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[visual rain]

or if youre speedrunning 2nd encounter

[pine verge]

the real use of warner is mvp farming to flex on casuals

[visual rain]

i dont need warner for that lol

[pine verge]

But big number

[sharp talon]

i calculated:

1 - (1 - 0.2371) * (1 - 0.3944) * (1 - 0.2147) * (1 - 0.35) = 0.76416816215
1 - (1 - 0.2371) * (1 - 0.2147) * (1 - 0.35) = 0.6105815095

so about 15% overall decrease in 15m dr if i removed melee substat

i think thats decent , unless im calculating it wrong

[cobalt beacon]

close range resist is useless tbh in my opinion

[sharp talon]

ye i personally like it a lot

[cobalt beacon]

real

[visual rain]

man i love gambling on 1st enc

except when i lose

[visual rain]

thats 20%

[sharp talon]

ye im talking the actual final dr stat difference, not the relative percentage change

[signal spade]

do i have to be on at reset to keep my expanse modifiers

[normal citrus]

Yup but if u exit and save iirc the game doesn't honor it

[signal spade]

yea i just dont want tomorrow to be like weapons master magic minded

[normal citrus]

I hope it's steel plate or something, I really like killing everything just existing

[sharp talon]

did na reset happen yet? its spike shell and super specialist on emea/apac

[normal citrus]

Oh I meant spike shell lmao

[normal citrus]

Reset in NA is in 6 hours

[summer ledge]

Symmetry may or may not be a two tapping almost aimbot level tracker in PvP.

[visual rain]

what? reset already happened

[signal spade]

reset is literally at 7am est man

[visual rain]

like... 12 hours ago or more

[signal spade]

he meant daily

[visual rain]

ah

[signal spade]

its steel plate rn so i wanna keep it in case tomorrow stinks

[visual rain]

bruh what the hell one person leaves and suddenly the fireteam disbands... its normal mode

we do not need 6 for this boss 😭

[dusk yacht]

ive come to the conclusion that the triumph of Nowhere to Hide for the raid seal gilding is bugged

[visual rain]

which one is that

[dusk yacht]

3 dunks in one attempt and obtain mvp

ive done it on all 3 encounters and nothing

[visual rain]

yeah people have had problems with it but then theres people like me who it counted for and we dont know why

[fringe dock]

@placid drift heyy

[dusk yacht]

i was thinking it was encounter specific, but it doesnt say that in the achievement

[signal spade]

whats the description for it

[visual rain]

it shouldnt be but im almost certain mine was from doing 1st enc

[dusk yacht]

place the eye of njorun 3 times in a single attempt of Gauntlet Onslaught - Elivagar and attain MVP

[fringe dock]

If anyone wants to be friends add me

[signal spade]

i feel like that procced randomly on day 1 in 3rd encounter before we were even done doing the encounter

prob just bugged or has a dumb trigger

[candid phoenix]

I can't get that damn challenge done

i've tried everything

[dusk yacht]

ive done it in all three encounters ts is so dumb

im not surprised cause the great hunt seasonal challenge is also not completed for those who finished it post leaderboard rush

[surreal berry]

Should I dismantle the Lvl 80 artifacts or?... Is it Wurf Transfering At-tri-butes from 80 to 90 Artifacts?

[signal spade]

just dismantle things with rly bad substats

[thin spindle]

got crimson yesterday from morgrans, tested on Efri and its really good

[karmic chasm]

I maxed it for her

Definitely quite fun

Was able to tear through a bunch of under light activities with it

[thin spindle]

I'm gonna max it for sure, I just wanna make snipers, hand cannons and shotties

Maybe sidearms too

I started leveling borealis because the perk to change damage type is so good

[summer ledge]

I did not know it was possible to get double exotics from activities.

[thin spindle]

wow nice 👍

[gray crypt]

Ooh TTF

I love that exotic in D2 but it's so niche use case atp

[sharp talon]

this game wont give me a 5 star undaunted spiral 😭

[summer ledge]

It looks like sparrow racing might be getting some attention soon. There are several sparrows and cosmetics listed as having no current source.

[thin spindle]

i struggled with the controls in my first race, it felt so weird

[summer ledge]

I barely touched it after a few rough first experiences. For whatever reason the default sparrow seemed to be three times faster at base and had infinite boost when certain people used it.

[slow olive]

Why is it nerfing itself as I upgrade it 😭🙏

Like wdym I'm trading 5% damage for 25% more bullets?

[proper niche]

Always have been possible but extremely low chance, just like double mythic characters

[summer ledge]

Losing reload speed, gaining damage and magazine size.

It has been done.

[plucky prism]

💀 💀 💀 💀

[summer ledge]

I think it's safe to say I like Kabr.

[empty kettle]

Can tell

[gray crypt]

Okay so, what HC should I use on Efri if i'm not running TED

Cause I kind of want to run Jezibaba

[iron mica]

Looking for +2
Kordon 9,10 stage

[gray crypt]

#lfg-others

[obtuse chasm]

And people say rewards are bad 😔

[gray crypt]

Right like

Well, my rewards are bad because my RNG is bad

[obtuse chasm]

Crimson, if you’re running cloudstrike then jeziba

[gray crypt]

Yeah I was gonna run CS when I got it

[proper niche]

Nice! Now go touch some grass 😅

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah cloudstrike jeziba would be your best bet then

[gray crypt]

So I'll crack some mythic engs to get a Groll Jezi hopefully

[summer ledge]

If it weren't 1:30 in the morning and I was on night shifts, perhaps.

[worn trench]

I call it the Witnoose thanks to that stupid cheese strat

[summer ledge]

Competition Sight or keep targeting a Titanium Alloy?

[stiff breach]

is til eternal death worth maxing out

[broken trellis]

the new rocket launcher seems good on ikora, each missle from the salvo can proc the blackhole

[thin valve]

Chaos farming day🙏

Watch me go 500 waves

@indigo solar does rampaging pact make sense on ikora?

[dusty spire]

Next week phase is a better one

This one is just a little nudge up but next week we can do some adept blitz and strikes I believe

[west violet]

It’s B.I.S for Ikora imo

[wicked zealot]

Just got done doing mine. Got enough mats to clear expanse stage 30

[sharp talon]

76 spread is so hard bruh

[summer ledge]

Shiver actually feels quite nice with both upgrades together and the new primary damage mod.

Now I need to try and get the new Annihilation upgrade and see what the initial damage buff will let it one shot.

[thin valve]

Nice

Also, since my drill is not cat 3, i dont wanna miss out on -1000 power cus of exotic. What alternative can i use

Mythic primary and truth exotic in heavy?

[sharp talon]

ye

[vapid moon]

What am I doing wrong? I have 52k power and Recommended Powerlevel at Chaos Singularity is 43k

My comets with Spiked Shell are only dealing 120(!) damage?

[obtuse chasm]

A fellow night shifter, W

[obtuse chasm]

Embold/ horror btw pls don’t go for double thumbs 😔

[slow olive]

Friendship ended with Efrideet + Cloudstrike

Efrideet + Izanagi's feels so good

[obtuse chasm]

I can’t get jiggy with either

Nothing is replacing my baby ist

[slow olive]

I just got one

[obtuse chasm]

Just wish it had a better name like cury mury fuk

[slow olive]

hits like a cargo freight

Still weird that they gave a Linear Rifle
Explosive payload

[obtuse chasm]

Yesssirrrr I love it, getting grolls for all the mythic snipers tho for giggles and poop

[slow olive]

Sniper? Understandable.
HC? Makes sense
Bow? Explosive head

But a linear???

[slow olive]

I wish my 4th column wasn't Eager

[obtuse chasm]

Took me two weeks to finally get that bad boy 😔

I gotta get back to chaos

Got 30 mins on my lunch 🥲

[gray crypt]

trusting in this

[slow olive]

The trick with auto-laoding super rounds Izanagi is to swap to HC when you have a dodge available

[vapid moon]

What am I doing wrong? I have 52k power and Recommended Powerlevel at Chaos Singularity is 43k

My comets with Spiked Shell are only dealing 120(!) damage?

Ah and I just reached lv 90

[slow olive]

Super clunky and a lot more troublesome when in phones

But gadam the amount of ultra PP shots I can pump and dump

[bold fog]

does emanare reset on season or stay?

[thin valve]

Is truth goated?

[thin valve]

Reset hopefully

[bold fog]

hopefully? pass it's expensive

[thin valve]

Its is easy to max and if it stays and we will have nothing to do in a month like we had nothing to do for like half a year previous season, it will suck

[bold fog]

i meanwe're lvl 90 not 70 so

[thin valve]

I think next one gonna reset with lvl 100 artis incoming

[proper niche]

Spiked Shell modifier is all about melee nothing else matters, just eat cryon build into close quarters and melee with various modifiers You get to choose from and again...just punch Your way through

[bold fog]

ye there are huge impact mods for spike
should hit 200k not 120

[vapid moon]

Bit when I was lv 40 or so my comets wäre dealing like 20k damage

[thin valve]

Spike shell modifier, + add melee attacks dealing additional damage (impact buff), pair it with dealing +40% dmg to enemies within 10m radius of u and ur good to go

[bold fog]

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[thin valve]

I also have comets and just fly with ning wiping waves

[proper niche]

You must have had different modifiers, realm of the IX is rougelike so every time You start fresh You build from the start

[bold fog]

and so if u have bad rolls just restart

but u can also refresh

[proper niche]

Not sure if new system also counts, it should technically, so check which power up You have equipped on Your character - if You engaged with emanare tree that is

[slow olive]

Not what I needed but I can live with it

[vapid moon]

What Hero and Artefakts wäre u using?

[bold fog]

i dont care, it doesn't matter. the key is high base power and get those buffs for even more casual damage

[gray crypt]

how tf do you forge perks on weapons

[surreal berry]

Leak information or Information shared by Netese?...

[slow olive]

Is it just me or ever since Wigkora there's been less Maru's running around?

Plenty of Ning Fei despite Jaren and Efrideet being present

[surreal berry]

Welll Hand cannon OR Bow is... Okay with LFRifle...

BUT!... With Scout Rifle... BOOM YEH!!!

[slow olive]

Which exotic do y'all even consider the "worst"

DPS-wise, function-wise, handling-wise, etc...

Me personally Old Perfect

Jotunn could've been company but auto-tracking infinite range projectiles is a huge fun factor

[surreal berry]

I personally RATHER use MARU over Both IKORAs...

But because of the NEW Rocket Launcher Exotic... peeps rather use WIG .
Having the ability to Reload with abilities, makes the Rocket Launcher much better.

[summer ledge]

It would appear that some of the gems in emanare are entirely passive and always active.

The ones for increased base melee damage and movement speed on using a melee attack work even when your character has a different ability active.

[west violet]

Yes

[dusty spire]

Gotta farm these recommendations for mods for the extra 100 power 🫣

[marsh mist]

I havent been farming mods and am just missing everything

[dusty spire]

Atleast the maxing element for players can be seen, also these mod attachments are making some of these hero much better!

[marsh mist]

This is a destiny farming game

[dusty spire]

Lmg go brrrr once you start putting the right multiples together

[obtuse chasm]

So weapons have a possibility to come with a perk upgrade, you can upgrade perks if they don’t already have it by consuming a weapon with that specific perk already upgraded on it, in order to make it adept or uncommon you need either a perk that’s already got both of the upgrades on it or a perk with the other option for the perk upgrade. I’m overcomplicating it but once you understand it it’s simple.

[marsh mist]

Perks are easy its the artifact transferring and etc that is hurting my brain

[thin valve]

Why nobody knows what to do in Hvergelmir

[marsh mist]

I literally just burnt a 5* cause i didnt know what i was doing

[gray crypt]

Idk youtube exists, did you tell them that?

[obtuse chasm]

Me and my buddy tested it I had the double thumbs he had Embold horror I thought mine would end up being better due to not having to reload but even with him reloading he had about 2.3-2.5 mil damage in 20 secs compared to my 1.8-2mil damage with double thumbs, that being said I don’t have to reload but he pumped out more damage

[obtuse chasm]

Because it’s a raid requiring mechanics and 80% of dr players play it with their brain turned off

[bitter estuary]

balls

[gray crypt]

higher damage but you can do it for longer so you have sustain

[proper niche]

Normal destiny wasnt much different for this either 😅

[dusty spire]

22k lumi to go and I’ve hit 100k

[obtuse chasm]

That’s how I thought it would work but I’d prefer the higher damage, ultimately no matter how long you can reload for you’ll still be out damaged by it

[dusty spire]

No fomo but now bored lol

[gray crypt]

I have a subsistence/til the end roll i might try rn

[dusty spire]

Like netease hates titans

Or they are holding back the baddies

Mobile gaming ready today for spike shell through the days breaks

Enjoy your day people!

[gray crypt]

okay dumb question

[gray crypt]

Since i don't have the ability to get CS rn, what do i get on Tatara gaze

[thin valve]

Is new exotic rocket launcher any good?

[obtuse chasm]

No it’s bugged

[obtuse chasm]

Don’t use tata please 😔 use the ist if anything

[gray crypt]

but i like tata 😔

[obtuse chasm]

I hate it but only because I dumped a lot of time into it just for it to be mediocre for efrideet lol

[gray crypt]

I figured the arc would be good for synergy

I was using Sidereal for a while

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah I thought so to but sadly it doesn’t work well with her

[obtuse chasm]

Banned

[polar summit]

You gave up on TED? xD

[gray crypt]

HEY NO

well, guess i'[m doing strikes because this ist is terrible

[thin valve]

Huh😭

[obtuse chasm]

Nah I still prefer Ted lol just was testing cloudstrike to see if it was better disappointed with that as well, it feels good but damage is slightly less compared to my ist with full Ted stacks

[obtuse chasm]

Stop the ist slander please 😭

[gray crypt]

no the roll i got

there's legit NO mythic perk on it, PLUS it was a t2

[obtuse chasm]

You never added me 😔 I’m down to grind them out I need a new solar lgl for my ikora

[worn trench]

Wardcliff is the one that’s bugged? Or is there another exotic rocket launcher recently

There’s so many bugs ngl.

Literally the tutorial training ground has 3 activities but to get bonus Lumia leaves you need to do 5, so it tells me I can collect the Lumia leaves but when I go to do it the gauge is at 3/5 and I can’t collect the stuff

[true dock]

yup

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah something to do with it only registering within 20 meters or something for ikoras weapon mastery

[gray crypt]

OH THAT'S RIGHT

send me your ign again i'm in a strike rn

[obtuse chasm]

GenArrows

[true dock]

stonkest jaren in destiny falling

[worn trench]

Wolf’s Signature requires 100% quest completion but even tho I and many already have that, you don’t get the signature for some dumb reason

[true dock]

oh hey gen

[obtuse chasm]

lol sup lightning

Haven’t ran with you in awhile

[true dock]

been on n off

my jaren is the strongest. so i gotta take a break

[polar summit]

Nice!

[obtuse chasm]

Real I only occasionally see you in casual lately

[true dock]

i been playing the division mobile too

[polar summit]

Yes I was doing some cordon stage 10 carries yesterday and no other efrideet could beat my dmg with jezibaba/crimson lol

[worn trench]

Ngl tho, I like that Rising doesn’t have classes. In regular Destiny the class system just feels like a hassle because you need to start over if you wanna try a different kit (as well as a lot of exotic armor and such), and also isolating kinda

[true dock]

San Martin 🔥🔥🔥MAX POWER LEVEL !!!! LIBREDATOR DE AMERICAAAAA

goodnight

[obtuse chasm]

2 more arts to go my luck with defense arts is horrible 😔

Been getting a ton of 5* damage arts tho

[worn trench]

Like we don’t need that shizz, we’re all Guardians/Lightbearers enough with the split and let’s go kick some arse

[gray crypt]

well

another two star

[obtuse chasm]

After pushing expanse a bit I’m almost liking crimson more then ted but for bossing I prefer Ted

[gray crypt]

last log in 6 minutes ago 😔

[gray crypt]

to be fair crimson = free survivability

[obtuse chasm]

I work nights lol I should be on in like 3 hours tho if I don’t pass out after work

[gray crypt]

my timing is so poor LOL

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah and it just feels right, but idk I feel like I’ve been getting good damage from it as well, pushed spread and impact expanse to 40 with crimson and it worked wonders

[obtuse chasm]

You’re good I just work at horrible times lol

I bounce between nights during the weekdays to day shift on the weekends

[gray crypt]

Oh also, roll for sniper

cause i don't wanna use barb lmfao

[sharp talon]

bruh

[polar bolt]

Dude, how’d you get to stage 76 ?

[gray crypt]

Simply different

[olive flame]

Is the campaign quest bugged? I've cleared gauntlet blitz leviathan about 6 times but it still doesn't clear

[obtuse chasm]

I prefer barb but I guess if you don’t want to use it your next best bet would be frat/ horror

[gray crypt]

oh if barb good then i keep barb

idk i figured thumb bad lmfao 😔

[gray crypt]

All three versions?

[olive flame]

Weird, the other two weren't listed.

They are now, guess i just had to complain

[vapid moon]

is it only for me or does spike shell doesnt scale anymore with meele damage? for me it stays at 500 damage doesnt matter what charcter or what other perks i choose

[gray crypt]

It's kinda like your mother finding something you swore you couldn't see

[obtuse chasm]

Yeah lol barbs good it’s upgrades are super good as well lol

Frat just offers more utility, and the other one only offers 1 upgrade and is also utility

[gray crypt]

ahh i got you

shiver good?

[vapid moon]

is this normal? or a bug?

[restive finch]

Is there a glitch for Expanse? I'm seeing some strange times in the rankings.

[oblique geyser]

Havent pushed a lot on impact side, you use Crimson for arc maps and void shotgun for void maps ? Or keep the same setup ?

[main nebula]

every notification I click to create a widget, or connect to discord or any of that stuff just crashes the game 😭

[neon pebble]

1d 23h

[naive ingot]

But I'm already here 😂

https://tenor.com/view/gwynn-destiny-rising-destiny-gif-17091531503173687437

[bitter estuary]

gwynn balls

[naive ingot]

You love my balls 😂

[proper niche]

More is better, and You may claim that You are here but You might be Savathun in disguise 🤔

[naive ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny2-destiny-osiris-savathun-magic-fingers-gif-22869132

[west violet]

I pray for a sweet buff

[naive ingot]

Me too...

[empty kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/mmm-7tv-twitch-slow-nod-nodding-gif-2320915309059887629

[red geyser]

it will bring a bloody storm to the battlefield

[frozen tree]

How tf did you get this how many drops did it take

[obtuse chasm]

Got it week 2 took me the least time out of lol my adepts tbh

[frozen tree]

What do you mean “out of my adepts” I’ve put a handful of hours on strikes for that sniper with not even an uncommon

The time may have come where I am too employed to play this game anymore

[proper niche]

What's Your artifacts build for him?

[proper niche]

Thank You

[frail fractal]

damn

[cobalt fjord]

i think im gonna upgrade and spend a lot of time for efrideet t0

[west violet]

@indigo solar you are around? May i can ask what are your recommendations for the def arti substats for jaren? I think about to switch from shield or health to ranged dmg res but not sure.

[thorny frost]

Spike shell base damage is 500, when you go in the stage and actually select the buff from the choices it will tell what the damage is modified too.

[fiery maple]

Anyone have any advice to reaching 100K power? I'm stuck on 98K+ and rapid-fire endless stage 40 feels impossible on estella

[frozen tree]

Your solution is probably emanare

Unfortunately

[maiden iron]

Anybody know if rampaging pact works on ikora the hidden

[sullen depot]

Yes it does

Her black hole and laser count as summons

[maiden iron]

So how about the new rocket launcher is that any good ?

[dusty spire]

Facts

Free time to grind arts today atleast 1 hour lol

[river vigil]

One day I will get an ascension 5 healing plasma drop. Time to go back to the mines before my meeting

[vapid moon]

Doesn’t matter what character it’s also in the stage itself always 500 damage. Thats the problem. Anyone else also having that problem?

[naive ingot]

Did that this morning lol and got sweet nothing

[native silo]

Does anyone know what artifacts to win on EFRIDEET?

[cyan tide]

Nourishing pact, ring of conversion, rampaging pact, undaunted spiral

Slots 1 and 2 are up to preference but nourishing with ring of conversion gives a lot of overshield so it's pretty nice

[indigo solar]

5* absolutely, 4* absolutely not

[indigo solar]

Elemental/defense/ranged and either health or recov imo

Since you're not running any overshield with him, health provides more consistent survivability than shield

[storm scroll]

Gives a lot in easy connect

[west violet]

So Health it is 😊. Thanks for your response much appreciate it.

[summer ledge]

The new Solidarity upgrade is quite nice. As long as you stay with your team you just never have to reload.

[obtuse chasm]

Get her t1

[obtuse chasm]

Chaos, get used to being there for awhile but take breaks whenever you can or else it becomes boring and tedious

[twilit thistle]

ngl I’m not even sure if one build is going to fit all with these. Saw likely and rawr, two of the top Jaren’s globally, have completely differing builds.

[signal spade]

jarens survivability is 'did i get one shot'

honestly thats pretty much every char now

almost at a chest per minute and i still have only gotten 1 five star this whole time

[summer ledge]

You can have some of mine, as long as you want Kabr artifacts.

[twilit thistle]

Build? That’s been on my to do list as well, collecting numerous completed builds for chaos that can get sub 20 min 50 stage clears

[summer ledge]

I am up to something like 8 or 9 Healing Plasma 5 stars now. For whatever reason 5 stars refuse to drop in the last two columns.

[twilit thistle]

Fr tho likely said healing and rawr said mele dr. 🫠 it means it’s not as impactful as originally speculated

[summer ledge]

Does he benefit from healing bonus? I know some of his talents specifically label caps on healing.

[signal spade]

Just boxer comet nimble

[indigo solar]

Likely is buns at building and melee or ranged is preference

I prefer ranged bc it's better at preventing one taps from snipers but melee is where the majority of his engagements are

[signal spade]

Healing bonus is ok on him but with his precision healing artifact and talent that heals him it's overkill I think

You top yourself just unloading your shotgun anyway

[modest tiger]

Double pump

[dusty spire]

:/

[fallow burrow]

When you realize a kid is too overpowered his mature side takes over

[wide dagger]

🐳

[dusty spire]

I swear not even close lol

[thorny frost]

I wonder if by next season if you will have some of those unlocked now lol. Unless you hold on to their fragments to just take more non titan pictures

[dusty spire]

I’ll keep grey until I have all 40 personal frags

Universals I’ll just use on unlocking first hero I want to T6 to save 60 pulls and then the signature as I progress

Not needed them then I don’t think unless gated I’ll needed them

I’m very particular with what I play or want 😑

[thorny frost]

That is basically my plan too. I am figuring I should (on average) get a T6 every 3 months for 10 dollars a month now if I use the fragments to unlock.

[dusty spire]

That’s the way just have patience forcast and get a hero you want to indulge in

[dusty spire]

Now that we have access to all for access copy for events with fair play no need to waste pulling

[dusty spire]

What’s your overall power now?

[thorny frost]

Yea, saves on average 40 pulls a character (for collectors) and 40 pulls for the unit you are aiming for.

[red geyser]

I still miss one artifact

[dusty spire]

You have your first set done right?

[broken trellis]

what are memory fragments used for?

do you get another copy of efri?

[red geyser]

I am afraid I did not understand what you meant.

[slow olive]

Threat Level or Eternal Retri for Gwynn

[thorny frost]

You can use 40 to unlock the unit, otherwise they are used for the ascension system (small damage boosts). Can’t unlock talents with them

[dusty spire]

Done my solar for jolder but I need to replace one art since she is both rapid and impact. Full impact ok but to heavy weapon focus.

[dark gulch]

afternoon

[dusty spire]

You have the ARC build completed?

[bitter estuary]

b a l l s

[dark gulch]

same

[bitter estuary]

umeko in chaos is op

umeko+spike shell

[dusty spire]

Facts lol

That’s when I grind lol

[dark gulch]

ning + spike shell rn

i sit back and just watch ….chaos….happen lol

[bitter estuary]

ning is good but you cant use his passive iirc

its why i prefer using umeko

[dark gulch]

yeaaahhh. The clones spawn comets from what i am seeing

[bitter estuary]

also umeko debuffs are chefs kiss

[thorny frost]

I am doing jolder spike shell with radiation set, haven’t tried Umeko tho yet.

[dusty spire]

Don’t know how ima get this last 100 power….

[bitter estuary]

im so tired balls

[red geyser]

Unfortunately I did not get 2 arc. One is solar and the other is arc.

[dark gulch]

actually passive might be working

[frozen tree]

Efri with comet balls is funny, you max out her ability recharge time and you spawn a set of comets every second permanently

Works so well in born equal since things get one tapped by comets and spears

[dark gulch]

the clones cause chain lightning effect a bit

def not the exact same as the passive but i will do umeko next

[frozen tree]

Could be comet element that’s causing lightning

If you selected arc they chain lightning

[dark gulch]

let me see

either way im zooming through rooms that arent capture the zone lol

[twilit thistle]

15 meters was not as big as I expected, both of these also come with big cooldowns. Jaren would be blinding everything within that radius not often than not. The point is that these are both not optimal, and we might have to consider an alternate approach 🫠

[twilit thistle]

After 1,000 stages of 1 shots clearing most of the room, spiked shell feels so slow 😭

[thorny frost]

I saw your video for weapon mastery XD. I am going to need to try that with Umeko or Attel (I think she is the only one who triggers her weapon mastery without a skill?)

[golden spade]

How viable is symmetry now gang?

I wana upgrade my kabir and probably use the asend on him

Can u take out spread shinka with kabir 2.0 and symmetry easily?

[signal spade]

3/min seems good on adept

jaren op

spiked shell is good cause you dont have to deal with the minotaur or the hydra

[oblique geyser]

i mean..........

[twilit thistle]

Estela spiked shell boxer comet had very good results ngl. Weapons master Umeko relies on the aoe of concussion and sustained spread when maxed. I used a sniper rifle with frat just so I could run thru it faster

[broken trellis]

@thorny frost is this some later on event? cuz atm you can hold 3 only, am i missing something?

[thorny frost]

Ok so I connected memories to the condensate (other games I have played called those memories), the memories are used to unlock story quests. You can find it in the MIND I believe.

[broken trellis]

should i skip the quest?

i mean the reward is nothing special

[thorny frost]

You don’t need to do them, there are a couple story quest lines I liked. But if you are new to the game it can be something you do later on as a break from the grind.

[thorny frost]

O yea after my comment I started to wonder why I didn’t run it with Estela. I think in the back of my mind I always did boxer with Jolder as punching felt right with her lol.

Need more movement for Estela and Attel >.>

[twilit thistle]

😭 the adept 3 legendary campaigns are horrible

[delicate mango]

Lol is it hard

Also how's everyone doing

[empty kettle]

Yes

[delicate mango]

I see

[bitter estuary]

you need a whole damn ult to kill the incendiors

i used ikora

[cyan tide]

I feel like they're not that hard if you have the right characters, I managed to consistently clear Labyrinth in 4 minutes with Efrideet even without void weapons
The other stages took me like 9 minutes each tho, the shinka/element combos are just terrible this week

[naive ingot]

I've done one, not doing it again.

[sullen depot]

Yeah the LC update def is horrendous. Making farming LC campaign super tedious especially when u need 390 exotic cores for weapon is def not the way. And adept 3 only giving 3-4. If they are upping the difficulty they need to increase adept 3 to give like 10-12 per run or something

[cyan tide]

They're definitely worth farming if you can find a stage that's easy for you. I was getting 4 cores very often
As for the difficulty I think it's partly because most people don't have maxed out characters yet

[oak kettle]

very subpar spike shell run

a lot of slow rooms when they could be faster, probably could be a minute faster

[sullen depot]

Oh yeah for sure. Especially also the other resource u get that u can synthesize for the lattice needed in increasing the star tiers for exotic weapons. But yeah just rn this week its tedious to farm

[bleak pelican]

I'm a nobody

[limber pine]

Cloudstrike worth maxing? Or is the solar sniper still betta

[sullen depot]

Idk if they have fixed or are going to fix the innate 5sec cd cloud strike has

In between lightning strikes

[dusty spire]

How ain’t tried yet

[limber pine]

Yeah I saw this too. Animation needs to finish before another strike hits. Kinda lame

[twilit thistle]

I have ran these hundreds of times, burning pinnacle. Id rather just do the adept 2 ones ngl, its just like chaos. These arent consistent enough.

[cyan tide]

If you don't have the right elements it takes forever to break shields and yellow bars are very tanky

[dusty spire]

Loving how the new mods and emnare are making things feel a bit more friendly for other weapons now 🙂

[dusty spire]

Like a Solo cordon then?

[sullen depot]

Yeah all the released raid exotic weapons have bugs. Will see if they include fixes in the patch notes tomorrow

[dusty spire]

So close to 100.1k

[limber pine]

So I shouldn't bother til it's patched? I've alrdy got TED maxxed

[cyan tide]

Eh, adept 2 feels like it very rarely drops 3 cores. Even if they're easier you'll probably have to farm for longer because the drops are so bad
Adept 3 I was getting 4 cores almost every run

[sullen depot]

Yeah TED + the solar sniper combo is honestly rlly great imo

[limber pine]

Alright I'll just stick to this for now then.

Wanted to try thr jaba with cs

[neat valley]

time to max thunderlord

[limber pine]

We were just talking about maxing the broken guns lol

[twilit thistle]

DONT

[twilit thistle]

Thunderlord is the worst of the 3

[signal spade]

where tf is my bad juju

[delicate mango]

Man I was hoping it wouldn't be the worst

[limber pine]

Yo this rocket launcher is so goofy too lol thing is shooting bottle rockets

[delicate mango]

Soon my friend ik we all seen it on alpha once

[neat valley]

i hate spread characters, so for me its better than the rocket, i refuse to play ikora

[sullen depot]

Yeah the rocket has like no blast radius i don’t rlly like. But like apparently u can break rapid fire shinkas with it lol. U just need 4 ammo to break

[neat valley]

ive always hated warlocks since day 1

[sullen depot]

Ikora might be useful in rapid fire expanse if u wanna have some trolly fun with it

[limber pine]

I tried rocket in expanse since arc and rather run 2 tail than that thing 🤣

[somber drum]

Hey guys I’m new to the server and just had a question about the Menace Above Titles did everyone get the “Skylord General#1” title from leaderboards or is it just a specific title?

[neat valley]

the numbers are based off what place you got

[twilit thistle]

Given the state of legendary campaigns might as well be considering infusion cores best source the black market. This is so inneficent that im just gonna log off this is stupid

[neat valley]

yeah no one wants to farm legendary all day lol

[somber drum]

Wait so I managed to get 1st place? Damn I don’t know I did the gauntlet that much lol

[signal spade]

youre powerful

[limber pine]

Well you might have been the only one running Menace above ngl lol

[somber drum]

Fairs but I got quite a few groups but still I’m impressed with that honestly

[limber pine]

Yes general #1 is something to brag about for sure.

[somber drum]

It’s actually a nice title too ngl the badge itself looks pretty cool

[limber pine]

Yeah u should see the badge for the great hunt 🔥

[signal spade]

you gotta get creative when you have none and put in your name that youre the number 1 xuan wei to do spread expanse in season 3

this way people know youre really good

[twilit thistle]

takes over 100 adept 3 runs per exotic

[signal spade]

just halve it and slam all of your capacitors every week

[empty kettle]

Will have one of my main subclass in here with my playstyle, soon

[limber pine]

I feel like I get them as random rewards somehow. I never do leg camp and always have them lol

[twilit thistle]

Or, just skip the grind and pay, instead of taking on a full time job farming

[signal spade]

wheres the artifact swipe

[twilit thistle]

You could probably farm 100 and still have to use the black market for anyways

[limber pine]

Are you guys farming 5 stars or just waiting to upgrade your 4 star God rolls?

[signal spade]

there is no waiting

[limber pine]

I think ima just wait tbh but curious if it's worth to get 100k

[signal spade]

youll be waiting for years

[twilit thistle]

im 100k and i have 4 stars

[limber pine]

I'm 96k without doing it so I'm like meh

[limber pine]

My emanar is right side heavy atm lol

Haven't done much on the left column

[worn jolt]

Hey everyone how was your day

[signal spade]

[twilit thistle]

Didnt know chaos was that unbalanced. 🫠

[sullen depot]

Never stop

[signal spade]

never 5

gonna die

[twilit thistle]

Wish we had devs that could actually balance the game

[signal spade]

WHO EVEN USES THIS

[signal spade]

i mean i have infinite useless ones now im marking everything for delete

[twilit thistle]

Too much effort, i let them go to mail 😂

was taking about 20 mins to go thru them all, i would claim all of the rewards after 100 stages.

[raw rampart]

guyzzz

idk how to get more power

i’m at 78k

[vale badge]

"Probability to upgrade or overwrite the current upgrade" I'd love to know the probability of that perk upgrade cuz it's 13 fails in a row now.

[remote flame]

how full can your mail be? i might do that

[indigo solar]

1k

[remote flame]

oh wow, def doing that

[restive finch]

Is there a glitch for Expanse? I'm seeing some strange times in the rankings🤔

[signal spade]

ok we're back

1 more to go and i can live my life

[rare zenith]

Bro, how the hell did some folks have already reached 100k+ power lvl?...I have all lvl 90 artifacts (3x 4k power & 1x 3500 power) & my emanare power is 7k & I am barely reaching 93k power...am I missing anything?

[balmy raft]

your emenare is low

and artis

[polar summit]

Max emanare is 10.8k atm

Artifacts 18k

Weapons 29k

If both 4*

[rare zenith]

Oh I see....for the artifacts how much max power for each one?

[polar summit]

4.5k

[rare zenith]

Yea, both my weapons are 4 stars...but my artifacts are 4k

[polar summit]

Ye u prob missing 2k from artifacts, 4K from emanare

Your mythic weapon is prob not adept yet

[rare zenith]

I upgraded my mythic from lvl 80 to 90 & raised it to 4 stars...it already had lvl 5 traits...how do I make it adept?

[polar summit]

You have to forge upgraded perks (they glow yellow) into ur weapon

They look like this

[rare zenith]

I think I need to re-aquire the mythic weapon & forge the perks....I was unable to forge the glowing traits into my power lvl upgraded mythic

[signal spade]

need. more. yellow. gems

[raw rampart]

?

[cursive depot]

upgrade stuff

[onyx crater]

How do I do this quest bro, can’t send pic, but it’s the part where u gotta shoot the “correct eye”

Dumb ahh quest

[signal spade]

lmao

[cursive depot]

there are glowing spots before you starting the thing that lets you shoot the eyes

or keep restarting til you brute force it

[onyx crater]

Yeh I’ve shot every single one bro

Don’t work

[limber pine]

U gotta shoot em in order lol

[cursive depot]

-_-

no order, just shoot the correct ones

[onyx crater]

Bro what’s the order 😂😂😂

Been trying ages

[limber pine]

Gotta guess til u get it right

[cursive depot]

before you start, open your eyes and look for glowing spots

they will be in the spot of where the eyes appear

[limber pine]

Then do them in the correct order after that

[onyx crater]

They’re all glowing

😭😭😭😭😭

[cursive depot]

that means you started it

dont start and look around

[onyx crater]

Lemme see

Ok I got it, I’m actually dumb bro

[twilit thistle]

They r kinda mid tbh they dont change much

[cursive depot]

more power tho

[twilit thistle]

Id give it to u if i could.

[signal spade]

big number big dopamine

[twilit thistle]

Only thing im worse about is mods.

I havent even gotten into them bc adept mods are better

[signal spade]

you can only put 1 adept on at a time i thought

[cursive depot]

you can only put one on

you still want the new mods

[twilit thistle]

😭

[cobalt fjord]

but the t1 is about healing isnt ?

[worn trout]

So its been a hot minute since I last logged in but did so recently and found something odd, did they remove elemfruits as skill up requirements?

[empty kettle]

Yep

[worn trout]

Oh sick, now im just short on glimmer....as usual for an upgrading goblin that I usually am

[haughty swallow]

should've saved me elemental condensate for efrideet. now im at the mercy of rng

[karmic chasm]

This can happen????!

I got lucky on the one I did I guess

[twilit thistle]

estela spiked shell is 🔥

[rotund flame]

They need a pity system on this thing. Had the forge fail like 5 times on the same gun already

[thorny frost]

When it says probability or something. It looks to only happen when you are trying to turn a 1 perk upgrade into a 2 perk upgrade using a 1 perk sacrifice.

[rotund flame]

Is this new smg worth using? And are this the right perk combinations?

[indigo solar]

For the most part they really aren't

[indigo solar]

If that's aggressivity curve yes, though it really doesn't have bad rolls

Should be best smg for runners iirc

[indigo solar]

Correct, the first upgrade has a 100% chance

[twilit thistle]

🥺 👉 👈 do u happen to know any spiked shell estela tech? I thought of trying the solar one, and the arc one, but i was worried if the tradeoffs would become an issue. (and dont know if any of the special gifts synergize with others)

[indigo solar]

Why are you using Estela for spike shell

[twilit thistle]

bc... estela doesnt change. 😭 its still just estela

[tame oasis]

living on cooldown for any corruption

[twilit thistle]

I need movement speed, ovesoul decree with frat provides that. I need overshield, heir stil spins up and provides that.

[cursive depot]

spike, melee comet, ability comet = character choice doesnt matter

rather go for a movement character to go quicker

[signal spade]

where ARE THEY

[twilit thistle]

Its a valid combo. Needs refined tho. Tis lucy proofed

Might help if i actually remember to equip her artifacts tho 💀 she was missing slot 2

[regal gulch]

Lol

At least you farmed well over 2k artificial essence

[signal spade]

drop rates on the 5s is so low

[jagged osprey]

I’m just using Efrideet and flinging spears

[karmic iron]

Are people aware of how bad the star upgrade system is for artifacts? if we get to stage 50 on all the expanse playlists and buy all the occulation essence next week we can only upgrade 4 artifacts from tire 3 to 5. and i dont think there is anywhere else to get them, so we have to grind for 5 star drops even tho i spent the last few weeks upgrading the low star artifacts i spent hours grinding for, and now i wont be able to use them and i have to grind for new ones

[summer kite]

Hopefully higher phases means higher % drop of 5 stars and eventually every artifact/weapon will drop as 5 star, right?!

[signal spade]

they prob want them rare

rather than every player who logs in gets every weapon at 5 star adept for existing but i have no idea

[cursive depot]

the reward level is raising every breakthrough so I would imagine

[cursive depot]

upgrading yea, but you can just grind it out and not have to upgrade directly

and you can still use the ones you have already work for by transfering the stats to the new one once you get a 5* to drop

[charred sail]

A lot of people have been seriously downplaying the artifact stuff. It's really not gonna be easy to farm 'perfect artifacts' to upgrade later since the 5* is such a big power increase. I am still playing the game but there is some serious gap in time to reward ratio right now. I mean just look at Adept III legendary campagin - it's so much harder than adept II and doesn't give anywhere near enough legendary cores for the time it takes to run.

[cursive depot]

ngl people are freaking themselves out with artifacts. so far this week I have gotten 7 5* artifacts and made them perfect (excluding all 45s in the left column stats). Artifacts are honestly one of the easier and more direct things to grind for as of this update

as of right now, getting weapons to adept is more of a hassle then artifacts for a character

[karmic iron]

its just annoying that i got a lot of artifacts and i wont be able to upgrade them even just by grinding materials. there is only 2 ways to get occulation essence and they are super limited. i just feel punished for grinding artifacts early on

simply to have the attributes i want

[charred sail]

The time commitment is definetly getting downplayed. I've spent like 2-3 hours farming for estella still and i've dumped all my mats into them, so I'll need to spend that amount per character which adds up fast. Weapons are the part I don't have an issue with since they can be used cross character.

In general, i don' thave a problem with the atifiact system but having to regrind for ALL characters is hugely annoying.
And if they introduce LV100 ones after all this lowkey gonna quit lol

[cursive depot]

but all you need is a 5* to drop, getting the right attributes is easy and you can transfer any levels you have put into your current artifacts

[charred sail]

This is what I disagree with - i've gone though a lot of artifiacts on estella and have yet to get good attributes.

[cursive depot]

we dont even know if level 100 will be the same process so dont see why you are stressing about that rn

[cursive depot]

are you using the system effectively?

[charred sail]

I'm using transfers with n stats, doing 2/2 with 2/2s, then 3/3 with 3/3 and it's still fairly random

[karmic iron]

my only problem right now is knowing i cant upgrade my artifacts even if i wanted to grind for materials to do it

[cursive depot]

get a 3/4 and then start transfering 2/4s into it. takes me on average 7-10 artifacts to make one with the attributes I want

[cursive depot]

like upgrade them to 5* or upgrade them to 45s on the right hand side?

[karmic iron]

5 star. i havent really looked into the 45s yet. its hard enough getting the gold attributes

[cursive depot]

cuz with the resources we have you can upgrade one set to 5* but you are going to have to grind for your other characters anyways. And in that time you might get lucky and get a 5* art for one of the characters you want to level in the process

Either way your gonna need the essence so keep the drops of the arts you use and maybe you get a 5* and you can just rebuild that one instead of using the resources to level it anyway

if you look at it that way the process goes by alot smoother and overall is really not that bad

but if you look at it face value of strictly leveling the arts up, then yea, your only going to level one characters arts unless more of that resource is sold in the shop or events

[rotund flame]

Dang this guy was cooking with the raid rocket launcher

[karmic iron]

like i know i can just grind for all the 5 star drops again and do what i already did again to get there, it just makes the last few weeks feel pointless now knowing this

[cursive depot]

3* 90s were better than 5* 80s and if youve been grinding you prob have some spares of the arts you use. And if you have upgraded any 90s you can transfer those stats so you havent wasted any essence by leveling those. Outside of needing to grind for 5* version, there isnt much that was wasted in terms of your time

just my 2 cents, O well

[twilit thistle]

80s are good for the emanare tho if u still got them

[sullen depot]

80s dont do anything for emanare

[cursive depot]

if you mean by throwing them on other characters thats totally different from my point, and thats just a time saver for if you dont want to level 90s for those sides characters

[frozen tree]

I think it’s ridiculous that you can’t effectively raise the star level of artifacts infinitely. What a weird timegated resource to have, especially when the resources to upgrade exotic weapons star level is so easy to get infinite of

[cursive depot]

if everyone could just level arts they already had there would be little to grind there, makes sense for a game that switching into something that wants more people to be active

[twilit thistle]

Have u counted how many char we will need for them (9) I meant like if u wanted to throw it on the ones that u dont have built

[frozen tree]

I’m talking about taking level 90 arts from low star level to 5 star, not 80s to 90s. They already sunset our 80 artifacts and now they want to sunset our 90 artifacts too

[sullen depot]

putting a character on the bubble only improves the attribute bonus of that character. it doesnt affect other characters

[twilit thistle]

So i should have said "The emanare sucks"..? misleading?

[sullen depot]

emanare doesnt suck. like i said before its just an adition on top to give ur chaarcters extra juice and power. im getting an extra 10.7k extra power from emanare

[cursive depot]

fair enough , they couldve added enought to level 2 characters sets from 3* to 5* but if you are grinding out more than 1 character you are probably someone that would be willing to just grind for a 5* and level that up anyway

[sullen depot]

and then characters in the bubble gettign additional attribute bonus based on the points their bubble covers

[twilit thistle]

thought the radius of the circle would have impacted it. f.

[cursive depot]

emanare is far better than the artifact system we had

although it does cost a ton to upgrade

[sullen depot]

yeah a biger radius just means ur chaarcters gets more bonuses covering more points

[sullen depot]

cuz they dont want u to hoard mats

[cursive depot]

which is fair

[wicked nebula]

got ikora the hidden from 1% pull yay

[visual rain]

but also 10x more confusing

i still dont know how ts works i just put big circle where good upgrade

[grave kiln]

That's just wrong, it even states in game the deployed character gains the bonuses and you can tell that just by swapping to a character that isn't in a bubble and viewing what their health and shields are before and after deploying them

[sullen depot]

every deployed chaarcter gains an emanare bonus

[twilit thistle]

@thorny frost I think i found the one. I just got hit with the worst stages.

[sullen depot]

im tlaking about the pple who u put in a bubble . that doesnt affect other characters

[grave kiln]

It does though

because putting them in the bubble enhances your overall attribute bonus which effects all deployed characters

[twilit thistle]

So i gave estelas summons rocket launchers.

[signal spade]

yea it def buffs your other characters

otherwise thered be no reason to put them on there or have them there in general

[thorny frost]

This is what I am up to with comet: electric on her (touch screen). So it looks like both our methods are fairly similar.

[twilit thistle]

I also ran shadow step+boxer so i can run very fast to the elites and punch them. Work in progress.

[thorny frost]

I was testing out the Emanare system with it too. The increase base damage to melee attacks doesn’t seem to apply to the increased damage lX favor. But finisher does activate

[fresh moat]

😦 I am so slow lmfao

[cobalt fjord]

CHOOSE spike shell and any thing melee dmg + comet

[bitter estuary]

spike shell is nice

[bitter estuary]

use umeko if you struggle

[thorny frost]

I have never ranked up a dasher XD I don’t have good artifacts for survival for them lol. Most of mine are build for Estela.

[twilit thistle]

U mean ning+spiked shell.

[fresh moat]

Who are you using?

[cobalt fjord]

i got like 36 in 10 mins

[bitter estuary]

umeko is better imo

[fresh moat]

Yeah my best character is efri

[thorny frost]

Anyone who can dash and move around fast will be a good bet.

[cobalt fjord]

ning is the best for fast farming anything

is not that hard to give him good artifact no need for god roll

[thorny frost]

I just never got into him, only ever got him to T1 so just never invested into equipping him. And feeling lazy for the most part to move things around.

[cobalt fjord]

mine was t1 until last week become t2

[visual rain]

C is still passing right? 😭

[cyan tide]

Damn, you weren't even close. What stage is that?

[visual rain]

7

im like barely over power tho so being closer to 100k would help

[fresh moat]

Who’d you use

[visual rain]

umeko 💀

[fresh moat]

Gotta hit them with the big banger shot

[visual rain]

well i dont have an arc primary

but lowkey izi might still be better regardless

[twilit thistle]

feel like i am missing some stages on this run.

[visual rain]

@twilit thistle is the arc mythic scout good

[twilit thistle]

Its like capture stages 3x in a row.

[twilit thistle]

Its arc. but worse than the others, nobody liked it

[fresh moat]

You na? I can try to help. Not all that but I can try

[visual rain]

i mean i was just doing it for the hell of it but yeah

[twilit thistle]

🤔 there are stages missing from this. I wonder how adept is with this build.

[visual rain]

wdym stages missing

[fresh moat]

Add me Tsunamy

[cobalt fjord]

not a big of diffrance if u use melee

[cobalt fjord]

thats was adept with -1000 light

[visual rain]

done

[grave kiln]

I've been averaging close to 48 second laps on adept with spike shell

[twilit thistle]

@thorny frost It passed qc checks. Thats actually better for estela than comet.

[cobalt fjord]

the thing i like about comet that if i melee one close to me the far one died too and sometimes if someone far from me i just melee the air and it kill him

[karmic chasm]

I just noticed the pc setup makes the UI look much more like Destiny

[cobalt fjord]

oh yeah much better and clean

[karmic chasm]

I play on IPhone

Rip. At least it’s not a 13 anymore

Tbh it ran fine on there tho

[twilit thistle]

Redundant on estela.

@signal spade we r cooked

[signal spade]

yea games shafting me

[cobalt fjord]

yeah there was a one of my team always play in his phone while contest raid and he is really good player but sometimes he said wait a mins im gonna put my phone in the freezer

[visual rain]

@fresh moat i accidentally left my fault

[fresh moat]

Jump off right there

[visual rain]

i jumped in the pit and it didnt kill me 😭

[fresh moat]

Sorry we died 😵‍💫

[visual rain]

bro the boss killed me like 3 seconds before his dash animation

but yeah umeko sucks for this i gotta level up efri

[fresh moat]

It’s all good

[bitter estuary]

i only got 1 5* so far but it was crappy mod

[twilit thistle]

@balmy raft took all the ikora 5 stars 😔

[surreal berry]

Doesn't The Save Reset when you pick a new mode?...
So... Are you doing this in 1 sitting?.... I would have given up at Stage 50 or 75

[balmy raft]

I’ve gotten 2 focused 5 stars total

I been getting bs

[cobalt fjord]

u can get out and load back any time in the day and u can change artifact and it wouldnt reset

and yeah i have nothing to do so yeah its 300 back to back while watching youtube in the second screen

[thorny frost]

I feel like this would be one of the biggest hold up for the world first race on phone XD needing to charge while gaming just over heats my phone. ( I personally don’t have the skill for world first race).

[cobalt fjord]

true the heat hold the phone player back

[bitter estuary]

balls

[surreal berry]

what about public events To collect For the Unlocking of the Passive talents?...

[visual rain]

i dont even play ning but holy ning godroll

now just give me that for umeko please

[cobalt fjord]

u mean this ?

[thorny frost]

Yea I 100% believe that there are players with insane skill with touch screen and/or controller. But I don’t know if even the best phones could handle 6 hours of game play+ needing to charge without overheating.

[cobalt fjord]

i just puting anything tbh

[surreal berry]

yes

[surreal berry]

... Purchase a Stat reroll item?... and hope for Stat for umeko?...

[visual rain]

why would i use valiant veil on umeko

[robust sequoia]

Make it for Umeko…

No reroll dice, just a couple veils with Void stat (and no Arc stat on them).

[visual rain]

no im not gonna ruin a perfect artifact like that

also i have bellicose selected it just gave me this randomly

[surreal berry]

well... I misread how you Definitioned your wording

[robust sequoia]

Oh, you’re not using Veil on her. My bad. I’d ruin it, if I didn’t play Ning and needed for someone else.

[visual rain]

yeah unfortunately even tho its 30% damage bonus it is really bad for her

it scales horribly :(

[balmy raft]

3/4

[visual rain]

super over signature?

[bitter estuary]

balls

[balmy raft]

Ye since not everything is about speed now

[visual rain]

i only have T1 so i think my super does like 4 damage

[balmy raft]

Oh fair

[robust sequoia]

Are element stats still BIS on artifacts with so many new weapon elements and builds for Expanse? (like do I still want Arc on HH? Or signature or super?)

[visual rain]

at least every time ive used ning super it feels horrible

[visual rain]

if ur playing a char where their abilities actually do damage then yeah

and tbh for offensive artifacts there arent really that many options to begin with

[cobalt fjord]

i think thats enough

i think i just get like 15-20 season ranks

[visual rain]

why are so many efrideets on leaderboards using the ning summon artifact in 3rd slot

[twilit thistle]

😭 is too hard

[thorny frost]

Spear counts as summon if it doesn’t kill the enemy when it hits from what I have read on here.

[visual rain]

bro what

[cobalt fjord]

yup

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar i need speed running tech for getting photos like this, they keep wrecking my run

[visual rain]

thats dumb

but i guess it means i can share it with ning so

[thorny frost]

I think it is due to it “sticking” to the opponent. Or someone programmed it super weird

[twilit thistle]

@visual rain have u done this one yet

[visual rain]

i guess its considered an entity and not just a projectile

[visual rain]

no why

is the one in ur other screenshot labyrinth?

[indigo solar]

Just gotta sac a run for photos

There isn't a time requirement on campaigns anymore tho I thought

[visual rain]

can i ask why it took u 23 minutes

what power are u

[visual rain]

done

that one is a lot more annoying

[signal phoenix]

When does the game become free 2 play 😅

[twilit thistle]

😔 skill issue?

[visual rain]

bro 😭

[twilit thistle]

Not bc i have to photo every encounter

[visual rain]

maybe lassi just sucks

oh ok that makes a lot more sense

[twilit thistle]

😔

[visual rain]

now its time for arc impact

im gonna do this without using an arc weapon and see how much im gonna hate myself

ok nope

[thorny frost]

@twilit thistle so the huge heal I was seeing in your expanse runs I think is a bug in the new expanse. I think Estela T1 ability 40% is triggering from misfortune like normal hits, where every where else it is only healing like 300 over shield when it connects.

[slim fossil]

when are they going to fix error 901

[sullen depot]

what error is that?

[slim fossil]

amd grafics card crash

[twilit thistle]

💀 i was speedrunning it so i could clown on u with borealis. Did u quit?

[visual rain]

i mean i could do it with cloudstrike but i dont feel like it rn

my borealis is buns

[twilit thistle]

And miss out on the interaction borealis has against the shinkas?

[modern seal]

Have people done testing on thunderlord to see how good it is, and if it's worth maxing for estella?

[oblique geyser]

fing finally

[thorny frost]

It has a bug where the RoF is restarted every time you case a skill, so as of right now it is looking pretty mediocre. Even if/when that gets changed I doubt it will surpass Heir.

[surreal berry]

Isn't you just doing chaos?...
You doing a Time Trial?

[oblique geyser]

Expanse 80 piercing

[surreal berry]

I know it's called endless now...
What is the darn max stages?

[karmic chasm]

Hopefully no maximum

But if I had to guess it would cap at 99

Like bulwark did

[surreal berry]

[karmic chasm]

Bro what even in the fever dream was bulwark

[oblique geyser]

I think you are confusing expanse with chaos runs 👍

[twilit thistle]

I cracked a shinka with it from across the room, and lost about 30s and too much heavy trying to recreate it. I had 1 izi shot the entire boss fight. Still. Outdo this without borealis

[surreal berry]

WHOM are the Type of players attempting Higher than 40 stages?...

[indigo solar]

You need 50 for the title

And that's just the base title, idk about gilding requirements

[twilit thistle]

Across. The. Room. Impact shinka. I think it had something to do with the timing of the shot. And hawkeye

[visual rain]

how do you shoot an impact shinka if you arent in the bubble

[indigo solar]

Probably shot it before the bubble loaded

[twilit thistle]

exactly what I said.

[surreal berry]

Can someone Who is not a Money Bags Player please tell me... You have attempted more than 30 Stages...

[indigo solar]

I'm going to when I get home tonight

Need it for breakthrough for next week

[signal phoenix]

I’m F2P

[twilit thistle]

Adept lassi might have been a better pick for the shinkas tho ngl that syncopation buff is crazy

[visual rain]

i dont think it really matters tbh

[thorny frost]

120 at least as that is when rewards look to stop

[visual rain]

adept 3 is still really easy

[charred sail]

Im confused, at 89k im getting obliterated in the vex mission

Im not sure why should only be 500 power suppression

[visual rain]

idk i did it at 95k

[charred sail]

Maybe its higher than 87k as listed?

It feels like im doing a 99k expanse stage at 94k

[charred sail]

What is the power recommended at stage 80

[visual rain]

ive also done that mission like 50 times speedrunning it so i kinda know everything about it

im gonna see if no artifacts run is possible

[oblique geyser]

At around 102k rn but didnt see much différence with my 100k ish tries.. its pretty much 90% of précision hit with no downtime and rng with servitor shielding or not the boss

[twilit thistle]

It felt off in the lower stages as well.

[frozen tree]

I hit 35 on Efri t0 at like mid 80k power

[modern seal]

If I have to do void impact, what's the weapon setup for jaren?

[frozen tree]

I’m at like 92k now so I can probably get to 40 no problem

[sullen depot]

void shotty. Eternal retribution

[neon pebble]

What perks

[river vigil]

are you power suppressed?

[modern seal]

currently 96k trying to do expanse 41-50 but it's really rough, might just wait till next week

[sullen depot]

i did that one with hairkora

[thorny frost]

There is a T1 Efri on level 50 exapanse… we also have Nings/Jolders in top 50 in most of the leaderboards. It is definitely possible for long term players to be pushing farther F2P or minimal spenders.

[neon pebble]

Grind hard, play harder

[modern seal]

were the impact shinkas annoying?

[sullen depot]

not as much. i just did some ability spam while attempting shield break with RL to keep up my overshield

but yeah typically u wanna save like at least 4/5 RL and then ur ult for the shinkas so u kill em instantly

if u cant kill them ater breaking in one go then its a reset

[modern seal]

Ya I might try that next week, I haven't grinding out level 90 artifacts for ikora yet so it's going to be a while lol

[sullen depot]

i wanna try rapid fire side with ikora and WCC for fun but i gotta finish building up WCC first

[bitter estuary]

void lc adept 3 is so hard but ig jaren makes it bareable (ig it'd be miles better with t6 hh though)

[obtuse chasm]

Did you know if you cover your hand in spf 50 (sun screen) and stick it in the oven you won’t burn yourself?

[twilit thistle]

@indigo solar I cant even solve 2+2=X 😭

[thorny frost]

I don’t think it is suppose to act like that tho, or else it doesn’t else where. This is why I didn’t think of it myself till it happened with me with a different artifact set when I was paying attention.

[indigo solar]

I tried to tell you @twilit thistle

Also why does discord not let me add captions to a forwarded message even if I'm immune to slowmode

[thorny frost]

It is just weird to only work in expanse that I have found.

[indigo solar]

Are you sure? It should work everywhere. I don't have t1 to test tho

[twilit thistle]

And i said 2+2=7, this is clearly not just about healing tho slot 1 should be keeping the overshield up more consistently.

[indigo solar]

You don't even need to apply conversion to test, just see if she gets the green effect around the health bar when shooting a debuffed target

[thorny frost]

I tested open world and practice range (thinking it might be a bug with it not increasing as much) and the heal is substantially lower. I only got 300 heal when hitting an enemy (as a note weapon fire healing does not trigger conversion).

[indigo solar]

How so? Every time you shoot an enemy it adds overshield and refreshes the timer. That's way more consistent than minor healing when near a debuffed target

[neon pebble]

Iron bar weekend yet?

[neon pebble]

Damage is capped by enemies max hp, lower dmg = lower heals

[thorny frost]

Practice range misfortune skill deals 100k damage

[indigo solar]

This was fixed between alpha and beta

[neon pebble]

Misfortune itself shouldnt heal

[indigo solar]

Misfortune doesn't heal but the blink attacks from the summons when you hit a target with misfortune do

Also if you hit an enemy that already has misfortune with another misfortune it should as well

[neon pebble]

You are recovering a portion of initial (base) dmg after estella or summons attack. Seems like its 40% of estellas, and 1200% of summons dmg

[indigo solar]

Yes

[twilit thistle]

so does heir. Its a glass dagger, it should be impossible to go without an overshield

[thorny frost]

Initial hit in practice range, and spreading it will provide overshield.

But it is such a small amount that it seems like they nerfed it (probably on purpose) to not let it become to strong.

[neon pebble]

Do it for gwynn orbs now, feels like I should be swimming in heals on those also

[twilit thistle]

Have u tested if that artifact is taking range into consideration? (how far away the enemies with the debuff are)

[thorny frost]

It didn’t seem to matter in expanse, but I think I might of thought of what is happening, going to test it in regular chaos quick.

[indigo solar]

Now add summons and show how much the blink attacks heal

[thorny frost]

So you remember your explosive summon build you were just talking about for Estela chaos farm? Well the damage from the spread attack from the electrocution perk seems to be counting as Estela damage. So when misfortune hits, it causes the spread damage to trigger and heal you. I never pick that upgrade typically with Estela so I never noticed till I happen to pick it up earlier in expanse. So when I just went to test it earlier it triggered the heal and I didn’t realize it till I just double checked in level 50 expanse.

[thorny frost]

I will check but that should heal the summon not Estela.

[thorny frost]

O I thought you meant due to misfortune. Yes that part heals her.

[thorny frost]

Blink attacks heals the same as a regular attack

[thorny frost]

Just need 30 more shards XD

Not even sure if the heal you are referring to is a talent or not tho. My knowledge of Gwynn is limited

[twilit thistle]

I swear it had an impact in the expanse, when i tested these. It wasnt the only healing artifact I tested that day.

[thorny frost]

Well we know the electrocution IX gift can be pretty nice on Estela now. Instant heals on misfortune, and AOE damage from summons attack.

[humble jacinth]

Efrideet best titan 👊

[river vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[humble jacinth]

I'm aware she's not a titan

[river vigil]

tbf with spike shell I swear she's a titan

[humble jacinth]

Yep, that's what I was joking about lol

[river vigil]

efrideet might be the biggest larper in the destiny universe

[visual rain]

well good thing they made her a hunter because any jump in this game that isnt hunter jump sucks

actually now that i think about it every good character is a hunter

except ikora

[river vigil]

what can i say, hunters are just better

[twilit thistle]

I wonder what solar would have done. I tried getting both going 🤷🏼‍♀️ I think it had another aoe

[manic mirage]

🕺🏻

[signal spade]

what are bis umeko artifacts

3/4 rather

[frozen tree]

Warlock jump is why I probably did not enjoy ikora any when I pulled her

[visual rain]

inverted fury and bellicose

[signal spade]

is vuln substat worth

[frozen tree]

Warlock jump is why I never played warlock in d2 despite really liking a lot of their builds

[thorny frost]

Solar doesn’t really have an explosion from skill cast, so she shouldn’t ever trigger the epic heal. But I do like fire fire the solar debuff

[visual rain]

for solo probably not but im not really sure

[twilit thistle]

No

[visual rain]

explain

[twilit thistle]

#1391469379853619282 there is the Umeko one in there.

[visual rain]

brother who is using hawkeye outside of very niche scenarios

[twilit thistle]

Bellicose is a conditional, I was very impressed with Hawkeye over it. And that comes from a past hater of Hawkeye, bc I thought it wouldn’t work well

[visual rain]

hawkeye is boss dmg for like njorun or issakis

[visual rain]

bellicose isnt conditional you ALWAYS have abilities up

[twilit thistle]

🤷🏼‍♀️ @indigo solar

[visual rain]

its your guide you explain yourself lol

[neon pebble]

Don posted it, ask him

[twilit thistle]

🤷🏼‍♀️

I’d go veil for the extra couple of seconds and applying to all dmg nowadays, but I also have Hawkeye. If it’s a problem u can just switch, there isn’t pinnacle anymore holding that stuff back so no worry about getting locked into one build these days.

Still Hawkeye is going to be the best to build first, most of the time it’s active anyways

[visual rain]

no

hawkeye is also conditional but its a lot harder to tell where you have the most damage at

[twilit thistle]

(Veil being for other characters)

[visual rain]

the damage buff from hawkeye at its greatest is not worth the 0 damage buff from being within 20m

bellicose is always up

[twilit thistle]

20m is a very short distance

[visual rain]

yes but 20m is where it STARTS

[neon pebble]

Why not inverted fury

Its buffed now

[visual rain]

thats 3rd slot not 4th

[neon pebble]

Who even uses a 4th slot thats not a move ability?

[visual rain]

veil isnt good on umeko

[twilit thistle]

Most of the expanse encounters are best played at a distance on Umeko. I can take shots so far back the ads can’t even target me

[visual rain]

we use bellicose because weapon damage is better than damage bonus

[neon pebble]

Last 10 seconds now, she has 2 dashes

Buffed to 30%

[barren phoenix]

Which combo for efrideet is better?
Jezi + cloud
Or
Till death + Zico

[neon pebble]

Tlw + sidereal

[twilit thistle]

(Ikora can also use it now, so can and jaren. That’s why i recommend veil.)

Most ppl are looking for the most dmg 🤷🏼‍♀️ if Taniks-san, the GachaGirl⬛🟥[IN] wants to jump in and shoot it down, that’s different.

I cannot go against my mentor.

[visual rain]

for most dmg on umeko you're going bellicose or hawkeye if the situation makes sense

but i would build a bellicose first because its more generally applicable to all situations

any char could use it really, even tho it isnt the best

[gray crypt]

Alright chat it's me I'm back

[limber pine]

Yayyyyy

[gray crypt]

I'm totally definitely the #1 Efri player OAT

[neon pebble]

Js, ascend will make up the 5% dmg diff between artifacts

[visual rain]

also, im not sure if the 2nd dash actually counts as its own sig ability

[limber pine]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that-gif-22429959

[visual rain]

her T1 doesnt give 2 charges of dash, they are the same dash. you can only use the 2nd while the first one's timer is active

[neon pebble]

Doesnt test it but says its not good on her 😭

[visual rain]

the damage from veil is worse

[gray crypt]

Definitely totally

[visual rain]

i said i dont know if the 2nd dash counts to refresh it

[gray crypt]

Idk what to grind in DR today

[neon pebble]

5% is made up for by ascend and All dmg > wpn dmg

[gray crypt]

Nvm, I need to do Season quest and get Efri to 90k

[neon pebble]

Wpn masteries are real

[gray crypt]

Which I'm not entirely sure is possible if I don't E6 her

[visual rain]

are you talking about someone not named umeko?

[sullen depot]

yeah i was just gonna say u cant ascend umeko

[visual rain]

and also weapon damage is better than damage bonus on umeko specifically because her abilities do nothing

[barren phoenix]

What’s your weapon combo for her

[barren phoenix]

Is that really the next combo for her? I thought sidereal sucks for her

[gray crypt]

You know I'm not serious right

[barren phoenix]

Bc she doesn get to the last round on her sniper often due to her dash

[visual rain]

ive seen ted, crimson, even cloudstrike, but never last word 😭

[barren phoenix]

Yeah side real is basically useless on her unless she doesn’t dash

[barren phoenix]

I love umeko, I run TL and izzy

[visual rain]

the 🐐 combo

[gray crypt]

man who's the actual efri main here

[barren phoenix]

What arti are you running for her

I’m running
Unrel ground
Unrel evo
Calm tok
Belli plas

[visual rain]

calming token is buns

[river vigil]

it finally dropped now I need to fix the attributes

[visual rain]

just swap that out with inverted fury and ur good

[barren phoenix]

Noooo it’s amazing such consistent damage

[visual rain]

nah

although i guess if youre always unshielded its fine

but like just use ur dash

[barren phoenix]

You are crazyyy

Token is SOOOO much better stat wise

[visual rain]

on paper yes

[river vigil]

I feel like fury is active more than token

[visual rain]

i havent tested it in a while but its something to do with precision not scaling as well as weapon damage

it sucks with izi

[barren phoenix]

Token procs with unrel ground

2 for one special

All you have to do is stand there and you double damage and get DR

[visual rain]

you should try a mythic inverted fury cus i dont feel like testing it

but calming im almost certain scales worse

[barren phoenix]

Izzy with precision is insane!!! Izzy is only good if you hit your shots

[visual rain]

no, the precision bonus doesnt scale as well

[gray crypt]

Is voodoo doll/Til The End a worthwhile roll

[haughty temple]

can anyone explain how the eyes of malice works or is it actually just trial and error?

[visual rain]

the hell is an eye of malice

[barren phoenix]

I think when I tested it… precision with out boost does more damage than normal damage with invert boost

[haughty temple]

its one of the exploration tasks you can do

[barren phoenix]

Also one more time bc I get mixed answers, I don’t wanna waste mats

What’s the best weapon combo for efrideet?

[river vigil]

it depends

in most cases its probably crimson/eternal death+ist 3

[prisma pond]

Jezibaba + cloudstrike
Or bp hc + solar 3 shot mythic

[sullen depot]

crimson is the for fun build / if you wanna use her in rapid fire expanse

[sullen depot]

but yeah its this one dps wise

[visual rain]

no ted for dps? what?

[sullen depot]

bp hc is ted

[prisma pond]

I'm not good with names xD

[visual rain]

ok which one are u saying cus the message u responded to has 2 things

[prisma pond]

Can barely remember my own

[sullen depot]

i havent tested to know which of those two have a bigger dps output. that you will need to ask an actual efri main. i just know if u wanna take her int rapid fire expanse like most pple are doing, u need crimson

[twilit thistle]

👀 it’s additive

[neon pebble]

Weapon mastery is a 40% dmg bonus. Why not boost it also?

[grand panther]

What’s the best way to moast efficiently whale yourself to a t6 asking for a friend…

[sullen depot]

https://tenor.com/view/ocean-park-roy-rooster-chicken-anime-gif-11707529642898019289

[river vigil]

swipe until you get the t6 is what I do

[grand panther]

Buying bundles? Or using silver directly for rolls

[visual rain]

what are you even talking about

[river vigil]

you can buy the bundles since they are one time only but most of the character pulls will be directly silver purchases if you t6 every non standard banner character like I did

[grand panther]

That’s alot what’s that on avarage 100+?

100$**

[neon pebble]

Weapon mastery does an extra instance of dmg on each weapon hit. Wouldnt you like to boost that dmg also?

[grand panther]

Steph lock in I need you rn

[river vigil]

its hard to average that out since its a gacha

[grand panther]

Fair

[visual rain]

its called weapon mastery... its triggered on weapon damage... and thus it should also be weapon damage?

[river vigil]

if you go to pure pity for all 7 character pulls you'd need a little over $1000 usd

I usually just buy 45000 silver for a banner and then get more if I'm unlucky