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[pine verge]

Even if you live, gotta wait 3 years for overshield to come back

Poke your head out again and explode otherwise

[sullen depot]

Literally have to jiggle peak a corner to bait out their shots

[pine verge]

Ring of convergence gigabait

[sullen depot]

Yuppp

[pine verge]

Jiggle peeking just randomly doesnt work too

much easier to dodge gunfire in d2 lol

[river vigil]

I love jiggle peeking against cabal enemies

[pine verge]

I have had my ghost pop up smack dab in the middle of cover

[river vigil]

eventually one of them just use an aoe and tag me

[pine verge]

Sniper curved the bullet bro

[sullen depot]

Snipers in dr have like 100^% zoning shots I swear

[sullen depot]

For realll

[pine verge]

I just dont test them bruh. They also shoot even when staggered or looking the opposite direction

360 no scoped by a hobgoblin, its crazy

[river vigil]

efrideet made me forget snipers exist, then I did the support clear on expanse 60 with helhest and I was instantly reminded they can be a threat

[pine verge]

Efrideet blind makes expanse a joke

And competition is immortality

[sullen depot]

Competition with t10 recovery is busted

Unkillable

[sharp talon]

is it?

[river vigil]

I still have my chairoscuro+healing plasma artifacts on standby for efrideet

[sharp talon]

wait i wanna try

[pine verge]

I usually use axion slot 1. Slot 1 unrelenting ground w/ unrelenting evo slot 2 is probably best for facetanking stuff in the hardest content.

Nah just stack DR

Competition with DR is actually goofy

With enough DR you dont even lose points

[sharp talon]

what dfoes rercovery even do

[river vigil]

you do dr+recovery at 10 so your natural health recovery might not interrupt

[pine verge]

For full stupid you can use nimble veil and unrelenting evolution

Yeah your natural health recovery wont be interrupted anyways, but more dr means you can push into harder stuff and just ignore all the damage

And then hide and beg for mercy while competition is on cd

[sullen depot]

It’s more so for when competition runs out and so u can still be in play

It has helped me clutch a lot imo

[pine verge]

With no dr and no competition its all over

[cursive depot]

I was considering this, do you know if we need 45s in both arts to get it to stage 5? Rn mine are both at 4

[pine verge]

Soul destroyed, unrecoverable

[sharp talon]

i also use a mismatching setup on ikorar

it is way better

[sullen depot]

Yes unfortunately. It stays at 4 if not 45+45

[cursive depot]

thought so, so I just need one with 45 in those slots and enough points everywhere else to keep the others at 10

[spice wigeon]

I can’t 🥲

Should I update it?

[river vigil]

no

[spice wigeon]

I don’t have the last word

[pine verge]

Have you heard of our lord and savior cloudstrike?

[sullen depot]

Why use last word on efri when u have TED?

[pine verge]

Join the church, repent and be saved by cloudstrike

Prolly for solar shields

[spice wigeon]

This?

[sullen depot]

Just use solar sniper at that point to pop shield

[sharp talon]

how good is last word with efrideet buff at breaking rapid fire shinka 😂

[spice wigeon]

Not enough

[pine verge]

Use fission clamp on the snipe

Or electron ammo

Blasphemy

[river vigil]

I want to use ted on efrideet, I just hate how slow the spear regen is in competition with it

[pine verge]

Last word damage I havent put side by side with mythics but I could swear the aim down sights damage buff is solid lol

Along with top of mag damage bonus

It certainly doesnt completely blow them out of the water, but it also has higher rof

It can if its close

Aaaaaaah now I have to know ima go test it rn

[spice wigeon]

The sups are any good?

Not enough there are too many

[golden spade]

Bro! Your stage 73! With the old prefect??

I thought crimson was the play

[spice wigeon]

No I use crimson, I was asking if the old perfect is good for solar expansion

[pine verge]

On pierce I use cloudstrike and the solar hc

For solar shields

[golden spade]

Ah! I see

[pine verge]

Its nice if there are a lot of them as its basically free damage with the shield pops

IST3 instead if you need to break bigger shields instead of a bunch of smaller ones

I tested it and yeah it's not far off. About what I expected, last word is better but not by much

Jezi actually did more burst damage

I tested Jezi, Parole, and the solar hc forgot its name

Jezi did more burst damage but then fell off to about where the other hcs were after needing reloads

Last word is consistently around 20ish percent better at least, but my testing wasnt all that strict.

Well no, because I didnt use any abilities. And also because the setups are for primary damage

Which in a real world scenario you wont do on a mythic hc

[astral bear]

I cleared it with crimson

but dont worry, wave 76 is so much worse

[pine verge]

Nah, still good. Higher dps and solid synergy with jaren's kit. The free precision hits on stuff for skill rewarded is very nice. I was only testing it in a vaccuum shooting at an elite while aiming down sights.

In real gameplay last word is very consistent. It can do that, but it can generate tons of stacks and deal consistent damage all the time.

[thin valve]

Someone rq gimme the best jaren build

[pine verge]

Yes

Attal mogs last word

Nimble veil on jaren is extreme bait I cant lie

Sounds like a deathtrap

[thin valve]

Im running my lame ahh full perturbation build since he released

[pine verge]

Getting killed in the downtime would make me crash out

Its barely better than calming, 4% better with huge uptime issues

Oh you mean for dr against ranged enemies

[robust sequoia]

Does resolute or perb trigger unrelenting?

[thin valve]

@indigo solar i trust u, gimme best jaren build

[robust sequoia]

Hmmmm

[pine verge]

I cant really imagine situations where id have to force out being sniped on jaren and not be in their face or be able to take cover but I can see it being useful

Still seems way too situational for a general reccomendation lol

[dusty spire]

Ok used a dice

[pine verge]

So u agree with me

[dusty spire]

Not happy, got what I wanted though

But yeah the drop rng ain’t real

[cursive depot]

he did say this was only for leaderboard situations, so not general

[pine verge]

Bait 90% of the time lol

We literally agree, no need to be so hostile

Saying I can't read is diabolical. Whats up with the disrespect

[robust sequoia]

I love having 20 artifacts that all have the stat I want to trade out on my starred arti!

That’s when I was forced to dice it!

[dusty spire]

Annoyed me so bad but hay it’s done for 20 battle pass tokens :-

[dusty spire]

3 days and I got super on every single drop

[robust sequoia]

Oof! Can’t bring myself to that point yet. Still debating TeD or LW

[dusty spire]

I had some spare since I hang on a threshold

[pine verge]

It's pretty obvious we just weren't on the same page.

[robust sequoia]

Super on Rampaging Pact haunts me.

[indigo solar]

Rn I believe it's Ted, retribution, nimble veil, unrelenting evolution, valiant perturbation/nimble spiral/preponderant plasma, undaunted spiral

[robust sequoia]

Nah, t0 Jaren and no Efrideet—yet…

[dusty spire]

Made sure I changed the wish list now just incase I get the drop I just diced for 😂😂😅😅😭😭😭

[robust sequoia]

Better than Jez? Jez hits so hard…

[robust sequoia]

That would happen for sure!

[pine verge]

Whats triggering plasma? Duel marks? Or TED?

[sharp talon]

preponderant plasma for jaren?

[indigo solar]

Blind from dodge

[pine verge]

I guess if you hit a bunch of stuff with blind

[robust sequoia]

Oh! It works?? I just thought about how it doesn’t work for abilities…

[indigo solar]

Yeah the others are generally better picks but it's still nearly as viable so worth mentioning if you have it upgraded for other chars

[pine verge]

Why not valiant preturb? I forget what nimble spiral does. Mobility in air for 30% or something right?

[robust sequoia]

Okay—that settles it!

[pine verge]

Is it double for the shotgun?

[indigo solar]

I also recommended valiant perturbation, rift is same damage bonus for 10s vs 6 but you have to cast in air. Same thing tho as plasma, people may have a really good rift for ikora that's worth using on Jaren

[pine verge]

I still like having good uptime on stag for just more welling light shots and improved dr/blazing shot even without T6. But I cant compare them side by side so its just a vibes thing

[sharp talon]

people use nimble spiral on ikora?

[robust sequoia]

So it works for both weapons? Just not abilities, do I understand that right?

[pine verge]

Yes

[indigo solar]

Unfortunately yes

Not everyone knows her abilities are summons

[pine verge]

Its a small differnce anyways

3%

Yeah thats fair, better total damage in general too with TED packing heat

At t0 in hard stuff I find myself acfually relying on stag refreshes to keep myself topped up and aggressive

[robust sequoia]

Thanks—us mobile people don’t know Q

[cursive depot]

do you think TED over TLW for fairplay content (thinking about future raid stuff)

[pine verge]

I say that because when I was stuck on expanse last week I was having issues with living when I swapped off last word

Because my healing was low lol

But then my damage was lacking

[robust sequoia]

I feel bad, cause I wasted mats on Octant—thinking that and Jez would be solid on Jaren. Without knowing how Judge works.

[pine verge]

So I got tilted and gave up

70 on pierce and stuck on 46 on impact

[sharp talon]

octant sucks now

lemme refund the resources on it

😭

[robust sequoia]

It felt so good with three powered mags into a boss…

[pine verge]

Was octant ever good though

[robust sequoia]

But since Judge does that without having to time Qs…

[sharp talon]

for arc expanse speed running

[cursive depot]

oh, nice to hear it has some viability there too, havent really messed around with it too much

yea sounds like I will be saving my bp tokens to level it for expanse then as well

yea lw had been feeling kinda weak for a while so glad this seems to be a good replacement

[river vigil]

I can never stay above 8k

[pine verge]

Why retribution over other shotguns?

That is a crazy amount of chaos

[sharp talon]

spread expanse is the most boring thing ever

[pine verge]

I dont even want to go in there

[signal spade]

we're ramping

[pine verge]

60 to 70 being solar made me not even bother lol

40 to 50 was harder than 50 to 60 just because it was solar

The solar heavy gl is so buns

[bitter estuary]

this will be me if THERE’S SPIKE SHELL AGAIN

i ran out of refactors halfway trying to max out the other half of my mythic units

[cursive depot]

oh was about to say it wasnt too bad with Ikora but I see you are on Maru

[signal spade]

ill run again for maru and joldr artifacts then prob chill

but not rn already burnt

[cursive depot]

dont know how she compares in expanse since she the only character I dont have

[sharp talon]

ye i forced all the shields with ikora 😭

[pine verge]

Yeah I was chosen by granny lol. I might try on ikora instead sometime since I picked up a nice solar lgl. Problem is my truth cant go to lvl90, so depends on if netease fixes that

[cursive depot]

?

why cant you level it to 90

[pine verge]

I did that previously and it was painful lol

No source for ascension cells other than black market coins

[cursive depot]

seasonal

[pine verge]

Maybe they will add some in an event or something

[cursive depot]

unless you bought all those

[pine verge]

I did

[cursive depot]

oof

[pine verge]

I used some on concerto of all things cuz I didnt realize they were so limited

[cursive depot]

did you use them on non bp weapons?

[pine verge]

And then a concerto dropped

[cursive depot]

ahh I see

[pine verge]

And I used it on huckleberry when I first logged on lmao, just to have some fun with jolder

I didnt play much s3 so I wasnt keeping up with all the changes or anything

[sharp talon]

i hope they add bulwark back

[pine verge]

i couldnt get into bulwark

[cursive depot]

bulwark was nice, hope tower variety is better when it returns

[pine verge]

I had none of the meta towers and nobody was queuing when I tried in apac

I could only do like 3 waves in the endless solo lol

[mint mulch]

what are the best mods for the jezibaba?

[pine verge]

Embold horror

Unless u mean actual mods

[mint mulch]

mods yeah

[pine verge]

The adept scope for sure, i just use the old magazine myself

I use warner to buff cloudstrike on efrideet

[mint mulch]

which one is the adept scope

[twilit thistle]

🥺 its still there, its just hidden. I had unclaimed bounties that i later claimed, and it still gives me the notification to claim something

[pine verge]

It buffs both piercing weapons if you have two pierce equipped

If youre on efri theres also a mod that increases damage by 27% when you reload which should work with her dodge

Magazine mod

[signal spade]

everyone pray

[twilit thistle]

💀

[sharp talon]

Forge failed

[signal spade]

it was a good forge

t4->5 but yea it failed

[pine verge]

I wonder what the odds are for that

So far ive been about half and half

[signal spade]

i think its like prob 30-40

[sharp talon]

it must be lower than the adept shards

ive got two of those and forgre has only been successful once for me

[pine verge]

I havent had a an overwrite, just total failure or adept

[pine verge]

Incurred negative karma from them shards

[stark forge]

forge failed 10x mute potion already 😭

[twilit thistle]

Odds for a s1 decal

[sharp talon]

i havent even had a thermro with a precision perk upgrade in so long

[pine verge]

Theyre all in shifting gates

Trust

[stark forge]

leggy campaign farm is faster trust

[twilit thistle]

As someone with a general sg title, its time to let it go. They nerfed the rewards so bad already i dont even run it. I wouldnt complain if it was removed, its a shell of what it once was and lwk an abomination.

[signal spade]

next strike dropped another chance we're so good

strong steve

[pine verge]

Whats so bad about the rewards rn

I played some the other day and rewards dont seem bad

[sharp talon]

the rewards seem better than it was before

not worth playing to grind weapons though

[signal spade]

you get leg campaign tubes dont you

[sharp talon]

ye

[pine verge]

Yep

[signal spade]

yea thats op

[pine verge]

And the funny tickets

40 with both of the anomalies I think? Maybe 45 I forget

Which is a lot of mats, alternative to legacy/morgans prey for emanare

[twilit thistle]

It was peak on launch. It isnt even consistently dropping rewards based on how you preform. Im cracked at it, i shoulda been getting the max reward if i am getting 700 data and 2 nuclei. Wasnt even dropping half the time. also the store is just a joke

[pine verge]

What would you put in the store instead

[twilit thistle]

Something that isnt farmable in far less time than it would take to get it from sg.

[sharp talon]

they should put weapon choice engrams in there

[stark forge]

blue boats lumenite data lattice

[twilit thistle]

yea that was my first thought. or shards. and yes like 1 credit per 1 million data lattice.

Wish pandora would sell those. btw i dont recommend buying from pandora

[pine verge]

I think 2 per 1 million is a good exchange rate

[stark forge]

wu ming ahh offer

[pine verge]

I ran out of data lattice today and idk if im gonna bother trying to farm more

[sharp talon]

those offers are always so garbage

[pine verge]

Legendary campaign is so boring

[sharp talon]

yea i save 2x or 3x for that

[bitter estuary]

we love 130 runs to max out one exotic

[sharp talon]

sparrow > legendary campaign

[twilit thistle]

legendary campaigns are def the way to go. i went from like below 50, to 200 of those yesterday. its like 2:30 to 3:00 on average to farm with spear lady. 4 mins max if u have a bad run.

[pine verge]

Real

[stark forge]

thank god i dump all pinnacle on lc before update

[bitter estuary]

lc in relevations is easy atleast

but then again, i have t6 wigkora

[twilit thistle]

Btw the fastest way to start a legendary campaign is to immediately after killing the boss, opening ur menu, navigating to legendary campaign, and starting it that way. Don't hit challenge again, or exit. You dont have to exit it.

[pine verge]

I just find it unfun and get tired of it lol. Was fun for a little trying to get a fast run, but the amount of runs I need to do is discouraging

[twilit thistle]

Dont claim the rewards.

[bitter estuary]

eh 130 is still 130

[pine verge]

Chaos uses gambling psychology to keep me going, otherwise I fall asleep doing that too

[twilit thistle]

I learned that from chaos too. Youll spend time looking at it which also adds to the total, claim in batches.

[pine verge]

I look every time cuz I want to be done with it

[twilit thistle]

commit to like 100 or 200. Dont look till u hit that number.

[pine verge]

It took me an unreasonable amount of time to get void boost on my artifact

[pine verge]

wild

[sharp talon]

i must have a billion thermos with eager aspirant

[pine verge]

Somewhat related hows the crota shotgun

[sharp talon]

swordbreaker?

[pine verge]

I was thinking about trying it out

Ya

[sharp talon]

its trash now

[pine verge]

Trash now? What changed?

[sharp talon]

i used to use it in the initial cordon event in s3 or smthing, it was pretty decent there but now thermo just destroys it i think. with the last cordon cycle where i had to break the spread manually, thermo could one shot the pellets while swordbreaker couldn't

[pine verge]

Thats probably spino making it actually hit

Along with damage buff lol

[sharp talon]

ye it was just unusable there

[pine verge]

What made you use it in s3? Is it more efficient with welling light? I was thinking it would be ok with welling light bc its a slower frame

[sharp talon]

ye

[stark forge]

for me i cant find any shotgun usable besides thermo its perk kit is too good

[pine verge]

The arc shotgun gets spino and wound counter

Whenever an arc impact comes around jaren can mog them and steal their aura

[bitter estuary]

balls

[pine verge]

Threat level to btfo gwynn

[stark forge]

niatiks not hit as hard now i think was miserable when i try it in cordon

[bitter estuary]

new perk upgrades on thermo absolutely crushes swordbreaker LMAO

i have it

[sharp talon]

the new karmic reward perk upgrade is garbo

[pine verge]

Is it really that great lol

Karmic is clearly a gwynn perk

[bitter estuary]

THOUGH does first instance of damage reset every pellet reload

[bitter estuary]

the 1st slot?

[pine verge]

Spino is cool

[bitter estuary]

i dont remember how good 1st slot 2nd perk upgrade is

but it definitely feels better

[pine verge]

Spino gets 10% precision damage

Karmic gets 2 rounds returned once per manual reload when you trigger the perk

[bitter estuary]

spino perk upgrade beloved

[pine verge]

Which is pretty useless given youll be shooting without welling light

[twilit thistle]

👀

[bitter estuary]

it definitely feels better once you trigger stag totem

not really if you use it normally

[pine verge]

Wound counter might be better but I dunno

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar

[sharp talon]

i need that one 😢

forge was successful on the useless perk upgrade

[pine verge]

Only upgrade that does anything for jaren on thermo lol

[bitter estuary]

i lowk thought it had no difference but when i used it with jaren’s buff it lowk hits much harder

[bitter estuary]

meanwhile er’s new perk upgrades

https://tenor.com/view/funny-hahaha-gif-22505124

[pine verge]

I expect it to just change the precision multiplier from 1.1 to 1.2

So im not expecting anything crazy lol

[pine verge]

Who?

[bitter estuary]

eternal retribution

[pine verge]

Oh yea just realized

It's good on gwynn

[bitter estuary]

i havent compared er to threat level due to er not being on the sparrow racing playlist

[pine verge]

Line formation just gets more hits

Refund every 6th hit, good for gwynn, bad for jaren. Same as karmic basically

[stark forge]

is gwynn better on octant now i wonder

[bitter estuary]

mesicku is really nice

[pine verge]

considering the concerto buffs id say probably not

[bitter estuary]

but idk which is the best 2nd perk for it

[stark forge]

definitely farsight

[twilit thistle]

🤔

[pine verge]

Primary meta is so gas

[robust sequoia]

Energy Conservation or Warner on shotgun for Jaren?

[twilit thistle]

i could push it above 30. i just got bad drops except for 1

[pine verge]

Riskrunner dps rotations 🥶

[wheat barn]

So who else having bugged gauntlet under 5 minutes mission

[sharp talon]

i need to setup an afk farm for sparrow

[stark forge]

its not bugged anymore

[sharp talon]

? its dropping thermo every match still for me

[wheat barn]

I have every mission under 5 but I can’t claim

[sharp talon]

oh nvm

[astral bear]

Autoclicker seems to work

[pine verge]

Depends on what you want. I usually use energy and just avoid using my shotgun lol. I find myself using electron all the time too. Warner I havent felt the need to use

[pine verge]

Best thing this season

Only half joking with riskrunner

[bitter estuary]

i use autoclicker lmao

[pine verge]

Those redbars dont know whats coming

[river vigil]

tiny task

[bitter estuary]

yeah and i can let it run for up to 12 hours

[stark forge]

99% of universal ammo mod has 2nd spread weapon stat like wtf

[river vigil]

and even if you get a double mythic drop that screeen auto closes without a click

[twilit thistle]

Its crimson, and i have izi for bosses

[pine verge]

we botting sparrow races now

[pine verge]

Is that the fabled izi efrideet?

[astral bear]

do you just record you going to the challenge again button

[twilit thistle]

Depends on the expanse boss. iIl make it work

u can just leave and swap

[pine verge]

Izi efrideet is extra blasphemous

[wheat barn]

So is the under 5 mins mission bugged? My clan mates and I got under 5 on them all and haven’t received any rewards

[pine verge]

Supposedly it counts the intro cutscene time, where the ingame timer counts from encounter start

Assuming this is true u gotta skip cutscene and be extra quick

[twilit thistle]

Tbh I don’t even use the sniper on her. It’s there for frat speed boost

[stark forge]

i just complete 5 min for ginunaga and claim reward today

[pine verge]

im a cloudstrike junkie, cant relate

[stark forge]

maybe try clearing it again

[pine verge]

Played the same way with ist3 though lol

[river vigil]

for me her sniper is just there to shoot an elemental shield that isnt ark or to shoot a piercing shinka if crimson won't 1-2 burst it

[gusty bridge]

So TED is not really BIS for her?

[twilit thistle]

There are other builds but I’d rather just run Umeko. Prof is almost at 100k on her

[pine verge]

Her snipe with an exotic handcannon will be more relevant when she has a good 140 mythic

[river vigil]

dont worry, when kabr gets killed off in the story we can get fatebringer

[visual onyx]

Hey, guys, I've just came back from a BIG hiatus, what are some things i could do to catch up?

like, back in S1 with Estela being the last banner type hiatus

[empty kettle]

Chaos mines

[visual onyx]

the wha

[twilit thistle]

@visual rain and i have been waiting for spear lady for a long time.

[empty kettle]

The mines are calling 📞

[visual onyx]

??????????

[pine verge]

Theyre referring to singularity chaos

[visual onyx]

ohhhhhhhh

[pine verge]

To get new artifacts

[visual onyx]

i figured that every destiny game

had to have a single activity for its power gains

ill check that out but rn im lost on what to do

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/children-walking-to-school-sad-leaf-falling-children-marching-gif-2350553870916961097

[river vigil]

one day we will get a cdr substat for artifacts

[modern seal]

Other than re farm artifacts, work on the emenare below the season button on the top right corner when you pull out your ghost menu. It’ll require a LOT of different materials but it gives a lot of extra power

[humble jacinth]

Would be great but then they'll start making new characters base cooldowns longer under the assumption everyone runs CDR.

[obtuse chasm]

Ted is bis, crimson is a close second and more versatile, best heavy is ist, cloudstrike isn’t even worth wasting materials on if you’re not f2p and have invested in ted

Anyone who tells you otherwise 👆 isn’t pushing with efrideet

[stark forge]

understood will max cloudstrike now

[bitter estuary]

i only use cloudstrike on umeko because atleast you have some sort of crowd control on umeko

balls

[obtuse chasm]

I’m not sure on umeko but it’s a no for efrideet

Trust me I wanted it to be good

Maxed it and wasted materials

[gusty bridge]

Thanks. I just started building efrideet to do other expanse and I was on the fence between Cloud and TED.

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah cloud is dog water on efrideet

Unless you’re f2p no point in investing into it

Good luck with the expanse pushes tho

[sharp talon]

isnt f2p better to invest in crimson

[obtuse chasm]

Yes

[stark forge]

no point for f2p to invest in efrideet overall

[obtuse chasm]

T1 is still valid

[stark forge]

except for t1 yes t0 is dogwater

[gusty bridge]

Im not f2p. I got to 46 on rapid and 42 on impact with her so far.

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah I agree

[obtuse chasm]

Yessirrr pushed 72 with her on rapid awhile back should probably go in for another push here soon tho seeing as we got a big power jump

[bitter estuary]

cloudstrike doesnt work for efri mostly because efri is mostly single target

umeko atleast if you can aim with the shuriken nicely you can get great crowd control

[stark forge]

but i think t2-t3 is what i consider usable for efrideet

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah I can’t argue with that seeing as I don’t play umeko lol

[obtuse chasm]

Valid

[bitter estuary]

that being said i’ll make my efri t0 and stay that way

[obtuse chasm]

Oof

[bitter estuary]

i have no interest in building her lowk

[obtuse chasm]

I mean do you already have a hellhest?

[bitter estuary]

plus im tired of piercing as a whole

[bitter estuary]

ye

[obtuse chasm]

Then that’s valid

[bitter estuary]

im saving up to t6 her on her rerun

[stark forge]

just build cloudstrike trust i see t6 efrideet dps smashing my t0 helhest with it

[obtuse chasm]

Lmao

[gusty bridge]

Im figuring that Ogre on 46, tons of health.

[bitter estuary]

t0 helhest vs t6 efrideet

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb ahh comparison

[sharp talon]

ascend efrideet or ikora 🤔

[obtuse chasm]

Ikora

But really you should just ascend who you use more often

[sullen depot]

How was the rapid 60-70 for u on efri @obtuse chasm. I’m on it with jaren but I’m damaged walled at floor 69

Ikora ascension is better

[obtuse chasm]

Honestly it was to long ago lol, but it was a breeze for the most part

[sullen depot]

This is the solar one. So crimson + solar sniper I presume

Use solar sniper to break shield and then pop off with crimson essentially right?

[obtuse chasm]

I don’t swap for elements but yeah

[sullen depot]

So u just went brr with crimson no matter shield

[obtuse chasm]

Nah fam straight crimson saved heavy for bossing

[sullen depot]

Aight aight

[obtuse chasm]

Yessirrr

[cursive depot]

69 a rough stage

[obtuse chasm]

I mean I’d occasionally pop a heavy shot if it was a tougher enemy but for the most part all crimson

[sharp talon]

detonation can destroy all the solar shields anyway

[oblique geyser]

big F to piercing 83

i never thought i would say this but HH struggle on piercing shinka lol

[sharp talon]

arbalest cant break in one shot?

[oblique geyser]

Lol no

Far from that

Two full mag with salvo are not even enough

[sharp talon]

impossible for jaren and others then 💀

[stark forge]

thats a scary hp inflation

[oblique geyser]

And the other f er is blasting you with enrage while Killing shinka 🤣

[sharp talon]

what stage is it?

[oblique geyser]

I do more dps with efrideet on that stage than with HH and i found a way to 100% hit the mob so i guess it ll just wait next week lol

[sharp talon]

i havent tried 81+ yet

[empty kettle]

We might genuinely have to wipe ogres from existence

[sharp talon]

is it the asme one as rapid fire 73?

[oblique geyser]

The 83 piercing one, im on it since last week, did around 3-4 hours tries

[karmic chasm]

I have this sneaking feeling Kabr might be good too bc of the shields to hide behind, but I’m nowhere close to the level to try it. I will work on him tho, he’s t6

[oblique geyser]

Its with the vex robot that move from one place to another and with piercing shinka

[sharp talon]

oh lol

[cursive depot]

kabr just struggles on finishing the final boss in my experience

[oblique geyser]

Idk.. the vex robot has moving shield so you cant always hit and need crazy dps

[stark forge]

the huge minotaur boss ?

[sharp talon]

its the hydra i think

[oblique geyser]

If HH struggle.. kabr will struggle even more i giess

[karmic chasm]

Ahhh true dps becomes an issue

I would try it with RC

[sharp talon]

i might as well try with efrideet and see 😂

[oblique geyser]

Best i did was getting the hydra in the back with shinka dead but die from enrage lol

[stark forge]

oh lol that boss is terrible if u cant play up close

[oblique geyser]

Hydra with like 40% hp left

[sharp talon]

yes that one is also 79 spread 😭

[oblique geyser]

And one hit = dead

[sharp talon]

constnatly one shots my ikora

[karmic chasm]

Actually I’ll probably switch to symmetry on him idk

[cursive depot]

yea that one has been terrible

[sharp talon]

did u do it?

[cursive depot]

gonna try a new art setup and go back in

[sharp talon]

i saw someone did it idek how

[cursive depot]

yea my buddy did it last week somehow

[sharp talon]

i asked him and he said 76 is easier

therer must be a trick

[cursive depot]

76 wasnt too bad, just needed last enemy to not teleport near shinka

[oblique geyser]

Managed to finally go above 73 on spread but next wall is 76 rn 😅

Im on the map with orbs to throw.. i seem to lack dps again😮‍💨

[sharp talon]

that one is painful

but 79 lol

my closest run the shinka is still 3/4 hp

[cursive depot]

but there has been talk of a different setup for ikora focusing more on sign dmg instead of overall dmg

so getting the arts and gonna try that

[sharp talon]

interesting

[oblique geyser]

Ikora spread feel so cheesy.. im sure you can pull so much dps if using abilities in certain ways.. i even though if using 30 fps vs 60 fps made a difference on number of hit with sig ability but to lazy to try😅

[sharp talon]

oh really?

[dusty spire]

Is this good for Maru?

[karmic chasm]

FPS feels important in this game

[oblique geyser]

Sometome you pull millions, sometime half of that, its so frustrating playing her

[karmic chasm]

Expanse was so much harder on 60 than 120

[sharp talon]

tbh i think i need to try the sig arti

i always get void annhilation on that platform if i kill that phase very fast there i will be able to do that stage

[sharp talon]

which arti setup is that?

[cursive depot]

safeguarding blaz / ramp plan

dont know how this will affect truth on shinkas but overall big sign buff

[vast arch]

You gonna be able to get the 6 stacks reliably for rampaging planetesimal?

[sharp talon]

i would think the laser hitting the target multiple times would make it easy

[cursive depot]

havent tested it personally yet but I would imagine a good sign should be able to proc it all 6 from 1 use

[vast arch]

I wonder if the AOE confine counts as hitting with abilities

[cursive depot]

you can ask mass and mythic, believe they are running it at stage 85

[misty marsh]

can u do my farming too

[cursive depot]

huh

sorry gotta enter the mines yourself

[twilit thistle]

👀

Idk i think cordon is kinda actuall chill now uh 🥵

[sharp talon]

u can farm dire pretty easily now

[twilit thistle]

@vast arch did u know it was farmable

[sharp talon]

50% exotic gem chance insane 🔥

[twilit thistle]

It gets better!?

X_X

[sharp talon]

dire 11 is 50% chance

every time we do cordon i get a gem almost every time

[vast arch]

damn that's wild

[twilit thistle]

Lock in

[sharp talon]

wait itll go to 60% later

damn

from an engram

[obtuse chasm]

Damn that’s horrible you should just give it to me

[twilit thistle]

How long does it take to complete it? It might not even be worth it tbh if mythics are better. When I was going thru them, i noticed that there is no way to see the odds of the traits that drop with them. I think your odds of getting a max mythic are higher than an exotic.

Thats bc of how probability works when you have two attributes dropping. That would make it way harder to get a godroll

[sharp talon]

i dont remember how long it takes to do 11, but like 27 or 28 (dk which we are on rn) is like around 8 minutes

[twilit thistle]

@cobalt beacon 🥺 I need u for science

😔 is ok i wait

Gem drops, and efficiency of various stages/rarity of gems. You can farm those in cordon. Stage 7 is a guaranteed mythic, stage 11 has a 50% chance of an exotic gem drop.

[obtuse chasm]

Efficiency is decided by how good your team is

If you have a good team 11+ is worth farming

[twilit thistle]

Not if the gems dropping are lower quality stats by far on the exotics. We dont know what the range is on them.

[cursive depot]

dang ill have to jump into some more cordons now

missing a few exotics / some could be better and not have double shield durability

[obtuse chasm]

You don’t know what you’re talking about

Exotics are the move anyone saying mythics are better to farm for are coping that they aren’t good enough for 11

[sullen depot]

All gem stat rolls are purely rng. Whether it be mythic or exotic

[twilit thistle]

This is my incentive. If its pure rng, that would mean exotics are going to be crazy hard to get good rolls on, unless we get one like the 5% to drop (if that is even max).

[obtuse chasm]

I’d rather have 2 bonus stats compared to 1, unless for some odd reason I’m focusing mainly one characters traits for emanare even then the % is so minimal it’s not worth min maxing

[obtuse chasm]

The drop rate is extremely high for cordon 11, its better to farm 11

[sullen depot]

It’s all rng. But exotics are always better cuz u get two stats rather than one. U just gotta wait for the right exotic stat to drop.

[cursive depot]

2 stats + 100 power

[sullen depot]

We got chaos farm and now we got cordon farm

[twilit thistle]

If that rng is split over both tho, and it can even be half and half, that adds alot more variation to it.

[cursive depot]

almost out of the chaos mines

[obtuse chasm]

Brother it’s not that deep, a 1% or even 2% bonus does not warrant the extra stat bonus you’re missing out on, on top of power

[vast arch]

You'd rather have 0.6% weapon damage and 0.8% healing over 5% weapon damage by itself?

[obtuse chasm]

Like I said it’s valid for people not good enough for 11

[obtuse chasm]

I’d rather farm a better exotic gem

I have plenty tho and don’t have any rolls that bad

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar what is truly better, 2.5% primary and power weapon dmg, or 5% primary / 5% weapon. Taniks math needed. We also dont know if mythics cap lower than exotics.

[stark forge]

what will happen to the gems when emanare reset ?

dont tell me its converted to glimmer too

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-illusionist-magician-jochem-nooyen-gone-gif-17492543

[obtuse chasm]

I’m not saying it’s a horrible idea but your spending to much time min maxing something with little to no reason to do so, that 2% damage is not going to be so beneficial that you should be spending time focusing on it

[sullen depot]

Essentially farming cordon gonna be the new meta soon. Now that we are at a point to comfortably play lvl 11

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah farming 11 is the move

[cursive depot]

regrind them most likely, I mean, at a 60% drop rate in cordon that wont be hard to do

[sullen depot]

Especially since u can skip the double impact shinkas in second room on this map

[stark forge]

so wait 6 weeks to farm gems ?

[obtuse chasm]

Honestly loving this map, maybe I’m more so happy that we don’t have 1 shotting flying rocks tho

With a hitbox that makes no sense

[sullen depot]

We don’t know anything about how the new season after this is gonna work. No use speculating until the confirm

[cursive depot]

the modifier this week is also nonexistent

[obtuse chasm]

I can’t stand last weeks modifier my least favorite of them all

But it’s more so just a nuisance then anything else

[cursive depot]

yea but that one is basically active the entire strike and this one is you can just not engage with if you wanted

[obtuse chasm]

You’re thinking to hard on it, farm 11 and focus those rolls on exotics not mythics

[cursive depot]

makes the experience of the strike as if there were no modifier basically

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah 100% I agree

[twilit thistle]

They almost have to refund it somehow, and reset it. Guess: sesonal tokens.

[sharp talon]

the bubbles can be a problem in the first phase of the boss

not an issue prob in 11 cuz u nuke him so quickly

[cursive depot]

but thats it

which on Ikora dont bother me too much since Im just on the boss anyway

[sharp talon]

ye and ur lasers can go through the bubbles anyway

[indigo solar]

Damn that's crazy, since it's probably multiplicative too

[twilit thistle]

❤️‍🔥

[indigo solar]

If it's additive with even one other source tho it's probably pretty mid

[twilit thistle]

Which would be better? We dont know the range is the issue, and the distribution of exotics could cause issues, or even not be worth it for most scenarios. Obviously exotic is better, but in the current state, is it worth it?

[indigo solar]

5% weapon would obviously be better than 2.5% primary and power, since "weapon" would mean both primary and power anyways. If you mean just one or the other tho, 5% power would be a better pick than 2.5% both imo, but 2.5% both would beat 5% primary

[twilit thistle]

This is the one that i have seen. It looks like pure rng on the drops.

That would make it harder to get. Alot harder.

[indigo solar]

I mean tbh right now it seems like exotic is the way to go purely bc of power deltas, since we're apparently under light for most content now

[twilit thistle]

Instead of going all into primary for example, it can go into another, taking away from the max of that primary. Note this is stage 11 cordon to farm it.

[obtuse chasm]

50% is not “a lot harder” it’s the content itself and if 11 is that rough for you then a 2.5% extra weapon damage bonus isn’t going to help you

Wasting time min maxing something when your focus should be elsewhere

[fiery marsh]

2.5 × 4 gems does

[twilit thistle]

When you stack them it makes a big difference. Actually being able to control it.

[fiery marsh]

10% dmg buff is big deal

[twilit thistle]

Espeically if it goes up past 5%

[obtuse chasm]

Yes but that’s not the point of the current conversation

[twilit thistle]

We dont know the max, its all a mystery. Part of it is i want to explore it

[obtuse chasm]

Yes but why would you farm the max on a mythic compared to an exotic?

[fiery marsh]

Exotic for 2 stats instead of 1

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah that’s what I’m getting at

No point on min maxing a mythic just for it to get beat out by an exotic with not only a max roll, but also another added bonus

[fiery marsh]

Im mostly aiming for heavy dmg and dmg for my jolder

And if im running estela, mainly primary and damage

Cause furies III is goated :3

[obtuse chasm]

I agree, love furies just wish I had a t6 Estella to run it with 😔

[fiery marsh]

Ppl gave me flack for saying that. XD but my dmg numbers dont lie. Gallows, Thunderlords hits the same dmg numbers as Furie III while heir beats it out by 2 mil in a 16 second dmg test

21 mil in 16 vs heir at 23 mil in 16

Is it worth running heir at that point?

[frozen tree]

I mean uptime on furies is infinite since no ammo restriction

[fiery marsh]

I got maybe 130 shots per mag with furies III

[fresh moat]

🤨 furies 😢

[fiery marsh]

The ammo regen on precision is super nice with 68 ammo capacity

[frozen tree]

In all fairness it’s a cool weapon

[obtuse chasm]

Nah gallows is meta

[fresh moat]

Yeah forget damage when you got 3million bullets

[fiery marsh]

It does nothing to spread shinka no more 🙁

Gotta mag dump to pop spread shinkas in cordons man

[obtuse chasm]

Ikora exists brother 😔

[indigo solar]

Their point is that exotics may have half the cap

[fiery marsh]

But if furies III does the same damage as gallows. Is it worth running gallows?

[twilit thistle]

" why would you farm the max on a mythic compared to an exotic?" Hodl on i have to do math so this will be delayed. because it was very hard to get the max on the mythic. For an exotic, the math gets weird, bc i saw its not evenly distributed.
Dual-Stat Item: The item still has a similar total budget, but it is forced to split it between two distinct attributes. If this is the case, getting a "perfect" dual-stat gem is exponentially harder, not just 2x harder.
I think a single stat is 2% chance That would be 45x harder. And note this isnt even considering the other rolls bc im not that good at math

[indigo solar]

So you can hit 5% on a mythic but only 2.5% per slot on an exotic

[twilit thistle]

Taniks pls

[fiery marsh]

And the ice skin is lit i guess

[sharp talon]

i have gotten 3.5% on an exotic

[sullen depot]

It’s all rng. U can have high exotic rolls too

[cursive depot]

^ just more rng but exotics are just better

[obtuse chasm]

They don’t

[twilit thistle]

Im aware. I dont know if they can go higher, i know they can be as high as the math mythic (at least from observations on other gems)

[indigo solar]

Ok cool

[indigo solar]

That's a 5.7%

[twilit thistle]

No. I mean one stat can be 5% is what i am pretty sure can happen

[sharp talon]

wtf

[quick fractal]

new player here so ive been watching alot of youtube telling me to reset abilities before chapter 7-2 if i want to pick 3 other characters to invest, am now at chapter 8 and they force u to use wolf for mission omen but cant enter without enough power lvl, so back to investing into wolf or is there a workaround?

[sharp talon]

???

[fiery marsh]

Is doing 31% boss damage in stage 11 cordons a lot for jolder?

[indigo solar]

Yeah exotics have the same cap

So they are just a direct upgrade

[twilit thistle]

It took like 10 to get 5%.

[indigo solar]

Bc you've got the same odds of getting the first slot perfect, but then you also get bonus stats

[twilit thistle]

Thats just for mythics.

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah you’re thinking to hard on it brother, it’s not that deep, exotics are better, and if you’re struggling farming them then your priorities should be spent min maxing elsewhere

[sharp talon]

this prob my best roll

[twilit thistle]

Better but not obtainable is essentially what i am saying.

[obtuse chasm]

They are very much obtainable

[indigo solar]

Gems are infinitely farmable

[twilit thistle]

Unless you want to run cordon 100+times

[fiery marsh]

Keep running 11s

XD

[indigo solar]

Also when you're talking about min maxing you usually assume you can get everything

[obtuse chasm]

Wouldn’t you be doing the same thing farming a groll gem? So why not focus exotics instead of mythics? Potentially getting a groll exotic instead of wasting time on 10-

[fiery marsh]

For exotics gotta spam run 11s I think

[rotund flame]

Wtf? Say it isn't so. I already have a hard time getting high tier gems and your telling me they have high and low rolls 🗿

[cursive depot]

once you are done with expanse climbing and grinding chaos, why not

[obtuse chasm]

Exactly, wasting time

Real lmao

[fiery marsh]

Eh... ur in the leaderboard at stage 12 anyways xD

Not too many ppl doing cordons imo

[worn musk]

Made it to 15 with furies

[obtuse chasm]

For cordon? My team is offline

We’re waiting to push 2 weeks left anyways

[fiery marsh]

One of my pack mates is on stage 29

[sharp talon]

Furies is op (never used it and dont have estella)

[fiery marsh]

Guy doesnt dleep

[visual rain]

how did we go from stage 12 to 29 what

[obtuse chasm]

Goop is cringe

[fiery marsh]

Sleep*

Ur just jealous xD

[sharp talon]

do s until 25

[obtuse chasm]

Trap is better

[obtuse chasm]

Nah I just genuinely don’t like y’all’s ego’s

[fiery marsh]

Egos? We play with trap too xD

Kinda meld together in a way

[fresh moat]

Ya do?

[obtuse chasm]

I’m referring to 1-3 players in your pack

[obtuse chasm]

Everyone plays together

[fiery marsh]

Am I one of those? :3

[obtuse chasm]

No

[worn musk]

🐐

[fiery marsh]

Damn straight! Rage baiting the other estela mains out there

[fresh moat]

The most

[cursive depot]

😢

[fiery marsh]

What abiut em jolder mains?

[obtuse chasm]

Yall steal change from water fountains

[fiery marsh]

I like estela... shes easy to run. Just stand, shoot and spam abilities

[visual rain]

can i join my pack is dead 😭

[fiery marsh]

Pure skiplz

Pure skills with estela

[cursive depot]

Im make it to 80 rapid soon on estela trust

[fiery marsh]

Ill grind tonight

[worn musk]

Rs

[fiery marsh]

Give me all the Asian jokes my man. I can handle it

[visual rain]

trust me i am very used to that

also wtf game giving me finnalla and fkn attal

[fiery marsh]

I say Asian jokes to Ricky all the time.. cause im Asian too xD

[obtuse chasm]

Finalla carries

[fiery marsh]

This is stage 3... we can solo those

[visual rain]

it says 7-8 right there man

[worn musk]

@visual rain apply ingame likely will handle that

[fiery marsh]

Oh nvm

[obtuse chasm]

Still soloable

[fiery marsh]

Misread mb

[visual rain]

yeah i havent done cordon as efri yet so seeing how it goes not on umeko

[obtuse chasm]

Should’ve made the switch ages ago

[visual rain]

oh fr ok sick

[twilit thistle]

If that was directed at me u can give them my spot in the pack.

[obtuse chasm]

Lmao

[fiery marsh]

Imma solo run it hard on jolder to 8 when its rapid impact or rapid, spread

Just wait xD

Ill make it work

[obtuse chasm]

Screw it solo it now

Solo 10

[fiery marsh]

Its impact precision

Probs likely will be doing that with jaren

[obtuse chasm]

Honestly I haven’t tried solo 10 I’d rather do it without bots tho

[visual rain]

tbh i dont even care about the gem stat boosts i just want the power

but getting a +2% power dmg is pretty nice i gotta say

[fiery marsh]

Ive been solo running challenge modes back then since season 2 on jolder xD

So i got the practice

I kinda miss challenge mode

[obtuse chasm]

I know, I see your fb posts fam

I watch them from time to time

[fiery marsh]

Which fb group?

[sullen depot]

fb.....uncle status

[obtuse chasm]

Since cc content is non existent

[fiery marsh]

The unofficial one?

[obtuse chasm]

There’s an official one?

Idk bruh I don’t be on fb like that 😭

[fiery marsh]

Yee but it used to get stuck in pending

For months

[obtuse chasm]

Just was looking for Dr groups and checked everywhere till I stumbled upon the official disc got tired of playing solo

I’m loyal to my guys 😔

I do like yall tho

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[obtuse chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-7403118861599528686

[indigo solar]

😭

[grizzled sentinel]

Damn sure is windy today

[obtuse chasm]

Wait a minute where’d he go 😭

Bro was wiped from existence

[cursive depot]

he went missin

[fresh moat]

Lmfao

#Freelikely

[obtuse chasm]

#freelikely

[indigo solar]

#keephimbanned

[worn musk]

#freelikely

[fresh kayak]

#freelikely

[indigo solar]

#gethisassouttahere

[fresh moat]

Damn you getting paid for this ?

[vocal palm]

Likely should only be free’d once he gets the correct Jaren 4th slot

[indigo solar]

REAL

[hexed hamlet]

#freelikely

#freelikely

[fresh moat]

#freelikely until it’s backwards

[vocal palm]

#undauntedspiral

[fresh moat]

#furiesIII

[hexed hamlet]

#freelikely

[sullen depot]

#freebackwards until its likely

[fresh moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bars-bars-conceited-reginald-sergile-yo-mtv-raps-s1e4-gif-25830290

[vast arch]

#nomorevaliantveil

[bitter estuary]

likely balls

[fresh moat]

Real

[obtuse chasm]

I’m a bepisman translator he also said #freelikely

[bitter estuary]

true

[sharp quiver]

free my boy likely

[worn musk]

#1trapperLikely

[fresh moat]

https://tenor.com/view/trapcity-trap-city-young-jeezy-youngjeezy-clifton-powell-gif-11606957717171803084

[sharp quiver]

don’t know what he did, probably deserved, but he’s still my dawg so free him

[hexed hamlet]

#freelikely
#freelikely

[vast arch]

Alright that's enough of that. Spamming in here isn't going to change anything. Please move on

[storm mural]

#freemybflikely

[bitter estuary]

sparrow racing is balls i keep getting trinklieder 20 times in a row

[visual wharf]

REAL

[hexed hamlet]

Get in the pack VC Donkey

[obtuse chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-tree-friends-htf-nutty-free-my-man-gif-21955760

[visual rain]

sorry guys im a little late i was in cordon

[bitter estuary]

wolf best

[visual rain]

free the 🐐 !!!

[weak ginkgo]

welp time to get all 70

[bitter estuary]

balls

[fresh moat]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[cursive depot]

almost there

[obtuse chasm]

Goodluck bro 💪

[weak ginkgo]

you know ima need it

[astral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-the-patrick-star-show-yes-gif-2201400520488940521

[weak ginkgo]

with this gon be hard... been slacking on my kora

[cursive depot]

nah stage 70 is shank boss right

you got that

[astral bear]

I did it on jaren using swordbreaker and TeD lol

[sullen depot]

stage 69 rapid is the real deal though

[cursive depot]

pretty sure he cleared that

[sullen depot]

it shows he on stage 68 on sc

[sharp talon]

i just restarted my spread run its so much easier

idk why i kept trying with bad gifts

[cursive depot]

oh rapid

im dumb

[humble jacinth]

You guys circumventing the shinka system is gonna make the devs make shinkas shields take significantly less damage from non matching weapons.

[cursive depot]

true get these efrideets and jarens outta my estela expanse side

[sullen depot]

eh i see solar on rapid and jaren calls to me

[cursive depot]

I see arc on rapid and cry

pray that 80-90 rapid is solar

[indigo solar]

Circumventing the shinka system has been a thing since alpha

[river vigil]

dont forget when wolf players would use the super charged satiyaaliksni to break impact shinkas

[neon pebble]

This hits off element harder also, doesnt have to be matching element or shinka 🤣

Also if they fixed circumventing would that be any diff than us just not doing it?

[tribal atlas]

Does anyone know when we will be able to get adept mods

[river vigil]

reliably? maybe phase 8 from the prestige raid

[cursive depot]

rn if you lucky

[visual rain]

found a cheese spot for this stupid boss

bro keeps running around and i cant damage him cus i have a scout and sniper

i was there for like 10 min

[tribal atlas]

Just put increases fire rate mod on total lockdown

[visual rain]

that doesnt help when you cant shoot the damn thing because hes literally 2 inches from your face and keeps teleporting

[tribal atlas]

How do ppl have different color names what

[visual rain]

pick a role in that one channel

[tribal atlas]

Then dont do that campaign on adept 3

Ez solution

[visual rain]

why would i not do adept 3

its easy that boss is just a pain in the as on umeko

[tribal atlas]

Oh yeah

[vast arch]

That boss is annoying playing as anyone who wants headshots for damage

[visual rain]

usain bolt over here locking me in a stalemate cus neither of us are dying

[bitter estuary]

where is this at

[visual rain]

i think it was the very front of the room from where you entered

[bitter estuary]

this would be so much convenient so the lightning procs and ads dont annoy me much

[obtuse chasm]

This is Lc?

[bitter estuary]

ye

[visual rain]

you can also go under that little bridge and the pathfinding on the boss starts bugging and he cant really hit you

but its also hard to shoot his head when its kinda inside of a wall

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah 13 mins is way to long just do shifting atp

[vast arch]

Shifting for exotic infusion cores?

[obtuse chasm]

Wanted to see if it was genuinely hard, it takes awhile to get to the actual boss but the boss itself is not worth cheesing

[obtuse chasm]

Yes 5 each run

5mins or so each run

[tribal atlas]

Anyone wanna grind legacy with me 😄

[obtuse chasm]

Sure inv

[tribal atlas]

What's ur user

[obtuse chasm]

GenArrows

[tribal atlas]

Ohh ik u

[obtuse chasm]

Yessirrr

[vast arch]

love getting natural god rolled 5 stars

I guess the game thinks this artifact needs overshield bonus lmao

[robust sequoia]

Each artifact seems to have their own ‘assigned’ stat… rampaging pact loves super dmg

[visual rain]

whats the fastest exotic core farm as efrideet

i am not playing a 10 minute s**tty gates game for 4 cores

[sullen depot]

only option is SG or LC

[visual rain]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-kitty-sleepy-tired-gif-9176539601255345484

[twilit thistle]

wdym i was getting 2:30 on that lc adept 3. U know ur about to go beat me too.

[visual rain]

well surrounded is arc piercing rn so...

[visual rain]

nah man my artifacts are still for umeko and my guns arent even maxed

[twilit thistle]

Crimson.

[visual rain]

probably take me like 4 min

[visual rain]

i actually didnt even have crimson at all until i pulled it from a random engram earlier then used my remaining 3 on the copies

and i have 0 cores rn and i need to level it for expanse

[twilit thistle]

Oh f. Photons too.

Um i mean there are two ways. One is be cooked.

I did 50 and only got 1 photon yesterday.

[visual rain]

im all good on photons rn i got 9

[obtuse chasm]

SG is not 10 mins

[sharp talon]

sparrow should be open 24/7 smh

[obtuse chasm]

Facts

[obtuse chasm]

It should also have a 95k power req 😏

Gunna make a support claim rn “put power restrictions on casual events”

[candid phoenix]

Who u using this on?

[neon pebble]

Is the cooldown gone?

[vast arch]

no idea but it's a great roll

[candid phoenix]

oh okay lol

i've been using it on efri but i'm not sure it feels that good tbh

[obtuse chasm]

Good Gwynn art

[candid phoenix]

there's a cooldown? it's not listed

maybe that's why it feels bad lol

[twilit thistle]

Just do adept 2 if it is a problem i bet u can still hit sub 3 min, i did 50. most of the time is in the last encounter and the boss. When u pass the dregs in the hallway, and turn for that last encounter, right after stepping in jump up, (and turn right) , climb up on the ledge (it says ur oob, so walk forward a little). Kill everything you can from there, theres a vandal that spawns last on the first wave u have to get down and kill. Randal spawns last. Then its the shinka. I found most of the time was on that first wave.

[vast arch]

nope, wrong artifact lmao

[candid phoenix]

Man i need to somehow take damage in the range so i can test healing lol

[vast arch]

piercing shinka

or impact shinka bubble

[candid phoenix]

ooh

[opal merlin]

Is there any difference in the rewards of the adept strike/blitz compared to the heroic?

[sullen depot]

nope which is silly

[candid phoenix]

after you get your 20 weekly high-value rewards, no

[humble jacinth]

Adept give the mats for adept mods

[opal merlin]

thanks

[sullen depot]

they need to buff the other rewards for adept imo

[twilit thistle]

y does it say starts in 12h 31m

[sullen depot]

no idea

oh wait actually its when the strike changes

so new map or whatever each day. basically at reset

[twilit thistle]

I saw a chest in there i couldnt claim

[sullen depot]

just one more perkto go. sparrow racing coming in clutch

[twilit thistle]

The drops looked better ngl. I didnt see any 3 stars.

[sharp talon]

how long did it take u?

[sullen depot]

thats more so cuz we on phase 5

[sullen depot]

i just started the tech today fully lol

[sharp talon]

afk farm?

[cursive depot]

missing the same upgrade

[sharp talon]

at least its useless

[sullen depot]

nah going for 1st for more weapon drops

i got time to kill

[twilit thistle]

The quality of those that did drop with mythic weapon perks seemed to reflect this. Felt like slightly more dropped with extra perks. (of those that even had mythic perks)

[thorny frost]

Casual content I think became what it should be (except iron bar). Sparrow low effort way to farm some weapons, cards a low effort way to get sheafs and weapon infusion cores to work on upgrades.

Upgrade iron bar… it has weaker rewards for effort then sparrow racing :/

[sullen depot]

imma finally be able to complete the sparrow racing seal i never decided to do lol

[thorny frost]

At least this triumph is finally obtainable now. I don’t think it was prior to season 4 as I swore I did that quite a bit.

[twilit thistle]

Seals>triumphs imo.

[river vigil]

which section is that triumph in?

[thorny frost]

The guardians trial

[twilit thistle]

If someone ever gets all these guilded, can we just like give them a billion silver.

[river vigil]

damn I actually have to participate in a sparrow race

[river vigil]

I'm getting there but I didnt finish the last season's gilding due to family issues

[signal spade]

im lazy i have at least 1 more easy gild maybe 2 if i lock in

cordon 11 S rank havent tried yet

[river vigil]

I'm too lazy to find/make a premade for dire difficulties XD

also I'm almost always in chaos if i'm actively playing the game so finding time for cordon is also hard

[vast arch]

I feel like I live in chaos now

[candid phoenix]

i had a nice break of morgran's prey yesterday

[twilit thistle]

😱 @indigo solar It can drop with comet/fletched. Just not electrify for some reason.

[river vigil]

sadly even on the trashiest of modifiers I still try to get atleast 50 chests in chaos XD

[lean harbor]

so I just came back after a break and all of my gold medal characters are reset? what was the point in grinding then all out then?

[signal spade]

acclaims dead so idk

[dusty spire]

:/

[signal spade]

you dont want the expanse goat?

[dusty spire]

Come on netease I’m waiting g

Tbf the hero’s I got climbing me through 😅

Especially jolder lol

[signal spade]

joldrs goated

swords got a kind of big glow up with the new mods

[dusty spire]

I swear she’s the real deal in the defender world

[dusty spire]

Agreed

[signal spade]

im farmin her artifacts now

[signal spade]

ill prob just make a full radiation set just cause i dont have one

[dusty spire]

It’s the main one but also don’t sleep on the impact set for the solar combo

But radiant first for all rounder imo

[gusty bridge]

This Spread expanse is really piercing expanse with all this far platform and snipers 😂

[dusty spire]

Jolder has so many builds to be fair lol

[river vigil]

eventually I'll go back into spread to take my efrideet past 82

[twilit thistle]

This is a stupid broken +crimson build. Infinite dodges so infinite ammo. Those dodges set everything on fire. And every 3 rounds does aoe dmg.

[river vigil]

one day, when these artifacts are farmed

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-meme-looking-out-the-window-sad-missing-out-sad-squidward-gif-5401562831942688207

[gusty bridge]

I need 2 more 5star artifacts for Ikora

[dusty spire]

Yeah guess what I had to dice today to get rid of a super stat just to get the roll I wanted

Taken 20 bp token to do so

Chaos rng is fake

[twilit thistle]

💀 ive done it with the big dice.

[dusty spire]

Some stats have a higher probability

Like super

Super super super

Every single artifact I got

Got super

When in with tan

[twilit thistle]

actually its slot 1 and 2 that are worse. There is 1 more potential roll 🤓

[dusty spire]

Still got super lol not even dmg up

Neteas played with my souls this week

[river vigil]

I love that brigand arm hitboxes can block sniper headshots :T

[timber stag]

Why do people think Tan is so bad?

[signal spade]

i think its because he is

[neon pebble]

I thought expanse 40 was 94k its 97k 💀

[signal spade]

one of his signatures is a dead button to swap between stances which is incredibly boring imagine if helhest had to like stance swap for drone dropping

[bitter estuary]

he’s clunky

[signal spade]

also the well in this game is beans

[bitter estuary]

attal would be worse, but recently,

til eternal death+del9 has made her outdamage tan2 with ease which is weird but lmao

[signal spade]

attals t6 is unironically one of the stronger talents in the game

and her healing is significantly less annoying to execute than tans

[bitter estuary]

4* supports are just better than tan-2 atp

i really can’t justify using tan-2 maybe except when its t6 but then again he’s still clunky as hell

[twilit thistle]

Umeko holds the crown for most op.

Nah i guess hh would. Among 4 stars tho

[bitter estuary]

attal super+umeko debuff = nuke

both at t6 obv

[twilit thistle]

• lvl 3 hh drone= nuclear winter

[bitter estuary]

i said 4 stars

https://tenor.com/view/bombastic-side-eye-gif-10871198272108326257

[twilit thistle]

yea. obtainum.

[signal spade]

umekos ult is just a 5 star on its own

that and somehow we have no debuffer other than her

[twilit thistle]

poor xuan wei.

[signal spade]

once we get a mythic 5 star with tether its over for umeko

[cursive depot]

gotta be some debuffer on the way

[twilit thistle]

We thought it was bc ikora does debuff, think its just for ikora tho iirc

[bitter estuary]

actually its over for efrideet

[twilit thistle]

Shocked they didnt do it to helhest.

[indigo solar]

Confine ain't a damage debuff

That's what's making Umeko useful

[twilit thistle]

Its something stevelion said.

Granted we dont have a superweapon to test it with. I doubt it would be practical even for her lol

[dusty spire]

He rocks

Just need skilled team since when you play support your not the focus of attention

If they utilise support it’s shown if not might aswell get another offensive

[indigo solar]

Nah sadly no reason to use him anymore

Helhest is just better

[vast arch]

It really bothers me how lazy this change was. I don't even think this is obtainable since there are no modifiers in Blitz anymore

[stiff breach]

Should I artifact every character or only 4-5 for the different modes in the nine area

[indigo solar]

More damage, better boosting, better healing, better movement, better ammo

[twilit thistle]

More op.

[indigo solar]

Wait for prestige challenge

[twilit thistle]

Can u still launch solo?

[neon pebble]

When new debuffer drops HH will be like umeko and only used for 6man raids

[summer kite]

That was exhilarating, finished piercing stage 50 in endless as f2p yay

[neon pebble]

Who you use

[summer kite]

Efrideet with trusty Borealis lol

[twilit thistle]

❤️‍🔥

[sullen depot]

holY finalllyyyyyyy

LETS GOOOOO

i sleep now

[uneven plover]

congrat'

[signal spade]

whats the bis maru setup

[sullen depot]

i got so lucky cuz for some reason the boss fell down to that spot so the servitor never ot to make it immune lol

[uneven plover]

You were incredibly lucky indeed

[twilit thistle]

😭 this is so op but @visual rain i spent 4 too many seconds testing it.

Adept is new to me too, so that just makes it more op.