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[twilit thistle]

Borealis op @neat valley I was getting crazy dmg using Hawkeye

[pine verge]

what a gamer

[obtuse chasm]

I saw one on character launch but after that they vanished lol

[slow olive]

Must be me

[pine verge]

High accuracy, huge damage

[remote grove]

I run Izzy efri on blitz to one shot mobs and steal mvp

[frozen tree]

Tbf a lot probably had izi built so they slapped it on her

[slow olive]

I arrogantly claim the title of the only Izanagi Efrideet user to ever exist

[modest tiger]

ur sadly mistaken

[pine verge]

this is the endgame

[slow olive]

THE AUTOLOADING SUPERROUND TRICK SLAPS HARD

[indigo solar]

No, I'm saying first you claimed it was bad at boss damage without proof. You said "look at high level cordon and expanse." I looked, and the majority of high level cordon players use BP. The highest cordon player uses BP. The highest expanse player uses crimson. It's nearly a 50/50 split for crimson/BP for high level expanse players. I've just been pointing out that your proof doesn't support your argument

[modest tiger]

I use iznaagi efirdeet with blue handcannon

[slow olive]

I TELL YOU CLOUDSTRIKE AND CRIMSON EFRIDEET CHUDS CAN GO SWALLOW MY IZANAGI BARELL

[modest tiger]

We must rise up

[slow olive]

IZANAGI EFRIDEET SUPREMACY GRAAAAAGH

[pine verge]

Im commited to cloudstrike to aurafarm on redbars

[indigo solar]

Because day one it let you get 4x honed for 1 ammo, but they patched it after like 8h

[remote grove]

GET EM

[pine verge]

they'll buff cloudstrike and I will be number 1 on all leaderboards

[obtuse chasm]

I never stated the bp hc was “bad” just that crimson was more viable

And if I did I’ll correct myself

[indigo solar]

You said it was worse at boss damage

[slow olive]

I SWEAR IF THEY PATCH HER AUTOLOADING SUPERROUND MECHANIC

[indigo solar]

And there's absolutely nothing supporting that it's better at boss damage

[slow olive]

I WILL CURSE THEM TO FOREVER MAKE ARC PRECISIONS

[indigo solar]

Except your own anecdote

[twilit thistle]

Meanwhile the players who see Borealis taking away 2/3 of the ads health get to save mats

[indigo solar]

It still loads honed rounds but it takes away 4 ammo now

[wide dagger]

[remote grove]

Poor gwynn 🤣

[modest tiger]

Xuan Wei better

[pine verge]

TED will probably be even better with a better 140rpm mythic sniper

Since the procs are all on hit anyways

[indigo solar]

Friendly reminder of how the argument started

[obtuse chasm]

Yes and I still do not see where I said it was bad

Or that I myself don’t use it

[modest tiger]

@indigo solar TED is more Jaren’s gun

[indigo solar]

You said I was wrong, so either BP has better ad clear, or Crimson has better boss damage

[obtuse chasm]

No crimson is more versatile making it better

[indigo solar]

I never made a judgement about which one was better overall

[obtuse chasm]

They’re pretty even in terms of boss damage

[pine verge]

There is literally a screenshot of what you said right there m8

[obtuse chasm]

Your point? Have I contradicted that statement?

[indigo solar]

If I say "X does A and Y does B" and you say "wrong," that doesn't mean "X is more versatile than Y," it means "either X does not do A or Y does not do B"

[neat valley]

😂

[modest tiger]

Holy TFD

[indigo solar]

So, is Crimson worse at ad clear or is BP worse at boss damage

Because you're claiming at least one of those

[remote grove]

Time to lock and load 😌 W

[modest tiger]

W

[neat valley]

lame decals in this game fr

[candid phoenix]

what device are you on? why is your screen so square lol

[remote grove]

Zfold 6

[indigo solar]

Tablet moment

[obtuse chasm]

Crimson is even with bp unless you factor in heavy, and better at ad clear, making it the better pick. Heavy economy at higher cordon is not easy to come by and you are not using heavy as often as you’d think

[wide dagger]

Nuh

[remote grove]

Close enough lol

[bitter estuary]

till ppl switch weapons on boss stages during expanse because they can save an exit regardless

[modest tiger]

Yes big nob

[obtuse chasm]

Saying one thing is better does not mean that the other can not do the same

[indigo solar]

That's... exactly what that means

[sharp talon]

you can also switch weapons during morgran

[indigo solar]

If X is better than Y at A, then Y can't do A as well as X

[bitter estuary]

^^

[plush void]

Hi

[bitter estuary]

ppl will use X and Y options when they get handed the option

[modest tiger]

This hurts my head

[obtuse chasm]

So if I say crimson is better at ad clear that means ted can’t ad clear

[indigo solar]

It means Ted can't ad clear as well as crimson

[plush void]

I think this game now go to rip

[bitter estuary]

this game wont eos

[pine verge]

Thy will be done

[indigo solar]

If I say BP is better boss damage than Crimson and you say "wrong," that means Crimson does at least as much boss damage as BP

Which just isn't true

And you've been unable to provide any proof to support the claim

[bitter estuary]

pause i think you're twisting their words

crimson has better ad clear AND tes has better boss/elite damage

[obtuse chasm]

Because it does with lightning procs based on heavy economy at higher stages in cordon

[indigo solar]

And your proof of this is?

[pine verge]

Gen clearly just cant admit when they're wrong

[plush void]

No

[indigo solar]

BP does 500000000x Crimson damage at higher stages in Cordon

Guess BP is best, now it's settled

[bitter estuary]

balls are balls, its all settled

[weak ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-17856173530980245283

[indigo solar]

Also again, I'm gonna point out that BP and Crimson trigger the exact same amount of lightning strikes and regen exactly as much javelin ammo

[neat valley]

too bad theres no 1v1s

[pine verge]

Ima test this now

[river vigil]

This is truly a private match moment

[sharp talon]

ning needs a nerf

[obtuse chasm]

EXPERIENCE as I said earlier as well as rawrs photo he shared and I’m sure there are others on top as well, you can’t base all your evidence on bangg in NA…

[indigo solar]

Also if you really want to maximise lightning strikes, you've got to do some tech, which I personally doubt you do

[obtuse chasm]

You’re a public event demon I’m sure

[indigo solar]

So, 1 person's anecdotal experience is more proof than over a dozen people's higher-level experience

[neat valley]

if there were more GOOD players, that KNEW how to play the game, we would have a much bigger variety

[plush void]

The number of players decreased last month, and the reason is simple: client development now requires a lot of money.

[obtuse chasm]

It’s not… because we all know how good bangg is…

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-what-is-bro-yapping-about-gif-14759966213520192304

[obtuse chasm]

It’s like saying likely using an off meta pick on Jaren makes it meta

[indigo solar]

Bangg isn't the only player using BP that got further than Crimson

[neat valley]

everyone hasnt even been running cordon either

[indigo solar]

Right, which is why we're using last cycle's LB

[neat valley]

i havent even played it since the start if the season

[bitter estuary]

me when i lie

they cannot make a pc client because of bungie, so their workaround is using mumuplayer

[indigo solar]

But also, if Bangg is an insanely good player, and they're pushing as far as they could go, don't you think they'd use a better gun if there were one

Them being a good player doesn't help your case

[obtuse chasm]

Bangg, tainiki, and fall… they might as well be the same person

[bitter estuary]

i feel like the cloudstrike would do better

[obtuse chasm]

They can utilize the weapon better, does not mean the weapon itself is better

[neat valley]

huh

[obtuse chasm]

Heavy economy at higher tiers as I said is a huge factor

[neat valley]

wtf this man say

[indigo solar]

So the experience of 3 people, who you've admitted are all very good, weighs less than your personal experience

[vast arch]

Unless you have seen the contract or this was disclosed by NetEase or Bungie then you can't say that for certain

[bitter estuary]

that borealis is maxed right?

[bitter estuary]

oh ok fair

[vast arch]

That's just a long standing assumption tbh

[indigo solar]

And if they're very good and pushing themselves to the limits, they're not going to artificially handicap themselves, are they

[bitter estuary]

ok edited

[twilit thistle]

Ye

[bitter estuary]

i hope thats more server friendly

[twilit thistle]

I will try it hold on

[modest tiger]

Yet the game has only gotten better

[remote grove]

Ogre got angry

[obtuse chasm]

How about this I’ll record some damage testing for the weapons themselves… if crimson wins, I win, if not then I’ll admit I’m wrong… 20 sec test on a servitor

[sullen depot]

If only netease actually did some marketing lol

[modest tiger]

Fr

[empty kettle]

The monthly player numbers are doing good

[sharp talon]

We need a glimmer leaderboard

[neat valley]

they really only changed the systems of the game, the maps and stuff have been pretty much the same from the start

[bitter estuary]

these are not accurate imo

[obtuse chasm]

And they’re all in chaos as we speak 😔

[remote grove]

Titles will bug out anyway :<

[sullen depot]

Back to the mines we go

[bitter estuary]

we need a balls leaderboard

[indigo solar]

20s test on normal servitor, not rapid servitor. Show heavy mods, artifacts, and attributes in the video, not as separate screenshots. Start on a different character before swapping to Efri before each test so damage numbers don't get screwed up from swapping loadouts

[empty kettle]

Do we have anything else that is accurate?

[neat valley]

nah we need a leaderboard on who spent the most moneyt

[remote grove]

Oh god lol

[bitter estuary]

none

[river vigil]

We don't need to see that

[modest tiger]

Give them a title

[bitter estuary]

its why ppl want the game on steam

[obtuse chasm]

Rapid servitor? What an underhanded insult lmao I’ll get your test rn bot

[remote grove]

People will go on a spend off for a title 😆

[bitter estuary]

so some randoms online would give crap on the game for whatever reason and calling it eos soon

[indigo solar]

Hey man I've seen people try to use shinkas to prove stuff before

[empty kettle]

But that would just be a limited number of people shown on it

[bitter estuary]

oh thats true

[bitter estuary]

neither ios/android has that

[modest tiger]

Just give me 1 more raid and I’ll b happy

[pine verge]

Nah I was right with my earlier assumption. Overflow points still count for recharge. Unsurprising since that's the selling point of Crimson. The point cap you referred to earlier is for additional recharge once competition time ends.

So yeah there's a clear advantage in total amount of lightning bursts with crimson.

[obtuse chasm]

And those players are lower tier players looking to skew numbers I only do straight damage tests anyways I’ll do it rn

[bitter estuary]

not even t a p t a p which is a chinese gaming appstore

[indigo solar]

Nah it's been people like Likely and threats trying to win arguments underhandedly

[obtuse chasm]

Ty, again I’m speaking from experience, but I’ll do the test anyways because I want to see for myself in range

[obtuse chasm]

I’m not that type person… I’ll record the tests here in a sec

[twilit thistle]

Well there isn’t any way I can match it to be 4 stars today 😭 this is actually ridiculous.

[twilit thistle]

Reasons Borealis is the goat

[sharp talon]

should i impulsively do a 10 pull on efrideets banner

[remote grove]

Izzy next

[twilit thistle]

Nah keep saving, unless u need it

[pine verge]

Funny 10 pulls is how I ended up with t5 maru. The horror

[twilit thistle]

It’s arc and I am under power, imagine the charged shot not breaking the shield

[remote grove]

Holy

[bitter estuary]

balls

[indigo solar]

Okay so first, quick question as someone who doesn't have c3, do TED's lightning strikes trigger the 2% energy

[remote grove]

Id cry if it didnt 😭

[radiant mural]

is the maintenance done?

thrs a new update today right

[sharp talon]

i did 500 stages of chaos today and got zero 5* undaunted spirals 🙁 how do people do 800 in a day 😭

[bitter estuary]

yeah this is better because thunderlord has great adclear lmao

[remote grove]

We just crazy like that

[bitter estuary]

🥺 i have 5* undaunted spiral

[indigo solar]

And second, even if they don't, crimson comes out to ~1.4 more javelins during a dodge assuming you have unlimited ammo and don't cast any other skills. If you play smartly though, with cooperative teammates you can already get 7+ javelins back to back so I'm not sure how much of a difference 8.4 vs 7 would really make

[sharp talon]

i also used 20 engrams on it omg

[remote grove]

"Next run ill surely get the artifact i want" non wishlist artifact drops
... "okay next run 🏃‍♂️

[indigo solar]

Don't worry, it'll drop on stage 1473

[bitter estuary]

rates are WACK

[remote grove]

You definitely just cursed me lol

[twilit thistle]

They only do the easiest method, and don’t come back to it again for a while. That’s why I don’t do that, you can just do 100-200 a day

[obtuse chasm]

I can’t do this damage testing properly seeing as my strat changes depending on the weapon and I’m getting skewed numbers, I’ll just agree with Ted being better at bossing

[sullen depot]

Just do the test with purely dashing and firing. No javelins involved

[obtuse chasm]

I run both personally

[indigo solar]

Nah javelins change it

[obtuse chasm]

But that’s the gimmick with crimson

[indigo solar]

^

[sullen depot]

Aaah ok nvm I dunno then

[obtuse chasm]

We know Ted out dpses crimson by itself

[indigo solar]

I really don't think ≤ 1.4 extra javelins leads to more damage than even a couple boosted heavy shots

[twilit thistle]

Borealis does the same regardless of the power level 👀 and if u let the shield come back u can do it again

[obtuse chasm]

I could test the weapons themselves but like we were talking about earlier you shouldn’t be using Ted for strictly the buff to itself

Or I could say screw the time and do a certain amount of mags for the pistol and empty all heavy

But then again Ted would still win

[pine verge]

I dont have it either unfortunately

[obtuse chasm]

I can’t properly test it

Idk if someone else would like to try now just to humor us both

[topaz nacelle]

Finally I got GWYNN

[obtuse chasm]

You’re account is now bricked

[indigo solar]

Nah it's simple, 540 * 1.24 = 669.6 rpm, Crimson can shoot 89 rounds in 8 seconds if it never has to reload. At 120 * 1.24 = 148.8 rpm, TED can shoot 19 shots in 8 seconds. Crimson getting an extra 70 shots equals an extra 140% javelin energy. Just look at how much damage a javelin does from impact and the 6 bolts, multiply by 1.4 and that's an rough approximation of how much extra damage Crimson is giving you

[sharp talon]

i do have c2 what do i have to do

idk efrideet

[indigo solar]

In practice it would be lower than that since you'd be casting abilities during dodge, which lowers Crimson's shot diff

But that's the upper limit

[topaz nacelle]

👀

[pine verge]

Stack 5x on servitor, dump both javs, dodge. Shoot once, see if recharge ticks twice

[obtuse chasm]

Get your head out of the gutter my friend that’s not what I meant 😭

[pine verge]

It doesnt tick twice with cloudstrike afaik. But ngl it might not even be hitting since my servitor was in the ceiling

Didnt bother resetting lmao

[topaz nacelle]

I'm not even thinking anything stupid

[indigo solar]

And since it only takes 5.7 seconds to regen a javelin in the worst case, it's not like the additional javelins are helping sustain artifact buffs

[obtuse chasm]

Oh well mb king carry on

[topaz nacelle]

I thought if my account is unstable or something

[obtuse chasm]

Nah invest everything into gwynn

[topaz nacelle]

Sure ty 🖤

[sullen depot]

What is the gameplay loop for efrideet anyways. I have t2 and haven’t started building her yet. Will start next week

[obtuse chasm]

No problem, have fun

[pine verge]

Folk really underestimate how hard IST3 hits when boosted by TED though. In general efrideet's weapon damage is quite nice. Makes me wish maru also had weapon damage on her passive

[indigo solar]

@sharp talon don't do it quite like this. Shoot 3, then cast the javelins, then shoot 3 more. Send a screen recording, since the recharge from lightning could happen in the same tick so you need to compare how much the bar moves

[pine verge]

At t6 its 30% more weapon damage, and barb/horror is real nice

[twilit thistle]

Remember it has to be upgraded to 5 stars and be lvl 90 😭 I don’t even think u saw me crash out bc of the growing unobtanium for battle pass weapons either bc my teds dropped at lvl 70 and 1 star

The one time I was advocating for F2P things u agree with 😭

[indigo solar]

Cast javelins, dodge, dump weapons, dodge some more while dumping to refresh ammo, repeat

[pine verge]

I feel that bro I cant level my weapons anymore. I have to spend black market coins and screw that lol

[obtuse chasm]

Im hitting 1.3 mil for first shot 1.2 mil for half the mag then 1 mil for the rest for the most part ist and ted are goated I use both just to clarify

[sullen depot]

U wanna space out ur javelin cast ? Or u just insta cast as they are up

[indigo solar]

If you've got cooperative teammates, you want to hit your main target with a phantom javelin and prioritise a one-tap enemy with the main javelin

[pine verge]

Actual freight train. Imagine when she gets better 140rpm snipes. Cloudstrike I weep

[obtuse chasm]

With crimson space it out

Or anything tbh

[pine verge]

You just need to fully proc her lightning burst before throwing another one

So 6 hc or 2 snipes

Or a mix, same thing

[indigo solar]

If you use the tech I just sent you want to wait at least half a second, so the energy replenishes. There's not really an inherent advantage one way or another tho without the tech, up to you if you want to save for reproccing artifacts and such

[indigo solar]

Nah the bursts are tied to each javelin, casting another doesn't reset the count

Though having multiple on one enemy allows extra damage from wm4 so you do want to cast the second before the first disappears

[pine verge]

Im pretty sure recasting resets the javelins on the enemy

Back to practice range I go

[sharp talon]

is this right?

[obtuse chasm]

No

Spear, dash, then empty clip

[indigo solar]

Nope, as you can see it procs a damage instance for each javelin on the target

Also can we talk about how lame it is that crimson only procs one lightning per burst

[pine verge]

You're on a different page. Im saying that if you have lightning burst remaining, throwing another spear resets it back to 6 stacks.

Also I just tested it and I was right

So throwing two spears back to back is 6 procs

[indigo solar]

Not for the gameplay cycle, for checking if lightning strikes grant spear energy

[indigo solar]

Perfect

[obtuse chasm]

Oh mb

[pine verge]

You need to be in competition mode to recharge. Dodge first

[indigo solar]

It's not 6 stacks on the enemy tho, it's 6 stacks on the javelin. So one javelin gets 6, then casting another gets 6 more. Casting two javelins gets you 2 per shot for 6 shots though, it comes out the same

[indigo solar]

Oh yeah, didn't even notice 💀

[pine verge]

It's 6 stacks on the summoned entity, but it's basically the same as it being on the enemy anyways. And no it doesnt work like that

[sharp talon]

Dodge, shoot 3 times, javelin, shoot 3 times?

[pine verge]

I have t6 efrideet and if I theow my spear twice, I throw 6 javs at them and my lightning burst only procs 3 times

[signal spade]

ai believe in me

[sharp talon]

Jaren solos

[pine verge]

It's probably because you arent actually summoning more spears in the enemy. It's just counting how many hit when the summon was triggered

[river vigil]

I might have to do that for stage 9 if no one is queuing when I get back home XD

[pine verge]

Throwing another one just resets it as far as I can tell

[pine verge]

Really you just want to trigger the lightning from c2 while javelins are on cd, and while competition is up

[indigo solar]

Threw, dumped six shots, each procced one burst, threw again, each new shot procced one burst

Threw two, dumped six shots, each procced two bursts

[indigo solar]

Yes but make sure to throw both javelins so we can see the charge bar

[obtuse chasm]

Tip for efrideet testing spawn it on back plate

Or else it runs around 90% of the time

[indigo solar]

Yep, it's been a bug with blind for ages

Did the fix the issue where flinch can knock enemies inside walls though?

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah I can’t stand it

[indigo solar]

I'd prefer having to track an enemy over accidentally hitting walls for a test that doesn't need precision damage

[obtuse chasm]

I mean I was dealing with this in expanse 49 so I don’t think so

At least for shinkas that is

Their hitbox was clipping into the wall and even tho I was clearly aiming at their head it wouldn’t register once I popped them because they’d clip into the wall, not sure if that’s what you’re referring to tho

[twilit thistle]

So this is only dropping what is on my wishlist @indigo solar

Esplain

[indigo solar]

Cordon is tied to the wishlist too? 😭

[river vigil]

Cordon is a strike

[indigo solar]

I mean when enemies flinched after being hit they could clip into the wall. Repeated flinch was enough to get them all the way inside lmao

[obtuse chasm]

Ah yeah haven’t experienced it myself so I’m not sure if they fixed it or not

[signal spade]

lmfao

[indigo solar]

Just checked, they've fixed it thankfully

[pine verge]

Its a t6 thing after some further testing

[obtuse chasm]

Aghhh my team is offline so I can’t push and I got work today 😔 but we’ll probably skip day 1 so they have time to max their arts

[pine verge]

When I throw one spear I get 2 hits from lightning burst

[signal spade]

well that was like 300 leaves for pain with the bots so we're good

[pine verge]

Throw both, three hits. So im missing out on some hits

Probably because theres a cap of 3 spears in one enemy? Idk

I noticed it before which is why I always consume my lightning burst before throwing another. Now i know why lol

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah I unintentionally do the same thing lol

I’m also t6 tho

[pine verge]

Lookin like the lightning strike doesnt trigger the recharge

[twilit thistle]

Ye

[indigo solar]

Disappointing

So yeah the lightning strikes don't count

[indigo solar]

Oh well I mean if you really want to maximise your spears, you shouldn't be throwing the primary spear at the boss anyways

[pine verge]

Y not

[indigo solar]

It costs 100% energy for 1.7 spears that way

[pine verge]

Oh for the falling recharge

[indigo solar]

If you cast the primary spear at a one tap ad, and the secondary at the boss, it costs 30% energy for 0.7 spears

Meaning you get 2.33 spears per 100% energy

[pine verge]

More cuz t1

[neat valley]

is ning just useless now or what

[pine verge]

Thats too much work though brain ouchie

Unga bunga press spear shoot gun

[sullen depot]

No speedrun content for the boy anymore

[indigo solar]

No, you don't get the 10% on a one tap

Which is why you get the 70%

[pine verge]

10% only if the summon spawns?

[indigo solar]

Yes

[pine verge]

I thought it was both

[indigo solar]

Nope

iirc from week one whale tests

[signal spade]

we have assembled the holy trinity of ikora weapons

[indigo solar]

I've only got her t0 tho so if you want to retest feel free

[pine verge]

Still heal from one taps

[bitter estuary]

Wigkora balls

[pine verge]

Unless the wording is different and I didnt notice

[indigo solar]

Heal is based on them being blinded, which is immediate. Energy refund is based on # of spears attached to enemy when it dies, which should be 0

[dusty spire]

What a flex love it

[pine verge]

Either way its w/e

[sharp talon]

adept glow is awesome

[rotund raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-oh-damn-damn-shocked-surprise-gif-19375968

[dusty spire]

Facts

[twilit thistle]

😇

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/midget-short-guy-midget-cage-cage-short-guy-cage-gif-9960231358870053723

[pine verge]

Yeah I didnt notice the wording hahaha youre quick

[neat valley]

how yall look in chaos grind

[sharp talon]

500 today just garbage artis 😭

[twilit thistle]

How do I look in the cordon weapon drop exploit grind

[signal spade]

the real exploit is morgrans dropping blitz wishlist

strikes are already 2 minutes long

[neat valley]

exploit this and exploit that

thats all i hear since day 1

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bye-russia-ishowspeed-funny-meme-earth-gif-15495811749767980238

[sharp talon]

whats the fastest lg campaign this week

[signal spade]

armageddon if you have a character for it

[twilit thistle]

🤷🏼‍♀️

[signal spade]

this dropped in my level 5 today

[twilit thistle]

Labyrinth.

[signal spade]

now we're strong

[sharp talon]

sg wishlist still works for lg campaign right?

does heroic work?

[signal spade]

idk it refreshes at some point idk what causes it

or maybe placebo when it missed 3x in a row or something

sg wishlist is legit just do sparrow racing you get like triple the engrams

[sharp talon]

engrams?

[twilit thistle]

No idea. Heroic isn’t worth it go melt on the big Minotaur with Jaren u can probably do adept 2 in 2-3 mins

[signal spade]

you get the mats and like 3 weapon drops

[pine verge]

Sparrow racing is fat loot

[sharp talon]

u get choice engrams from sparrow??

[signal spade]

nah not choice i just mean you get infinite shards

plus the drop itself sometimes x21

x2*

[pine verge]

Its a shame sparrow racing is at a horrible time for me given my timezone

Should be 24/7

[signal spade]

yea shadowshaper being time limited also weird at this point

[twilit thistle]

For most of the encounter, you only have to shoot yellow bars, with the exception being the first wave of ads in this room.

[pine verge]

This one is my go to as well. For boss if you wait for him to commit to an attack you can blow him up and skip the teleports

And then blow him up again

[twilit thistle]

Benefits of having the wiki assets on standby 😇

[twilit thistle]

Miss 1 shotting him on Umeko tho those were the days

[pine verge]

I like that adept 3 fights back

They got some gumption

[twilit thistle]

I do adept 2. Not about to grind for 30 mins and sneeze, blowing the run.

[empty kettle]

Hit like trucks

[sharp talon]

ye it took around 2 mins pretty good

[pine verge]

Efrideet dun care cuz competition mode is op

Immortality gene

[sharp talon]

it didnt drop thermo tho 😭

i think they fixed

[pine verge]

I did a adept 3 on umeko for fun and it took actually forever

I think it was like 9 minutes of suffering

Peanut launcher and running for cover

[sharp talon]

i tried it once on my weak ning with lvl 80 artifacts, didnt go well

[pine verge]

I say suffering but it was actually fun tbh. Only suffering because I can switch characters and obliterate it

Having t6 is a curse

[twilit thistle]

😇 go do cordon that one is 100% guaranteed to drop ur pick

[sharp talon]

sg wishlist?

[twilit thistle]

Strikes

[sharp talon]

thermo isnt in there 😭

its gonna take me ages to get an adept thermo

[pine verge]

Just farm shifting gates

[sharp talon]

15 min for a match brurh

[pine verge]

U got time

[sharp talon]

😂

[pine verge]

👍

[neat valley]

i didnt realize u need to hit 100k to actually que higher cordon

[pine verge]

101400

Aint happening for me

[neat valley]

i stopped at 7 last wipe and this one i got to the round where i need that light lvl

[sharp talon]

my jaren isnt even that high wtf

[pine verge]

5* arts will drive me insane

[sharp talon]

i alread yhave tier 10 every stat

101310

[neat valley]

its adept weapons maxed and 5 stars

[twilit thistle]

POV, last night in the q

[neat valley]

and enamre system to give the light boost

[pine verge]

O i was wrong

So ur good rawr

[neat valley]

100k for 4 different characters for cordon is actually a grind

[pine verge]

Im at like 99800

[twilit thistle]

And half the time u cant switch

[sharp talon]

idk atp just use premade and let them carry you for stars 🤣

[pine verge]

I am not touching 5* arts after getting manhandled by point transfer not working

[twilit thistle]

Even if they are the correct power

[sharp talon]

whats not working?

[pine verge]

Plus im put of occultation balls

So im cooked next week

[sharp talon]

it will refresh in the shop next week

idk how much

[signal spade]

im about to give up on the undaunted spiral and just use the upgrade next week on my last one

[pine verge]

Transferring refactor ate my refactors 3 times

I am now traumatized

[sharp talon]

same 😭 😭

[cursive depot]

Why?

[signal spade]

transferring refactor doesnt work if the piece youre using has higher base stats

i found that out the hard way

[twilit thistle]

It doesn’t apply the emnare properly so if you q in a lobby with 3 helhests ur cooked

[pine verge]

I literally thought the same

So I made sure it was lower, and it ate it again. Surely it wont happen a third time.(it did) Now i aint doing it again

4* it is

[cursive depot]

ahhh

[pine verge]

I can clear 100k with emanare eventually and just leave it at that

[neat valley]

for the star tiers

[cursive depot]

think this happened to me and I was so confused since I wasnt paying attention

[sharp talon]

just get a premade to carry you 🙈

[cursive depot]

I was able to due stage 10 last week at 97k

or do you mean to que with bots and stuff

[pine verge]

👀

[twilit thistle]

Wait till the last day and the cracked expanse addicts will carry u

[pine verge]

I gotta outdps ARTo though

My ego cant handle being gapped by him

i must advance the cloudstrike agenda

[sharp talon]

Lmao

[neat valley]

no squad on stage 6. no problem lol

i think 7-8 might be my max to do with bots alone

[jagged osprey]

Cloudstrike 🥰

[neat valley]

the bots at least broke the spread for me

that was nice, better than a real player

[weary mist]

Hey guys I'm running into a major issue with progression. I only started recently. The game wants me to do the Fulminator strike for chapter 1-2, the choice of Ikora Rey. But the strike requires 17140 power. I'm at like 14450. I have no means to get any better weapons at this point. It wants me to have better weapons. So I'm progression locked. Any ideas what I can do? Should I just play the strike under-powered?

[jagged osprey]

You can play the strike underleveled. Shouldn’t be too hard tbh

[weary mist]

Alright I'll give it a shot.

[signal spade]

hm

[neat valley]

whys he using izi lmao

[signal spade]

who knows

dude was respawning more than playing

[neat valley]

you did your charity work for the day

teamwork makes the dreamwork 🤝 @signal spade

[signal spade]

truth

idk if its truth but ikoras guns feel so bad

i kinda wanna start building wardcliff

[neat valley]

bots dont do anything good but revive

[signal spade]

need the c6 attal bot

[neat valley]

do whatever you gotta do, i love ikora players

i dont have her built at all

[signal spade]

yea when youre not glitching out her beam it feels like shes like sad

[oak kettle]

They revive and they don’t die, but that’s about it yeah

Also dunno if it’s just the rapid fire bots but they really dislike targeting shinkas

[twilit thistle]

👀 @indigo solar esplain this pls

[neat valley]

on my solo run the ikora bot, popped the spread really well

[twilit thistle]

Oop

[neat valley]

maybe it was just luck]

[twilit thistle]

didnt mean to reply to u.

[oak kettle]

They just refuse to do the one thing they’re there for unless the shinka is the last enemy standing

Had to clear out the entire cap plate room by myself on rapid impact last cycle before they finally started working on the servitors

[twilit thistle]

Still, this is like the 20th ive gotten. Idk if its on first clear, or just every time its a high chance tho

[neat valley]

thats exactly what it is

they can get distracted on other ads

the ai in this game is one of the worst ive seen

[twilit thistle]

One day itll drop horrors metabolism and let me get the adept version. I don't even want the god roll i want the frat roll 💀 game prolly cant figure out what its doing wrong

[indigo solar]

Haven't played many games have you

[twilit thistle]

👀

[indigo solar]

In general they're actually pretty helpful

They don't run into the middle of the map to die, they play objectives, they have decent aim

[hidden carbon]

Fr half the time the bots have better aim than real players lol

[neat valley]

not with trash ai

even games from the early 2000s have better ai

[oak kettle]

It’s such a simple fix too - make the bots prioritise a target that you ping mark

[neat valley]

they only do very simple things and like #1 helhest said, you cant even order them around to focus on anything

[oak kettle]

No need to even improve their intelligence - just make them follow basic instructions

[neat valley]

the ping system is already in the game too

[restive finch]

HOW?!😰😰

[neat valley]

he just need wardcliff

[hollow gazelle]

Just give bots the ai of estellas summons

It already exists

[rain plinth]

The only bot that's even remotely helpful in Cordon is Ikora ngl

And even then, if you already have another player running Spread, she becomes redundant

[lone lion]

These 5☆ artifacts are damn rare

[twilit thistle]

False information.

[lone lion]

Yep Cordon for you. Nothing good🤣

[thorny frost]

If Netease is listening to this, just have the bots actually help with Shinkas. We will figure out the damage XD.

[rain plinth]

This please, make Finnala actually use her damn sword on Impact Shinkas

[lone lion]

For real bro. L

[rain plinth]

Makes no sense why the bots use their heavies in Shifting Gates on us, but won't use them on Shinkas >:(

[empty kettle]

RELEASE THE 🐝 🐝 🐝 NETEASE!!!

[lone lion]

Which artifacts you use on Jaren?

[unreal jacinth]

Hey I'm trying to get back into the game. But I'm having problems

i try to play on MuMu but after the game loads in it says there's a graphics rendering error

[storm scroll]

Real lol

[neat valley]

I don’t know if they fixed it yet but people were having problems playing on the current amd drivers

The driver update could be affecting your game

[unreal jacinth]

I just saw a post recommending to downgrade the driver. So its probably that

[neat valley]

Yessir

[unreal jacinth]

Thats annoying. But so be it

[twilit thistle]

🤔

[barren heart]

what did they change ab gwynn

[twilit thistle]

I mean it certainly works with the overclocking things. Just not the 3 reward ones.

And i have seen it not produce this if i rerun the same ones.

reroll dice for weapons when

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar ngl i think i found a purpouse for upright tenacity

tankmeko

[neon pebble]

Not much
#maintenance-notice message

Patch notes in there

[barren heart]

i saw that but what are the improvements

do they specify somewhere

[neon pebble]

Yes in patch notes at bottom of that link

[barren heart]

nvm i see that im blind

thank you

[river vigil]

ngl I couldnt tell I had an ikora bot :T

and I have to do this 2 more times on 6 then 8 if no ones in queue

[twilit thistle]

@visual rain Believe it or not but this is actually bis for umeko, in chaos. For weapons master.

[visual rain]

I mean it's chaos you can use anything

[twilit thistle]

i kept dying lol bc i cant use abilites

[rotund flame]

your bots are carrying you with all the work they are putting in smh

[river vigil]

I dont think I'm going to attempt 9 or 10 with 2 bots, they dont do anything

actually correction, they get that high team score percentage

whatever that is

[visual rain]

I avoid weapons master cus of that

Not the dying part but no abilities, I feel so slow

[twilit thistle]

its essentailly needed for the adept version. also just use shadow step

[visual rain]

Nah if I'm doing adept I'm doing spike shell now that my power is high enough

[twilit thistle]

I have videos of the actual lwk flights i would take with this.

[sullen depot]

this aint rly necessary when u already just ning for spike shell though

[twilit thistle]

I mean do u want to have fun

[sullen depot]

i wanna farm quickly. i rather take damaging gifts instead of speed when ning already got the speed

[twilit thistle]

Imagine if we had the frat movement speed boost last season 💀

[shut geyser]

Yo whyd I get kicked from fug and trap

[sullen depot]

there is an invisible terrain wall there actually which is why u dont go over

[west violet]

What you guys can recommend for Gwynn artifacts?

[twilit thistle]

Actually sometimes u get into the point of too much dmg tho watch out for that. And ik iwas just showing how far i went. (way too much speed, i had two stacked for it). I wish i could just use the meta but I have to find the most efficent for all variants, and char. Even finalla.

I almost wish theyd nerf spike shell tho so they fine tune adept for the other characters. Or just remove minotaur and the knight from the pool, cuz when i get those two first i cry a little

[sullen depot]

nah they just gotta bring the other gifts up to standard. im sure they have stats to realize pple really only farm when they see spike shell or born equal. they just gotta buff the other ones

[twilit thistle]

yea this is just messed up. Everything in here used to be 1 shot, and its not like im not trying. Feels just as cursed as legndary campaigns.

[visual rain]

still not enough to make up for no dash

youre telling me i have to WALK everywhere? nuh uh

[twilit thistle]

yea not in adept. That one is cooked for weapons master, its pretty much unplayable.

[heavy jewel]

would like it if they upped the selection to 3 core buffs instead of 2, that way you'd see more usable buffs instead of weapons master + magic minded, hate both of em

works as a bandaid solution until they buff everything else to be at or around spike shell's level

[visual rain]

magic minded is so buns

[heavy jewel]

its only really good for like estella probs

[visual rain]

it works for like 0.75 characters

[heavy jewel]

yeah

[sullen depot]

weapons master used to be goated on Wolf cuz u can still use super grenades and u just cleaned rooms asap since ads were easy to kill

[visual rain]

but if ur farming chaos on estela u have issues

[heavy jewel]

even then furies does a noticable amount of dps that then turns to doodoo with the buff

[heavy jewel]

that sounds sick, i assume they nerfed it

[twilit thistle]

Made one for estela yesterday actually

[dusty spire]

Gwynn worth pulling?

[heavy jewel]

honestly? not really no, unless your only impact character is xuan wei

i say this with a t2

[sullen depot]

yeah they kinda made it that wolf cant switch grenade mode after a stage is cleared before entering next stage

[twilit thistle]

"So i gave the summons rocket launchers"

[heavy jewel]

ahh right that dumb change to expanse f'd him over in EVERY expanse mode

[dusty spire]

Waiting on the next limited banner

No fomo yet

[visual rain]

those 4 poor wolf mains :(

[heavy jewel]

zamn

[naive ingot]

Watch it be a warlock

[heavy jewel]

felwinter fr fr

[dusty spire]

I’ve decided I’ll pull for warlocks too

[naive ingot]

Finally!!!

[dusty spire]

Since I’ve been convinced by warlock players they are 2nd best lol

No pun lol

[twilit thistle]

Thats nothin. 433 pulls

[heavy jewel]

i really enjoy playing wolf, even until now, but man does using his GL feel bad with the reload sometimes bricking inputs

[twilit thistle]

Game is so expensive these days 😭

[sullen depot]

thts guaranteed T6

[dusty spire]

Trust if I could send it to someone it’s definitely something lol

[bitter estuary]

my guy its a GACHA game

oop wrong reply balls

@twilit thistle balls

[twilit thistle]

ik. Im just saying now its value is so much lower. U know what i mean?

[heavy jewel]

78250 / 160 = 490 pulls no? that's enough for 7 characters at full pity

[bitter estuary]

its a gacha game balls

[cursive depot]

just dont spend, light work

[bitter estuary]

180*

[bitter estuary]

base copies are free anyways

[twilit thistle]

with our options being pink boat, or blue boat

[visual rain]

true i paid like $60 when the game came out and nothing since

[heavy jewel]

ah, fair, i forgor (at least its still enough for 7 characters wew)

[twilit thistle]

Im rlly just mad about this tho ngl appologies if i was a lil toxic

[heavy jewel]

real, im out of the exotic cell for 80 -> 90 weps

[sullen depot]

i wonder if theese will be part of the rewardsin prestige strikes and stuff come phase 5. will have to see

[signal spade]

damb

[sullen depot]

at this point the only choice left here is glimmer lol

[twilit thistle]

wish we could buy them with lumia. Same with the shards. the only things u can use it for is levels for the battle pass, and boats. 😭

[heavy jewel]

agg curve is really fun, wish more kill perks got similar upgrades

[signal spade]

yea its a cool idea

[twilit thistle]

Clusters first for the emanare next week which should want 16 if i counted that right

[visual rain]

how have they STILL not fixed this

elivagar LB been broken since it came out

[sullen depot]

im all good there

[twilit thistle]

yea they been acting like a skeleton crew again lately 😭 .

[twilit thistle]

I wish i could refund some of the char I upgraded using those and never use. Thats my issue i always want to upgrade them for @indigo solar who litterally never makes use of it.

[sullen depot]

haha yup. i made sure i only upgraded pple i actually played and didnt really care about acclaim when we had it. I think i only reached back 68 acclaim level or something

[rain plinth]

Gib pls

Just enough for my Ning Fei

[sullen depot]

this store still being useless till this day

[storm mural]

Looking for destiny rising gf be 20+ UwU

[robust sequoia]

Aside from glimmer, I don’t understand why you’d buy them…???

[heavy jewel]

store's less than useless if you dont have any coins saved up, its unusable lmao, no source of coins after the changes

[sullen depot]

they added coins back in choas farming

[heavy jewel]

did they? havent done chaos runs since the maint yesterday, good to know

[sullen depot]

yup

so they should have plans for the store......rightttt.......

[heavy jewel]

neat, just wish they added it back a bit sooner, since i grinded a bit for artifactual essence

better late than never ig

[charred sail]

Why not the essence? Ive been out all the time this update lol

[polar bolt]

Y’all got Gwynn yet ?

[charred sail]

Yeah why did they remove the coins? It was only 100k glimmer a week lol

[charred sail]

Ive had gwynn for 6 months

[sullen depot]

essense becomes rlly easy to stack once u stack farming for char

[neat valley]

jesus

[charred sail]

Dang. I got my estella artfivats and maxed them right as I got enough essense so im out again...

[neat valley]

you dont need anymore bro lmfao

[thorny frost]

The coins were only added back on as they were needed for unlocking the bonuses for chaos XD

[sullen depot]

attribute/point transfer system makes essence not as necesaary the longer things go as u farm. then again i am only building 4 char right now as well so if i built more would have been less too

[twilit thistle]

yea we are gonna have to send you to the glimmer mines.

[heavy jewel]

wtf i didnt know gems could roll the same bonus twice

also i hate this bonus, i dont play kabr, and idk if it even affects maru

[twilit thistle]

My routine is to go and patrol jangshi and collect all the resources

[thorny frost]

Hey that is the only double bonus I have rolled too

[twilit thistle]

til i hit the cap

[signal spade]

shifting gates is bis for glimmer now

[heavy jewel]

rip

[signal spade]

just afk and let the bots finisht he match for you

[twilit thistle]

Its never enough

[signal spade]

time -> glimmer it has to be fastest

[signal spade]

rip

[twilit thistle]

jangshi pretty fast tho if u know where the resources are at. Ice field is the best imo

[signal spade]

at that point you might as well just actively do frontlines

its like 3-6k per event so you wind up with like 20k per frontlines i think

[thorny obsidian]

60K glimmer per heroic public. for a max of 7 publics a day, after that its 10K

[twilit thistle]

about 10 mins to get all of them tbh. U hit the cap and u can no longer collect any more which is sad tho

[digital briar]

is there a way to get past draws

like jaren

[sullen depot]

wait for reruns

or u can claim then first time with condensate

[digital briar]

condensate?

[sullen depot]

u get 40 condenates and u can unlock a character u dont own or use for ascension after that

melee damage resistance or healing bonus on jaren? or pref to have 1 per slot

[twilit thistle]

Yea this is why i never use my keys ngl i let them overflow still 😂

[karmic chasm]

I love this spot

Been trying to catch the biggest shark

[indigo solar]

Heroics are still faster, assuming you get 140k per gates match (lv5 rewards) it's about 10k/min, heroic events are 20-30k/min

[twilit thistle]

IS there a cap on this or did i get the chest cap and get confused

[twilit thistle]

The next shot it said daily gathering limit reached

[candid phoenix]

Sidearm awoken 🤔

[sullen depot]

yeah there is a daily gathering limit for overworld

[sullen depot]

nooo shot the next char is actually gonna end up being void impact lol. Gwynn banner is so bait

im gonna assume they are pullin a jaren were his exotic was LW but he ended up being impact. so still hopes next is rapid fire with heavy

[signal spade]

prob sidearm heavy gl if i had to guess

just based off leak abilities

[candid phoenix]

This aint no damn reputation rank reward

[sullen depot]

oh i got a juicerr

[signal spade]

does that confirmed work on her

[sullen depot]

not sure but im using this on kabr2.0. laser spam and then have 16s of 30% damage increase

[dusty spire]

I agree we need more from the lumi shop

Even if it’s weekly or monthly items

Only problem from a Rev standpoint it would really kill em lol

It would be a really generous F2P

I want more accessories scatter around the game

[signal spade]

how do you get to the sidearm images

[dusty spire]

Rather than have event based items put some rare collectibles around

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar @vast arch yall ready for void spread 3 💀

[twilit thistle]

See the red box?

[vital sentinel]

artifact grinding in this game is cheeks

[dusty spire]

lol you think we getting another spread?

[dusty spire]

Pros it’s easier to get what you want

Cons you have to actually play lol

[signal spade]

oh its drill icon with actual sidearm inside

[twilit thistle]

I am going to guess, that they built this using assets from maru. And that is what caused this error.

[signal spade]

so its bp sidearm thats kinda cool

[twilit thistle]

CTRL+C, CTRL+V

[signal spade]

they probably just copy pasted icons as placeholder and didnt rly care

[vital sentinel]

There is no pros to this system and no i dont care how the system used to before

[signal spade]

prob shouldnt be visible here yet but it happens

[vast arch]

What is Manifesto

[signal spade]

prob the battle pass weapon sidearm

[twilit thistle]

bp weapon

[signal spade]

well more than likely guaranteed to be the battle pass weapon sidearm

[vast arch]

Only BP weapons get 3 ornaments like that, right?

[sullen depot]

yup

[twilit thistle]

Im assuming its the issue, its not gonna be a maru clone. It makes sense tho that they would borrow the other spread char in the game files, and build the new one using that as a starting point.

[signal spade]

at least all at once

i mean the skill description heavily hints at the character using gls since its literally The Colony but as a character ability

sidearm gl sounds kinda hype though

concerto buff on a heavy gl would actually kinda work well

dont need to waste a perk on ALH

[sullen depot]

crazy if they repeat void spread (heavy) again tho. then again they repeated arc precision as well

apart frm inverted fury whats another great general 3rd slot artifact to farm?

[candid phoenix]

What if it's a sword

[twilit thistle]

@cyan tide ur gonna want to dust off gallows.

[karmic chasm]

I’m waiting for Titanfall Rising

Where we have to pull 6 copies of Legion to get a second power shot

🥀

[signal spade]

you say repeated but im pretty sure kabr and ikora from their perspective were always going to be perma banner and we just got them as beta test characters

since china wound up with like maru and jaren late

but id be surprised if a character based on explosions and void detonators/colony grenades isnt using a heavy gl

[sullen depot]

u talking about the beekeeper nectar char leak?

[signal spade]

yer

[twilit thistle]

Omg look at emotes

[sullen depot]

i doubt its GL cuz of this though. Rapid makes the most sense: ||Avid Whispers: Continuously using gun attacks on objectives with Avid Whispers will generate 1 small Void insect ||

[signal spade]

we're not EOS guys we got at least 9 months

[thorny frost]

Yea I was going to say the kit didn’t really align with single shot/slow weapons

[vast arch]

You we got plans to S6A2 let's go!

[karmic chasm]

I think the reason it was Kabr and Ikora is because they didn’t even plan to have major/important lore characters from Destiny be only legendary

[spice crescent]

Hi

[karmic chasm]

I wanna go play Jaren for no reason

I’m waiting for his re run to build him more

[signal spade]

well either way i think them being perma banner breaks some rules

in terms of cadence and how they dropped stuff

that whole season was extra long and ikoras banner lasted like 8 or 9 weeks now

[twilit thistle]

🤔

[signal spade]

2 of those im pretty sure are d2 copy pastes

and christmas existing confirmed

[thorny frost]

2 new sparrows it looks like too

[signal spade]

looks like the rat king sparrow

[sullen depot]

damn why necrobeast slow

[signal spade]

thatd be funny if that bp sidearm is just a buffed rat king

[sullen depot]

the current BP weapon is basically just malfeasance so its possible. they do be switching things around

[rotund flame]

Wonder what the next character weapons are? Sidearms / lmgs?

Hope it's not sidearms / sword. That would feel so wonky lol

[twilit thistle]

🤔

[signal spade]

gourd summoner already exists doesnt it or it does in d2 for sure

[thorny frost]

So did frog dance I believe

[twilit thistle]

🤔

I think thats all. I did a 2nd round of checking everything.

[karmic chasm]

Yea that was crazy

I got her exactly once unfortunately. Meanwhile I finished Kabr’s talents lol

[karmic chasm]

Could be the massive resin skull

[twilit thistle]

Ok so its not 100%. Its 99.99%

[indigo solar]

Kabr and Ikora were to sync the servers' character releases

They're event chars, the event ran side by side with main chars on China and we didn't have main chars at the time

[pure narwhal]

Can i upgrade an artifact level from 80 to 90?

[cyan tide]

No

[bitter estuary]

no

[twilit thistle]

No, but dont freak out.

[bitter estuary]

balls

[signal spade]

yea i know im sayin next char bein void is like less crazy if you dont view them as normal

or void with a gl rather

[twilit thistle]

You only have to get 3 out of the 4 of the rolls on the new artifact to transfer it over. 100% chance of success.

Given the boosted drop rates this is easy

[crimson shadow]

Does anyone here play destiny rising on console thru emulator

[pure narwhal]

So basically refarm the artifact at lvl90 and transfer old attributes?

[twilit thistle]

It sounds bad at first, but once u get going its faster. Just dont do adept starting off. Artifacts are intimidating at first, but once you get the hang of it youll like it.

[pure narwhal]

Thanks Lucy 🫶🏻

[rain plinth]

Unless it's Spike Shell, then run adept and punch everything with max Boxer :3

At least, that's what I do

[rain plinth]

RNGesus I beseech thee, grant me my last Gallows and my drops are yours

[stark hound]

is there an lfg for this game?

[twilit thistle]

New cordon meta is to just reject then kick the player u dont want out of the fireteam.

[lone lion]

These look so cool bro.

[twilit thistle]

Repeatedly.

[lone lion]

Lol damn

[signal spade]

the estela only with no thunderlord in the void arc piercing impact side was very poggers

just left

[lone lion]

I want to try out the thunderlord bro tbh

[thorny frost]

You didn’t want to carry those players anyways…. The ones most strict probably blame others for failures

[lone lion]

5 star artifacts are rare damn

[solar narwhal]

who got a good gwynn build

[rain plinth]

I finally got a 5* for an artifact that I was looking for

[worn lotus]

Does anyone know if melee gets buffed my ability damage

[tight talon]

They are making another Void Impact?

[twilit thistle]

Scroll up

[tight talon]

[tight talon]

So it's so worse, that's it not even Void Spread or Void Precision

It's back to Void Impact

[signal spade]

itll be spread i think

[twilit thistle]

Calamity>Cordon. Took me a cycle to figure that out. I lost all motivation to play. Especially bc I can see we wont actually get any real changes till s7

[signal spade]

itd be shocking if it wasnt sidearm gl

[tight talon]

So Sidearm/RL?

That would be cool

[signal spade]

i think GL

because their abilities are like aoe boom stuff

[tight talon]

HGL?

[signal spade]

yea one of their abilities is pretty much the colony

[tight talon]

This is the 4th time they are adding HGL

/s

[rain plinth]

Finally

[signal spade]

hopefully they add it tbh

[rain plinth]

Got my last Gallows

[signal spade]

unless this char isnt the beekeeper at all which would be surprising

[neon pebble]

Why do these reference Mara Sov and Uldren Sov?

[signal spade]

prob awoken character

or its like retconned petra or something

[neon pebble]

Whats the dmg for 10 seconds on efri/jaren/HH?

[neon pebble]

I will pretend I understood everything you said. Idek who Sov is just heard name on here alot

[bitter estuary]

im glazing til eternal death bc wdym it makes jaren nuke everything (i dont even have a t6 jaren)

kinda wanna use it on atal but idk if del9 is better than eol

[signal spade]

it could be mara as a guardian too thatd be interesting wonder how much money theyd make

[bitter estuary]

@indigo solar is frat better than anni for suffocate below

[signal spade]

lore characters are cooler to play as imo

[rotund flame]

Facts. Hate how they split the already small player base into something smaller. So hard to find games plus I'm not a fan of all the cordon buffs and stuff

[signal spade]

this thing hits like a truck though prob good on attal for sure

[exotic sinew]

So void beekeeper isnt* a 4*, rapid fire is dead, Toland and Bad Juju is never coming, I should shoot my foot

[signal spade]

bad jujus a myth it was never real we imagined it

[exotic sinew]

IT WAS IN THE BETA

[signal spade]

i know i used it it was free

[exotic sinew]

RELEASE IT NETGREED

[signal spade]

we didnt even have to swipe for it

itll prob come with the estela rerun in a month tbh

[candid phoenix]

hey what if the new char gets a machine gun

[exotic sinew]

Did you have to swipe for anything in the beta?

[exotic sinew]

Likely will but damn I just wanted Toland

The way I imagined it was 5* Toland comes out using Pulse and LMH and then alongside him they release a new 4* unit, the void beekeeper, using dual pistols and LMG

That would’ve been ideal - to me at least

[neon pebble]

We need a 5star debuffer

Pulse and lmh on another mythic would be bad

[bitter estuary]

lowk want this because holy crap its either sacrifice less mini missiles for more lfr dmg (rc/qb) or sacrifice lower dps for more utility and more mini missles (arby) or all in on boss but crap outside of it (eol)

[exotic sinew]

Toland could’ve been it. Debuffs on rapid shots or something and those shots can ricochet everywhere

[neon pebble]

Estella uses those

[bitter estuary]

this is really general use

[exotic sinew]

Crossbow then, not like they’ll release Trace rifles even though the sight options are available for it in game

Pulse and Sword would be kind of cool but that would make him impact

Wouldn’t mind it, though

Just too similar to Jolder

[twilit thistle]

It made the already gatekept knowledge and fomo that calamity had somehow even worse.

[obtuse chasm]

In all honesty the end game is pretty trash rn, I’d prefer raids over cordon

[keen oasis]

We need a solar hammer titan with a big hammer or big axe like saladin

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-aura-piccolo-aura-aura-farming-aura-farm-gif-4796219510675252498

[obtuse chasm]

Nah we need more hunters

Titans can stick to chewing on their crayons

[rotund flame]

Starting to feel like gwenn is bait. They want us to pull so we don't have enough for the next impact character trust

[obtuse chasm]

I think it’s just a rerun bro 😭 most people won’t be pulling gwynn

And to the sad souls who do, pray for them

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar lmk when u want to push further into the wiki, idk if I can take any more of this game right now. First day I’ve ever gotten so mad I want to just go do something else this season.

[rotund flame]

You would be surprised how many people pull for the goth chick. Seen a couple of them in haven lol

[obtuse chasm]

Because people are saying she’s actually good now 😔 the bait is mostly coming from players in casual lol

[lone drum]

Hey, random question. If I didn't participate in Great Hunt. am I locked out of the Phase 3 season rewards? From what I can see/interpreting, 2 of the 4 season categories have missions that are tied to it, and Phase 3 rewards are 100%-ing 3/4 season categories.

[obtuse chasm]

No

[rotund flame]

True, those buffs don't seem like they do enough sadly 😭

[empty kettle]

I've heard about the next void character being impact/spread

[obtuse chasm]

Wrong, it’s precision

Manifesting it so everyone throws a fit

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[limber pine]

Next char is a concerto user

[lone drum]

all we need... another void character with spread

[obtuse chasm]

Ikora is trash tho

Buff ikora

[lone drum]

Ikora only good on T6

I already had T6 Maru so I had no need to get Ikora to t6

[obtuse chasm]

What heresy is this

[lone drum]

Maru > Ikora

crazy take ik

[obtuse chasm]

Maybe she fits your playstyle more but the average player is using ikora better then they would a Maru

[lone drum]

its definitely a playstyle you adapt to

but I had already done that in the alpha.

Ikora at T6 can 100% out DPS T6 Maru though

Maru just has more survivability

no idea why she is considered "offensive" with her big shield

[north chasm]

Dont be sad i havent pulled any characters in months after Gywnn

Shet i havent even played the game your in a better state than me

Im doin bad chat

[lone drum]

you doing ok. we are about to get back into the rotation to get all the characters again.

[tight talon]

ah yes muh prediction over evidence

[random talon]

Okay i need help before i dedicate resources.

[obtuse chasm]

It was a joke bro

Not that deep

[obtuse chasm]

Yes you should invest everything into gwynn

[random talon]

SO on Phase 5 will we be able to upgrade our Lv. 90 T4 into Lv. 90 T5?

[tight talon]

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah don’t do this unless you absolutely need to

Unless you’re pushing high expanse

[random talon]

Okay because I'm getting Lv. 90 T5 Artifacts. And I'm not sure if I should scrap the thousands of Artifact Resources I've already dumped, just to go to the upgrade

[obtuse chasm]

I mean if you have the dupes start rerolling just keep the base one you’re already using

[random talon]

But if next Phase I can upgrade my suped up Lv. 90 T4s into Lv. 90 T5s then I wont do it

[obtuse chasm]

It’s extremely costly and said resource is limited unless your roster is 1-2 characters I don’t recommend it

[random talon]

I wish they'd just make an infusion system where you can upgrade your T4 star tiered Artifacts and Weapons with the T5 star tiers you get later

[storm mural]

https://tenor.com/view/funee-monkee-gif-jif-funee-monkee-jif-gif-18386517

[obtuse chasm]

That’s extremely wishful thinking I doubt they’ll ever implement it

[storm mural]

still waiting for them to make battle pass weapons more accessible

[obtuse chasm]

I was talking a buddy about a synthesis option tho for the tons of useless arts we have

[random talon]

"Yes dump over 2k Artifactual Essence into your build then scrap it because you finally found the super rare Lv. 90 T5s"

[obtuse chasm]

Gunna be waiting awhile

[storm mural]

lmao

[neon pebble]

Whats the dmg for 10 seconds on efri/jaren/HH?

[obtuse chasm]

Do you understand the new system?

[tight talon]

No clue. I tried it on Efrideet and found no change

[obtuse chasm]

You can transfer reforges

All godrolls with little investment

[tight talon]

I mean you can transfer your base attribute to another artifact. So a maxxed piece can increase score of another bis piece

[random talon]

I'm still confused then

[storm mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788152037148852289/1430313215623041044/G0cpEtaWkAAa2hK.gif

[random talon]

Because I only thought the two reforge options were to transfer the godroll stats, and then the attribute score only

I didnt know they also carry over the upgrade spam you do

[obtuse chasm]

So only real investment that’s needed is rerolling

[golden spade]

I must totally not understand the transfer system for me not being able to transfer the attributes well

[oak kettle]

Is that an option if you put an upgraded artifact into a lesser one in the base stat transfer section?

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah it pops up once you confirm the option

[neon pebble]

Bellicose Veil is interesting on Gwynn. It boost each void orb also not just the sig ability

[twilit thistle]

All day of that cordon nonsense, not 1 Gwynn spotted

[neon pebble]

Yeah because I dont play cordon

[obtuse chasm]

@oak kettle @random talon

[twilit thistle]

Bc of the lack of a buff, I’m sticking it’s my t6 @naive ingot , and boycotting getting her t6.

Also partially bc of the removal of rapid fire cordon which killed 1/4 of the community. Including @cyan tide (I noticed). But also bc the buff was bad.

[cyan tide]

I didn't even do stage 10 last cycle with Estela, I'm washed

[twilit thistle]

I didn’t even get to 9 iirc. I hate this timed content 😭

[sullen depot]

its a 21 day cycle. thats a lot of time

[twilit thistle]

At least the new strikes, ppl would make mistakes. You get no mercy on the old strikes

[cyan tide]

You couldn't even reach the minimum power recommended power until this week

[sullen depot]

i mean true thats fair but thats similar to when the game first launched with calamity ops

first calamity was slow as well

[cyan tide]

Was calamity even available early on? Didn't it unlock at team level 80?

[sullen depot]

i cant recall fully but i know that it took until like the 2nd calamity before pple finally got the hang of the power and all after haven lvled up first

[cyan tide]

Fair enough, I just think that timegating 5 star gear until the last week was unnecessary. They only gave people 3 days to be stage 10 ready

I don't even think it's possible to reach the minimum power required to matchmake without 5 star gear

I have Efrideet with everything maxed, adept weapon, maxed cloudstrike, maxed emanare with mostly exotic gems and I'm still like 1k below the recommended because all my gear is 4 star

[sullen depot]

honestly its more from emanare.the boost from emanare is underrated when pple dont realize how much power it gives. went from 3.6k and now at 10.8k

then another big jump on monday again

[twilit thistle]

Estela could, she just happens to have extremely close to 45’s on all artifacts.

[sullen depot]

but yeah def need 1 or 2 5 star gears

[twilit thistle]

I didn’t like the limits of upgrading them tbh, I have as much love for that as I do 5 star weapons. It’s way too expensive, and if u make a mistake ur cooked

I don’t even think I could afford to upgrade them tbh so I’d have to do it all over again

[cyan tide]

Yeah, the economy needs to be looked at. Especially if they really plan to introduce lvl 100 next season

[twilit thistle]

95*

[sullen depot]

thats a speculation.

no one knows what will happen next season

[twilit thistle]

Adept occulation essence

[sullen depot]

the only confirmed reset is emanare. no use speculating on anything else untilthey confirm

[twilit thistle]

I need to start mathing some of this stuff out. I wonder how long and how much it would cost to upgrade everything

[obtuse chasm]

Someone put me on with the method for 73 piercing expanse I’m beating my head against a wall

[sullen depot]

JUST WIN

[neon pebble]

If its like past seasons, only emanares and the seasonal weapon lvl ups from GM keys reset

All the resources in inventory reset also end of season. No reason to hoard.

[sullen depot]

ur gonna end up spending those resources anyways whether it be this season or next. and also who knows if they are gonna do the same thing as last time were resources also get reset. u never know

no point in hoarding cuz they def dont want hoarding from how things are going

[obtuse chasm]

Umm idk if this is confirmed

[sullen depot]

we dont know... they did a resource reset from s3 to s4. anything can happen. they could do the same but will haveto see what they confirm

[obtuse chasm]

I doubt it tho

[neon pebble]

They did...
#1485935503223296000 message

[twilit thistle]

🤷🏼‍♀️ they have no mercy

[neon pebble]

Yall dont read

[obtuse chasm]

I feel like the reset was mainly just because this is a whole new game in most aspects now, but again we don’t know for a fact

[sullen depot]

oh nvm yeah looks like it was confirmed. but tbh i dont trust netease on old patch notes in case they change their mind based on feedback

so until they confirm again and double down on it i wait

[obtuse chasm]

I don’t see that being a positive thing for them, sometimes I genuinely question what netease is thinking

[sullen depot]

i mean why hoard mats?what u hoarding them for? until the end of time lol

[obtuse chasm]

Tbf you don’t really need to hoard

[north phoenix]

Resetting the resources only makes us have ton of exotics we can't level up

[barren phoenix]

How are people getting thier character so strong up to 99k?? I’m at 87k and on the cordon doing 10% while Mr 99k does like 80% damage

[north phoenix]

Especially since they reset all of what's needed for me to craft Database Lattice

[obtuse chasm]

How are yall so hard stuck on 87k is the real question

[obtuse chasm]

If you’re spending an entire season maxing one exotic you need to look into some other methods

[barren phoenix]

No clue… maybe I’m just bad at this game 😓

[sullen depot]

contextual data set never got reset, i think ur mixing up

[obtuse chasm]

I maxed 5 exotics in the past 2 weeks

[north phoenix]

Those I had about a thousand until Monday's reset

I emailed netease to return them back to me, no response

[twilit thistle]

I had 5k pinnacle reserved I blew right before it bc I didn’t agree with what they were doing. Still glad I did that.

[obtuse chasm]

Mondays reset? Brother what?

[barren phoenix]

No way! Where do you get all the cores? I only get like 3 every round in leggy cam

[sullen depot]

u sure u didnt spend em? nothing has happened to mine and i have bared done any LCfarmng since season started. a weird bug happened to u it seems

[obtuse chasm]

Shifting

[north phoenix]

No

[empty kettle]

I think he's confused

[sullen depot]

ah rip! ur account bugged up

[north phoenix]

I would know

[neon pebble]

"We dont have any confirmation" to "You have official word and confirmation but its not confirmed again" 💀 bruh what?

[barren phoenix]

Im struggling to get materials… where are you farming the exotic cores for your exotic guns? I’m f2p btw

[sullen depot]

did you not hear me say "nvm they already confirmed" but im waiting on them to double down on it

[obtuse chasm]

Shifting both anomalies each run

[sullen depot]

a game dev can always change their mind based on feedback

[north phoenix]

What's crazy is how is any new light bearers joining in gonna level up any exotics lol. Gonna take them until next year to level up all of em.

[empty kettle]

Why the hell would you level all of them?

[obtuse chasm]

This makes 0 sense seeing as they reset everyone from scratch basically

[sullen depot]

that i agree. the LC grind needs to be fixed

[north phoenix]

Because at the end of the day it's a game, and this game isn't gonna last forever

[sullen depot]

having to wait till adept 3 to get 3-4 cores and then also being a tedious run is not good