💭│main-chat

[jagged osprey]

I noticed that yeah. They need to patch it to do it every 3 hits like d2

[obtuse chasm]

I’m hoping they fix all of them so my efforts maxing them doesn’t go to waste

Damn resources getting harder and harder to get for exotics

[jagged osprey]

Also Thunderlord still doesn’t work properly on Estella. Granted I used it a week ago

[obtuse chasm]

I’d still use furies over thunderlord tbh

But may be situational

[worn trench]

What’s better to run as perk alongside Time Marches On, Fire Rush or Beast Trap???

[sullen depot]

Server is out

[obtuse chasm]

Ty

[remote grove]

At least i dont needa max another estella weapon, already have furies, heir, gallows on her 😆

[golden spade]

Heir apparent is the best for me. Gives you sheild and loads from reserves

[remote grove]

Idek if im planning on maxing any of the new raid weapons tbh

[merry crag]

correct

[bitter estuary]

servers on wow

iron pledge sucks reward wise

barely any overclocked capacitors

[sharp talon]

piercing and impact diffusion is awsome

[merry crag]

gwynn time

[sharp talon]

diffusion: the pit
containment: nexus

[celest violet]

thought the Great Hunt quests were supposed to be fixed for those cleared..?

[modest tiger]

Iron pledge is goated holy w rewards

[sullen depot]

lmao @obtuse chasm

[worn trench]

?

[inner sinew]

tried using the new smg with fire rush/time marches on, thought it kinda sucked just in moment to moment gameplay, not sure how it performs as far as actual numbers go

[lapis scroll]

EOS because no Gwynn swimsuit

😢

[cobalt beacon]

no gwynn swimsuit????

[obtuse chasm]

Damn servitor skill lock 😭 queue 9 bruh

[sullen depot]

they do not test their game. u just gotta start an LC and leave and it counts

[fresh moat]

Super tech

[inner sinew]

you did technically participate, it doesn't say complete 🤓

[cobalt beacon]

@fresh moat

they lied gwynn still picks up her spirits

[fresh moat]

No way she’s still wasting them

[cobalt beacon]

she is lmaooo

[fresh moat]

Eos soon 🥲

[worn trench]

Idk, I’m asking kinda for Auto Rifles

So far it’s like nice but i never tried it on a more stationary boss so I can’t really tell if it’s exceptional

[cobalt beacon]

@fresh moat good character btw!!

biggest rugpull!!

[fresh moat]

Lmfao no way. I hope she blew them up on damage

[cobalt beacon]

@vast arch these your mans!!

[fresh moat]

HUGE COPIUM

[cobalt beacon]

did old gwynn not get the update?

do i need to re t6

[inner sinew]

both cordons require piercing shinkas now lol

[sharp talon]

no rapid fire wth

[west violet]

They need to push Efri lol

[cyan tide]

Time to build Helhest I guess, what are the other shinka types?

Is it the same for both sides or piercing/spread and piercing/impact?

[sharp talon]

second one

[west violet]

HH Banner re run when? 🤡😆

[cyan tide]

Guess I got that covered then

[bitter estuary]

s5

each banner is like 42d

i assume in 84d

[pine verge]

Gwynn feels a lil less clunky now. Still pretty bad though

[dusty spire]

41 days on the Gwynn

I like it

[bitter estuary]

??? i need to see it

its much better than before lol

[dusty spire]

New hero and re run is sweet mix

[west violet]

Got it. Thanks mate 🍻

[dusty spire]

By description is sounds like she’s had a serious upgrade lol

[cobalt beacon]

nothing was changed😭

gwynn would be so much better without this

tbh

[dusty spire]

Ok back to grind

Don’t like it lol

Last grind session for the week and I’m done lol

[bitter estuary]

s2 -> build cadenza stacks -> deplete shotgun -> s1 -> concerto (again, till 4x cadenza) -> shotgun fully reloaded, use up shotgun -> spam s1

since orbs stay on the ground and doesnt go to waste

that being said, the buildup is slow

i cant just dodge and nuke like jaren does

[obtuse chasm]

Titles for cordon bugged now too 😔

[obtuse chasm]

Spent all my tokens and finished the challenges but nothing worth buying

[bitter estuary]

other than exotic gem and refactors, thats it really

[pine verge]

The pickup radius change is noticeable. It heals you when up close and shooting at enemies more easily. Notably when breaking an impact shinka I heal for quite a lot more now

[cobalt beacon]

if only normal gameplay wasnt just a dps setup everytime

[pine verge]

Less clunk than relying on teleport or walking up to the little balls

[bitter estuary]

as i said, building up to the burst is really slow

[cobalt beacon]

the thing is you want to use your teleport even when you dont want to pickup the balls on the floor because of 50% dr

for 4s

[pine verge]

Just press signature first

[cobalt beacon]

no it eats the balls if you have any on the floor

even when your at 6

[pine verge]

I meant her scythe thing

Just use that first. They should fix it but solution for now is to just spend the balls rather than waste them

[cobalt beacon]

do you not see the inherit problem with that yeah you can press q but that will just throw all the balls at one enemy and waste the rest

this update did nothing

[pine verge]

it fixed some of her problems, just not all of them

[bitter estuary]

i didnt notice it 😔

[rotund raptor]

Finally

[bitter estuary]

this crap sucks

[cobalt beacon]

lmfaooo shes garbage

[pine verge]

Dont see why you wouldnt just use the balls and generate more

[bitter estuary]

gg you decided to t6 that instead of gwynn

gwynn buff sucks balls

i assume bugged

[rotund raptor]

Lol

[pine verge]

Yea I agree she needs more buffs fr

[bitter estuary]

so the only thing they did is make orbs not expire

atleast the thing that works

[cobalt beacon]

im guessing its bugged like i said shes better if you dont lvl this

[pine verge]

The pickup change too! That works great surprisingly

[cobalt beacon]

legit if you have never played gwynn dont unlock this

your character will legit be better

[pine verge]

Outside of using her teleport

[cobalt beacon]

tbh that was never an issue

i was right on the enemy eitherway

[pine verge]

It was for me in harder content

[cobalt beacon]

well yeah you have a t0 gwynn!

[pine verge]

Sometimes they spawn outside of her range even when youre on top of them

Which was super annoying, now her pickup radius is big enough to always pick them up if youre close to the enemy

[cobalt beacon]

losing 50% dr without being able to do anything about it is legit trash

[jagged osprey]

I too can also spin to win now

[cobalt beacon]

attal>

[hollow gazelle]

^

[pine verge]

Are you t6?

[cobalt beacon]

yes

shes legit trash id rather play attal

this update did nothing dont give them credit

[pine verge]

well it didnt do "nothing". It just did little lol

[jagged osprey]

What artifacts are even good on Gwynn. Seems like there’s quite a few that could be solid (I just got my T0 copy and that’s it)

[hollow gazelle]

Yeah i was gonna t3 but these "buffs" are only quality of life

[pine verge]

Concerto change about the same. Small improvement

[cobalt beacon]

x

or resolute first slot

[summer ledge]

To her credit, her ascend nodes are worth a lot more than everyone else. From what I have seen, offense characters cap at 20% damage, and Gwynn gets double at max rank with 16% up front at rank 1.

[cobalt beacon]

16% of nothing isnt a lot tho

[pine verge]

Why plasma slot 3? Only debuff is confined right?

[hollow gazelle]

I mean her ascend is good idk if its enough tbh

[cobalt beacon]

yeah what would you run?

[summer ledge]

Never mind. Forgot this was the Destiny community.

[pine verge]

Courageous planet is what I run lol. Less damage but easy uptime

[hollow gazelle]

Imma still rebuild her for fun tho

[cobalt beacon]

you dash into 4 enemies it maxes to 16s this is legit bis

[hollow gazelle]

Maybe get just get t2 for funner movement

[pine verge]

I also dont use nimble veil either cuz I only have one tp

[cobalt beacon]

i just run my jaren stuff on her on first and 2nd

[pine verge]

Not always 4 enemies to blink into though. Just 5% damage lossm courageous is 25% for 10 secs on any ability use

[cobalt beacon]

5% is a lot for gwynn she does 0 in the first place so

take it or leave it

[elder wing]

Wait… you guys are really going all out on Gwynn?

[pine verge]

-30% if you dont have enough enemies to blink into lol

[elder wing]

https://tenor.com/view/goodfellas-laugh-liotta-gif-13856770980338154376

[hollow gazelle]

Probably not lol😭

[cobalt beacon]

ive had her t6 since launch

[cobalt beacon]

whatever you wanna run im just spitting whatever bis is run whatever you want!

[pine verge]

I picked up her t0 after s4 just because I missed her b4

[hollow gazelle]

Ill treat her like a 4 star and build her for fun on the side

[jagged osprey]

Thanks likely. Also does Ikoras T6 still do the wacky 5x damage bug?

[cobalt beacon]

yeah

[pine verge]

Im just yapping too lol dw

[elder wing]

Not you bruh… someone said ohh 41 days ima T6 🤣

[cobalt beacon]

im just being realistic i mean if you like the character and play the game casually be my guest but dont be suprised when 4* outshine her

shes horrible tbh

[pine verge]

Im tempted to get her t1 for fun, but meh probably not worth the effort

[elder wing]

Broooo BIG passsssss

[hollow gazelle]

Tbh ill wait for next char reveal and then decide

[elder wing]

Get that B T0 and move on

[hollow gazelle]

If its a warlock im sorry gwynn

[elder wing]

https://tenor.com/view/really-bruh-blink-blank-face-gif-12917060

[hollow gazelle]

?

[pine verge]

Prolly just gonna save for HH or Jaren

[jagged osprey]

Let’s go. Can’t wait to Spin to win once I get home

[empty kettle]

Pls netease, let it be the beekeeper as the act 2 character

[hollow gazelle]

🙏🙏🙏

Even if theyre a 4 star

[jagged osprey]

Also we can now basically see how Re-runs are gonna work. They are gonna be up for 6 weeks then a new one rotates in

[empty kettle]

I got 60 pulls saved up

[remote grove]

Yeah definitely dont trap your draws on gwynn when theres a new banner coming soon

[hollow gazelle]

Seems so, and im guessing they come back 6 months after

[elder wing]

Finally someone… knows

[jagged osprey]

Helhest is worth the save. She should be here in 12 weeks

[tight talon]

Hell yeah Gwwynie is live. T1 time

[remote grove]

Attal is better

[hollow gazelle]

Real

[remote grove]

[elder wing]

Yaaaaaayyyyyyy

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[hollow gazelle]

Attal supremacy

[jagged osprey]

July 9th for Helhest re-run. Boy that’s a long time away

[elder wing]

Tbh efri more fun and dominates expanse lmao

[hollow gazelle]

Efri is to helhest what gwynn is to jaren

[bitter estuary]

i love efrideet but the dash pmo so i built umeko instead

[obtuse chasm]

Not even close to a valid comparison, but hellhest is still leagues better then efrideet

[bitter estuary]

ill build her regardless, for the sake of the emanare

[jagged osprey]

I have T6 Efrideet. But I’ll be able to save up for t6 Helhest. Never underestimate the Arby cheese

[hollow gazelle]

Says the efrideet main lol

[elder wing]

Lmao what? I don’t see gwyn dominating Leaderboards

[obtuse chasm]

And I’m saying hellhest is better

But Gwynn compared to Jaren is like comparing a gold coin to something you just picked up out of the dumpster

[proper niche]

Im still waiting for explenation about "dinner in a shoe nonsense" 😅

[hollow gazelle]

😭😭😭

[bitter estuary]

no efrideet has no comparisons because her debuffs is only to herself,

umeko is a close one but in gamemodes that require a team umeko just brutally outclasses efrideet

[elder wing]

Brub comparing gwynn to jaren is a joke… we talking about a complete useless character vs a op viable character

[obtuse chasm]

You just reworded exactly what I said

[hollow gazelle]

Yeah gwynn is useless im just saying the gap between jaren and gwynn is comporable to efri and helhest

[obtuse chasm]

It’s not

[pine verge]

Tfw I do more damage than a jaren and efrideet in cordon. Literally how wdf

[vast arch]

chill bro i just woke up

[hollow gazelle]

Not that gwynn is as good as efri

[bitter estuary]

with what

[cobalt beacon]

🫃

[obtuse chasm]

I understand what you’re saying, but that’s not a valid comparison

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[elder wing]

Not even close lmao

[cobalt beacon]

not even close

the gap between jaren and hh is closer than anything else in this game

[obtuse chasm]

Not even close

[pine verge]

Sidearm buff in cordon is pretty funny. Braindead max overshields at all times

[thorny prism]

Hey everyone
Hope everyone have a good day
I have a question:

Is Destiny rising run 120FPS on S24 ultra?

I'm thinking of buying a used S24 Ultra and i don't know how much fps can run, i know the SoC is powerful but some games make high fps exclusive for some phones

[hollow gazelle]

Idk efri isnt even to close to helhest, and gywnn isnt even close jaren

[cobalt beacon]

real but atleast efri is a character gwynn isnt

[pine verge]

how is efri not close to hh

[obtuse chasm]

Debatable

[hollow gazelle]

Agree

Guys im not saying gwynn is good 😭😭🙏

[elder wing]

He plays different destiny

[vast arch]

Gwynn needs more love she's still not good

[elder wing]

You do bruh… by comparing her to Efri

[obtuse chasm]

We understand what you’re saying, but if you put efrideet and hellhest in a shooting range compared to Jaren and Gwynn in a shooting range you’re wrong

[elder wing]

She needs to disappear

[hollow gazelle]

Im comparing the gap

[vast arch]

I don't know anything about that phone but I believe the game will run at 120fps on phones that can support that frame rate

[cobalt beacon]

@vast arch this is getting spicy

[buoyant shuttle]

Kinda cool they brought back Owen

[elder wing]

There’s no gap bruh… understand what you’re comparing first

[hollow gazelle]

Nvm man 😭😭

[empty kettle]

Who the hell is Owen?

[neon pebble]

That bad?

[cobalt beacon]

attal is the goat now

[hollow gazelle]

Always has been

[elder wing]

That bad!!! She needs a whole rework bro

[empty kettle]

Few more weeks until the new void character is revealed

[tight talon]

Yay

[cobalt beacon]

goat!!

[elder wing]

Time to dominate

[tight talon]

She can anytime

[thorny prism]

My friend has Poco F7
He's phone is good and has 120Hz but the game frame rate max is 60fps, that's why i asked

[vast arch]

I love Gwynn and I had a lot of fun playing her at launch but she's just not fun anymore compared to everyone else we have

[tight talon]

I just wanted her T1 regardless of state of meta

That's just free extra damage in super she was locked out of without T1

[elder wing]

HH. Efri. Hikora. Jaren! The rest is mid

[tight talon]

Has to be only 3

One of each element

Considering you ain't following one of the three archetype either

[vast arch]

Personally I'm waiting for the Helhest and Jaren re-runs

[elder wing]

Just talking about viable char

[obtuse chasm]

Nah who needs elements when you got arby

[river vigil]

I mean technically it could only be one

[tight talon]

Oh boy wondering Arby DPS on fudging Jaren

[river vigil]

who needs efficiency anymore

[vast arch]

Yeah in that case I'm not sure. Would need to hear from someone with that phone or reach out via #💁│ingame-tech-support

[obtuse chasm]

There’s little to no solo content, characters should be looked at in terms of their synergy with others

[neon pebble]

Fr 1st pull

[cobalt beacon]

real

[spice wigeon]

How did you do spread 😳

[tight talon]

Yet all these damage dealers self damage is higher than supporting their teammates

[neon pebble]

Am I done pulling on gwynn now?

[cobalt beacon]

yes

[obtuse chasm]

I don’t understand what you’re trying to say

[tight talon]

You just said Synergy with others.

[sharp talon]

our cordon #1 titles bugged out 💀

[river vigil]

I shot my crimson a lot

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah generals are bugged

[summer ledge]

I'll solve with one. Kabr the Second.

[elder wing]

Every patch notes new bug lmao

[obtuse chasm]

Would you recommend running 3 hellhest’s?

[remote grove]

Yeah general cordon title is dead it seems, mine self deleted after like 15 seconds of equipped

[cobalt beacon]

deserved

im the #1 biggest hater

[restive finch]

best artifact for kabr?

[sullen depot]

For the first cordon. U can technically run 3 HH lol. U can do the skip on the double impact section and just need to worry about the first impact room

[neon pebble]

2 gwynns, 30 pulls 🔥

[kindred onyx]

i like warding pact/ healing plasma/ rampaging pact/ inspiring plasma

[obtuse chasm]

Real, but I feel like that’s just a flex at that point or if you put everything into your HH 😭 I feel like she does the best by herself to get stacks faster

[elder wing]

Broski do you but don’t do you this time around… she’s already dead you can stop now 😫

[sullen depot]

Even Efredit can take care of the impact with crimson cuz of competition immunity. So like Efr/HH is all u need if u wanna not use an impact char

[empty kettle]

🐝

[elder wing]

Nah use gwyn the new meta char 🤣

[river vigil]

some poor soul in casual chat is going to be misled

[empty kettle]

Even on reddit

[remote grove]

😉

[elder wing]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-bruh-oh-my-god-bro-squid-game-squid-game-oh-my-god-saleswoman-gif-8159987268192744062

[river vigil]

you know what maybe they will be the one gwynn to clear all expanses

[elder wing]

How are people soo bad at deciding what char is good or bad lol

[sullen depot]

Sheep that only follows what others say and don’t wanna think for themselves

[neon pebble]

I play rossi bro

[river vigil]

personally I just play whatever character I like

[empty kettle]

Some people genuinely can't make decisions for themselves

[elder wing]

No wonder you going for gwyn

[river vigil]

I dont really care about viability unless I'm trying to get into an lfg

[neon pebble]

Fr, I dont play cheese in a mickey mouse game

[elder wing]

I guess lol but there’s plenty of videos or basic knowledge… he probably believed about gwyn being the best lmao

[tight talon]

Idk why people are seriously debating about Gwwynie rn

Sep 25 was last year

[elder wing]

Yessir. Just pull gwyn and we do some public event

[neon pebble]

Max orbs appears to be 14 cap between 6 held and 8 on ground. Lame should have been no cap

[elder wing]

There’s nooo a single debate. We all know she’s 🗑️

[tight talon]

Sounds rough buddy

[neon pebble]

Yall dont even realise the orbs not disappearing is the biggest PvP buff

[tight talon]

Hope the walls of the trash can solves your tinnitus problem

[empty kettle]

With the upcoming void character next month, a void rerun banner is bait

[elder wing]

Pvp? In rising? Woooow big win

[neon pebble]

Next upcoming character is bait

[neon pebble]

Why so mad bro? Who seriously hurt you?

You so mad about gwynn

[elder wing]

Broski as long as you have Jaren HH and Ikora you’ll be fine

[tight talon]

Tbf not a big deal anyways. That char is likely Void Spread again

Or Void Precision

[neon pebble]

T6 and boring, I have em im bored of em

[river vigil]

i think the initial leak post said void rapid

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[tight talon]

Efri wasn't Arc Rapid

[elder wing]

Sure 🤣

[obtuse chasm]

Leaderboards would like to argue with that statement

[tight talon]

I mean archetype

Not she can clear anything regardless of archetype

[empty kettle]

Never cared about her

[elder wing]

Yh gwyn better

[tight talon]

Yeah but character archetypes are the way to predict what next character would run in weapon type

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[obtuse chasm]

This has already been proven false

[neon pebble]

You dont have to aim on Jare Bear bub

[obtuse chasm]

Why do yall still believe in that

[elder wing]

How so lol

[elder wing]

Where T6 hh and t6 ikora?

[tight talon]

Not my fault they went and reintroduced Kabr and Hairkora

[river vigil]

[tight talon]

And they weren't unique releases

[indigo solar]

Until Efrideet, new characters followed a predictable cycle of which weapon archetypes and element they would use

Now only the element cycle still stands

[neon pebble]

T6 Gwynn soon trust

[obtuse chasm]

Have we had a new character since efrideet? There’s no way of telling until we do if that statement still holds true

[elder wing]

Until

[tight talon]

That depends whether next character is Spread

[indigo solar]

Efrideet is the one that broke it, she should have been rapid

[tight talon]

If yeah then it's cooked

[elder wing]

Win

[empty kettle]

I doubt that the next character is spread

[neon pebble]

She is a piercing Ning, she even has summons like him 💀 couldnt make her rapid also

[elder wing]

Another piercing

[obtuse chasm]

Yes but my point is we have no way of knowing if the chain will continue on from this point on, it’s quite literally all hypotheticals regardless of how you look at it, but people are speaking of it as if it’s a fact

[tight talon]

We can just speculate

Her abilities looked like spread in the leak

Her orb being explosive to begin with

[indigo solar]

I was just explaining to Xiuz how archetypes used to let us predict new character weapons

[elder wing]

It won’t lol we can just assume…

[remote grove]

Well rapid is gone from cordon.. Wonder how many months till it comes back

[elder wing]

Not anymore..

[empty kettle]

Next month

[elder wing]

Till next char drops which is rapid void in 21 days

[indigo solar]

Yes that's what "used to" means

[gaunt briar]

3 weeks also when next banner spawns

[hazy ledge]

How much has Gwynns build changed from season 1? Or is it still using the plantesimal set

[elder wing]

Yes yes. Thanks

[empty kettle]

Imagine we get bad juju or graviton lance

[remote grove]

They skipped solar with efrideet, so maybe solar?

[obtuse chasm]

Im not referring to you specifically, more so the people who take that theory and run with it

[empty kettle]

Solar is jaren

[elder wing]

Solar was jaren lol

Solar. Arc. Void

[remote grove]

Ahh I getting it mixed up

[elder wing]

Yh don’t count the Kabr and hikora banners

[tight talon]

Just say my name lol, also this theory is so old it's been up on this server since September lol

[proper niche]

Xur will be the next character - his will is not his own so his weapons will rotate (based on what the IX wants) and his ult will be tentacles pulling enemies into the void 😏

[obtuse chasm]

Last time I checked “predictions” weren’t always factual statements but if you want to be singled out that’s on you @tight talon

[indigo solar]

Inb4 he's overpowered so they kill 3 to nerf him

[elder wing]

Next char is predicted to be piercing 🤣

[obtuse chasm]

Piercing void 😏

Nah nah

[neon pebble]

People are super cereal here, discord community has changed. Its ok I understand what you saying. Some people just have to be bullies 🤷 usually a sign of issues in real life so dont be mean back

[elder wing]

Honestly 🤣

[obtuse chasm]

Piercing solar

[indigo solar]

Nah cycle is gonna stay exactly the same, except for rapid chars. We're never getting another

[tight talon]

Fine by me instead of being vague and mysteriously saying all characters are just dependent on dev's mood instead of bare minimum 3 months of planning

But true it's just Rising-GPT generate me a D2 character

At the end of the day

[neon pebble]

Plot twist turns out Wolf is Xur from the future

[elder wing]

Welp they gave us Efri as last rapid 🤣

[proper niche]

Some will die, but that's the sacrifice IX is willing to take (in lord Farquade voice)

[sullen depot]

When efr does better in rapid than Ning. 😩

[obtuse chasm]

I’m not big on predictions or theory’s in terms of gaming, because when those theory’s don’t turn out to be what everyone wanted everyone throws a fit. All I care about is damage, and what’s currently in the game or announced

But for some people that’s their thing and that’s okay to, personally I just wait till things are announced

[elder wing]

Ning my boy god his name thrown outta the window 😫

[remote grove]

Gwynn 2.0 is next character

[elder wing]

He just needs new exotic man… that boy be using same crossbow for decades now

[obtuse chasm]

They need to buff rapid weaps

Somehow idk how but they need to

Higher precision modifier or something idk

[elder wing]

Big time lol

[sullen depot]

They need to buff LFR 😈(im def not a HH main)

[elder wing]

When was the last you saw ning change on the patch notes lol NEVER! Ppl used to hate on him and they nerfed him

[sullen depot]

Nah they didn’t nerf Ning. Just nerf Maha

They only really nerf weapons

[elder wing]

Whole maha is ninggggg

[sullen depot]

Like the cluster bomb nerf for Ikora2.0

[sullen depot]

Man was the OG strongest before HH rolled in

[elder wing]

Nerfing maha is like telling ning to slow down

[obtuse chasm]

Nerf Ning, give him an efrideet dash without competition

[empty kettle]

This would be perfect for team killing if they are at full health

[elder wing]

Honestly man

[sullen depot]

I remember they had to nerf Maha on breaking precision Shinkas as well

[elder wing]

On all types lol

[elder wing]

Meta meta metaaaa

[empty kettle]

And you have 2 signatures and a super that can give this buff

[tight talon]

Sounds rough to be a part of those communities. I have been part of groups who get into game beta tests and it's a brick measuring contest for old characters vs new instead of one odd, "Oh next character might be this weapon type since they have been keeping elemental types but weapons switch around" and it generates positive conversations over wanting a certain character establishing how they already are in lore.

[obtuse chasm]

Attal is meta

[tight talon]

People being pissed if Saladin tomorrow is just Nova Bomber is Netease's fault

[elder wing]

Yeah definitely meta

[mossy holly]

Oh god

[obtuse chasm]

I mean in all reality we saw a bit of it in this community with efrideet, a few people were livid about it, but not as bad as I’ve seen in other communities with new character releases

Then again I’m not a big lore guy either, seeing as more often then not characters don’t tend to keep up with their lore in terms of dps or how well they perform

[empty kettle]

Constant ally dmg boost from healing your teammates can go crazy

[sullen depot]

Assuming the next char is indeed a void rapid. I think their heavy weapon is gonna be a crossbow as the BP weapon. We already have a lot of exotic LMG

[indigo solar]

They just nerfed Maya's effectiveness vs off-type shinkas

Ning was never nerfed, he's fallen out of favour because endgame no longer prioritises speed as much

[obtuse chasm]

I mean it’s almost a guarantee we’re going to get another rapid but tbh I wouldn’t mind never getting another rapid ever again unless maybe it’s a support buffer or support debuffer

[sullen depot]

Inb4 it’s a void impact lol

[obtuse chasm]

I’d jump atp

[charred sail]

bro just hates rapid characters

[sullen depot]

It’s like eh yall decided to pull on Gwynn rerun banner. Well guess what….

[obtuse chasm]

I mean for valid reasons, I love Ning but he doesn’t perform well

[charred sail]

we haven't gotten a rapid since week 2 of the game....

[obtuse chasm]

Neither do any of the other rapid characters

Why? Because rapid weaps suck

[empty kettle]

The act 2 character could be our chance to see a rapid fire void support character

[river vigil]

part of me wants to pull on the banner just for fortuna crystals, but I've had her t6 since the 2nd day of the game so I'll try to stay strong

[obtuse chasm]

This I’m all for

[indigo solar]

Huh

[sullen depot]

Stay strong! Holddddd

[indigo solar]

Estela is literally meta rn

[thorny frost]

For team killing? I think it will depend on if this triggers even if they would be brought to 0 health from an attack. The last minute heal could end up being a life saver, but all we know that ability won’t exist either XD.

[obtuse chasm]

In fair play maybe

Other then that where do you see a Estella excelling

Besides her own expanse

[indigo solar]

Expanse and cordon

[obtuse chasm]

Cordon? You lost me

[empty kettle]

Maybe, maybe not. It will depend on if they changed it

[thorny frost]

I don’t know, Estela can pull off 1.8- 1.9 mill dps in 14 seconds, and still have sustain to fall back on. Or she can be built for full sustain… I do dislike Cordon has no rapid fire this week tho >.>

[obtuse chasm]

Both cordons are merged, there’s not a seperate leaderboard, idc if she can complete stage 11 if she’s not pushing to the top she’s not meta

She’s a solid pick

But meta is a reach

[indigo solar]

She was absolutely pushing to the top last week, rapid cordon is gone now tho

[obtuse chasm]

Didn’t see a single Estella in top 10

[sullen depot]

The first cordon was a test, now they are gonna use cordon to match banners and emanare char buffs tbh

So we don’t get a solar cordon until Estella rerun prolly

I could be wrong though

[thorny frost]

Hopefully that changes and they just did this for “reasons”. I liked that all weapon types had a use in content

[indigo solar]

Because rapid cordon ended at 10

[thorny frost]

She definitely has issue on off shinkas

[obtuse chasm]

But that just furthers my point

Most meta characters rn don’t need to be in their home court to have the advantage

[indigo solar]

Okay, the rapid character is meta in any activity that has rapid shinkas or no shinkas. Happy now?

[indigo solar]

Yes they do lmao

[tight talon]

[indigo solar]

You pretty much have to match the char to the shinka except for HH and Efrideet

[tight talon]

No fair, why is Precision Character like EFRIDEET good in IMPACT! EXPANSE

[obtuse chasm]

Yes, the two top meta picks

[sullen depot]

And ikora2.0. She can pop impact

[indigo solar]

There's more than two meta characters

[obtuse chasm]

If estella is meta she’s on the bottom of it, and barely scraping by

[indigo solar]

But she's not meta for impact

[sharp talon]

last cordon cycle with the spread, we had no spread char for 13

[sullen depot]

Competition OP

and just Crimson being revived from the deaths cuz of Efrideet

[pine verge]

Buff maru 2k26

[sullen depot]

Assuming they only do qol buffs rather than hard buffs like Gwynn what qol buff does Maru even need?

[pine verge]

Weapon damage on resonance bar and a better t6 to start. Probably make her weapon mastery bomblets track to enemies too

[tight talon]

she needs hits on shield to increase duration of shield

or hits on shield overflows mag upto 100%

depends on flavours u like

[pine verge]

I think her shield is fine tbh. Honestly weird she isnt a defense character too lol

[indigo solar]

Noooooooooo

There's a reason hitting shield takes duration away

[indigo solar]

She used to auto reload/overflow her lgl when she cast shield at t6

[pine verge]

Her current t6 is so buns

[tight talon]

so u mean duration of existing shield can be increased with Summon health>?

[indigo solar]

No, but it may decrease how much you get penalized when it gets shot

Not sure

[pine verge]

Removing that is a crime

[summer ledge]

I will not tolerate this Kabr slander. He can hold his own against spread shinkas too.

[indigo solar]

Huh

[empty kettle]

What slander?

[indigo solar]

No one said he can't

But he isn't meta in spread content

[summer ledge]

KABR

this but with a beard

[obtuse chasm]

Ah you mean “skill issue” the character

[sullen depot]

I mean tbf symmetry is good into spread 👀

But yeah he ain’t meta

[obtuse chasm]

Shhh it’s bait

[sullen depot]

I love weapons that handle different shinkas tho. It’s nice for build crafting def

[obtuse chasm]

Real, I’d personally love to see a whole switch up of the meta

But I guess cordon and it’s different modifiers could possibly do that

[sullen depot]

Aaah I hope they have another event exotic soon. I know we just got 3 from the raid but those are all arc and also all buggy

[summer ledge]

Heresy.

[cobalt beacon]

@sharp talon how far are you on piercing?

[sharp talon]

still on 72 havent tried it all that much since im trying to get my last 5 star XD

[summer ledge]

And no, none of this is serious, before it becomes something. I feel like after the LFG server I need to specify since people refuse to read. You play who you want.

[sharp talon]

how far are you?

[cobalt beacon]

i think 76 is possible but

holy that stage sucks

[sharp talon]

all 5 star arti?

[obtuse chasm]

I need to push again 😔 but I died on first attempt of 72 and just took a break

[cobalt beacon]

no

[obtuse chasm]

You’re right everyone can play whoever they want except for Kabr

[cobalt beacon]

atleast kabr is more of a character than gwynn

[obtuse chasm]

Valid

[cobalt beacon]

elite ball knowledge

[sweet urchin]

I still can't get the reward, was it only available during contest the first 2 days ?

[cobalt beacon]

@sharp talon hows rapid fire looking?

[sharp talon]

im still on 72

[cobalt beacon]

same sighhh

[obtuse chasm]

“Great hunt” you’re screwed bub

[cobalt beacon]

you beat 79 on impact? @sharp talon

[sharp talon]

ye

[cobalt beacon]

or i mean 80

[sharp talon]

no not 80

[cobalt beacon]

i keep thinking the stage before because of leaderboards

[cobalt beacon]

yeah its overchopped

idek what to push anymore

everything seems cooked

[sharp talon]

ye

[cobalt beacon]

spreads boring

[sharp talon]

im doing spread now cuz someone beat me

[cobalt beacon]

what spread are you on

[sharp talon]

76, still on 4 star arti on my ikora

other guy already has full 5 star rset

[cobalt beacon]

yeah i just cant be asked with ikora man

[sharp talon]

ye its very obnoxious tbh

[cobalt beacon]

lol!

[sharp talon]

is that cabal boss?

[cobalt beacon]

aka hell yes

[sharp talon]

oh that was painful

the 70 spread boss is so easy too 😂

[cobalt beacon]

i remember when i did that on jaren on another expanse i was just sitting there somehow tanking

[sweet urchin]

I cleared great hunt, but just after contest, why It didn't worked? Was only on contest?

[sharp talon]

did u use eternal death?

[cobalt beacon]

yes

[obtuse chasm]

I did contest, I’ll check mine real quick

[cobalt beacon]

the only thing i used last word on was impact i think

and that was not always

i really like that handcannon

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah mine says completed so it may have just been during the event bro

[cobalt beacon]

seems better for jaren than for efrifeet

[obtuse chasm]

But it should’ve registered after contest

[sweet urchin]

All people I asked that did in contest get the quest reward, most that cleared after contest didn't get

Seems stupid

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah same, I’m not sure if they meant to put contest or not, but tbf they did expect more people to complete contest

[sweet urchin]

Cleared it multiples times

[obtuse chasm]

I think they meant to put contest, there were 600 slots available and I think only 270 of those were filled

Maybe they expected more hence why they put it in there

[sweet urchin]

I think so, they forgot to add great hunt "contest"

[obtuse chasm]

But I’d make a support claim or wherever else you could to hopefully complete it since the raid didn’t turn out as was expected

[sweet urchin]

Or they forgot to activate for normal great hunt

I opened a ticket yes

[cobalt beacon]

im guessing its supposed to be for contest

[pine verge]

How do you open a ticket? Ingame or via email? I sent an email and got no reply

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah I’m thinking the same, but they didn’t really specify contest more so just the great hunt event

[cobalt beacon]

because its like seasonal they want you to play the entire season and achieve stuff in it

would be my guess

[obtuse chasm]

I honestly think they just thought more people would actually complete contest

[sweet urchin]

I think it's a bit too hard since a very few people manage to clear it on contest

i play multiple hours almost everyday, but coulndt during this week end

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah but that was mainly a skill issue for some people and also people not knowing how to work together and what their roles are

The other 30% missed because of Easter

[sweet urchin]

I'm in this 30% haha but no worries it is just a quest

[obtuse chasm]

It was bad timing for sure

[sweet urchin]

Will still be able to claim all season reward even without it?

[twilit thistle]

Who let you out of the mines?

[cobalt beacon]

i dont do the mines the mines do me!!!

[patent plume]

my game is crashing and getting error 901 after i load in, i have a 9070xt and i tried downgrading drivers but didnt work. anyone know the fix?

[sweet urchin]

I mean this

[obtuse chasm]

Saw this same complaint on Reddit sadly I’m not a pc player

[torn ginkgo]

Is gwen even any good? I never see her

[obtuse chasm]

No

[empty kettle]

The amount of quest available will surpass the required 360 needed

[twilit thistle]

Amd is an issue

[torn ginkgo]

I had this issue and downgrading working for me. Did you go to the November version of the driver?

[pine verge]

Where did ya get this number bro

[sweet urchin]

Thank you guys for the help

[cobalt beacon]

im 30% sure hes right

[pine verge]

Im 67% sure he is atleast 70% right

[cobalt beacon]

real

[obtuse chasm]

Random number to please the people who didn’t have time so they wouldn’t feel like I was referring to them when I said “skill issue”

[patent plume]

yea i tried but it wouldnt complete bc ig its too old. adrenaline wouldnt open unless i went to a newer version

[cobalt beacon]

99% was skill issue

[pine verge]

Just use ambiguous terms instead of absolute statistics

[torn ginkgo]

That's so weird, I also have 9070xt

[pine verge]

A bunch, many, a lot, etc

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah idc

It’s not that deep

[pine verge]

ok buddy

[cobalt beacon]

beef

lets get it cracking!!!

[pine verge]

I prefer lamb these days

[cursive depot]

huh

[thick radish]

Does anyone know if NetEase is aware of how terrible character swap is for cordion when you get to 5+? Doesn't seem to let you swap if the characters base power is too low despite the emamare thing pushing you past the min. Requirement

[cyan tide]

Yeah, it's a clear oversight. Makes it very annoying to matchmake

[neat valley]

Do I just open all these ? I don’t think there’s a reason so save them anymore ?

[sullen depot]

Save em for when u need attribute transfers

In case the exotics u have remaining have attribute that cant transfer. For example the game only gives u super boost in ur chaos runs so u cant transfer yet

So u can use these engrams as a backup essentially

[neat valley]

I guess I’ll save them for more months then

[sullen depot]

Alwyas a good back up to have or for a chance at higher base attribute scores as well

[cyan tide]

They're lvl 80 so their base attribute score is capped at 30

[sullen depot]

Ooh oops I missed that. Ok just for normal attribute transfers then

[frozen tree]

What weapons are people running on Jaren? Is crimson good on him at all?

Wanna get prepared for when I can get him at end of season

[sharp talon]

crimson is good on him

last word, eternal death

[placid verge]

Has anyone here had success with the support email before? I emailed the "24/7" support email about a week ago about being unable toacces my account and they have not responded.

Even followed up twice.

[neat valley]

I only message support on the app

And it worked

[frozen tree]

What mythic shot guns should I grind for in the meantime to run with crimson? I’m thinking one of the void ones since I run solar sniper on Efri

That way they complement each other in content coverage

[cyan tide]

If you can't invest in a bp weapon (last word, eternal death) then you should probably run octant riot with the solar mythic HC

[placid verge]

Can I do that from the home screen without logging in?

[frozen tree]

Is crimson just not good on him or are the exotic shotguns better than crimson by a huge margin?

Cuz I already have crimson built and if it will work fine I’d like to not waste my time as much building another exotic so soon

[cyan tide]

Crimson just has a bit of anti-synergy with his kit

[sullen depot]

Crimson is only used for running rapid fire expanse. Otherwise it’s not good on jaren as it blows through ur welling light quickly

[frozen tree]

That makes sense, thank you

I’ll keep that in mind, maybe start working on one of the exotic shotguns. Which do you think is worth investing into?

[sullen depot]

There is only one exotic shotgun

[frozen tree]

I thought there was 2? I guess I was mistaken

[neat valley]

Anyone need to run cordon , I’m on 7 each side , haven’t touched it since the season release lol

[sullen depot]

Cordon got reset earlier today btw so it’s a new cordon from season release

[cyan tide]

Chaperone in shambles

[sullen depot]

What’s that 👀👀

[sharp talon]

i switched off last word and eternal death for crimson to do one of the solar impact stages (76 iirc)

i prefer it compared to the mythic hc tbh

[slow olive]

Hey ummm devs

When are we expecting the ability to delete certain storage files for the game?

[cursive depot]

huh

[cyan tide]

The game is only 18gb, I don't think it needs that yet

[bitter estuary]

balls

[wide dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1360423911057129616/1362635713274974288/twitter_1913014198256488823.gif

[empty kettle]

13gb for me

[neon pebble]

Re install, when you log in dont download the extras pause all downloads and choose what you want

[neat valley]

18gb is not much for a game

[obtuse chasm]

I need to check these more often

[austere apex]

Does anyone know if buying the treasury is for both sets or just one?

[barren phoenix]

What are the best artifacts for efrideet?

I seen lots of different combos but don’t have the resources to upgrade all of them

[obtuse chasm]

Nourishing pact, ring of conversion, rampaging pact, spiral

With crimson and ist

[slow olive]

Good idea, but still a QoL that's needed

[barren phoenix]

If I want to use BP HC

[slow olive]

No devs, the idea "make the game big so it's the only game they'll play" won't work

[obtuse chasm]

Same build, bp hc is just weaker on efrideet

[slow olive]

My people

[barren phoenix]

Really!?!?

[slow olive]

Imagine getting outmogged by crimson of all HC's

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/freakuna-sukuna-freakyy-gif-1889928341291246185

[slow olive]

Btw how does Oldie do on Efrideet and how does it compare to it's competition?

[barren phoenix]

No way! Crimson is better than BP HC!?!?

[obtuse chasm]

Crimson procs her spears more often, adding more damage

[obtuse chasm]

Yes

Bp hc is good for single target but not really needed

Higher cordons crimson is more viable

Might run bp hc for like 12+ but other then that expanse as well as other higher tier modes crimson is the play

[slow olive]

Htf did we forget this could exist in Rising

[indigo solar]

Crimson is better ad clear, BP is better boss damage

[obtuse chasm]

Wrong, the weapons alone yes but not on efrideet

[slow olive]

As the Iron Lords began to recruit, Saladin left to defend the village of Patch Run from a Fallen House that frequently assaulted it. He was unexpectedly joined by Efrideet, a Lightbearer whom he did not entirely trust. As they finished off a band of Fallen on a cliffside near the town, Efrideet declared she was out of ammo, and Saladin stated that she could leave the rest to him. He dodged her question about why he did not trust her and rebuffed her interest in joining the Iron Lords by declaring that he was searching for more than just Lightbearers who could shoot. He turned towards the town and informed her that it had forty-three inhabitants, only half of whom were capable of fighting. Efrideet softly said that it was hardly even a village, but Saladin retorted that they lived a noble life. He admitted that they were under constant attack from a Fallen House in a nearby bunker that he routinely assaulted in hopes of driving them away, but so far, nothing had worked. As they spoke, a Fallen Skiff roared by and dropped a Walker into the field between the village and bunker. Without ammo, Saladin was at a loss for what to do, with the Walker being out of range of his Light powers and the time it would take to climb down surely dooming the village. However, Efrideet offered to throw him, causing Saladin to laugh until he realized she was serious and declared there was no dignity in that. She pointed out there was no dignity in letting the village die either.[3]

Saladin agreed to Efrideet's plan and began to warn her not to miss as he gathered Arc energy around himself. He was cut off when she suddenly hoisted him over her head, gathering her Light for the throw. Their combined Arc Light caused the mountain to begin rumbling as she charged forward and launched Saladin through the air, and he tore across the sky and through the clouds as an Arc missile.[4] Efrideet's aim proved true and Saladin destroyed the Walker, saving Patch Run. He was revived by his Ghost as Efrideet arrived at the field and mocked him for thinking she might miss. Admitting he had never seen her miss a shot before as he wondered what had taken her so long to reach him, Efrideet revealed that a few Fallen had survived the Arc strike. Alarmed, he asked where they were now, but she reassured him none had made it to the village. With newfound respect for Efrideet, Saladin admitted that someone with her skills and moral compass would be welcome in the Iron Lords. However, she only agreed to join if he promised she could throw him again if they ran out of ammo once more. He told Efrideet to meet them at Dwindler's Ridge and when she questioned how many of them there were he smirked and answered "a few".[5]

[obtuse chasm]

Brother what is this…

[placid verge]

Can anyone link me the support page? I'm not sure how to submit a ticket through the game and emailing support has given no repsonse. I lost my account of like 4 months.

[slow olive]

Official Mainline lore as to how Efrideet joined the Iron Lords

[obtuse chasm]

Oh thought it was spam for a bit, might read through it later

[slow olive]

Efrideet in all her 600+ years of glory in front of the Traveller

[indigo solar]

Crimson just procs faster, not more often. There's a limit on how many lightning bolts each can proc

[indigo solar]

Yes lmao? BP will give you significantly better boss damage on efri

[obtuse chasm]

Have you tested this yourself on high level cordon or expanse?

You’re wrong, crimson is the better pick

For everything

“Better boss damage” is misleading

[indigo solar]

Please explain to me how crimson deals more damage to bosses than a boosted sniper

Because nobody is using primary on bosses

[slow olive]

Here's a lore tidbit on how awesome Efrideet is
Spoiler for Destiny 2

||After the Red Legion captured the Last City and imprisoned the Traveler, Efrideet and the other Guardians were stripped of their Light. Her enclave cut off communication during the crisis, so Efrideet joined the resistance against the Red Legion in the guise of a refugee and participated in the assault to reclaim the Last City and kill Ghaul. Taking a position on a rooftop with her sniper rifle, she killed 216 Cabal with 199 shots. During the battle, the Traveler awakens to destroy Ghaul and free itself. With the Light returned to her, Efrideet began to cry with joy at the sight of the Traveler awakened. Her enclave then contacted her, as they felt the return of the Light as well. They informed her that the whole cosmos was now ablaze with Light, and Efrideet responded to them she would be coming home.[14]||

[obtuse chasm]

You genuinely think 11+ they’re only using heavy?

Speaking from EXPERIENCE crimson is better

[jagged osprey]

Farming exotic cores is actually a miserable experience atm holy

[slow olive]

Here's the thing

You can no longer grind exotic cores

[indigo solar]

I literally specifically clarified boss damage

[slow olive]

You can only get them via season shop

So yeah the devs can go trip more frequently

[sharp talon]

my friend only uses crimson on boss 💀 we did 13. and he out dmg hh a lot

[indigo solar]

And yeah, you are going to do significantly better boss damage with BP

[slow olive]

Preferrably with a bread with the spread facing their shirt

[obtuse chasm]

Yes and it’s not, you’re right a boosted sniper does more but you’re not burning down a boss on cordon like you would a strike or anything below stage 11, majority of the time you’re using primary

[jagged osprey]

You can grind them, it’s just stupidly slow. The leg campaign is a lot longer to grind atm

[obtuse chasm]

So in reality crimson is the better pick no one’s trying to min max for low cordons

[slow olive]

Oh wait you're talking about the Infusion Cores

Yeah they should triple the base drops

Awww piss off RNG

[indigo solar]

If you aren't doing the majority of your damage with 16 + 8 sniper ammo you need to rebuild lmao

[obtuse chasm]

Lmk when you hit 10+

[indigo solar]

Lmk when someone using crimson gets in top 10

[obtuse chasm]

Check leaderboards

Well I guess you can’t rn

[indigo solar]

I did, 15th place

[obtuse chasm]

Which leaderboard are you checking

[indigo solar]

This is the highest team with crimson

[indigo solar]

Last season

[obtuse chasm]

Top 4

[indigo solar]

Also this is hilarious since your record is 11

[obtuse chasm]

And yours is?

[obtuse chasm]

My team stopped pushing since our hellhest was underpowered

[neat valley]

w efri builds

[obtuse chasm]

Thought he was running crimson my bad

[sharp talon]

not on na but on emea/apac but arto here was using crimson

this is 13

[neat valley]

no proof

[obtuse chasm]

Back to this…

What’s your highest cordon?

[indigo solar]

I just found it really funny that you're saying "lmk when you hit 10" when you haven't even hit 10 yet

[neat valley]

my highest is 19

[indigo solar]

I haven't attempted cordon in s4

[obtuse chasm]

Yes because there is a big gap

But you’re commenting on other peoples ranks?

Extremely odd

[indigo solar]

Because you brought them up

[obtuse chasm]

Actually you did

[indigo solar]

Actually you did

High level = the furthest teams

[sullen depot]

Both builds work. Crimson is totally fine as proven my rawr

[indigo solar]

Not "just as far as I got"

[obtuse chasm]

“Have you tested this yourself” = leaderboards?

As I said odd

[indigo solar]

"High level cordon" = leaderboards

The highest level cordon players aren't using crimson

[obtuse chasm]

Rawr just showed otherwise… NA is the same person 30 times

[elder wing]

@obtuse chasm Broski don’t even listen to someone that doesn’t compete in high end content lmao

[sullen depot]

Especially if u slap the mod on ur sniper that increases ur primary weapon damage by 40%. Crimson goes brrrrr

[indigo solar]

How did rawr show otherwise

[obtuse chasm]

…

[sharp talon]

we got cordon number one on emea/apac btw

[indigo solar]

That's 13

Lower than people got with BP

[obtuse chasm]

Is that not high level cordon?

[indigo solar]

Not the highest

[sharp talon]

what was the highest 14?

[obtuse chasm]

…

[obtuse chasm]

15

[sharp talon]

ic

[indigo solar]

If you're saying "lmao BP bad at high level" then you probably don't want the highest level people using BP

That really undercuts your point

[sharp talon]

we couldve gotten 14 idk about 15

[slow olive]

THE NEW EVENT HAS PLENTY OF ARTIFICUAL ESSENCES

[pine verge]

discord pvp goes crazy

[obtuse chasm]

What would me saying not to use bp hc change about the top leaderboards…

[slow olive]

THEY'RE ALL AWARE OF THE ARTIFICIAL RESOURCE DROUGHT

NETEASE YOU SKUNKS

[obtuse chasm]

As I said NA is literally all 1 person

[sharp talon]

bruh i have 7k essence idk how ppl rrun out of this stuff

[obtuse chasm]

You’re basing one guy as your source

[pine verge]

U play a lot bro

[elder wing]

Exactly my thoughts

[obtuse chasm]

And others copying him

[modest tiger]

Anybody wana play shifting gates with me?

[indigo solar]

You're saying BP is worse than Crimson for boss damage, cited high level cordon, but leaderboards show that BP is performing better at high level cordon than Crimson

[obtuse chasm]

Crimson can push higher, no one has tried it yet

[indigo solar]

Old prefect can push higher, no one has tried it yet

[obtuse chasm]

Leaderboards are showing that bangg is performing better

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[modest tiger]

@empty kettle shifting gates?

[indigo solar]

And 30+ people using BP doing as good or better than crimson

[neat valley]

leaderboards this and leaderboards that lol

[indigo solar]

You can't just say crimson is better because you do better with it

[frozen tree]

Crimson is better than bp weapon || for the bank account ||

[modest tiger]

Bro anythings good when u swipe the credit card 😭

Just use what u want if u can max it

[river vigil]

Except old prefect

[indigo solar]

But again, my original point was never whether crimson or BP was better in general, it was explicitly about boss damage

And you can't honestly tell me you do more boss damage with crimson than BP

[remote grove]

Maxing old prefect right meow

[frozen tree]

Is cloudstrike actually bad on efri cuz it’s like not in this conversation at all

[indigo solar]

Bc not only does BP boost heavy but I'm 95% sure it has better single target on its own than crimson

[obtuse chasm]

Yes

[neat valley]

i love it on her

[indigo solar]

Bad on everyone

[elder wing]

I got all 4 maxed

[modest tiger]

It’s really good

[indigo solar]

Lightning pattern is jank

[neat valley]

my bis for efri\

[slow olive]

Cloudstrike and Bad in the same sentence should not compute

[frozen tree]

I’m getting the most mixed results lol

[sharp talon]

old prefect is secretly the best (i have 10 minutes on efrideet)

[pine verge]

Quite obvious BP will be better for boss damage

[indigo solar]

Exactly, idk why genarrows is struggling so much

[neat valley]

cloudstrike goes crazy on efri

[modest tiger]

@frozen tree if ur playing the next raid cloudstike is a must for a sniper

[obtuse chasm]

Because your basing your math or knowledge off of shooting range and other people

[elder wing]

Snipers need buff asap

[pine verge]

I really hope they make cloudstrike explode every 3rd hit

[obtuse chasm]

Not from personal experience

[indigo solar]

Brother

[pine verge]

Cloudstrike has too much aura to be mid

[river vigil]

Bait used to be believable

[frozen tree]

I’m mostly talking for like expanse and cordon

[slow olive]

What's really underrated is Efrideet's ability to dish out Izanagi's super rounds 3-5 times if you can swap fast enough for her autoloading to activate

[empty kettle]

This argument sounds familiar

[obtuse chasm]

Crimson can perform just as well as Bp hc for bossing from lightning procs

[slow olive]

Thunderlord too

[indigo solar]

Send me any proof of doing more single-target damage with Crimson than BP, I'm begging you

[modest tiger]

Still goated bro

[elder wing]

He right though lol do a boss run with both on stage 70 expanse and let us know

[pine verge]

He has better than truth, he has vibez

[indigo solar]

Lightning procs are limited lmao, Crimson just procs them sooner

[slow olive]

Wtbt rapid firing Jezi or Simmit?

[obtuse chasm]

You haven’t played efrideet have you?

[pine verge]

Crimson does also generate more spears fwiw

[slow olive]

No wait imagine a precision fram arc mythic HC sometime down the line

[indigo solar]

You only get 6 per javelin

[pine verge]

LMFAO

this is more entertaining than playing the game rn

[indigo solar]

Genuine question, if top players using BP can't convince you, and training range can't convince you, what would

[neat valley]

outdamage the crimson with cloudstrik easily

[indigo solar]

No it doesn't

Max of 15 points

[modest tiger]

It’s incredible idk what ppl r talking abt

[elder wing]

Top players this top players that lmao… do some dmg tst on both and let us know

[obtuse chasm]

Because you can’t base your facts off of one person hogging leaderboards, and shooting range…

[neat valley]

ez cloudstrike is op

[sharp talon]

arbalest worst weapon in the game

look

[indigo solar]

So your proof that crimson is better is... one person not on the top of leaderboards

[remote grove]

Heroic blitz vibes

[pine verge]

Doesnt overflow during competition recharge regardless?

[obtuse chasm]

My point is bossing isn’t a 20 or even 10 sec test

[indigo solar]

No

[obtuse chasm]

For cordon

[neat valley]

still outdamage them in any mode

[indigo solar]

Okay?

[pine verge]

I was pretty sure thats how it worked, with the point cap being additional recharge at the end or something

[modest tiger]

@neat valley it’s easily the most potent sniper in contest mode

[obtuse chasm]

So you can’t properly judge if it’s better for bossing or not

[indigo solar]

Even if you only use primary, BP still has better single target than crimson lmao

And it also boosts your heavy

So you can absolutely judge if it's better

[obtuse chasm]

You’re telling an efrideet main what the bp hc does…

[indigo solar]

Yeah

I am

Since you clearly don't understand

[pine verge]

insane aura

[obtuse chasm]

I’m well aware that it boosts heavy

[indigo solar]

Gun with high dps that also boosts heavy does more damage than gun with moderately high dps

This is simple

[elder wing]

You not gonna change his mind lol let it go

[neat valley]

yes

[frozen tree]

Brick wall vs brick wall

[sharp talon]

eternal death shoots slow and feels bad. i would rather use crimson than old prefect

[obtuse chasm]

No it’s not, because you’re not factoring in the fact that things don’t just die in 20 secs after dumping all your heavy into them in cordon

[neat valley]

if u die in cordon ur just bad

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

[obtuse chasm]

We’re talking about damage

[indigo solar]

I literally am, that's my point. Even if you don't use any heavy it does more

[pine verge]

old prefect slams though insane scorch damage

[indigo solar]

To a single target

[obtuse chasm]

Again, is this personal experience?

[elder wing]

That why I told Gacha thing to go and do some testing on both expanse 70 and hell see 🤣

[sharp talon]

tbh ive never used old prefect 😂

[modest tiger]

Someone play shifting gates with me

[indigo solar]

Personal experience, leaderboards, and training range

Your proof that crimson is better is purely anecdotal

[obtuse chasm]

Now you’re lying, you just said you haven’t pushed cordon

[indigo solar]

No numbers or performance to back it up

[indigo solar]

Breaking: cordon isn't the only game mode

[elder wing]

Expanse is

[obtuse chasm]

Breaking: it’s the only mode damage matters other then expanse

[neat valley]

this sounds like when people used to talk about calamity

[obtuse chasm]

And what’s on top in expanse?

[indigo solar]

Because it's the calamity people

[neat valley]

anything only mattered if they used it on calamity leaderboard

[indigo solar]

Exactly

[modest tiger]

The person who maxes the credit card on the newest character

[neat valley]

now its the same hting for cordon, lmfao bunch of weirdos

[elder wing]

Nah just this gacha girl tryna make pol believe what he bel

[obtuse chasm]

You literally just said your facts are based off leaderboards you’re clowning on yourself atp

[neat valley]

we can all believe what we want, thats the beauty of being alive

[indigo solar]

A tie between crimson and BP

[elder wing]

🤣

[indigo solar]

No, I'm saying you brought up high end cordon, where the leaderboards are in my favour

[obtuse chasm]

No

[indigo solar]

Yes

[obtuse chasm]

Crimson beats bp hc by a mile in expanse

In terms of usage

[neat valley]

f both those handcannons, the mythic adept one is better

[bitter estuary]

balls

[indigo solar]

Two efri on 78, one has crimson and one has BP

[elder wing]

I love to see someone that does only public even talking about leaderboards 🤣

[obtuse chasm]

Wow top 2 count a little higher

[slow olive]

Friendly reminder that Shifting Gates and Legendary Campaign share the same weapon focus

[modest tiger]

Pls play with me

I want to get to 1000 data submitted

[rose wasp]

Any one know if top android devices will ever get 120fps on D Rising

[sharp talon]

nerf helhest

[sullen depot]

And also sparrow racing for some reason

[remote grove]

Oo imma hit the track

[pine verge]

Helhest promax incoming

[slow olive]

Sorry but I can't I am on a variety grind rn

[elder wing]

Tbh lol whoever has efri wont complain anymore

[bitter estuary]

other than some redmagic devices, iphone 17 and up or snapdragon 8 gen 5/dimensity 9500 or newer

[pine verge]

Helhest still goated over efri cuz support

[sharp talon]

did they patch arby bug? nangle tried to do it earlier in cordon and it didnt work

[elder wing]

Ohh 100% but efri is more fun to play

[cobalt beacon]

they said they did

[neat valley]

efri is hotter and better than helhest

[elder wing]

Nah lol they haven’t foxed TLW yet

[elder wing]

Did they????

[rose wasp]

So i don't know tech but s25 ultra has snap dragons right

[sharp talon]

hh was getting demolished in todays cordon 😭

[remote grove]

Woaaah now 🤣

[neat valley]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[indigo solar]

78 - Crimson x1, BP x1
75 - BP x1
72 - Crimson x10, BP x9, TLW x2, unknown x1

[elder wing]

No salvo no party

[pine verge]

Always funny to see HH get obliterated

[neat valley]

efri can output more consistent dps

[cobalt beacon]

couple updates ago

[neat valley]

and survive more than helhest

[obtuse chasm]

And who’s on top of bp?

#4 what’s he using again?

[elder wing]

Nooo waaaay… that why she feels a bit bad? 😫

[indigo solar]

Oh so what the #1 top player uses is the best gun?

[pine verge]

Buddy u arent going to convince them just give it up

[indigo solar]

Then BP is best gun for cordon

You can't have it both ways

[sullen depot]

Lol this argument is literally brick vs brick wall. Both builds are literally valid if built towards them

[sharp talon]

No, last word is better on efrideet

[elder wing]

Nah this argument is just pointless at this point..

[obtuse chasm]

Again, talking from experience or what you see on leaderboards?

[neat valley]

I DONT CARE WHICH GUN IS BETTER, JUST USE THE ONE YOU LIKE

[indigo solar]

If it's which one is generally best on leaderboards, BP wins. If it's what the #1 player uses, BP wins for cordon and is worse for expanse

[modest tiger]

They both used money on diff guns so they’re arguing to cope which one is better so they feel valid in purchases

[remote grove]

I use legendary handcannon

[indigo solar]

Using your claim that Crimson is better since the #1 expanse efri uses it

[obtuse chasm]

I have both maxed

[elder wing]

Brooo he plays public event! Let it goooooo

[pine verge]

I think taniks was right off rip. Theyre just better at different things. Close enough to where it really doesnt make that big of a difference

[sharp talon]

make eternal death shoot faster pls netease

[pine verge]

Crimson is more accessible and also more versatile so theres that advantage

[indigo solar]

Yep, but they disagreed immediately, realised they're wrong but are unwilling to back down

[obtuse chasm]

He never said they were close he said one was better

[indigo solar]

At boss damage

Which it is

Objectively

[modest tiger]

Ppl with 1 brain cell know TED is a boss weapon and crimson if trash mobs are the goal

[sullen depot]

If u build crimson with the 40% primary damage mod on ur sniper rifle u pop off big with it. TED allows u to pop of with ur sniper cuz of the debuff. Literally they both work

[neat valley]

thats the main benefit, its easier for f2p to get crimson than it is the bp handcannon

[pine verge]

He said it is better under specific conditions. Which it is. Crimson is better under other conditions. Aka, it is close. He is also demonstrating that over and over again.

[twilit thistle]

I mean if we are talking shifting gates, I would like to know how to get the god roll for this 🥺👉👈

[indigo solar]

No, what genarrows uses has to be the best, any leaderboards supporting that are proof and the ones not supporting it are irrelevant

[modest tiger]

Please play with me in shifting gates

[indigo solar]

Just loot it from an Iko bot you kill

The ones they drop one tap

[pine verge]

Is this what that ikora bot takes souls with lmao

[remote grove]

Hornbill killbill

[neat valley]

nah there weapons are lvl 1

[frozen tree]

Crimson bros there’s no need to try and validate your decision, both are great guns better in specific scenarios

[slow olive]

While Helhest has that tightsuit, Efrideet is just mommy

[slow olive]

Izanagi bros are the ones who need it the most

Old Perfect bros can go bury themselves

[obtuse chasm]

He’s saying it’s better because the 1 top leaderboard player is using it, nothing he is saying is based off of his own knowledge or actual testing, shooting range means nothing when we’re talking about cordon

[modest tiger]

😭

[indigo solar]

Careful, Killothy will come in and say borealis is best

[neat valley]

Time to make some art for efrideet, I’ll be back in a sec yall

[slow olive]

Last Word is synonymous with Jaren to go anywhere

[frozen tree]

I’ve not seen any izanagi efri’s in the wild

[obtuse chasm]

Hopefully we never do

[slow olive]

Oh? You mean the better arbalest?

But the worst exotic sniper?

[modest tiger]

I will use it

[frozen tree]

Go for it I ain’t dropping the resources for it

[pine verge]

I saw an izzy efri

[frozen tree]

I’d rather build cloudstrike for her than izi

[modest tiger]

It was me

[slow olive]

You should practice her autoloading strat