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[obtuse chasm]

Lumenites is my biggest complaint

[slow olive]

ADD THEM TO STRIKES

[candid phoenix]

These?

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah makes no sense why they took them out

[slow olive]

Yes back then I swear they were raid obtainable

[pine verge]

Ascension cells being so hard to find is super obnoxious

[obtuse chasm]

Because they were

[neon pebble]

Agreed, Iron Bar has needed a rework since Launch. I will say it does drop 2 mythic weapons on a win each match and I have snagged some G Rolls that way so far 👀

[slow olive]

Putting an artificial barrier for endgame power levels obviously

[candid phoenix]

Yeah these were in onslaught, other ppl are thinking you meant the infusion cores for exotics

[slow olive]

WE ARE GOING TO CURSE THE DEVS AND NETEASE BY EXTENSION STARTING TODAY

EMOJI'S ARE JUST MODERN HIEROGLYPHICS WITH ENOUGH PRACTICE I COULD PROBABLY CURSE THEM WITH MILD RASHES

[pine verge]

Iron bar just needs more incentive, and a pinnacle pvp activity alongside it thats weekend only(im sure you know exactly what im talking about). Add a wishlist to iron bar that is similar to morgans prey to farm various materials

[thorny frost]

Yea most people I believe refer to the bottles as exotic cores, my bad.

[slow olive]

They need to make Iron Bar a legitimate pvp activity

[pine verge]

Iron bar is lowkey fun but no one is going to do it bc singularity chaos is the only activity in the game fr

[obtuse chasm]

3v3 team deathmatch, 6 person free for all, trials… any one of those will fix the queues 12 people is to much for the amount of actual PvP players

[thorny frost]

Add shifting gates currency to Iron bar

[slow olive]

Basically D2 crucible

[pine verge]

But then no one will do shifting gates u want people to do both

[obtuse chasm]

Basically

[slow olive]

Oh god they're making us wait for Papa Shaxx to drop aren't they?

[neon pebble]

Iron Bar needs to go all week. The incentive is fun, its pvp. I have no idea what a pinnacle pvp activity is btw if its from d1 or d2 I didnt play em

[slow olive]

Such it the curse of gambit

[thorny frost]

You do it in lower quantities, but allowing pvpers to choose some upgrade mats would be beneficial. Do it in like 10 so it will take quite a bit longer, but still get something.

Right now Sparrow racing basically gives better rewards

[slow olive]

I just had a thought

What if they remove weapon perk rarities?

Sure there are certain perks that overlap with other (why are there two rarities of ricochet rounds)

But I just wonder tho

[neon pebble]

Its super easy, no planning. Watch minimap, use your sound to listen for bots attacking mobs. Dont stand still, pvp 101. Also spam jump

[pine verge]

In d2 pvp is all week, with the weekend being trials. Trials are pinnacle pvp activity with loot only accessible from trials.

Regular pvp also has guns only accessible from pvp.

Tons of people play pvp just to get a gun, and stay because its fun. Nobody is going to try iron bar with no incentive because the general playerbase in games like this just chase rewards. U gotta give them incentives to get them to load into the activity

[slow olive]

Skorri better haul her ahh with Iron Bar exclusive guns

Better yet the devs better hurry up with blessing us with Lord Shaxx's glory

[neon pebble]

This playerbase cries about PvP, its sad. PvP players were actively bashed for enjoying PvP 🤣

[slow olive]

Give us a Luna's Howl

A Mountain Top

[twilit thistle]

[thorny frost]

Eh, there would still be ones that stand out either way. Having 9 choices most with perks (if you don’t add the extra perks while removing rariety it would be more annoying), will increase grind and be more likely to cause balancing issues. In general I don’t mind the idea of more flexability tho, just not sure if 9 is to much.

[slow olive]

A Felwinters Lie

[pine verge]

"No planning", then you describe planning lol. I'm not saying it's hard to deal with. I'm saying it's punishing if you don't deal with it. Which is unsurprising from players who never encountered the wrath of the ikora bot

[slow olive]

Osiris can go lose his light to the hive early

[neon pebble]

You learn 3 easy routes, no planning. 3 maps always the same in SG. They havnt changed them since launch.

[slow olive]

Ts is why I always wonder if they should remove perk rarities

Like I want to run deadly warrant but the discrepancy between it and a mythic perk is too big

[pine verge]

Every mixed playerbase will have that. PvE players hate being "forced" into PvP because they dont like losing. This has been my experience across every game with both so far lol. Still though fostering a strong pvp community is good for longevity

[neon pebble]

You can get to enemys data terminal before they do and jump em if you do it right

[slow olive]

Flash Mob is arguably a better version of Glutton but the former is a legendary perk

[twilit thistle]

If only they’d close it for a season to work on it. and give us those maps for iron bar

[pine verge]

That is planning bro

Simple plan yes but thats the point. First time you play you wont have a plan

[slow olive]

Wait did bro just say map knowledge ain't deep?

[thorny frost]

If they got rid of rarities I would say they would need to lower the amount of choices on guns. Give each gun maybe 5 choices each slot, definitely not 9.

[slow olive]

6-7 (not memeing I am serious abt this)

[pine verge]

Hopefully they fix the issues with core activities and do some advertising to get in some fresh meat or this game is cooked

[neon pebble]

If you cant handle that simple task then im sorry my dude. This is why bots killed SG, vets couldnt teach noobs anymore. Planning is the PvE and data routes I was working on. These 3 routes are just simply the best path to take at the start. Left or right path? Thats how simple it is

[slow olive]

First of all they should nuke the majority of rare perks and keep some classics like Focused Fury and Threat Detector

[thorny frost]

6 might work, 7 is getting up to 48 different combinations (assuming all viable) that is a lot of farming for double perks.

[slow olive]

There is no worse fate for a mobile game than mobile game ads

They're going to make Kabr 1.0 the butt of all jokes

[pine verge]

I think you've completely missed what I am trying to convey

[slow olive]

It would incentivize people to hoard more weapons combos

Because Deadly Warrant + Searing Mark would be epic

[thorny frost]

Inventory space would desperately need to be able to be increased

[slow olive]

Shotguns with Threat Detector + Opening shot with be more prevalent

[pine verge]

Yeah they need better chase for weapons fr

[slow olive]

1k storage space for guns please

[pine verge]

I like the way they handle adept perks a lot

Better than d2 fr

[slow olive]

I like perk bonuses being random

[neon pebble]

I dont

[slow olive]

I hate the fact that perk levels are RNG

[thorny frost]

With 7 perks we might need like 5k by the end XD.

[vagrant depot]

What did I join on lol

[thorny frost]

I barely notice the perk level as by the time I am attempt to make them adept they all seem to get to level 5.

[slow olive]

Preparation before we curse Rising devs for being cheeks with the game

[twilit thistle]

Are you sure? || play this for 30 minutes to earn X||

[pine verge]

yapping about fixing the core issues in the game

[slow olive]

You know damn well what type of ads I'm talking about

[pine verge]

Idk man ai slop d rising ads would go hard

[thorny frost]

I always find those amusing, we will actively try to get you to try other games for currency… like what if that game is better?

[pine verge]

Need some mafia style ads omegalul

[slow olive]

Imagine an ad where Wolf inconspicuously spies on a crouching Helhest

[pine verge]

Now youre cooking

[neon pebble]

Fr

[slow olive]

Would we peak if Rising ads were all Gwynn hornybait?

[pine verge]

Replace gwynn with kabr

[neon pebble]

We dont want those players

[slow olive]

No wait Helhest's in a skintight leathersuit

[neon pebble]

They all dont play the game and cry about it the hardest

[candid phoenix]

That's when we had peak playercount

[signal spade]

We need those players and a full rp version of Haven

[pine verge]

Yes you do bro lol

Unless u want eos

[neon pebble]

No we dont

[signal spade]

With nightclubs and player housing

[stark forge]

summer is close where are my bikini cosmetics

[signal spade]

Spring break tan 2 coming soon

[neon pebble]

We play with bots now, lets not play with people worse than bots 😭

[golden wigeon]

Best mobile shooter rn imo

[slow olive]

Yannick - 11 asmr ads are where it's at

[thorny frost]

I feel this, at least bots do mechanics

Most of the time

[neon pebble]

Couldn't have been better said

[slow olive]

DPS race is another story

[golden wigeon]

Mechanics ?

[neon pebble]

Bots kwtd

[pine verge]

You need all levels of skill to play pvp not just "good" players. Players worse than bots playing is unironically good. I want the guys who boot up to shoot at other players and botwalk for fun to play d rising too

[slow olive]

Still pissy over the raid race where ZERO PEOPLE KNOWS WHAT TO DO

[thorny frost]

The new vex blitz tho, I had 2 bots running back and forth with the orbs lol. First time the bots killed me due to mechs in this game.

[pine verge]

A lot of those people will learn eventually too anyways

[stark forge]

pray for those still farming wardcliff out there

[slow olive]

The cabal boss and the vex wall in the new blitz singlehandedly make both psuedo-raids the worst activities

[thorny frost]

Honestly I don’t mind carrying most players, but there is truth that some people won’t read and figure out mechs which is annoying. I have been carrying people almost each of my Cordons runs today, which is fine.

[slow olive]

Thank goodness thunderlord dropped for me 1st try in the raid encounter

No I am not grinding for 3 more

[neon pebble]

You know I thought that also for a long time. It applies to PvE also though not just PvP. Noob lobbies are the most boring and can lead to extreme sloppy play after enough repitition

[slow olive]

Welcome to Destiny. Nobody does mechanics

[twilit thistle]

Usually you’ll get malware, or be used as a view bot for various websites (not jut streaming) to fake traffic if you click the links

[neon pebble]

Lol "I can see they are trying their hardest, thats whats so dissapointing"

[thorny frost]

I have been gone for to long, haven’t played Destiny since the beginning of Destiny 1. Rising got me back (mainly due to phone)

[stark forge]

what is mechanics ? just blast all the enemies until team gets wiped

[thorny frost]

This… doesn’t surprise me, I have never tried them but the concept always amused me.

[slow olive]

"I just watched a guide on youtube" well did the guide tell you you can throw the ball in the first encounter? Did the guide tell you to accompany the buff carrier during the raid race? Did the guide tell you that time is key in the raid race?

[pine verge]

Noob literally comes from the term "newbie". We were all newbies once. Being hostile to newcomers is a great way to kill your game. Noob lobbies are good. Strikes, iron bar, shifting gates, etc all need noob lobbies to function.

Im sure netease is aware of this as they run marvel rivals and wwm

[thorny frost]

“You can do it little guys! Just toss the orb!”

[neon pebble]

The Olay ones were peak, I bought Olay for the misses and got some free game currency. Win win

[slow olive]

Don't blame the good ones. Blame the specific parts of the community who target newbies for their ego

[pine verge]

Not sure what u mean

[slow olive]

But y'know what still sucks

Duds who don't know mechanics

[neon pebble]

I think you misunderstand. Its no good for me to go 20/2 against noobs in PvP... it demoralizes them espec when you do it to them game after game

[slow olive]

PASS THE BALL TO ME YOU CAN THROW IT WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME

[neon pebble]

I partake in the new light/mentor system and carry new lights in group PvE content

[pine verge]

Yea whole other problem compounded with low engagement

[stark forge]

i miss the new light shooting wrong weakpoint in issakis

[neon pebble]

Whos left? 💀

[slow olive]

I can never blame them for wipes

I just hate the quitters tho

[neon pebble]

In Shifty Gates top50, we could make top 3man premades log off for the night

Imagine what it does to noobs

[obtuse chasm]

Can’t stand Kabr mains 😔

[pine verge]

Noob lobbies should just be noobs though

[neon pebble]

Wow Korean slurs right in main chat

[pine verge]

Occasionally a good player in there

[neon pebble]

No ranking in Irom Bar, its a casual mode

[bitter estuary]

why til eternal death so good

on jaren

[pine verge]

Yea I know. Bad idea.

Why im yapping about them needing to fix it

[neon pebble]

+20% dmg per stack, think it applies to abilities also

[bitter estuary]

is bro so bad he also got outdamaged and mogged by a t0 efrideet too

[bitter estuary]

ik its so good

[neon pebble]

Tbf, crimson vs symmetry 🤣

[bitter estuary]

2* crimson vs 4* symmetry im crine

[neon pebble]

Bro couldnt afford to go out to eat, no Arbys for him

[stark forge]

bro just plant barrier and watch

[slow olive]

I mean

[bitter estuary]

the way they got double 4* and prolly nicely refactored artis yet got mogged by a newbie t0 efrideet

[slow olive]

That is the Kabr playstyle. 1.0 and 2.0 aren't even different

[pine verge]

Problem is kabr is just slow

[slow olive]

I still don't mind this Efrideet takeover when it comes to damage

[pine verge]

Movespeed diff is crazy

[slow olive]

Imagine being the only hunter without a mobility dodge in their kit lmfao

[pine verge]

Not even just damage

[slow olive]

Helhest has zero movement for a hunter

[pine verge]

Hh has 40% movement speed

And she gives it to everyone

[sullen depot]

original HH ability included a propel movement to her drones apparently but it got scrapped

[slow olive]

Wolf has slash, Ning's entire kit is movement bursts, Umeko has double dash, Jaren has dodges, and Efrideet has mini-dashes

THIS IS WHY HELHEST IS MID GRAAAAAGH

[neon pebble]

Whats double 4star mean?

[slow olive]

4* upgraded on both slots

[neon pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[slow olive]

Both primary and power weapons are tier 90's and are upgraded to 4 stars

[neon pebble]

Ohhh that makes sense

New system sucks

[slow olive]

See those golden orbs below them?

[slow olive]

Does the grind suck or the system suck?

[stark forge]

material cap sucks

[neon pebble]

Both were way easier when we had pinnacle

[slow olive]

Limited everyday tho

[neon pebble]

You arnt limited now?

[slow olive]

I'd take this new system over the artificial blockage

[neon pebble]

How many runs you gotta do now?

[slow olive]

As much to our hearts content

[pine verge]

Pinnacle being removed was a good choice

[sullen depot]

u had to decide on what to use ur pinnacle on. here you can run whatever u want

[neon pebble]

To full max a groll weapon how many runs it take now?

[slow olive]

Welcome to Destiny. You can sacrifice your nuts and get an Solidarity/Eager aspirant roll

[pine verge]

Oh no I have to play the game I launched lol

Aint even that bad

[slow olive]

Breaking news

[stark forge]

200-300 engrams maybe

[neon pebble]

You could run whatever you wanted before with reduced rewards when out of pinnacle 😭

[slow olive]

Gacha player finds out you can play to your hearts content

[slow olive]

Thats the problem chico

[cyan tide]

Before the update there was no reason to play strikes/blitz. Weapon farming was nonexistent

[slow olive]

Massively reduced resources

[pine verge]

the reduced rewards were reduced by so much I couldnt be bothered to play the game

[neon pebble]

Dodged the question with a lame insult 🤣 you know it takes longer now

[pine verge]

Eventually I just stopped playing entirely

[sullen depot]

yeah lemme run chaos on that 9% chance for exotic after im done my pinnacle? thats def better than the 30% we have now huh

[neon pebble]

Rewards now arnt much better since the entire grind changed with it.

[slow olive]

Breaking news: Gacha player can't wrap their head around the fact that their grind isn't artificially timegated and wants it back

[stark forge]

even if u dont wanna play strikes weekly engram synthesis should give u a bunch of rolls to forge

[cyan tide]

Pretty sure base rewards was like 3% chance to get am exotic

[slow olive]

Is it just me or are foundry specific engrams giving a lore more double mythics?

[pine verge]

I play games to have fun I dont mind playing some activities to improve the gun I dropped

[twilit thistle]

💀 I like that battle pass weapons drop at 70 still. Not only do you need to upgrade the level with ascension cells, you also have to get it up to 5 stars. Ontop of the existing cost

[neon pebble]

Breaking news: bros game fit his time schedule for last 7 months why it have to change time dynamics from 30mins a day to be relevant to 3hours+ a day?

[slow olive]

Should be 80's ngl

[thorny frost]

They shifted a lot of the grind to weapons. I haven’t decided how much of an annoyance that is yet, as those are still shared once we get our sets it won’t be as extreme as right now.

[pine verge]

As long as it isnt too egregious. Which so far it mostly isnt. Worst is legendary campaign and singularity chaos. Improving weapons is fine

[slow olive]

You have no idea how much better I can juggle multiple games with my life

Hello? Freedom to grind your shii? What's horrifying about that?

[neon pebble]

Its the difference in amount of grind needed. This isnt Destiny this is a mobile game 💀

[slow olive]

*Destiny Mobile game

Welcome to MMORPG LOOTER SHOOTERS

[pine verge]

U can play 3 hours or 30 mins. People who grind the most get dunked on by phase system this early on anyways

[thorny frost]

He is more looking at it as a time vs reward concept. Which is a fair analysis. It was why I was worried about them removing pinnacle. If the grind to get an item is a lot longer then it is not as respectful to our time.

[neon pebble]

Destiny Gacha Mobile game

[slow olive]

YOU SHOOT AND YOU LOOT

[cyan tide]

You can play a different game if DR doesn't fit your schedule anymore. There's a lot of mobile games that are aimed at more casual players, DR changed to a more grind focused game because that's what most of the playerbase wanted

[stark forge]

we were begging to grind to our hearts months ago now we dont want to grind 😭

[thorny frost]

I don’t think we have gotten to bad tho, most grinds got easier to get to 90+% it is really mythic weapons that are questionable.

[pine verge]

Who's we bro lol

[sullen depot]

majority of the player base who complained about nothing to do lol

[neon pebble]

Expanse requirements and the slow phases are slaying me

[twilit thistle]

I just hope they address the mistakes. Like locking F2P out of most activities, and worsening the bp weapon struggles.

[slow olive]

Oh please it gets much worse with other games

[pine verge]

Expanse only required if u wanna keep up. Otherwise 1 phase behind if casually playing

[thorny frost]

I don’t like how far some of the content are thrown out there >.> I want to see what prestige onslaught is like, but seriously phase 8?

[slow olive]

You can grind the BP weapon in like 2 weeks average

[pine verge]

same

[slow olive]

Well Destiny does have a knack of timegating

[twilit thistle]

Spoiler: || harder onslaught ||

[neon pebble]

Why we being phased like launch? They are making the grind even slower but you have to grind to phase 🤔

[slow olive]

Then again people love to optimize the hell out of their playtime

[pine verge]

Honestly the power diff is too much

[thorny frost]

I don’t mind time gating, it just seems way to close to the end of a season, then will it get removed till next phase 8?

[neon pebble]

Does the phase reset to 1 each season?

[pine verge]

Probably

[twilit thistle]

Right? Like let them play with us just make them suck

[cyan tide]

There's a lot to address but I genuinely think that the game is in a better spot now. Everything is better for the most part imo, there's just some hiccups here and there that genuinely worsen the experience (time gating mostly)

[thorny frost]

I assume so, not sure what all resets with it. I doubt the stars on our weapons/artifacts do, but I know Emanare will

[pine verge]

Emanare will reset and artifacts will be made irrelevant as the lvl cap increases. Hopefully they allow leveling artis from 90 to 100

[sullen depot]

if they completely took away time gating yall will grind this game and then complain of nothing to do and get burnt out

the time gating helps. it just needs to be reduced a bit

[stark forge]

probably raise lv cap again and farm new star tier

[neon pebble]

Its gating gear stars and upgrades 💀

[thorny frost]

My hope is level increase is like major updates only. Give us one season in between.

[slow olive]

Trust me. Nothing will still appease the playerbase

[twilit thistle]

Just economy issues 🫠 and cuz this stuff will lead to burnout (other than Chaos)

[cyan tide]

I don't think they'll raise the gear cap again, wouldn't make sense to do so when star tiers are gonna reset at the end of the season

[slow olive]

We're too split just like rn there's probably a silent large chunk of the playerbase who wishes the energy system would return

[little lotus]

Any news on global server merge?

[sullen depot]

no confirmation of star tiers resetting yet. its a speculation. only thing confirmed to reset is emanare

[neon pebble]

We have under 10k playerbase, thats generous

[pine verge]

I think time gating is fine too for the most part. Problem is the core activities are so bad no one plays them still. Id like to see people doing pvp strikes morgans prey etc instead of just doing singularity all day

[neon pebble]

The MS between servers has balanced out alot. It seems like it will be soon

[little lotus]

That would be awesome to see.

[slow olive]

Again, greater emphasis on the existence of fireteam finder

NOT FOCUS, just greater emphasis on its existence

[neon pebble]

I was under 100ms in emea Iron Bar steady 75

[thorny frost]

We might have 20k, I believe that is how many likes Great hunt had, and if Netease was going to bot that up I would expect a lot higher XD.

[pine verge]

Yeah that needs a tutorial

[little lotus]

Current numbers on the servers is okay, but global server merge would have the game feeling populated and alive again.

[slow olive]

Barring PvP the greatest hurdle here is the lack of fireteam availability

[slow olive]

TRUST ME YOU DO NOT LIKE TO GET PAIRED UP WITH SOMEONE ACROSS THE GLOBE

[little lotus]

It should still prioritize players closest to your location.

[neon pebble]

Its possible, would be nice if game grew. Maybe it included CN?

[slow olive]

ITS A TRAP DESTINY 2 SHOWCASES THIS IMAGINE GETTING A PISS POOR SHIFTING GATES BECAUSE THE NING FEI WAS PLAYING ON SOUTH KOREAN SERVERS

[twilit thistle]

I don’t think it’s possible, I think there arent enough players left to make a meaningful impact. Or they woulda done it this season. Also ppl kept blaming ping for being bad at the game when the first mergers happened, and I worry this could also be holding it back.

[neon pebble]

I was on EMEA 75 ms no problems and im in NA

[thorny frost]

It was just NA/Latam as it was in game (and EU had a different count)

[pine verge]

Cn has gotta be seperate. Cn players can play on global if they want though. Im playing from cn

[neon pebble]

Most weekends im 125-175

The servers seem to have balanced out

[true basin]

Anyone getting tier 5 drops?

[neon pebble]

Even when I did experience 300ms it wasnt "horrible" a slight delay

[thorny frost]

#💭│main-chat message found someone who screenshotted it, and EU is under it.

[twilit thistle]

For weapons and artifacts yes.

[neon pebble]

Maybe its finally rising? Alot of people came back to see S4 rework though too

[slow olive]

I just realized making Zavala 4* first would make sense

Arc Rapid fire pls bungo

[twilit thistle]

||🔻 ||

[thorny frost]

We will have to wait till after April to check downloads and stuff. The content creators I did see talking about it has been praising the new raid and changes. So maybe that has helped

[twilit thistle]

Reason we are working on a Wiki is bc most players get so confused they quit 😔

[neon pebble]

It's bad, i have to do alot of pve just to get my perks on weapons for pvp

These new 10 engrams only a week is crap

[stark forge]

why not buy 300 engrams under it

[little lotus]

Nice, Iron Pledge event starts after maintenance 04/16 – 05/07. If you are pvp player in APAC/EMEA dm me to join Showdown.

[neon pebble]

Rng

[neon pebble]

Iron pledge?

[stark forge]

thats 300 chances to adept ur weapons

[little lotus]

Looks like a new pvp event for titles, lumia, and other rewards.

Showdown has most of the top pvp players for APAC/EMEA.

[neon pebble]

Furken still playing?

Nunukid also?

[little lotus]

Yeah, he’s on.

Nunu is too.

Teemos.

[neon pebble]

Those guys were good

[little lotus]

We’re chill.

Yeah, after the servers merged we also pulled the top players from EMEA.

I’m sure our members will be running the event a lot.

[neon pebble]

I see alot of new faces or people changed names on NA

[little lotus]

Yeah, I have been seeing new names here too. Which is good, but other players have also left.

[neon pebble]

They will come back eventually. Maybe they will fix Shifty Gates soon

Fix SG I will stop all my crying and patiently wait for new content

Or iron bar leaderboard and 24/7 availability

[vast arch]

Ning putting in work on impact/rapid side of cordon lmao

[little lotus]

I imagine if this Iron Pledge event is active enough they will make those changes to Iron Bar. Crossing fingers.

Leaderboards for Iron Pledge would be nice.

[twilit thistle]

@cobalt beacon come carry ur pack mates 🥺

🤷🏼‍♀️ worth a shot

[vast arch]

I can't matchmake any more because I don't have anyone over 94k 😭

[misty marsh]

[misty marsh]

spend like one overnight doing essences. also grab any overcharge things u can get

[twilit thistle]

😔 Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] said there was no way.

[misty marsh]

[desert ravine]

Why there is new fish in game, but there isn't new fishing spot?

[twilit thistle]

It’s ok I got this

They literally just die and respawn repeatedly. Using up the total revives in the process

[dim cave]

Im checking out the event stuff and all that and I see that the wordless watch ends in 8 hours. should I use the hidden bon voyage charms on it before it goes away or not? (New player btw dont flame me)

[signal spade]

if you want ikora yes, if you dont want ikora no

the charms will become blue charms tomorrow

[dim cave]

oh ok gotcha

[signal spade]

ikora also becomes permanent tomorrow

[bleak pelican]

gl

[dim cave]

I mean I don't really want ikora but idk if shes good or not towards later game content

[signal spade]

every character is worth having at least 1 base copy of in my opinion though since thats all you need for raid

[dim cave]

Im only at chapter 3 in the story atm

[signal spade]

how many hidden charms do you have

[dim cave]

well I only have 20 of those charms atm so dont even know if I will get her to drop

[signal spade]

yea id just hold off then cause if you dont get her youll be double screwed

[dim cave]

👍

What can you use the blue charms on? other events or something else entirely

[signal spade]

the permanent banner with ning/tan/kabr/joldr

and then tomorrow ikora joins it too

[dim cave]

Ok thanks for the info appreciate it

[signal spade]

yep

[rain plinth]

And there goes my idea for a Gwynn build

[thorny frost]

Thank you for yours (and who else is working on it) time in putting together a wiki for newer/players who have questions.

[severe wedge]

Looking for pack that plays around this time

[thorny frost]

If they just broke the shinkas it wouldn’t be so bad XD

[fiery marsh]

@thorny frost hey tac, can you do a dmg test with heir apparent on your estela?

Using super and abilities for 15 or so seconds on a servitor?

[thorny frost]

Sure. I know my damage isn’t quite as high as you guys who was testing them this morning.

[fiery marsh]

Yeah some guys said furies lll is garbage xD and my build was all wrong

[thorny frost]

I will give it a test. I don’t think furies is garbage from my earlier test in season 4. It wasn’t quite as high as Heir but had its use if running modes where you ran out of heavy.

[fiery marsh]

Idk if was testing with another buddy who ran with heir and did similar damage numbers.

Only caveat was after around 120 shots, gotta reload cancel and it falls off a bit from that

[thorny frost]

O also as a note my current build with her supports Heir slightly more, as 3rd slot blazer enhances explosions and accidents while Pact didn’t (just found my controller logging on now).

[fiery marsh]

The new mods makes Furies lll hit pretty hard

[teal cairn]

Hey does anyone know if there's a way for me to farm hidden charms L.E.?

[obtuse chasm]

This is the worst possible take I’ve ever heard

[fiery marsh]

I tested both god roll blazar, bellicose pact and inverted fury... got the same results in damage on all 3 artifacts

So ill find some other use cases with inverted fury. Maybe for popping elemental shields faster?

And during boss phase, if it hits similar dps numbers, then its kinda a tough call which 3rd slot is better

[twilit thistle]

Finalla better carry this time

[upbeat forge]

Is Finnala any good?

[twilit thistle]

Do you want me to rip the bandaid off?

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[fiery marsh]

You got the dmg

[cobalt beacon]

Lock in

[twilit thistle]

The weapon is such a small % of her dmg we don’t even use artifacts with it on it for her. It’s all about rate of fire

Best Estella showed me this artifact

[upbeat forge]

So Heir Apparent deals more dmg than Thunderlord?

[fiery marsh]

I think with super, the meter generation for spam summons are equal for the 13 second duration no matter running heir, thunderlords or even furies.

Its the only thing I can surmise when me and a pack mate tested the damage

[twilit thistle]

I think Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] went super bc of the perk. It depends on content tbh, for lower level activities this could actually be worse. For expanse it’s goated

[fiery marsh]

When you see the dmg at the 15 second mark, thunderlords and furies lll hit the same damage

20 mil in 15 seconds

[twilit thistle]

Thunderlord sucks. I call it exotic bvd4

Heir provides overshield, that’s why I pick it. I’ve cleared rooms just hiding and spamming summons with it wound up.

[twilit thistle]

🥹 for once i was close

[neon pebble]

7 hours 29 minutes

[thorny frost]

Here are my three tests (I need to work on reload canceling not with skills), and my build. The higher dps furies was with increased magazine capacity, while the lower had RoF mod on the other weapon.

Even tho Furies is lower dps, I see uses in it, specially when queing with randoms. If I run out of heavy ammo I am SoL, I am currently working on getting a god roll Machine gun to compare those damage to Heir to see if they are close enough to warrant sustain over burst.

[fiery marsh]

Did you get energy conversion mod for 40% primary damage?

[indigo solar]

The new mods are the reason why Furies is more competitive

[thorny frost]

Right I should show my off gun mods now

[twilit thistle]

In the expanse you will be cooked tho cuz ur just breaking overshields on some stages.

[fiery marsh]

Im using those for my thunder lords too

[indigo solar]

yeah run double mag + energy conversion

[twilit thistle]

I love the void pulse tbh, with frat.

[fiery marsh]

But for mythic LMG, and furies lll.

Double mag + energy conversion

[neon pebble]

You get the dmg to ele shieldnand shinka mod yet?

[thorny frost]

That is why the machine gun has to cover the shields and shinka (so 900rof) then you have to use Furies for the kills. When on light tho heavy ammo isn’t as big of an issue in expands, mainly when under light I could see it.

[fiery marsh]

68 in the mag for over 120 shots b4 empty and total of 80% weapon dmg from energy conversion mod + 3rd catalyst upgrade

[indigo solar]

I don't think so but haven't checked

[north chasm]

Is it time to play this game again

[thorny frost]

Yea I need to get the slightly better double mag, but that is what I was finding. And Taniks looks to agree with us on it too.

[neon pebble]

It makes me wondee if its enough to pop Shinkas with a primary

[fiery marsh]

Im using mythic LMG for shinkas and different elemental shields types

[indigo solar]

If someone has it I would appreciate if they could test whether it increases damage to rapid shields

[fiery marsh]

Only for that for LMG and using Furies as my main damage

[indigo solar]

going from 1 or 2 damage to 2 or 3 would be huge

[twilit thistle]

🤷🏼‍♀️ I like to sprint very fast to the cheese spot, where I cower and let the summons take care of the rest

[fiery marsh]

Running bdvk, it can hit 4 dmg per bullet

[thorny frost]

In the end I see a use for both builds, but they will cover different teams/modes. If you have an HH and a great team Heir will probably win out, if you are helping others/if they ever release a game mode where heavy ammo is more scarce Furies will be good.

[fiery marsh]

Or 3 dmg depending on content

On shinkas

[thorny frost]

You know what… that is a fair XD I do that with the Servitor boss

[indigo solar]

yeah but does the mod change it

[fiery marsh]

Im using energy conversion for furies lll dmg buff

[twilit thistle]

I also always run the first stages with heir so when I die a bunch I can swap to the correct element of machine gun. Cuz the game doesn’t actually compensate for mag size changes, and I get to use gallows with 200 round in the mag

[fiery marsh]

That mod on the mythic LMG buffs furies

[indigo solar]

yeah

[indigo solar]

but this was the question

agreed that energy conversion is best for furies in general

[fiery marsh]

I only use LMG for shinkas and different elemental types.

Cause furies lll out dpses all mythic LMGs anyways

[indigo solar]

yes

[fiery marsh]

So no point in using mythics other than shinka and elemental coverage

[indigo solar]

but does the shinka damage mod affect how much damage is done to rapid shields

[thorny frost]

Wish this wasn’t a third slot mod, but I am going to so try it with Misfortune confetti on BVD4. Might turn the gun into an AOE room clear if it works on the ricochet bullets…If I can find a time that is necessary.

[fiery marsh]

No, but bvdk already hits 3 dmg in harder content at base vs shinkas

And others hit 2 dmg but at 900 ROF

This is without the shinka damage mod

[indigo solar]

have you tested it or are you assuming

[fiery marsh]

I ran cordons so yet

Yes

[indigo solar]

with the shinka mod?

[fiery marsh]

No shinka mod

[indigo solar]

then no, you didn't test the shinka mod

[fiery marsh]

Id rather buff furies lll dmg

[indigo solar]

yes

but we'd like to know if the shinka mod buffs rapid damage anyways

[fiery marsh]

You dont need the shinka mod in harder content

[indigo solar]

it's good info to know

[fiery marsh]

Kinda a waste of a slot imo

[twilit thistle]

I’ll max it if u need Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] I have like 7 of those mods just sitting there bc I prefer my old god rolls 😂

[fiery marsh]

Same dude x.x

I recycled all my regular mods too

Just to roll some god rolls

[twilit thistle]

Sacrilege

They are all so useful now 😭 every unique one

[indigo solar]

maxing isn't necessary, if you have a mythic that does 4 damage to a rapid somewhere you only need to get it to +25%

[fiery marsh]

We ran through cordons containment jolder, estela effrideet like super fast

[thorny frost]

Just need to max one at least, then all of them are leveled.

[fiery marsh]

And got S in stage 10 on Saturday xD

Jolder + estela pops rapid fire so fast together

[twilit thistle]

Who let you out of mines 😐

[fiery marsh]

This was b4 anyone could hit 100k power too xD

[thorny frost]

I am liking night over night on Jolder, but desperately needs magazine size it feels

[fiery marsh]

I got 73 in the mag

For night after night

Time marches on for sure is best perk on that SMG

Better than reccomended

Breaks shinkas much faster too

[twilit thistle]

I was stuck in the mines and barely even dented cordon.

[fiery marsh]

33% chance to consume 3 ammo for 3x dmg. So basically does 3 instances of 1x3 for 33% chance

Thats on a shinkas

[thorny frost]

Trying to get that one, only got one with both the thumbs up perks so far

Like the double mag to give more ammo for swords too

[fiery marsh]

I got the double perk upgrades on time marches on, its freaking amazing

U get 30% mag increase + 75% from second recommended perk, and 40% from double mag

[thorny frost]

I have carried 1+ a bot every time I have ran cordon this week.

[fiery marsh]

Its so nutty man

[twilit thistle]

I just saw this. Mostly me and taniks. @tight talon is kinda there. Don is there for future proofing. Mostly just taking screenshots right now, bc we dont have access to the games assets.

[thorny frost]

Yea your hard drive scares me, you would need to have the amazingly organized XD

[twilit thistle]

thats what the server we have right now is for. We have to collect the assets for it 😭

[thorny frost]

It is nice, and having her slam refill it + radiation allowing amazing uptime
For skills really is fun. She is no Jaren (or I am not as good as a player as a lot of Jaren’s) but she puts in the work

[fiery marsh]

How'd you know im running radiation?

XD!!

[twilit thistle]

Healing radiation is op, i use that one on estela

[indigo solar]

Pathetic

[fiery marsh]

I tried the regular jolder build, and it felt so clunky to use ngl..

Radiation just feels so smooth on jolder

[indigo solar]

Also the in-game camera captures show up as panoramas instead

[fiery marsh]

And the 500k shield toss damage is really nice too

[thorny frost]

I did happen to see you mention it, but I have been running it too since I think it was Gregg mentioned it and I started testing it.

[tight talon]

Kinda? I am literally smoke compared to the amount of info you guys gather

[fiery marsh]

What's your thoughts? I was the first max power radiation jolders in the server

[thorny frost]

Constant 50% reduction to skills with no hoping to get hit+ full rage stacks

[tight talon]

[fiery marsh]

Ppl made fun of me back then for running radiation back then xD

[thorny frost]

It is nice, makes her a bit more high risk high reward tho

[fiery marsh]

My old jolder before season 4 reset 🙁

[thorny frost]

If you aren’t careful I have over extended and died where I really shouldn’t have

[fiery marsh]

Abundant heals more at up to 7.5% per second

[twilit thistle]

Cute. I had to search for this one, put it on the wrong partition apparently.

[fiery marsh]

I ran abundant planetismal over healing radiation back then cause it was better

[thorny frost]

I was running blazer in first slot for damage reduction (each tick of healing into overshield after slam increased the duration).

I have never religiously farmed for her either, so she is semi subject to “good enough” artifacts

[indigo solar]

But how many of those are rising images

[fiery marsh]

Dude did you know how long it took me to farm those god rolls back then and grind 10 power per day to get max power?

5 whole freaking months cause dice didn't exist back then

[indigo solar]

Oh also

[twilit thistle]

You tell me.

[indigo solar]

I should break out my 4 different Google accounts I'm using to store footage of the game

[thorny frost]

Yea I didn’t have the time to farm 1k+ essence for three units… the new system will be nice for playing multiple units. I have basically my first set for Estela “done” just need some better basic rolls in the end. Now to switch to Jolder or HH.

[indigo solar]

Lmao

[twilit thistle]

oh if u want footage, u can search B drive which is my desginated output for litterally everything. I selected all and hit properties, and its been about 5 minutes. Found 42gb, and just hit 1 million files. Did i mention i hoard data

[thorny frost]

You guys have so much rising days between the 2 of you XD

[fiery marsh]

Jolder is definitely in the meta now

[indigo solar]

I've maxed out the 15gb storage on my personal email, this email, the insomnia email, and my apac email

[fiery marsh]

Jolder makes diffusion runs so much easier xD

[thorny frost]

The game decided she was going to be my impact unit by giving me mainly her in the permanent banner. So I am semi ready for it

[twilit thistle]

i used to record when i would go for leaderboards, like all night. Theres gonna be like hundreds of hours of me afk just standing there.

[indigo solar]

Majority of mine are the 3h+ footage from original raid races

[thorny frost]

I think I even used my first 180 pity to get my T1 Ning

[bleak pelican]

just taking a slight scroll through here

good, most ogs are still here

alright, back to my 2 week hiatus cya chat

[thorny frost]

Cya Tan-2

[twilit thistle]

Well if it gets hit with eos we will have enough to feed our ai overlords in 2040 to recreate it.

[fiery marsh]

Massboy fosho the best ning main in the server man... hes F2P and and t4 killing it in expanse

[indigo solar]

Oh cool, found a screen recording of how to recreate the first recorded oob, 4 hours after the game launched

[thorny frost]

If containment stays rapid fire/impact next season… I want to see how far I can push Jolder with 2 bots after I farm her equips. But yea I am guessing her giving team mates overshields help with the diffusion effects?

[indigo solar]

(It's the space station)

[fiery marsh]

Also she with modifiers, she takes 30% of the teams damage

[thorny frost]

Someone who mained Ning Fei from launch made some right choices. I don’t even like using him but I can’t deny this

[fiery marsh]

Have you seen massboy in the leaderboards?

Dude did the final piercing arc expanse 40 season 3 in like 3:45 with a t4 ning

Rank 1 with a t4 nung

Freaking nutty

[thorny frost]

Just looked him up, floor 60 something on expanse rapid fire currently too. Zombie Ning when he has played always I think took the lime light. I never looked at the tiers of everyone playing expanse

[fiery marsh]

Im just at awe that his ning isn't t6 yet and hes doing the impossible

[sharp talon]

is he still on expanse leaderboards?

wait oops

[fiery marsh]

Probably, that guy plays expanse religiously... if someone out ranks him, he keeps going to take the top slot

[thorny frost]

I am too naive on Ning to know how much that T5 and 6 help them. I know some Nings use their super for movement, so at least T5 should help with that part. Expanse tho I imagine super is used a bit more.

[thorny frost]

Floor 62 rapid currently

[sharp talon]

oh

[fiery marsh]

He took the #1 spot in season 3 arc precision expanse and #1 in the final calamity ops xD on a 74k power ning

In US server

[rotund flame]

Man leaderboards are so wack. You shouldn't be able to take multiple spots by teaming with certain people

[fiery marsh]

I think he was competing with gerj or smthn for that spit

Spot*

Or the Ark bois

[thorny frost]

Sad we can’t go back and look at the previous leaderboard for that which has been taken out

[fiery marsh]

Yee

But he can show off his rank 1 emblem at least...

[twilit thistle]

how do i get the king in a nutshell title

[fiery marsh]

He poached our best helhest from our pack to get that #1 ranking 🙁

[sharp talon]

complete 70 on all expanses

[thorny frost]

I do understand the team leaderboard concept… but we need a player leaderboard so it is more showing how far each person has pushed.

[sharp talon]

calamity ops title still lasts right? expanse cycle titles lasted only 20h from s4 start 🙁

[fiery marsh]

They said its going to be permanent

[sharp talon]

Bruh

[thorny frost]

That is endless seal

[fiery marsh]

Ill just keep that #33 spot 🙁 cause we couldnt get to the last shinka at 4x

[sharp talon]

i got number one on both expanses in the last expanse cycle on emea/apac , could only use it for 20h, wouldve been nice to have it for a week or more

[rotund flame]

I'm okay with single leaderboards. It's the trio ones like cordon that make no sense. I think I saw the same dude in like 3 spots lol

[thorny frost]

That is semi what I mean, Cordon should have a singles as well. Keep group as it is, as it is fun to see team comps, but allow us to see how each person actually ranks up.

[fiery marsh]

I wish cal ops was back

Or just have both cal ops and cordons

[rotund flame]

Honestly same. Just because it was easier to find a game with humans.plus I don't think anyone plays the second side at all lol

[sharp talon]

i think queuing is problematic because there are 10 queues for cordon

[fiery marsh]

Gotta go locked in with your pack

[thorny frost]

The rapid fire? That is the one I played first.

[rotund flame]

Yeah the rapid/impact side. Rarely see matches for it

[fiery marsh]

I went straight into diffusion with buddies

Its so much harder than containment

[sharp talon]

im really hoping its not the new strike with the ball pushing 😭

the next cordon cycle

[obtuse chasm]

I hope it is

[rotund flame]

Well there's the problem for 90% of people... The "friends" part 😭

[sharp talon]

Bruh

[obtuse chasm]

These damn rocks bruh

[sharp talon]

idm for boss cuz jaren has auto aim on him

[thorny frost]

It helps my main is Estela so I wanted to use her… I wish I didn’t have to break impact Shinkas even with other players tho

[empty kettle]

Just make some friends

[fiery marsh]

Join a competitive pack and be trainable for these runs and you'll fit in just fine

[obtuse chasm]

Are you having issues with 11? Or just cordon in general

[rotund flame]

11? Isn't 10 the highest people have gotten so far?

[obtuse chasm]

lol nah brother

[sharp talon]

emea/apac its 13

[obtuse chasm]

My team is going 12 once our HH is 100k

But most people are at 11 already

[sharp talon]

whats highest on na?

still 12 with likely?

[obtuse chasm]

I believe 13 as well

Nah likely got pushed out

Top 3 are all the same person

[sharp talon]

14 is probably possible tbh

just there is no time in the cycle left

[rotund flame]

Dang. I'm currently on 8 with random matchmaking. Could probably get 10 if i push my light above 100k. Don't feel like farming for a 5 star artifact, the odds are so low . Keep getting 3 and 4s

[obtuse chasm]

Probably, as long as there aren’t anymore rocks I’ll be happy

[sharp talon]

those rocks are actual bs

[obtuse chasm]

The hitbox is insane bruh

[sharp talon]

ye u can only go left or right to dodge them i think

if u jump most of the time u will die

[fiery marsh]

With jolder in your team taking 30% of the dmg is nice cause you won't get 1 shot by those

[obtuse chasm]

Yup I tried jumping over and was a good distance above and still got my ikora with os

[rotund flame]

You talking about the 2 pillars that come at you when you go towards the floating mobs with a shield?

[fiery marsh]

And her super is just too damn useful

[sharp talon]

its the rocks at the boss

[obtuse chasm]

You’re getting 1 shot regardless stage 11+

[sharp talon]

unless ur jaren and u can tank everything

[obtuse chasm]

Then aura is getting you

[sharp talon]

except the rocks 😂

[fiery marsh]

Running safeguarding works xD

[sharp talon]

legit can stay at boss and tank all the tentacles boss the red bars

[fiery marsh]

Especially with healing perturbation eh?

[sharp talon]

unrelenting evolution is op

[fiery marsh]

Im running radiation in diffusion but swapping rampaging with bellicose planetismal cause aura counts as a debuff already

So i get all my radiation buffs

[obtuse chasm]

Rocks are literally my only weakness on that damned cordon I can tank everything else

[fiery marsh]

Cause effrideet is a glass cannon

[stoic scarab]

Hi, I'd like to be a content creator for Destiny Rising Mobile. Can anyone help me? I have 26k followers.

[obtuse chasm]

I don’t only run efrideet for cordon

I’ve pushed 11+ on my ikora and efrideet

[sharp talon]

i really like in cordon there arent really 'meta slave' comps yet. some people are running double ikora on 12

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah lowkey like it

[stoic scarab]

[twilit thistle]

apparently cordon was dropping whats on ur wishlisht, and only what was on ur wishlist.

[sharp talon]

weapons?

[tight talon]

Ew

[tight talon]

I hate the Expanse 30 requirement

[obtuse chasm]

Brother what 😭

[tight talon]

[obtuse chasm]

I pushed 40+ on efrideet for every type lol

Got bored

Stage 59 on ikora is going to make me jump tho I swear

[tight talon]

My Efrideet is literally 83600 and i don't have a way to gain power aside from refactoring my 80s

[twilit thistle]

grrrr opening opera

[tight talon]

Don't you dare

We don't pay the companies doing terrible balancing job

[obtuse chasm]

Brother farm 90’s already were in phase 4 😭

[tight talon]

I have 3 90s on Umeko

She's only 68k

We literally back in the same endgame again, Chaos mines

[obtuse chasm]

Luckily it I’ll be over soon

[sharp talon]

what star?

[obtuse chasm]

Once we hit phase 5 we’ll all be pretty much even

[tight talon]

3*

[sharp talon]

how is she low wtf

[obtuse chasm]

Are you running blue weaps 😭

[twilit thistle]

thats like 120 chests to max tho.

so like stage 400ish should cover that.

[tight talon]

Nuh Lassi 0/3 perks (full level 10 mods) and Iza Cat 2, Column 2 filled

[tight talon]

Best i can do is 2 chests and quit. That's the only amount of patience i got

[sharp talon]

did anyone notice they scheduled the maintenance tweet on twitter on the wrong day yesterday 🤣

[tight talon]

[obtuse chasm]

Wym I’m pulling Gwynn rn

Gwynning all over the place rn

[fiery marsh]

Dunno if she'd worth it :S

I might pull 1 gwynn for the story xD

[obtuse chasm]

Nah she’s definitely not worth it

Waiting for Estella, hellhest, and Jaren gunna t6 all of em my pockets are gunna be burning

[tight talon]

Heavily outclassed. Needs something for her TP skill

[sharp talon]

is this game serious

i have 4 5* unrelenting evolutions now 😭

[twilit thistle]

i maxed out a 5 star so you dont have to. It literally dropped like this, thought it would be good for random situations

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-gif-10061070920122192479

[trim tusk]

soy de latam

[twilit thistle]

probably for ikroa 2, cuz I run that on her in shifting gates and often forget to take it off 💀

[trim tusk]

algún moderador para ser creador de contenido

[twilit thistle]

Assuming 4500 is the cap.

[visual rain]

bruh

[remote grove]

Best artifact after all lvl 50 clear on expanse.. and like 1000+ stages of chaos mines

[sharp talon]

thats unlucky

[remote grove]

I need more 5 stars 😭

At least efrideet can do alot of endless stuff

[surreal berry]

Can this be PIN by a mod?

[surreal berry]

Will a Mod Be Willing to PIN This?...

[tender mist]

New player who started playing almost 2 weeks ago, was wondering if the Gwynn re run will be the Limited boats? Like the ones that are used for Efrideet?

Since its a "limited run" that means it will be right?

[candid phoenix]

yes

the red ikora boats were just a special event because the CN servers weren't on the same schedule as the rest of the world

[tender mist]

okay ty thats what i figured

[wide dagger]

My 97k efrideet stuck at 40

[elder wing]

Which side??

[golden spade]

So guys this mod gives dmg increases by chance? Cause mine gave me only 30%

also where do u farm those 👆

[wide dagger]

The piercing

[bold fog]

New mods have a range

Get from front lines and craft

[golden spade]

Thank you

[carmine stone]

Is reload speed or rate of fire the better stat for bows?

[visual rain]

u mean the boss or 41+?

[wide dagger]

The boss 😔

[visual rain]

bruh

should be light work at 97k i did it with a bum ahh build

but u can always get 102k :)

[wide dagger]

Dis is my build

[visual rain]

what does courageous do again

[wide dagger]

25%+ damage for 10s when abilities

[visual rain]

yeah idk that should be fine

i used umeko artifacts

are u dying or damage check

[wide dagger]

Dying

To small elites dumbies

[visual rain]

im ngl idk how u even die on efri but use DR artifacts for 1 & 2

health regen is what binging does iirc, and it is really not good in high end stuff

cus u die before u make use of it

[proper niche]

Reload, You only shoot 1 Arrow at a time so You want to load them faster

[elder wing]

Ngl that build is kinda wrong

[wide dagger]

Gang

[visual rain]

it is very wrong but it should be good enough just for the clear

[wide dagger]

I used recommended for her except for token 😭 😭

So wha to use then ?

[elder wing]

Player who completed impact side with efri stage 69 uses this

[visual rain]

recommended doesnt really mean anything tbh

the game kinda lies

[wide dagger]

Sighs gosh another 1k stages of chaos to max it now

[visual rain]

i dont get why everyone is using RoC tho

unrelenting evolution and another DR arti in 1st slot is so good

[elder wing]

Well dk lol look like is working

[visual rain]

my best guess is thats just what they had then everyone copied them

because theres really no reason to not run DR

[elder wing]

That build works well lol

[bold fog]

if it's the max of the range it has a 👍
only refine those

[visual rain]

idk man i personally would never use nourishing pact over DR

[elder wing]

On efri?

[visual rain]

its better to reduce the damage youre taking than get it back just for it to immediately go away

yeah

[river vigil]

in my experience nourshing pact+ring is easier to use and more comfortable than 2 dr artifacts

[elder wing]

Nah lol for evfri NP is better

[visual rain]

being able to proc unrelenting evolution is huge tho even if something like nimble veil isnt super useful for her

[river vigil]

the constant overshield is hard to argue against

[visual rain]

but nimble veil can still help if youre taking TONS of damage

[visual rain]

taking less damage is effectively the same as an overshield

with how slowly armored decays you constantly have DR up

[river vigil]

not really, especially when you're overcapping your health inside of an impact shinka

[visual rain]

yes, really

if i take half the damage i have twice the effective health

unless there is some thing i dont know of which deals true damage

[river vigil]

you generate more than twice your health

[elder wing]

Nah that won’t work the same way specifically with efri… maybe on dif character but not her

[river vigil]

if they change how nourshing+ring works on her double resist would be better but right now nourshing pact+ring is going to be the best choice for most players

[elder wing]

Tried both builds in Some expanse stages and DR doesn’t even work that well.. where the other builds saves you more

[visual rain]

i was doing stage 40 at 88k with DR and not dying

[elder wing]

Did 55 with 84

[river vigil]

the arguement was never that it couldnt be done

[obtuse chasm]

I genuinely feel bad for you, then again you could just need one more and the game refuses to give it to you 😔

[visual rain]

the hell kind of guns u got to do that much damage 😭

[elder wing]

Not guns.. but time

[obtuse chasm]

Pushing high cordon with nourishing and conversion only thing killing me is rocks, healing and overshields over Dr anyday

Same with expanse at least for efrideet

[obtuse chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-bro-hand-on-shoulder-gif-11963500747147243380

[remote grove]

If I was that close id say f it and wait till Monday and upgrade it 😆

[bold fog]

what in all hell is the pattern behind this thing

[pine verge]

I agree, DR is the best

[bold fog]

there is no rule. just shoot until you find it

[obtuse chasm]

Bros in to deep

[wide dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/ilgbtenha-stantwt-stan-twt-dude-nobody-invited-funny-gif-2432697925408331078

[obtuse chasm]

At this point I’m mainly focusing my ikora lol I’m chillin with 101.6k

On efrideet

[bold fog]

insane lol

[remote grove]

Yeah im doing ikora and efri at same time atm, I got lucky and found estella godrolls while farming last night tho so.. 3 birds one stone 😄

[obtuse chasm]

I could change your efrideets life 😔 you just gotta let me

[obtuse chasm]

You just reminded me to work on my Estella to 😭 but yeah I’ve basically done my 3/4 for both ikora and efrideet my luck with def arts is atrocious tho

Also congrats on stage 11

Sorry I didn’t see your message till hella late

[remote grove]

All good was able to drag a few pack members in there and get it done

Was helping them all day pretty much

[obtuse chasm]

Waiting for my teams hellhest to hit 100k then we’ll push 12+ lol, we’ve been dragging him into cordon so he hasn’t had time to hit the mines 😂 but yeah that’s how it’s been with my pack as well luckily it’s pretty active tho so as long as I ignore it I’m good, my problem is I can’t ignore invs 😔

[remote grove]

Im torn between farming adept gun vs more artifact lol

[sharp talon]

arti should be easier but idek atp

[obtuse chasm]

I stopped arts for the gun grind but I’m happy with my adept ist and solar lgl for ikora

[remote grove]

Im same way, I got pinged 4 separate times to do cordon 10 thru out the day

[sharp talon]

im gonna crash out because undaunted spiral isnt dropping for me

[obtuse chasm]

😔

I’m gunna crash out because I can’t stop getting them

[remote grove]

Thats the one I want. And coil is kinda fun so im thinking about upgrading it a lil

[obtuse chasm]

I’m sorry rawr I’m stealing all of your drops 😭

[sharp talon]

how tf

[obtuse chasm]

I need to work on the new void one

[sharp talon]

how much chaos did u do

[obtuse chasm]

About 800 yesterday and 400 today

Need to get back to the mines but I’m just so tired of chaos 😔 my luck with dps arts is great but def arts is another story

[sharp talon]

damn im slacking

[somber drum]

How does one even reach that much? The most I’ve gotten is 63k on Maru

[remote grove]

Im all done with spiral. Took long enough

[sharp talon]

im gonna do 1000 chaos stages today mark my words

[obtuse chasm]

Just grinding fam, all maxed weaps, mods, arts, etc. just missing 1 artifact for her

[remote grove]

You'll get there. Just watch something on background

[obtuse chasm]

That’s what I’ve been doing I stayed logged in for spiked shield but I got pulled into a cordon run and lost it 😔

[oak temple]

Adding Adept weapons is a brilliant move. The game no longer feels pointless now.

[remote grove]

And definitely do spike shell+ boxer on ikora, I got like 500 done in a few hours on that

[somber drum]

Bet but what’s the fastest way to get the season phases done because my stupid ahh is stuck on phase two rn

[remote grove]

Clear endless stage requirement

[obtuse chasm]

Idk bro ive never been stuck behind a phase, fastest way would be just to finish the challenges the day they become available

That way you don’t forget and get stuck behind a phase

I haven’t really had to do much tho they normally just auto complete because I already meet the req

Stuck on 49 for precision until I build my borealis up 😭

[remote grove]

I did 50 with crimson, idk if u have it available too you tho

[obtuse chasm]

Really? How did you deal with the void shields on stage 49? Feel like I always run out of time let me try again real quick tho last time I did it was with Ted

But I have both maxed, imma go give it a shot rn

[remote grove]

Yeah try it. Crimson just pumps thru shields

[obtuse chasm]

It’s those lightning procs bro they’re deadly

I love it

Switched from Ted to crimson on my cordon pushes and noticed a huge dps increase

[remote grove]

Yeah definitely, and crimson gives a bit of extra healing if y need it

[obtuse chasm]

Yessirrr it’s goated

Alr brb gunna go push real quick

[remote grove]

Glgl

I also got 50 rapid cleared on efri crimson

[bold fog]

ruh roh

[obtuse chasm]

Bruh I finally got it lmao

Idk why I didn’t think to use crimson

[remote grove]

Ggs

[obtuse chasm]

Time for the 60 push

[remote grove]

Yeah I been thinking about it but I waiting to get my power a little higher

[river vigil]

i swear nimble makes running efrideet in impact so much easier, if only it was available in all of the stages

I wish they would make a cdr artifact but they probably wont

[elder wing]

Someone did whole impact with crimson to stage 72 lol still can’t believe that sh

[hidden carbon]

Just random drops now. Got this from sparrow racing

[remote grove]

Competition time is just really OP lol

• spear blinds

[river vigil]

I cant wait to get the adept first slot precision mod

then crimson will truly be complete

[obtuse chasm]

60 done 😭 why was that so much easier compared to 40-50

[remote grove]

Oh well now I wont wait xD I'll prob run it tomorrow

[obtuse chasm]

And finally got it from choice chest wwwww manssss

Appreciate you or else I would’ve waited lol

[remote grove]

Niceee

[obtuse chasm]

Still not enough to push past 102k tho 😔

I need better base stats

[spiral shell]

rug pull brrrt brrt

[obtuse chasm]

Nvm lol just barely made it

[sweet urchin]

Someone know how these teams manage to get 50%+ damage with ikora on cordon stage 12 ? Seems unreal

All other team have ikora doing around 15% damage. How they manage to get 50% ?

[sharp talon]

sppp cracked

[sharp talon]

they have low score i think, the hh run out of ammo and ikora has to do most of the damage my guess

ye they only got 74k-86k, they are just going for clear

[sweet urchin]

Hmm ok thanks, seems clear now

[sweet urchin]

Gg for stage 13 btw, this is insane

[sharp talon]

ty man. my team is cracked

[sweet urchin]

You use exotic shotgun for shinka that's right ?

[sharp talon]

No i break it manually using thermo 💀

[sweet urchin]

💀💀💀

[river vigil]

this makes me feel like I need to reinstall kovaaks

[sweet urchin]

Gg that's just unreal

[tender mist]

apologies is stupid question, im very new to the game. ive been using Efrideet, and i dont understand how this build works for her? doesnt the first relic need a summon?

[river vigil]

if the javelin doesnt instantly kill the mob it will count as a summon

[tender mist]

hmmm alright.

i dont rly understand builds yet but i was gonna try it

[azure saffron]

okay how am I suppose to get above 80K on my guys? I am looking to do lvl 30 for any of the expanses but I cannot hit that recommended level. ability wise they are at max and weapons are as high as they can get right now, is there something I am missing with that web of upgrades where I place the new guys down? is it purely in the artifacts now?

I've looked into some of the new exotic mods and they aren't so much higher than the ones I have to make that much of a difference

[vale ingot]

Anyone else struggling with reaching 40 in endless IX? I have a 98k T6 resolute Kabr and hitting a hard dps check on the boss level... not even getting close to clearing that stage at the moment.. could potenially get another 4-500 power with T5/90 artifact farming and levelling, and same again if i had exotic gems for emenare but that seems.. a high bar..

[remote grove]

Try del3 with godroll perks, and max arbalest. You might need more power from artifacts too

Thats what my buddy just recently cleared it with. Killed boss with like 10 sec left tho. Kabr has hard time meeting the damage check in there.

[tender mist]

does crimson healing work with that ring of conversion artifact? or is it ONLY abilities?

[proper niche]

Check Your artifacts, You want 90s and get them as high as possible for extra power

[azure saffron]

been tricky to get 90's, and I have found I have run out of the artifact refractors, is this something I am gonna have to farm chaos for?

[remote grove]

Have you farmed new artifacts? Their power levels have been increased this season

[remote grove]

Yeap. Lots of chaos

[azure saffron]

rip, at least its not energy bound, I could just run it ad nauseum now right?

[remote grove]

Costs around 300 refactoring material to max a new 90

[azure saffron]

yikes

[remote grove]

Yeah you definitely can, I just watch stuff on YouTube while I run it. You can get 300 refactoring material quickly. Godrolls are a bit more tricky

[azure saffron]

can worry about god rolls once I have the power level i need

[bold fog]

How y'all getting deep cordon?
I can't even start until I get the level

[remote grove]

You need a A or better on stage 10 diffusion to enter dire difficulty

[bold fog]

To me it's a min not a recommended

10?!
It won't let me start 3 lol

[remote grove]

Oh lol, you just need to set up the modifiers and what not

[bold fog]

I had, or I join the preset modifier of the teammate
But it won't let me start too low

[proper niche]

Best to wait for spiked shell to be on and then You do 1 clear in 30-40 secs so the farm isn't that bad

[azure saffron]

sounds like a plan

[remote grove]

🤰

[neon pebble]

1 hour to go

[remote grove]

She's back

[neon pebble]

Servers are going down in 10 seconds for maintenance

[hidden carbon]

She needs more buffs

[last gulch]

does EMEA have diff main time? or are they maint at the same time?

[neon pebble]

She didnt need any

[cobalt beacon]

real gwynn is the goat

[polar summit]

If only they did that 10sec clip for every released character… the last we got was kabr?

[modest tiger]

I want a character who can build a house

[proper niche]

Bob the Builder collab idea

[remote grove]

Giving her more range to pick up orbs and never loosing the orbs over time is a decent buff. I use her for alot of solo impact stuff. (But jaren is just better lol

[obtuse chasm]

Sorry for the late response, and it’s not a stupid question you’re new so I understand, but yeah Stephen was right her spear counts as a summon

[vale ingot]

thanks, i'll give it a go again.. hoping to get it done to unlock phase V when that arrives monday.. has been a struggle so far tho - need to ensure i kill the knigts before they have a chance to shield/heal. it's a pita and that's a massive time cost if you screw it up.

[obtuse chasm]

Someone ping me when servers are back up

[cobalt beacon]

just use attal

the goat!

[remote grove]

actual facts

[cobalt beacon]

im actually gonna go lvl her and report back she mini helhest

[remote grove]

Unlimited heals

[cobalt beacon]

infinite dr

too

[remote grove]

I need to get my attal to 100k

[cobalt beacon]

her with the new handcannon will make me buss

[remote grove]

Oh fr, so many weapon options for her. Queensbreaker, arby, bp handcannon

[cobalt beacon]

new bp handcannon = double dmg linear and a good handcannon

its over

best 4* in the game trust

[modest tiger]

The void linear is the best one?

[remote grove]

Now we cookin

[cobalt beacon]

i think the solar one because you want instant dmg not build up dmg that you lose on swap

[modest tiger]

I wish they told us how much damage increase frames give or take away

[cobalt beacon]

real

[modest tiger]

Bc the 3 round burst obviously sounds the best coming from d2

[cobalt beacon]

yeah i think its the best one because you wont need to build up dmg

so you can keep that handcannons debuff up

without losing dmg

[modest tiger]

I’ll try out attal and take her in next cordon

Bc I don’t have t6 helhest or efirdeet

[remote grove]

If your team says your trolling tell them they are just bad and need the heals

[modest tiger]

I will solo it myself

[last gulch]

this channel turned into comedy club

oh don't stop the show... T.T

[modest tiger]

Sorry man I don’t have the best artifact for the game

[remote grove]

Its usually like this during maintenance

[modest tiger]

How are you guys getting this to max level every time

[last gulch]

haha... good to know. I didn' tknow the regular showtimes. Now I know!

[modest tiger]

I only have mythical

[remote grove]

Swipe, and charge back ftw

[modest tiger]

Fire

[quaint echo]

Maintenance should be done soon right??

Or it start recently? I just woke up lol.

[naive ingot]

Started 26 mins ago

[bitter estuary]

fortballs

[modest tiger]

Cokewoman

[bitter estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[modest tiger]

@bitter estuary

[remote grove]

Welcome back

[bitter estuary]

the balls

[modest tiger]

Sigma

[bitter estuary]

true

[bitter estuary]

save the world wow

[modest tiger]

[bitter estuary]

jaren balls

[naive ingot]

Never left lol

[molten eagle]

How are people at 100 on the character power, when I’m maxed at 97500 Efrideet , maxed 90 artifacts

100,000 *

[thorny obsidian]

level 90 5 star artifacts?

[molten eagle]

They have 5* out? I think they’re 4*

Chaos is life 😭

[thorny obsidian]

5 ⭐ can drop now since this week.

[molten eagle]

I grinded that for nothing

Chaos gets so tedious

[thorny obsidian]

30 min of chaos and then do something else. rinse and repeat 🤣

[molten eagle]

😭😭😭 someone said they ran 8hrs straight on their day off,

[thorny obsidian]

done around 5 hours a day the last 2 days. got 3 characters with 3 5* artifacts. droprate sucks for me

[obtuse chasm]

Arts

[molten eagle]

I didn’t even know about 5* till u mentioned it, they don’t like me lol

[obtuse chasm]

Update needs to finish already I’m trying to push 80 expanse

[thorny obsidian]

just need to be sure you done your phase requirments to get the 5*

[molten eagle]

😍

[proper niche]

I ran chaos on tuesday while watching football and got one 5* during 2h session - just wait for spiked shell and it goes fast

[obtuse chasm]

Sadly my base stats suck on my arts tho

[molten eagle]

I think I’m just waiting on server time.

[obtuse chasm]

Or else I’d be higher

And I don’t feel like grinding anymore chaos rn

[obtuse chasm]

2150-5030 😔 bro doesn’t have truth

[molten eagle]

I love the crimson on her

[obtuse chasm]

Bis imo

Ted is situational

[molten eagle]

It really is i tried the BP hand cannon and couldn’t cope dropping anything in it

[obtuse chasm]

Maxed cloudstrike and the bp hc just to find out they couldn’t compete 😔

Tested a lot of stuff but should’ve just waited it out luckily I can help other efrideet players now tho

[molten eagle]

I’m using the iso sniper with barb and horror metabolism

[modest tiger]

Ples net ease

[empty kettle]

You'll get graviton lance and bad juju instead

[modest tiger]

Idk why bungie hates Siva

[jagged osprey]

So is Cloudstrike just mid? I’ve almost maxed it out and I find it very fun

[neon pebble]

They made her even better 💀 no more orbs disappearing. Time to drop 30 shottie rounds into a pumped up Super to 1 shot a boss with 36 void orbs

[civic wadi]

STELLA 🌞 CMON. 5-7. called it

[grizzled sentinel]

so wait gwynn will be worth pulling for now?

[neon pebble]

You also forgot Attals T6 is a Dmg Buff, i wonder if TED debuff stacks with umeko or overrides it 🤔 would be hilarious if TED debuff doesnt stack and is better than new mythic supports 🤣

I hate HC. Prob least fav primary in game, think I almost like fusion rifles more. Cant shoot a HC so I cant play Jaren 💀

[neon pebble]

||always was||

[grizzled sentinel]

yippee

[neon pebble]

42 days, ima T6 her

[remote cape]

best thing they ever had

[obtuse chasm]

Slightly better then mid but nowhere near as good as crimson/ ist

Jeziba cloudstrike is fun tho and you’ll still do decent damage just won’t be able to compete with a good efrideet using crimson/ ist

[pine verge]

Its not bad. Would be better if the storm was every three hits. It has a cooldown

[pine verge]

TED only applies to the user im pretty sure

Could be wrong though

[obtuse chasm]

You’re right

[naive ingot]

Was always here too. Keeping the faith in the Goth side.

[obtuse chasm]

I’d wait a week see how the buff plays out

[sharp talon]

bruh someone had 45 45 45 45 base stat 😭 i cant believe it

[remote grove]

Coil best weapon from new raid confirmed

[obtuse chasm]

Did they fix it?

[remote grove]

Pew pew

[molten eagle]

Didn’t like it in D2

[remote grove]

Didn't know it was broken but its still fun af

[fresh moat]

Sucked in d2 except that one week it was shredding rivens toes

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah something to do with the range and ikoras weapon mastery or something along those lines

[remote grove]

Darn lol

[obtuse chasm]

I think the word going around is if you’re farther then 20m but tbh I’m normally up in the enemies face as ikora

So I think the only influence is the rate at which it increases her ability bar

[remote grove]

Thunderlord mid :<

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah I’m sad about that as well, I’ll still build it for legendary Kabr to meme around with tho

I’m lowkey irritated I got pulled into a cordon an hour before reset

Was just about to finish 70