for a quick “cash grab” I feel.

[thorny frost]

10 dollars a month, so 30 dollars a season.

[visual rain]

Just from blessing?

[thorny frost]

Blessing and battle pass

[visual rain]

Hmmm

Intriguing

[thorny frost]

They added more currency and if you use the 40 shards to get the first copy it is enough to get it (on average)

[visual rain]

The condensates?

[thorny frost]

Yea

[neon pebble]

Engram shards

[visual rain]

Can those be used only for first copy or any talent too

[bitter estuary]

i only do blessing and bp

so far its very generous, i am always against “crappier weapons than weapon banner in the premium bp” and it feels more valueable here since its more value for money

[neon pebble]

No talent

[bitter estuary]

only t0/base

[visual rain]

Well that sucks

Although if they're the universal ones I can start doing that next banner right

[neon pebble]

Sure

[narrow ibex]

Are you using Efrideet?

[twilit thistle]

Hopefully they are now focused solely on content that brings in money. As fun as the story is, that isnt going to encourage someone to spend money (something they are getting used to). Just like leaving helhest with no other char to match her, isnt going to be bringing in money. Honestly I think the unlocking characters is ridiculous. By the time you level, you should have enough to unlock numerous char. Ill cut myelf off there bc i could rant on this for over an hour.

[neon pebble]

Write a book

[twilit thistle]

We need to get the new players in activates as soon as possible is what I am saying. And probably need to focus more on activities that include them.

[indigo solar]

Efri go brrr

[neon pebble]

More "fair play" end game modes

[visual rain]

TRUE

Leave cordon and expanse as is but add a 3rd one that doesn't get removed after 2 weeks

I've said this at least 5 times but why tf does the hard mode raid disappear

[twilit thistle]

And let them have someone that they can get attatched to. I dont care about a f2p player that is having fun, and actually attached to the game they play. I go into a lobby, and they start complaining upon seeing the a1.

[thorny frost]

Only first copy, but copy paste incoming for my numbers.

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar

[visual rain]

Standing by for copy paste

[thorny frost]

….. auto mod killed

[visual rain]

😭

DM me it if u want

[twilit thistle]

aw did it kill it?

[thorny frost]

Figuring out how to change my note pad color to dark to not blind people one sec

[visual rain]

Or just upload the txt file maybe

[rotund flame]

Sorry for the late response, I left and switched to a void primary. This time i killed the yellow elites and had a easier time shooting the boss for free

[visual rain]

Void primary on efri...?

[visual rain]

Why not just use magoichi

[thorny frost]

I just had my phone still set in light mode, just took me a second to remember where I change it at XD

[rotund flame]

It wasn't fully built. Plus i think i do more damage to the boss with the raid sniper

[visual rain]

You'd don't need it for the damage that's what crimson is for

[narrow ibex]

Glad to hear

[rotund flame]

Another weapon i don't have built. The economy for exotic weapons is rough out here 😭

[visual rain]

Oh if you don't have crimson maxed then gl

[rotund flame]

Take a wild guess 🗿

[visual rain]

Actually there's ted too

[dusty spire]

Kinda needed this, trying to think what the discounted price would be now that I’ve hoarded lumi…

So if I put up 130 boats worth and paid for the remainder what would be the discounted amount

[twilit thistle]

the cost to a5 is absurd. I think its 265 shards right? I am litterally looking at my calcualtor that was still open. 180 per shard. 180*40=7200 silver. If it is 265, thats 47,700 silver to a5.

[rotund flame]

I never built and hand cannon before edfreddit release

[sullen depot]

i mean if u spening for a5 is more of a whale thing tbh so i dont mind that

[visual rain]

Me neither lol

[sullen depot]

a5 ainy necessary

[visual rain]

Been grinding away at crimson for a while but trust me it's worth it

[dusty spire]

I think that came in because they noticed players can do this

[twilit thistle]

its just ridiculous how much it cost to me bc unlike the rest there is no rng there.

[dusty spire]

So now they added an extra layer

[rotund flame]

So is that her best in slot? Is it better than the bp weapon? Would hate to waste resources i barely have lol

[dusty spire]

Because right now the Gwynn rerun is on discount for me if I decided to just throw 100 boats in and pay the rest since I accumulated

[signal spade]

I don't think they care about leaf hoarding they just want there to be a final boss to swipe for leaderboard addict whales

[sullen depot]

nah imo the cost is fine especially since u dont need it to playthe game. i have seen way worse in other games. if the game needs something to make money off whales, i mfine with that

[visual rain]

90% certain it's the best for her yeah

[thorny frost]

Yea… A5 I consider as a long time goal, or for the biggest of whales XD. It can be achieved at any point at least after their release so I am ok with the slow grind.

[visual rain]

But if you're gonna build ted for jaren you can just use it for efri too

[dusty spire]

Definitely an extra layer

[rotund flame]

You pair that with the new sniper correct?

[visual rain]

Yes

[signal spade]

The entirety of Ascension 5 is worse than like a single talent point on most characters

[thorny frost]

I guess? Keep in mind this is average tho. You could get unlucky, and have to pull 300+ times still.

[sullen depot]

character->talents->ascension. if u wanna truly max ur character. thats a whale territory

[signal spade]

Ya esp when they give you a free path to a1 like two characters a season

[dusty spire]

So adjust the avrg mean to say 300 so 150 boats and then pay the 150 boats, still better than the original asking price right? As it’s a rerun

Tbf players had journey bundle during the first releases

A lot of that got used on HH 😅

I bet

[thorny frost]

Release Journey bundle definitely is better than our current version.

[bitter estuary]

i finally maxed out all of my character's relic abilities LMAO

[dusty spire]

Silly hoarder holding these relics lol

[twilit thistle]

Surprised they are so stingy on it. Its not even that big of a difference, that dmg is always conditional, and depending on the circumstance, almost always does nothing. The odds of an a5 outperforming an a1 in something meaningful are almost 0.

[visual rain]

Take a look at gwynn A5

[sullen depot]

exaclty and thats why its a whale territory. its not necessary and just something for whales to be able to spend money on

[dusty spire]

That’s for Saladin

[obtuse chasm]

I second this

[twilit thistle]

Introducing the gifts of the nine, and cordon's whatever u call it.

[dusty spire]

Once my boy turns up it’s game

Impact / blast

[twilit thistle]

To get the most out of a char, you also have to essentially get carpel tunnel from the mines.

[visual rain]

Already did that with beat saber now what

[thorny frost]

And I think that is why they are slightly “stingy” it won’t for the most part make or break a player, and the first ascension is the biggest. So it is something that while P2W is more of just something that Whales can flex a bit more. If this is what it took to add more Lumia leaves/boats for us to get I won’t complain (for now).

[obtuse chasm]

Anyone got a max halaetus and a max conversion for efrideet? Trying to see what is better ultimately thinking of running conversion with crimson for expanse and Halaetus for cordon but wondering if maybe due to heavy efficiency and if running without a hellhest if ultimately conversion may be the better pick in general for both

[dusty spire]

This game is seriously generous

[twilit thistle]

😭 they gave them out for those who had pinnacle tho, which pretty much ruined it for whales.

[dusty spire]

Even at minimum spend I think you get quite a bit for overtime

[visual rain]

I don't have halaetus but I find myself using crimson like 90% of the time so the bonus 40% dmg is massive

Expanse i really only use sniper for shield or boss dmg

But still mostly crimson

[obtuse chasm]

I’m gunna go for both eventually but was hoping someone did some testing in higher cordon with it to save me a bit of time 😔

[obtuse chasm]

Same

Other then that it’s just spear and crimson spam

[sullen depot]

they gave em out for those that spent money on pinacle (correction). so thats still a money spending thing

[visual rain]

But also I don't think the 40% is actually what it says it is... It seems that it is NOT just a multiplier on everything else

It was more like 28% last I checked

[obtuse chasm]

I agree, was doing some testing with Ted and it was definitely not what I expected to get from it

[visual rain]

Ted is also weird on efri apparently

[obtuse chasm]

How so

[visual rain]

People were saying it's only like 35-40%

[thorny frost]

I believe the conversion rate was very similar to 180 silver worth of pinnacle = 1 universal shard right? (I forget the exact amount you could buy pinnacle for in the shop).

[visual rain]

But I guess that would make her too OP lol

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah it’s definitely not 100%

I was originally a crimson main but switched to ted for cordon carries im missing my crimson tho 😔

[sullen depot]

yeah TED is better on jaren that efri

[twilit thistle]

Most people had about 2k that i knew. Imagine if i had saved all 5000 pinnacle 😂

[sullen depot]

and thats fine if u did. u spent the money to get those pinnacles in the first place. just as pple spend money to ascend

[twilit thistle]

oh i had that much saved, i just didnt know what they were going to do (and spent 5k over the course of the last 2 days)

[thorny obsidian]

wait what,.,,, this was a conversion when u still had saved up pinacle?

[sullen depot]

for only the yellow pinnacle which required money spent to get

[thorny obsidian]

yeah i had hella of those. spend all on final week LOL

[twilit thistle]

Worst way they coulda handled that imo

[thorny frost]

Yea when I saw you burnt through all of yours I felt bad after they announced what was happening :/

[exotic imp]

so the 5 minute runs are still bugged?

[twilit thistle]

i waited till the last days bc I didnt know what theyd do. Suprised they didnt just convert it to the brown tokens like they converted what I farmed 😭

[thorny frost]

I was expecting them to convert to the 2X drop things

[sullen depot]

if there is no spike shell in chaos tomorrow i know Netease def doesnt like how easy that made farming lol. 1 weeek without spike shellwill be crazy

[bitter estuary]

i literally have no engrams left LMAO post new weapon system got me

[bitter estuary]

its fixed

[thorny frost]

Oddly I think a lot of us have found a few other ones that are fairly close XD. If it wasn’t for the bosses born equal I could consistently get down to under a minute. Mino/hydra bosses are the worst.

[sullen depot]

yeah the power nerf def made the rest easier again. just sus how they took spike out of rotation still, unless they did it temporarily to test and collect data on how the others do with the power nerf

[river vigil]

thankfully sparrow racing afk while cleaning/watching shows is slowly solving that issue for me

[bitter estuary]

same i’ve made a dozen weapons to adept alr lol

[twilit thistle]

Multiplayer chaos when

[river vigil]

I want a way to reroll chaos blessings after you get past floor 9 I hate doing 2 hours of resets and not getting the setup I want

[thorny frost]

I was thinking we should be able to buy a preset for our first picks with the coins they give us.

The second round of blessing still rng

[sullen depot]

make strange coins useful again

[twilit thistle]

imagine if it were finished and we had enough to support that. Reminds me of a half baked binding of isaac clone.

[polar summit]

😄

[polar summit]

Max conversion 100%

But get these 3 nonetheless

[obtuse chasm]

That’s what I was thinking was just wondering if haelaetus would be good as a situational mod to have on standby

Yeah that was the plan

Also ignore the ted it’s what I’m running for lower power content carries rn like cordon 10 and below

I run crimson for 11+

[polar summit]

Swap that horizon mag

[obtuse chasm]

Nah horizon is goated

[polar summit]

It doesnt work

Unless u manual reload

[obtuse chasm]

They fixed that already

In the last patch notes

[polar summit]

They say the fixed but they didn’t

See for yourself in practice range

[obtuse chasm]

Eh I’ll leave it slotted for now until I finish with titanium

[polar summit]

Until it’s fixed the old 15% mod is the bis

[shy trench]

Posted this in the Emulator Guide but figured I'd Drop it here

Trying to Run an update on the game in MuMu from 1.2.58451425 to 1.3.61485375 (Haven't played since December.)
Update just sits there forever and it not completing.
MuMu is v5.3.3 running the Android 12, 10 Cores 6 GB

[obtuse chasm]

“Efrideet main” is just a cosmetic

[shy trench]

Went into the MuMu Store to the app page and it shows just spinning on "Pending"

[polar summit]

It hurts me that u ascended Gwyn to 5 and not efrideet to 6 lol

[visual rain]

@twilit thistle new surrounded PB

nvm just got 2:37

[shy trench]

OK, Did a 'Clear Cache' on the Google Play Store, restarted MuMu and it looks like the update was able to complete

[obtuse chasm]

I’ll do both

Just did Gwynn for the memes since my efrideet is already good enough to push

At A2

[obtuse chasm]

Stop talking in disc and carry me through these frontlines so I can work and afk 😭

[karmic chasm]

I love afking the boss area of frontlines

[obtuse chasm]

Only losers afk (I afk half the time I’m on the game 😔)

[visual rain]

man i love when efri's dash bugs and doesnt recharge

[neon pebble]

"Its p2w"

[visual rain]

bro why does this wizard have to run in front of the shinka RIGHT as i pop it

73 is such rng man its bs

[bold fog]

got another 10 in expanse but hit another wall
70 sounds rough. what level is it?

[visual rain]

I HAD A GOOD RUN AND IT FKNG HAPPENS AGAIN

I WOULD LOVE IF I COULD DASH GAME

[visual rain]

114k

[bold fog]

0_0

how do yall afford the climb when you need to element swap?

[visual rain]

AGAINAGIJN

[visual rain]

efri with crimson and swap sniper when needed for void

MY DASHES ARE NOT WORKING HALF THE TIME WHY

[bold fog]

oh neat, you manage shields just with sniper?

[visual rain]

yes

[river vigil]

competition will end early if you take too much damage since it will drain your points

[bold fog]

what does "+ minimum damage" mean on mods

[visual rain]

half the time it actually works tho

like im doing the exact same thing

half the time it does not work

[indigo solar]

Because half the time you get hit too much

[indigo solar]

Reduces the damage falloff

[visual rain]

idk man ive had a bunch of bugs for this to not just be expanse buggin again

[bold fog]

oh so it's pointless outside of long range stuff

[visual rain]

my crimson started shooting single shots yesterday

[bold fog]

guess my sword doesn't need that lmao

[indigo solar]

And as a pseudo-blast radius buff

[shy trench]

So....been a bit since I played.
What's the best thing to do when you have duplicate Exotic weapons?

Oh wait. It's for Catalyst stuff

[neon pebble]

Ooo if I can grind morgrans today I may break 100k power finally

[celest robin]

Does anyone actually prefer operation cordon over calamity ops?

[neon pebble]

Everyone

[celest robin]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-hands-up-druski-shrug-druski-idk-meme-gif-7093177929627107381

[neon pebble]

Love having to max 4x lightbearers instead of 1

[celest robin]

I thought you quit and just hang around the discord?

[neon pebble]

Since when?

You obvi dont even play 💀 you just pick on me

[twilit thistle]

how many fruits did u have. I had like 400 of each and 300 or more choices.

[polar summit]

300ish of each

[twilit thistle]

Think mine was 2:32, would have been faster but my best friend was in the fireteam 🥀 and i didn't have the heart to leave. That bricked my frat speed boost.

[polar summit]

🙁

[celest robin]

Just realized that was another corn dog who left few months ago. Stolen valor

https://tenor.com/view/same-gif-8650053

[indigo solar]

Nah same corndog, new acc bc they lost their old one

[twilit thistle]

Of the modes that anybody can make a name for themselves in, they removed the competitiveness of shifting gates, removed bulwark, and removed sbmm for iron bar.

[neon pebble]

Jotunn so good 🤣 since when 🤣 💀

[indigo solar]

Iron bar never had sbmm

[neon pebble]

Idk who he is

[twilit thistle]

bootii used to smurf wdym? I would intentionally throw when I saw him

[indigo solar]

You don't know corpseking?

[neon pebble]

This corndog dude

[indigo solar]

There was no smurfing because there weren't multiple lobbies

[twilit thistle]

s1

[indigo solar]

He would end up with bad players because they're the only lobby playing

Yes

Even s1 there were two lobbies max

[signal phoenix]

Nope

[indigo solar]

And they weren't sbmm, it was just one game going while the other was in a lobby

[indigo solar]

Yes

[signal phoenix]

💀

[neon pebble]

Its ok, we still can play and have fun. Lowkey was fun doing expanse underlight earlier

[celest robin]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-even-know-where-it-is-daniel-keem-keemstar-dramaalert-where-is-it-gif-25479223

[leaden epoch]

Is Thunderlord still bugged for Estella?

[indigo solar]

Yes

[celest robin]

The real fun is cordon with 2 bots.

[indigo solar]

The real fun is iron bar

Queue up

[neon pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/john-gif-22530303

[indigo solar]

We're 10/12 rn

[celest robin]

Pc or mobile?

[indigo solar]

Mobile ofc

[neon pebble]

I just carry them 🤷

[indigo solar]

Pc is lame

[neon pebble]

Nobody wants this smoke

[leaden epoch]

I just built Estela but Expanse wants Arc....am I finally going to have to actually build a Ning?

[bitter estuary]

why is the scope like this

[neon pebble]

Loool no, use an arc weapon

[obtuse chasm]

🔥

[bitter estuary]

and oh yeah, this feels like royal contravene/queenbreaker

[celest robin]

Build a WHAT?!

Oh nvm

[obtuse chasm]

Or just go efrideet

[neon pebble]

What is it

[leaden epoch]

The primary pulse rifle feels weak and Thunderlord is bugged

[leaden epoch]

Sigh I think I would go that way before Ning but I would have to do so much to max out a crimson. This game insists on blocking you from playing the game one way or another

[celest robin]

Just get efrideet and round 60 all expanses

[obtuse chasm]

Nah 72 or bust

[neon pebble]

I need this in my life

[celest robin]

This guy don’t even got a Ning. Gotta keep it within reason

[neon pebble]

All i gots gwynn

Can I do rapid fire, spread, and precision?

[indigo solar]

Real, I may have bullied shepd into quitting

Accidentally targeted him bc game kept respawning him in front of me

[celest robin]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-confused-gif-16581949230767914481

[obtuse chasm]

Yes

[leaden epoch]

I never bothered to build him because there always was one whenever in a fireteam.

[indigo solar]

Oh nvm he's still here

[celest robin]

I was just making a joke. You should build him though. Fun and fast

[obtuse chasm]

I had him built for calamity pre season 4, now he’s useless

[indigo solar]

He's on my side now, it's gg

[twilit thistle]

definitely a little more than that. i think it was in waves. I didnt even play it that much tbh but when I did there definitely was some degree of sbmm.

[leaden epoch]

Kind of feel this way as well.

[twilit thistle]

@limber pine need to save that one, i was the one who recruited shepd 😭

[neon pebble]

Shepd is a silent champ. He is only guy to consistently play Gwynn more than me in PvP since launch. I feel like he has a good life/game balance and touches grass. He doesnt quit, he will pop up again soon

[twilit thistle]

SUPER nice once he opens up

[leaden epoch]

Seriously though is Efrideet actually the best arc expanse rapid option? Kind of seems it 😕

[neon pebble]

I target him because well its Gwynn v Gwynn world 🤣 but I have mad respect for someone whos never said a word and keeps going

[twilit thistle]

think it was shepd who discovered sg oob tech. first time i ever got to talk with him. shepd has been playing gwynn since s1 iirc. I remember not having the heart to kill him in iron melody

[neon pebble]

Lol see, he always pops back up. Bro dont stay down 🔥

[visual rain]

yes

actually arc specifically maybe ning?

depends

[leaden epoch]

Well I'm not playing that much legendary campaign to actually 5 star it, so I guess no rapid fire expanse for me until much later in the season.

[neon pebble]

Since launch, him and I were only ones to stick with her in high mmr SG lobbies

[visual rain]

do surrounded as efri its easy sub 3 runs

[bold fog]

lol come on
bot took the orb, went to revive not throw it

[neon pebble]

I miss @barren sand

[visual rain]

hi

[bold fog]

hey!