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[bitter estuary]

im getting better doing the unstuck+cheese method

i need to somehow do sub 2:30

[vast arch]

there's an unstuck for that map?

[twilit thistle]

I added u to the archive. 😭

[bitter estuary]

ye

[bitter estuary]

thats the cheese

the unstuck is the last bit after depleting the last 2 hp bars

[indigo solar]

Towards the end, only saves like 2 seconds

[vast arch]

I know about that skip, is there another one?

[signal spade]

straight to the gulag

[vast arch]

oh

[indigo solar]

You unstuck from the third boss spot to the gate entrance

[thorny frost]

According to game text Ikora does have a debuff that increases damage, but just for her, looks to be 20% base increase. I haven’t tested to see if Vulnerability affects it tho the T5 upgrade calls it vulnerability.

[twilit thistle]

Saves alot more than that

maybe not ikora tho.

[indigo solar]

This is the spot btw

[indigo solar]

No it doesn't, not even on Helhest

And Helhest has to kill the shinka

[twilit thistle]

I discovered it. What it does is allow you to teleport behind the shinka, and doing so gets the bosses to automatically start the split.

[twilit thistle]

is it gifable

[indigo solar]

I don't think it's worth it at all for ikora since there isn't a shinka to kill

[indigo solar]

This one is bad but I could rerecord

[twilit thistle]

oh ye for sure then thats dif

[twilit thistle]

U already have it. Thats not the same one u posted and i coudlnt find for that day

[indigo solar]

This is the one I posted, March 26

25*

[twilit thistle]

You showed more than that.

I watched and learned from it.

[indigo solar]

Not with the unstuck tho

[twilit thistle]

gotta see it to belive it tho. I can fuse them

[rotund flame]

I'm at t4 ikora. Is it worth buying a copy from the store this month and the next? Have 900 of the currency but wondering if 360 is a good deal

[neon pebble]

She in standard bro

[indigo solar]

360 is 22 draws, which is half a limited

Up to you if that's worth

Imo t6 iko is definitely very handy to have

But how close are you to the guarantee

The choice one

[rotund flame]

I'm at zero pity in standard and am at 90 pity for the choose a character one. I don't see any way we can get regular pulls besides monthly resets

Guess i will wait and see what the next character is before i decide. Don't want to waste a potential easy t6

[signal spade]

we're ramping and im running out of refactor mats

[river vigil]

I'm down to 6k again

[signal spade]

im down to 600 but i have like 10 characters done

[river vigil]

I still have 30 artifacts i want to make

And I still need to farm for 4x45 artifacts for at least efrideet

Surely higher phase levels will increase the chance later on

[signal spade]

theyll probably be rly common at the end of the season

i assume the floor will move up each week

[slow olive]

Triple Tap dead, found in a ditch, after 10 different reload perks stole its entire flow

[visual rain]

Why

There's no reason to go for all 45s

Do you realize how absurdly rare they are

[river vigil]

Perfect stats look good

[visual rain]

Enjoy your suffering I guess

[vast arch]

@twilit thistle are you doing steel plate or born equal

[river vigil]

If i dont love it now I'll learn to love it

[twilit thistle]

born equal

Its an op combo. I figured this out bc its not even possible to get electrify and flame offensive. If you somehow do, I want a photo. I think it would either break things, or be so op its unreal, or be used for automation of stages via estela (bots). One of those. Thats what tipped me off.

[mossy holly]

Hell man, Im lacking behind in this game

[signal phoenix]

Bruhh where do I get exotic weapons?

[bitter estuary]

the new raid

[signal phoenix]

I don’t have 60k power

[bitter estuary]

then grind

[signal spade]

you did the singularity stages and got the choice artifact engrams?

whats your artifacts page look like

[charred sail]

exotic mods are needed on your guns too

[twilit thistle]

It’s broken, all of them are bad tbh right now

[spice salmon]

Is Gwynn worth getting more copies for? I have 3 so far and maxed out the concertos

She's 85k rn

[charred sail]

isn't cloudstrike BIS for Ef?

[twilit thistle]

No

[river vigil]

Its fun, but not bis

[twilit thistle]

Not sure if she has a true bis. Now, with actual customization, that seems split between ted and crimson

[rotund flame]

The sniper is good and surprisingly the rocket as well. Lots of ikoras doing ton of work with it

[twilit thistle]

I was not impressed. Vorpal cluster rocket is way better still

[rotund flame]

I'm just happy with a good f2p opinion that doesn't require months of grinding for a BP weapon

[balmy raft]

They nerfed wardcliff and it’s not it anymore

[twilit thistle]

😭 I thought it was broken already? They nerfed a broken weapon?

[rotund flame]

They really want people to get the drill or the truth 😭

[twilit thistle]

Ttf works. Not the best but it functions.

[rotund flame]

I was using that on ikora release, but then people found out clusters was broken and build up your passive like crazy lol

[tribal atlas]

Anyone wanna do some shifting gates?

[twilit thistle]

Devs are too strict.

[slow olive]

What nerf with Wardcliff?

[twilit thistle]

I’d assume an anti fun nerf. We must be miserable at all times 😭

[waxen hollow]

Hello I'm new to this server and Destiny Rising

How is everyone doing

[slow olive]

The usual

Being mad at Destiny stuff

[bitter estuary]

?

we need to see the patch notes in 8~10 hours

[waxen hollow]

Does anyone want to play with me

[signal spade]

does maru run rampaging or is that not a thing anymore

[indigo solar]

There was a period for like 3 weeks after they patched cluster where TTF could still get crazy stacks

[twilit thistle]

Do you need a pack? (people to play with)? I know @exotic sinew manages a bunch of packs, and will have tons of people who will say yes. By the time I get done showering, eating, and contacting my doctor about my very messed up leg I would only have like 30 mins

[waxen hollow]

Oh

I was just wanting people to talk to in game

[balmy raft]

It was a shadow patch it’s not gonna be in patch notes

[waxen hollow]

And help me with the game

[indigo solar]

Btw bc of the patch for it, I recommend turning "Out-of-Ammo Auto-Swap" off for Ikora2

Otherwise, the final shot of your rocket launcher won't build stacks or refund black hole energy if you miss

[spice salmon]

Is Kabr2 good?

[signal spade]

hes strong yea just slow

[twilit thistle]

Add. Also add Kronos, I think he wanted or likely already has set that up

[waxen hollow]

Okay I sent you a friend request

[jagged osprey]

If there’s something to be mad at, it’s the aggressive power scaling in casual weekly stuff man. Driving me nuts

[surreal berry]

I personally have not gone farming for lvl 90 Artifacts...
(not farming em every day/week)

( don't know what is the DAM differences with 5 teir lvl 80 Arti sand Any Teir Lvl 90 Arti)

[signal spade]

@surreal berry what artifacts you run on maru 3/4

[halcyon canopy]

Where Crota raid?

[surreal berry]

A non-recommended Art...
+37% Body Dmg

[signal spade]

it works on abilities?

[cyan tide]

Attribute tier effects scale higher on lvl 90s, I think at about tier 6 they're higher than lvl 80 tier 10

[surreal berry]

(jolted Transit)
(this weapon)

[signal spade]

yea does it work on your Q though?

or super

[cyan tide]

It only buffs weapons

[signal spade]

ill farm that set for xuan wei

[surreal berry]

[halcyon canopy]

Where is the Crota raid?

[surreal berry]

but i'm thinking to swap the Arti... When I get the stats

[cyan tide]

Not available atm, we don't know if it'll come back

[signal spade]

was gonna try this i think

[surreal berry]

👍

[halcyon canopy]

Sad

[surreal berry]

So If u were to Pop your Super for that dmg... U want to Regain Osh first then Act Super

[signal spade]

yea this should reproc with the super i havent tested yet

[surreal berry]

👍

[cosmic trellis]

Finally, my first actual enhanced good perk I can use

[polar summit]

That’s the worst perk ever bro

[balmy raft]

Auto loading on ikora

[polar summit]

It’s so bad that it killed this chat

[twilit thistle]

How long has this been a setting

I wonder if I can for pc 😭 i forget how it’s different

[frozen tree]

Is there any way to transfer all the +45s to a new 5 star art?

without transfering the random first stats

I dropped this one but I dont wanna spend all the refractors again if I can help it

And I dont wanna overrite the nice stat rolls either

[untold hearth]

lost my old save, restarting the grind on PC tonight.

[vast arch]

No, I think the only way to transfer the refactor is to transfer the base attribute points

[oak kettle]

The old one’s base stats are 1 point better aren’t they?

170 total compared to 169

[frozen tree]

well Ideally I keep the 5 star. I figured it out

[oak kettle]

So replacing the 5 star’s base stats with the 4 star’s isn’t really a big deal

If you were fine losing it to move all the refactors anyway that is

[vast arch]

I’m going through this for some of mine right now. I’m farming the god rolls onto the 5 star and then transferring the refactor and base attribute points.

[frozen tree]

That sounds like the plan

[oak kettle]

Such a pain that the upgrade mat for artifacts isn’t renewable

[vast arch]

Yeah otherwise you lose the refactor and the higher base stats. Really just depends if you want to farm more or sacrifice the mats to refactor again

[frozen tree]

what are people doing for the efri attributes?

on 1 2

[twilit thistle]

wdym? thats a 37. Which is 8 from 45. +2. The other one is 1 point worse. You are better off transfering it. Probably actually better tbh cuz they will be lvl 10. and youd still have the imperfection on ur old one.

[sullen depot]

Shield + Dr I believe

So shield-defense-range-element on slot 1 and shield-defense-element-melee on slot 2

Or u can stick with range on both

I like the half and half concept

[frozen tree]

Sounds good to me, ty

[signal spade]

if youre gonna split half and half health is just better than both

[twilit thistle]

True sadness looks like this

[surreal berry]

🖐️ 👁️ 👃 e 🦻
hmmm... Tier? 6... Tier 10?...
Those tiers are the Attribute tiers you're talking about?...

[signal spade]

tier 10 weapon damage on an 80 is like 30% but tier 6 on a 90 is 30%

90s scale higher

i made up those numbers but concept is the same

so tier 10 on a 90 would be like 40-50 or something a lot higher

[thick radish]

anyone know if black body stacks increase from a kill from any source? or does it have to be by the gun that has the perk

[sullen depot]

Has to be by the gun

[timber pasture]

Hello 👋 how is everyone anyone got those 5 gifted suuuuuuuuubbbsssssss 😆

[signal spade]

i thought it was like concerto where you had to get enough damage with the gun for it to count as an assist

or maybe that was glutton idr

[timber pasture]

Ya know anyone still playing destiny 2 rising might as well be three

And it's in first person now so cool makes you feel like you're playing on a console without the fuss

[sullen depot]

Nope just tested in practice range and gun has to do the finisher

[signal spade]

rgr

[sullen depot]

Same applies to glutton. U need to get the kill with gun as well. Enough damage with Assist don’t count

[spice wigeon]

Yeah but the thing is you can’t farm lvl 80 anymore. And you still need lvl 90 for the power. Also now you can easily farm 4-5 stars artifacts

[signal spade]

i was saying in response to asking why we needed 90s

delete your 80s is the real end result

[twilit thistle]

It costs less to upgrade some of those. U can also use them.

Its like 50 per upgrade for them. I mean i aint saying keep ur helhest ones but i suggest for like artifacts u dont want to max keeping one good one cant hurt. And using them up to rolls.

[signal spade]

yea theyre good for refactor

[sullen depot]

Wait why level up an 80 artifact tho? The only use now is for attribute transfer pretty much

[twilit thistle]

testing, and for ones to add to ur collection tbh depending on what it is.

[sullen depot]

Can’t even use em for power cuz they ain’t enough for iron commander anymore

Aah fair. I’m not a collection for stuff but to each their own at that point

[twilit thistle]

Some like the one that speeds up rate of fire arent ever going to be bis bc it looses dmg. Also, shifting gates and fair play.

[golden spade]

So whats the strategy with efrideet and dealing with rapid shinka's? I feel crimson doesn't pop the sheild quick enough

Also how should i play her to increase her survivability

[sullen depot]

Crimson isn’t meant to pop the shinkas as fast as a normal rapid fire weapon

But it pops it generally faster than other weapons

But basically using crimson and going brrrr when u have competition on as that also increases ur RoF

[twilit thistle]

My goal is to get every artifact as a 5 star now. (also keeping my original power leaderboard set for umeko tho 🥀 )

[sullen depot]

As for survivabity. Competition- pop off - then go hide till u have completion again. Rinse and repeat

[twilit thistle]

Its so slow still most of the time. I think its balanced and i will cry if the devs nerf her. I like how many options u have, thats what the game was missing, primary options.

[sullen depot]

Devs don’t nerf a character. They only nerf weapons

And I don’t see them nerfing crimson imo

It’s not busted per say like cluster for ikora

Or Maha when it first was released for Ning

[twilit thistle]

we need more weapons bad.

[rotund flame]

So uh anyone get a adept mod yet? 🗿

[sullen depot]

They need to fix the LC grind for exotics before releasing more exotic weapons imo. We have gotten a decent amount of mythic with this season release tho

Also the lattice thing is insane

[rotund flame]

Good weapons. Need to be clear otherwise they will release stuff that doesn't work correctly or is just bad lol

[sullen depot]

Exactly. Like all the new perks with weapons released this season are all pretty good and well done I think

[rotund flame]

Yeah i thought I had a lot of the chips that made them from the old legendary campaign. I was wrong

[sullen depot]

Yeah the fact there is no weekly reset on the synthesize is wild

[rotund flame]

Bro can't wait for phase 6 when we are going to need to be 100k power to even fish lol 😂

[signal spade]

pandora better show up with an event on thursday

thats just exotic lattice x300

[pine verge]

And 5 billion ascension cells

[golden spade]

When can we get these ☝️

[twilit thistle]

31/140 of our weapons are already exotic. Thats not the issue. Its a seperate issue and could be solved by fixing the sg shop, which was offering more essence. Also needs , and lumenite which was removed. All activites need to have a 10% chance of dropping a single , or lumenite, or infusion core, or sheaf. Finally i think we need an addition to the realm of the 9, an activity thats new. New encounters, and all that drops are upgrade mats for weapons in there.

[sullen depot]

Right now. With a 2% chance from ur 20 weekly attempts.

[sullen depot]

Tbh I get the idea but making every activity drop every mat is a bad idea. Unless it’s a 10% chance in one activity but it’s stilll stays guaranteed in its main activity

More like we need a use for the realm of the nine shop as well. I have 30k+ strange coins and for what lol

I’m so surprised they also did the new encounters in singularity and haven’t used it anywhere else outside of those 3 new levels. Surely they will make use of it right

[west grail]

anyone know how teh spreading light code input works, have a friend below lv 20 and it says my serial invite code doesn't exist?

[visual rain]

someone explain why im getting 5* for literally every other artifact OTHER THAN the one on my list

this is such bs

i swear before season 4 the amount of artifacts you got that were on the wishlist was at least 50% now it feels like i barely get them

bro

this is the 3rd 5* ring of conversion

ill take it but please just go away already

FOUR OF THIS PLASMA THING WHY

[thorny frost]

Wait heart on top right doesn’t mean wishlist?

But yea non wishlist items seem a lot more common now I do agree.

[brisk mango]

You know something? I've been trying to beat the last segment of the Evaligar raid and it is laughable how elitist and cowardly the players I get partnered with are. They keep asking if I know what to do (which I do by the way) and assume I don't when I can't instantly respond, plus they abandon the team once one person slips up even once. They should be ashamed to call themselves Destiny players with how toxic they are. I have to rebuild a team from scratch every time one person leaves which triggers a domino effect that makes everyone leave

[stuck barn]

is star tier not shared between same weapon?

[boreal arrow]

Can someone help me understand how to imput a friend code for Spreading light? friend trying to get me into the game, and I can not find where to enter the code. I just unlocked the Spreading light event, but dont see where to enter a code

[visual rain]

no that is the wishlist but its the one i dont need more of

i need 4th slot

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-undisputed-nope-funny-face-gif-536487951695337499

[thorny frost]

Ok that makes more sense now.

[stuck barn]

rip i upgraded the wrong weapon star tier 😫

wrong perk

[obtuse chasm]

That’s quite literally just rng… find something valid to complain about

[bold fog]

aahhhh wtf the power activities went up 10k

[visual rain]

welcome to phase 5 enjoy your stay

[bold fog]

sunk cost lmao

does this mean a noob who joins at the end of the season is facing max level activities?

[visual rain]

idk if you have to manually phase up or what but i assume theres something in place to prevent that

cus otherwise they just cannot progress whatsoever

[bold fog]

i mean there's the two dates, so end of season you unlock all quests by default

but if this level hell happens with default that means noobs can't climb

[visual rain]

yeah they like making people grind but i dont think they would completely screw anyone who joined late in the season like that

[random talon]

Guys does the United Axion Artifact apply its damage bonus to you or just your ally?

or both

[pine verge]

@sharp talon what I tell ya about shifting gates

[pine verge]

It should be both, but definitely for you I know that for sure

Edit: You as in the player with applying the buff

[random talon]

ty

[fiery marsh]

I hate using thermo in sg..

Its range is so low xD i like chaperone for 1 shots at medium range

[lean burrow]

i feel that, some guys yesterday reported me cause i was inside reading symbols and people outside died while dunking, they even told me to go watch a video even though i did the great hunt challenge lmao, people really need to touch some grass.

[naive ingot]

^ usual destiny player experience

[empty kettle]

Playing with randoms is a pain

[obtuse chasm]

Had a guy tell me how to do the raid as well and I placed for contest lmao

[timber stag]

got through the whole main campaign only to be given two copies of tan-2 💀

[random talon]

Okay but on Paper Maru looks so broken

Her E4 on the Talent Tree is just absurd. But at the same time I wanna know if she's way weaker in reality because literally nobody plays her

[sharp talon]

mythic ikora clears her so hard

[random talon]

true

Thats why im so confused. she looks so strong on paper, but in reality she gets cleared by half the roster.

just doing damage tests, and its like, why use Maru when I can just get 20 million dmg in 2 seconds on Estela

[pine verge]

Maru is strong on paper, and in reality in very specific scenarios

[visual rain]

its because shes old

[pine verge]

Ikora doesnt clear Maru at all in terms of raw damage unless you use the bug lol. Bigger problem is half of maru's damage misses

[random talon]

I'm sure Maru is very good for insta killing shinkas in late game? maybe? I dont really know

[random talon]

the bug? I play Ikora but I dont know any bug

[visual rain]

but so is ikora

[pine verge]

T6 bug with her signature 1

It hits multiple times instead of just twice if you spawn the object in the enemy

[random talon]

Lmao thats nuts

[random talon]

true

[pine verge]

The maru hate is real overstated though, she does do solid damage. Problem is her missing lol

She'd be very good if her bomblets tracked

[random talon]

Also how is Jaren hitting stage 75 on Expanse on rapid fire!?

[pine verge]

crimson

[random talon]

Efrideet I understand

[pine verge]

t6 jaren is just that guy

[visual rain]

cus jaren is the fkn goat dont question him

[random talon]

Interesting.

Because I wasnt a believer in Efrideet till I hit T4 and all the sudden every shinka gets ruined by crimson and the blind from her dash

[pine verge]

Also maru t6 is pretty bad

[pine verge]

Up to t5 is good though

[random talon]

in addition to everything I do having nasty burst dmg

[visual rain]

thats a shinka, doesnt count

[dusty spire]

I can get 23 mil on a Shinks break within 16 secs bare in mind Maru IS CC not not direct damage

[sharp talon]

I do 80+ mil in 10 sec on a shinka with jaren

[dusty spire]

Well if you understand what we are about

[visual rain]

yeah 23M on a shinka is not impressive lol

[dusty spire]

You know that blast is CC

It’s very impressive

[visual rain]

no its not

[dusty spire]

For CC if you know

You can disagree

[visual rain]

they take like 3x damage or something

[dusty spire]

I don’t mind

And if you knew the mechanic what does that translate to for blast

Really think some players don’t really know much….

[visual rain]

well yeah i dont play spread chars

but i do know that shinkas take a ton of damage when stunned

[dusty spire]

Exactly so players talking on things they don’t know

Ok I get it

[sharp talon]

I am a maru expert (never played maru)

[visual rain]

i hit 20M in the same time on a normal enemy

[dusty spire]

Ok let me give you an example

What ever my radius hits after the main damage a % is swept across the room

I am doing big waves to enemies rounding the hit target

[random talon]

I was wondering what you all meant about the shinka dmg not being impressive. so i tried and still I get 35+ million on shinka in 10.85 seconds on Estela lmao

2 of those seconds being the break time too, so basically 35+ mil in 8

[sharp talon]

shinka damage can be impressive but it has to be apples to apples

[random talon]

Looks like it yeah

[dusty spire]

Lord players still don’t get it

Crowed control

I hit a target and everything gets a % of the damage

[sharp talon]

sure, if the mobs are grouped i think

isnt that harder with maru instead of ikora which can pull

[random talon]

true but Destiny Rising is a lot of single target focused gameplay

[dusty spire]

Ok let me show you

[random talon]

If you caring about your damage you care about single target mostly

[visual rain]

if i used my super and hit a bunch of stuff around it, then its the same thing where the damage is spread too

[random talon]

Lowkey they should just double Maru Super mag size

[dusty spire]

If your single target yes lol…..

Got me
Pulling out old videos

[random talon]

also does Xuan Wei serve a purpose?

[dusty spire]

It’s called crowed control

[visual rain]

break in speedruns and uhhh

[dusty spire]

Also just like some
Players also miss mechanically we have tanking aggro pulling

[visual rain]

yeah no he doesnt

[dusty spire]

But I get it neteas needs to help players a little more with mechanical details

I think because it’s not so detailed players just lean into staking which is no problem

[naive ingot]

Ask @red geyser

[random talon]

It's not the mechanics of cc aren't vital. It's just that when we look at raw damage, we look at highest burst or dps. Which if you care for then you care about single target.

[pine verge]

Yeah maru has no grouping. She just does a lot of area damage. Annihilation blast does very high damage and is spammable if youre getting shot at. And her weapon mastery bomblets all have pretty good aoe.

Ikora is better at enemies that are more spread out or airborne cuz bomblets dont hit airborne enemies very well

[dusty spire]

Spread have 3 styles
Just to let you know and they play completely different

Ability damage DD/CC
Weapon DD
Blast CC

And because we serve a CC purpose they have to be tuned carefully

[pine verge]

Back when maru first came out this was so fun on her because they all had void shields. Unfortunately her solar hgl is terrible, and to make matters worse she lost her spread weapon damage this season. Resonance should give like 20% weapon damage when full imo

[random talon]

Also how are people doing the craziest dmg on Jaren, I only have him T1, but his other talent tree upgrade don't look like make or break for stupid high dmg like 80 million.

[pine verge]

T6

Blazing shot every time you pop stag

[visual rain]

ted

[pine verge]

And it makes enemy vuln, so multiplies literally everything else, and yeah TED, and bigger welling light etc

[visual rain]

also as mentioned before hes just that guy

[pine verge]

honestly might skip HH and go for jaren t6 instead

[visual rain]

the world is a better place with less T6 helhests

[pine verge]

Assuming reruns will be in order

[sharp talon]

it doesnt seem fun playing as helhest atm

ur shooting ur bow constantly

[visual rain]

womp womp bro she has fkn aimbot, infinite ammo, speed, insane add clear

but oh no she has to actually shoot her weapon

god i hate helhest

[dusty spire]

Try this combo. Reloading ain’t fun but what ever it touches blows up once shields pop.

[random talon]

Okay also i wanted to ask about Helhest. She looks so boring, Bows are dumb, then I'm confused about her drones. Are you supposed to control which ones you send out? Or is it uncontrollable?

[sharp talon]

if u see in cordon she constantly dies and gets one shot

[pine verge]

well cordon is much more total damage than speedrun compared to calamity so I expect helhest to get replaced by another support

[visual rain]

this is wonderful news

[pine verge]

I think thats just bc hh players get baited by her reccomended attributes and artis tbf

[sharp talon]

she has no heavy besides saving it to break shinka

[visual rain]

let the T6 helhest meta slaves suffer

[dusty spire]

She’s support

[pine verge]

Arbalest was a mistake though fr fr

[sharp talon]

they seem to have silently nerfed it

[pine verge]

It was announced afaik

Fixed bug is all

[random talon]

does anyone know this, please

[sharp talon]

i mean it does less shinka damge or something now as well, cuz the 83 piercing shinka isnt that hard to break on other chars. someone said they used several arbalest mags

[pine verge]

You can control where you place them

[visual rain]

the most broken weapon in the game got nerfed im shaking and crying

[random talon]

but you can't control if you wanna send out the healing or dps one?

[pine verge]

I actually quite like her style of support

[visual rain]

thats my helhest main impression

[pine verge]

She has a healing drone and a damage buff drone

Both shoot enemies for piss damage, theyre more about utility

[visual rain]

yeah but she made tan completely irrelevant and added ammo generation to the game

[pine verge]

At t6 they get roided up and copy your lfr damage, which is when she becomes busted

[timber stag]

that’s crazy

[random talon]

Opinions on Gwynn?

[pine verge]

She is not very good

[visual rain]

cool but forced to use sidearms

[pine verge]

Just ok

[visual rain]

apparently with the buffs she has good damage but still just go with my boy jared warn

[pine verge]

She does do damage yeah, she's just awkward

[visual rain]

i mean she also has the added benefit of being hot

JARED IS HOTTER THO 🥵

[pine verge]

Concertos are more usable after the buff but still have problems(including doing low damage like all sidearms). Her teleport is clunky too just look at how much better ikora's is

[visual rain]

her teleport is so goofy it takes like a second to wind up

[pine verge]

Id be fine with the wind up if she was invuln like efri is

It also should follow your directional movement instead of always being forwards, with the option of just doing a confinement burst around her if no movement is entered to proc artis

[sharp talon]

the first part sounds like ikoras dash

she can go up with her dash

[pine verge]

If you dont have gwynn you should try her in the trial to see what I mean lol

From ikora to gwynn is night and day

[last matrix]

does anyone know if theres been any news about a port to pc?

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[visual onyx]

guys, uh, quick question

i have like 3k saved from logins and returning

[obtuse chasm]

Hmmmm, I’m thinking lurker may be better has anyone actually played around with it yet?

[visual onyx]

is it worth to roll for more Gwynn's or hold it for another character?

[obtuse chasm]

For a Gwynn ability build btw 👆

[obtuse chasm]

Efrideet

[visual onyx]

fr?

what archetype is efrideet? tank dmg?

[obtuse chasm]

Not even a question

[visual onyx]

at least from what i read

[obtuse chasm]

Arc, precision, damage

[visual onyx]

hmm

noted noted

ill roll once im home for efrideet, 20 pulls and a dream 🙏

[obtuse chasm]

If you’re a low spender just go t1

[dusty spire]

Around 10 more days until possible next hero reveal

Also you have an event cycle period to possibly unlock for free

[visual onyx]

low spender?

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah if you only get weekly’s, bp, etc.

[dusty spire]

Soon 😅😬

[visual onyx]

oh yeah, i only spent 10 euro for an attal pack back in release

that's about it for my spending on d:r

[dusty spire]

BP Tokens ready
Boats ready
First universal ready for activation
3 x drops loaded

[visual onyx]

ill work on that

[dusty spire]

Hopefully the arts can be used on tan and attal

And even HH :/

[visual onyx]

wait, i found an S4 tierlist

estela is still top of the foodchain?

splendid news!

[half sky]

Whatever changes they made to her she feels much better than she ever did

It's funny how devs makes a problem then put the solutions behind $ 😂. For Efrideet

[pine verge]

@sharp talon bro I got the other adept perk from shifting gates hahaha

[pine verge]

What are you using this on? Edit: nvm i scrolled down

[sharp talon]

ok i have to play sg now

i can get an adept thermo with fraternity and reincarnation now yay

😭😭

game is a joke

[pine verge]

I did 10 matches not bad

[oblique geyser]

You made some tries on 83 yet ?

[sharp talon]

ye i tried a few with efrideet breaking the piercing wasnt that bad i think

[oblique geyser]

She does decent damage y but from my perspective not enough to finish in time this week

And the enrage boss behind is just madness, one splash from hisbrocket is enough to die

[sharp talon]

i might try jaren tbh

cuz he has aim bot and can tank that if he is close

working on spread first almost did 79

[oblique geyser]

The big + with jaren is his sig abilities that do nice smg and reload often so maybe

I need to try with royal contravene on HH too but need so much grind..

And need artefact match too.. 🫠

Arbalest really start to suck in these floors

[sharp talon]

did u use ur engrams?

last night i used my engrams to completely switch my ikora offensive arti

safeguarding blazar and rampaging planetismal is way way better

[oblique geyser]

Used all.. HH and Efri are maxed rn, ikora not really and Jaren is forgotten in my dump trash 🤣

[oblique geyser]

So sig build ?

[sharp talon]

ye

[oblique geyser]

I saw a guy talking about it yday y

Im sure SPPP guy use this lol

[sharp talon]

ye i built it immediately after that

[sharp talon]

ye probably

[oblique geyser]

He hide his build though🤣

[sharp talon]

i added him but i didnt ask him about his build

[oblique geyser]

Damn, need to build this then.. 😮‍💨

[humble jacinth]

Does Undaunted Spiral work on Helhest via her weapon mastery?

[willow siren]

no

[oblique geyser]

Havent tried but wouldnt recommend

[willow siren]

u have hawkeye token to work with which is pretty higher % than undaunted spiral

[humble jacinth]

Which 4 to use on her if I want to have a damage boost at any range since you're not always gonna be at 20+ meters?

[humble jacinth]

Thanks

[willow siren]

this was her old build

then everyone switched to hawkeye

[visual rain]

Why hawkeye

Spiral is basically constant 30% DB and applies to her abilities too, not just weapon damage

[humble jacinth]

I just asked if it procs off weapon mastery and they said it didn't

[visual rain]

Bellicose has the same issue, good on someone like umeko where all you care about is weapon damage, but efrideet actually does decent damage with abilities

Ohhhh helhest

But I thought you'd still want damage bonus rather than just weapon damage on her

[sharp talon]

are they serious

they scheduled the maintenance tweet on the wrong day for two weeks in a row

[sweet urchin]

Is Trinklieder perk doesn't even trigger on solo content and Solidarity counts on solo?

[dark plume]

I got gywnn now im going for efidet or what ever her name is

[lean burrow]

everyone knows communication isn't their bread 😂

[dark plume]

Lol

[lean burrow]

they lowered chaos power requirements slightly

[tender mist]

man some jumps in a couple of these full throttle things are real dumb lol.

[lean burrow]

what about the real issues though 🤷🏻‍♂️

has anyone tested a maxed wardcliff coil? was just wondering if worth building since i'm still using drill on ikora

don't really want to spend bp tokens for truth

[tender mist]

surely it cant be worth spending one of the rarest currencies in the game on truth when the Ram is so good and you alrdy have the drill

[slow olive]

Lumenite and Exotic Upgrade balls should be grindable again

Whoever thought they should be store exclusive should always trip whenever they go up a flight of stairs

[tender mist]

is Cloudstrike any good? one of my fav D2 guns

[slow olive]

Yes

[pine verge]

Yes

[slow olive]

Don't let anyone convince you otherwise

[sharp talon]

ikora is the goat

[slow olive]

Cloudstrike IS good alongside our lord, GOAT, and savior Thunderlord

[slow olive]

1 billion

[pine verge]

When they fix this bug, billions will cry out

[slow olive]

Canon Ikora shenanigans

[pine verge]

Ikora will become kabr tier

[slow olive]

Kabore or Kabeard?

[pine verge]

Kabeard

[slow olive]

Because Kabeard is kinda GOATed

Barriers are underrated

[pine verge]

Ya ikora will still be usable, just not hard meta lol

[west violet]

WTF lol. Sig build?

[tender mist]

like worth actually using on efrideet and investing in good? cause her hand cannon is good

[slow olive]

Isn't Helhest the only hard meta character in the game?

[slow olive]

Yes

[pine verge]

Leaderboards arent 3 HH. But youre not wrong. Cant not have HH

[sharp talon]

yes

[slow olive]

Here's a very good advice: Izanagi can autoload superrounds

[pine verge]

Im just talking spread in particular, and funnily enough even impact expanse

[slow olive]

Its funny that you can't "bruteforce" impact content with spreads because the latter already does decent impact

[pine verge]

If you already have crimson/TED you dont need cloudstrike. But do it anyways because its fun lmao

[west violet]

Jesus that’s crazy. I have to switch lol. Luckily I got both Artis at 5*

[slow olive]

And to top it off Izanagi goes crazy with Efri

[pine verge]

Are you t6?

[sharp talon]

highest dps in 5 sec?

[pine verge]

Im gonna be sick

[slow olive]

I'm right here proud of my 28 second 8 million and here I see 100 million

[slow olive]

You poor unenlightened soul\

[west violet]

Yey

[tender mist]

you mean the part where the rest of your mag does the bonus damage? so like youd get a precision in standard mode then roll to overflow izanagis and theyd all be bonus rounds?

or like you overflow the mag and use them all for honed edge

[pine verge]

Let the grace of cloudstrike cleanse you, sinner

[slow olive]

Fire a superround, swap to HC and dash (if available) to autoload superrounds. Clunky and objectively not worth the hassle, but still goes hard

[slow olive]

Silence peasant

[pine verge]

The church of cloudstrike will forgive you for your transgressions

[tender mist]

wait why does this work lol.

[pine verge]

You need only repent

[slow olive]

I mean when you master the loop it does go smoothly, but still not super worth the damage chase

[tender mist]

that sounds hilarious

[slow olive]

Nuh uh

[tender mist]

ive never gotten izanagis in this game tbh but used it in d2 a decent amount

[slow olive]

You need to fire 3 peewee rounds just to hit like a car
I only need one to hit like a plane

[pine verge]

Btw fun fact the cloudstrike precision damage buff applies to both weapons

[sharp talon]

ikora does so much damage it lags the server

[slow olive]

Midstrike propaganda

Move along gentlefolk, nothing to see here

[tender mist]

it says on the card "this weapons precision damage"

so id assume thats a bug?

[pine verge]

It is lying to you

It's a buff applied to your character for 5 seconds

[tender mist]

would be useful if you run out of heavy ammo right after a lightning strike i suppose

[slow olive]

htf does even swap back to their HC for 5 seconds to capitalize the 30%?

[pine verge]

91 handling bro

Just land another strike/storm before it expires

[tender mist]

okay so based on your name i feel like i alrdy know the answer, but is thunderlord actually good in this game?

[slow olive]

YES

[tender mist]

i dont have a good machine gun character tbh so not like it matters but im curious

[slow olive]

Sniper Exotic superiority be damned!

Thunderlord forever!!!

[tender mist]

i dont know anything about machine guns in this game tbh i heard the gallows one is good but idk

[slow olive]

Gallows is versatile and fun
Heir is a good boss melter

Thunderlord is the GOAT

[tender mist]

my guy pulls out a d2 dps meme when we are talking about destiny rising performance of the gun hes a real thunderlord truther holy

[slow olive]

I consider Thunderlord the GOAT but I personally am more of a Grand Overture Shill

[tender mist]

thunderlord prob my favorite lmg in the franchise, altho the heat one from Equilibrium is very very cool

i quit for a long time after beyond light tbh so i havent used grand overture beyond getting the catalyst finished but its cool

[pine verge]

You also trigger it by getting a kill with it since that triggers a storm too. Im not super conservative with my ammo since you have so much of it. Under 50% embold 3x makes jezibaba hit real hard too. It feels good using both weapons and abilities all at once

[slow olive]

How did you quit after BL when TWQ was a year after BL?

[tender mist]

well tbh i had alrdy kinda quit i only came back for BL cause of the 60 fps update on the new consoles

i hadnt played in like a year before that

i beat the BL campaign and that was rly it

[slow olive]

Does Emboldening or upgraded Corn a better fit for Jezi?

[pine verge]

It is truly a crime papa kabr doesnt have a machine gun

[pine verge]

Emboldening 100%

I also use embold on empty fort, and I would use it on parole if it had it

[slow olive]

Kabeard really should've been the classical AR/LMG heavyman

[pine verge]

Facillitated is gross

[tender mist]

also when i came for beyond light it was during the period when all the D2 stuff was on xbox game pass, so i didnt actually buy beyond light, and by the time WQ came out it wouldve cost like 150$ to buy all the stuff i was missing and i couldnt afford it

[slow olive]

Emboldening is objectively the better niche compared to Facilitated

NGL the game is heading towards a perk bloat issue

And it's just been out for less than a year

[pine verge]

Lots of bait perks, and new perks are just crazy

Barb >>> annihilation

[slow olive]

Epic perks, while their offerings are objectively GOATed (looking at you Deadly Warrant my love) are heavily held back because the gap between legendary and mythic perks are big

[pine verge]

Controlled heartbeat and bloom are also disgusting

[slow olive]

Archers + Heartbeat go crazy

Sure there is no damage boost from Archers

But that draw speed tho

But the fact that Controlled Heartbeat is just an offshoot upgrade for Archers Tempo is wild

[pine verge]

Archers tempo is so neglected it has no perk upgrades

Barb mogs it unfortunately

[slow olive]

Cornucopia occupies Sinful Karma and Subsistences niche

There's like a plethora of kill-to-boost-damage perks

Ensure Yields is Kill Clip and MKC's big brother

[sharp talon]

after further testing, ive concluded jaren is the best char in the game 😂

[naive ingot]

Super Good Advice was the goat in D1

[pine verge]

For some reason auto loading holster and ensured yields are reccomended on the solar gl

And they dont even work together

[slow olive]

As much as I love the new perks, the inevitable perk bloat over damage will just damage the entire perk ecosystem and kill classics like Frenzy, Fire Rush, Annihalation, and Glutton

I genuinely think removing the perk tier system and purging/reworking/combining perks should happen

[slow olive]

The disappointment I got when it didn't mesh well

And the fact that Ensured disappears when you swap off the gun

[pine verge]

Solar hgl is a sin

The shieldbreak perk sounds great but it also has no perk upgrades

Sympathetic detonation. Also the damage buff is whatever. It should just heavily buff damage to shields and deal shieldbreak explosions when they break

[dusty spire]

Imagine you needed particulars to climb

[pine verge]

Baby arbalest in a perk

[slow olive]

Autoloading + Splash kind off goes good for Khanom Krok

Plus it's the better GL if you're using Sweet Business

[tender mist]

it was pretty bad but i used it on oracles in VoG cause it would reload when shooting them

[pine verge]

Only usable roll

[slow olive]

The firerate ensure that you can autoload Sweet to the fullest

[pine verge]

autoloading and poly both have pretty useless new perk upgrades for maru too

[visual onyx]

yo, what are some worthwhile weapons for Estela or Efrideet?

[pine verge]

On tsurinobuse its like whatever. Adept does practically nothing for her

[tender mist]

Crimson or TED and IST3

[visual onyx]

TED?

[tender mist]

Til Eternal Death

the hand cannon from the current battle pass

[dusty spire]

Makes things a walk In the park lol

[visual onyx]

damn

[slow olive]

Efrideet-
Jezi: Emobldening + Horrors
Simmit: Annihilation + Ensured
Parole: Facilitated + Synco
Crimson
TED
Zico: Barb + Horrors
Tatara: Vorpal + Ransom

[tender mist]

if youre f2p crimson is not hard to get rly and it works

[visual onyx]

noted, what is IST3, again? just returned since S1

[tender mist]

a sniper

[robust sequoia]

I love double Kabr with my HH, just standing popping off rounds—no fear!

[visual onyx]

noted, oh and...is Furies III any good these days?

i have it for Estela

[tender mist]

Mythic Sniper
Barb and Horror's Metabolism perks.

idk about the pulse rifle i dont haev her

[slow olive]

Could've been a good damage support

[naive ingot]

Oracle's was at the back with Icebreaker 😂

[slow olive]

Sadly its powercrept to high heavens

[visual onyx]

so i assume i rather run a mythic pulse and Gallows?

[robust sequoia]

Need a barrier character that works with close combat chars like Jaren. Sorta like Rossi barrier…

[tender mist]

i used it one the oracles at atheon when time lost not the ones at templar

[visual onyx]

i'll go get it on an onslaught. was it 2nd encounter of the raid?

[slow olive]

Ultimatum + Sweet ears can go with Annihilation in the 1st slot. Clepsydra and Ensured each

[visual onyx]

noting it all down

[slow olive]

Oversoul gets Trink and Glutton

[visual onyx]

cus i also want to work towards getting Estela maxed out first, its still at 65k where i left her S1

and team level, that gotta go up to 90

[slow olive]

Any Pulse is fine

[visual onyx]

gotcha

whats the catalyst i should aim for on Gallows?

[slow olive]

Heir is good and synergizes with her element best
Gallows can take on two Shinka's and is also great
But Thunderlord is the GOAT even with the bug

[visual onyx]

oh, fr?

is there any encounters where you can grind thunderlord?

[slow olive]

Catty 1 is good for light investment. Catty 3 is good for high investment

[fresh moat]

I think second encounter new raid

[visual onyx]

WAIT THEY REMOVED PINNACLE ENERGY?!?!"?!"?!

[slow olive]

For Heir Catty 2 for light, but Catty 3 is kind of a requirement

[slow olive]

yessir

[tender mist]

hes a smart shill. does 2 lines about why other guns are good to lure you in before casually mentioning the one he thinks you should rly pick

[visual onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-i-used-to-pray-meek-mill-dreams-and-nightmares-dreams-and-nightmares-michael-jordan-gif-4600240804856944817

[tender mist]

so it sounds even better than the first two

[visual onyx]

i can perma raid all day...life is GOOOD

that makes me so happy to know that

[slow olive]

I glaze the lord and saviour but that don't mean the two are terrible

[visual onyx]

that i dont have to wait to keep playing

that is genuinely an amazing change

[slow olive]

One big glaring problem tho mate

[visual onyx]

ill get working on that, meanwhile ill use my 3k saved dust to roll for efri

[visual onyx]

oh no

[slow olive]

Power levels keep increasing each week
Two critical upgrade items are removed from activities
Going back to the first point you can only focus on 1-3 characters to chase the grind for

[tender mist]

gl cause most ppl ive run into just stand around or throw the balls when they are standing right in front of the dunk spot

[pine verge]

Yo truther I forgot to mention but cloud has a CD on its lightning storms too rn. So using hc for a few seconds leads to more total damage if you dont need to burst something down

[visual onyx]

yk what, i dont mind that

[slow olive]

And because its the Destiny experience, the grind

[slow olive]

My second point is still glaring

[visual onyx]

oh, very

but what are the sources for said materials then?

[slow olive]

They removed Lumenites and Ascension Cells from being grindable

[visual onyx]

mmm...

[slow olive]

The utmost critical components in endgame powergrinding btw

[visual onyx]

yeahhh

so, is the solution to grind the tiered weapons?

for lumenites i mean

[pine verge]

If you have furies id use that instead of an exotic heavy. If not, heir

[slow olive]

No Exotic cells = Exotics can't be 90's
No lumenites = Mythics can't be easily bumped up a tier

[visual onyx]

yeah ill run furies while i obtain heir

[visual onyx]

so they want us to go to the source for 90's and tier 5's, no? thats the initial impression

[slow olive]

The seasonal store and even then they run out

[visual onyx]

i see

[pine verge]

Furies > Heir

[visual onyx]

i might have a hell of a ton still saved up from S1

[visual onyx]

ong? good to know

[slow olive]

Yup while artificially shooting the kneecaps of loyal players

I love being a destiny player

[visual onyx]

mhm, that is a problem

but like, to me, returning to this? im ok with it tbf

[slow olive]

Wait fr? Explain

[fresh moat]

Not this furies thing again

[slow olive]

Having a crit bubble is still good tho

Plus it being perpetually refreshable is amazing

Too bad buffs and crazy power from every character renders it kind of eh

[pine verge]

Furies does comparable damage with heir now unironically. Heir has higher rof so it's more accidents and is better for say a boss(especially on contest bc no cat 1 on furies). But for most content furies is the clear winner

Also frees up heavy slot for utility instead of just damage. Breaking shinkas and removing off element shields pretty much

Furies straight cooks with the mythic mods supporting it. Even better with adept scope if you can get it

Hopefully adept mods arent too hard to get from prestige onslaught

[fresh moat]

Yeah you have a better chance of winning a lottery 🥲

[slow olive]

I cant even raid ffs. The week goes faster than I can grind and the weekly power raises just cripples me by the kneecaps

I just realized the new solar linear is a burst one

[vast arch]

What are the NA chaos modifiers today?

[sharp talon]

79 done

[stark forge]

huh jaren can shoot balls now

[slow olive]

I might genuinely compile a compaint how the inevitable perk bloat in this game + the perk tier system is making the weapon grind tiresome at a different level

[fresh moat]

🐐

[vast arch]

do it

[vast arch]

now do 90

[slow olive]

Im sorry huh?

[stark forge]

perk pool is fine adding pity to forge will make weapon farming easier

[slow olive]

Im sorry a direct approval from a PoA is just rattling

[signal spade]

Weapon farming is already easy it's just not instant gratification so people hate it

[stark forge]

cant believe i lost 10 mute and 10 cury while being able to adept baklava in 1 click

[slow olive]

Not when you keep getting Til the End over Horrors for the umpteenth

Or a lvl 0 cornucopia

[stark forge]

lv 0 is like only drops at 1-2 star tier tbh

[vast arch]

I have done at least my 20 weekly strikes since S4 started and still don't have a single adept weapon

[slow olive]

You and me bruv

[sharp talon]

80 done 🔥

[vast arch]

that was fast

[slow olive]

Whats ur artifact and levels?

[sharp talon]

`79 is so hard for some reason

[signal spade]

Is that impact

[sharp talon]

spread

[slow olive]

I just realized that me complaining about Rising perk bloat while D2 has a more-than-lot more perks is weird and funny

[sharp talon]

rampaging pact and undaunted suck

[slow olive]

Also because like 75% of perks are kinda damage perks

[signal spade]

There's only 9 combinations of perks and there's a bad luck protection to get them to drop initially

I don't see how that's bloated at all

[slow olive]

Sure introducing more and more broken damage perk incentivices more playtime rather than relying on older god rolls

But goddamn man the amount of niche overlap and outright niche-stealing perks is crazy

[stark forge]

my only complaint is managing inventory lol hate it when i have to filter which guns to delete

[signal spade]

Are you saying you're mad they added new guns to season 4 because you want to use the old ones instead always

[slow olive]

D2 has like 2 damage perks that occupy the same niche of "kill to gain dmg boost, and then maybe do ability kill to get higher stacks"

Rising has 6 damage perks that does the same thing

[slow olive]

Not even remotely. I'm concerned of perk bloat for the sake of powercreeping

Again, there's 6 version of "Kill to gain ramping damage boost"

That's crazy

[signal spade]

Yea but they're all different and most of them are bad

[slow olive]

Target Lock could've been in the place of Fire Rush and make the latter the upgrade chances for the former but no

[stark forge]

almost never use those 6 perks its insta delete

[slow olive]

Flash Mob is a better version of Glutton perkwise but those two coexist

[slow olive]

I'd celebrate having Deadly Warrant tho

Perk goes crazy for a leggy

[signal spade]

There's pretty much no content in the game rn where the rampage esque perks are meta or preferred though

[stark forge]

if only the rapid fire weapons dont shoot like wet socks these perk might have some use

[sharp talon]

crimson 🔥

[signal spade]

So there being a hundred of them is just bloat to make the pool seem bigger

[slow olive]

Which genuinely sucks

[stark forge]

yeah crimson is goat on jaren for me these days lol

[slow olive]

Perk tier should go tbh

Remove some, combine some, reduce the perk count per weapon to 6-7 (legitmately)

[signal spade]

Nobody uses leg perks outside of niche pvp scenarios

And there's only 3 myth per column now which when you see how upgrades work means there's only 2 max on most guns in each column

[slow olive]

True

[signal spade]

Then from there there's usually a clear god roll or two rolls you'd want

[slow olive]

It still kind of sucks tho

[signal spade]

Lmao ok what actually sucks

[slow olive]

The perk pool for each gun should incenticize grind through desired perk combos'

Not just one "god" roll one all for all

[signal spade]

That exists though

There's like 3 good roll combos on jezi, the new sniper, the new SMG, and the bows

The lgls have like one or two each as well

On top of the fact elemental shields make worse weapons better for the niche of their specific element content which opens up perks and guns significantly to choice

[slow olive]

On a sidenote

This is so beatiful

[slow olive]

Wait does cloudstrike proc its dmg bonus when popping shinka shields?

Because anti-shield niche kind of has a hard place to occupy in the game

[signal spade]

What

Doing solar expanse with two arc weapons is going to be significantly less doable than if you just equipped a less godly solar weapon

[sullen depot]

i know this says cordon but i wonder if this will also apply for iron commander

[signal spade]

I thought they fixed this already early on you couldn't swap off your current character even if the emanare would bump a lower one

Maybe this is visual

[indigo solar]

Last I saw, only part of trink triggers solo. You get the bonus for the full fireteam but not the unbroken shields. Solidarity and fraternity are fully active in solo

[sweet urchin]

Thanks 🫡

[polar summit]

I got both bellicose and Hawkeye token with same roll and stats, and hawkeye does around 20% more dmg compared to bellicose

[vast arch]

Somebody make it make sense

[polar summit]

Bellicose

Hawkeye

[cyan tide]

Maybe it's supposed to be singularity order, have you done the new stages yet?

[vast arch]

Yeah those have been done since the first day lol

[indigo solar]

You fool, you see, you only cleared stage 10 of Singularity: Endless

Anyways check out the perfect conversion drop I just got

[pine verge]

Yes

[slow olive]

No wait mistook for another past comment

Off I get blues for 3 activities straight

[pine verge]

Congrats bro

[gusty bridge]

Any active recruiting packs on NA that I can join? My pack is disbanding 😓.

[vast arch]

#1391468035981836420

[grand panther]

Anyone trynna do cordon 9-10 eu servers , i got 104k t6 ikora

[vast arch]

#lfg-others

[grand panther]

Discord so dead lol

[indigo solar]

Most of the active people are still asleep rn

[signal spade]

I'll acknowledge tans existence when it's not the worst modifier combo possible

[slow olive]

Tf did Tan do to you?

Bro's just a cutie patootie with his waddle sprint

[cyan tide]

Goofy ahh run

[slow olive]

And Estella aint safe too

[cyan tide]

I never noticed Estela's run being weird tbh, Tan just spreads his legs too wide and it looks off lol

[slow olive]

Them and Ning Fei have unique runimations

[vast arch]

I love doing almost 200 million damage with bots in Cordon

[slow olive]

I dont care if its one of the more reliable ways to get skill upgrade resources

Cordon is balls

[cyan tide]

Ning's run animation is really cool, kinda sucks that it's exclusive to him

[pine verge]

Whats your beef with cordon

I like it a lot more than calamity

[slow olive]

Overtime penalty kinda sucks imo

[pine verge]

Why? It's to gate higher stages

[cyan tide]

Cordon is so boring bro, you have to do like 8 runs per cycle to get all the rewards. And that's assuming you ended last cycle at difficulty 8-10

[slow olive]

And the fact that the first 2-4 cordon modifiers was weird "stay inside or your getting tick damage" kind of soured my experience

[pine verge]

If you cant clear on A you can still get stars on B or first clear on C

[slow olive]

Calamity just felt hard enough but not too hard

Theres just smth abt Cordon Im not vibing with

[pine verge]

I find it super fun lol. Busting out different characters and playing with other people to help them get their stars

Calamity was terrible at overseer. All death skips and unstucks, so lame. And it wasnt particularly hard, just speedrun

[stark forge]

cordon just feels hard bc we are under light level rn

[pine verge]

Im not under light

It's still challenging in dire

In regular it can rough, but not super hard to just clear 10

[stark forge]

it will be way easier toward the end of season once we reach max emanare cap

[pine verge]

Easy with anyone who is capable of doing dire lol

[sharp talon]

whats the highest impact stage on na right now

[pine verge]

It already is pretty easy with a coordinated team. Without that though it can be rough especially when people are doing runs for stars. Later in the season 10 will just be free

[stark forge]

anything from 11 and up should be easier to mm by next week i hope

[sharp talon]

i cant imagine matchmaking for cordon 💀

[pine verge]

I havent played any dire cuz my buddies are all in their own teams

[sharp talon]

must be bad

[stark forge]

ofc its horrible i just play to get those stars 🤣

[pine verge]

I just talk to people and help them out

Pretty quick finding people in casual chat, or matchmaking sometimes

[stark forge]

cant clear quick if i dont pull helhest out tbh ppl just bring whatever

[cursive depot]

79

[signal spade]

I can prob clear 78 quickly bif I ascend my jaren

Then I assume boss isn't the end of the world

[sharp talon]

it is

79 is a joke

[sharp talon]

we can prob duo till 15 prob if u ever want to do that

i tried a few runs on impact today the boss has too much hp

[signal spade]

Which boss is it

[sharp talon]

the hive one

with two platforms

shinka u need to kill

[signal spade]

Oh that guy's cursed

Joldr map

[pine verge]

Sure im down to play tommorow

I wish they had betas for next characters lol im so curious

Its gotta be a rapidfire next or after that, and support powercreep is probably soon

vuln and heavy ammo gen would be cool

[sharp talon]

its void next right? prob the beekeeper leaker said was almost done during ikora's time

[grand panther]

Im so hyped I’ve saved up boats

[sharp talon]

did u look at that ?

[pine verge]

Watch beekeeper be 4*

[gusty bridge]

Impact, sidearms

[pine verge]

I read a little on beekeeper

[grand panther]

Some one said bp datamined to be sidearms

[twilit thistle]

Must have meant 100 not 10 || jk ||

[gusty bridge]

Its in game already, manifesto

[pine verge]

You can view the bp weapon skin ingame

[grand panther]

Huh?

[pine verge]

But they could be sidearm and machinegun

[gusty bridge]

Go to weapon ornaments

[sharp talon]

watch it be side arms / spread and solar 🤣

[grand panther]

We’re can I see that

[pine verge]

sidearm sword sounds cool too for a void hunter

[gusty bridge]

They dont like creativity, could be sidearm and lfr 🤣 joke

[sharp talon]

another arc precision

[grand panther]

Sidearm and crossbow

[pine verge]

Oops all arc precision

Crossbows are so bad rn though lol

And they havent added any new ones

[grand panther]

Mahamayuri

[sharp talon]

i dont think its very good anymorer

[pine verge]

Crossbows in general need a buff

Especially mythics

[grand panther]

Im just guessing based on that we don’t have alot crossbow characters

Mythic one atleast only Ning if I’m correct

[gusty bridge]

They can add new mythic for us to grind our hearts out

[pine verge]

Yeah ning and rossi

[gusty bridge]

If they keep impact, could be sidearm/sword

[grand panther]

The ornament won’t pop up

[pine verge]

Making kabr 2.0 pierce was messed up

[grand panther]

Anyone send a pic?

[sharp talon]

i tried looking at it earlier i think they removed it

[twilit thistle]

The leaks borrowed drills icons, which would be associated with Maru.

[grand panther]

Ty

[sharp talon]

my random guess is side arms and spread

[grand panther]

Granada launchers are so bad

[cursive depot]

sidearm/lmg void support

[grand panther]

Granade

[pine verge]

Id be surprised if they went spread for the 2nd weapon

sword or lmg is what im thinking

[grand panther]

Hopefully not sword

[slow olive]

Void next character yes?

[grand panther]

Double impact

[pine verge]

Bro swords go hard though

[sharp talon]

we need a sword and bow char

[slow olive]

Wouldn't hurt with another dual shinka

[gusty bridge]

Sword is good. Could be a void dante

[slow olive]

Arguably Umeko since shes a ninja

[grand panther]

Exactly double impact would be boring

I hope the new character is powercrept

[empty kettle]

We lack dual mythic shinka coverage

[slow olive]

Pistol/Rocket kinda sounds nice

[slow olive]

Jolder, technically Gwynn, Jaren

Yeah basically them

[grand panther]

I think it’s safe to say it won’t be precision

[empty kettle]

We had way to many of those

[gusty bridge]

They should make it dual shinka, less mats to farm, specially for new lights

[grand panther]

Exactly

[cursive depot]

gwynn is not dual shinka

if your talking base kit

[sharp talon]

spread with octant XD

[pine verge]

Sidearms being considered impact is so silly

[slow olive]

Ehhh devs know how versatile duals can be

[cursive depot]

then half the characters are dual shinka (looking at efr top of rapid rn)

[slow olive]

Sidearms shoot fast enough to be rapids personally

[pine verge]

I weep when trying to break impacts with sidearms

[signal spade]

The character is the colony grenade launcher turned into a guardian

[slow olive]

Real

[pine verge]

Buff plz

[empty kettle]

With the worms and stuff

[slow olive]

Bursts do kinda go crazy

[sharp talon]

im glad ning is in the garbage can

[grand panther]

Nah but fr sidearms are horrid agains impact shinkas

[pine verge]

I do like how you can force shinkas much more easily

[signal spade]

Well it says insectoid robots which is literally colony

[slow olive]

And mid against rapids

[pine verge]

Than d2 champs

[slow olive]

I LOATHE Overloads so damn much

[grand panther]

What ya talking about

[gusty bridge]

If its sidearm/sword, partridge can do spread

[signal spade]

The leak

[pine verge]

Ring ring pick up the phone. Its riskrunner, do you heed the call?

[slow olive]

Barriers I can curb, Unstoppables I can brute, but Overloads just heal way too fast

[empty kettle]

So we are getting a void ad clear (maybe single target?) support character

[slow olive]

Ning Riskrunner

[cursive depot]

jolt and slow make those the easiest champs in the game

[slow olive]

Crazy underrated fun combo

[slow olive]

Void/Solar hunter main here. Please kill me when I dont read the modifiers and encounter an overloard captain

[signal spade]

A healer with a gl sounds kinda sick tbh but who knows

[twilit thistle]

Hello ning just calling to remind you that you are b tier

[cursive depot]

chill clip / jolting feedback / voltshot weapon

[slow olive]

Harmacist

[empty kettle]

Imagine we just see the new character just for it to be a buffed titan acting like a warlock

[signal spade]

Caira from evolve even though that game lasted ten minutes rest in peace

[pine verge]

Ning Fei, slayer of red bars

[slow olive]

But what the game sorely needs is an aerial character

AC-130 fantasy

Heat Rises Dawnblade from D2

[slow olive]

Mahamayuru Nings are scary. Oh wait I just outDPS'd them with Izanagi' Efridoot

[pine verge]

Crossbows should've been a primary

real talk

[cursive depot]

crossbows are just lmgs and if they were a primary they would just be smgs

[pine verge]

Smgs are just sidearms and sidearms are really just fast handcannons

[slow olive]

Crossbows should've been what they are like in D2

Although the talk would be its just a rehash of snipers/linears

[pine verge]

Wheres my trace rifle at

[fiery marsh]

Why are u talking abt outdpsing ning?

[slow olive]

Omolon still a dream

[empty kettle]

Crossbows should have been primary weapons and they should replace the heavy slot with heavy crossbows

[fiery marsh]

Ning isnt a dps monster... hes an ad clearing monster

[slow olive]

So autobows, crossbows, and bows

[pine verge]

Riskrunner, part 2

[slow olive]

Ngl I'm down for that archetype

[fiery marsh]

Gross

Why risk runner?
Maha is 10000x better

[empty kettle]

Is there any current leaker that is active?

[grand panther]

Ning is built in riskrunner

[pine verge]

because riskrunner makes me laugh

[balmy raft]

[pine verge]

And I gave up on ning being anything but that lmao

[grand panther]

@sharp talon you are terrorising eu leaderboards

[fiery marsh]

Maha will always be beat I slot for ning

[grand panther]

See you everywhere

[pine verge]

Nuh uh. What about funny lightning in my intense public event gameplay

Highly relevant use case

[twilit thistle]

Zombie can outdps anyone with Ning, but he can also do it on Estela and probably Xuan Wei. I think on average he’s just lower ranked now, as he isn’t the only runner

[dusty spire]

😬

[pine verge]

Xuan Wei dps goes crazy

[grand panther]

HMMM

[empty kettle]

Few more weeks to go

[grand panther]

WANDERING knight

[dusty spire]

Couple!!!

Or a little more than a couple a little lesser than a few

[grand panther]

How are ppl getting access to this data mining?

[pine verge]

Professional data scrapers

[dusty spire]

This is current banner lol

[grand panther]

Oh

[dusty spire]

Me and one other I know we waiting on the next banner

[grand panther]

Ohhhh im dumb mb

[empty kettle]

We also know that they have content planned for s6 act 2

[dusty spire]

You ain’t dumb

[pine verge]

I thought you were messing around lmao

[dusty spire]

Like wise lol

[pine verge]

WANDERING, insane lore

[dusty spire]

Bring on the beekeeper!

[grand panther]

I thought wondering knight was the name of a character 😭

[dusty spire]

Another summoner like Estelle I guess

[pine verge]

Nah all the banners have titles

[dusty spire]

Got frags ready for activation soon as it drops

[grand panther]

Same

[karmic chasm]

What

[dusty spire]

Efri can join the frags over time pool

[grand panther]

Then just roll for copies

[empty kettle]

Sort off I guess, but it's going to probably suck the life force from our enemies type of deal

[karmic chasm]

Why are there so many Efri haters

[dusty spire]

Exactly 😅

[grand panther]

Holy H O W

[dusty spire]

No hate at all she’s great!

[karmic chasm]

oh ur a titan main right

[karmic chasm]

Dw bro I’m gonna absolutely max out my Kabr someday

[dusty spire]

I’m just extremely selective never mind me lol