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[neon pebble]

You could double down, no? Its based on weapon damage but is its own instance so should also be buffable 👀

[grand panther]

1k!!!! Not 100 1 k

[visual rain]

dude i dont even know what ur talking about rn are we talking artifacts or substats or what

[neon pebble]

Still same from earlier. 5% more wpn dmg doesnt outweigh a boosted weapon mastery

[visual rain]

well i didnt understand what you meant before either because you started talking about ascending or some sh

and something about veil

no one who has played umeko has ever used veil

[neon pebble]

Who really plays umeko outside of debuffing raid bosses and trying to 1 shot izi? Maybe veil is better for 1shot burst phase 🤷

[barren phoenix]

I think if you wanna do exotic HC crimson is better then BP HC

[visual rain]

no... ive said like 5 times already damage bonus is worse than weapon damage bonus because it scales worse, and you dont benefit from the bonus damage to abilities

im leaving bro

ts is melting my brain

[twilit thistle]

I ran it from s1 to s3 there is little to no differnce imo

[sullen depot]

false. crimson is only better if u wanna do rapid fire expanse with her

[neon pebble]

Weapon mastery is an ability?

[prisma pond]

Idk from everything i've seen online bp wep seems to be doing more dmg when maxed that debuf is really powerful

Crimson is fun and more easy to use i guess? But in terms of dmg it pales in comparison to even the mythic hc

[vital sentinel]

artifact grinding is going to make me jump off a bridge lmao

[twilit thistle]

@thorny frost I can confirm taniks is correct about the summons being the source of the healing. That being said, i still think for additional healing it does provide better healing. Press F to pay respects for the essence i burned to test that.

[pine verge]

Crimson certainly does more than jezi. It recharges her spears faster

[pine verge]

What did you test?

[thorny frost]

O yea summons attacking is her main way to heal. Misfortune heal is nice but honestly doesn’t synergize with conversion well as the heal when your weapon hits can’t trigger conversion. For the instant heal that we saw (10k+) that isn’t summons either as they can only do 350x multiplier at a time. Just a fun interaction of the gift of the IX and misfortune.

[twilit thistle]

😭

[thorny frost]

The interaction of misfortune and weapon attacks is why I kind of want to try her without it, it just is so nice for one shots, as you would need 50% damage reduction to be similar (and can’t use blazer).

[pine verge]

What about it though? I prefer DR in that slot w/ warding pact though lol

[thorny frost]

Well at least it is a good roll Nourishing… can use it at least for Emanare system

[pine verge]

I hope they make conversion work with her T1

[twilit thistle]

It does

[thorny frost]

It hasn’t since her release… maybe if we see Gwynn getting a buff with her rerun

[pine verge]

It does not

[thorny frost]

The heals from weapon fire into misfortune don’t provide overshield.

[pine verge]

Fingers crossed fr

[thorny frost]

There is a small heal (although not 40%) that it appears to heal

[pine verge]

Gwynn could also use a buff. Maybe movespeed when teleporting atleast lol. 2 teleports base kit and 3 with t2 👀

[thorny frost]

When you first cast it

[pine verge]

Yeah I think the misfortune itself has some lifesteal its weird

[thorny frost]

I can’t test T0 so I am unsure if it is T1 or not triggering it

[pine verge]

I used my free talent box from bundles on estela and regret it after finding out t1 doesnt work

I guess I might as well get t2 on rerun since I have t1

[thorny frost]

It works, it is also very important in keeping her summons alive

It just doesn’t work with conversion (I am guessing that is what you meant >.>)

[twilit thistle]

Isnt that wat taniks said to do?

[pine verge]

Yeah thats what I meant lol

[thorny frost]

I think we were checking 2 different things, thus where the confusion come from.

#💭│main-chat message we can see that weapon fire into misfortune isn’t triggering conversion.

[pine verge]

Considering running pure DR instead of conversion tbh

unrelenting evolution works with warding pact

[thorny frost]

I need to test unrelenting evolution more. It might only refresh, When you summon your first one or raise damage reduction.

If you need to lose a summon, or lose all of them, that might not be as good for T6 Estela

[twilit thistle]

im still gonna stick with this one cuz it just heals way more. I did find one case it cant hold up tho and thats agianst an impact shinka boomer on stg 40 of the impact expanse.

[pine verge]

I havent tested unrelenting with 3 summons, but outside of boss damage I let one fall off before resummoning anyways

Cuz I dont have all them talents lol

[visual rain]

👀

just need to replace melee and barrier

[pine verge]

I honestly also would prefer to use generic damage % instead of summon %

[thorny frost]

I have not tried impact expanse with her, I heard nourishing pack could work for keeping alive in the impact shield tho XD

[pine verge]

But not sure what id use. Maybe rampaging pact

[twilit thistle]

😔 back in s1 they yelled at me for using this

[thorny frost]

With conversion and if you can maintain over shield blazer third slot isn’t bad

Well I guess that is just ability

[pine verge]

Yeah thats what I used to use but I swapped over now after t1 to pure dr and summons

[thorny frost]

But she doesn’t have the greatest weapon damage, and accidents don’t get enhanced by weapon abilities anymore.

[pine verge]

But damage from accidents is no joke so I want to increase that too, and furies actually does damage so id like to buff that lol

[visual rain]

where 5 star

[pine verge]

If only rampaging pact lasted longer than 6 seconds it'd be an easy choice

[signal spade]

help

[river vigil]

you got another hour in you

[twilit thistle]

🫠 @cobalt beacon I didnt know ur condition of doing all expanses on the wrong char was contagious.

[thorny frost]

Part of me wants to test the fire rate (precession) with her now that artifact building is easier. More accidents + more explosions could be nice.

[true dock]

my jaron is power full

[twilit thistle]

lmao its not worth it

[pine verge]

Same. It'd be perfect if it was damage and firerate lol

[humble jacinth]

How much base value do your artifacts need to be to get tier 10 stat? 40 or the full 45?

Double 35 on both my damage artifacts only got me tier 9.

[thorny frost]

Average of 37.5 at 5*

[thorny frost]

I wonder if the Emanare crystals would trigger this XD

[humble jacinth]

Ty

[thorny frost]

Seeing as it is technically a skill in our character page

[pine verge]

Buff misfortune so it extends when accident triggers so I can use preponderant plasma 🙂

[sullen depot]

lmao it appears to be working

i just tested with umeko

[thorny frost]

Are you getting a big enough damage increase?

[sullen depot]

if i just dash i get 5112 dmg. If i apply my ability to one enemy, dash and then shoot at another enemy instead, i get 7772

[thorny frost]

I am only getting like a 10% damage increase it feels

Huh I need to see what I must be doing wrong.

[chilly spindle]

Hey how do you increase your power with the new update? I’m stuck at like 83k

[oak kettle]

Emanare and moving to lvl 90 artifacts and upgrading them are the main ways

[sullen depot]

ah wait nvm i lied. my signature ability just bounced farther than i realized. i didnt see the puple faint outline on enemy. it was the vulnerability dmg that was happening

doesnt seem to work when i space out properly

[chilly spindle]

Oh I didn’t realize they capped the old artifacts ok thank you

[twilit thistle]

😭

[sullen depot]

how does one get the new cordon emblem?

[twilit thistle]

Dunno but i wouldnt complain if u carried me to get it when we find out.

[neon pebble]

Need to T6 Gwynn. Atleast T2

Or T5 need T5

[placid birch]

Hiii I just joined how are you guys

Wait wrong server sorry

[thorny frost]

I am guessing that Cordon title will be part of gilding the seals, or a secret triumph

[sharp talon]

which cordon title?

i got a cordon emblem that levels up when i did 11

[languid thicket]

Hi i have a question about weekly xp cap, emare and trifling

Bcos xp is cap weekly, if you dont hit the cap or completely not play for the week or coming in to play late in the season, does that mean you are cooked? You cant complete the emare and catchup and a net power loss just bcos u cant play much?

[sharp talon]

they will increase the xp cap on some phases for you to catch up on

but you are kinda screwed a little tho

[visual rain]

this game is giving me 5 stars for the ones not on my wishlist

what is this bum ahh artifact

[sharp talon]

😂

insanely garbage arti

[visual rain]

i dont even wanna keep ts but like its a 5 star

[thick radish]

is cordion super ultra dead os is it just me trying to catch up and being on tier 6

[sharp talon]

there are too many cordon queues i think

[weak ginkgo]

[thick radish]

havent been able tog et a full team since sunday

[twilit thistle]

What netease did to legendary campaigns makes me want pinnacle back. Even "heroic" feels ridiculously slow compared to the past.

[thick radish]

they basically said we either pay to play or they stop respecting our time lol

[sullen depot]

LC system def needs a fix but i will still take whatever we have now over pinnacle

[twilit thistle]

🫠

it costs 93k silver to get all exotics to be 5 stars

[visual rain]

THE GAME IS ONLY GIVING ME 3 STARS NOW

ok 180 stages/hr not bad

[twilit thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-larry-luciano-snail-race-slow-gif-2065958177677714904

[visual rain]

whats ur most stages in an hour

200+?

[twilit thistle]

its wat mythic sent me lol i love that gif

[visual rain]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-cat-ryujinr-grey-cat-gif-13471549557469691566

[sullen depot]

this is at stage 261. avg of 3.7 stages /min

[visual rain]

alright but helhest is cheating

[sullen depot]

? this si spike shell with ning

[twilit thistle]

yall need to like make guides

[visual rain]

nvm then

[visual rain]

adept or heroic?

[sullen depot]

adept

[visual rain]

maybe i shouldve taken boxer upgrade

i didnt max it

[sullen depot]

oh u always need boxer upgrade with spike shell

[visual rain]

no i have boxer but not the upgrade

[oak kettle]

I do boxer and executioner upgrades personally

[twilit thistle]

👀 also just looking u know there is an ability that boosts movement speed right?

[oak kettle]

Melee comet and boxer are enough for anything Thats not a boss, executioner makes nuking the bosses so much faster at max

[sullen depot]

u mean this one?

[visual rain]

BRO

GIVE ME THE ARTIFACTS ON MY FKN LIST

[sullen depot]

gimme gimmee. i need that one

[visual rain]

trade me bro

[indigo solar]

Weapon damage bonus and damage bonus scale the exact same, the only thing is that Umeko deals no ability damage so more weapon damage is better

#💭│main-chat message

[indigo solar]

Third slot Blazar was buffing more than pact fsr

[indigo solar]

Have we tested whether it procs when the weapon is stowed

[dapper wharf]

i wanna ask where can i use this?

like the golden beetle cosmetic

[lone lion]

I need to work on my exotics but which one is the best?

[thorny frost]

When I tested blazer and pact the damage was higher in pact. My specific set 7147 is with blazer and 7162 is with pact. The pact one technically should have been weaker due to solar bonus even.

*not weaker, meant blazer had extra damage due to stats.

[thorny frost]

Why did you switch to rampaging? That should only work after casting. Some reason I thought we were talking about Belicose pact

[indigo solar]

It's the same result, swapping loadouts seemingly treats things as being cast again

Actually it seems like it's just not proccing at all

Okay yeah rampaging straight up doesn't boost summons anymore

[thorny frost]

Yea I was just checking that, I always read rampaging as the inverse to Belicose. I didn’t think about it before when Vortiene mentioned Rampaging as I haven’t tried rampaging on her for that reason :/. That and 6 seconds doesn’t always work out well outside of dps phases.

[tight talon]

God phases are such a pain

Oh btw @indigo solar did Del Lassi finally become good for Umeko?

With perk upgrades

[indigo solar]

Yay, I love being caught in a data breach

Sorry to anyone I DM'ed

[indigo solar]

It was always decent on her

The scouts are basically just match the shield type and run Izzy

[twilit thistle]

It does not work

[indigo solar]

expected tbh

[twilit thistle]

Just if held
“Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] “ and also bellicose might not be needed anymore bc those activities aren’t all as easy.

[stiff breach]

jaren is done till next week now to work on efri

[obtuse chasm]

Honestly I’d just stick with furies if you want to just have a good lmg option tho heir is your best bet

[obtuse chasm]

I switched to conversion for my efrideet, with crimson

Don’t know how I feel about Ted in higher content rn

[stiff breach]

my plan is nourshing pact, conversion, rampaging, spiral for efri

[obtuse chasm]

Yup that’s exactly what I’m running rn

Working wonders in 10+ cordon

[stiff breach]

chaos just wants to drop the 4th slot for everything

[obtuse chasm]

I swear 😭 my luck with 1/2 has been horrible

Instantly got my 3/4 slot within an hour

[stiff breach]

oh question

[obtuse chasm]

Nothing but 4*’s for 1 and 2 tho 😔

[stiff breach]

for that set up what substat you doing for defensives

[obtuse chasm]

I’m running def, health, shields, elemental but I’m still debating if I want to swap out shields for ranged tbh

[stiff breach]

ill probably run those 4 too

i was thinking about overshield if that works

[obtuse chasm]

I mean it’s a valid option since you’re running conversion

But I like to switch my 1/2 to much for Damage reduction

And don’t use over shields on efrideet very often

Maybe elemental, overshields, health, def

[stiff breach]

maybe

my friend keeps asking me for a jaren build but im like my build is for t6 only lol

if i was to save for HH which T do i need

[obtuse chasm]

If you’re saving save for t6

[stiff breach]

so its t0 or t6 no inbetween

[obtuse chasm]

I mean I guess t4 would be good

But personally she’s a beast at t6

2 more arts to be 102k 😔

My luck is atrocious rn

[stiff breach]

i hate the materials you need for the web thing

[obtuse chasm]

Emanare? Yeah you need mass amounts which is lame but luckily they’re not to hard to get I just don’t like the artificial essence side

Would rather use those for arts, but I have 1300 saved up so I’m chillin rn

Hopefully next phase doesn’t drain em all

[stiff breach]

i dont think next phase will but definatly next season

i just hope they dont make us regrind artifacts again

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah resetting next season is going to be a pain, hopefully they give us some sort of refund even if it’s not the entire thing, or some type of reward for maxing it

Just realized you’re NA and I don’t have you added 😔

Also cordon emblems being temporary is lame

First 1 is understandable but tiers 2/3 shouldn’t be

[stiff breach]

genarrows?

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah

[stiff breach]

your friendlist is full lol

[obtuse chasm]

Oof let me delete some peeps

[bold fog]

how do u know the pattern to the eye thing

[tropic swift]

Did your account get compromised @indigo solar?

[stiff breach]

oh @obtuse chasm im wondering lol whats my showcase look like i keep forgetting to ask my friend who plays too

[bold fog]

this is the most incoherent thing I've ever seen
only trial and error
what's the pattern?!

[obtuse chasm]

It’s empty lol

[stiff breach]

how do i fill it lol

[obtuse chasm]

Archives then click on the showcase on the bottom right

[stiff breach]

ty

never knew that

[obtuse chasm]

Yessirrr I might remove all mine until I actually start building some other characters back up, been mainly focusing ikora and efrideet since the update

[stiff breach]

lol now i can show i spent too much on this game lol

t6 ikora was because i was bored waitin gfor them to tell us if they were going to do reruns and i was waiting for HH but at the time people said ikora was busted and fun vs HH

and i didnt spend a single penny on ikora lol

[sweet urchin]

Which modifier are you using for this chaos today?

[drowsy cypress]

thay will. U can use old artifact till Ph4

[stiff breach]

i meant after regrinding level 90 s5 versions

[drowsy cypress]

thay will be 100lvl

[stiff breach]

then theres no point in grinding lol

[warm phoenix]

Do some of the newer abilities seem……similar?

Its a lot of “dash, reload weapon”

[bold fog]

i did the quest how do i get the signature

[oblique geyser]

Ascend lvl 1 @bold fog

[indigo solar]

yeah, the internet archive data breach

fixed now tho

sorry about that

[bold fog]

wtf how do ppl have that

[indigo solar]

💸

[oblique geyser]

40 character Stones
You can get it free or may for it

Pay

[broken trellis]

Emanara will stay till S5?

[empty kettle]

Yes

Then it will reset and possibly get changed for s5

[broken trellis]

bruh

[empty kettle]

It's seasonal

[bold fog]

nty

[worn trench]

I have Hairkora now yay

Too bad that Wardcliff is bugged, it could have been great to run

Pic unrelated

[broken trellis]

whats wrong with wordcliff? i got it almost maxed

[bold fog]

idk but a low-range rocket is so sus

[worn trench]

Something something range registering improperly aka not doing that much damage I think

[west violet]

S5 will bring back HH and Maru and featured Emanara Chars will switch from Gwynn\Estella to those both. At least that’s my hope lol

[drowsy cypress]

i guess, every season is 2 new chars+ 2 old one now

=6 emanare

(2 from old one run)

[empty kettle]

Imagine we get 2 questions marks as the featured characters

[fiery marsh]

Soo... furies lll is the new BIS for estela?

[lone lion]

Whcihon2 ok thanks man

[fiery marsh]

We tested it with another packmate... furies III does more dps than heir now

In fair play raid, heir beats furies III. But in everything else furies is just better now

Mainly because of the mods equipped on the mythic LMG for the 40% primary weapon dmg and 40% mag increase.

Furies III catalyst 3 gives 40% + another 40% from primary ammo mod
40% mag from double mag mod turns the furies magazine to 68, which allows you to shoot over 120 rounds per mag due to catalyst 2 that refunds ammo on precision hits

In testing, furies III is hitting 2x the dmg per bullet than heir apparent.

[raw rampart]

best hunter build rn?

mb

[bold fog]

100k lmao

[oblique geyser]

Mmm that would need more test with different artefact setup i guess cause heir summon génération is insane and furies doesnt come close to that even if dps can be pretty good for a primary

You can unload 308 ammo with right mods and générate a sh!t tons of summon for 30 sec

From my test heir is better than furiez but it dépends the fight and content you do

Like in expanse, furies + venom is literralt cracked up

[lone lion]

Can someone send me a good Estela build please

which should I focus on?

[oblique geyser]

Btw im using solar > ability > sig and weapon stats on arte

[fiery marsh]

The packmates estela 100k power is running the same build and artifacts with solar over super and didn't hit the same dps numbers running heir vs furies lll

[oblique geyser]

Will retry tonight but i had a difference on my side with heir
And my furies was fed with 40% mag and 40% primary dmg

Ability génération is just way better with my summon

On another note, my emanare is maxxed for signature ability dmg etc..

[lone lion]

Thanks bro

[lone lion]

Which artifacts are you using on her?

[fiery marsh]

Im running ring of abundance + ring of conversion + bellicose pact + responsive pact

[obtuse chasm]

No problem and this is what I’m running on efrideet rn

[lone lion]

Thanks bro and for Estela?

[obtuse chasm]

I haven’t built my Estella other then for fair play raiding tbh, @fiery marsh could help you with that tho

[fiery marsh]

What tier is she?

I've got several viable builds depending if shes t0 or t6

[lone lion]

T0 bro

[lone lion]

Thanks bro. I appreciate it

[fiery marsh]

Better to run weapon dmg build than summon build it'll do more dps

Nourishing pact, Ring of Conversion, inverted Fury and belicose planetismal

Summon builds would only do more dps if ur t4-t5

[lone lion]

Ahhh I get you, thanks. I might summon on her when she returns but I want to get helhest tbh

[fiery marsh]

Get at least t5 if ur going a summon build

[lone lion]

🙏🏾🤧

[lone lion]

Will see when it returns

[fiery marsh]

If u had her at least t1, you could swap Nourishing pact for Ring of Abundance

But u don't have other sources of healing so nourishing pact would be best for now

[lone lion]

Cool man. I'm taking screenshots buddy

[fiery marsh]

Basically Nourishing Pact + Ring of Conversion will allow you to heal and even build max overshield fast as you spam summon ur illusions.

Inverted fury + bellicose planetismal is going to get you 70% weapon damage and running with furies III, the dps from the gun alone is gonna hit like a freaking freight train

Its basically a F2P t0 Tankstella build

[sharp talon]

crimson and eternal death for arc and void shotgun for void yes

[fiery marsh]

Or run Jolder :3 for impact

[dusty spire]

Ngl she’s heavy

Cleared 40 expanse np np

[golden spade]

Yo! I have a T6 Estella. What's the best build for her? Do you mind sharing

Also screen shots if you may, please 🙏. Thank you

[fiery marsh]

Yeah my Jolder and Estela are 100k power atm xD

[dusty spire]

Love her!

[fiery marsh]

I posted a damage video earlier that shows her artifact build. Its at the last part of the clip

[fiery marsh]

Yee, have you tried Radiation Build on her yet? Shes even more cracked with that build now

My shield throws hit about 500k now and my partridge sky hits for 1.1 mil on a heavy slash. Its freaking nutty

[dusty spire]

Not yet

[fiery marsh]

And the fact you can build rage meter for max retribution stacks immediately after a shield throw... is so nice!!

I tried her standard build running inverted guard + bellicose planetismal. It felt super clunky and sometimes takes forever to fill up that rage meter

[dusty spire]

Full set or partial?

I’ll give it a go the last time I used it was on finnala I hated it lol

The survivability for under light runs …..

[fiery marsh]

I've done 2 different ones which both works

Ring of Abundance + Ring of Safeguarding + bellicose radiation + rampaging radiation

Otherwise the full radiation set works to if u wanna be tankier

[dusty spire]

I can see it blasting so long your within the requirements

Oh nice ok I got 2 already with stats I need

Weapon sig damage solar?

Since I’m running part

I’d just get a void copy later if the build works for me

[fiery marsh]

You lose out on 19% weapon dmg compared to the inverted fury + bellicose planetismal.

But it makes up for it cause you get 51% weapon and ability damage

[dusty spire]

Didn’t enjoy the grind yesterday….

[fiery marsh]

And I went void over solar cause them shield throws hit hard now

[dusty spire]

Ahh makes sense

Ok I’ll build one ima do a trust me bro on this one

❤️

[dusty spire]

I’ll try this

[jagged osprey]

I just maxed Hier last week <_< now I gotta farm another 300~ cores to max furies

[white yew]

Bro take off furies please

[hoary agate]

You could play Wolf.
Why have choices when you could only have one exotic to consider.

[white yew]

Heir is way better dont switch

The gun is bad there is no excuse to using furies

[fiery marsh]

Idk man... hitting 20 mil in 15 seconds? O.o

Also no need to worry abt heavy all game with that kinda dmg?

[white yew]

Brother

Go look at the great hunt leaderboards or anything and find how many ppl ran furies

[fiery marsh]

Of in fair play Heir is better... cause no catalysts

[white yew]

Furies is terrible and always has been since they fixed heir apparent and estella

[jagged osprey]

Great hunt requires nothing to participate lmao

[fiery marsh]

Furies lll is better at everything else that not free play bro

[white yew]

Even in hard non fair play heir is better

The gun literally can have 300 bullets in it

[fiery marsh]

And furies does x2 the dmg per bullet vs heir

And has 120+ shots before mag empties

[jagged osprey]

Theoretically let’s say they are around the same DPS. Furies would still become better because you can run it with a Arc or void heavy to deal with other shields

[white yew]

Doesnt matter cause ur not hitting the reqs for estellas passive

[fiery marsh]

Did you even see the damage?

[white yew]

Have you used heir?

[fiery marsh]

My pack mate I were streaming the damage tests to compate

Compare

He was hitting 14k per bullet with heir while I was hitting 28k per bullet

[white yew]

I would agree to that but the void pulse is stupid if ur not using it and the solar pulse has glutton and ifykyk ab glutton its stupid

[white yew]

His build is garbage

[fiery marsh]

Lol! Show me ur dmg numbers then

15 seconds

[oblique geyser]

I'll do my maths tonight but my last test was giving heir clear winner

[white yew]

Can you 1 phase issakis with furies?

[jagged osprey]

I can test Hier right now if you want. I have a my old perfect artifact build and a max Hier on T6 Estella

[fiery marsh]

Uhh yeah? I am doing 1.3 mil per second

With furies

[white yew]

If u can do that faster than my estella or efrideet than go for it

[fiery marsh]

Lol I can do it even faster with umeko

[sharp talon]

they scheduled the tweet on the wrong day 🙈

r they serious

[fiery marsh]

What tweet?

Issakis isnt even a good test man...

[white yew]

They changed his HP

[sharp talon]

maintenance

[white yew]

Ning A5 T6 cannot 1 phase him anymore

[fiery marsh]

Yeah and I can still 1 phase it

[sharp talon]

someone a5 ning? 💀

[white yew]

My goat xzombiex

[fiery marsh]

Ning has the lowest boss dps

Even at a5

[white yew]

You dont know ball

[fiery marsh]

Hes not built for boss dps man

[white yew]

For the longest time zombie out dps'd tan-2's in boss dps for short bursts

Even when estella dropped

Same thing

[fiery marsh]

On boss phase? Before season 4?

[jagged osprey]

12mil in 16 seconds

4/4 artifacts before you ask

[white yew]

Do u have the weapon mod on for your primary?

[fiery marsh]

Thats 12 mil 16 vs 21 mil in 16 with furies III x.x

[jagged osprey]

No new mods yet. Wasn’t investing till meta was discovered

[white yew]

Yeah the new mods are stupid on heir

U get 340ish bullets in a mag

[fiery marsh]

I doubt the 15% dual weapon gonna make that 9 mil difference in damage

[oak temple]

😭 Estella's main dmg is not even from her guns and you're arguing about which one has bigger dmg

[white yew]

Its about what gun procs her passive the fastest

[jagged osprey]

The new Fury build just looks fun tbh

[white yew]

And the most effective without needing to reload

[jagged osprey]

In expanse it means you’ll never need to worry about ammo lol

[fiery marsh]

U forget that you get over 120 shots on furies III now

[white yew]

You get 300 in heir apparent

[fiery marsh]

And reload canceling is a thing

[white yew]

And an arc shield and u can reload cancel it too

[jagged osprey]

@fiery marsh question tho, what’s the best mythic mg now

[white yew]

And the arc shield reloads the gun

[fiery marsh]

Doesnt matter what mythic MG. Just match the element ur fighting to pop shields and swap back to furies III for dmg

[white yew]

So ur gonna use the crota lmg to pop shields?

[fiery marsh]

Im only using LMG for shinkas and elemental shields

I got 1 of each element

[white yew]

Yeah nah ur tweaking

[fiery marsh]

Depends on what im fighting

[white yew]

Also ur running wrong artifact in slot 1 for estella

Use the summoning gives u HP

Thank me later

[jagged osprey]

Nah that’s booty

2x rings is the way to go

[white yew]

Its not it gives overshield on summon

[fiery marsh]

Your summons heal you when it damages enemies

[jagged osprey]

Yeah oversheild means nothing if you ain’t healing

[fiery marsh]

And ring of conversion converts overheal to overshield

[white yew]

Pressing summon heals you and gives u over shield if u have 2nd artifact as ring

[fiery marsh]

Look at the video and see the overshield

[white yew]

Just put the artifact on and your life will change

You literally press a button and get a panic heal and overshield if ur already full without needing the summon to do anything

The summon can instantly die and you still benefit from it

[fiery marsh]

Its also a set where I can plug it on other characters, not just for estela man

[white yew]

Then farm another set

[fiery marsh]

Think about it

[barren phoenix]

For efrideet… is the exotic HC from the BP with Zico better? Or Jezibaba with cloud strike better?

[white yew]

Exotic HC Zico for expanse and burst dps

Jezibaba and cloud for long term damage cycles with a big crit

Also if u wanna know ab real tech efrideets javelins count as sunmons

[fiery marsh]

It counts as summons as long as u dont hit red bars

Gotta hit only elites and bosses

[white yew]

Cause they die instantly

[fiery marsh]

Also im waiting for your damage video btw

[white yew]

Tbh elites also die instantly unless there isnt a wall behind them

[fiery marsh]

Someone already showed a vid hitting 12 mil in 16 seconds on heir xD

Or a pic

[white yew]

Im not getting up to my pc to record damage when ive done every single raid in this game Day 1 top 5 every time

[fiery marsh]

Yeah in fair play raid

When everything is set to base which I agreed that heir is better in fair play xD

[white yew]

In issakis we literally had the fastest non fair play dps time for a while

And in rota where fair play didnt work btw

The only 2 exotics i purposefully dismantled are furies and trinity ghoul

[fiery marsh]

In normal gladsheim, I even went inverted fury + bellicose planetismal and did 53% boss dmg running furies III xD cause I was hitting 500k per 3 round burst on the boss

[white yew]

Furies is terrible estella needs an LMG with a big mag and fast fire rate

[white yew]

His crit spot is 4x

[fiery marsh]

Yeee

[white yew]

You can do the same thing without aiming with heir apparent with way less effort

[fiery marsh]

During boss phase, you forgot to mention, when we summon our super, the rate of summoning is the same for illusions

[white yew]

The bar build up is what matters

[fiery marsh]

Cause of the super builds meter

And also theres a cap on firerate as to how fast that meter builds up

[neon pebble]

23hr 46 mins

[white yew]

Im glad i get to finally T6 a limited character

[fiery marsh]

Gwynn is aight

[neon pebble]

Her ability spam is so good 🔥

[white yew]

Since ive been playing on T3's and T0's the whole time ive been on this game

[neon pebble]

T6s arnt nothin special. I barely even play Ning/Jaren

[white yew]

T0 Rossi Expanse is still the stupidest thing ive done

[neon pebble]

Bows can maybe be hyper good now with mods

[fiery marsh]

Idk why you say furies III is garbage when my damage numbers are through the roof still 🤔 🤔 🤔

[white yew]

I just wish we got a new exotic crossbow that doesnt zap his entire passive

[neon pebble]

I too test against shinkas sometimes, x4 dmg makes me feel cool also

[fiery marsh]

Thats not a shinka man

[fiery marsh]

Lol!!!

Rematch that video

[neon pebble]

Erm wha? @fiery marsh

[fiery marsh]

Rewatch the video

[white yew]

Tbh if i had my characters leveled up then yeah id say damage testing is real

[fiery marsh]

That ain't no shinka

Thats a servitor

[white yew]

But cause i need to be 99k Light to damage test its not worth it for me to bother when ive done the same damage testing before and can just redo the math i did 8 months ago

And just add the mods numbers and figure it out from there

[neon pebble]

Yayyy

[white yew]

FINALLY

[fiery marsh]

Yeah my packmate buddy is also 100k power running same offensive artifacts but swapped super for solar

[neon pebble]

I think ima realistically T2 her but T6 would be nice

[fiery marsh]

So he had all the advantages

[white yew]

THEY FINALLY FIXED HER ORBS BEING EATEN ON TELEPORT

[fiery marsh]

And all you can say is my pack mate is garbage? O.o

[neon pebble]

Super > Solar in that video. Super also gives a self dmg buff when using Supee

[fiery marsh]

Yeah but solar boost illusions dmg, Heir apparent dps as well

[jagged osprey]

Pity is carried between other limited banners. I’ll grab a single copy and move on

[fiery marsh]

And also super benefits from it

[neon pebble]

She finna be fire bruh, now she can rack up orbs and spam Sig ability over and over.

[white yew]

20x orb nukes are real

[fiery marsh]

Anyways is this video i just posted a shinka or not?

[neon pebble]

Concerto shotgun x2 reloads, then into Super for the T1 60% dmg buff and 20x orb nuke 😭

[fiery marsh]

Id like to know cause clearly you do for some reason xD

[white yew]

Im just curious did u clear great hunt during leaderboard rush?

[neon pebble]

Bro we gotta make vids of whole screen nothing but void orbs!!!!!

[fiery marsh]

U keep talking about great hunt where fair play where everyone is set to t0 and mods dont work

[white yew]

Im asking you if u cleared it

[white yew]

Nah fr tho

The only person ik who has T6 is azalliyah so i gotta see if its actually a nuke

[fiery marsh]

And I already said heir is better than furies III in fair play bro

[fiery marsh]

But with mods and everything else, it looking like furies III is doing better

[neon pebble]

Was only smart one of us all, but I aint goin HAM on 1st limited

[white yew]

I just want a 5 star character with an auto rifle

[neon pebble]

Now I am

Mythic Wolf incoming

Wolf the Sentinel

[white yew]

So i can make use of the 5 different auto rifles in this game

Or mythic xuan wei

[fiery marsh]

Do you know what fair play is my man Ryft?

[white yew]

You havent answered my question if you cleared great hunt on leaderboard rush

[fiery marsh]

No i work all weekend man

[white yew]

I did aswell

[fiery marsh]

Yeah 12 hour shifts

[white yew]

Yep

[fiery marsh]

Not gonna make time and have no sleep

But do you know what fair play means?

[white yew]

Atp just look at my profile in game

[fiery marsh]

Cause you keep talking about raid race

But not mention fair play. Where i already agreed that in fair play heir would be better

Basically no catalyst or weapon mod buffs affect the guns

Everything set to base lvl

[cobalt beacon]

Dude furies is the goat

[fiery marsh]

Hey likely

[cobalt beacon]

@white yew do you know what fair play is dude

[fiery marsh]

I was testing earlier with Fallfromgrace earlier and Ryfty boy said hes trash xD

Cause furies III does insane damage now

[white yew]

Do you know what fair play is @cobalt beacon

[cobalt beacon]

@white yew do you know what fair play is?

[white yew]

@cobalt beacon Do you know what fair play is?

[cobalt beacon]

Do you?

[white yew]

Do you?

[cobalt beacon]

Do you know what fairplay is?

[white yew]

Not all fish live in the same sea

[cobalt beacon]

You gotta turn that frown upside down

[white yew]

Not having a sword and not using a sword are 2 different things

[fiery marsh]

Dude thought I was dmg testing on a shinka xD

[grand panther]

I think I might be movin in circles, atleast I’m not going backwards

[cobalt beacon]

Hmm interesting

[jagged osprey]

Bro doesn’t know my goat likely

[cobalt beacon]

I love ryft hes a #50 goat

A big bangershot i would say

[fiery marsh]

Di you clear stage 10 in cordons?

Cause you like asking me about raid race and stuff

[cobalt beacon]

@white yew damnnnn

Me personally

[fiery marsh]

Just wondering my boi

[white yew]

I only get on the game for the important bits

[fiery marsh]

Oooh ooookay then...

[white yew]

Not cordon where im watching @cobalt beacon shoot a boss from 300 meters away with a handcannon/scout rifle

[fiery marsh]

Did you also max out fires III?

[cobalt beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288648370067345448/1404556006314475640/thinkmonkey.gif

[white yew]

I did and i dismantled it

[cobalt beacon]

Same

[white yew]

Its garbage end of story

[cobalt beacon]

I had 2 now have 0

😅

[fiery marsh]

Likely ur missing out cause after its buffs, it cracked

[cobalt beacon]

What buffs

[fiery marsh]

Thats why I keep posting this video man

Ryft keeps saying its garbage even with these numbers

[stark forge]

so it does same number with ultimatum ?

[fiery marsh]

Ultimatum hits like 18k per shot

[white yew]

glutton x20

[cobalt beacon]

🔼

[stark forge]

hmm then still junk consider doing same dmg with ultimatum

[fiery marsh]

Not really when u fire over 120 bullets b4 it empties and increases fire rate when fired over time

Ultimatum x20 stacks of glutton

[stark forge]

120 bullets sounds ideal fire rate buff not so much, furies fr buff = ultimatum base fr

[fiery marsh]

Thats 9-10k dmg less per bullet

[white yew]

Xuan Wei Clears

[fiery marsh]

How is ultimatum doing the same damage guys?

Not even close

[lean burrow]

furies is insane with the new mods

[cobalt beacon]

Guys guys estella is 💩 who cares

Gwynn buffs incoming

[lean burrow]

even though everyone was running her in great hunt lmao

[cobalt beacon]

T0 slop

[fiery marsh]

Yeah hitting 9k more dmg per bullet at 120+ shots per mag and faster firerate... clearly the same bro

Clearly ultimatum is the same as furies xD

[lone lion]

Thanks alot bro. Will definitely build her up

[stark forge]

9k is a small improvement ur summons still doing all the work

[lone lion]

You from South Africa?

[cobalt beacon]

Yes

[white yew]

Thats untrue or a T6 thing

[cobalt beacon]

Gwynns so good now after the buffs

[pine verge]

Super doubles corruption gain I think thats what he is referring to

Also I agree furies hits quite hard

[fiery marsh]

Thats not a minor difference man xD

In a span of 15 seconds? It's a big difference dude

[cobalt beacon]

@stark forge just agree that furies is better already

[fiery marsh]

🙂

[stark forge]

adding only a few hundred k more dmg is not a big improvement its still wack

[cobalt beacon]

All the power to the estella players they already play a subpar character so

🙏

[stark forge]

does not justify over building lmg exotic

[cobalt beacon]

Thunderlord is the goat

[fiery marsh]

I got thunderlords maxed out too

But still hits 20 mil in 15 26 mil in 20

Oh wrong vid

There

Woops

Wrong one again

[white yew]

Using T Lord = Bricked till patched

No point in showing it off since its literally bugged

[fiery marsh]

More like 25 mil in 20

[pine verge]

Thing is furies does that literally all the time. Even outside of funny boss dps rotations.

[pine verge]

Furies has me a changed man, I now crave general damage percent to pump those numbers

[fiery marsh]

Thunderlords despite the bugs atm does more dmg than heir atm

Plazookas ran a dmg test

[white yew]

Its her bis if they fix it

[white yew]

Idk who that is nor do i care

[jagged osprey]

Bro no one’s gonna smack talk my Estela. She’s the best

[fiery marsh]

Also keep an eye on the 15 second mark

It hits 20 mil as well in 15 seconds on an exotic lmg

[white yew]

Also tbf ur damage tests should be done with no artifacts on

[west violet]

You think the buff’s are enough?

[fiery marsh]

Why would that matter if both weapons using the exactly the same artifacts

The difference in damage would stay constant

[cobalt beacon]

No

🥹

[white yew]

Just take off artifacts = less math being done to figure out how much ur actually dealing

[west violet]

Hahahaha I think the same but at least there is some hope

[fiery marsh]

As u can see in the tests, furies III is already hitting same constant dps as thunderlords

[white yew]

Bro just take off artifacts and rerun tests

[cobalt beacon]

Dw when she drops people will finally realise how bad she is and complain

[white yew]

Real

[cobalt beacon]

She will get major buffed

[white yew]

Sidearm buff when?

[cobalt beacon]

🔼

Nah bro trust if you just put the mod 40% dmg increase mod on for concertos you realise they still suck😂

[jagged osprey]

Gwynn re-run today or tomorrow

[pine verge]

The 40% primary damage is a gamechanger for exotic primary weapons fr

[cobalt beacon]

Apparently not for concertos😂

[west violet]

That’s the play. And hopefully NetEase gives her a major buff after all the complaining 😆

[jagged osprey]

Sidearms are dookie that’s true

[pine verge]

So real. It barely works even with that buff

[white yew]

I better see sidearms buffed

[digital briar]

is the gwynn draw released yet

[white yew]

Her super changed to virgils judgement cut

[cobalt beacon]

They want you to use concertos so bad just for them to be so bad

[pine verge]

Though the concerto stacking on assist is pretty good atleast I guess. And it smokes red bars(just like mythic weapons! Wow!)

I still use them because reloading is a nightmare

[fresh moat]

T6 Gwynn bricked my account first go around 🥲

[pine verge]

If gwynn was released today she'd have ikora's tp

[fresh moat]

She’s bad

[pine verge]

Reload and no goofy aah anim

[white yew]

I think they need to make her tp either reload or rework concertos into heavy frame sidearm

[pine verge]

All that nonsense to get mogged by jaren pressing 1 button

[cobalt beacon]

Handling also sucks 😭

[fresh moat]

Don’t they reload off of kill assist now?

Man wants auto loading concertos

[pine verge]

Yes, it works surprisingly well

[white yew]

Idk bruh but they suck

[pine verge]

Wdym? I never thought the handling was a problem

[white yew]

Like ngl we need bait and switch on concertos

[fresh moat]

That’s not gonna help

They just suck

[pine verge]

You can empty enough concerto to spawn 1 void spirit, and then swap to shotgun and nuke with orb combo and it refunds the 2 cadenza stacks

Because the concerto got an assist

[fresh moat]

Useless exotic. Never thought there would be a more useless exotic than sweet business but here we are

[pine verge]

So you can also just tag elites enough to get it rolling and then use it to kill redbars

[white yew]

We need an A5 Gwynn to test and see if the 40% makes concertos good

[pine verge]

I think gwynn has bigger problems than concertos

[west violet]

Gwynn is just a paper tiger without a big rework imo

[fiery musk]

Still any of those around?

[fresh moat]

$700 to see if an exotic is viable is insane

[digital briar]

i thought gwynn is gonna have a another draw event what happened

[pine verge]

24 hrs roughly

[fresh moat]

Tomorrow. It has a counter

[white yew]

I can convince zombie to do it

I lied i cant do my boy like that

[digital briar]

can someone tell whats going on with gwynn i dont understand whats wrong witn gwynn

[white yew]

I mean tbf 700 dollars to see if concertos is good seems worthwhile imagine the expanse stages you can clear with those bad boys

[digital briar]

i play casually

[white yew]

A whole 3

[fiery musk]

I need to get around to logging in... should at least finish the battle pass.

[lone lion]

Is it good?

[cobalt beacon]

Even with that 40% dmg increase she will just be worse jaren its really only a 20% increase a5 for a5

Its better looking at it from like a1

[white yew]

Hmmmmmm

[fiery marsh]

@white yew hard to pause at the right time but the dmg diff is negligence

[cobalt beacon]

If your playing casually its fine

[cobalt beacon]

Because tlord is bugged xd

[pine verge]

Gwynn works fine especially after concerto buff, shes just worse than jaren really

[white yew]

Octant tech on gwynn with concertos swap

[cobalt beacon]

Worse than jolder too

[fiery marsh]

About 700k diff

Jolder is goated bro

[cobalt beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[pine verge]

idk about worse than jolder

[cobalt beacon]

yes worse than jolder

[pine verge]

I figured theyre about the same

[fiery marsh]

Uhhh her partridge sky hits over 1 mil dmg?

[cobalt beacon]

No

Jolder is way better

[white yew]

Bro you just gotta switch to octant fire the 8 rounds

[cobalt beacon]

Loadout swapping

Your cooking

[pine verge]

I'd have to test it lol I find that hard to believe

[white yew]

Exactly

[cobalt beacon]

Shotguns dont pop impact swords do

[white yew]

Ask @fresh kayak

[cobalt beacon]

🤣

[white yew]

Hes my Jolder #1 Goat

[cobalt beacon]

#1 jolder ever

Until eos

[white yew]

Literally the number 1 Jolder

The only Jolder in fact

[pine verge]

That tells me nothing about their side to side performance though lol

[cobalt beacon]

Jolder always been better than Gwynn maybe with the change tmw we will see a difference but jolder defo better

[pine verge]

I have t0 gwynn and t3 jolder and they feel about the same to me

[cobalt beacon]

Delusional

T0 gwynn is not even real

[pine verge]

Well I dont have t4

[fiery marsh]

Doings this much on first hit and progressively doing more from 3rd catalyst afterwards every 3 seconds. Itll do up to 120% the less heslth the enemy has

[pine verge]

Idk about "delusional". Just my own personal experience

Gwynn should be better mind you, so she needs a buff.

[white yew]

Ngl i think my Xuan Wei gaps Jolder

[cobalt beacon]

T0 for t0 jolder is way better

Same way for t6

[fiery marsh]

Jolder clears ads too fast for gwynn to get her orbs

And gwynn needs orbs for dmg

[white yew]

Well she needs 1 orb with A5

[fiery marsh]

Not gonna spend a grand to a5 anyone dude

[white yew]

You already have T6 on a character and wasted BP mats on Furies

Go all in

[fiery marsh]

Cause I just showed u the dmg diff without offensive arts

700k dmg diff with thunderlords hitting harder

[pine verge]

Gwynn relies on orbs for add clear?

[fresh moat]

T0 Gwynn is poop

And she’s already poop.

[pine verge]

Ngl i dont see her talents changing much either

[fiery marsh]

But a primary getting close to an exotic LMG in dmg is already insane

[pine verge]

Her talents look pretty bad to me

[cobalt beacon]

T1 is strong in single target

[pine verge]

T1 looks fun for funny damage rotations

And t2 should be base kit

[cobalt beacon]

All of her talents are bad tbh besides t1 cause its so early

[fiery marsh]

Now take off ur offensive arts and test so its a lvl playing field and post it

Test your heir

[cobalt beacon]

And her ult without it is more useless than it already is

[pine verge]

But single target is barely her problem she just is slow and clunky

Her orb nukes are quite impressive even without t1

[cobalt beacon]

Single target is her problem xd😂

[fiery marsh]

Pretty much any melee super is garbage

[white yew]

I wanna see what an 20x orb nuke is gonna look like since its gonna be possible now

Without griefing yourself anyways

[cobalt beacon]

She can do ad clear fine its just big tanky enemies she struggles with

[pine verge]

It already is if you stand still lol

[fiery marsh]

Jaren > gwynn

Why t6 gwynn?

[bleak pelican]

[white yew]

Yeah but the patch allows u to "hopefully" tp with the orbs still being on the floor

And doesnt eat them

[pine verge]

In my experience shes just awkward to play more than anything. I havent used her in calamity/cordon so idk about allat. My biggest beef with her is coming from jaren and having cinderblocks glued to me while playing her

[pine verge]

Yeah so you no longer need to stand still. Good change. Bigger radius too so you can heal while you dump shotty ammo in their face and not just blow up

[fiery marsh]

Jaren is just a better impact character than gwynn

He buffed shots hits hard and all pellets guaranteed crits

[pine verge]

He's also just so much more smooth to play fr

[cobalt beacon]

She doesnt do the dmg to justify her being so slow

[fiery marsh]

And we usually always have 8 buffed shots saved

[cobalt beacon]

Shotguns suck in general

[white yew]

You literally cant die playing Jaren either

[pine verge]

Exactly! Just buff her speed or buff her damage

[west violet]

Maybe she will be good at rapid fire 🤡😆

[pine verge]

Jaren is unkillable and Gwynn dies so much more easily while also being slower

[rotund wind]

Real

[fiery marsh]

Its jarens cracked up crits that make shotguns goood

[cobalt beacon]

The only reason jaren can use them is because of his weapon mastery being busted and a really high % that scales well with artifacts

[white yew]

Gwynn needs like a grim reaper passive where on kill builds her a perma damage bonus that has a cap until the mission ends or smth

[rotund wind]

Uber Real

[pine verge]

Precision on shotguns is literally only 10% extra damage. But gwynns weapon mastery does half of jarens on top of that

[fiery marsh]

Or just run jolder 🙂

[cobalt beacon]

I think jaren with a hh super outdpses every char in the game in burst besides maybe estella with hh buffs overtime dmg

[modest tiger]

Sidearms do no damage

[fiery marsh]

She already 1 taps spread and impact shinkas

[pine verge]

All of gwynns damage is abilities. They should double down and make her weapon mastery proc damage instead like maru and efrideet

[white yew]

Sidearms hit for less than fusion rifles

[cobalt beacon]

With the new hand cannon ofc

[pine verge]

Already would work well with the concerto change

Welling light is 120% and gwynns is 60% lol. Gwynn has better uptime but you have limited heavy anyways

[cobalt beacon]

Also gets buffed another 30% with talent

[fiery marsh]

Careful, gen arrows might be here to say effi does more

[modest tiger]

The TED rotation made his damage so op

[pine verge]

T0 brokie here 💀

Over 100 pulls on jaren, t0, I weep

[cobalt beacon]

Im 90% sure she doesnt unless its a multi target situation

As in the lightning chaining so you can do more overall dmg

[white yew]

@cobalt beacon do i swipe ok efrideet still or gwynn for the A5

[cobalt beacon]

A5 gwynn

[white yew]

My goat

[fresh moat]

You’ll be the only a5 Gwynn in the game

[white yew]

Thats why ur my expanse runner

[cobalt fjord]

Efrideet > qwynn

[cobalt beacon]

🙏

[bleak pelican]

correct

[fiery marsh]

Single target dps jaren does more?

[bleak pelican]

know how ikora t6 has that goofy dmg bug

[cobalt beacon]

Jaren does stupid numbers of dmg with the new handcannon

[pine verge]

At t6 I assume

[bleak pelican]

efrideet has a simular thing we found out last week

[modest tiger]

Idk why ppl don’t use it on Jayden

[white yew]

New cannon saved Attal and no one is talking about it

[modest tiger]

It’s lit just free sg damage

[fiery marsh]

I've been trying to tell another guy that, but he was in denial

[cobalt beacon]

Thats what im saying

[pine verge]

I use it on attal hahahaha

[cobalt beacon]

Attal became the new 4* goat

[pine verge]

Idk about all that though

[fiery marsh]

More so than umeko?

[cobalt beacon]

No

Shes a budget hh

[white yew]

Shoot 5 times

[fresh moat]

Can’t be. Ikora deletes things. I seen likely do some craziness

[pine verge]

attal being a budget helhest is a crazy statement

[modest tiger]

UMEKO IS TRACTOR CANNON

[cobalt beacon]

She legit is tho

[white yew]

Switch guns and delete the person off the planet

[dusty spire]

Anyone up for cordon? 9-10

[modest tiger]

@white yew what is the best mythic linear in this game?

[bleak pelican]

it's a javelin bug, which causes it to stay forever and build up dmg indefinitely

[cobalt beacon]

That new void one looks bis

[pine verge]

Her buffing ability is actually terrible in comparison. Just t6 and an artifact afaik

[modest tiger]

The barb roll?

[dusty spire]

I hate this glass cannon stuff players always be doing

[pine verge]

And less speedboost

[dusty spire]

So annoying lol

[white yew]

I havent had the time to test the newer ones but searing mark is stupid good on attal since her mastery works with it

[cobalt beacon]

Jaren the definition of glass cannon with the glass

[modest tiger]

Bro just add in storm chaser and call it a day for linears

[dusty spire]

It’s ok to have offensive

[fresh moat]

I need that for my t6 lmfao

[white yew]

I do think the new linear could be goat tho @modest tiger

The 3 round burst one anyways

[modest tiger]

Oh nvm storm chasers already in the game

[bleak pelican]

it's extremely difficult to consistently do, even moreso than ikora's issue.

[modest tiger]

It’s just purple now

[fiery marsh]

See that first shot hits 3 milly?

[white yew]

When can i A5 a 4*

[cobalt beacon]

@fresh moat you home?

[fiery marsh]

Its so nice!!!

[pine verge]

both the new linears are a lot better than the old one

[empty kettle]

Which side?

[fresh moat]

In a uber 👀

[cobalt beacon]

😩

[bleak pelican]

either way i kinda stopped wanting to talk bout efri anyways ever since she dropped the character slander has been through the roof

[fresh moat]

Talk to me I will teleport

[cobalt beacon]

im here

[white yew]

Tell syd to say jit bruh

[cobalt beacon]

because people keep calling her better jaren!

[neon pebble]

Fr

[modest tiger]

I want celestial nighthawk hunter with still hunt in the game

[dusty spire]

Like I get it big numbers

But those players make everything harder by playing jumping jacks

[fiery marsh]

GENARROWS was one of em

[dusty spire]

It’s not skill it’s big number chasing

[fiery marsh]

We had a debate for awhile aha xD

[dusty spire]

Glass cabins ima call them now

[modest tiger]

How is jayden a glass cannon

[bleak pelican]

i DA already gave calcs to folks for specifically which areas and direct placements either has jaren or efrideet at the top for things and tbh with how diluted this game has become with toons since helhest dropped i find arguments useless

[fiery marsh]

Jaren is so tanky

[pine verge]

Efrideet is real good though

[dusty spire]

It’s ok to be a glass canon

[fiery marsh]

How is he a glass cannon?

[modest tiger]

U lit can’t die on him 😭

[cobalt beacon]

hes not

hes the cannon

[fiery marsh]

Yee

[white yew]

Jaren literally cannot die

[fiery marsh]

He is a tank

[dusty spire]

It’s the player base

[modest tiger]

He’s unlikable and he kills everything

[fresh moat]

Jaren is op. Well likelys Jaren

[cobalt beacon]

like ikora is the biggest glass cannon

[pine verge]

Crazy freudian

[fresh moat]

But I like efris gameplay

[dusty spire]

If your killing everything in cool with it

Your playing offensive

[bleak pelican]

this is the truth, most forget even though some of us are destiny players with our destiny mindsets, this is a gacha game and over time the more of us that leave the more gacha slop enjoyers rise up

[dusty spire]

But if you got damage and you keep dieing what are you doing

[fiery marsh]

Well we weren't killing anything as jaren running cal ops xD

[dusty spire]

Just bring a healer or defender man

And allow yourself more control

[bleak pelican]

eventually the ratio between a destiny player vs gacha player will dip so badly there won't be any actual destiny enjoyers here anymore

[pine verge]

I see more helhests eat all the revive tokens than jarens

[empty kettle]

Can't deal dmg if your are dead🤷‍♂️

[pine verge]

Aping to get that mvp on a character made of tissue paper

[modest tiger]

I’ll be one of the last ones 😭 and ppl won’t know what I’m talking abt

[neon pebble]

Well not getting hit is the best skill tbh, if you dont take dmg you dont need heals. Not everyone can play that way though and the skill gap it creates is brutal

[fiery marsh]

I want my old jaren back 🙁

[bleak pelican]

facts, they'll be like stop talking and drop $5k like we do to t6 everything

[fiery marsh]

Took 3 months to max his power... then season 4 stsrted

[dusty spire]

It’s annoying especially when I’m passing stages with off meta heroes

[fresh moat]

I’ll still be here. I don’t see gacha players enjoying this for long

[dusty spire]

And then end up with 100k Karen and Hikora doing death rolls

They kill then die they kill then die

[fiery marsh]

3 months worth of upgrading 10 power per day xD

[bleak pelican]

just wait when the game drops below 2k players average daily. the netease drip shall begin

[dusty spire]

I’ve seen better comps in practice range lol

[modest tiger]

If they drop hammer of sol titan with wrath of the machine goated choice

And give him unto dust 3

Burning eye

[bleak pelican]

they'll end up dropping a code that gives u 120 free pulls for new users

[empty kettle]

Some variation of siva will be used against us by the fallen

[fresh moat]

& what about us

[bleak pelican]

netease: yeah, what about you guys?

[modest tiger]

GIVE WRATH

[bleak pelican]

for all that we've done we deserve 5 lumia leaves and a single character shard

hey, do u really like fortnite?

[modest tiger]

Yes I was ashamed when I saw gwyn couldn’t double pump

[bleak pelican]

The Critically Acclaimed best gamemode of all time Save the World goes Free to Play Tomorrow

[modest tiger]

I scammed too many ppl on tha game

[fresh moat]

Lmfao

[modest tiger]

They fell for the rainbow crystals

[bleak pelican]

u can't do that anymore, they removed trading in save the world

u can't drop anything to players lol

happened like 2 years ago

[modest tiger]

I quit in 2019

I would make money duping ppls nocturnos

But real ones know the best dps in that game was making 5 of the one variant of the launcher and switching

[bleak pelican]

i have too many of em now i used to craft and hand em out now my storage is too filled

[fresh moat]

Same & grave diggers

[bleak pelican]

then they added element switching and they became redundant

[modest tiger]

Trash game

[empty kettle]

Imagine we faced against light powered siva nanites

[neon pebble]

Is it maintenance day?

[bleak pelican]

it was

[empty kettle]

Tomorrow

[modest tiger]

If it gives wrath

[neon pebble]

#social-media

[modest tiger]

2019 save the world was so fun

[bleak pelican]

if it gives of

[empty kettle]

They post that early

[neon pebble]

The bot is a day early

[bleak pelican]

nah bro the maintenance is on october 83th 2026

[neon pebble]

Nah bro gwynn soon

[modest tiger]

Outbreak prime would be so nasty

[neon pebble]

New limited void lightbearer

Estella and HH will be act2 limiteds no new ones

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-what-gif-25256285

[fresh moat]

Who’s the new character coming after efri

[empty kettle]

Act 2 void

[modest tiger]

They talk about a bee guy

[summer ledge]

Given that the end of season rewards are solar ribbons, we are getting a solar mythic fairly soon.

[empty kettle]

S5?

[modest tiger]

HAMMER?

[pine verge]

There's a placeholder "?" In emanare im pretty sure thats for the new character after efrideet

[neon pebble]

No idea, dont explore all the menus like that

[empty kettle]

Will check that out

[neon pebble]

Gwynn?

[empty kettle]

The leaked void character is most likely finished by now

[jagged osprey]

It’s all fun and games till HH gets re-ran in season 5 (will they finally nerf her)

[pine verge]

They wont nerf HH they'll just add someone better

[bitter estuary]

looking at this i think next char would be solar

[pine verge]

Probably a support that also heals and generates heavy ammo except with vuln instead of damage boost

[jagged osprey]

They could do that. They gonna wait till people dump resources on her re-run

[late thistle]

Hh will get powercrep by a char who give u ammo and super aswell

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[cobalt beacon]

t0 jaren better than a t6 gwynn?

[pine verge]

Im guessing they will have HH run alongside this character

Or back to back

[empty kettle]

That would break the void, solar, arc, void cycle

[pine verge]

kabr ikora efrideet

[jagged osprey]

Bro we had void, arc, void , arc I’m dying for a solar

[modest tiger]

Hammer titan ples with melting point and double flame wall grenades

[jagged osprey]

Nvm Maru was before Jaren

[sullen depot]

hairkora and kabr2.0 fdont count for the cycle

[modest tiger]

They have built in twilight garrison so they can titan skate

[pine verge]

watch HH get powercrept by daddy felwinter

[modest tiger]

Imagine he gets the flaming axe

[sullen depot]

imma call it now. after the likely void rapid fire in act 2, the next char will be solar spread

[modest tiger]

So him and jolder can be meta fo a bit

[pine verge]

felwinter having vuln would be fitting

[golden spade]

Can someone share the best survival build for jaren in cordon?

[modest tiger]

The two ability’s

[empty kettle]

Good thing the leaked void character is a warlock

[modest tiger]

Another one?

[sullen depot]

shield-defense-elemental resist-healing/melee

[pine verge]

Watch it be solar impact sidearm/sword

[modest tiger]

Razelighter

[sullen depot]

actually true. we havent had a new sidearm or sword user for a while so might also be impact. also fusion rifle maybe?

[pine verge]

Double fusion with vex mythoclast as bp weapon

[empty kettle]

Yes?

[sharp talon]

12 on A 🔥

[empty kettle]

The clotho company better bring good weapons

[modest tiger]

Make it D1 vex thoguh where it kills everything in 2 bullets

[pine verge]

ARTo my sweet prince ❤️